Do hsts mtfs get aroused to gay porn?

>>8653528
>women
>watching porn

>>8653528
gay porn is made for cis men in the same way that lesbian porn is, duh?

>>8653539
>>8653547
I'm asking because someone accused me of being agp for not liking it.

It's okay. I think guys are cute and watching them have passionate sex with kissing and cuddling first can do it for me, but not if it's just typical porn sex.

>>8653528
>>8653539
>hsts
>on /tttt/

>>8653553
Separating trans girls by sexuality is not helpful diagnostically.
You are a trans girl into men. That doesn't imply anything else about you.
>I'm asking because someone accused me of being agp for not liking it.
Also, they say this because Blanchard's hypothesis was, trans women who liked men were extremely effeminate gay guys who could fit in socially better as women. This is not a proven or provable hypothesis.
The way he tried to 'prove' that this was true was by holding the medical authority to let trans women transition only if they said what he wanted to hear. Anyway, look it up yourself on wikipedia before you just blindly let people label you things.
Imo0ooooooOO000oo

>>8653528
yes i like gay porn, although i dont watch porn much

idc if its hsts/agp or whatever

>>8653600
>trans women who liked men were extremely effeminate gay guys who could fit in socially better as women

also autistic gender fixation, but still true

Blanchard being right triggers trannies so hard. Wonder why? Oh right, they are pathologically dishonest narcissists trying to seduce straight men.

>>8653681
No one is triggered by Blanchard, they're just tired of hearing about his bullshit

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>>8653681
What's wrong with autistic gender fixation?

Most of the transitioners here have the straight man's "idgaf xDD" approach gender which is scary to witness and understand.

>>8653722
*and hard to understand

>>8653722
Nothing. Just most don't admit they are fem gays with autism.

>>8653722
>What's wrong with autistic gender fixation?
Nothing's wrong with it per se, it's just very male. That's why FTMs are so often on the spectrum and MTFs never are.

>>8653820
Bullshit MTF are way more likely than cis gay males to be on the spectrum.

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>>8653528
I don't really like porn in general desu ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

>>8653837
[citation needed]

>>8653855
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kyle-simon/is-there-a-link-between-autism-and-gender-dysphoria_b_3896317.html

FTM may have MORE autism but MTF still have 8% autism minimum, way more than gay genpop.

>>8653872
We're not comparing to gays, we're comparing to het guys.

>>8653924
autism hierarchy:

ftm>mtf>cis gay>cis les

>>8653934
cis les>straight men> straight women

>>8653591
we are here

>>8655444
Prove it.

inb4 liking guys = HSTS

>>8655449
what am i supposed to do for you

>>8655471
Tell me how you only once fapped to wearing panties or imagine the faces of the guys you fantasize about, so you MUST be HSTS.

>>8655486
i don't watch porn so...

when i was a child i figured that i was just attracted to boys the same way that the girls in my class were. and it didn't take me long to realize that it was impossible for me to contextualize in any sort of expectation of boys, wether through witnessing any type of other boys, any media, old males, etc. i think a sort of tipping point came when i found out what gay men were in middle school and they were just an "other" to me. like, the idea of men have sex with men, as a contextualized man, was an "other" to me in the way that wanting to be any type of boy was or the dynamic of being attracted to women is ... idk if that makes sense.

>>8655524
Not enough to be conclusive but could be meta-attraction.

>>8655534
i already took kay brown's test though

>>8655540
What are your feelings towards women?

How do you feel about the thought of being sexual with a woman? What's hot about a man?

>>8655556
i don't *like* anything about women. i think that they can look good in a role model type of way, or in an inspirative relatable way. i've never had any sort of sexual fantasy toward a woman, i think because my attraction boys was never really challenged or shoehorned into any box, honestly because it couldn't, that would force me to question it.

i think that women can look inspirative in like, a role model way. i guess? i've never been sexually or romantically attracted to a girl.

what do you mean by "what's hot". everything about boy bodies is more interesting and endearing and exciting... from their stupid-looking unregulated facial expressions, to their wide, expansive flat bodies, to the way that their bodies lazily move about, to their snarky and mean voices idk.. literally just the way that boys "emote" is cute and funny to me.

or did you want me to describe something sexual. or like personality types... i'm not sure how you want me to describe casually finding a gender attractive?

>>8655609
Hm, I'm believing you are likely HSTS. What are your sexual fantasies? What do you imagine the ideal relationship with a guy being like?

>>8655624
well when i was little i just expected to have the same dynamic that girls had with boys. that's the only way that male attraction made sense to me; when i found out about gay men and homosexuality, i assumed that their could just be different types of being attracted to males that could get "mixed up", and that i had "female attraction to males". which meant, that boys just existed to be teased from a distance,


obviously as a child it was different, and my "ideal" relationship would have been "being allowed to discover what boys were like", in some lurid way. these were always straight boys. as i was forced to masculinized starting in high school, i began to have extreme anxiety over the idea of what would happen to who would be attracted to me, that people -- especially gay men-- would start to be attracted to me for being, physically, "a man" (even though i was obviously not masc) -- even though cishet boys weren't actually ever attracted to me throughout elementary and middle school, that was involved in the birth of a thousand gender-related anxieties that plagued me throughout high school.

it might be easier if you ask more specific questions. otherwise it's a long-story-short.

i don't really want to post any sexual fantasies here. although you can ask non-sexually charged questions about it and maybe i'll respond.

>>8655781
I think you're HSTS. Sexual fantasies could help confirm or deny, but no other questions and I'm reasonably sure without them anyway.

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>>8655808
see? i told you...

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>>8653528
>I need an answer of certified hsts.
Well I am not trans, but I do know 2 trans girls that I have met in the past year that I would consider "HST", and yes both confirmed to me that they watch gay porn. Both watch daddy/twink type stuff, and like watching a more feminine smaller male be topped by a bigger stronger male. Both have only been in relationships with males and both have only been submissive bottoms in those relationships, both have a strong aversion to topping.

I cant really answer the other stuff than to say what trans girls have told me they like about me which is my body, how I smell, how I act, and how I make them feel feminine those are the types of compliments I generally get.

>>8655979
>how can I make this about myself
kys nigger

>>8655992
Why do I get under your skin so much anon? Why do you get so angry and butt frustrated when you see me?
Do you dream about me anon?

>>8653934
>implying cis lesbians aren't the biggest autists

I dont think the whole hsts/agp thing is legit, or at least not complete, but people seem to put me in as hsts and I am straight (well like 99% straight) so whatever. I dont watch much porn (prefer to read erotica if I want to masturbate or something) but yea I like gay porn. also straight porn with hot guys that dont exclusively focus on the girl. I probably like the latter more but its harder to come by.

>>8653528
>certified hst
Where do I get this certification, I need this so much in my life.

>how would you describe your your attraction to guys?
When they are (blatantly) attracted to me I feel a strong hotness inside. Watching dudes fucking dudes is just meh. So probably it's less visual and more what they do (for me).

I find lesbians cuddling to be cute though.

>>8653528
I don't know if I'm hsts or agp or aap or whatever, but I like the imagery of /cm/ and occasionally well drawn men from /y/, I love it, especially if it's got romance going on

>>8656360
>I need this so much in my life.
Why?

>When they are (blatantly) attracted to me I feel a strong hotness inside.
Meta-attraction.

>>8656394
>Meta-attraction.
Can you explain that in Simplified English?

>>8656406
You aren't attracted to men directly like a straight woman or gay man is. Instead you are attracted to how they enhance your own feelings of femininity and sense of yourself as a woman. Because you're the true target of your orientation.

>>8656409
Are you baiting? I mean, cis women obviously love being made to feel that they are 'a special woman'. How are trans women different in that regard?

>>8656421
>How are trans women different in that regard?
There sexuality in many cases isn't as androphilic as cis women's even when they like guys too in their own way.

>>8656440
If what you meant is that I must be attracted to what guys have before I can be declared HST, then yes, they are attractive. I don't really like the lack of curves of the male body, but I do like men's deep voice and how strong and firm they are. The thing is, I mostly only notice those traits after they are starting to flirt with me, not before. I'm not a 'perpetually thirsty woman', so to speak.

>>8656463
>I do like men's deep voice and how strong and firm they are
This is totally meta-attraction.

HSTS actually like male bodies. The only physical thing you said about male bodies was that you dislike them and would prefer more femininity. Because you're not a primary androphile like cis girls!

>>8656470
Well, I can't change who or what I'm attracted to. So if you want to judge me as an AGP, that's not a judgement that I'll challenge.

Also, your judgement states that cis girls are all androphile and don't like the icky female body... oh my.

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>>8656491
thing I want to know is: who cares? Im a natal male that has dysphora, takes hormones and tries pretty hard to pass as a woman because it makes me feel good. I'm attracted to men and have relationships with men because it makes me feel good.

Its not the best life but its ok. Is there any good reason why I should care about whether I'm "HSTS" or "AGP", or if I'm attracted to men or just meta-attracted, etc.? What's the point? What's in it for me?

>>8656491
>So if you want to judge me as an AGP
It's not a moral judgement, just a descriptive one.

To be fair I said straight women >>8656409 and then you started talking about cis women in general >>8656421.

>>8656534
>if I'm attracted to men or just meta-attracted,
Meta-attraction isn't 'just'. It's simply a different kind of attraction. Primary attraction and meta-attraction are both attraction.

>who cares?
>What's the point? What's in it for me?
Finding out how your sexuality works! It could improve your relationships too because it is a clue to directions for exploring your sexuality. An AGP is more likely to enjoy dressing up to play different scenarios with her boyfriend for example. Knowing you're AGP means you can listen to other AGPs, see what they enjoy, and see if any of it appeals to you too. HSTS talk is less likely to apply to you.

>>8656550
>Finding out how your sexuality works! It could improve your relationships too because it is a clue to directions for exploring your sexuality. An AGP is more likely to enjoy dressing up to play different scenarios with her boyfriend for example. Knowing you're AGP means you can listen to other AGPs, see what they enjoy, and see if any of it appeals to you too. HSTS talk is less likely to apply to you.

Eh, I guess? Still, it seems like it's adding this unnecessary layer of taxonomy that isn't useful enough to really help in its own right but prescriptive enough to be so controversial. Seems simpler to just feel out sexuality without the labels.

Well either way, I'm not that other anon, I'm quite directly attracted to men's bodies, so I guess I'm not 'meta-attracted' (tho I'd say I'm also meta-attracted?) to men. But it's just I feel way too many people get caught up in this agp/hsts stuff to their own detriment.

>>8656559
>Seems simpler to just feel out sexuality without the labels.
Maybe it is for some but for plenty it isn't. It can be really helpful.

>I'm quite directly attracted to men's bodies, so I guess I'm not 'meta-attracted' (tho I'd say I'm also meta-attracted?) to men.
I think meta-attraction can cause primary attraction or something very like it to a limited (and maybe unlimited) extent. This is somewhere the theory can help people, because if you understand they are separate then it could make it easier to come to terms with them, to stop wondering 'am I gay/straight?' and to potentially work on increasing your primary attraction (or similar thing) so you can enjoy your meta-attraction more.

>But it's just I feel way too many people get caught up in this agp/hsts stuff to their own detriment.
I wish people understood it better so it could help them instead of confusing or upsetting them. Feeling meta-attraction doesn't make you less genuine or anything bad like that, it's just something to understand and love about yourself!

>>8656581
Agree to disagree I suppose. I do agree with that other anon though, that 'meta-attraction' is *very* common amongst cis women as well, even if its not the predominant mode of attraction. I mean we all love firefighter calendars, but personally at least I hear far more often cis women saying things like "I want a man to make me feel sexy" or "make me feel like a woman" and so on. I'm not sure how clean this divide is.

>>8656588
>Agree to disagree I suppose.
It's really helped me at least and I wish it could help more people instead of them hating it.

>I do agree with that other anon though, that 'meta-attraction' is *very* common amongst cis women as well, even if its not the predominant mode of attraction.
Maybe it's a question of which came first and grew into the other.

I don't really like firefighter calendars.

>>8656596
>It's really helped me at least and I wish it could help more people instead of them hating it

Glad to hear that, really. Any way people become comfortable with themselves is good. (so long as it doesnt hurt others of course)

also what the heck firefighters are hot

>>8656600
>Glad to hear that, really.
Thanks anon. I teared up writing the last sentence of >>8656581

>also what the heck firefighters are hot
That's direct attraction speaking. My direct attraction is to girls.

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>>8655979
Actual HSTS are only interested in malexmale porn if it's made out of the female gaze (i.e. yaoi) not something that's made to appease gay male fantasies or something that you're supposed to self-insert in.

>>8656780
*and something

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>>8656780
>Actual HSTS are only interested in malexmale porn if it's made out of the female gaze
No one gives a fuck about your crackpot theories. Remember that I do field research and you are a mentally ill virgin that talks to other mentally ill virgins on the internet. I speak from experience, you read books nigga.

And btw both HST I am referring to specifically talked about self inserting as the bottom when they watch gay porn. I do find it kind of a turn off, and I tried to get the one I am closest to to at least start watching trans porn, but I could tell she was somewhat resistant to the idea. I think porn is a personal habit that people develop over years of exposure and regardless of what type of porn or their sexuality its hard for them to "break" from that type of porn simply due to comfort. I dont watch a lot of porn but I 100% prefer trans girl getting topped by masculine male porn. Even if I never slept with another trans girl ever again I cant see myself masturbating to anything else tbqh.

>>8656534
>Is there any good reason why I should care about whether I'm "HSTS" or "AGP"
Its definitely a good thing to know, the more you know about yourself the better you will understand how you fit into the world. HST/AGP are only about as useful as the terms black/white are for classifying humans, which is not very in a scientific sense but it can be useful for every day conversation

>What's in it for me?
No offense but that is a very AGP thing to say. AGPs tend to be very self centered and narcissistic, the focus of your sexuality is really about the woman you see yourself to be. You also seem to incorrectly believe this is the way most cis women think.... from my experience it definitely is not. The subconscious focus of most cis women is to get and keep a man, often to their own severe detriment, it is NOT to build up their own femininity.
(cont)

>>8656916
(cont)
I also want to point out that I dont think there is anything "wrong" with AGP however I do personally prefer to be with an HST or someone who is only mildly AGP. I am not compatible with a severely AGP, nor do I think most 'straight' men are. In my experience HST are the most satisfying sexual partners between the two. AGPs seem to pair up better with women or better yet other AGP males I think is probably the most perfect fit.

The problem that I face as a trans attracted cis male is that AGP far outnumber HST and trans girls are already an extremely rare minority. So I do encounter AGPs regularly, and its fine if their AGP isnt severe. I do think an AGP can make a good lover for a 'straight' male at least in the short term. I think bottoming and sexual submission to a man comes much more naturally and easily to an HST, but AGPs can be trained into fairly decent bottoms especially if they are younger. I also think the small things like gently caressing your man, or making sure you look at him when he speaks to you, staying slightly behind him when you walk, not racing him to doors, etc I have noticed HSTs pick up a bit better on than AGPs; which in my experience tend to act more like 'equals' or male friends doing a female kabuki dance as opposed to HSTs which behave more like a cis girl would behave towards you.

I hope people dont get too triggered over my commentary. I am just trying to be helpful and provide input from my experience as a masculine cis male tranny chaser. I am not an academic nor do I make any scientific claims. Just relaying my personal observations and anecdote which may or may not be helpful, and may rustle some transbian jimmies.

>>8656916
>I could tell she was somewhat resistant to the idea.

I'm not really resistant to it, it's just, like u said, hard to reformulate one's sexual tastes.

>>8656916
>the focus of your sexuality is really about the woman you see yourself to be.
All those self-help books about journey to self-discovery in one's love life (Eat Pray Love, etc... ugh) must have been marketed solely to AGP, amirite?

>>8656919
In what way do AGPs pair worse/less sexually satisfyingly with straight men and better with women or other AGPs?

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>>8656916
uh... I wasn't talking about HSTS as an observer, I was talking about myself.

Also, why are you scared of saying transsexual?

>>8657020
Trent said you're AGP though?

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>>8657027
Trent says that solely based on the fact that I said that I was "Kinsey scale 1" to brush someone off when they asked me for the reason as to why I was "stalking" you-know-who. Trent also thinks that I want my transition to "make me an early transitioner" and that that's why I'm transitioning, and he also theorized that I wanted to be an FTM in the past among other things.

Meanwhile he makes tons of excuses for certain people extremely egregious offenses.

Anyways, I wrote about some of my history above starting here >>8655449 (follow that comment chain).

>>8657049
>solely based on the fact that I said that I was "Kinsey scale 1" to brush someone off
He must have had other reasons too.

>that I want my transition to "make me an early transitioner" and that that's why I'm transitioning,
Why does he think that?

>and he also theorized that I wanted to be an FTM in the past among other things.
What does that even mean, wanting to be the opposite kind of trans?

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>>8657091
These are his reasons, they all have to with "chasing". And the third one is one that I didn't even say.

The FTM thing was just pulled from constant lying that I did back then, when I said that I wanted to be an FTM.

Idk, back then I lied a lot

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>>8656947
>I'm not really resistant to it, it's just, like u said, hard to reformulate one's sexual tastes.
LUL I figured you might be here. Tell all these little nerds how daddy makes you feel when we are together.... I get off on that kind of stuff.... it might be 'helpful' to the thread as well :P

>>8656916
>trans girl getting topped by masculine male porn
i hate professional porn where nobody is into it and the fake screaming/moaning. so i like amateur/homemade type stuff, but almost all of the "trans porn" like this is gross sissy stuff, gross crossdresser stuff, or obvious prostitutes with fat old men (or sugar daddies)

so i watch amateur gay porn or sometimes amateur straight porn if the girl isnt being too obnoxious

>>8657164
Where does the wanting to be FTM come into it?

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>>8657680
That was way back in October of last year when I made up some sort of story about wanting to become an FTM as an andro Asian boy. Trent also considered me an FTM chaser back then.

>>8657695
Why did you make up that story?

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>>8657745
idk

Trent changes what he theorizes people on whim, like when he "mysteriously" stopped referring to Commie-chan as a vaguely-outlier AGP and began referring to her as HSTS when she banned him from speaking to her several times and tried to cut him out of her life.

>>8658028
*theorizes about people

>>8658028
What the hell? Commie is gynephilic isn't she?

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>>8658046
Yes, he refers to her as "trans-HSTS" but still refers to people like Eli Erlick as only being "outlier AGPs".

>>8657405
(1/3)

Ok :D well....

Lemme start off by saying I was literally douching in the airport bathroom before he picked me up, that's how bad I was wanting it. I wanted to be ready the second we got to the hotel. I had on my slutty gray crop top that I know he likes. We started making out and he was feeling me up in the parking garage. I like his facial hair, and the way it brushes up against my face as we kiss. We got in his car and he put his hand on my thigh while driving (which, i love when he does that) and I put my hand on his shoulder. When we got back to the hotel (really nice room, Daddy does not fuck around) he immediately told me to get naked and I got undressed as fast as i could. He pushed me on to the bed, put his weight on top of me and we made out more for a bit, before pulling his pants down. Making me kneel before his cock as he fucked my throat like a pussy until I almost threw up on the bed. Then he had me bend over on the floor with my ass in the air while pushing my face into the ground with his hand, and started dipping his cock in and out of my boipucci with only spit as lube, then making me suck it to lubricate it further, then going back behind me and repeating this process for quite a bit. Then he just made me stay like that, face in the ground ass in the air as he grabbed a towel.

I'd now earned the right to get up on the bed. He put the towel down and I got up on it at the edge of the bed in his favorite position (on back, legs pulled up to my chest), so while he's fucking me he can see the defeat in my eyes as I eventually willingly surrender myself to his cock. God, I love feeling like I'm being conquered. He makes me vocalize it, too. I tell him "I surrender, I surrender to you, Daddy!". He can also see my cock in this position, and it's rock solid despite me blasting myself with spiro, that's how much he turns me on.

sidenote: my girlcock is as long as his dick, only thicker B)

>>8658076
(2/3)

We switch positions so that this time he's on the bed, I'm face down on my stomach with my hips just slightly arched up, and he gets on top. He inserts his dick starting off almost in a doggy style position, then leans down on top of me and wraps one arm around my chest, and uses the other to clench his hand around my neck and choke me. This is by far my favorite position that we do. I love feeling a man's entire weight on top of me as his cock is pulsing inside. His cock is able to get the deepest inside me this way, and I'm completely pinned down and unable to resist. I become entirely his. His dirty slutty property. Hearing his deep voice blurt "aww yeah" above me as he's pumping in and out, groping my breasts and choking the air out of me. I get so into it that i thrust my hips upward in conjunction with him so he's as deep as possible, and doesn't have to do as much work.

We then return to missionary position. He has me pull my spread my ass so he can see how much I'm gaping, masturbates to the sight, and then pushes inside my open hole and leans over me to make out while fucking me. He looks at me from above and says "Yeah, be pussy for Daddy", and I tell him, "I love being pussy for Daddy! I'm yours. You own my pussy". My brain is in a complete haze at this point, overdosed on pleasure and in a state of pure cocklust indulgent bliss. I almost miss the moment he's announces he's getting close. He continues to fuck me, then pulls out to jerk off and see my gaping hole, goes back inside again etc. When he cums, he looks like he's losing his mind, and he grunts loudly as he frosts deep inside my little cinnamon roll hole. He pulls out and watches it leak out, asking with a chuckle if I can feel it dripping down.

>>8658080
(3/3)

He gets me a wet towel and we lie down together. I cling to him like a koala. I love his body, I could practically worship it. He's such a muscular and powerful guy, makes it pretty clear how he has the stamina to fuck the way he does. It's honestly my pleasure to get the chance to massage him, even though I'm not the best masseuse.

This was DAY 1. Not even getting to night 1. Daddy is a fucking treasure, so grateful to have him <3

>>8658059
>"trans-HSTS"
So, HSTS?

What was going on, him trying to appease Commie by pretending she'd not AGP?

>>8653528
My girlfriend is trans and she only watches gay porn. So yeah I guess

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>>8656916
>implying this >>8658076 isn't agp asf
I'm sorry to break it down to you, anon.

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>>8658100
I think that, like how I explained my issue with me and gay men here, >>8655781, it makes Trent extremely insecure to be attracted to someone who is a). AMAB and b). a self identified lesbain and c). someone who has had relationships with trender-FTMs before. So even though he likes to claim that trans people don't have a 'barrier' around dating other trans peopel, he has to pervert whatever femininity Commie-chan has into somehow being "HSTS" despite them being gynephillic, "bisexual" in the sense that they're attracted to boys sometimes while drunk, and didn't strongly identify with any gender until they developed "gender dysphoria" at thirteen.

Which is fine, I guess, but his attraction to people makes him throw others under the bus.

>>8658131
or, not insecure but "paranoid"

>>8658131
>>8658135
He's paranoid his attraction to her casts doubts on his own identity, since she likes girls and trenders? And maybe his sexuality too, if he doesn't properly see MTFs as female but wants to consider himself a straight male?

How does he throw others under the bus?

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>>8658169
I forgot to mention that he believes that she "acts like a normie cis girl" or something like that which he believes has to do with "effortless and natural femininity". lol

Anyways, he's constantly trying to find ways to interact with people "rationally" and asks people to tell him words that will help him understand social cues. And of course, now that he no longer analyzes her as an AGP like he'd been doing for five months up until now, she no longer attacks him daily and is in friendly conversation with him.

I don't really want to talk about his and my interactions, though.

>>8658196
But acting like a cis girl just means an AGP is managing stealth. That doesn't make her HSTS.

Sorry if that was prying. I had respected him as a quality poster but if his interpretations are this biased I'll need to reconsider anything I believed because he posted it.

>>8658125
>having sex with a guy is agp

>>8658237
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>>8658237
Anon, I've only had sex with guys and I don't deny being an agp. I'm sorry but your ''''hsts'''' girlfriend is undeniably an agp having read this entire story.
It has literally everything you would expect.
Being agp doesn't mean you can't be attracted to men, you can be both and it doesn't necessarily have to be a meta attraction but what I've read certainly isn't hsts, I can say as much for sure.

>>8657020
>>8657049
Not sure why people here haven't realized Trent is a more unreliable narrator than Nick Carraway. It's clear from reading him that he doesn't "get" people well.

>>8658324
He's a self-admitted autist. That's not the same as doing "AGP revisionism" style unreliability by proxy. I thought autists were supposed to have a thing about truth and disliking lies?

>>8658340
>He's a self-admitted autist.
I know.
>That's not the same as doing "AGP revisionism" style unreliability by proxy. I thought autists were supposed to have a thing about truth and disliking lies?
No, it means he has to "compute" people and has to fit them into rational/analytical theories to understand them whereas other people can do it spontaneously.
Probably why he likes blanchardianism so much too.
It's not any kind of "dishonesty", just trouble deducing things from people's behavior/words.

>>8658426
If you read the thread you'll see he's apparently been either intentionally dishonest or willfully deluding himself.

>>8658196
why do you talk about this stuff so much cara

why do you fixate on boring, sophistic analysis that wont ever fix anything and doesn't lead anywhere? i get that these people and those people are shit- no doubt if you know them theyre as bad if not worse than you- but why do you need to write paragraphs about it going way too in depth? i mean why do any of you people even get in discords and allow your toxic ideas to intermingle? get some real friends that actually care about you

why are you always on /lgbt/? i mean i only end up here because chrome decided this was the main 4chan page i was going to and im so lazy i never tried to fix it. anyways hsts and agp shit is stupid; it's a sheeple ideology, essentially a death cult. blanchard wanted trannies to die out

>>8658076
>>8658080
>>8658084
H-hot. Do you have more?

>>8658269
Sounds like you're projecting

>>8658545
Just read the story, lol.

>>8656916
>>8656919
>>8657405
Daddy wtf I did everything you asked everything even when I wanted to die from the pain I still didn't fight you. You even said you loved me and I was your future waifu. Now you act like I am not good enough for you and call me agp and let that other gross tranner put every detail of what you like doing out for everybody to see. Gross gross gross gross gross why won't you answer me on discord I have been crying for the past hour I hope ur happy

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>>8658076
>>8658080
>>8658084
Quality fanfic smut you got there mi hermano.
Rated: 9/11

>>8658781
He pumps & dumps trannies every day.
What did you expect you dumb slut?

>>8658843
Master manipulator.
Always stalking his next kill.
Fill them up.
Throw them away.
And move onto the next.
Like it's his fucking job.

>>8658870
Here are some sick beatz for these sick rhymes tbqh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH4JkN2Huck

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>>8658781
>>8658843
>>8658870
carth quit talking to yourself

>>8658988
Sorry faM xD xD xD

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>>8658997
we all know youre just erping with yourself, the only person who would genuinely hit on you is dumpster slime like cara who has never met a real life nigger and doesnt know they smell like dogshit because they culturally dont wipe their asses

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I try and legitimately participate in a thread and get drowned out by autistic screeching, drama, and bullshit.

What the fuck ever dude

>>8658100
>>8658131
'trans-hsts' is a joke, which i thought was obvious but guess was wrong about -- i keep not accounting for cara's worldview being as rigid as it is (yes, i know exactly how rich that statement is coming from me, and the fact hers is rigid-by-comparison should tell you something)
she is in fact agp, and there is no real way to deny she is agp, at least inasmuch as she's gp in general -- she's near-exclusively andromimetophilic in 'tru' sexuality, which interacts weirdly with agp
she's just a *super weird* agp, which when discussed seriously is called 'feminine outlier', but less extreme outliers complicate the topic enough that the joke term 'trans-hsts' was coined for her degree of such
'trans-hsts' does not mean hsts, it is the same thing as saying 'hsts (agp)' or 'cis girl (male)' that are also used to refer to her

>>8660125
She can't be that HSTS if she ended up on 4chan.

What about the rest of Cara's accusations?

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>>8660161
He didn't say anything that was different than what I already described. I'm verycurious to know how she "acts hsts".

>>8660318
Why are you even entertaining the "hsts" label seriously in the first place?

>>8656003
You can't be a sociopath if you have autism.

>>8660595
Why are you not?

certified agp reporting

I have a very low sex drive and it's been at least a year since I watched porn, but watching guys together always has turned me on

now I mostly just like to see guys together because it's cute when qt guys snuggle and kiss :3

more often than not porn grosses me out now

>>8667764
>certified agp
what did she mean by this?

>>8667817
idk all my first sexual fantasies (at like age 11 or 12) I had a female body and was showing myself off to men

so at 22 I started hrt and after 6 months I realized I feel female and I could never go back to trying to be male, and that starting hrt was one of the best decisions I've ever made

>>8667866
>I had a female body and was showing myself off to men
What were the fantasies?

How did you realize you couldn't go back to being male?

>>8667923
the fantasies were like me in a bikini with guys looking at me...basically just guys sexually looking at me

I love so much of what estrogen has done I never could go back
my dick is half broken and it hurts to get erect, and honestly it feels like kind of a relief
not having a sex drive is great

>>8670643
>not having a sex drive is great
why?