/tgg/ Trans Girl General

whoops, forgot previous thread
>>8015917

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Second for finally finished Hourou Musuko, and it hurt far more than I expected.

I'm 26, 5' 7" and 210 pounds, with a general boxy/barrel shape, big gut.
I'm hitting the gym to lose weight. Will I ever be able to pass? I haven't started on HRT yet.
Anyone around had similar starting stats?

>>8125715

Depends how much effort you intend to put into it unless you're like super unfortunate looking. I have a pretty big chest too but I figured I may as well try and see if I can do it, and if not I can kill myself with no regrets.

>>8125816
I mean, the only thing holding me back from transitioning (my gf) is about to dump me for being trans (even though I didn't transition yet), so I might as well try it. I just wanna know what to expect beforehand, as not to get dissapointed.

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>come across old medical records
>realize I was already 6' at age 15
At least I now know I was pretty much guaranteed to never be small and cute.

>>8126886
I used to worry about the same, but I remembered we had our heights marked on one of the kitchen walls. I'd have needed to stop growing at 13 to be in female range.

>>8125374
iktf

Spoilers: watching her go through the wrong puberty was gut-wrenching. Was seriously hoping for her to get on mones before she masculinized too far. Why didn't the older trans woman fucking help her get HRT?

My face is 21.5 centimeters long

I'm fucked, right?

>>8127363
Do you know the average female face length? I think thats pretty obscure for most pople to know off the top of their head to give a good answer. And hi nim!

>>8127399
Seems like it's like 6-7 inches and I'm like 8.5 inches

It seems like I have a big head even for males

>>8127413
Well thats unfortunate, perhaps someday if you have a big chin you could get that reduced a bit which might help. It won't take inches off but it can look drastic if you have enough bone there

>>8127430
Maybe like half an inch at most

I think it's just kinda fucked for me

>>8127441
Don't forget that your head size is proportional to height. Be sure to scale it accordingly.

For example, if the average woman were 5'4" and had a face length of 7", and you were the male average of 5'10", the length to be proportional to that woman would be 7.7". With half an inch shaved off, and you'd get within an inch of that. Literally nobody is going to notice that.

If you were 6'2", that length would be 8.1". Even better.

I know /lgbt/ may not be the best place to ask this but I'll bite, does anyone have experience on going girl mode without training their voice? I'm too dumb to know if I'm doing it right and I can't stick with anything for too long, I'm thinking of just winging it until I save up for VFS or at least a trachea shave.

>>8127488
Yeah I'm 8.1" at 6'1

Made me feel a little better, thanks anon <3

>>8125278
One day I'll be fine
One day I'll grow a spine
And order titty-skittles online

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>>8125278
Hi everyone. I switched from Spiro to Cypro and Im defiantly feeling the cold alot more now. is this normal? I mean, im going to keep going, but I want to know if this is normal.

>>8126935
Who, Lulu? I understood that to be her training Shu to be a bartender okama (which is heartbreaking on its own), or perhaps how to deal with and hide the ever encroaching signs of masculine puberty. It was after Shu quit the cafe job following the writer girl publishing the crossdressing pictures on the web.

Pronouns for Shu are really weird for me. I can't ask what Shu's preferred pronouns are. I really want to say "her", but word of god though the entire series (and thus, via the narratory jujitsu in the final volume, Shu) labels Shu "a boy who wants to be a girl". On one hand, I realize Shu is a fictional character. On the other, the experiences in this work are painfully, agonizingly real.

To me, the last few chapters were a closeted transgender woman frantically writing to figure out and come to terms with their own identity. Shu's still negotiating. "I'm a man because of X, Y, and Z." "If I do A, B, and C, will I stop wanting to be a girl? How long with that take?"

The series ends without an answer. Anna cried as she read the manuscript, saying it felt like Shu was about to die. For us, the readers, that is the case. The series is over. The story, concluded. The characters, gone. We can only hope.

>>8127684
I've always been really cold (blood condition) but since HRT with Cypro anything below 23c is cold

>>8127687
No, Yuki I think her name was?

>>8127705
Ikr? I sleep in a freaking nest already. Its the worst. I'm either going to need to track down a boyfriend or invest in a shit ton of wool blankets.

>>8127504
yes and of course everyone will clock you as soon as you speak, it sucks.
just look up guides on voice training or see a voice therapist rather than getting risky surgery, its not that hard as long as you practice right

>>8127504
unless you look like 1000000% cis and have sure a somewhat andro voice people will probably switch to calling you sir after you speak.

>>8127504
Don't be lazy. There's some real basic shit you can do to at least push it to fairly andro without much effort.

>>8127760
I highly recommend boyfriend. My bf has an absurdly high body temp, it's amazing

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>>8127844
Thats all the convincing I need. I know a guy in my company. The minute I quite im asking him out. How did you and your BF met?

>>8127887
Good luck fampai c: Grindr, pre-transition...

>>8127711
Both Shu and Mako ask to work at Yuki's bar. Mako's case was in the last volume; I'm still looking for Shu's since it was much farther back. I do remember she turned down Shu partially due to age.

I'm not entirely sure what's with Mako's case. Particularly after he brings her to meet him mom. Since he doesn't go on to university he probably ends up working at Yuki's bar, and she probably helps him learn how to present female.

I'm now seriously wondering if anyone in this manga is on hormones. I don't think they're ever mentioned once. Yuki refers to herself as a transvestite on a few occasions. Chiba mentioned SRS at some point early in the series.

>>8128024
>c: Grindr, pre-transition...
Ah. Fuck. Well thats not going to work for me. Back to the cesspool thats ok cupid. Im glad your with him though.

>>8127684
I can't speak for Spiro vs Cypro as I haven't taken Spiro yet, but I can say that since starting HRT, I've been feeling like I'm freezing to death in mid 50s/low 60s (Fahrenheit) which is somewhat new to me

>>8125374
That manga hit me in some parts because I'm trans, but objectively speaking it was a pretty shit manga to me.
>>8127684
Absolutely, the moment I changed to cypro I became an ice cube. And I'm still are.

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hi

oops wrong thead hehe

>>8127711
>>8128027
Found it all the way back in ch 97, just as they start high school. Doesn't seem to be anything other than age.

>>8128401
Pookie go hug emma

>>8128431
too stinky

>>8125278
Is it normal for your sex drive to come back a year or so in? It's different from before, but I've been really thirsty as of late.

Do T-blockers and/or estrogen, when paired with healthy diet and exercise, help reduce belly gut faster?

>>8129025
Not on their own, no. But if you lose the weight, then regain weight, the fat will go to your hips and breasts instead. So dieting + exercise are still necessary.

>>8129025
yes

>>8128035
Love happens in unexpected ways, just be open to your heart and kind to yourself

Hey ladies, I have a question as far as bottom surgery on behalf of a cis girl friend of mine...
The short and skinny of it is that a doctor butchered her genitals during cancer treatment, and it's negatively affected every waking moment of hers since. She just came to me (an ftm) wondering if a bottom surgery doctor would be able to fix her situation? From my understanding what she needs done is only cosmetic, but she has no... loose skin down there to work with so she's completely lost and hopeless. I don't know how to help. Just wondering if you'd think it'd be possible to graft skin from somewhere else for the visuals. Or any help in general.

i can't remember if i took my estrogen 3 hours ago or not, but i am pretty sure i didn't so i just took my dose now
what happens if i am wrong? what happens from too much estrogen?

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When do you stop feeling completely inferior to cis women?

>>8129541
When you end up being prettier than the average, regardless of passing or not

>>8129527
One dose? Nothing.
I'm not sure what long term would do though.

>>8129541
What is that you feel inferior about specifically?

>>8129545
what if you're ugly

>>8129573
You try to stop being ugly

>>8129570
No matter what cis women will always be more desirable than me. I could bust my ass and become decently attractive and successful with a kindhearted personality, but it wouldn't matter at all because I wasn't born with a vagina. The cis woman will always be chosen over me.

The best cast scenario I can even hope for is to be considered "close enough" or an exotic fetish.

>>8129612
>an exotic fetish
You don't necessarily have to be an exotic FETISH. Even if this may cause you dysphoria, you are not only different down there but also your psyche is completely different than that of a cis woman because you were raised as a boy; being trans makes you an exotic woman in general.

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>>8129633
>Even if this may cause you dysphoria, you are not only different down there but also your psyche is completely different than that of a cis woman because you were raised as a boy
Yep, that does make me feel terrible.

Tranny life has pretty much completely destroyed me as a person and all that's left is a disgusting, bitter, and gloomy shell of a personality. All the more reason why I will never compare to cis women.

>>8129633
>but also your psyche is completely different than that of a cis woman because you were raised as a boy

This implies that there is a singular female psyche that is distinct from any psyche that a trans woman could conceivably have.

>>8129025

No. Just work harder and namely eat less fatass.

>>8129527
nothing, dw

>>8129925
I think they're mainly talking about socialisation

t. 26 years ""living"""""male""""

>>8130014
Thank mr skeltal

lets say i was to stop taking hrt, what would happen to breast tissue

>>8130911
It stays, but they may shrink. It's one of the only truly non-reversible effects of HRT (without surgery), along with infertility.

>tfw too depressed to practice voice

>>8134917
>tfw voice is too cringey to listen to so I avoid talking or practicing

>>8129494
I'm sorry for cis surgery I have no idea honestly. your best bet would probably be to contact some surgeons and see if they can give you any advice like what they think would be possible who you should talk to etc.

>>8129494
What happened to her exactly? How does it affect her?

>>8134917
You can sort of practice your voice without making any noise.

Just talk with yourself, and create an inside voice. So then you try to push your inside voice as high as you can, by pulling up your adams apple, and partially practice on making your sound come from far forward in your mouth (but you can't really practice that, as you aren't making any noise).

Is it bad if I've missed a dose of my AAs? I was so tired that i fell asleep early last night. Will I masculize from this? What if i miss two doses, hypothetically?

>tfw you started at 20 but it was still too late for you
I look like I'm like 25 already, why the fuck did my parents have me so late my dad was like 55 FUCK

Also why the FUCK is so hard to just order some god damn Finasteride off AllDayChemist I put my e-check details in but they keep cancelling my order

Hi! I'm >>8138235. Any advice?

>>8138379
not a lot will happen from one or two doses
just try to stay as consistent as possible

>>8138386
just stop. you are turning into a complete meme.

>>8140066
You don't know what it's like to look like me.

>>8140075
I know you'll meme at me but your face from what people have seen looks fine. Also you should really type like this more often, it looks more dignified.

>>8140095
I type like this everywhere else. I type like I do on there because I'm a fucking poser.

I'm not trans. I'm just projecting my depressive feelings onto being trans. I'm just a sad person. I'm not trans.

So, I came out to my friends. They are all very happy that I'm trying to be myself.

I wanted some more confrontation, and now I'm completly lost. What next? What do I do? What are the first few steps? I'm honestly so lost...

Training my girl voice is a good start, right?

>>8140103
I'd think you definitely qualify as trans though. If you want to talk elsewhere I can leave a discord or throw away email for you so we can chat not in public. I talk to you enough as anon anyways hehe

>>8140114
Yeah leave it if you want.

>>8140109
Yes. If you have female friends, ask them for help with makeup, clothes, etc. If not, Google and YT are your best friend. As for actually transitioning medically (HRT and the like), I recommend doing plenty of research as there's multiple different paths you can take. Best of luck to ya.

>>8140155
See if you got something

>>8140167
And sent you something back.

>>8140132
Thanks anon. Luckily, most of my friends are girls.


Also, anyone here wants to reach dickgirl mode? I want boobs, but I don't want to lose my dick, or so I think at least for now.


Also, will HRT get in the way of losing weight? I know it slows down muscle growth, but will it prevent me from getting fit?

How long will I be able to hide in boymode until body changes become noticeable?

>>8127887
not her, but i recommend boyfriend also
i met mine on omegle

>Day 2 of just AA's
>No more semen
Is this normal? I expected at least a month before this happened. It's honestly really freaky...

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>>8125278
>be me
>closeted lesbian tranny
>friend's friend enters our didcord server
>start talking to her in the text channel
>somehow managed to have a fluent conversation
>accidentally use female pronouns when talking about myself
>I "correct" myself on the next message
>"Oh, I thought you were a girl"
>mfw

>>8142571
what kind of AA's?

>>8142571
My semen count was already dipping after a week and erections were already harder lol. I don't even fucking I'm now, not even a little.

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Does anyone has experience with epilators? If so, which one can you recommend and how good does it work for you? I allready used sugaring but it takes so much time.

PLEASE GIVE ME BASIC RETARD MAKEUP TUTORIALS SO I CAN WHORE UP AND PASS PLEASE

T. Perma boymode

>>8143422
I epilated for a while but got lazy and depressed for a few months and stopped pretty much everything. gonna start again though I forgot how nice it is to have smooth legs.

as for recommendation I have braun silk epil 7 I think. it works well and the light is really nice. I never use any of the attachments it comes with though they are pretty much useless. I've heard the shaver head attachment thing works well for some people but I already have an electric shaver for body so I have no use for it. basically this one works well for me but the attachments are useless. I got it on big amazon sale tho so I don't really care. anyway what you want to look for is one that is cordless and you can use in the shower. those are the important points imo but if you can get one with a light it's nice to have.

>>8142935
Just spiro, waiting on my blood work to start estrogen.
>>8143005
It just happened a lot faster than I expected. I don't have any other indicator that it's working besides no erections, so it's kind of spooky to me.

>>8144089
thank you for your reply.

I currently tend to Braun and its Silk Epil 5 because of the cord. Have bad experience with short batterie lifespan in a Philips Bodygroomer... And after standing for hours in my bathroom sugaring, it sounds nice to be able to do it lying on a towel on my bed watching TV.

The epilation quality should be the same between those two models as far es I read.

So thanks again for sharing your experience.

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>>8144361
>>8144089
you got me thinking about the no chord thing. Got the Epil 9 now. Amazon on one hand and Braun with 100 days money back on the other, so theres nothig to lose. So curious!

>>8125996
Dump her!

>tfw heartburn
i need to stop eating so much fucking sugar

>>8145773
She asked for another chance after thinking things through. She's been encouraging me to be in girl mode ever since.

This is going well...maybe TOO well...

>>8143440
seconded

I got started on HRT in November, I'm about to turn 25.
I'm out to all my family and friends, got nothing but support back.
Changes are happening as projected, blood levels are great, for the first time in my life I'm at a non-anorexic weight and I've never been happier

Just wanted to share, /lgbt/ gave me the motivation to go forward and I'm really grateful

>>8151216
nice

>>8125374
>finish horou musuko
>lose all will to live and remain on my bed for about 3 hourse until I finally regain some of my strenght
Fuck Shimura.

>>8153201
Why? Why did it make you feel that way anon

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>>8151216

>>8153207
For me the manga was like revisiting some of the darkest moments of my childhood and teenage years. I feel quite connected with the feelings of anxiety and conflict that Niroti shows through out the series, but certainly I didn't got those sweet redeeming times like the ones Nitori did have. Instead I was constantly watching my back for bullies (which in my school where fairly common) or my parents, whose concept of "good parenting" was making me and my brothers scared of them by beating the crap out of us. I never had someone to trust through those times, nobody to talk about how I felt, how much I wanted to be seen as a girl. All those hours, days, weeks, months and years fantazising about impossible scenarios in which I could be the girl I wanted to be in the real world where only the result of being so fucking lonely all the times. I can't remember when I started to cope through fantasy with the fact that I wanted to be girl, but that decision changed everything, and it should have been pretty much at the same time I realized that the world around me was indifferent, even hostile towards what was happening inside of me. Everything around me was so disgustingly awful, at every turn there could be a slap on my face or a mocking laugh, or worse. Inside my mind at least I was free, or I thought I was.
When I read HM I reconnected with those feeling, but with the release of watching how this story was being retold in a way that was far less traumatizing, and even with some hope. It was about this girl struggling to come to terms with her identity while having supporting parents (well, at least parents that didn't beat her at every turn) and friends to talk about her trans feeling. FRIENDS TO TALK ABOUT HER TRANS FEELINGS, CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT? That shit was dope. I would have give an arm to get one of those. She even had a transguy of the same age to talk and have crushes on. That's just too sweet.
(cont)

>>8153433
In terms of how the story unfolds I have to say it's pretty spot on in every turn it takes, and I guess she did her research because she aboards not only young trans, but also a more mature one, and even someone who was married and had a daughter, so in that regard I have nothing to say against it. My problem with her work is not about how she did it, but more like about my expectations when I started reading it and what happened at the end. Since I was so invested emotionally, having to see how the very awaited turn of events when she finally gets the chance to start her transition never arrives, but instead get to see how she gets more and more masculinized while you see how she goes from being somewhat hopeful to slowly lose that hope, realising that she will never be able to live as the woman she felt she was is just heartbreaking. All of this process is cemented with the ending, where she outright goes full nihilism mode and just give up. That ending is a glimpse of a death that I don't want to confront. To come to terms that I would never live as the woman I feel I am would be a fate worse than death. In fact if I ever come to that conclusion it would be with a gun on my head, because such life is not worth living.
In short, it was being confronted with the possibility of just giving up living as a woman the thing that sent me into an spiraling vortex of self-loathing and dispair. And since I wasn't trastitioning back then, it hit me even harder. Still, a lot of things had to happen for me to finally come to terms with being trans and actually start doing something about it, but even to this day I'm not fully commited, and still see the ugly face of such horrible life being unfolded in front of me.

>tfw smoking weed makes it all better

anyone else have an oral fixation?

>>8155356
in which sense and if oral sex in which direction?
I love the taste of pussy of fresh washed but wet pussy.

>tfw you take your estrogen and can't stop smiling
Feels so much better than being unable to smile

>>8155416
basically I suck on my thumb constantly to calm myself down

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>>8125374
On an unrelated note anyone know where pic related is from?

>>8155705
I saw the source a while ago but didn't read it. It looked like it was just some offhand thing in a hentai or something; I'm pretty sure there's nothing else to do with being trans in there, so you're not missing out. I could be wrong though.

Sigh, voice is just ugh....

I think I've reached as high as I can, but it's not enough.
And I can't even laugh or scream.

Even girls where you can percieve their voice to be low, it's 200-500hz, I just cannot get that kind of variance... I get like, 200-300, which is not nearly enough to get a dynamic voice.

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>finally get the balls to see a doc for HRT approval
>decide to start on Spiro and see how I feel before officially getting on hormones
>2 weeks in, no positive change other than arm hair coming in a bit slower
>not too keen on having to pee all the time and not getting spontaneously horny anymore
[spoiler]>spend too much time in reading trannyposting in /tv/ threads and have a warped view of what people actually think[/spoiler]

why isn't this easier

>>8157846
>finally get the balls

i see what you did there

>>8155705
oh my god that image

>>8157846
>2 weeks
are you cuhrazy
especially without estra pretty much nothing is gonna happen for months

>>8158011

I know but I'm too nervous to start on it. Am I gonna have to pee this much forever? Does penile shrink depend on whether or not I try to fap?

>>8158053
yes. kind of I think you can get less shrinkage if you make yourself get erections

>>8158053

Spiro is literally a diuretic and the t blocking effect is a side effect.

I'm debating whether or not to buy Finasteride and do a Cypro + Finasteride combo or just buy Bica.

Does Bica work as well in growing hairlines?

Cypro is making me really depressed but I'd feel even worse if I had a "male brain" since I'll feel like I'm on T with Bica right?

I'd just really like to feel normal again.

any germansis here who didnt had to do a whole trial year before gettig hormons? I'm not getting younger and just want to transition and pass.

>>8156399
>500hz
no, it's not
female average range is 180-260 hz
resonance is more important than pitch anyway, if you can reach 160 with a good resonance and inflection you're good to go

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>>8162009
Captured this from a stream.
https://clyp.it/ilhkbuds

Her voice ranges between 200-500hz, most people have a variance of 200hz
So if your normal speaking voice is at 200hz, it should be able to go up to 400hz as a normal variance thing. Otherwise you end up sounding monotone, and it'll be hard to expressive with your voice.

I decided to visit this thread and say hey

>>8162044
>needing a variance of 300 hz to not sound monotone
i manage just fine with a 225hz base pitch and a variance of up to 285hz

>>8162284
>variance of up to 285hz
meaning i increase it by about 60hz also going down about 60hz

>>8162145
hello

>tfw you have a dick
:(

How do you deal with a large disgusting Adam's apple? It's getting warmer so scarves won't work anymore. I feel like it's not something that's often discussed. Are you doomed to be instaclocked until you can afford a trach shave?

>>8167300
>Are you doomed to be instaclocked until you can afford a trach shave?
Pretty much. Is it as bad as riley's? I'd say adam's apples are the most clockable feature among trans women, aside from jawline.

How can I get girlmode looks before starting HRT? Any tips?

hip pain means that they're growing right?

>>8167409
Unless you're like 13, they won't grow.
Might be some muscle cartilage change though, or your maybe changing your posture.

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>>8167393
Hmm... Not quite that bad, but still definitely noticeable.

i don't even have boobs yet, just like the beginning of that, but my fucking nipples keep getting hit on things
like fucking how? they are sticking out like what, a fucking inch?

>>8170726
The breast bud is all the glandular tissue that's going to grow and fill out your breasts, so they're sensitive as fuck.

>>8171446
they feel really warm too...

>>8171446
How large can breasts on a short person become? I read hrt often wont give you that big boobs? I'd be totally happy with B cups.

>>8173201
The reason is usually because of the ribcage on MtFs. If your ribcage is fine for your height, you'll get nornal sized breasts.

>>8173220
>tfw giant ribcage but genetics say they should be large

so was anyone else really socially retarded as a teenager? I was diagnosed as autistic, but it never quite fit because I actually wasn't oblivious of social queues, I was just ridiculously shy and awkward. I'm 24 now and finally coming to terms with the fact that I might have to transition. But it seems a little weird that I never realized anything until maybe 3 years ago when I started crossdressing. I just thought human interactions were impossible.

>>8175651
AGPs often realize late. It's just part of their type.

>>8175727
Oh fuck off with that.

>>8175651
It's pretty weird you'd only realize it 3 years ago.
What was it you realized?

>>8173220
define fine for your height

>>8175736
I have a few memories of thinking about it before then, like learning what SRS was and being really relieved that it existed. And there were some daydreams about being a girl. and I hated my voice and facial hair. And I always imagined myself as the woman in porn. I just thought it was normal. Then like 4 years ago I started using my female facebook profile for everything, and started crossdressing and getting euphoria from that. And now I have really intense dysphoria pretty much 24/7

>>8175736
>Oh fuck off with that.
It's true, you know.

>>8175813
>And I always imagined myself as the woman in porn. I just thought it was normal.
how could you think that was normal anon?

>>8175896
some people noticed when they were like 5 or 6 but then ended up repressing their whole lives

>>8158401
>>8158053
Why would I not want penile shrinkage?

>>8176079
some people are really concerned about it idk. also people say there can be issues with srs depth but I think its not as important with modern techniques

>>8176091
>modern techniques
until they can put me into a human sized test tube and mutate my body to cis with chemicals i will not call it modern

>>8175651
yes I was very shy and awkward but I don't think actually autistic. I started looking at trans stuff at like 15 but I didn't realise I am trans until like 19-20 sometime

>>8176104
okay good for you fag sorry for triggering you would you prefer if I say present day techniques instead

>>8176104

Maybe look up what modern means first, it literally means the present time.

>>8176029
Those people weren't HSTS.

>>8176161
>>8175896
Get the fuck out of this thread, return to /mtfg/ instead.

>>8176186
>return

>>8176133
>>8176111
i am sorry for confusing you two, i do know what modern means, i was just saying i feel like current methods are very barbaric and that they hardly seem modern at all considering they are literally just cutting you up and rearranging things
i dream of one of those big test tubes you can just kinda hibernate inside of while a chemical bath is mutating your body
then when you wake up you will finally feel right, just perfect...no more mental torment

I really, really need my brain to calm down and stop working a thousand miles an hour. I'm constantly thinking about every aspect of both genders, and constantly stressing about it. At the end of the day, I always wish my physical body was female to align with my person, and I have physical dysphoria and probably some dysmorphia. I have no point, I'm just in pain and /tgg/ seems like the only safe/comfortable community I've found om the web, and since I am so lonely I need someone to talk to. Thanks anon.

>>8176686
Anon who was considering transition?
Bring up the thoughts you have, like anything, things that annoy your, or make you sad, or even talk about things you like irrelevant to trans.

>>8176686
Hey anon, sorry you feel that way :( I know how you feel. It really sucks to be trans.

>>8176686
I feel the same
Recently I can't focus because I keep thinking about how my life would be as a girl. And then I become afraid of coming out/transitioning and tell myself I can't be trans. Hugs

>>8143440
Youtube

>>8155356
>anyone else have an oral fixation
I do, I anyways need something in my mouth (usually to chew on) and a cute guy gives me crap about it Q.Q

>with every passing day on HRT and growing out my hair, I look more and more like CWC

This is the most horrifying timeline. I think it's mostly because my hair is literally "guy's cut, but allowed to grow out with zero trimming". I haven't started presenting as female yet, but what can I even do with my hair while it's short to look feminine?

>>8177117
If you actually look like CWC, your hair should be the least of your problems

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If you create your female voice trough altering resonance by raising the adams' apple and making the mouth "smaller" and only raising pitch in your natural limit, instead of going into super high falsetto head voice mode, will Wendler glottoplasty (like the advanced version they do at yeson voice center) make any sence?
With this surgery the vocal chords get shortened by fixing them together for a certain length raising pitch. But will it change resonance as well? Will you still have to controll your adams' apple? Or do you dont have to think off raising it at all after some time of getting used to it anyways?

>>8177562
the surgery only gives you something you could do anyway, but means you don't have to consciously do it?

>>8126931
I stopped growing at 13. 5'11.

>>8177620
it cut offs the lower frequences which eliminates the need to focus on that, right, but will you still have to focus on other things while speaking?

>>8176412
like 99% (100?) of surgeries are just cutting you up and rearranging things. would you call heart surgery barbaric as well? the only time I see people saying surgery is barbaric mutilation is when they talk about srs but every single other surgery is all good and completely fine.

I'm starting HRT at 26. Is it too late for me already? Do I have any chance to pass?

>>8177922
no.

yeah probably.

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>>8177922
Everybody is different.
Remember: the goal is not to "pass" but to be happy and love yourself.

>>8177967
Also, remember there's a difference between passing and being attractive. You very well might turn out ugly or simply mediocre, but perfectly passable.

>>8177922
~25 is generally regarded as the absolute last chance of passing (due to aging, sharp decline in HGH production, final bone fusion, and sharp rise in testosterone), but since you're 26, it might not have happened to you yet. That said, most of it tends to happen _before_ 25. It's still worth trying though, just in case.

>>8176692
No, I am transitioning. I'm beginning month three of the mones lol and still questioning because I can't ever commit to anything and I'm just a fuck. Estrogen makes me feel amazing though.
>>8176696
Thanks girl, at least we share each other's pain, although I would rather neither feel it

>>8176828
I can completely understand. I'm just relying on the feeling I get when I look at my legs and they are girly and femenine and I squeal with joy

>>8177651
Afaik not, they also give you some botox there to help you forget what you learned with voice training.

>>8179209
I thought the botox is just to immobilize the vocal folds during healing to prevent accidentally rip open the suture?

>>8179278
Might be that too... But they also want you to relearn to talk, because you'll be talking way too high if you continue to talk the way you talk before.

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well i was repressed by my family but my family have chilled out now...i don't know if its because i just haven't been perusing it and they think they won but i think i'm ready to try going for it again!

>>8179654
How did they repress you? Greentext it.

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>>8179654
>>8179677
long story short
>dad disowned me kicked me out
>mom took me in only to passive aggressive me into stopping becus of religious reasons.
>was living in an isolated trailer in the deep south with no job or internet or car. so i had no out side support just hate
>my aunts and uncles wouldn't let there kids near me and telling them i was some kinda freak pedo.
>i couldn't get out until my dad took me back to the city so i could go to school and get my life on track but i couldn't let get so much of a whiff of any of that"gay shit"
but his life is a wreck now and mine is on the up swing so i think i got a real chance and he cant do shit now because i'm paying a large part of the rent now!

>>8179736
Hah! What happened to his life?

>>8179736
Karma is nice sometimes

>>8179745
well i guess a mixture of me "turning out the way i did" cus he blames him self for it and his divorce and that he never had the chance to fallow his dreams cus he was stuck providing for a senpai that didn't even like him and having a mental brake down from all this and the psychical labor job he had.

now he just sits there smoking pot to overwhelmed to even go to the store

>>8179765
not senpai i meant family

>>8179774
Lol, you control him now

>>8179765
make him transition

>>8177906
all surgery seems barbaric to me and all of it terrifies me

>>8180438
top idea
do this

>All my friends and teachers use my name at school

>Go shopping with girlfriends

>Going to an Endo over the summer

Life is pretty good right now!

>>8180492
AGP is hereditary so...

>>8180532
>AGP
stahhhp

would the amount of alcohol in kombucha be enough to fuck with hrt?

>>8180662
no. you can drink alcohol every night and it won't fuck with your hrt all those **WARNING EXTREME CAUTION** shit are written for 50 year old hons

>>8182086
i am so glad i am not transitioning at 50

>tfw you never brush your hair so it get matts frequently
>tfw no motivation to bother brushing it so i just pull the matts apart and forget about it

>>8182141
I don't understand how someone can repress until their 30s-50s or even later. Hell, I even have a hard time understanding why people would repress until their 20s. I'd have killed myself long before then.

>>8182231
i felt super ashamed of myself and embarrassed, i basically told myself "i can't be like that" and just lived in denial
stopped repressing when i was 20

>>8182213
just fucking brush your hair

>>8182231
idk I think people have different lives and different circumstances so we should rly try not to judge especially when we know literally nothing about them

also the 'UR NOT TRANS UNLES YOU HAVE THIS MANY SUICIDE ATTEMPTS XXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD' stuff is a fucked up and shitty attitude

Anyone else here have a pocket of fat under their chin? I'm not even fat (only 135 lbs at 5'9) and yet i have this fat that hangs literally right under my chin. It makes my chin look so much larger :(

>>8182858
no, post a pic of chin
wtf

>>8182374
I dont have any major psychological problems and still want to transition. Probably because I just realised a few month ago that i want to become a girl (the signs were there but I overcompensated hard and tried to feel comfortable as a male, which didnt felt right and failed in the end). Furthermore I have little things to worry about becoming a girl because I'm in a very lucky situation, personally, socially and financially. I also looked up most things I will have to do, made a ruff plan and allready have it in execution. Having a plan takes away most of that fear of not knowing what to do, reducing anxciety.

First: in a few weeks appointenment for psychological assesment wether or not I'm trans
If positive diagnosed: Semen cryopreservation, Endo, Court for legal name and sex change, speech therapist, hair removal face, probably trach shave, SRS
Maybe: hairline reconstruction, Voice surgery, .....

Will take me month to years but better to know whats coming up to you beforehand.

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Feeling pretty bad right now. I saw myself in the mirror and I have huge shoulders and a disgusting manly face. I feel like crossdressers look more feminine than me sometimes. Seeing passing transgirls and transition timelines makes me feel even worse. Does it get better?

>>8182999
if you find your way, yes
if you don't, no

>>8125278
6 months hrt,
Pass worse then I did before I started
>tfw

>>8183091
some people go through a awkward phase
just give yourself some more time to hopefully get past that

Today I went to the ladies restroom and a girl walked me outside saying it was the wrong place

>>8183099
Thanks, really

I didn't mean to sound whiny or anything. I just did full makeup\hair for the first time in a while and was a bit upset about how I looked.

Honestly though its my fault I just realized a couple days ago that I've lost weight since I started hormones and I was pretty skellymode already

Can't redistribute fat without fat to redistribute right?

>>8183114
yea...makes me wonder about how i am going to turn out
i am only a few months in but a total skelly...
i usually only eat once a day because i never leave my room

>>8183100
ouch...
i feel for you anon

>>8183100
what a cunt

>>8183121
start counting calories right now bud, itll only go well for you

>>8183189
should i eat a lot of candy?
i have been eating more candy lately

>>8183189
you should find whatever calorie requirements you need to gain weight (prob around 2300-2500) and eat whatever you can to get to that goal everyday

Ive been eating a lot of seeds and nuts on top of my normal food/sweets and thats only just getting me there

>>8183100
What was the story?

>>8182327
Did I write this? I need to reply to see

>>8183552
oh cool, we are very similar then

>>8183207
No you fucking retard, eat healthy and lots, get multiple meals a day, fix your sleep schedule so you can eat a large breakfast

>>8183552
Nope wasn't me
>>8183559
Yeah, I remember distinctly when I got into trans videos and stuff and distinctly said "nah, that ain't me, there's no way that could happen to me"

I also VERY distinctly remember thinking I would regret that in 3-4 years. 3-4 years later I am transitioning and hardcore regret. Thx high school me :(

>>8183585
Why regret?

>>8183589
Pretty sure he means regretting not starting 3-4 years earlier

>>8183575
i haven't eaten breakfast in like 10 years and i haven't had a sleep schedule in about 2 years
if i just eat more and healthy i should be ok

>>8183612
>he

>>8183612
>he

>>8125374
hourou musuko is shit
theres a nice one I forget the name of but I know one girl leaves near the end of it. its pretty drama lama but things end on a hopeful note. about a trans girl dating another girl and raising kids

>>8183585
lol I was thinking pretty much the same thing at 16. well not really regret but that I might be trans but oh well I can just deal with it later I guess

>>8183643
That sounds very cute, tell me the name if you find it
And yes I agree, hourou musuko is garbage

>>8183114
My makeup suddenly looked cakier the last time I put on what I had been using before I started hormones.
I think it's because my skin is changing.
It's hard to maintain a certain appearance while your body is changing.

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transwife loves getting her dick sucked.

mwf i can't help but fantasize over her hard cock being inside me as i suck it.

>>8183628
>>8183633
Thx ladies :)

>>8183589
>>8183657
Yep I meant regret not starting 3-4 years ago, maybe I would have a much happier life and had a much better college experience

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im gay

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>Be lurking /co/ threads about pic related
>Guys frequently discuss trying to get into a relationship with someone who acts and/or looks like her
>Much mutual encouragement and elaborate tangents like discussions about lifting to become more desirable
>Meanwhile I relate to this character a lot
>My hair is blonde and straight and almost as long
>Nobody even has anything nice to say to me, much less any interest in a trans girl
>Feel left out and go back to /lgbt/

>>8184488
thats interesting

>>8184461
yeah I definitely regret it now but at the time I guess I wasn't really thinking logically I just remember very clearly thinking idk what is going on but if I actually am trans whatever I can just deal with it when I'm older.

>>8184526
>>Guys frequently discuss trying to get into a relationship with someone who acts and/or looks like her
>>Much mutual encouragement and elaborate tangents like discussions about lifting to become more desirable
that's kind of creepy..

and sorry they dismiss you immediately thats not nice at all.

>>8184526
>I relate to this character a lot
worrisome. why?

>>8183628
>>8183633
>tfw accidently wrote "he"
>not sure if I did it because I'm unconsciously used to write he or because I legit missed to press the S

wew lad

>>8182327
Same

>>8184526
Who tf even is that

>>8184751
The titular character from Star vs The Forces of Evil. An aspergers magical girl who goes on wacky adventures with her normie friends.

>>8184558
I really had trouble summarizing this!
It's a lot of things.
The way she likes cute things but also creepy things. Like she wears clothes with rainbows and bunnies but she's also down to visit a graveyard on the anniversary of a clown's death.
The way she has unique, even impressive talents, but can still struggle with simple tasks.
I can get too worked up when I'm excited or anxious or sad.
I really connected with the episode about math class, where she has trouble paying attention to something that doesn't interest her and putting effort into something that doesn't come easily.
I think that's the gist of it.
I understand that this make me sound like a catch but I'm not trying to be difficult, I just am, and not hating myself until I feel like I'm perfect doesn't mean I'm complascent.

>>8184855
Meant to say "DOESN'T make me sound like a catch"

https://discord.gg/jMYNeS4

ya'll can join club cake if you want i guessssss

>>8185893
>>8185950
>>8185933
>>8185911
STOP SPAMMING EVERYWHERE

>>8185933
i want to organize a huge fucking raid on your fucking server
stop fucking posting here you twat

>>8184636
*lass

>>8187200
i love you

>>8185933
Discord is literally against the very nature of this thread

>>8187453
i hate it tb h. people are even coming into irc channels i am in and spamming links to their discord servers like wtf

>>8187517
instead of saying desu, you could of just said desu
it would of given the exact same content to your post

>>8187663
this desu

>>8187663
you're not my mom you can't tell me what to do

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I would feel bad for a transgender draph. Sexual dimorphism is truly tragic.

>>8187708
There's probably magic to switch their sexes.

>>8187747
why can't there be sex change magic irl ;-;

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>>8187747
I don't think so, some of them actually are.

>>8187768
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiresias
Sacrifice a black sheep to Hera.

>>8187827
>Sacrifice a black sheep to Hera.
if this worked there would be no black sheep left

>>8187768
Maybe in the future.

>>8187827
>beard

>>8187905
It grows super fast. He even laments this in the game.

>tfw the thread is moderately active yesterday so expect to see at least 10 posts when i wake up
>tfw there is none

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>>8190669
I'm bummed that nobody ever replied to my Star post >>8184855

>>8190689
wow you really have aspergers

>>8190689
i'm the anon who asked about it in the first place. sorry! i don't follow generals well...

>>8184855
cute and nice and sympathetic. what are the simple tasks you struggle with and your talents?

>>8190735
>i'm the anon who asked about it in the first place. sorry!
It's okay! Better late than never!
I was the youngest student in a really selective, advanced art program in college and I've sold some of my post graduate work. I don't want to get more specific than that. Not because I'm famous, I just want to stay anonymous here.

The simple tasks are everyday "grown up" taking-care-of-yourself things. I can't drive a car, I'm not great with money. Keeping my hair untangled has been a struggle. Things like that.

My therapist is sure I'm on the autism spectrum. You could say I'm just your average eccentric bohemian artiste, but whatever the case, despite my gifts the basic work of living is a challenge to me, and I feel that.

>>8190955
>everyday "grown up" taking-care-of-yourself things. I can't drive a car, I'm not great with money.
me too. how do you want to deal with these basic challenges?

>>8191076
So far it's been internet research (like for recipes and nutrition), asking the right friends and relatives, lots of trial and error. Remembering times where I regretted something, like waiting too long to brush my hair or take a shower, and I felt all gross, has helped me think about preparing for the next time.
Did you have any suggestions or recommendations that have helped you?

>>8191146
i'm afraid not. i count on other people a lot. i want a boyfriend to look after me.

>>8191190
It's okay to need help. I hope you find the support system you're looking for.
Us Stars can all be good girls and learn and grow and get gold stars, even if we need help sometimes!

>>8191224
<3

>It's okay to need help.
i try to think that but it does hurt how i see myself.

my boyfriend called me a "sissy" in bed last night... idk how to feel about it..

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>>8191241
I also used to be really scared and ashamed of my limitations. I can still get really insecure. But I know that it's not helpful.
I'm reminded of that episode where Star tells her mom she lost the family spellbook. Star was way harder on herself than her mom was. I think that's because her mom knew that putting down Star wasn't going to fix anything. Star knew she had made a big mistake and she was sorry.
Just try to get back to encouraging yourself whenever you slip into putdowns.
Give yourself credit for trying your best. Encourage yourself. Remember what you want to do is achieve your goals, not give up and punish yourself for not reaching them already.

>>8191311
thank you. i don't really have goals though. even that's too much for me.

>>8191262
he's probably a chaser
at least you have a bf tho

>>8191347
That's okay too! I'm sorry, I assumed too much about what we have in common.
As you can see, I can get really fired up about self-improvement, but that doesn't mean you have to.
I do want you to feel comfortable with yourself. I wish I could give that feeling to you, but don't feel like you need to try to make that happen for me. I don't want to put any kind of pressure on you.

>>8191480
don't worry. i wish i liked self-improvement more. but i struggle and i think i've kind of given up because that's easy and not stressful. i wish i had a bf to improve me.

>>8175651
> I was diagnosed as autistic, but it never quite fit because I actually wasn't oblivious of social queues, I was just ridiculously shy and awkward.
same, I knew from like 13 though
I'm not really awkward anymore. maybe a little of that was HRT helping me to be myself but mainly it's just exposure and sorting my shit out

>>8191602
accidental namefag sry

I've been analyzing women's bodies and noticed that, by my measure, many of them have shoulders wider than their hips. That leads me to believe that I'm measuring my shoulders incorrectly.

Where should I measure them from? Is there a diagram?

anyone else ever feel like
holy fucking shit why is my life so fucked

How to I transition without losing fertility or experiencing penile shrinkage?

>>8195033
>How do I become a woman while still remaining a man?

Short answer: You don't

>>8195119
Long answer?

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>>8195291
define transition

if you just want tits, then get boob job

>>8195119
They can be a femboy though. Take bicalutamide instead of spironolactone or cyproterone acetate so your balls and penis don't atrophy.

>>8195383
I want my entire body to be feminine aside from my benis

>>8195648
You're not trans, then. >>8183016

>>8195672
But I want people to call me she:(

>>8195781
>wants to appropriate female pronouns
>not only wants to keep the dick, but make it usable for penetration

>>8195789
Only to have biological children with

>>8195831
You can sperm bank

>>8195893
But I worry that it will go wrong:/

>>8195831
the idea of having children by impregnating someone makes me feel disgusting

>>8195672
>>8195789
non op trans women exist.

>>8199220
non op AGP trans women, you mean

hello, friends, how are you all this good morning?

>>8199311
Dysphoric! : D
Also hungry but I dunno if I should eat yet, and a little tilted

does anyone else wish nullification was an accepted alternative to srs

i dont want my penis but i dont want a neovag either

>>8200152
You could get an orchi

>>8200160
i am planning on it but i would like full nullification

>>8200161
I don't understand why you'd want nullification over a neovagina
Do you not have any sex drive?

>>8200162
i do but i prefer anal

>>8125278
>tfw asian
>tfw square jaw
Just my fucking luck.

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There's ghost on every corner and most of them are you

>>8200152
You should seek counseling, that's not normal at all.

>>8202740
i have bpd and im working through it but i dont know if ill ever get to the point of wanting a pseudovag

>>8200152
yes, i just want my dick gone but i dont care enough to have a vag

>>8202740
it is perfectly normal.
neovag's require a lot of upkeep and are mostly unattractive to potential partners.
with nullification you can get rid of the dysphoria without creating some nightmarish stinkbox to deal with.

>>8202910
are there any legitimate nullification procedures or are they all sketchy back alley surgeons

>>8202910
>and are mostly unattractive to potential partners.
Nullification will make you absolutely disgusting to pretty much every person in the world.
Only maybe 1% of the 1% who would accept you as trans would be ok with a "nullification" surgery.

>without creating some nightmarish stinkbox to deal with.
Nullification is way more gross.

>>8203038
This is just anecdotal bullshit. I have my own anecdotal bullshit: my boyfriend loathes the idea of plastic surgery, doesn't want me to get SRS (I've already an orchi) and he's expressed that if the dysphoria were bad enough he'd be okay with me having a penectomy. Your origami blender shit is GROSS.

>>8203081
Your boyfriend is at least closet gay, get rid of him.

can u have this one back i dont wnat it
>>>/r9k/36663452

new thread
>>8205993