How many of you fellow mtfs transitioned earlier than caraposter?

>>8359869
cara is early trans hsts ftm

>>8359869
when will we see progress HRT pics from caraposter?
>>8359873
nonsense, xie's AAP

>>8359869
Cara is the most kawaii tomgirl ever, she's extremely courageous for taking going the right path and transitioning.

She was inspired by Christine Chandler visual novels which have both a great art style and mention topics related to trangenderism.

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I started 'mones a couple weeks before my 19th birthday, 24 now. I'm a hopeless twinkhon but at least I'm not in Cara's position.

>>8359873
no that's trent

>>8359931
>15
>early

If I'm not early, he isn't.

>>8359931
What does Trent even look like?

Is Cara back now btw? And are they one person or a sentient collective personality? I used to co-create the skullsize autist's ego so I'm asking…

>>8359929
16 here. Fugly hon thinks I'm "illegitimate" for not transitioning earlier but look at him transitioning 6 years later than me.

>>8359941
who say you aren't?

>>8359869
I don't remember Frankie Muniz ever having such poofy hair or looking so emaciated. Was this after Malcolm in the Middle?

>>8359929
Cara is qt and has lots of potential.
t. paid for Cara's HRT

>>8359948
He looks different from what I'd expected before seeing him. Not going to give any details because privacy.

>>8359996
Are you going to do that for the rest of his life since he'll always be a desperate poorfag? You sure are an idiot. Just wait until he stabs you in the back like the psychopath he is.

Also
>Cara
>qt
Pick one.

>>8359996
Can you pay for mine or I need to shitpost and try to murder other trannies IRL for it?

>>8359996
>Not going to give any details because privacy.
Guess that means he's fat/ugly

>>8359996
>Cara is qt
What did they mean by this?

>>8359984
most people presumeably

>>8359979
>16 here
enjoy your 2 year ban

>>8360147
I meant I transitioned at 16 you fucking moron. We're talking about ages we transitioned at. I'm 21 now.

>>8360022
Cara *is* qt
t. a hon

>>8360031
Be a sufficiently interesting person in a way that doesn't copy Cara. I like interesting people even if they do crazy things, but multiple people who are essentially the same are not going to interest me.

>>8360196
Doing it wrong. You need to study additional Caras as controls and not give them HRT or give them different HRT.

>>8360196
So how long are you going to be paying for his hormones? Did it not occur to you that he may never be able to afford them himself, and that there could be serious side effects if he suddenly stops taking them?

Paying for some complete stranger's medical transition that they will need for the rest of their lives is a bad decision, and I'm surprised you haven't figured that out.

>>8360209
I'm not doing this to study Cara, I'm doing it to help her.

>>8360215
I dunno, hopefully we'll figure something out.

>>8360260
>I'm doing it to help her.
why?

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>>8360468
What makes you think I don't deserve it?

>>8360522
You deserve some BBC in your boipucci.

>>8359929
what took you so long

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>>8360522
Cara dis is ya boy Carth pls accept this rare Cara I found of her wearing a trilby back when she actually looked bangable. Add it to your collection and enjoy it my faM.

Hope your transition is going well.

Regards, your family
The Carthaginian :^)

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>>8359869
Me just barely at 20. Feels good knowing that I pass better despite not being "legitimately trans".

>>8359869
Me. I transitioned at 14 and pass far better than cara ever will, even if I'm not considered legitimate by her standards.

>>8361452
post pics

>>8360040
just an aiden
not a truaiden though, i'll be fine after fms

>>8362067
forgot trip

>>8359869
none

>>8362073
You can't be that bad dude, FtM literally just need to lift a bit, stop plucking eyebrows and take HRT.

Unless you dress as justin bieber you will be 100% unclockable.

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>>8362067
t. ugly, potentially fat

>>8363038
>Unless you dress as justin bieber you will be 100% unclockable.
This is a completely idiotic statement and you obviously haven't seen many IRL ftms, because the vast majority of them won't pass no matter what they do. In fact, ftms tend to pass -less- when they try dressing and presenting in a masculine way.

>>8363047
Shut up cara.
As long as he goes for the manlet with unshaven beard and a hoodie no one will ever bat an eye on him.

He will never compete with a Chad but he can easily be a normie dude.

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>>8363060
that's fiona, retard
>>8363038
>stop plucking eyebrows
they grow in the exact shape of pic related, have grown in that exact shape my entire life, and t did nothing to change that
i'm not even sure how eyebrow plucking is supposed to work
but no, i've met a triple-digit number of trans men at various stages of transition (including long term post-transition) and ages of transition, only one passed

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>>8363060
>cara
Don't insult me like that, anon-chan.

It's more about the female bone structure, which is obvious to everyone around you because of how differently it moves compared to a male skeleton, no matter how thin or "androgynous" it is.

Beards also make it much, much worse.

There is no such thing as a fully passing ftm.

>>8363072
>retard
That person is obviously trying to help you, cunt.

>>8363075
Nigga you have a fetish for femboys and you keep trying to push it into FtM. You're a creepy as chaser.

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>>8363088
I am a femboy so I guess that means I chase myself.

>>8363086
yeah, i was insulting them because fiona is so much worse than cara (and i stopped defending cara a long time ago) that it's retarded to mix the two of them up
i wouldn't have insulted them for anything less, well, retarded, but it's just accurate there

>>8363102
How many people has Fiona coaxed towards suicide or tried to trick into not transitioning?

>>8363127
>or tried to trick into not transitioning
trying to trick ftms into not transitioning and femboys into transitioning *is her whole deal*
and she has complete control and awareness of her behaviour, unlike cara

>>8363138
The only person she's convinced is rv-chan. Everyone else dismisses her as a troll.

>>8363138
Zero on suicide so she's better than Cara there.

Is her motive worse than pure spite?

>>8363143
the proportion of the board who dismisses cara and the proportion who dismisses fiona is about equal, so the answer here is to analyze the degree to which their behaviour hurts people
the people who deal with cara (which includes 100% of the people whose stories you're using as examples of her bad behaviour) recognize that she is legally insane, that is, can't distinguish right from wrong, and as a result are unconcerned with any ineffectual attempts she makes at hurting them and attempt to direct her away from potentially effective ones
fiona has genuinely hurt rv-chan pretty bad, which if you've ever met rv-chan...

>>8363157
cara's 'motive' is acute schizophrenia
she believes nicole is reading her thoughts, dedicating her life to preventing her from transitioning, and telepathically transmitting parts of her skull over to make her head bigger
it's too late to get off the ride now, so we (as in the me/commie-chan/rv-chan/artposter/survey anon group) need to figure out where to go from here
whatever fiona's motive is, it's not in that context

>>8359869

I did, but not by much. 20 years of age.

>>8363160
>whatever fiona's motive is
A person who might have good if misguided reasons for their actions is worse than a lunatic who runs around trying to kill people, got it.

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>>8363160
Faking mental illness for attention is fairly common among transtrenders.

>>8363167
Let me put it another way:
Premeditated murder is worse than manslaughter

>>8363098
Oh not really...

You look like a young man. Nothing fem about you.....

Save for FFS and I may change my mind. But I doubt you have the drive and will power to earn that money, judging by the fact that you spend your whole day here, youre probably a neet.

Stop being useless to yourself and make your dream come true

>>8363167
>>8363172 is right here
>>8363168
she freaks out and screams at you that you're trying to steal her thoughts if you imply she has it
she also has the symptoms that people who try to fake it always forget (e.g. she can't leave her bed or eat because of extreme avolition)

>>8363143
this
fiona, for whatever they are, are ultimately an ineffectual presence

>>8363172
What you really mean:
Self-defense is worse than murder out of spite.

>>8361452

Are you the parrot poster again, the kid who asked for help in AGP general, or someone else?

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>>8363174
I've posted my pictures on other boards claiming to be a pre-T ftm and the responses I got were the exact opposite than what people tell me here, such as that I looked like a teenage girl, etc.

I'm androgynous because I get different responses based on whatever I claim to be. People only call me a hon here because they hate me.

>>8363072
>i've met a triple-digit number of trans men at various stages of transition (including long term post-transition) and ages of transition, only one passed

Would you say that's because female puberty starts so early that you have to scream your head off, "I'M A BOOOYYY" no later than 5 years old for your parents to make sure you completely avoid it? Or is it something else?

>tfw started at 25
At least I partially won the genetics lottery and my body isn't as masculinized as it should.

>>8363186
Whoops I thought you were caraposter which is why I got pissy because I thought he was claiming to be a femboy now. (He isn't, he's uggo and male as fuck)

Saw someone mentione you're "Fiona". I saw your pics, and I think you look like girl. You're neotenous as fuck. Which is good.

So ignore the insults. They were directed at the wrong person.

It's funny because at the end of the day, hons will only hate you because you're prettier than them. That's all there is to it

>>8363189
Carmen Carrera started her transition at 25 and is 5'10" yet passes almost flawlessly. Some people are lucky.

>>8363186
>>8363138

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>>8363167
maybe
fiona once told rv-chan that their BDD was caused by the fact that they were falsetrans, and that expressing any sort of femininity and female presentation caused them distress because it was clashing with their "innate maleness".

that was among many other things that they've said to her and she's unfortunately taken to heart.

>>8363237
>they were falsetrans
>it was clashing with their "innate maleness"
If you asked 10 people from /lgbt/ who said these things, who do you think they would name?

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>>8363245
Robin, maybe....? idk....?

anyway, that's something that Fi-Fi said about rv-chan, not me. i don't agree with them.

>>8363251
oh... thought you said "who these apply to"

>>8363251
>bullying robin
:(
>>8363245
the cara/rv-chan dynamic is...troubled, but people familiar with it, especially after the recent controversy that caused cara to reassess her views on the topic, would know that's not something she would say to her

>>8363255
What's your answer now?

>>8363272
>especially after the recent controversy
?

>not something she would say to her
I didn't say "to her".

>>8363280
>?
cara used to bully rv-chan a decent amount, and i eventually put my foot down and banned her from the discord
this was resolved a few days later after we had a lot of conversations about exactly how to handle cara's mental illness, the way it intersects with her relationships, and how vulnerable to conscious or unconscious manipulation rv-chan really is, and she was reinstated with a warning
these issues have now been cleared up, and cara is a lot more chill on the whole topic
>I didn't say "to her".
but anon, that's the most important part
you can't analyze communication in a vacuum

>>8363291
>but anon, that's the most important part
>you can't analyze communication in a vacuum
Got it, being a lunatic running around trying to kill people is fine depending on who they try to kill.

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>>8363237
>>8363251
When have I said anything of that sort asshole? rv-chan posts in all of my threads, typically with some self-deprecating comment and I've been nothing but nice to him, even offering to speak to him one-on-one to try and resolve his issues with me but he refuses to listen every time.

I had no idea he was trans either, he's always implied he's just a femboy with BDD.

Guess this is just you faking your schizophrenia again. Go back to starving yourself to death.

>>8363200
Don't feed its ego. Only nice people deserve compliments.

>tfw I'm too much of a standard hon to get attention on 4chan

>>8363393
too bad ahahahahah

>>8363323
You are truly sociopathic.

>>8359996
Hillbilly is that you?

>>8363157
When did Cara made someone kill themselves?

>>8363393
Send thighs

World is a fuck
I am low standard man

>>8363127
>>8363157

See >>8358808

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>>8365649
oh
well that was boring

>>8363343
Perhaps you're right

>>8359869
He looks like an anus

._.

>>8363138
>and she has complete control and awareness of her behaviour, unlike cara
What do you mean by that?

>>8365317
ew

>>8359869
upgrade your phone you loser

>>8367427
if cara was brought to trial for any of the illegal things she's done, she would get off on the insanity defence
if fiona committed an equivalent crime and was brought to trial, she would be found to be mentally competent and guilty

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>>8367889
Eh, I have type 1 bipolar. It would depend on the crime but unlike cara I don't blame mental illness for shitty behavior.

>>8367893
>>8367889
Insanity defense works in like 1/4th of all cases where it's fielded in court. Four states don't even allow it at all.

People treat it like a golden ticket to an acquittal (little do they know only the psych ward is waiting at the end), but in reality there's still a very high chance you end up in prison regardless if you're legit crazy or not.

>>8367893
yes, but you are capable of fundamentally distinguishing right from wrong, even if you do not necessarily apply it to your behaviour
for instance, if you are told that stalking is wrong, you recognize this as a fundamentally true statement as opposed to being utterly bewildered that the person you're talking to is discussing such incomprehensible ideas
the insanity defence is something *very* specific, and i know enough about 1. the legal context of it and 2. cara to make the statement i made confidently
cara is well past the 'mental illness as an excuse' point and is at the 'doesn't realize she's crazy or that being crazy is a thing that influences people's behaviour at all' point

>>8363158
>which if you've ever met rv-chan...
...you know he deserves it

>>8367893
Jesus christ his body sucks

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>>8367909
Ted Bundy was so fucked in the head that he couldn't be convinced as to why he was being punished and how his horrendous crimes were wrong. He was still imprisoned and executed despite being diagnosed with a severe mental illness.

Mental illness is never an excuse, sorry to burst your bubble. And what happened to your claim that you stopped defending cara?

>>8367946
Jealous whale detected.

could someone enlighten me what this 'caraposter' meme is about?
seriously I'm clueless

>>8367965
>Ted Bundy was so fucked in the head that he couldn't be convinced as to why he was being punished and how his horrendous crimes were wrong. He was still imprisoned and executed despite being diagnosed with a severe mental illness.
kek, if you knew *anything* about bundy or cara...
i almost want to add you to the discord (when commie-chan unbans me) so you can see for yourself the level that cara functions at
>And what happened to your claim that you stopped defending cara?
i am no more defending her in this context than i would be defending someone with down syndrome
actually, that's not a fair comparison -- i've met plenty of people with down syndrome who all had far better grips on reality and understandings of what was going on around them than cara does

>>8367974
Cara poster (op's pic above) is an annoying /lgbt/ regular who usually attaches a picture of the model Cara Delevingne with her shit post rants regarding AGP, "fake trans", and just general bullying anti-social stuff.

>>8367965
>wut is da difference between psychopathy and insanity

Bundy knew what he did was wrong, he just never felt it in his heart. Soaked up all the attention he could afterward until it was time to get in the chair.

The fact that you're defending psychopaths really only proves you are one, though.

>>8368082
>Bundy knew what he did was wrong

Dude.
You don't know that.
Also, "What is Mental Illness?"
Educate yourself.
You sound like a Sunday school teacher

>>8368152
anon, can you recognize that there's a difference between "person who knows intellectually that certain actions are considered wrong but is not concerned about the implications of that and does not experience the empathy that causes others to avoid said actions" and "person who doesn't understand what 'doing something wrong' means or how it applies to this, is floridly psychotic and thinks their actions are the only thing stopping their life from being destroyed, and doesn't know why all these people are yelling at them"?

>>8368175
I'm glad we can all agree that Cara is not fit to live in a society and should be locked up.

>>8367941
What did I do to you? Really, what? I hardly post here. Explain why you're mad?

And Fiona is okay, so I don't see the point in getting mad at her? Nothing was meant intentionally.

>>8363323
Thank you for that.

I'm sorry. And I don't know if I'm trans or not. It's irrelevant

Why the fuck did you retards pay for this cunts HRT?
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>8369262
Because they have hearts, anon.
Hurting others doesn't make her a bad person.

>>8369326
>Hurting others doesn't make her a bad person.
That's pretty much the definition of being bad.
Are you on drugs?

>>8369326
>Hurting others doesn't make her a bad person.
They literally try to intentionally hurt others out of malice.
That is being a bad person.

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>>8367978
Do it. Though you'll probably pussy out and ban me from your little hugbox once I attempt slap some sense into cara.

>>8368082
>The fact that you're defending psychopaths
If you really believe this is what I said then you're an outrageous dumbass. I said the exact opposite. I do not defend the mentally ill for bad behavior regardless if they believe they 'can't help it'.

>>8369340
Why do you want to fight over this stuff so bad?

>>8369336
>>8369339
A young puppy is put in a cage. His owners ignore, neglect and abuse him. When he's hungry, they ignore him. When he's bored and wants to play, they poke him with sticks. When he whines, they tape his muzzle shut.
One day, they stick a finger into the puppy's cage, and he bites them. He should be put down! He's "bad", right?
We are all puppies.

>>8369685
How did the LGBT community ignore, neglect and abuse him?

>>8369685
No, it's not just biting. It's more like the dog attempts to kill someone. That gets the dog put down, so your analogy doesn't work.

>>8369703
Psychological health is hereditary.

>>8369722
That dog must have been abused and neglected even more, then.

>>8369742
>Psychological health is hereditary.
Then your analogy is a lie.

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>>8369765
Psychological health is hereditary, since parental nurturance determines your psychological health, and your psychological health determines how nurturing you will be to your own children.

>>8368485
Don't let people on this board pressure you into being trans if you have doubts. If you really are you'll figure it out yourself.

I don't know you personally but I think your problem is mostly bdd and thinking you're not feminine enough even though you really are, *especially* for someone in their mid 20's. Becoming a tranny and putting up with all the shit they go through in society isn't worth it just because of some resolvable body image issues. Try and overcome your bdd first before making any decisions on transitioning.

t. mtftm who mistook bdd for gender dysphoria

>>8372404
>t. mtftm who mistook bdd for gender dysphoria
How did you mistake them?