Are there any other sissies here? There aren't many places

>What are your thoughts on it, do you see it as a positive or negative part of yourself?
I wish I didn't like it, but I like it. It is a negative part of myself that I think stems from extended social isolation coupled with identity crisis.
>Have you ever acted on it?
Tried butstuff once or twice. I just bought a dildo and some panties today and this will be the most I have acted on it ever.
>What is your gender identity and do you think the fetish is somehow related to it or completely independent from it?
I am a dude, and the only reason I come here is to fantasize and lurk. I think it is independent from it.

>>8226103
why do u see it as a bad thing, does it mess with other aspects of your life?

>>8226128
It makes me feel uncomfortable. I am not attracted to men except for dick, and no woman want a sub buttslut. Also, it can't sustain itself forever. It would be gross to indulge in the fetish at 45, but it's one of the only things that gets me off now.

>>8226155
i feel the same. I also come here to fantasize, am scared of being a garish sissy hon in her mid 60's, and only like men as a way of feeling girly. I also only get off to this.

I think eventually ill just faggot it up and take tit pills though, or maybe i won't. These times are crucial in that if i go past 25 i will likely never do it succesfully. I'm currently 22 and would look reasonable, not pretty or maybe even passable, but i could manage, to put it that way.

>>8226257
I don't want to take pills because then it would affect my daily life even more. I am a normal guy, I just become a mess when I am horny. I wish I could talk it out but that's one thing I don't want to bring up in therapy.

>>8226096
You're literally creepy and gross and make a mockery of gay and trans rights.
You're just perverts and should keep your perversion to yourself.

>>8226294
there is nothing wrong with being a pervert.

your mind just isn't refined enough to free itself from the bounds of judeo-christian religions, and I mean it wether you are a christian or not.

>>8226283
Too much porn, you need to stop looking at it and take a long hard look at your life and think about your long term goals. Ruining your life just so you can get off in the moment, and feel ok about it for a while, maybe a few years, when it still feels like youre living life on the edge. Then you'll get older, the thrill wears off, you still have all the same exact problems, except now you're just some middle aged man in a dress who was addicted to porn when he was younger, who has accomplished a lot less, didn't live up to his potential because he let porn and horniness get the best of him.

Stop looking at porn asap

>>8226310
I'm a catholic.
Independent of that there's a lot wrong with being a pervert when your perversion is harmful to other people.
In this case women. You are massively disrespecting and fetishising women. You have no respect for female sexuality, female expression, female identity.
You merely see women and being female as a "fetish".

You're repulsive.

>>8226294
>creepy and gross, perverted
so people playing in shit holes and
retards going against their biological sex are the higher authority?

>>8226365
You sound like a feminist claiming straight porn is disrespectful to women and that women become mere objects because of how they're treated in pornography.

Unlike you, we --and with that i both include sissies and normal people-- are completely capable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality.

>>8226387
Porn is fucking disrespectful to all people in it, but yes particularly women who are abused.
And the porn normalises that abuse and women are expected to tolerate that from their sexual partners.

You might think you can distinguish fantasy from reality, but the more you indulge the fantasy, the more it becomes viewed as normal and you eventually act out on it.

You have no respect for women if you view femininity as a fetish.
Just fuck off to another board you aren't part of LGT.

>>8226407
kek go back to shock therapy then if you're so opposed to sexual rights

>>8226323
I haven't watched porn in six months. If anything, the fetish is stronger. I am just trying to meditate to purge all sexual thoughts.

>>8226365
All the harm done seems to be because of your attitude towards the fetish rather than the sissy's actions. His fetish actually does no real damage to anyone

>>8226407
The women in porn are consenting adults, thinking that you know what's good for people better then they do is a dangerous and authotarian way to think. Sort your shit out

>>8226530
It does harm by perpetuating the idea that women are merely a sexual object.
It does damage because he's a man who will never try and have compassion for the female struggle and try to work towards equality.
That is why it's damaging

>>8226540
The sweat shop workers in India are consenting adults too. Should we just ignore them.
You've summed up the problem with the attitudes of you fetishists.
You think a woman wants to be raped, beaten, spat on, double penetrated? You think that's what she wants or do you think she has no other options.
She's probably on drugs and has had a bad childhood.
Those poor girls need help, not to be exploited by perverts for the enjoyment of other perverts.
I saw a clip where a man farted in a girls mouth and they laughed about it and chased her through the house they were filming it.
It's absolutely vile.

>>8226096
>populated by old men
Im not even a sissy but these failed daddy types are everywhere and i dryheave every time one hits me up

People watch sissy porn for different reasons.
Some closeted transwomen watch it because it helps them deal with their gender dysphoria and fantasize about being "made" to transition without having to deal with social ramifications or acknowledging it.
Some fetishists watch it to get off or because it fulfills fantasies of sexual humiliation or is a genuine ingrained kink. Some masculine men enjoy the fantasy of sissification because it's an escape from their male responsibilities. Not an issue if they can separate their sexual fantasies and/or kinks from the rest of their lives and identities.
Some people watch it because they have feelings of male inadequacies and fetishize these rather than deal with them. This can be harmful and destructive if they condition themselves to fetishize something that makes them feel more inadequate instead of dealing with what makes them feel inadequate.
Some people watch it because they are attracted to feminine men/sissies and like to pretend that they're the ones turning a "victim" into a sissy. I like feminine men and sissies so I like to watch porn featuring sissification.
Some people watch it because they're porn addicts and it's become a drug.
If you're actually transitioning and happier as female, it's likely that sissification porn/stories were just a coping method when you were dealing your dysphoria and coming to terms with your gender identity. If it still turns you on now, more power to you. It's possible to transgender and be kinky.

>>8226283

Man I can relate to that. Sometimes I feel like going into a gay bar and sucking some random guy's dick just to figure out if I'm gay or not.

But as soon as I cum, all that goes out the window and I feel genuinely disgusted.

It doesn't help that I find the feel of male muscle tone repulsive (sexually) and the behaviour completely unattractive, which contrasts strongly with how I feel about the female equivalents.

But god damn, if I'm super horny or on drugs, I feel like a fucking slut. I'd fuck everyone in the room and let them fuck me.

So, mental illness or is it just stuff that happens in your life?

>>8226744
quality post, thanks.

>>8226407
>LGT

>>8226365
>Catholic
What kikery is this?

>>8226763
>super horny or on drugs
>on drugs

found the problem

>>8226918
Do you really think calling a catholic a Jew is offensive?
Jesus was a Jew.
Idiot.

>>8226744
I'm probably all of these

>>8226744
Dog-tier post well done.

>>8227426
You don't have to be a kike to play into Jewish tricks. Your prophet was a kike on a stick, and your hook nose'd masters ride you like a rented mule. But you love it, clearly.

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>>8228494
>12 year old detected

wew laddy
careful not to cut yourself on that sharp edge!

>>8228522
I'm an edgy child for pointing out Jews are a slimey people? OK.

>>8228552
desu yes you and her deserve one another

>>8226096
This is AGP >>8206029

>>8228494
Jesus is God not a prophet. But carry on blaspheming.
I suggest you stop it unless you actually want to go to hell.

>>8228528
Not really?

>>8226588
>The sweatshop workers in india are concenting adults too

Yes and Industry in 3rd world coutries gives them a road out of abject poverty and a way to feed their families. Would you prefer they have no jobs and starve to death?

>>8228570
Hell doesn't exist. Neither does magic. Nor god. Sorry if you don't like that but it's just the way things are.

>>8228565
Pls no, don't put that evil on me.

>>8228570
Jesus was the son of God, and also God made mortal flesh. He's recognized as the prophet of God by all Christian denominations, while also being God in a super meta sense.

>Unless you actually want to go to hell
You mean that fairytale masochistic wet dream? I've got some weird fetishes but I don't go telling everyone, jeeze.

>>8228569
not AGP agp doesnt involve humiliation

>>8228600
ah yes because we all know the entire 3rd world was starving to death before western garment factories moved in and employed them and we also know that the vast majority of the wealth produced in these factories stays in the 3rd world and is not exported to the western world

>>8226588
>>8226540
>>8228600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPF9_1VIso
id check this or other stuff about free will by sam harris

tldr free will does not exist

>>8228693
Why don't you actually look up what industry does for 3rd world communities rather than guessing and being a condescending white person who thinks they can tell coloreds what's best for them. Most of those people were on subsistence farming before factory jobs were an option. The increase of the population's wealth may be small conpared to the total value of the venture but it's more than 100 times what they had before. Farmers can start saving up for machines to improve yeild. The whole of the community opens itself to a wider cultural universe wherein they can begin to take part in commerce. Over time the area develops in much the same manner that the united states did at the beginning of the 20th century. That's why it's called the developing world. But you'd be much happier to have them be substance farmers forever I suppose.

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>>8226588
>kinkshaming

For shame you bigot, people can't help what they are attracted to, you shouldn't judge people for being "bad" when you're on /lgbt/ which would imply you are LGBT, which means at least 1 billion people on the planet think you deserve death for existing (Islam)

>>8228644
>agp doesnt involve humiliation

>>8228760
If you mean ethnically then modern jews are a mix of people from all over the world. There is no such thing as a clear Jewish ethnicity. If you mean religiously.. he was a jew.

>>8226096
sissies need to stay out of lgbt spaces.

>>8228784
You're really bothered by that term? What would you prefer? "Places which are designated specifically for LGBTs and almost exclusively inhabited by them"?

>>8228775
If you truly believe that he is the son of God then it was not heresy because God created judaism and much of Jesus's flock was jewish. Some jews who lived then rejected it, as did their descendants. Most of the early Christians were themselves jewish before becoming christian.

>>8228779
>sissies
>not trans

>>8226096
>What are your thoughts on it,
It's AGP, plain and simple. If more autogynephiles were aware of the term we could make a much more earnest effort toward answering our own inquiries about it.
>do you see it as a positive or negative part of yourself?
I dunno, it allows me to still have a somewhat fulfilling sex life as a failure of a man. Tends to be addictive and has a lot of associated destructive behaviors, but men who turn to sissification usually are emotional lost causes and will engage in destructive behaviors either way.
>Have you ever acted on it?
Of course. Have been buying ridiculous amounts of girl clothes and slutting it up on cam for horny guys. My youth is waning so I'm really going ham lately.
>What is your gender identity and do you think the fetish is somehow related to it or completely independent from it?
I think and behave androgynously- in particular things like charisma and risk-taking were necessary masculine traits that I never developed. This goes hand-in-hand with my physique, which is very androgynous.

Dressing like a girl plays into my strong sexual fixation on being dainty and constrained. Thanks to the internet I can gain some validation of my softness and submissiveness from guys who appreciate those features.

Having your mediocrity appreciated and getting emotional validation by just existing is intoxicating. I understand why women make the most of it.

>>8228779
according to reddit sissy is transgender because it doesnt conform to gender norms

>>8228803
I don't understand. You're saying having places where specific groups of people can hang out and talk (generally about things concerning their demographic as a whole) is wrong? I mean, I guess we could go to /pol/ or something.

>>8228808
They were believers in God, who have acted exactly as he has commanded. God has given them a new code, and a savior, and they accepted them. In that sense Judaism is just the stage before Christianity, since Jesus specifically said he did not come to overturn any of the old laws but to add to them. As far as those jews were concerned they were still jews. That mankind has made an arbitrary divide does not mean much.

The jews who did not follow Christ called the whole thing a heresy, but that they went their own way doesn't impact the rest.

>>8226744
>Some masculine men enjoy the fantasy of sissification because it's an escape from their male responsibilities.
>Some people watch it because they have feelings of male inadequacies and fetishize these rather than deal with them.
Omega AGPs.

>>8228870
>Judaism doesn't believe in God becoming a man and it doesn't believe in Jesus being God.
Judaism up to that point didn't because it hasn't happened yet, and once it did all of the jews who followed jesus by definition believed it had happened. It was just a natural continuation of their dedication to God.

>>8226096
First off don't worry. you are having a perfectly natural reaction. Over the last 16 years we have pushed to change society and thus changed the way we think. It's very normal for you to feel this way. Some people will go as far as to say it's a power struggle between the male and female characteristics that help shape our outlook of thinking but that's not really the case in my opinion. I foresee a future where there is no male or female roles. Only human roles. Infact we have already begun this process. Males are developing more feminine features not only physically but mentally while females are becoming more strong willed and independent. I am a male and I think that some guys could get pretty bruised egos if you where to tell them this. If the future does look like this then there may only be very subtle differences between te male and female physic in the future. So it all comes down to which role you would rather be in.

>>8228736
are you trying to fucking white guilt me on 4chan nigger? kys

advancements in technology/production =/= increase in quality of life

look at the neolithic revolution, people went from hunter gatherers who had plenty of free time to do whatever to farmers who had to work the fields nearly every day for long hours. Yes the quality of life for those at the top increased dramatically but the vast majority of people traded free time for hard labour. I want to be clear this isnt an argument against agriculture or anything, I am simply stating the facts of the matter. It is entirely possible to harness new technologies for everyones benefit, this is not what is happening in the 3rd world sweat shops. Maybe the manager of a factory gets a nice house and a tv but the other 99.99% in those areas see no increase in QoL

>>8226365
>complaining about perversions
>on 4chan
>AND IS CATHOLIC

this is bait, children

>>8228976

>>8226155
Meh I get off to this when my girlfriend is not in the mood. I really don't think it's a big deal.

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>>8228994

>>8228994
You'd rather have no benifits than marginal ones is my point. You're saying that just because progress doesn't come all at once it shouldn't come at all. Everything takes time to develop.

>>8229036
that is exactly not what I am saying

I am saying we as humans have the ability to concentrate wealth/power/etc or to distribute it however the fuck we want to

there is no 'natural accumulation' or some magical pattern where capitalists need to earn 80% of the profits, we can decide to distribute it however we want. Right now neoliberalism is choosing to distribute the vast majority of wealth to the .1% who control financial institutions, run large multinationals, etc. This isnt 'natural' this isnt an 'inevitable part of progress' its a choice we as a species have made that I disagree with. Those in the 3rd world are given the false choice of shit and fuck all so they take the shit. Those arent the only 2 options.

>>8228994
What's your solution then? Nobody can make business deals without your approval?

>>8229105
>distribute

The owners of enterprise have the exclusive right to distribute the proceeds thereof however they see fit. Wealth isn't distributed. It's created. Industry creates wealth. Members make deals as to who has rights to how much of the profit. In the case of employees they agree to be paid a fixed amount before hand for their labor. They sell it to the owner of capital and together they pool their resources (man power and capital) to produce wealth. Being paid before hand for a predetermined ammount the laborer has no rights to the proceeds of the venture unless previously negotiated. The owner of capital assumes the risk if the venture is unsuccessful for a greater reward at the end. Society doesn't choose how the profit is distributed because society doesn't create the profit and society doesn't assume the risk.

>>8229105
You seem to have no idea how capital and wealth are produced and distributed. No distribution happens. Capitalists aren't GIVEN millions in profits. They made something that was worth money by making a bunch of deals with a bunch of people and then sold that thing. Society didn't distribute a goddamn thing. They worked for it or at the very least risked their assets on a series of deals to produce something of value to other people.

>>8229105
"Humans" is not a monolithic entity. People don't make collective choices and they aren't chosing to distribute wealth in any real way. You cant tell folks what they can and can't do with their time money and energy, and you cant get mad when some folks get a raw deal or other folks have way more than others or you're gonna be mad forever.

>>8229036
what? no...

>>8229145
>The owners of enterprise have the exclusive right to distribute the proceeds thereof however they see fit.
thats how it currently works but thats not how it must work. Workers cooperatives exist.
>In the case of employees they agree to be paid
but they are not on equal bargaining terms, those with money and power will always use it to obtain more money and power. Its not an agreement in the same way two merchants of equal size trading goods is a fair trade or something.
>Being paid before hand for a predetermined ammount the laborer has no rights to the proceeds of the venture unless previously negotiated.
again this is how it is not how it must be, I am not arguing about the nature of our current system, I am advocating for a more egalitarian one
>The owner of capital assumes the risk if the venture is unsuccessful
tell that to unemployed coal miners and factory workers

>>8229161
you accurately described our current system. luckily our current system isnt the only possible feasible system of human organization

>>8229227
I understand your sentiment but you aren't the first person to think this and you won't be the last. Study the economic history of the 20th century and you'll find the answers to why these are bad ideas and why the world ended up the way that it is now.

>>8229215
>You cant tell folks what they can and can't do with their time money and energy,
so the next time my boss tells me to come into work at 9am I should tell him to fuck himself?
or when the IRS comes to collect should I tell them to fuck themselves?

>you cant get mad when some folks get a raw deal or other folks have way more than others or you're gonna be mad forever.
im not mad im observing inequalities and proposing ways to reform them, this is the business of being a social animal. Like it or not most humans feel empathy and want whats best for their fellow man

>>8229243
Fatal conciet, kid.

You don't know what's best for your fellow man.

>>8229240
i never claimed to be the first or last, in fact I think this is a project that will continue for as long as humans exist, we will always be trying to improve. Dismissing my ideas because an authotarian russian regime killed millions of people is silly, hitler did some good things and some very bad things, we shouldnt let the holocaust invalidate national highways, affordable automobiles or pencil mustaches. We shouldnt let stalin invalidate any ideas that arent neoliberalism.

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/lgbt/ - Economics

Wasn't this thread originally about sissy buttsluts?

>>8229268
Socialism is flawed at its core because it's based on the false premise that everyone is equally competent and that planning for everyone is adequately possible. But that's a much larger argument than I'm willing to have right now.

>>8229265
And the CEOs and wall street bankers do?

again I refer you to sam harris' discussion of free will. You are not free to do as you please and you do not know always know what is best for you. People do heroin I dont know a more clear cut piece of evidence. Does that mean that the government should be always telling you what to do, how to think, etc? No of course not, no one is arguing for that (perhaps some antifas or something but honestly have you seen one that looks like they have an IQ over 100?). Our current system has plenty of laws and restrictions and yet we still think of it as free and open...

>>8229293
everything is flawed at its core, thats life... its complex and difficult
we just have to keep improving

i do not think everyone is equally competent or that we should be planning for everyone, never have i even hinted at that

>>8229283
...my bad.

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>tfw you don't want this fetish

help

>>8228711
Fascinating. Thanks for posting.

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>>8229315
Sure love listening to 70+ year old propaganda about Russia, originating from a socialist dystopia that managed to be even worse for LGBT people than Russia

>>>/pol/
>>>/b/
>>>/trash/

>>8226155
You would be surprised that they might be willing to mess around with butt stuff

I'm ftm and a sissy. It's a bit unusual, but I don't think it's a bad thing. I guess I'm a boy on the outside but still a girl in the bedroom. My boyfriend enjoys it too, so everyone wins.

>>8231447
Lots of AAPs are uke.

>>8226588
>The sweat shop workers in India are consenting adults too
People have agency anon.

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>>8226155
>and no woman want a sub buttslut

Then how can I exist?

>>8229810
glad to spread the word, its been my addiction recently

>>8226766
>>8228472
Its from reddit/r/TGandsissyrecovery lol

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>tfw a 'crossdresser' but not a sissy

does anyone feel like this? the sissy thing is hot but at the end of the day I just like lingerie and make up and shit, it's everyone else who makes it a 'female' thing

>>8228600
The point is they don't have any other choice just like female performers in porn.
No one wants to be a sweat shop worker or abused in a porn film.
But due to a lack of opportunities they end up doing it.

>>8228609
God exists.
Hell exists.
But as I said you can continue to blaspheme or follow God. It's up to you. Free will.

>>8228633
God has three forms, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are one God. Jesus called God Abba when he spoke about him which is why we call Jesus the son and God the Father.
Jesus was NOT a prophet, that is blasphemous and untrue.

>>8228711
Free will does exist. I've read the bible I don't need to watch some weirdo on YouTube.

>>8228746
That "kink" is sexist and therefore oppressive to women and therefore harmful to society.
Some Muslims attitudes to gay people are based on their misconception of homosexuality and their cultural prejudices, not because homosexuality is harmful to society.
Or even because their Holy book which is false dictates they be homophobic.

>>8228760
Jesus was Jewish what are you talking about?

>>8233090
So..You're saying...Jesus wasn't even his final form?

>>8226932
You have a point.

I did figure out that they're not okay and kinda stopped, but I always had this curiosity. It just gets unhinged even when I drink.

>>8233090
>No one wants to be abused in a porn film. But due to a lack of opportunities they end up doing it.

Really? Is it really so hard to consider that maybe some people don't mind being sexualized? That some people are just incredibly fickle and do porn just because they can? That some people don't think sex is a big deal, so they don't have a problem getting paid for it? That maybe some people, god forbid, enjoy sex, and want to get paid for it?

There are lots of reasons a person can do porn, but a "lack of opportunity" is only one of them.

>>8233141
There is no final form of God.
God has always been and always will.
Jesus was God as God and human who came to us to teach us how to live gracious lives and to take on the burden of human sin when he died for us on the cross.
To allow us to experience eternal life.

The Nicene Creed explains the fundamentals of Christianity;

I believe in ONE God
The Father almighty
Maker of heaven and earth
I believe in ONE Lord
Jesus Christ
The Only begotten son of God
Born of the Father before all ages
GOD FROM GOD
Light from light
TRUE GOD FROM TRUE GOD
BEGOTTEN NOT MADE
CONSUBSTANTIAL WITH THE FATHER
Through Him all things were made
FOR US MEN and FOR OUR SALVATION
HE CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN
And BY THE HOLY SPIRIT
Was INCARNATE OF THE VIRGIN MARY
AND BECAME MAN
FOR OUR SAKE HE WAS CRUCIFIED UNDER PONTIUS PILATE
He suffered death and was buried
And ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY
HE ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN
AND IS SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER
HE WILL COME AGAIN IN GLORY TO JUDGE THE LaiVING AND THE DEAD
AND HIS KINGDOM WILL HAVE NO END

I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT
THE LORD
THE GIVER OF LIFE
WHO PROCEEDS FROM THE FATHER AND THE SON
Who WITH the Father and the Son is adored and glorified
Who has spoken through the prophets
I believe in ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH
I Confess ONE BAPTISM for the forgiveness of sins
And I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
And the life of the world to come
Amen

Sorry I thought I'd put the parts that relate to this discussion in capitals... but most of it did lol

>>8233175
No. You can't. Especially modern porn which is basically rape and abuse on film.
I know people enjoy sex but no one enjoys being abused on camera. NO ONE.
There is obviously something wrong with them that has allowed them to normalise the abuse the abuse they are suffering and to accept it.

This is why you "sissies" are not a part of LGBT.
You are heterosexual CIS men with a disturbing fetish.
You are engrossed in your own CIS male heterosexual privilege and have never had to experience the oppression and abuse that women and minorities have to experience and the hands of the patriarchy.
Again I suggest you "sissies" leave as you do not belong here.

Go to /b/

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>>8233216
>muh skydaddy!

kys

>>8233236
>Especially modern porn which is basically rape and abuse on film.
>You are heterosexual CIS men with a disturbing fetish.
Go home rapee chan you're drunk.