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/femgen/ - Second Cross-sex HRT Research Edition

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>This is how SERMs work.

Please discuss how the combination bazedoxifene/conjugated estrogens functions, if using the conjugated estrogen with SERM-like properties 17β-Dihydroequilenin is a good idea, if low dosage testosterone in an FtM patients will.reduce or merely delay effects TS, and how should the administration of the HRT wiki be structured?

FAQ
>What is a fem?
An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. Most are gay.
>Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
>Can I be a fem?
It's possible. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
>Should I go on HRT?
You'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man. There's more info in the pastebin.
>Is liking fems considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
>Pastebin?
http://pastebin.com/9Ab1SpRE
>Discord?
http://discord.gg/faBYaap

Old thread: >>7820667
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PSA:

Anyone on bicalutamide, please read these posts from the previous thread, it is about your health:
>>7844740
>>7844761
>>7844868
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First for anime are the cutest boys


If you dont post anime you belong is mascgen.

This threads for trannies and fembois alike. Keep your identity politics out of my general.
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>>7841913

I'm not even a member of the discord right now. I'm not that poster. I wasn't against trans people, I was against the agp posting and dysphoria posting as both of which were annoying and not the reason I joined femgen. I joined it since the group originally was heavy on self improvement, and I'm not personally improving. I left after talking to Roms on voice about AAs, Estradiol, and SERMs as he had some questions.

>>7843409

I never claimed I wasn't. A large portion of the discord is MTF or NB, both of which are part of the trans umbrella. Go back to your fucking thread, Robin.
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Hey femgen, it's great to see you.
I just wanted to remind you all to be healthy today. Remember to eat well, take time to be quiet and think, be hygienic, brush your teeth, etc. I know you're probably insecure about some physical features, but tell yourself some things you like about yourself too. Make today productive and healthy, and please remember to take care of yourselves!! It's a very important part of being a femboy. Remember: Happy, healthy, hygienic! Love you all, have a great day.
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>>7841567
Go fuck yourself Cass, I'm not a transgirl. I'm literally one of the most annoying advocates of a purer femgen. Stop making fucking drama.
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>>7845050

What are your thoughts on doing keto while on bicalutamide?

>>7845056

Get a trip so I can filter you.

>>7845163

I'm not making drama dude, you got memed on by someone else.
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>>7845184
Nope not going to trip.

This is tranny territory now famalam
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>>7845184
>What are your thoughts on doing keto while on bicalutamide?
I'm not on whoremoans and I'm on keto
keto its pretty damn effective imo
but don't be deluded
you'll lose weight extremely fast within the first week because all the carbohydrate junk will empty from your bowels. fat and protein has much less waste material in your digestive tract
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What's a good BMI to shoot for for maximum femboiness? I'm thinking 15 is good.
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>>7845503
you'd look disgusting
whats your current bmi, send a few headless pictures here so we can comment
18-19 would be enough unless you have atrocious fat distribution
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>>7845201
This was always tranny territory, only many are in denial about it.

If you're on HRT and you thought you were cis, guess what? You are a fucking tranny and it is obvious.
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>>7845022
post a selfie and ur personality type
https://www.16personalities.com/
best femboy type reporting in o7
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>>7845539

Yes, and no. A little tranny, yes. But not completely.
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>>7845622
m-me too thanks
hon hon adventurer
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>>785622
Love you ghosty <3
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>>7845808
for sure you look like a butch lesbian to me
shaving is fine as long as you keep up and voice shouldn't matter unless you personally want it different. It's pretty easy to train your voice, just takes practice.
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>>7845803
luv u pup
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>>7845163
wait a sec

is this the sparky who was a huge weeb

say it aint so, i liked them, what the fuck
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>tfw my ex congratulated me on getting promoted
>tfw despite losing his femboi looks he's still so damn cute.
>tfw he's married.
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>>7845926
I'll be your new bf
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>>7845622
>post a selfie
easy for you to say...
I'm an INTP sperg
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>>7845050
One of the percentage that is starving my self I've gotten used to the shakes and headaches. I've legit lost 10 pounds in the last two weeks eating once a day is superior.
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>>7845936
a-are y-you c-cute
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hi femgen im hanging out here for a while
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>>7846151
are you a tranny?

This is a trammy gen
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>>7846161
um
not yet?
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>>7845961
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbaka
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Guys my parents are really weirding me out just the other day my dad tried to get me to meet his gay friend and said he would be a good person to hang out with and go to the local gay club with. Today my mom meets a drag queen who passes as a woman and she said he dresses like a dude with beard and was shocked at how good he looks and now she wants us to hang out. Guys help I wanted my parents to be supportive but Jesus she even told him I've got boibumps.
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>>7846281
they're just trying to be supportive now that they think you're trans
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Twinks > failed trannie fembois tbqh


I love throatfucking my boys.
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>>7846281
dude you don't know how nice you got it. My parents fucking hate me. Be grateful they love you and wanna be supportive and involved.
>>7846161
frig off
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>>7846406
no

Twinks are better than "fem"bois.

"Fem"bois are trannies that failed at looki g feminine so they became anti tranny. Its fucking sad. "Fem"bois are just failed straights like trannies also. If you want to get with a "fem"boi just treat them like shit...in their mind thats considered internet alpha and they enjoy role playing. You guys are legit exactly like trannies.
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>>7846416
clearly salty that he's a twunk and too late for him to be a femboi
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>>7846416
>"Fem"bois are just failed straights like trannies also.
trannies aren't failed straights!
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>>7846434
Yeah bro you caught me i hate myself for being so hot lmao.

"Fem"bois are that sissy kid that always got beat up in gym class so they decided to refix their brain to make the pain into pleasure since they are huge pussies to defend themselves.


They are also assholes sometimes because "WE ARE NOT TRANNIES WE ARE BOYS x333" to hide their repression. They get surgery take hrt and act like repressed losers from mascgen just to hide their transness.

Btw if thats you you're ugly

>>7846442
They really are

They will claim "bi" always because they are born straighy men but since they put on a dress and try to convince everyone they are women they pretend they are into men to validate their "identity".


Trannies are also generally pedophiles whixh is why they transition to sneak into the womens restroom to look at literall baby diccs.
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>>7846460
>They will claim "bi" always because they are born straighy men
what if they really do want a bf?
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>>7846471
Why dont you think for yourself ya dummy.
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>>7846497
because that's my bf's job.
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>>7846523
You sound really ugly and retarded. Like a typical tranny.
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>>7845050
Fuck ive been having really bad chest pain and tightness on bicalutamide... If im allergic im gona kill myself because im allergic to cypro and spiro as well.
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>>7846526
>sound
>ugly
what did you mean by this?
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>>7846564
Well you're confirmed autistic. And super lonely by talking with me. Pathetic tranny.
Im sleeping gnight
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>>7844475
This is why I usually give people a kinsey scale, to see if they like guys or just femboys only.
Usually the ones who like the epitome of cute femboys I pass up on because I know they don't like me for who I am, just because I'm cute sexual material for them they'll one day pass up on.

>>7844890
>>7844931
My plan honestly was to take the full dose for 3 months or so then cut down on the Bica to half.
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>>7844680
>>7844510

That's the key difference though, the person in the Cuteboy story said how they weren't on hormones.
That's also why this general is split almost 50-50. Some people simply do not want to take hormones, and others want to. Each have their own reasoning and it's individual per basis.

Some people draw a line and that's where they don't want to cross, because they simply don't want to. Obviously those who take hormones have that line further than others, and those who are here bitching about trannies rrrreeeeee (honestly these past few threads have been almost /r9k/ like) have that line much more 'back'
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>>7844740
Is there any number estimates I should look out for? Like 2KG+ is stepping on this? Or is it more 5KG+?

I've changed the way in which I eat, so that I can lose weight and over the past 2 months I've dropped from 24 to 21 BMI that I'm afraid I'm losing too fast and I'm actually eating more trash food to slow down because my metabolism wont stop eating itself, it'd be good to know what the upper limits (speculative, of course) are so that I can know not to cross that when stuffing my face.
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>>7846434
Lardass
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>>7845153
i have eaten nothing but jelly beans today and i want to die, thank you for you concern
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I really hate "fem"bois


I look more fem and i dont even try...
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>>7845622
>>7846434
you two are really cute

if I have a somewhat strong jaw is being a femboy probably just not going to work out for me? I've been on hrt 4.5 months and I look a bit cuter but I'm starting to hate my jaw more and more everyday
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>>7845622
ugly
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What does everybody here think of face sitting
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>>7846434
holy fug desu

>>7846632
>I'm cute sexual material for them they'll one day pass up on.

I feel like this describes me and I dont like it, I genuinely feel like I prefer femboys to all other options but I struggle to see myself happily married to a 50 year old ex-femboy :/

maybe when im older ill like older people im worrying about nothing
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>>7848583
I like it a bunch.

Both being sat on and sitting.

I prefer throatfucking tho but having a tight ass in your face rubbing ya nose is pretty good also.
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>>7848583
getting a bj while having a qt butt in your face sounds like the best shit ever desu
obvious insta boner
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>>7846434
C-Carl Grimes?
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>>7848923
>>7849251
Cute boi butt in my face is a fantasy of mine along with some soft bondage but I don't like telling people about it since for some reason I'm embarrassed about them
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>>7846434

>mtf
>femgen

wew
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>>7848324

They're not ugly. They have good genetics to pass as either gender, fuck off. Ghostie's a nice kid, just a bit of a sperg sometimes.
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>>7849546
Hi ghostie
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>>7846460
>"Fem"bois are that sissy kid that always got beat up in gym class so they decided to refix their brain to make the pain into pleasure since they are huge pussies to defend themselves.
Straight lurker here. I was picked on partly for being small and weak, but years later i worked out it was also because i was really cute looking. Boys schools are like prisons. A lot of what passes as bullying is repressed attraction.
I got to art school and was swamped in beautiful young women.
Your explanation is too simple and a little miserable.
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>>7849597
you're right you got bullied because they were closet homos. Go outside ya pinhead manlet and expierence some sunlight.
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>>7845803
hnng
this is what a femboy should look like

feminine beyond reasonable 'normal' standards for guys but still recognisably male
super cute anon
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>>7846434
baby grinch??
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>>7849851
An anorexic guy with dyed hair is the epitomy or femboininty?
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>>7849871
....yes
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>>7849871
Effectively
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>>7849860
Kek
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>>7849546
Lookin good Ethan
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>>7849968
Thanks Ethan
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>>7849979
You're welcome Ethan
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i do like this new meme of mods aren't autistically banning my anon posts now.
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>>7848311
It really does detract. I have a very pretty face... except for my long chin. And to be honest the chin alone is enough to ruin the fem aesthetic.
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>tfw too intelligent to date a femboy
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>>7851073
>>7851073
>intelligent
>flat earth
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>>7846542
Please try asking a doctor. It could potentially be due to something else as well, although I do not know if that would be a good thing or a bad thing.
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>>7849851
thanks senpai <3
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>>7851111
I can't even tell what this is. A ringworld earth? A hollow earth?
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How realistic would it be for me to drop from 180 to 120 until the summer is over?
I want to start mones once I have a semi aesthetic body and can truly gauge if taking mones would be worth. But first I want to lose this weight by at least August/October.
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Why is this game so hilarious
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>>7845022
Hmm hmm.
Show me ur butts
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>>7853150
>waiting for your body to masculinize
just get on hormones m8, you can lose weight while on them, it won't really start affecting bodyfat/muscle till a couple months in anyway
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>>7853150
How tall are you?
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>>7853948
6'0, maybe a high 5'11

>>7853226
I probably should but honestly I want to wait a bit longer and see how I look if I get fit. As much as I'd like to be cute I wouldn't mind being muscle cute. But like I said it depends on how I look by then
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>>7854026
You probably don't have 60 pounds of fat to lose unless you're seriously skinnyfat, so part of that drop will necessarily be muscle. I'd say it's possible, if you're willing to stick to it.
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>>7845622
>https://www.16personalities.com/
ENTP "Debater" itt
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>>7853150
>How realistic would it be for me to drop from 180 to 120 until the summer is over?
it is absolutely unfeasible
There are 6 months (180 days) until the end of the summer.
You burn 2000kcal/day
You will burn 360000kcal by that time
1lb of fat is 4100kcal
If you ate literally nothing, you'd lose 90lb; provided that your body will not lower its calorie expenditure (which it will)

If you lose more than 4lb/month, you are doing something wrong. The only way to lose more than 4lb/month is by losing muscle mass. Such a fast weight loss will be extremely unhealthy. Play the long game, and reach your target in 1 year.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/5x9mys/i_feel_like_a_girl_wearing_a_disgusting_mask_of/

Another Mika post, looks like she left /lgbt/ and is on reddit now.
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>>7854692
that's not mika?
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>>7854579
Cool magic numbers, bro.

>You burn 2000kcal/day
Assuming absolutely 0 exercise.
>1lb of fat is 4100kcal
Pure fat, maybe. Body fat is ~3500 kcal·lb-1.
>If you lose more than 4lb/month, you are doing something wrong.
2 lb per week of fat loss is absolutely feasible.

You're also assuming all of the 60 lb is fat, which isn't possible unless he's a >35% BFP lardfat.
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>>7854692
Who?
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Guys, what's the best way of getting HRT if you're in the UK?
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>>7845022

I've gotten a slightly mature hairline over the past year or two, and while I noticed it about 6 months ago, I didn't do anything. Fortunately it hasn't moved much at all since then. It's like Henry Cavill's when he was younger and wasn't plagued with his current temporal recession. It's taking on a very very very slight V-shape.

Will Propecia+spiro turn it back into more of a juvenile hairline? Losses are recent and aren't so much "loss" as much as gotten thinner. There's still the original hair there, but it's thinning.
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>>7855451
the internet
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never had my eyebrows done professionally. thinking about going in and getting them waxed or threaded or wahtever, what should i say to the salon lady? do I bring in a picture like a haircut or what?
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>>7856818
Why bother, just do them yourself. It's not like it's that difficult
If you go to a salon they're going to give you female brows as well, so if you're not tranny-tier I would advise against it.
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>>7856842
Not sure I trust myself with that kind of thing. I basically want pic related but I'm not so sure how to do them myself
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Who epilates here? And how the fuck do I get over the pain?
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>>7856858
You buy a pair of tweezers and pluck.... It's one hair at a time if you fuckup then you're genuinely retarded sorry to say lol
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>>7856866
Make sure you heat the area you're going to epilate so it opens the pores. Steam works best.
Personally if I have large patches of hair I use sugar wax first and epilate loose hairs.
But inevitably after you do it enough the hair is so fine and flimsy that you can just epilate huge swaths of your body in like 5mins with not much pain. All the areas I usually wax or epilate are practically peach fuzz these days.
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I've been on Bicalutamide and Raloxifene for about 2 months now and I'm starting to see some things happen, but it suddenly dawned on me when in the shower.
When I get to be as feminine as I want, how do I go about stopping the medications? I can't just go cold turkey. If I keep taking them I'll become more feminine, perhaps rivaling that of a female too and that's not what I want - I just wanted to get a bit of femininity and eliminate some masculinity, but I still want some masculinity to remain because I don't want to be a woman.

Do I just stop taking them for a month, then go back on them and cycle in between constantly or what?

I don't want to "get to the end", I want to stop before the end.
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>>7857078
Where do those pictures come from?
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>>7857090
They originated on /r9k/ as part of a meme, there's at least 20 of them but I don't want to shit the thread up with them sorry.

I remember seeing someone dumping an imgur gallery one time of them, the meme is called "Pretty Princess Points" I think.
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>>7857124
I found the imgur gallery through google but I swear I see new ones I don't recognize from it.
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>>7857132
yeah because anons make new ones, dumbshitter
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>>7852502
i think its a hollow earth with heaven and the sun inside

and then a glass around earth that reflects the sun

i think.

>>7851073
u dedicated

>>7853150
2lbs per week is a good target, so ~50lbs in 6 months, id aim for under 135 by september 1st and see where you are at then
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>>7857143
Ok. What's the story for them? They are way too details to just be standalone images like every new Pepe.
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>>7857157
You talk like a nigger
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>>7857190
i am in fact genetically 1% sub saharan african thanks for noticing
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tfw you shave and tweeze your eyebrows and they look ON FLEEK a f
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>>7857078
if u stop then u slowly revert idk if changin cycls so much is good for ur body
also
readin wha all yall do o ur bodies is fucked
not the mones idgaf about those, the things like starving to be qt
you guys will look like ass waaaay before you look good
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>>7845622
Are you the boy who got work done with Spiegel? You look entirely natural and really cute, I hope that's proof that he's a good investment.
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>>7857746
Who said anything about starving themselves
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Looking for someone who will sell me estrogen and spiro

>Kik
RedMatzoo
>Email
[email protected]
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>>7857976
Wasn't it just very recently he got FFS? Thats some impressive recovery time
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>>7857998
Didn't Ethan buy from Spiegel? People said that was Ethan. It'd be good to know if he's worth buying.
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>>7846398
hmmmmmmmmmm...
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>>7858018
ethan did Spiege, not ghost
[spoiler] then how is ghost so cute [/spoiler]
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>>7858721
Lookin good ghostie
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>>7859078
Thanks Ghostie
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how do i become a trip/should i
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>>7859441
why would you want to be a trip? just to ruin the thread?
if you want attention, join the discord
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>>7859441
Please don't. We're turning into a shitty thread as is.
MtFG got so shitty it branched out to make a non-trip thread and honestly I wouldn't mind if we did either at this point because it's getting out of hand.

Discord / Trip Drama should stay in Discords, not be brought here.
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>>7859610
exactly
i run the discord in part to prevent this shit from ruining the thread
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>>7859576
doesn't everyone like attention? it's part of being human..
>>7859610
yeah anon seems the way to go c:
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Is my new hoodie cute~
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>>7859839
adorable~
w2c?
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>>7859860
Thank you :3

I think this one is the best deal: https://www.topshop.com/en/tsuk/product/rebel-hoodie-by-the-ragged-priest-6331924
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>>7859880
Strange, that link is returning a "Product not found" page
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>>7859891
Strange, works for me ... Just google "The Ragged Priest Rebel Hoodie" and you'll find it in a bunch of web shops ~
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>>7859839
That feel when I feel too old to wear things like that yet I look so young I have trouble buying alcohol

Them vampire agehax feels
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>>7859916
How old are you, anon? I still get carded even when buying cigs, and I'm 21
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tfw no young david sylvian fembf
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>>7845941
Youre losing water weight. I bet you believe those 'fat burning wraps' are real weight loss too
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>On Bica and read all these Bica wa rings yesterday
>later that day I had the worst feeling in my stomach
>not pain but just a dreadful feeling where you know something is deeply wrong
>start wondering 'is this how my femboy days are gonna end? For medical reasons? Is my liver going to be ok?'
>turns out it's just been so long since I had diahhrea that I forgot that it existed/ what it feels like
>shat my heart out and was a-ok
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miyaki is 35 and 6'1, and can pass as a really cute androgynous person. why do you always complain about not being able to get male attention, not passing, looking like a man beast etc. but don't put in any effort in to your appearance? inb4 it's just because he's asian.
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>>7859628

Why do you let trips in? If anything the discord is the only place you can prevent drama from occurring.
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>>7861080
i let trips into the discord because it doesn't matter if they're a trip if they're in the discord

as for ex-mtfg trips, that's another story
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>>7845941
you don't lose weight if you eat 2000+ kcal in a single meal, fatty
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>>7861105

Why do you allow drama on the discord when you could just get rid of people?
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>>7861241
there's no drama on the discord in the public channels, and starting drama is an actionable offense in the discord

why do people who aren't in the discord make these sort of comments? the last time there was serious drama two people were banned.
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>>7849302
On motorcycles!
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>>7861711
Do we have to speak? I'd rather type my voice is so not feminine, I sound closer to solid snake.
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>>7861876
what? are you joining or something
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do you have to be a certain height to be fem? I'm worried I'm too tall at 6'1", but at least I have a good BMI and can kinda pull off the androgynous look...
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>>7861711

Because the discord and the thread have overlap. You're fine, ignore the trolls Ethan.
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>>7861957
i don't normally join in the thread but meh
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>>7861895
Considering it..
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>>7862359
you don't have to actually join shit, you can just stay in the public channel if you don't like the people
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>>7861996

The threads are pretty shit minus the hormone discussion to be honest with you. You can't control that, it's just the nature of every general. You tried.
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>>7862572
still better than mtfg and gaygen
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>>7862582
Good shout, Aim low and avoid disappointment.
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bump, has anyone read the book Androgyny: Toward a New Theory of Sexuality?
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>>7862582

You're not wrong.

>>7862635

Maki, you're an idiot.
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>>7862582
People here often use that as an argument. But how exactly is /femgen/ any different, let alone better, than those other gens? No trips? No pics? That what you're going for? Same, identical discussion every single thread?
Less attention whores? Because the discord is fucking full of attention whores. Just because the thread is fairly "clean" doesn't mean the whole community is.
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>>7861919
nah that's a good look dude
I know a guy who's an andro model and is 6 ft 3, you're fine

>>7862676
is that pre-transition sphirex?
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>>7862390
I'm not that anon but how active do you have to be if you're eligible to get into the private channels? I think that anon was asking if you're expected to use voice chat at all
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>>7860092
Damn he's got a great style, how come didn't I hear about him yet. I look similar to him on some photos.
Thanks for posting, goes to my husbando collection.
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>>7860092
looks like blond sparky
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>>7862676
No, what's it about?
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>>7863904
you're not expected to be active and you're not expected to use voice.
maybe i should make a discord faq
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>>7857997
https://www.alldaychemist.com/
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>>7864139

Sparky is banned.
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>>7859929
I'm 28
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>ywn live in the omegaverse
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What are some essentials of femboy high culture? Any books, films, or art I should consume to really get in tune with the femboy essence? I've already seen and would recommend the Greek 2009 film 'Black Field' because of its connection to young femininity in a boy. Any other things like this? I tried for a Death in Venice a while ago but fell asleep watching it and couldn't find it again when I wanted to watch it; it's very hard to find in english on the internet, at least the original.
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>>7866887
weed and bootlegged vodka
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>>7866887
death grips
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>>7866971
but i abstain from all drugs (except bica) and sex (until i find my lifetime partner). now what
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>>7867006
buy jewelry?
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>>7859929
im 25 and i have a footlong beard and I still get IDed, america sucks dick

>>7866994
>tfw no femboy bf to cuddle with while listening to death grips and discussing zizek
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>>7867028
not enough money nor do i like wearing jewelry that much
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>>7866887
you'll just find a bunch of bullshit relating to ancient social hierarchies and power dynamics. Don't be a fag, forge your own path.
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I'm trying to find mens underwear that fits like this http://store.americanapparel.net/en/cotton-spandex-jersey-boy-brief_8315?c=Black%20/%20White%20/%20White and fucking cant

should I just be a faggot and wear womens underwear?
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>>7867112
wear trunks
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>>7867140
my favorite right now is american eagle trunks. They come in some pretty colors. Still wish they were a little bit smaller.
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>>7867212
get them in XS then
and desu if you're at that point you might as well go full boyshort
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what are you doing for halloween this year femgen?

pic related
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>>7867055
>people comply with the law
>america sucks dick
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>>7867345
While were at it, what are you all doing for New Years? Who doesn't plan that far ahead amirite?
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>>7867466
it's a wrong law.
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yo! I have a question about the guide on pic related

specifically about the section on hormones... it recommends fuckin 500mg a DAY of the herbal supplements, that's literally like a 100+ capsules to gouge down every single day

surely this can't be real?
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>>7867828
Herbal is a meme, you're best off with real HRT.
See >>7861898
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Should I stuff my butt on a Sunday night with a dildo or read a book?
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>>7867828
Herbal supps is stupid and a waste of your money cos the effects of many of them aren't tested anyway
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>>7867828
Nigga don't you know what a milligram is?
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>>7868058
a 400mg bottle of the pureira mirifica is about 60 pills

60 pills
for 400mg total

wtf the fuck
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>>7868104
400 mg per capsule, anon. Per capsule.
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>>7861919
Tall femboys are objectively the qt-iest femboys. I just wanna pick u up, throw you in bed, and make you moan, my dude.
sorry if that's too much!
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>>7868113
unbelievable, Im retarded
this was the answer I was looking for
thank you, anon!

>>7867897
if I am to be honest, Im scared of the stronger effects of actual HRT, Im looking to attain femboy physique precisely because Im too afraid to fully transition, not to mention the clinical risks of full-blown HRT just aren't worth it yet

are there really zero success stories around here of folks who gained noticeable feminizing effects with herbs and a good diet? even if they're not dramatic, really all I want is that smooth skin and wider hips
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>>7868268
>Im looking to attain femboy physique precisely because Im too afraid to fully transition
shoo shoo, transgirls need not apply
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>>7868275
threadly reminder that if you couldn't pass as a girl with hrt you're definitely too masc to be a femboy
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What's /femgen/'s opinion on smoking?
Anyone here smokes? Anyone finds it pleasing?
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>>7866887
Neon Genesis Evangelion

EPISODE 24: The Beginning And The End, or 'Knockin' On Heaven's Door'
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>>7869345
I rebel against my parents by not smoking and binge drinking, because they both do that. Smoking is really gross imo
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>>7869345
It will ruin your skin, desu. Plus, it's gross.
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>>7869345
pretty gross desu
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So raloxifene and bicalutamide are our best options if we want to feminine our bodies without breast growth? I'm new and wanting to do just this without sterilizing myself because I'm a straight fag
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>>7871086
sterilize yourself
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post the qtst femboy you have ever seen
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>>7871125
Feel free to kill yourself
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>>7871144
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>>7871233
literally who
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>>7871242
best boy
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>>7871233
>>7871259
Can he just an hero already.
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>>7871259
w h o ?
h
o
?
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>>7871286
only the qtest
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>>7871286
Moot
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>>7871242
>>7871286
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>>7871296
>>7871299
>>7871312
sorry, don't recognize anyone by that name
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>>7871321
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>>7871326
who's the guy in the black hoodie???
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>>7871331
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stay the fuck off my /fit/ you goons
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>>7861919
i mean as long as you aren't picky about only dating taller guys you'll probably be fine

the pool of guys who are taller than you crossed with the pool of guys who are into femboys is pretty damn small
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>>7873573
you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
[insert estro-twink]
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>>7873629
>estro-twink
Isn't a twink on estrogen just a tranny?
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>>7873670
here we go boys
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anyone else extremely self obsessed with their appearance?
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>>7868268
>really all I want is that smooth skin and wider hips

Smooth skin is probably possible. Wider hips are almost certainly off the table. Even actual trannies taking fullblown hrt very rarely get hip growth if they're older than 18, and even then it's only an inch or two usually.
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>>7875249
To the point I won't hang out with more than one person at a time out of self consciousness, yes.
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>>7867345
Killing myself senpai
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if I pay 500 for a personal laser depilator thing, would that make me a madman?

https://www.amazon.com/Gillette-Venus-Silk-Expert-Intense-Removal/dp/B019N3BMC4/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_4_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1488933218&sr=8-4-fkmr0&keywords=laser%2Bdepilation%2Bmachine&th=1
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>>7878495
not worth it. it's not permanent, it's not as good as an actual alexandrite laser, and for $500 you could buy cute clothes and mix your own wax to take off hair.
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>>7878495
Tiara laser is far better and cheaper to boot. An actual laser so max power should work.
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>>7879879
>Tiara laser
wot
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>>7879976
Tiara 4X laser, it's an older Diode design, but that's the same as the older lasers they used in doc's offices. So long as you have pale skin, you're fine.
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>>7880219
>Tiara 4X laser
you mean tria, fyi
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how do i starve myself non retardedly
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>>7880626
drink lots of water, eat fruit
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>>7881081
Do not eat fruit! Fruit is all sugar.
Drink sugar free drinks.
You'll lose like a kilo a day.
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>>7881105
>a kilo a day
if you flat out starve yourself you might lose a pound every 2 days. and eating reasonable portions of low calorie foods, like fruit, regardless of sugars, is the best way to lose weight.
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I didn't post here in like 2 years(maybe 3? my memory is quite fuzzy)
How active is the discord compared to the thread?
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>>7881676
Femgen has changed a bit in the past 2 years.
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this thread is cozy.
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>>7881123
I lose a kilo a day when I don't eat so please try again.
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>>7882529
is that averaging over a week or are you recording your weight each day? because that could very well just be a dip in water weight.
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>>7882534
I weigh myself every morning and it's at least a kilo a day at first. After two weeks it goes between half a kilo to a kilo.
But the first two weeks is at least a kilo a day.
It's not water weight. It's muscle and fat loss.
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>want to work out so I can be muscle femboy
>have to eat more so I don't die whenever I workout
>went from losing weight extremely fast to a much slower pace

It's so shitty because it honestly feels like I'm stuck and can't manage to drop weight.
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>>7882589
how often are you eating? if you're just fasting for long periods of time and not eating your metabolism will slow down. you can get a rough idea of what your basal metabolic rate is based on height and age and activity level, but usually for guys it's like 2000 calories, that's without doing activity. so if you are very active your BMR raises, if you're at a lower weight and less active it decreases. basically to lose weight you want to be under your BMR.
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>>7882618
I eat three times a day breakfast at 7-8, lunch at 12-1, and dinner can vary from 3-10. I usually work out after lunch.
The thing is before I started working out I literally just ate 2 meals a day and felt good, and I lost tons of weight. When I got back into working out I had to eat three meals because if I skip a meal my workouts tend to be shit.
It's something I'll have to figure out but it just sucks, I made tons of progress and now I've stopped making progress at a faster rate
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>>7882529
>>7882570
Physically impossible unless you're huge or working out every day. You'd need a daily deficit of 7700 kcal to lose a kilo of fat or 3700 kcal to lose a kilo of muscle every day.
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Anyone have that androgyny guide screencap?
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>>7882883
184cm natural weight is 65kg
You're wrong, get over it.
Starvation works
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>>7883085
You can't beat the laws of physics. If your calorie expenditure does not exceed your calorie intake by the required margin then you cannot lose body fat and/or muscle at that rate. You are losing water weight.
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>>7882924
>>7883255
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>>7881105
Not all sugar is the same. Fruit does not contain a lot of fructose while it does have fiber and takes longer to digest than processed sugary foods.

>>7882529
You lost almost a kilo in water weight, dumb fuck. Ever notice how the weight comes back quickly?

>>7883085
He gave you actual numbers in terms of how many calories are needed at a deficit to lose a kilo of fat and muscle. That is not open to debate, those are facts, and your only response is "you're wrong, get over it."
Starvation is linked to reduced brain volume, and you seem to be living proof of that.
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>>7883252
>>7883284
I lose fat and muscle. My entire body becomes skeletal.
Water weight is lost in the first few days, after that its muscle then its fat.
Stop regurgitating theory when I regularly practice complete starvation and weigh myself daily.
I lose a kilo a day and it's not just water weight.
Get the fuck over it.
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POST BULGE
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>>7883337
>Water weight is lost in the first few days, after that its muscle then its fat.
If that's what you think happens then you clearly don't even know what water weight is you stupid fuck, nor do you know how weight loss works.
Calories don't fucking disappear, stop pretending like you're violating the laws of physics. It is physically impossible for you to lose a kilo of fat and/or muscle in one day through simply starvation. Your body does not burn that many calories, especially not for a sedentary fuck like you.

>Stop regurgitating theory when I regularly practice complete starvation and weigh myself daily.
Hmm, proven science vs the broscience of an anorexic tranny's flawed methodology.
Keep in mind you just told someone to avoid fruit because "suggarrr! make youu fat! xDD," you do not posses even a basic understanding of nutritional science you disgusting lanky tree of a dunce.
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>>7845622

Nice hair line, hon.
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>>7883085
>>7883337
Starvation is bad for your skin and hair, as well as your brain.
You probably look like a zombie with gross brittle hair that's falling out and growing back too slowly, and dry, cracked, discolored skin. Probably have the mannerisms of a zombie too, especially considering your dogmatic aversion to listening to reason or criticism.
You're free to practice your retarded self-destructive habits all you want, but when you start encouraging others to do so you can fuck off and die because you've gone from stupid to dangerously stupid.
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>>7880626
keto is the only option if you want to go full on starve mode
because you'll actually fuckin die if you dont get fat and protein
eat like 2 eggs morning and night and take vitamin pills
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>>7882570
you fuckin MORON
more knowledgeable people are trying to educate you
the only plausible explanation is that you get dehydrated or your bowels empty out
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>>7882570
>>7884343

Watch 'Naked and Afraid'

They literally have nothing to eat for days at a time and sometimes nothing to drink.

And they lose about a pound a day on average spread out over 21 days
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>>7883417
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>>7880626
1. eat all your daily calories in a single meal after dark
2. starve only every other day
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Is it okay to unironically wear a weebshit tee if I'm a femboy?
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>>7885105
>Is it okay to unironically wear a weebshit tee if I'm a femboy?

No, it's tranny. Stop buying omocat. It's for girls.
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>>7885122
it's unisex for a reason
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>>7885122
There's people here who are on HRT.
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>>7869345
grosssss. i know it's a part of the edgy tumblr thinspo 'tortured artist' emo coolguy aesthetic, but my dad smoked and he looks awful. spongey, wrinkled skin and coughs all the time.

it's physically disgusting to smell or taste on another person, and it's effects are dangerous and unaesthetic. no go.
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>gaze upon my face under diffuse lighting
>6/10 cutie
...
>gaze upon my face under direct lighting
>2/10 subhuman piece of trash who should be hung form a crane

what did fresnel mean by this?
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>>7885727
A N G L E S
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>>7884448
i think you are trolling but with the way nutrition advice truthfulness decays... im inclined to think this is good advice, intermittent fasting is good for you and limiting the number of meals can help reduce total calories consumed

i think its literally impossible to troll with health advice because the "real" advice is mostly bullshit anyway
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>>7884448
heeeey, I do this too, but instead of full calories, I do 500. I eat flavored paper towels on my off days. Feels bad man. I'm getting skinny at least.
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Question for anyone know bicalutamide, can you still ejaculate while on it?
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>>7885727
everyone looks better head on in front of a mirror. you're being too hard on yourself.
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>>7887567
You don't even need testicles to ejaculate, my dude.
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>>7888911
well does it stop sperm production?
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>>7887494
i'm not trolling
eating multiple small meals a day decreases your metabolism and leaves you hungry 100% of the time
eating to satiation once a day or once every two days keeps your metabolism up and waiting until after dark to eat keeps you sharp during the daytime
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>>7889676
>waiting until after dark to eat keeps you sharp during the daytime
i can confirm that it is easier to stay awake on an empty stomach
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Post cute pics for fucks sake.
also if anyone wants my insta they can ask
>>7857976
that ain't me. All natural bitch.
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>>7890572
Nice shorts but in this thread we really need to see your face.
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>>7890572

You pass as female nowadays.
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>>7890678
Nowadays? Do you have old pics?
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>>7890650
who hasn't seen my face
>>7890695
i disagree but thanks i guess
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>>7890699

Your hairline will grow back, don't worry you will pass. Don't pay attention to the haters.
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>>7890707
this meme ends tonight
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>>7890723
>being this catty just because her transition went better than yours
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>>7890740
>transition
what's with all the trannies in the fucking thread
this isn't /mtfg/ or /tgg/
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>>7890707

no bully pls
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>>7890740
fuck off tranny
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>>7890699
>>7890750
you look like an annoying 14-year-old boy
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>>7890753
I'm not too far off of that.
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>>7890750

agp > trans

a true boy is agp
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>>7890771
We're all a little AGP, I won't deny it, I just hate AGP hons who think theyre trans.
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>>7890771
agp = wants to be a girl
trans = effeminate gay, femboy
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>>7890786
>trans = effeminate gay, femboy
fuck off
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>>7846434
Hnnng
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dypshoria does not mean u are a trans
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>>7890771
This might be a bold statement, but is Ghost... is he AGP?
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>>7890572
you may have forgotten somehow, but not everyone looks like you do and is so willing to whore themselves
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>>7890795
truth hurts!
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>>7890780
we're fucking not all agp ghostie

girls are gross, I just want to be a feminine boy
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>>7890912
I guess I feel sort of the same way, I feel like I'm mostly over mostly over my AGP, but cmon there's a lot of AGP in femgen.
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>>7890912
right >>7890786
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>>7890572
havent u got better things to do than whore your skinnyfat body
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>>7890885
>gets insanely mad at anything masculine


Yes they are. Also a stoner which is just autistic on its own merit.
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>>7891086
since when do i get mad at masculinity lol
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>>7891098

the meme about your hairline triggers you (desu, it would trigger me too and i think its a mean meme.)
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>>7891098
when nearly bullied me to suicide for not shaving my face.
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>>7891130
i think the meme is funny personally
>>7891135
lol when
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>>7891098

when you made ethan not allow any guys into femgen. idk how beast got in, wish we had more like him. its mostly nb/transgirl safespace. we need more cute masc men in femgen.
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>>7891153
most of them are pretty creepy. i'd let more in otherwise.
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>>7891153

trip on mika
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>>7891153
that wasnt my decision, and its not mostly transgirls. lol am I just femgens boogeyman now
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>>7891170
>and its not mostly transgirls
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>>7891156

r they? or r you girls just scared of a chaser? ;)

>>7891170

boogy(wo)man, mayb.
>>
Stop bullying Ghostie.

Thanks.
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*lets out massive fart*
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>>7891271
*inhales deeply*
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>>7891311
Seek sunlight ya pinhead
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>>7891463
you need my vitamin D
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>>7891488
^~^ maybe...
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New thread

>>7891685
>>7891685
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