Is transgenderism basically just the result of incorporeal female

>>8176511
I wish it was that simple. I would just let her have my body if she would stop making me feel like shit.

>>8176511
I'm assuming ftms are vice versa?
Wouldn't a male spirit be smart enough to just pick a male to start with?

>>8176784
FTMs are just yaoifags or butch lesbians.

>>8176784
FTM isn't real

Spirit, if you're listening, I'll let you take control if you just make our body that of a woman. I don't mind if you're driving. Please let me watch though.

>>8176874
This

>>8176874
The point isn't to give you a female body. The point is to make you fucking insane.

>>8176898
Well wouldn't she rather have a body to control? She could literally live my life anyway she wants. I would let her take control.

>>8176898
>>8176901
Yeah I'm with that Anon. Spirit, don't you want to, like, chill? We can go shopping together. Take walks. Find love.

>>8176901
>I would let her take control.
That's what transition is.

>>8176918
Then why does she still make me feel bad?

>>8176924
That's the entire point, you're cursed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Castina

>>8176918
Transition can't de-hon you if you're too old though. Why can't she make me pretty? Is she a weak spirit? Does she need to go to college? Spirit, I'll wait if you need to practice but I really do want to pass.

>>8176935
How old is too old though

>>8176931
Oh no. Is the spirit cursed too? Is she stuck with me, trapped with a male body? How awful.
Spirit, listen, I know your pain. We can make this work. We really need to talk though. I'm not much good at transforming myself and could use your help.

>>8176944
The spirit is evil and is trying to make you suffer.

>>8176935
>Why can't she make me pretty?
Her only power is in you. It doesn't reach to your body.

>tfw trans
>tfw pass
>tfw basically no more dysphoria
>tfw the happiest I've ever been with myself

Was the demonic possession a success?

>>8176946
That seems unlikely. I mean, she's stuck with this body too, you know? And no woman wants to be stuck in a man's body. I think she's just trying to make herself comfortable. I wonder if she feels guilty sometimes but I mean, I get it. Your body is a prison. If this is a curse then she was sent here by something or someone else against her will.
Listen, spirit, if we work together we'll get much further. We could even timeshare the body if you want to make things more fair. I promise to behave in a respectable fashion when I'm driving. We could wear a hair accessory to signify who we are to our friends at any given time.

>>8176952
Yes. You've given her the sacrifices she wanted and she's at peace now to fade into you and dissipate.

>>8176511
Tfw the spirit waited until you were 19 to possess you. Why spirit why

>>8176952
>lies
Nice try demon.

>>8176511
APPARENTLY

So what is her name, anons?

Captcha: SICILIA MONOHON

>>8176971

I should've taken the body of a hulkified male and not a tiny fragile fem one....I'm a disgrace among demonkind, they'll never suffer this way! I'm gonna be made fun of when I go back to Hell, fuck...

>>8176944
>We really need to talk though.
She can't talk. She can only share her needs.

>>8176951
Can she at least teach me how to transform into a woman?

>>8177000
She doesn't know how, anon. She just knows it needs to happen. The how is your job.

>>8177012
Well uh I feel bad for her because in that case she's screwed.

>>8177023
That's why this is her penance.

>>8177034
>tfw your body is literally a prison but for someone else

>>8177038
>someone else
If you can call her that...

>>8176901
No the spirit hates men and she wont rest till they are all dead or insane.
t. host that agreed to help her in this crucade.

>>8177064
I think the spirit's just tsundere for men. You should introduce her to The Dick. Find some cute boy.

>>8176511
Well according to Alex Jones this is actually what the illuminati believe, that they are being possessed by transdimensional beings.

Wait....
>transdimensional
>trans

SHUT IT DOWN

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I've discussed this with my therapist, and I've gotten clarity.

My case of transgenderism is not a typical. It seems to have sprouted from dissociative tendencies, rather than been a separate issue. I was a boy. I had a perfect and abusive version of myself in my head who I wanted to be like. He became a monster and I became him. A new persona appeared: a gentle female. The monster tried to beat her to death, but she kept coming back. The monster eventually resigned and left, leaving the shared life and body in the hands of the female. But soon another persona entered. A stern and harsh female, who the gentle one wanted to be like.

I don't have DID. However, I have a habit of "splitting," and it is a response to my life's stresses and the necessaries of my circumstances. At one point, a monster was necessary, but then room was needed to express repressed personalities and needs. Then, an agent was needed. Separating these personality traits allows me to do what needs to be done, feel what needs to be felt, and above all, protect myself.

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>>8178586
My therapist has described my sides as

Monster
The first. He is an angry, nihilistic, bloodthirsty being. However, he is mostly resigned, retired, opting to leave most people alone. He has stepped aside to allow the others a turn at the wheel. Sometimes he returns out of necessity or for reminiscence. He feels some resent over having been hijacked.

Mother
Currently the primary personality. She is an honest girl who does her best to fight and achieve a peaceful picture of paradise, solace, and family. She feels more fear and sadness. Mother and Assassin are personalities who have inherited this life. They have childhood memories, but they do not register as theirs, yet they play along as if they were.

Assassin
She is an agent who suppresses all emotion and is extremely productive and focused. Mother aspires to be like her. Sometimes her traits show through Mother, and sometimes she takes over

Boy
A child asleep in the back seat.

I know this sounds snowflakey, but this is what I have to say, and this understanding of myself works for me. I'm a person who has been usurped and hijacked by emerging female personalities who have taken hormones to change us. These are just sock puppets with my own hands in them, but I wish I could truly have DID so that none of us would have to admit we were the same person.

>>8176843
>>8176796
I wish, being ftm sucks

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>>8178595

I hope they lock you up soon.
You sound horrifying.

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>>8178595
It's not so snowflakey. I know how you feel.

>>8178595
>tfw ywn have your sides described and explained as different personalities

>>8178595
>the male is the evil one
>the female is the good one
About as realistic as Spider Man, into the trash it goes.

>>8178738
poorfag detected

>>8176511
It has different causes. Sometimes it's because they are raped by a family member. Other times it's because of reincarnation, they used to be women in their previous lifes and now they reincarneted with a male body. It can also be because of reptilians experiments on humans.

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>>8178809

>>8178777
>poorfag
>miserfag
>socialised health care country fag
take your pick

>>8178809
Reincarnation isn't really real. Female demonic spirits aren't spiritual remnants of dead women, they were incorporeal to begin with.

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>>8178830
My mother died when I was 11. Sometimes I like to think that a piece of her got embedded in my heart like shrapnel and made me trans. Truth is, I had a need that wasn't fulfilled and became my own mother...

>>8178841
>trannies are just dudes LARPing as their moms

>>8178830
That's where you're wrong, anon. Through rather deep meditation and self discovery I am fairly positive I have been a man/male soul for countless ages, and am just now in this life experiencing the birth of a new soul, a weak and young soul that needs nurturing and protecting. It is my final duty to guide her towards independence as I pass into the void and eventually become her. Right now I feel the weight of my eternity of existence calling me towards oblivion, but I know that I must finish this life first, and that in time I will experience anew the joy and wonder of being a new soul. It's a very conflicting feeling.

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>>8178849
Took you a while. Now you know our secret. Best not tell anyone.

>>8178867
I already know you're an obese female with some funky colored hair.

>>8178873
I'm mtf with fairly plain brown hair and a bmi of 19

>>8178841
Do you really think there's a connection?

>>8176511
I wish she would just take over completely and live my life for me the way she wants.

>>8178913
Who can say? But yes, this is the narrative I roll with: my case of transgenderism is a response to various traumas in my life. Whatever transgender tendencies I may have had as a child, whether influenced or genetic, were just opportunities to be harnessed by my dissociative parts.

>>8178968
Sorry anon, but that's not how it works, not in this life at least. You have to guide her. Eventually she will take over more and more, but it's not something that just happens and you know it like a light switch being flipped, it's your will to live coming back, and your confidence in yourself slowly emerging. You'll never quite finish the struggle in this life to feel comfortable with yourself, but you'll open the door for her to in the next one, and earn your eternal rest.

Just... Don't kill yourself. Trust me. It'll only make things worse.

>>8178830
>Reincarnation isn't really real
Wrong, it's real. I've memories of some of my past lives

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>>8179025
Shirley you must be joking

>>8178993
What trans tendencies did you have?

There was another anon who posted a theory like this about herself a while ago, unless you are her.

>>8179025
It's called being mentally ill.

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>>8179039
As a child, I played with my sister a lot. She dressed me up in dresses. I liked it, but I quickly learned my role as a boy and was ashamed. Still, I always wondered about life as the other form and wished I could have a flat groin with no genitalia so I could wear tights. As a boy, I I loved wearing long white socks; there were other reasons, but part of it may have been that they were the closest thing to wearing stockings. I was a very aggressive boy, but in hindsight, I was aggressive, but not typically masculine. I did not care for sports or anything else the other boys liked; I was just a tryhard and violent because of my father.

Still, I fully expected to grow up to be a man and was fine with it. I didn't embrace the identity of maleness, I just wanted to be the best man I could be, a cold and efficient person.

My curiousity about life as a female persisted through my teens, and I further empathized and tried to understand what life would be like as a woman; it seemed strategically disadvantaged, yet more beautiful.

I would later create a character of my ideal girlfriend, but that ended up just being a female me, and I knew what I would wear and be like if I was female.

When I ran away from home at age 18-19, I was given room to think more about these things, and the Mother voice emerged. Thus began my awareness of my dysphoria. On an unrelated and ironic note, the male monster persona feels a bit of dysphoria over being feminine.

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>>8179105
I kinda glossed over the small things.
I made female characters in games, etc.
My mother and assassin identities were actually first visualized in a game.

>>8177000
Estradiol, spirolactone, and some female socialization should do the trick

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>>8179116
>Look at me! I've got Multiple Personalities!!

No you don't.
You're just a manipulative actor who is seeking attention.
I doubt you even have a therapist.

>>8179166
I was afraid of and expected such responses. I know... it sounds stupid. But I have no need to convince you.

>>8179040
i'm not trans or gay

>>8179186
You have memories of something that never happened so you're just as batshit as a tranny.

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>>8179190
But it did happens, i have memories of places i never went and when i went to these places for real it perfectly matched these memories.

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>>8179224
Dreams can create memories.
When I was 11 I dreamed that I had inherited $1,000 from my Grandmother.
My parents spent several months trying to convince me that Grandma was still alive and that, unfortunately, I had not inherited anything.
It wasn't until we visited her and I saw her face to face and she told me that she didn't even have a will yet that I finally recognized it was a dream.

>>8176511
i used to be plagued by night terrors and sleep paralysis hallucinations of a screaming void faced shadow woman in my bed, but it went away when i started transition. she had a voice that was a howl of white noise so loud and painful it made me black out.

that my friends is the next step on from dysphoria. panic attacks? pfff. crying in the shower in the dark? small time. self mutilating your own genitals? bitch please. you need your dysphoria to manifest as a entity of pure ruinous darkness. step the fuck up y'all agp fuckbois

>>8179105
What were the other reasons you liked long white socks? What was your non-masculine aggression? How did you learn you were supposed to be ashamed for liking wearing dresses?

How did you realize your ideal girlfriend character was a female you?

>On an unrelated and ironic note, the male monster persona feels a bit of dysphoria over being feminine.
That's bizarre and kind of amusing. What's it like having that kind of dysphoria too?

>>8179116
How did you recognize that those characters were identities of yours?

>>8179271
I liked long socks because I thought that's how socks should be properly worn. After all, they were pulled up, weren't they? Not meant to be sagging down. I liked uniformity, being a good boy. I hated gangsters and punks. They also covered my legs while I wore shorts, so I could be as mobile as ever with full coverage.

I didn't like sports. I didn't like being dirty boys and super muscled men. But whatever I did, I did it with full effort and attempt to dominate. When I played soccer, I ran as fast as I could and kicked as hard as I could always. I was known as a dangerous kung fu kid who fought with fury. I got upset easily. I accidentally broke a girl's arm. My friends and I played tag where I was always it, since they loved running from my ferocity. In high school, I had a similar effect. I wasn't a manly man, but I was regarded as masculine for how angry, aggressive, and scary I was.

My parents told me, and neighbors laughed at me. I learned that I was a boy and that boys dress differently.

I tried to deny the embarrassing truth that the girlfriend was just female me, but as I assigned more and more traits to her, it became too obvious. I had seen her in dreams too.

There are different parts of me. They all feel different things. But as a whole, we all feel everything. So while the Mother persona feels dysphoria over being masculine, the Monster persona feels dysphoria over being feminine, and the Whole feels everything. I feel so stupid!
Ugh, the word "I" gets confusing.

I wrote a character. This character spawned from traits of my own. Then I realized that. And the persona formed in my own head. Then another. Then another. The traits and personas formed out of necessity to circumstances and stresses, but they gained awareness after I realized a character I had written was just a projection of another piece of me.

All of this is so fucking ridiculous! It's just like >>8179166 said, but I can't help but feel this way, or want to feel this way!

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If something happens to me, I can pretend it's happening to some extension of myself. I can view it in third person and handle the situation objectively. I can be a soft and gentle person when needed to leave good impressions or be nice to children or express my fears and sadness. I can be an agent when work needs to be done or overwhelming stress occurs, or if I need to feel safer by cutting off all emotional investments. I can be a monster when I need to really dissociate and feel as if I'm just some mobile suit flesh who needs to get some really uncomfortable things done or when I need to express rage and bloodthirst. And we hate any merging of these personalities. I don't have DID. I wish I did. So that we'd never have to admit we're the same person and so that we can compartmentalize our emotions and distribute our pain and take our personality traits to extremes. We don't all like each other, but we work together since we share the same body and life.

Shit. Thinking about all this is making me exceedingly uncomfortable. I need to go and do some work and re-immerse myself in a character.

>>8179354
Neat, that's a non-trans related reason for liking the socks as well your trans reason. But shorter socks could still be pulled up and not sag? What about lose pants instead of shorts?

How did you accidentally break the girl's arm?

Which traits made it obvious the character was the female you?

Why do you like feeling that way?

>>8179532
>accidentally

She was annoying me so I pushed her down the stairs since I wasn't a manly man, but I was regarded as masculine for how angry, aggressive and scary I was.

It wasn't me it was the Monster persona so I can't be held responsible as my dysphoria and the Mother persona feels feminine while the Whole feels everything and it gets confusing so just notice me and help me feel special. I feel so confused and alone!

I'm just different and special that's all.

Notice me and pay attention to me, as I'm not making all this up because I'm lonely, I'm just really interesting and I love to talk about myself in the third person as if I were the Queen of England or Lady Di.

But I would never kill myself. The Mother persona will take care of that embarrassing truth for me when the time comes!

Notice me! I can't help but feel this way, or want to feel this way!

>>8176511
no, just AGPs

>>8179726
what's HSTS then?

>>8176796
MTF are just femme faggots who want more holes for cock

>>8179750
an abbreviation for Post Op Drag Queen ie. Homo Sexual Trans Sexual

>>8179784
Actually, most MTFs are transbians

>>8176796
>>8179784
Both correct

>>8179262
>step the fuck up y'all agp fuckbois
but the shower crying is classic hsts

Maybe...
One tried to rape me, before that I was just a gay dude :c

>>8180911
EXPLAIN

>>8180984
I finished a vipassana meditation course and I dunno if it was just because of no sexual for ten days or what but it started like regular sleep paralysis only without the loud noise and there was this female moaning and it felt like something was riding me, like I was inside it. I just mentally screamed at it to go away and it all dissipated...