/tgg/ Trans Girl General

>tfw i stop making these and quickly the picture uploaded becomes slutty retarded attention whore bullshit
why can't you just post pretty scenic pictures or art?
this general does not need this shit

>>8522873
Why post scenic pictures or art? They're not even relevant to the topic.

Also: >>8522852
>tfw you will never have hips like that
>tfw you wear size 4 jeans
KILL MEEEEEEEEE

>>8522873
The first one was girl themed though... I never really liked the "artsy" stuff, but it's really whatever, it doesn't matter.

>>8522913
Pretty much a 4 too... It's not that bad though!

I just really need to get into the mentality to lose weight, fix posture and everything (I think my hips are twisted a b it). Then once I'm skinny, it'll be ok for me... Or so I believe. Then of course, I need to work on getting thicker legs and bigger butt.

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>>8522852
i mean it's aight

What do you girls use as a guide to building your butt?

>>8522981
i sit on it

>>8522981
I don't know.

I was doing squats, but my hips are like twisted or something, so only one leg got exercise.

Now I'm trying to figure out some easy exercises that exercises one leg at a time, and then try to make some light/fake tabata out of it. Though, my goal is to lose weight first, and then build muscle. I think for real muscle you need to go to a gym, or have weights at home.

>>8522980
>>8522994
Wrong thread

>>8522994
Yeah that's my routine too, it's working ok but I want it bigger and fuller.
>>8523010
I'm trying to lose weight too, exercising prevents muscle loss in that area though, so I comparison your butt will start to look thiccer, and you would be in a better place when you start building muscle too.

>>8522873
relax

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Gosh what can one do when you're lethargic?
I don't want to eat but i'm hungry as hell, just ate some nuts with 210 kcal but now i hate myself for it. I would love to sleep with some benzos but i can't cause i'm on opioids atm. It's so boring, I have no games and don't know what to do i'm going mad!

>>8522852
Stop with your hips-triggering ;_;
>>8523020
>I'm trying to lose weight too
Not the anon you replied to, BUT i'm in the same boat. I try to lose weight aswell but at the same time i'm a bit against it cause i would lose just more hips, thigh and breast material ._.
Also my shoulders are just a bit wider than my hips (like 2-3 cm) and i'm afraid this will be more pronounced...
I don't know how to feel about this. I was skinny with like 72 kg but gained 17 kg during the past 3 years HRT and i'm a bit happy with it.
Sure my stomach looks disgusting while i sit down or just ate something but at least I got some breast and hip material. Currently my body looks like a klinefelter one

>>8523183
Lose weight while exercising, then you won't lose good weight off your thighs and ass, and I don't know about you but I'd rather have petite nice breasts instead of fat breasts.
I have that worry too, if I lose too much weight will I not have enough for proper fat redistribution, I heard that fat cycling is good for that though.

Doesn't every stomach look a bit gross if you compress it, plus don't the boys like a thicc girl every now and again?

What's a klienfelter body look like?

Sure my stomach looks disgusting while i sit down or just ate something but at least I got some breast and hip material. Currently my body looks like a klinefelter one

>>8523298
>What's a klienfelter body look like?
http://oncofertility.northwestern.edu/sites/oncofertility/files/legacy_files/f9-10b_abnormal_sex_chr_c.jpg

But i don't wanna exercise i'm sleeping all day and don't want to leave the house :(

>>8523301
Yeah exercise sucks, i find it easier to attach my exercise to an existing routine (every time I go to the bath room do 5 squats), you can always do easy exercise at your house, and have a nicer body then the next girl who does no exercise.
Ah right cheers for letting me know there.
>>8523298
Oops forgot to delete the last bit of your message in my message (copied and pasted it so it was easier to see.)

>>8523301
Exercising gives you so much energy, and makes everything "brighter" in your day.
If you can just get yourself to start, it'll make everything better.

>>8523340
I'm not that person but I wish I had the option to run/jog again. I bought a treadmill a few years ago because I wanted to start exercising but I'm too anxious to go outside. It was great for ages but the last few times I tried to use it my knee hurt for days afterwards and it was hard to work.

I've given it months to heal but I don't think it will. I just seem to have a bad knee now which I don't understand and don't like.

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Jealous of shorter mtf's. Im 5'10.5 and I would do anything to be just a few inches shorter. Why live.

Does anyone believe in the hrt height loss reddit meme?

>>8523417
>tfw 6'0
I've always liked it and thought it was the perfect height. I'm /indefinitelycloseted/ though. It makes me sad to think that if I ever get in the position where I can transition, suddenly my height will be an issue.

>>8523417
5'10 is tall, but you're still well within averages. top 5% sure, but not an unreasonable number. so now, you get to do what cis girls do, and learn to love your height or whatever. most models are around our height.

>>8523340
What exercise do you recommend to do in the morning?

@the anon who said they found my fetlife in the other thread

did it have a long, in-depth, whiny and self-hating 'About Me' section? if so dw that's my legit account
if not lmk

>>8523437
What I did was just do squats during the day, and then go out jogging/walking for like 15-20 minutes.

>>8523462
How many squats? Do you do as many as you can do or squats for 5mins? Do you squat slowly or as fast as you can etc? I'm fairly baby-trans, and exercise never interested me as a guy, I knew that I never wanted to be all bulky, so I don't really know much about this stuff.

>>8523761
I tried to follow one of those "30 day challenges", but I ended up noticing how bad my "posture" was, and quit.
Started with something 30 a day, to about 100 in a day.

Then I did something like
>35 squats
>Stretch
>35 squats
>Stretch
>30 squats
>Stretch

I think it's better to do them quick... But you actually want to do few of them, with weights instead.

>>8523803
Thanks for the help.
What do you stretch when your stretching btw?

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what's something tight and slutty to wear in private around the house?

>>8524774
A moomoo

>>8524746
sit on floor and bend forward (to touch toes, but I can't do that).
Lay on the floor, on the side. With the leg close to the floor, pull it up so it's 90 degrees with your body. Then grab the other legs ankle and pull back. Lay on the other side and do the same thing.

>>8524796
ah ok thanks

It it normal to feel "pain" in the thigh for even a week after an injection? It's not soreness, it's more like something in between "sharp pressure" and "burning". It's very mild but it happens form time to time. The injection spot looks ok and doesn't hurt when I press on it. It's the first time I feel something like that after a year of injecting this shit.

>>8524998
Yea. It'll go away =)

>>8525004
Thx, that's a relief. Should I wait for it to fade away before injecting into the same spot again? It is something that happens from time to time if you're unlucky or is it caused by poor injection technique? I suppose I might have moved the needle around a bit the last time, as I inserted it at a wrong angle.

>No avatar fagging
know i got it, i think is a pretty idea for us the forgeted ones who don't have good trips, i jsut need now more activity in the voice passing threads
>>8523417
>>8523433
>>8523436
i always wanted to be 6'7'' at least, and for me is pretty impossible because i'm just 5'6'', being tall is like a dream to me

>>8523417
>tfw 5'3

I would never have guessed that this is how my height issue would work out in life.

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>tfw you don't trust anybody that says you pass
>tfw you stare at so many selfies for ages analyzing every minute masculine detail of your face that it begins to fuck up your complete perception of passing all together
>tfw not even sure what passing is anymore
>tfw everyone looks like trannies now

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>>8523417
>Does anyone believe in the hrt height loss reddit meme?
No, it's simply a shitty meme that destroys hopes and dreams. Don't fall for it.

6' when I started and 6' a year later.

>>8525248
>i jsut need now more activity in the voice passing threads
Right? There are so many trannies here yet the voice threads always die pretty quickly or are hella inactive.

>>8525498
This holy shit

Do you think freezing your sperm is really all that important? Im starting HRT soon and my doctor said that most people do it, but i dont really have the money nor do I even want to have children. What to do?

>>8526501
if you don't want kids and don't see yourself wanting kids then fuck it, no need
the idea of impregnating a women fucks with my head a lot is not something i ever want to do anyways
if i could be impregnated, then it would be ok, but the way it is, is not ok

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>>8525498
Holy shit. I'm really happy someone else has pointed this out.

Everybody I know in real life thinks I'm a girl when they meet me (I'm not full-time yet). Every time I post in Passgen, I'm told by multiple people that I pass. My boyfriend says that I pass and am a beautiful girl.

I don't believe them. I never believe them. I feel like I'm just being humored. I spend so much time looking in the mirror and deconstructing every single aspect of my face from every possible angle, picking it apart for any hint of masculinity.

I think I'm just going crazy or something. How can I learn to just be happy with myself?

>>8526501
I hate children and have no business raising one. That said, I'm also young, and may end up changing my mind in the future. My boyfriend has also expressed that he would like to raise a child at some point.

My genes shouldn't be passed on. I get a lot of really terrible hereditary mental issues from my mother. If I ever do end up having a kid, I'd rather have a cis woman as a surrogate or, even better, just adopt.

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>>8526581
I use this guy as my inspiration for what kind of attitude I should have. Not looks, fuck no, but attitude. Somehow, he still manages to look cool despite looking like a hobo while wearing a pink dress.

I figure no matter what I look like, I'll always be untouchable by anybody as long as I'm confident and independent.

>>8523417
>tfw 5'2
feels good

>>8526990
>tfw 4'2
feels good

>>8522852

I started camming this week and have been told I have a perfect ass.

I bike about 20-30 miles regularly, sometimes 50+ in a day.

If you want a butt or a nice body there are no secrets. Eat well and work out and don't be a fat hoe

>>8526991
same

>>8526991

>tfw 2'2

feelsgood

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just a reminder
you're all gonna make it

>>8522852
europe, whats the matter? This thread is dead arround our time
>>8527169
thank you
>>8526992
>don't be a fat hoe
TRIGGERED

>>8527597
I guess most people who uses 4chan are merican

>>8523010
i had a similar problem. i naturally had tight hips and glutes, causing posterior pelvic tilt, but it was made worse by relying heavily on my dominant side to carry heavy things 1 handed and only sleeping on that same side (built up & kept one oblique tight, without training or tightening the other). it also fucked with my shoulders, because my pelvis and torso ended up at a slight angle.
i started to do regular ab work and stretches, and when doing legs i do unilateral glute work like step ups or lunges followed by bilateral glute work like barbell hip thrusts.
if one side is significantly weaker, do 2 sets of unilateral work on the weak leg for every 1 set on the strong leg until they are equal.

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h-hi anon, yes you there, wanna b fren?
mayb we can b frens

https://discord.gg/SyQYPJp

>>8529899
Any chance you could name the name of all the exercises, and stretches?

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>tfw my mom told me I'm "destroying" my face today

>>8531900
she's wrong

>>8522852
Remember to do exercise to widen your hips! Squats aren't enough

youtube.
com/watch?v=GELE-Va4EhI

youtube.
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How do i remove hair from my butt? Will hrt eventually make it stop growing on my butt and lower back?

>>8522974
Wood berry.

>>8525498
iktf and I blame this board. I'd gotten very comfortable with my passability and now it's like I need to take a selfie and judge myself before going out. At least it keeps my on my toes and inspires me to put more effort into my appearance.

>>8526501
How many MtFs that freeze their sperm actually use it to have children? I didn't really see a point to freezing sperm. I'm into men, so where does the egg come from and who carries the pregnancy in that situation? So I figured saving sperm would have been a waste of money.

Why do spironolactone smell like mints

>when someone goes "trans" just to play the tranny sympathy card
every fucking time lmfao

>>8536002
what are you even talking about

>>8536069
Alex Mauer and every other non-passing hon who is a tranny i.e. Brianna Who

>>8535865
idk, but mint is also a t-blocker

>>8536074
ok

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Pass or no pass?

>>8536122
Would have to remove the hat and the glasses desu

>>8536122
pass, obviously

Anyone wanna be my gf?I love ass

As someone that is starting out and looking up how to transition. I have a question that's going to show how I have no idea about any of this so I am all ready for laughs but a helpful answer would be great.

Is there anyway I can still have my penis and balls left intact while becoming fully trans? Or I guess I should say, as trans as can be?

Just curious because I know I am a woman but well.... I like having my stuff working.

>>8536122
you pass except for the meaty tuck

>>8537677
You don't need to have SRS.

>tfw I lost all my tabs
It's so empty...

>>8537902
But what about hormone therapy? Won't that have an effect or am I just doomed to be pretty much a crossdresser?

Just gushing here.

But after maybe 6 months on hormones on not seeing all that many results, I realized I'm super skelly mode and need to gain weight.

And now after like a month of eating at a calorie surplus my face is really filling out and I'm super happy about it

>>8538349
HRT will make it more difficult to get erections, etc. but it'll all still work.

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this is what I got so far. really want to start doing squats or something to improve the shape, but I'm too damn lazy

>>8539655
What about cum? Will it still be like it usually it or at least close to it?

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Thoughts?

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>>8522852
Carmen Carrera, I wish I had her butt. Massive jealousy. I try to keep up HIIT exercises and squats

>>8524774
bodysuit

>>8539763
No... But seriously? What?
You're walking into what many will consider "fetishist" territory, so you probably won't get any more answers. You might get more answers from something like trans help general.

>>8539283
I had absolutely tiny hips before I gained weight. Then after I gained weight, I got over 2" of extra hip width. I think it came from muscle and joints and stuff building itself up to a normal size.

Weight is great until you hit normal weight levels, at that point you need to have good fat distribution for it to be worth it.

>>8522974
How can i get all the Hair off my butt without waiting for hrt to work?

>>8541212
epilate

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>>8539828

>>8526839
Its easy for me cause im kinda hsts and i went out in feminine clothes/makeup/drag before even coming to terms with being trans and didnt care if I got maamed/sired/whatever, and having that kind of attitude as an initially "gnc gay guy" growing up in rural america helped me build up an unshakeable confidence.

>>8541506
Wrong thread

>>8542381
how? I'm a trans girl. This is tgg. I'm talking about gender.

>>8543696
hsts/agp belongs in mtfg

today i got my first dildo
haven't tried it yet, very excited
glass wand :3

>>8543739
Trans girls talking about their experiences belongs here, nerd

anyone else ever get kinda sick of having to take their hrt?

>>8546086
I mean, taking meds in general is pretty shit. But sick of taking HRT for the changes? Naw.

>>8546473
i just mean having to talk pills everyday is kinda annoying
not that it is too much to deal with or anything, just kinda sucks i have to do this everyday forever

which is betters illiac crest distance or leg distance

>>8546729
Leg distance.

How do you even deal with gaming friends and stuff? It's all so awkward.

>>8546937
please say that 3rd one isnt trans and is just an ugly guy

>>8541506
where did you go out when you were still a guy? I was looking for a place and now I'm going to a fetish con just for a reason to crossdress

>>8546937
First one has nice tiddies but is a total uggo, the other two look like they're in drag.
The bearded guy is a total cutie though

https://www.ashemaletube.com/videos/311481/trans-amateur-cam---hard-fuck/

I'll date any tranny thats this qt

>>8551470
This is to be expected. No one knows porn as well as perpetually thirsty, sexually frustrated """""men""""" who'll never know the touch of a woman but are too buried in the depths of their own fake, self-harming ideology to ever consider someone else.

>>8550566
Ew

this thread pulsates with activity and then goes completely dark to the point of falling off the board sometimes
why is it like that?

>>8554976
I don't know, I'm not really that active myself.

Why is there a board for mental illness?

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>>8522852
>Wanting a butt edition: How's your butt building going?
Wait, idiots... You want LESS muscles, LESS weight, LESS height, LESS everything. MORE is MASCULINE. You want to be PIC RELATED, did you forget? So why are you pretending now otherwise? Whom are you trying to fool?

>>8522873
>tfw i stop making these and quickly the picture uploaded becomes slutty retarded attention whore bullshit
Uh oh... The anti-AGP brigade rears its sex-hating head again. Now I can go back to sleep safely, knowing that nothing has really changed and that OP is a transient anomaly.

>>8522944
>I just really need to get into the mentality to lose weight.
>Then once I'm skinny, it'll be ok for me... Or so I believe.
>Then of course, I need to work on getting thicker.
And no one saw a contradiction... That's trans women in a nutshell. Then moaning how they are failing to look like women.

>>8522913
>tfw you will never have hips like that
>KILL MEEEEEEEEE
There must be a word that describes this form of stupidity. Help me find it.

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>>8523761
>>8523462
>>8523437
>>8523803
>squats
Noooo! They will build muscles! You want LESS muscles. Did you forget???

>>8523340
>Exercising gives you so much energy, and makes everything "brighter" in your day.
That's because it releases testosterone, you trans idiot.

>>8523325
>i find it easier to attach my exercise to an existing routine (every time I go to the bath room do 5 squats)
I know an even easier way: not doing squats at all.

>>8522994
>>8523020
>i sit on it
Finally some honest trans idiots.

>>8523183
>i'm in the same boat. I try to lose weight as+well but at the same time i'm a bit against it cause i would lose just more hips, thigh and breast material ._.
>Stop with your hips-triggering ;_;
Confirmed for archetypical trans idiot.

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>>8536122
>Pass or no pass?
Depends on your goal. A woman? No pass. A non-pubescent girl? A castrated boy? Pass.

Can I still be happy, a female, and find love with my voice right?

The voice I am currently doing right now, isn't high as most Girls, and I am pretty sure still Boyish, but strangely enough, despite that.
I feel comfortable with it.

Of course I do want to do voice training.
But if worst comes to worst, I can still find happiness with a crappy voice right?

I had a really rough few weeks and I think my depression is starting to lift now because of this "realization", I just don't want it to be a hugboxing thought of mine.

>>8556045
Doesn't matter. Either a person just want to fuck you, or he just like you. Anyway, forget about your voice.

>>8556105
ur voice is beautiful just how it is hon. mine is 8 octaves lower than morgan freeman's, but no one has ever clocked me for it.

xoxo jessica

>>8556105
Even if my voice as deep as most Male Adults?

I mean mine clearly isn't, my best friend has a deeper voice than me and it isn't that deep in general.

But hypothetically if it was.

>>8556167
Forget about you voice. It doesn't matter at all. just be nice and friendly.

>>8556045
If you're ok with your voice you're ok with it. I guess it may be hard to attract people if it's "unnaturally" low, but as long as you're happy with it it's fine. You don't have the be perfect, you know.

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>>8541283
>>8539828

>>8554976
Timezones? I don't know.

>>8555853
>The anti-AGP brigade rears its sex-hating head again
i'm not anti agp
i just wish people would stop posting sexual OP pics, we don't need that and it is just dumb
makes it look like all trannys are sluts

>>8556745
Some of us like pictures like that. Please don't AGPshame.

>>8557156
post them in mtfg you vapid slut

>>8556745
Right, because posting pretentious images is better than variety and relevance to the topic. Fuck off.

>>8557196
>you vapid slut
:O

>>8557198
this thread doesn't need a OP image, so posting art is much better than posting slutty trash that makes trannies look like cock thirsty shallow looks obsessed people

>>8557196
>>8557275
Calm down, jesus christ. The picture isn't even that sexual. If you're worried about trans people's public image, you're doing far more to damage it than a picture of a girl in a pair of jeans ever could.

>>8557303
/r/ing a more sexual OP next thread.

>>8557275
can you seriously neck yourself so you can fall off the balcony from that ivory tower and join the rest of us

>>8557326
what are you talking about?
i live in a garage

>>8557316
post it yourself faggot

>>8557336
Doesn't stop your head from being in the clouds.

>>8557343
i just don't find this shit appealing and find it obnoxious, though i see how i am being just as obnoxious

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>>8557196
>vapid slut

>>8557275
>slutty trash
>makes trannies look like cock-thirsty
>shallow
>looks-obsessed

I think it says all about your attitude to sexuality.
You're as ill and oppressive as transphobic people.

>>8557432
i just feel like it should not be so heavily focused on
sex is great and all, but focusing so heavily on it is just annoying

>>8557442
You're the only person in the entire thread that is focusing on it heavily.

>>8557447
true...

>>8557442
People like you want to erase sexuality altogether. Like certain feminists, you equate femininity with asexuality, and you impose this view on everyone, often with force (compliant mods).

>>8557465
no, not altogether, i just wish it wasn't so heavily focused on, just feels like it is over emphasized
but i see i am being too much myself with how i am behaving about this

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How'd I do?

I read somewhere that stretched fat cells reproduce 50% faster than normal, so I've just been sitting A LOT and sleeping with a pillow under my bum. It worked super well in comparison to what I had even a year ago.

>>8557563
looks like a nice butte, congrats

I'm in love and he loves me back! I'm so happy!

>>8557614
That is a great feels. Totally how I felt/feel about my bf of 3 years now. Just be aware there will be a lot of bumps in the road. I'm not sure if it's like this for everyone or not, but true love was the hardest pill for me to swallow.

I can say I'm happy now and with the person I'm with, but it was definitely an arduous journey.

>>8557622
why is true love hard for you to swallow?

>>8557622
I already know there's going to be alot of bumps but we're willing to work through them and that's what really matters imo. Neither of us are delusional about love. We know it'll be work. Honesly I think the hardest part for a while is already over. We met online so I was super paranoid that he wouldn't like me in person. But he does! I love him so much! I want to share my whole life with him!

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>>8557275
All those "artistic" images just reminds me of something like /tlg/.
The first thread we made had this picture, to set the tone that it was a thread for girls. I think it's even working to use this current OP picture... I didn't expect butt pics, but that's whatever, I was mostly just hoping to have an OP that people feel they can respond to, and start conversation.

While at it, I think we could stop keeping track of the number of generals, it feels really unnecessary...

As for this >>8554976 , why the general goes quiet.
I personally think it's because of toxicity, like >>8541283 >>8556285 >>8556137

>>8556105
>>8556188
Even with this monstrosity?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1N8yPRaQlvt

>>8557614
>>8557622
Not to rain on your parade or anything.
But, why do some guys get interested in trans girls? I know of a couple of guys, but I can't exactly ask them why.

Like, don't they realize sex will be awkward, and all of those difficulties?

>>8557682
I'm the one who has the newer relationship.

I'm not really 100% sure myself. I get very insecure sometimes that he'll leave me for a cis girl. I know he won't like mentally but it's like a primal fear in the back of my head. I feel inferior to them since I can't give him children and require much more prep time to look presentable.

Me and my bf met online and he says that he feel in love with my personality more than anything. I feel the same way about him. Even though he says he thinks I'm beautiful I can tell that he can see all my flaws and they bother him. They bother me too. He could probably get a much better cis gf. But he chose me instead and that's all that matters. Maybe it's because we have so many similar interests and we happened to be in the right place at the right time. Cis girls are kibda rare in certain places online. Maybe it's just because I was there and they weren't, you know.

>>8557629
Because though I have the most profound mental connection with him, he's not the easiest to deal with. Horny af and gets really annoyed if we dont do anything for a few days, while I have a very low sex drive. Though I'm bi with a pref for women, so it could also be that. I'm not sure. Also, when we met I was the most self-centered/narcissistic I have ever been, so learning to like, actually think of others was very difficult and still is (I've made improvements, but like, still needs work). I'm a leo, he's cancer. That, and making room for a person in my life in general was annoying, as well as dragging myself out of a few years of solitude. Over time though, it just was different than any other relationship I had been in, not meaningless sex or half willed acts of timed generosity. I started to actually consider another person to be a part of me and, although we don't have much in common (I'm a gamer/autist/bookworm, he is a normie bad tv show loving, working way too much kind of person) I can't really imagine a life without him.

TL;DR: He's a normie and I grew up on this website.

>>8557676
>While at it, I think we could stop keeping track of the number of generals, it feels really unnecessary...
i'm sorry, i am far too autistic to allow that
if it stops being included in OP, i will include it in first few posts or race to make new thread

>>8557713
how do you two get along???

>>8557713
>Horny af and gets really annoyed if we dont do anything for a few days
huge red flag

>>8557682
It really depend son the guy, I've been with some (breifly) that just wanted me because I was hotter than what they could normally get, or because I was around. I've also been with bi guys, which trans girls are apparently the perfect combo for them. Others, though this can be inclusive of pan/bi people, just don't really care about any of that and love a person for who they are inside. Those are the rarest, but the best!

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>>8557734

>>8557749
What was posted?

>>8557724
How so? Most guys I've been with are that way, it's not like I have to consistently service his dick or anything, he just has a high sex drive in comparison to me.

>>8557724
Mostly the discussions we have, otherwise we are generally on the same wavelength, we have a few things in common, like certain shows and movies, otherwise it's stimulating conversation that I haven't found elsewhere. Also, he's adorably cuddly, and makes me feel short (I'm 5'10"). The sex is good too, but not what draws me to him.

>>8557760
anybody getting upset with you for not having sex with them is at the very least concerning. just sounds like he pressures you into complying with his sex drive, rather than just respecting/adapting to yours

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>>8557758

>>8557825
Why would someone delete that

>>8557784
I mean, I get what you're saying, but he shouldn't have to conform to mine entirely, just as I should have to conform to his entirely. I think we have met a healthy middle ground of every few days

Why do people in the MtF community think 25 is the cut off point?

>>8557838
I don't know... Cut off point is when your genetics give in.
You've gone through a lot of masculinization at 25 though, but the real big time is at like 21-23.

>>8557836
yeah but there's a big difference between having a reasonable discussion with your loved one about what you each want out of your sex life, and having to deal with a boyfriend who gets "really annoyed" at you after only a few days of no sex

>>8557849
As a retired plastic surgeon I'm going to call you out on that. Your masculine features stop developing around the age of 38 - 39.

This is also not accounting for people who are androgynous or race. Asians hit the "cutoff" point a lot sooner than any other race and blacks hit it later.

>>8557678
Your voice should improve quite a lot with voice training, though.

>tfw you're short as a kid
>tfw parents start you on growth hormone therapy so you aren't a manlet
>tfw end up being a trans girl

I could have been 5'4, yall

>>8557857
As a retired plastic surgeon, you're not very attentive.

Does it feel as good as I imagine to have a guy really interested and into you, and I mean when things are turning closer and more intimate?

>>8557857
Why do Asians hit the cutoff point sooner if they're more androgynous?
>>8557838
Because that's when the growth hormones are much greatly reduced in effectiveness. Changes will be comparatively minimal compared to earlier ages. Meanwhile, the skeleton is fused and is now 100% a man's skeleton.

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I feel like I'm in a complicated position.

I've always felt a bit of gender dysphoria, especially when puberty hit and it went into high gear. I used to grow my hair really long and take care of it and try my best to at least appear androgynous. Problem is my genes wanted me to be fucking Thor. I grew to 6'3", and grew extremely wide shoulders, ribs, hands, feet, and course body hair everyfuckingwhere, jarringly so to the point I thought I had a hormone imbalance at the time.

Eventually I gave up on feminizing myself and I grew to be confident in my male body. I got a girlfriend who I've been with for five years, but she later came out to me as trans and wanting to be f2m which was cool with my secretly faggot ass.

Over time his trans-ness has been rubbing off on me and I feel really dysphoric again. Which is strange considering I'm still pretty darn masculine internally and in how I broadcast myself, my body just feel wrong. If I was a cis female I'd probably be a tomboy muscle girl but I'd be a lot more happy and confident in myself.

Should I just take hormones and call it a day? Or should I fully transition as a masculine transgirl? I like the idea of being a tall strong amazonian woman but hate the notion of turning into a hon instead.

>>8557933
Skeleton fuses much sooner than 25, the bulk is done at 18, and shoulders + neck grow up to around 21.

>>8557933
I'm not an expert at any means but just within the context of the conversation I think I've pieced it together.

Sexual dimorphism/development is directly proportional to the amount of time the body is under the influence of hormones and the skeleton changing. The three races(Asians, Whites, and Blacks) have different amounts of time they develop(Short, Medium, Long). Hence Asians are androgynous because they undergo a shorter period of development before their body rejects continued changes, Whites are normal, and Blacks have cartoonishly sexual proportions like 18 inch dicks and asses the size of barrels because their bodies are receptive to more growth hormones over a longer period of time.

Am I right?

>>8557956
Not to be gloomy but your chances of being a hon far outweigh your chance of being Wonder Woman

If you're truly gender dysphoric you'll take those odds

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>>8557676
Does this make me a bad person?

>>8558052
Strange thing though is that despite my size my face is pretty feminine and my hips and waist are as thick as the rest of my body. My lower half is a lot more feminine than my upper, maybe I could play to that with an hourglass shape?

I think I'm probably going to do hormones and and see where that takes me. At worst I feel a little bit better with myself.

>>8558461
you already know it does

>>8536122
not that its like a huge clock if you're not looking for it but your forehead would benefit from some kinda bangs

>>8537677
you'd have to be on antiandrogens indefinitely unless you get your testicles removed, but thats horrible for your liver also your junk will never function the same as long as youre on hrt

does walking like a girl actually target your glute muscles more? is that why girls have butts the way they do? is there a guide for such a thing? I think I'm passable from a proportions perspective but my ass is 404 not found. it's depressing.

>>8561722
When you walk, put one foot directly in front of the other.

That's how girls walk.

>>8561827
oh I do, I also try hard not to slump my shoulders over or wave my arms like a gorilla. it's amazing how much those little body language things can help with passing.

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Who is she?

>>8561827
Is it really that simple?

>>8537677
3.5 years in and mine still works

I think it depends on how much you use it, and randomness of how meds affect certain things. I look pretty female too (I hate myself and even though i'm completely doubtful, everyone I know tells me I pass)

>>8561827
There's posture too.

Don't die!

>>8565304
What if I want my suffering and misery to finally end

>>8565351
Then you become the prettiest girl, and find the most handsome and care-taking man.

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About the GDQ...
That breath of the wild runner could actually pass, if her body is good enough.

Her face is cute, and small, at least. Needs a lot of voice work, though.

I'm putting off straightening my hair because I've literally never taken more detailed care of my hair before than "use shampoo and conditioner in the shower"

I don't own any hair products or tools and I have no clue what to buy

f u c k

is it just me or its normal to have your voice be unable to go any high in the evening? And I dont talk during the day at all, so its not vocal cords strain. I dont smoke.

Yes, they get dehydrated, and then they aren't working as well anymore.

Any cute traps in Miami or South FL? Looking for one.

>>8557563
Perfect.

>>8565372
Both are impossible.

>>8567192
Anyone would look potentially passable sat next to that diaper fetishist

>>8565351
Isn't all suffering relative?
Everyone is deprived of something better.

>>8524774
What is this type of top that she's wearing even called? Somebody please tell me, I"ve been wondering about this shit for years.

>>8570069
Halter top?

>>8555905
>>squats
Noooo! They will build muscles! You want LESS muscles. Did you forget???
bullshit! the muscle builds underneath the fat if you dont diet.

>That's because it releases testosterone, you trans idiot.
this is correct

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>>8570136
>bullshit! the muscle builds underneath the fat if you dont diet.
I was ironic. Muscles are a blessing for all genders. Sadly, 99% of MtFs think otherwise. In their mind, feminine = weak and asexual. Out of all women in the world, they pick those least developed to be the standard to aspire to. And their doctors don't help it because they share the same degrading notion of femininity. The whole HRT is based on this notion. Result: real-life trans women are eunuchs in women's clothes.

The gender liberation movement, as it currently stands, is a world emasculation movement in disguise. It's equally misandric and misogynistic. (Only look at its vehement repression of gynephilia. Their "tolerance" and "liberalism" only go this far.)

finally got my HRT start date, 1 week from today. I'm so nervous but so happy. I have been losing weight and dieting/walking. I honestly believe I will finally be happy as a female. Laser hair removal next up for my face.

I plan on slowly wearing uni sex stuff until I look and feel like a girl 100%, I guess I will ease into it.

How do you all transition clothes wise?

>>8570263
>Sadly, 99% of MtFs think otherwise.
Maybe 'ironically' supporting this belief isn't helping.

>>8570481
>How do you all transition clothes wise?
Before starting HRT I worse unisex and male clothing in public and female clothing in private.

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>>8570518
It clearly is helping because you responded to my post.

If I talked unironically, you would sit quiet and watch as others attack me for supporting healthy outlook. It is helping because it shows the stupidity of those who actually think so. It woke you up. Where were you when I talked unironically?

>>8569765
>doesn't know difference between traps and trans

>>8570578
I didn't respond to your post. I saw it when you first posted it days ago and ignored it. Like most people I just assumed you were an asshole, rather than someone pretending to be an asshole.

But good luck on your quest to make the world a better place using pointless reverse psychology.

Bike. I bike about 2 miles to work one way for the last 3 years and I get complimented on my ass regularly. Plus it's good exercise and fun!

>>8570578
I'm assuming you're >>8555905 >>8555853

You were literally the only one in here that was anti-exercise, and against building muscle.

does anyone else have a lot of stuffed animals? not in some creepy adult baby way, I just fin it really helps to hug them when I'm feeling down.

>>8571410
I have a lot from my childhood because I can never bring myself to throw them away, and this post just reminded me that all of them are currently squished in a container together and now I feel guilty.

I always sleep holding a pillow though, and I have thought about starting a collection of brand new stuffed animals because I think it's a cute aesthetic but I don't think it's a good idea because then I'll have even more objects that I'm too emotionally attached to.

>>8571424
i know! I feel bad about buying new ones because I'm not sure if I can give them the love they need lol

but really it always makes me sad seeing stuffed animals getting mass produced that are ultimately destined for landfill ;_;

>>8522980
Ellie how do I get tits and ass as good as you

>>8571636
don't reply to trips

>>8571424
awww I always loved to play with stuffed animal toys giving them personality
and I remember dad bought me a big plush lion which was a bit weird present for a boy but I loved it
It was really sad throwing it all away when I grew up and moved to live on my own

>sleep holding a pillow though
same, I have an extra pillow that I love to hug when sleeping or comforting mylsef since no one to cuddle

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>>8522852
do i habe a butte?

>>8541212
i just shave the same way i shave my legs. doesnt take long to get good at it

>>8571655
>and I remember dad bought me a big plush lion which was a bit weird present for a boy but I loved it
I remember going out of my way to make my mom buy them for me even when I was "too old" for a boy to want stuff like that.

>>8571776
No, but you're definitely on the line to have a plateau.

But no, no butte, sorry.

>>8571348
>saying "you want it" means "I want it"
Idiot. Calling you out for what you want desn't mean that I want it.

>You were literally the only one in here that was anti-exercise, and against building muscle.
Liar or idiot. Or both. Show me ONE trans woman who wants bigger muscles. You can't. Every single trans woman on /lgbt/ wants to lose muscles. The only thing protecting your lie is time and effort it would take me to compile examples.

>>8574890
Idiot.

What do I tell my therapist, first session. Kinda nervous.

>>8575305
I had my first session like a week ago. Don't worry, they'll probably ask you a bunch of questions. Just try and be honest.

>>8575305
just dont tell them you want to off yourself or harm anyone and you'll be fine

body hair makes me feel like giving up on life sometimes, it just stars back at me laughing in my face
fuck you body hair

>>8567192
>>8569838
which one is the diaper fetishist?

Just ordered HRT stuff for the first time, self medding. Still super nervous and excited, but it should be here in less than fifteen days.

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Hey guys! We got a cute discord server going :3
Come hangout in voice, play videogames and watch anime together? Or maybe use the nsfw channels and post lewd stuff or just enjoy it.

Join in now!!
https://discord.gg/mQaKyG5

Is anything wrong with wanting to present as a slightly butch transbian post transition? Flannels seem more comfy than dresses

>>8578857
Same. I need laser/electro or a waxing kit bad

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Turned 18 last month and just found out how fucking thick my arms are, will estrogen make them more twiggish?

>>8579327
Sooo you will look like a boy with boobs? nothing wrong with it if you are not trying to socially transition

>>8579355
You will lose muscles with now T but not bones of course

>>8579484
>now
= low

>>8579484
I mean, the ideal is to someday look like a girl in boyish clothes. I don't really wanna wear dresses and stuff too often. Comfy is important

>>8579540
Have you actually tried wearing dresses? They can be quite comfortable.

im trans, my gf is trans
i ask her to say bad/mean things to me in bed (call me a slut, a whore, etc) and she always refuse because she "loves me and dont want to hurt me"
im too shy and conservative to even ask some random guy online to do it

>>8580696
You just can't help yourself, can you you cheap little slut? Turn down your sick, perverted desires to be insulted and what's the first thing you do? Run off to peddle your ass around /tttt/ trying to get some sympathy. I'd say you should be ashamed but a carpetmunching failure of a fetish-obsessed AGP transbian pretty much has no shame by definition. You'd be fortunate if anyone cared enough to even toss you in a kennel somewhere until your gf finally gets bored of not having your useless ass around.

Now fuck off from this board and go beg for your fetish fix elsewhere, you degenerate whore, before I give screenshots to your girlfriend and suggest she have you introduce your boipussy to IcyHot while she's swallowing Carth's balls and ignoring your whimpers.

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heh i'm using a tripcode

thoughts on the following bingo, fellow hons?

>tfw you are broken and will never feel right no matter how hard you try
feels like the only way out is dying, this life does not seem salvageable

>>8580764
>waaahhh fetishes exist ppl do weird shit on fortune

grow up

>>8580973
more like grope up, ayy
:D

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>>8580806
>"Had to get permanent hair removal"

Gurl, you are raising the bar pretty high!

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>>8580973
I can only assume this is bait, as I don't want to post with the retarded. They're too busy finding God.

Hi. This is my first time posting on this board. Sorry if I break any rules.

I am a cis girl and I have gone very up and down in weight lately. I have a lot (like over 50) bras that no longer fit in 4-5 different sizes. They are all small (32B to 34D) and I was wondering if maybe there was an organization or group that benefits transgirls I could donate these to.

>>8581474
https://www.thirdlove.com/blogs/unhooked/where-to-donate-your-old-bras

>>8581474
>50 bras

Is it a trans girl thing that I've probably owned only a dozen bras in my life? I've been wearing them since I was 15, maybe it's down to my parents not taking my boobs as seriously as they would a cis daughter's

>>8581535
No, I just have an honest to god shopping problem. I think 5-10 is normal.

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how do I stop getting emails from susans place?

>>8581569
>humble-bragging about how rich you are

i think i hate you

>>8581634
Ha ha, I wish. It's not a shopping PROBLEM if you actually have enough money to be shopping all the time, now is it?

>>8581663
>tfw $700 canadian a month income

>>8581895
Sounds like neet income though?

>>8581963
yes it is

>>8525498
goodness christ, same. I feel like a genderless blob when I look in the mirror now.

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>>8582012
maybe don't look in the mirror?

i'm having days where i remember i'm trans. and that i'm on medication that makes me look different but it feels so odd because ive always thought of myself as a girl but only recently (couple years) have other people thought so. i wouldn't say i'm stealth because i feel like most people can tell, but theyre still kind and interaction flows pretty well.

>>8580357
Haven't really had a chance to wear any that would fit. I just hear most of my cis girl friends complain about clothes. Admittedly, I also just like the tomboyish look, though not sure I could pull it off as a trans girl

>>8580806
>tfw pre HRT and basically asexual
Is that actually common?

>>8582569
It could just be you not being comfortable with your body causing that.

>>8582754
That's what I think it is too. Just kinda wondering if it's more common than I thought

>>8582758
I recall Maya talking about similar stuff in her videos. I don't think she said explicitly about being asexual but she did talk how she felt that she couldn't be in a relationship or get intimate with anyone because of her body. But being on HRT for a long time changed how she felt and she was kinda okay being a chick with a dick.

>>8582773
Makes sense

>have trans friend
>no HRT, no doctor visits, still has a neckbeard
>in a poly relationship with two transbians who also are also neckbearded
Thoughts?

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>>8582807
Too much anime.

Even if they legit felt they are trans they're just making it worse for other trans who are actually putting in the effort. But if there's no attempt to transition then I doubt they actually feel trans, they're just doing it for their anime induced insanity of wanting to be the little girl.

>>8581474
That's so nice of you

Hey straight guy here, my transgilr gf complains that condoms hurt and im too much of a pussy(yuck) to go raw, which condom/lube combo is best feeling for the bottom?

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Does the fight against one's own body ever end?

>>8583239
for some people

does penile atrophy affect how well your penis works? i kinda want my penis to be smaller just so its cuter but i want it to be the same otherwise

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>>8571424
in my bed i have a big bear an aunt gifted me few years ago when i was sick, i hug him everynight i sleep here
i also have small plushes in my wardrove, a bear my cousin gifted me for xmas, an animal i bought in a zoo because reminds me of my gf, a mr saturn that my gf gifted me, and a winnie which my gf hide on my backpack few weeks ago and it stayed here until i bring him back

At my gf house (where i spend half of my time) i always rescue plushes, from the xmas tree, plushes they are donating or throwing away, plushes that are alone in some box, etc. I have rescue around 5 or 6 plushes that are in my gf desk now, but we put them on the bed just when one of us is sick and have to stay in bed

>starting electro soon
>can't shave
>realize I had way more dysphoria over facial hair than I thought
Halp

>>8585867
you're going to get through this and feel much better anon, don't worry

>>8584271
that sloth and panda make an adorable couple

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Anyone here plays TERA?

I just want a cute trans gf with a rock hard 2 incher, is that too much to ask?

>>8589779
mine is 7 inch
too much for you?

>>8589820
Beggars can't be choosers, you got discord? :'(

>>8588791
I last played a bit when the Valkyrie came out. I also got a max level zerk from the past. The game's leveling is so boring and the endgame is weird. The combat was so much fun though. Do you play on EU or NA?

>>8588791
No I play an actual good MMO, WoW.

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>>8590098
EU.
I'm actually almost getting burned out on just leveling though. I have a few level 65's... But, if you want to play the difficult dungeons you need gear and experience, and you can't really get that without playing with friends.

>>8590120
WoW is so boring... You even have to quest in the end game.

>>8590120
WoW stopped being any bit of good years ago. The game has no soul.

>>8590213
>But, if you want to play the difficult dungeons you need gear and experience, and you can't really get that without playing with friends.
Yeah I found it really weird like the leveling was so faceroll and the first piece of end game content was instantly so difficult that I actually had to look up a guide to be worth anything there. At the same time you had like 2 different dungeons in the end game (this was when the expansion had just come out) and limited entries per day. So there was fuckall to do and it was hard to learn to play because you could only do the actual hard content for just a bit.

It also felt like there was barely anything to do aside from those two dungeons. I also don't quite like how they break the immersion of the game with all the real life inspired cash shop costumes and items. Sucks that so many MMOs do that.

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>>8531900
I'm still in the closet, but if my mom tells me that one day I'm pretty sure I'd laugh at her (thencryinmybeduntilIfallasleep):
>HAHAHAHahHAhaHa jokes on you, my face was a piece of shit to begin with

>>8590327
They actually made the leveling dungeons "harder", by adding like 5-10x more HP to bosses, and making them immune to stuns.

There really isn't much to do at all in the game, other than running dungeons. Usually you'll have a couple of characters, so you get enough runs out of it.

In total there's like 6-7 dungeons, where I believe at least 2 are "hard mode" versions.

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>>8567192
They disabled the Twitch chat during that run didn't they?
The gaymin' community can be a pain in the ass when it comes to LGBT shit.

>>8590552
They made it emote only.

>>8590491
>They actually made the leveling dungeons "harder", by adding like 5-10x more HP to bosses, and making them immune to stuns.
That sounds absolutely retarded. Though maybe if in the past they died so fast that you didn't really even get to experience their mechanics then it might've been a good change. The powercreep has affected even the leveling process quite heavily based on my Valkyrie so I guess it made sense. Though I did still solo some dungeons with her.

>There really isn't much to do at all in the game, other than running dungeons.
I'm more used to the MMORPGs of the old that basically have endless stuff for you to do. Raiding endgame was a mistake that ruined a lot of MMOs WoW included.

>>8557885
omg i feel u so much

they thought about starting that shit on me but it was too late cuz my plates fused or whatever so im 5'2 now and im happy

how tall are you now?

>>8580764
this turned me on

>>8590816
Honestly, I think some game where it takes a while to level, with fun dungeon, and difficult elaborate quests, could be fun.
My hopes are in Lost Ark, but chances we'll get it this decade are probably not very high...

Gaming really isn't what it used to be.

>>8590816
>>8590888
Oh, and the boss HP is because of how quickly they died. When avatar weapons were introduced to leveling, dungeons really weren't much, bosses die in like 10-20 seconds.
Previously, there was no such thing as avatar weapon, so bosses were much more difficult, and took much longer to complete. I believe they also made the dungeons easier before avatar weapons were a thing as well. I remember the BAMs used to be really strong, something equal to what bosses are in the dungeons now.

Not to mention the whole 1-20 leveling experience, it used to be close to 7-10 hours (maybe 5 if you're quick).. now it's 1 hour. I don't think that's too bad though, spending at least 5 hours with so few skills is kind of boring.

As I said though, I think it could have been fun with such slow leveling, had the leveling process been fun.

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>>8580806
how'd i do

>>8590919
>Is only into girls or trans girls
Wrong, it doesn't matter if you're only into them, it's AGP either way.

life is a cruel joke

>>8590919
Phew, close.

Though, the "voice training is hard" is pretty misleading.
Does that person mean "gay voice" or standard male voice?

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>>8590988
>You cannot delete a post this new!
>You cannot delete a post this old...

Ok then... here's the pic I forgot.

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>>8590954
>it's AGP to be bisexual

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You need to rethink your squares because I'm a hon

>>8591004
you started before 15 and you still want FFS?!?!

>>8591394
Just forgot to fill it
It's freespace anyway, it's always filled.

>>8591021
It's HSTS not HorBSTS. The only BS here is your meme.

umm...guys...
i am on 125mg of spiro a day and i am only supposed to take at morning, but i just took a nap and woke up at 9pm when is usually when i take my 2nd dose of estrogen for the day and just accidentally took my full spiro dose with my estrogen because i was over tired and did it auto-mode
is this going to fug me up at all?
i am kinda concerned

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close but no cigar

>>8591573
One wrong dose doesn't matter. Only regular wrong doses shall harm you.

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>>8580806
>tfw total hon
No one is attracted to me except nerdy bi guys with no standards.

>>8591573
so you took twice as much spiro for a day? youll live

>>8590888
>Gaming really isn't what it used to be.
Tell me about it. I've been thinking that maybe I'm outgrowing gaming and I've noticed that my gaming habits have changed quite drastically in the last few years. Somehow playing games is just not the same anymore.

>>8590899
>As I said though, I think it could have been fun with such slow leveling, had the leveling process been fun.
Definitely. It's quite sad they originally chose to go with the most boring questhub hopping for leveling. I want to see more open MMORPGs where it's not a set route of quests you go through but more like you're set into a world free to explore and figure out what you want to do. And the focus shouldn't be in some endgame but on the overall journey through the game.

>>8591413
The BS is Blanchardfagging in the first place.

i can feel a hair on my back
should i kill myself?

>>8592594
i have like stray black hairs on my back, like just a few lone hairs, fucking drives me fucking insane

>>8592594
>>8592642
How the fuck does one shave one's back?

>>8592690
bullet to the temple

new thread
>>8593197

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>>8575089
>>8595074