Why isn't there a gay equivalent of a TERF?
>>8422336
Because men don't hate women the way women hate men.
>>8422336
TERF was coined by tigtog, a radfem. Gay men would have to come up with their own term, mainly as a reductive insult. Since ftms don't have dicks, and you're excluding them (hypothetically) I recommend 'cocksucker.'
>>8422336 (OP)
There are. They're just not always gay. Sometimes, they're platonically gay, they're maniacally desperate for attention of fellow dudes, but prefer just beering it up, having pizza together, having mock boardroom meetings, that kind of stuff.
Because gays don't revolve around feminism as much as women do therefore an equivalent doesn't make any sense.
>>8422561
MRA's are a thing
>>8422378
^this^
>>8422594
MRAs sure are, but they're mostly just bitter old str8 men. Gays have no reason to care much about "child support" or whatever MRAs pretend to care about when it comes to legal issues.
>>8422610
t. doesn't care about the discrimination all men suffer
>>8422594
MRA is only a thing because men hate women.
TERF is a thing because trans people say dicks can be female.
>>8422622
t. gets bullied for being a nu-male and calls it "discrimination" because he's a filthy thin skin
You're all the same: failed men. Might as well take skittles and jump on the tranny barge, freak!
>>8422628
TERF is a thing because of both transmisogyny and regular old misogyny. It comes from a place of extreme negativity about womanhood in general.
>>8422622
#NotAllMen
>>8422651
Hahaha, no. Men invented mtfs. Many mtfs don't even want to get rid of their dicks. If it wasn't for men medicalizing and legalizing transition, mtfs would not exist.
Raymond might have been wrong in some ways, but men still aren't women, and mtfs are just shitty, entitled men.
If you're a woman, I genuinely hope you unfuck your mind someday from these lying men's influence.
>>8422378
you mean lesbians, not women in general
>>8422699
>rah rah rah men
TERFs have one button, and it's always the easiest button to disregard.
Enjoy the crippling daddy issues, freak.
>>8422651
TERF is misandry.
>>8422720
Wow, amazing rebuttal.
>Enjoy the crippling daddy issues, freak.
I bet you get assblasted over feminists having 'male tears' cups or calling men virgins, though.
>men control the entire society in general
>'omg rah rah rah men wahhh'
>>8422720
He'll probably mellow out when he gets on T
>>8422757
>women who think men are men are actually ftms
>mtfs and men can never be held accountable for anything ever
Butch lesbians are just FtMs in denial. Their hate for men is hilariously ironic.
>>8422796
>can't even stay on topic
wow, can men do anything right? :(
>>8422750
>>8422781
>insults are legit arguments
>intentional logical fallacies
such an epic ruseman :^)
>>8422813
>insults are legit arguments
>Enjoy the crippling daddy issues, freak.
who's really trying here, shitbrains?
>>8422336
I have better stuff to do with my life than bitch about some tranny on the internet.
Women on the other hand like always have to cry too much about everything.
>>8422824
>Insults capable of being rebutted by anything but an insult
>it's another episode of "I don't need to field anything logical, only YOU DO!!!!"
i'll give you a 3/10 lol, you'll probably consider it a 10 because I gave you two (You)s though
*thread hidden*
>>8422834
ok, fedora
>>8422336
Because men are more rational and dont want to compete for the oppression Olympics, these terfs are such insecure scum they call trannies opresserors and rapists lol.
Lol at them calling mras sexist when their leaders are mothers fed up with their boys being demonized by feminism, and terfs etc literally use man as an insult lol.
>>8422378
women only hate men because men hate women
>>8422950
>these terfs are such insecure scum they call trannies opresserors and rapists lol.
mtfs literally murder and rape women, and advocate for the rape of lesbians as feminist issue. They also don't want women to talk about abortion, menstruation, etc.
>when their leaders are mothers fed up with their boys being demonized by feminism
Paul Elam is not a mother. You're lying about everything right now.
>>8422970
>mtfs literally murder and rape women
It's true, you're not apart of the club until you rape and murder at least one lesbian.
im starting to think everyone in lgbt hates everyone else
>>8422992
Your glibness about dead women is duly noted, mtf.
>>8422970
>mtfs literally murder and rape women
This is why I'm an mtf mra.
>>8422970
>mtfs literally murder and rape women, and advocate for the rape of lesbians as feminist issue.
What the hell.
>>8422997
Welcome to the honesty of 4chan.
>>8423008
Enjoy your peek inside the minds of feminists!
>>8423017
Cotton ceiling was never advocation of rape, and it's mostly a meme that's only referenced by TERFs now.
>>8422999
okay but cross out mtf and put ftm instead
>>8422970
>mtfs literally murder and rape women, and advocate for the rape of lesbians as feminist issue. They also don't want women to talk about abortion, menstruation, etc
what are you even going on about. None of that is true of the entire group, and I've never met anyone concerned with stopping women from talking about that latter. I think you just have problems
>>8422960
Woman need to step up their game then because they're getting BTFO
>>8423027
It was. Drew Deveaux coined it as a cultural movement to get mtfs laid.
>it's mostly a meme that's only referenced by TERFs now.
Well, they're smart enough to not use the words, but Riley J Dennis' video about genital preference was the same thing. So was tumblr's "you're not a real lesbian, you're a vagina fetishist" period. Those examples are all about getting women to say yes to dick. It's coercion framed as feminism.
>>8423042
>le edgy ftm misogynist
How does it feel to be a tryhard stereotype? Are the real men watching? Do they look impressed?
>>8423045
>I've never met anyone concerned with stopping women from talking about that latter.
lol pay more attention then
>I think you just have problems
Caused by men, yeah.
>>8423082
Whatever floats your boat I guess
because gay men generally don't care about some salty little ftm tumblrina whining that gay men likes dick too much
they are not the only ones that thinks that's sucking dick is "problematic" get in line
>>8423082
You got me, the only reason I could possible disagree with you is because I want to impress cis men. It couldn't possibly be because what you said is retarded.
>>8423161
They still literally rape and murder women, ftm. And they rape ftms like you too. Stay away from Cherno Biko.
>>8423169
Yeah mtfs have raped and murdered women, men have done the same but so have women so stop demonising a whole group of people for the actions of a few especially if you only do it for the groups you feel like.
>>8423190
The percentage of women raping women is extremely small compared to men raping women.
Stating the facts is not "demonizing" you misogynist.
>>8423082
>trannies shaming lesbians for not being attracted to them is wrong
>but feminists shaming men for being attracted to women is right
>>8423212
>The percentage of women raping women is extremely small compared to men raping women.
Actually untrue, not that feminists would ever publicize the stats.
because gay men dont give a fuck about things that dont have dicks, or dont acknowledge their own.
FtM's usually dont have surgery, and if they do they know better than anyone else it isnt a real penis.
>>8422378
Pretty much this.
TERFs are mostly bitter old second wavers, detransitioned FtMs and misandrist lesbians that had a bad anecdote with a transbian. They feel impotent and resentful due to their perceived lack of agency and respect in a world controlled by cisgender men so they take their resentment and fear out onto trans women because they undermine the efficacy of radfem misandry and the ideology surrounding it along with the simple fact that they're an easy target. They use fear-mongering, strawman arguments, and simple transphobia to push back their legal rights and medical care with the end goal of "morally mandating" them out of existence.
>>8422336
Because if you look enough like a normal guy then we're not going to freak out.
>>8422378
>He's never visited /r9k/
>>8423297
It's amazing that you can get a lot right but somehow think men don't hate women. like. lol
i love when trans feminists and TERF fighting amongst each other it's like watching spiders fight in a jar except less sexual arousing.
>>8423381
>aroused by spiders
Are men even human anymore?
>>8423324
I never said that misogyny doesn't exist.
>>8423394
Why do women get so bitchy when you dont find them sexy
femininity is so fragile lol
>>8423381
>mfw I realize trans vs terfs is just unattractive women fighting over men
>>8423381
I know, its like seeing jews and arabs kill each other. As long as the body count keeps going up, i dont give a fuck whos winning.
>>8423169
>Cherno Biko
They're black. Why didn't you say black people rape and murder women? Why only focus on the mtf part?
>>8423426
most TERFs are carpet munchers, they just want their sekrit tru womyn klub
>>8423426
No that's feminists in general, TERFs are repressing FTMs turning their self-hate into misandry and especially mtf transphobia.
>>8422999
Right and how many times have you posted fantasies about enslaving and wiping out all men in lesbian threads here
>inb4 it's just a joke bro
>>8423466
Wanna know a secret? Outside of chasers, NO ONE wants a 'make believe' boy/girl. Like it or not, its a mental defect... I can PROMISE YOU every single gay guy whos in a relationship with a FtM would prefer that person was a legitimate man and not a cunt with testosterone.
TERF's are just more vocal about that than others. The sentiment is still universal. And considering how feminists are always scared shitless about rape(even though the reality of them being feminists is probably enough to dissuade anyone from raping them) the idea of a person with male biology(2x as much upper body strength, 80% more lower body strength) manipulating them into a scenario where they could be victimized by them does make sense.
Huh... looky there, a tranny finally got me to make a choice: tranny or feminist. Frankly, i'm surprised I picked feminist too. Both are wretched groups of "people" though.
>>8423212
Don't compare the percentage of male rapists against female rapists, compare the amount of male rapists to the number of males who are not. Most men (and mtfs) are not monsters.
>>8423478
old fashioned penis envy
>>8423537
Sigmund!! My god, I thought you were dead!!
>>8423515
I agree with almost everything in your post, it's not a secret
just that TERFs and radfems in general have just as many mental issues, most are privileged immature women who never got over their "boys are yucky" phase
>>8422336
Because nobody cares about your stupid faggot activism
>>8423515
>the idea of a person with male biology(2x as much upper body strength, 80% more lower body strength)
Lol that's not true of trans women. At least non-hons. And they want to be with lesbians who can easily dominate them, so you have to control for that too.
>>8423582
Chill bro FtMs =/= repressed FtMs who exercise their misogyny against trans women and pretend that it's radical
>>8422970
Love how terfs do the most damage to their grouo by just talking lol.
>>8423582
Mtfs hate ftms and think of them as walking baby makers. They also resent them for being in women's spaces. So of course they use them as a "boogeyman" in TERF circles.
>>8423589
>And they want to be with lesbians who can easily dominate them
Dana McCallum literally raped his wife. Stop lying.
>>8423619
Paul Elam is still not a mother, lying anon.
>>8423634
>Dana McCallum
I don't even know what that is. I'm just talking about your average transbian who wants to reproduce heterosexual dynamics with a butch partner.
>>8423634
>Dana McCallum literally raped his wife. Stop lying.
So did 50% of cis lesbians.
>>8423666
women can't oppress others because they don't gain anything from the patriarch
pig
>>8423634
>Dana McCallum literally raped her wife.
[citation needed]
>>8423634
Lies mtfs dont hate ftms normally chill with each other.
>>8423710
>Dana McCallum
http://valleywag.gawker.com/twitter-engineer-dana-mccallum-pled-guilty-to-two-misde-1643207780
do you even google
>>8423694
You have to be a poe lol, cis women are literally the most privileged right now.
>>8423161
Nah with them if you disagree wth them it can only mean you're a stupid silly little confused girl who has been tricked and brainwashed by the patriarchy.
The ironic sexism is so dense practically physical.
>>8423212
>The percentage of women raping women is extremely small compared to men raping women.
How about the percentage of women raping women compared to trannies raping women?
Or do the numbers stop mattering when they don't tell the story you want?
>>8423324
>They use fear-mongering, strawman arguments, and simple transphobia to push back their legal rights and medical care with the end goal of "morally mandating" them out of existence.
>lol who cares about that shit all men are just scum pigs and that's all that matters!
>>8423858
>Or do the numbers stop mattering when they don't tell the story you want?
Don't you know anything about feminism? They just lie. Look at the wage gap.
>>8423634
Anecdotes are not evidence. Unless you can provide me with research showing that a significant fraction of trans women commit rape then you have nothing.
I could find individual rape reports concerning nearly any group on the planet, finding a couple of them committed by trans women means absolutely nothing.
>>8422442
About the only comparable situation is the MASC4MASC hatred of femboys.