Trans Help General #136

first for depression that stops me from functioning normally because I think I'm trans but don't know for sure

So i was on hrt legit a number of years ago, bad stuff happened and I attempted suicide, then ran away half way across the country. I'm self-medding now and want to go legit again soon, but i'm worried they're not gonna let me have hormones if I admit to the suicide attempts. But i also really feel like i need to talk to someone to help me regarding that. What do?

>>7763321
same

seeing a therapist but it's not helping at all, I don't know what to say. i feel like I've thought too hard about it and now I'm subconsciously second-guessing everything out of my mouth based on how I think they'll interpret it

>>7763593
self-med, go to a therapist, ask about what will happen if you talk about suicide attempts, talk about the suicide attempts. if you feel like they're stalling you on hormones, switch therapists

How do I know if I'm transgender or just have identity issues and body dysphoria

>>7764635
why go see a therapist if you're just going to do your own thing anyway
don't take up a slot that someone who actually wants help could use

>>7764635
can't they like put me in a psych ward and take my 'mones away?

>go between being very depressed and hardly being able to do anything but lay in bed
>and being emotionless but functional
>sometimes I feel really happy but I think it's just me feeling like what I would feel like if I was normal

how do I feel like a normal person ? Do hormones make you feel like that / better ?

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I've been daydreaming about being a girl since I was about ten, but it's always been more of a fantasy than realistic. I have been fapping to sissy porn ever since I discovered 4chan, and if I don't, I self insert as the girl. Sexually, I want to be a female no doubt.
However on a daily basis I have no issues being a man. I am not very feminine in my behaviour, nor very masculine. If working/studying was all I ever did, this wouldn't be a problem.
But then again, as soon as I'm left to myself I start to fantasize again, and I really wish for becoming a girl.
So how can I know if starting hrt is the right choice? I mean it would be a lot more convenient to stay male, but having a womans body is so extremely intriguing at times. It's been gnawing on my mind a lot lately. It's like I'm stuck right in the middle.

>>7765053
>Do hormones make you feel like that / better ?
yeah, hrt does a lot for mental health if you're trans. My mind felt sort of "cloudy" before hrt, now it's clear as day.

how to deal iwth facial hair before hrt?
what do you do when shaving only gives you a few hours of looking normal (with makeup), and the next day there's stubble that if you try to shave you end up cutting yourself

its the bane of my existence

Is a mtf dating a ftm a common thing? Most mtf I've encountered favor a man with a penis even though many men don't have one.

So I'm going to see an endocrinologist for a blood test later this month but I'm scared as shit of needles. Will I have to get bloodwork often?

>>7765079
Have you gone cross-dressing out in public yet? "Take it out for a test drive before you buy it" is probably the best way I can put my thoughts into words.

>>7767770
HRT won't do much to facial hair either. Maybe it will make it grow slightly slower or turn it lighter, but little if any will actually go away.

Pursue permanent hair removal (laser/IPL/electrolysis); it still works even before HRT. Do not wax, pluck, or epilate; that will reduce the effectiveness of the permanent hair removal which you'll inevitably be undergoing in the future.

>>7767857
I had them every 3 months until my dosage was finalised, and now they're going to be every 6 (or they're supposed to be; I'll try to avoid them unless I change my regimen).

I'm scared of needles, and blood. The first 2 times it was done I was panicking and uncomfortable during the process, and afterwards I was so nauseous I had to sit down for nearly an hour before I felt it safe enough to walk home. I actually went completely blind for like 10 seconds from the rush of blood to my head, amongst the sweating and dizziness and feeling like I was going to throw up. For some reason the 3rd and 4th times were pretty much fine afterwards, though the process was still pretty unpleasant (if significantly less so), so I guess you get used to it.

>>7767792
Trannies dating other trannies is common in general. The emotional connection and understanding and everything outweighs the physical limitations, and they're inherently empathetic/sympathetic towards their partner's discomfort with their body. Same-sex relationships where both partners are dysphoric over their bodies are similarly limited; 2 MtFs who don't like having their genitals touched aren't going to do any more than an MtF and an FtM who don't like having their genitals touched.

>>7767906
what can i do for the moment? just straight razor?

>>7767988
Pretty much. Or depilatory cream but that doesn't make it any shorter than a close shave and doesn't work well on thicker hair.

Hair removal clinics usually do free consultations. Might as well get started on the process as soon as possible, and then start the removal itself on short notice as soon as you can afford to keep going consistently (since it's better to leave minimal gaps between treatments).

>>7767988
Yep. It would be a good idea to experiment with a variety of different types of razors, like electric, plastic cartridge, single edge, etc. so you see which gives you the closest shave with minimal bleeding. I personally use a variety of razors every time I shave for best results.

>>7765253
does it help you function better and make you feel less depressed ?

>>7762186
How does fat redistribution work? Would losing weight be a detriment to the whole process? If so, is it better to gain or maintain the same weight?

Thank you.

>>7769352
Fat distribution is one of the slower effects of HRT and can take several years to complete.

>>7765253
like transkid trans? I felt better for a bit but generally still feel like shit... I don't know if I'm depressed in a way unrelated to GD...

>>7769388
It sadly never happened for me. :(

>>7769393
taking cypro as my AA and taking a B12 supplement

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I'm currently de-transitioning. Confused and made a rash decision, realized I wanted to be percieved as a girl more than I perceived myself as one.

So, I was on Bicalutamide and Progynova for about 2 months. I haven't had a lot of changes to my body yet, but my nipples have changed a bit (pic related).

They stick out a little bit more than I remember, and I can see them through my shirt if it's tight and not too thick.

Is it just going to be like that permanently, or will going off HRT reverse any of the growth?

>>7769555
In your circumstances they should return to normal.

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>>7769591
great, thanks
what's the point of no return, generally?

>>7769597
I would say six months. But it can vary a lot, so don't be taking any chances.

>>7769555
>realized I wanted to be percieved as a girl more than I perceived myself as one.
What's the distinction?

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>>7769627
I'm not even sure how to describe what i mean.

I'm not even sure if these are my real feelings. I flip back and forth on this shit a lot.

Really wish I could afford a gender therapist.

>>7767988
I use a personal permanent light-based hair removal device.
Much cheaper than pro treatments, but can take longer overall. IDK how safe it is for fully bearded faces though, I never got to the point where I grew much facial hair.

This is my specific one but there are many:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HX27AM4/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

Some others might be better for face, do some research.

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I'm not doing ok, cockfags.
I'm a guy and super depressed about never ever having a real vagina, always having wide shoulders and ribs, and just general gender dysmorphia HRT and surgery cannot fix. There's nothing I can do to change myself and I want to die. I don't want to transition into some half baked "girl" but I don't want to continue as a man. Everything sucks and nothing is good but "staying male" is easier than "transitioning" so that's what my life seems to be.
I don't even know why I'm posting this. Nobody can help me.

>>7770497
>I'm a guy and super depressed about never ever having a real vagina,
Don't feel too bad, life as a trans girl is nothing like being cis. Constant medication, knowing your surgery isn't the same as a cis girl, always being afraid of getting clocked even when you pass, knowing 99% of guys who like you are creepy perverts with their own issues. You are lucky to be cis!

>>7764648
Pls respond

>>7770497
>but "staying male" is easier than "transitioning"
One day you will change your mind on that and then you will beat yourself up over wasting a huge part of your life and a way reduced chance at passing.

>>7771263
Looks like a troll tho

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>>7770497

SRS is kinda gross, why don't you just keep your cock and just do orchi? Having a neovagina doesn't change anything in a person in my opinion.

>>7771408
Chasers and AGPs leave

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>>7771412
AGPs are the ones who get SRS anon...

>>7771408
I know this sounds insane, but I would like to date a straight man and have a normal sex life desu.

>>7771423
I don't see how you could be "trutrans" and not need a vagina to function.

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>>7771450
I guess that makes sense, but i still wouldn't do SRS just so i could prove someone i don't have a dick.

>>7771457
Neovagina isn't a vagina, snap out of your sick fantasy AGP scum.

>>7769153
yes

>>7769646
>I'm not even sure if these are my real feelings. I flip back and forth on this shit a lot.
Literally dysphoria waves right there.

I failed as a man. What do I do now?

>>7771628
fail as a woman

then accept your fate as a goblin and go troll the sewers for lost kids

>>7771386
I wasn't trolling, I'm just not good at wording things
Sorry

>>7770535
Th-Thanks.

>>7771386
How could you possibly know that?

>>7771408
SRS is super gross and I don't want to do any of this at all.

>>7770497
Why the hell take the easy way, especially if it makes you more miserable? A few shitty years of transition is worth it for a lifetime of being yourself when you're trans. Every little change feels like a small victory on the path to being you. Almost everyone has hellish challenges in their life. Its life, if you hide from the bad parts you won't ever see the good parts.

Maybe you should talk with a therapist, see if it may actually be a good idea for you or not.

>>7772879
But I can't "transition" into anything but a dude in a dress, which would be worse than just a dude in my opinion. I'd throw away everything I have if I could actually, really transition from male to female but I can't.

>>7772811
If you are trans or not is something you have to figure out yourself. I talked with a lot of trans people and watched videos and everyone had the same experiences and feeling as me so I just had to accept that I am most likely trans myself.
I mean
> identity issues and body dysphoria
Is basically all that trans is.

>>7772864
> depressed about never ever having a real vagina, always having wide shoulders and ribs, and just general gender dysmorphia
That sounds very trans and not a lot of people can repress forever.

>>7772903
You're kind of delusional if you really think it isn't any more than being a man in a dress.

I used to desperately try to "ur a man" myself out of it, big mistake. Actually have hope for happiness now.

You don't have to transition just deal w/ it in some way or it will always bother you. A couple therapy sessions aren't too expensive, even without insurance. Completely confidential too.

>>7772916
Ah, I was under the impression that if I didn't know from when I was a kid or something than I wasnt trans
At least that's what the person I've talked to recently said

5'2 100lbs but masc af voice

good fucking god

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>>7773152
According to this board, if you've ever thought about sex then you need to start taking skittles immediately or your life is worthless.

>>7771540
yeah my shit comes in waves and sometimes i get really fucking scared if im making a big mistake

>>7772903
You can transition into a more feminine male and not tell anybody. HRT will make you feel better about your body, and there's no need to socially transition when that will only make you feel worse.

>>7773743
QHI

Estro 2mgx84 is around 50 eur and Cypro 50mgx56 is around 50 as well.

+ shipping etc costs me abour 110 eur

Cypro will nuke your balls if that's good enough

>>7774030
nukes your balls as in eliminates your t production completely or pretty much completely

idk about srs but me personally i dont care because i think dicks are more fun to have

>>7774035
QHI, bear in mind tho its like every few months you have to buy this shit i think so its not that bad

I'm trying to prove to a friend that HRT changes your body scent. Where can I find a source that isn't just a blog or something like that?

>>7774087
Your dick doesn't run on testosterone, it's your testicles that send T to everywhere in the body. Erections are gotten by blood filling the chamber (totally other bodily function). When nuking T only the random boners dissapear, but you can still get a hard on (perhaps a little more effort).

shrinkage may happen, but it's not a lot. Oh and you'll be either fapping dust or clear liquid.

does castration stop balding? males in my family go bald in their 20s or 30s, is there any fighting it? will hrt and eventual castration stop it?

>>7775041
HRT alone should prevent it, and may even cause regrowth in recently balded areas.

>>7774625
High school biology textbook glossary, pheremones.
Then call them uneducated and pee on them to assert dominance.

>>7776374
You can go for progynova too, it a bit cheaper I think

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>>7776423
Well, it is estradiol valerate. So it needs to be processed in your liver(?) first where it gets split into estrogen + something. So if you already have a condition or drink a lot it might not be the best option.
However if you only take progy and cypro it shouldn't cause any problems.

For dosages: start with 12,5 mg cypro to see if any side effects occur, up that after a week to 25mg and add 2mg E. You can stay on that dosage for a few months. If you feel like you still get random erections go to 50mg cypro. You can up your E to 4mg after 6 months or so.
Higher dosage does not equal better results.
When you've been on 50mg cypro for 2-3 months lower it again to 25 and see if that's now sufficient.
If you want children you need to freeze sperm because cypro makes you infertile. You can look into bica instead if cypro but I have no experience with that.

>>7762186

I got the best trans help ever.


A bullet to the head. Short acting, cures dysphoria forever.

>>7776482
but then i cant watch my animes and shitpost on the internet.

>>7769555
eh, go for it
what have you got to lose? (serious question)

how long can I get away with 2mg of progy
I want to stave off doubling the cost of my meds for as long as possible

>>7775041
Male pattern baldness is caused by the action of a derivative of testosterone (Dihydrotestosterone/DHT). With low levels of testosterone (such as what you'd have on HRT or after castration) male pattern baldness will not happen.

>>7776476
Do you take 100mg of the Progesterone a day?

>>7777252
yes

>>7776445
>>7776380

im starting on 25mg cypro daily and 2x2mg estradiol daily

im like 100lbs tho so 25mg might be a little too little if you're heavier

>>7777484
but im a few days on hrt now and if i do 2x2mg e it'll run out in like a fucking month

can i just take 2mg daily sublingually or will that not be enough?

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How the hell do you come out to your parents if your a hon

I was sitting downstairs with my mom who was trying to show me long hair styles for men that would look good. I wanted to correct her and tell her so much but I'm so scared of it going horribly wrong. I've been on HRT behind their backs for 2 years but still get gendered male 95% of the time. It feels useless to mention being trans because of that, but it hurts to also keep it bottled inside. I guess I'm just venting

>MFW my testicles shrunk enough that they now stay in the inguinal canals without me holding them there

WWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>7777523
they already know

>>7777869
Cypro
€ 53.22 (EU) 56 TABS X 50MG
Bica
€ 18.49 (EU) 50mg x 28 tabs

Isnt it actually cheaper? Or do you need to take more bica than cypro?

>>7778093
You need to take bica forever. Cypro you only need to take for like a year.

>>7778093
Bica's effectiveness is hard to monitor, since it doesn't stop T production, while you can drop Cypro's dose over time.

>>7778344
They're exaggerating, you still need to take cypro, but you will need to take less and less of it as time goes on, because it atrophies the testes.

>>7777523
>my mom who was trying to show me long hair styles for men that would look good
She already knows. If she wouldn't she would tell you to shave off that faggoty long hair.

>>7779579
I don't think so, she talks about how some guys at her work have long hair and doesn't mind it on guys.

Most of my dysphoria comes from having male genitalia, and Cypro sounds like it could maybe help with that if it really does attack testicles.

If I did take it, what would happen, would it work for me?
Ideal case would be that dysphoria ends up reduced since my junk withers and shrinks. Would that be a likely outcome?
Would I need to go the whole hog and take estrogen as well or could I stay as a guy with essentially no package?

>>7780418
A lot of people say that cypro shrinked their things so it could definitely help you.
But you'd have to take Estrogen too because it is damaging for your bones if you have neither e nor t. It would make you depressed too.

>>7781756
>Can't just take Cypro as you'll end up depressed and weak bones. Would need to fully transition.
>Can't transition because I'd never pass, I'd lose my family and I can't afford hormones atm.

Kill me please :^ )

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>be AGP
>get dips of dysphoria now and again

what will haunt me the most, transitioning or not? I mean I don't hate myself all the time, just sometimes.

Is there a cutoff age for ftms? Can I transition when I'm 40 or is that too late and I'll never look right

I don't think I need to transition, but if I decide to later in life, is there a point I'll be too late to look normal?

>>7784146
You'll just switch when you hate yourself.

>>7784180
FtMs are 90% genetics and 10% how fat you can let yourself get without hating yourself. When you start basically doesn't matter at all past puberty, testosterone will always be able to do its thing but it can't unboob you.

>>7784180
at later ages you might reach a point where you'll forever be seen as a butch dyke. I think facial hair has less chance of growing well at later ages. Also if you start late you'll still have those feminine hips due to bone growth.

>>7780418
Honestly if that's what you want surgery is a better option than drugs.

>>7784219
>You'll just switch when you hate yourself.
implying the wise choice would be to transition now when I have the chance to pass, then?
I am really fine most of the time, being a man. is dysphoria worsening over the years the standard thing to happen, even when it's just AGP?

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I'm questioning whether or not I'm transgender, and I'm curious is it something that has to be diagnosed is just a thing that you can just be like without some doctor saying you are?

I'm not sure if I'm trans or not. If I self-med will I ever be able to revert back to being a guy if I felt like it wasn't what I wanted?

>>7784403
idk, you can break your leg and not be diagnosed with a broken leg but you still have a broken leg despite no one that's a doctor having told you "your leg is broken"

>>7784474

I detect quite a bit of smart ass here. A simple yes or no would suffice I'm sure.

>>7784403
My psych says that trans is mostly a self diagnosis. If you say you feel trans nobody can prove you wrong.

>>7784503
it's not smart ass


if you're trans you're trans, having a doctor tell you you're trans doesn't magically make it so

>>7784615
He's asking if a doctor can confirm that he's trans. Going to a therapist is a better choice, they'll have a better answer why you feel the way you feel, just be prepared that they will ask some very personal questions.

>>7784435
yeah, nothing is permanent until a few months or so.

>>7773202
thank god you can completely alter your voice with practice!

Hey everyone I have to ask for some advice. I've never talked with anyone or posted here but I am in a weird state of mind I think. I desperately wish I was a girl but I don't know if I have any disphoria or anything. I feel like a dude, but I just wish I was a girl. I have no problem with having a dick or anything and I would never consider SRS. I am in a long term relationship with a bi-sexual girl and she is the best and extremely caring and often campaigns for LGBT rights and I know she would accept me either male or female. I just can't bring myself to ever talk about it with anyone. I was seeing a therapist for depression but even then I didn't want to bring it up. I'm 28 so I feel like I'm past the point where I could transition with HRT and look passable. I'm scared of attempting a transition and turning out as some ugly chick. I'm a good looking guy and I don't want to fuck that up if it doesn't end up working. I'm afraid if I attempt a transition then I could never go back and end up in limbo where I couldn't pass as a male or a female. I just want to be a beautiful girl and I don't really know what to do with myself. I've never contemplated suicide or anything but I get really down about it sometimes. I feel straight since I'm not attracted to men, but every time I see a pretty girl I just think to myself about how I wish I was her. Do you have any advice on what I should do? Sorry for the long post but I don't know who else to talk to.

>>7789830
>I desperately wish I was a girl
>every time I see a pretty girl I just think to myself about how I wish I was her
>I've never contemplated suicide or anything but I get really down about it sometimes
these are already possible pointers that you do experience some sense of dysphoria (cis males are not jealous or envious of female bodies for extended periods of time).

>I was seeing a therapist for depression but even then I didn't want to bring it up
Do bring it up, ever thought that your depression might be rooted partly because you're trans?

>I feel like I'm past the point where I could transition with HRT and look passable.
>I'm 28
Nah, you still have a decent chance to pass if you put in enough effort. There's also ffs if everything else fails.

>end up in limbo where I couldn't pass as a male or a female
This never happens. if you just take hrt and do absolutely nothing else (clothing, mannerisms, hair etc.) you'll still be gendered male (although one with gyno). If you do put in enough effort it's more likely people will see you as a girl. You would need to purposely act and dress unisex to end up in gender limbo.

> I feel straight since I'm not attracted to men
you don't have to like men if you're trans.

>Do you have any advice on what I should do?
try stuff out (clothing, hair, makeup) and see if you feel better about yourself. Could also do a trial dose of hrt for a few months.

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>>7789830
>I desperately wish I was a girl

The important question to ask yourself is
Why do you want to be a girl?

The answer should help you understand better your course of action.

>>7790188
Thank you for the advice! I greatly appreciate it. It's honestly just nice to get it off my chest. I have a lot to consider. I'm trying to make absolutely certain I don't make any decisions I will come to regret. I appreciate your advice

>>7790253
I hadn't really thought about that. Most of my life I've kind of just brushed it off but my current girlfriend and a lot of her friends that are in the LGBT community have shed some light on it for me. I always assumed it was nothing really until I started hearing stories from other trans girls and finally thought to myself, "that sounds a little like me." When I was a little kid I always preferred to play female characters, (Still do in basically any video game that gives me the option, or D&D etc.) but when I got older I didn't really consider it any more. I dunno, I guess now that I'm further along in life it's got me thinking about how I see myself, and how I'd like to live my life

>>7782620
>claims they'll never pass
>trips as Alice

Choose a less hon name and you'll be fine

>>7779651
>2 years hrt
she still knows. her son didn't suddenly get tits and a more feminine face.

>be me
>12/13 y old
>struggling with sexuality and identity
>figure out I'm bi and trans (mtf)
>go to psychologist around age 14/15
>tell him I'm trans during one of the sessions
>psych doesn't know shit about it
>he googles some shit and tries to help me instead of referring me to a specialist
>get a lot of misinformation
>basically says bs like: I'm too late to start and will just become a guy with boobs
>gives me some links, most of them are with pictures of penisses cut in two during sex change operations on the homepage
>become scared of being trans
>decide to become as male as possible to fight dysphoria
>be 20
>second fase of puberty hits me
>face becomes more masculine
>not able to suppress dysphoria anymore
>tell parents
>make appointment with specialist psychiatrist
>she's a bitch that says I should just become a transvestite if I want to be a girl
>completely collapse
>barely come outside anymore
>fail most classes
>started writing and rewriting my suicide note
>be almost 22
>mum calls to say she accepts me
>she drives to my flat to come and get me
>we call another specialist psychiatrist together
>make appointment for October (really long wait lists here)

Now I have 8 months to crash again by fearing he might be an arsehole as well and that he'll say I should become a transvestite instead of a girl...

>>7796879
You clearly know what you want. Why don't you self-med, and thereby eliminate the possibility of being fucked over yet again (and save yourself at minimum months of waiting)?

>>7796993
Self medding is really hard in my country. We also require stamps from a shrink to be able to change name/gender on legal documents. Without stamps it costs a fortune...
It's also only a couple of months ago that they removed "stamp from doctor that sterilised the individual" from that list.

And customs goes through contents of almost all international mail, and a lot of meds get quarantined.

Parents, gf and friends are also really against self medding. Don't want to possibly lose their support

>>7762186
>>7796993
Plus, I'm a student living on €300 a month (after rent) so don't have money for self medding. But my parents are prepared to pay for my meds when I get them legit

>>7797096
>€300 a month (after rent
150 on food, 60 on HRT, even leaves you with 90 to have fun with

Do you think I will end up as a hon with facial feminisation and on hrt at 25?
My biggest fear is to always be labelled as a trans woman and not as a woman.

>>7762186
if my testosterone level was 6ng/dl on a dose of 200mg of spiro, do you guys think halving my dose would make it go up substantially?

Do I need a pill splitter if I want to take 25mg of Bica a day?

>>7799099
You can also use a razor.

>>7798924
How can I possibly spend only €150 a month on food? I spend about €50 in non-food stuff each month (cellphone, doctor, school books, soap, transit,....) And with the remaining €250 I last about 3.5 weeks when buying food. And I generally don't buy big brands unless they're cheaper than the store brand because of a sale. Almost only drink tap water. And I need to try and go to get a job again, because I lost 13kg in one month (weigh 67 kg now) because I'm not eating enough because I don't have enough money...

>>7799267
I take spiro and after 2 weeks I was fine.

>>7799267
Every one bashes spiro, I don't mind it. Is it really that hard to walk 20 feet to go pee?

hey /lgbt/ i'm starting to question my sexuality right now after watching a questionable porn video.

i've had a perfect track record of not being attracted to men all my life, however, this is the second time now that I got off to the same questionable video

basically what happens is this skinny white boy gets a big black bull to do a cuckold sesh with him and his hot girl. they get into the elevator and the bull starts roughing him up a little bit, punching him, and lifting him and pinning him on the wall by his hoodie

i describe this scene in the elevator in detail because it is here that i cum instantly as i see this big strong man beat the skinny white man in front of his woman

give it to me straight /lgbt/, am i bi after this?

>>7799311
I have to agree with the other anon. This sounds like a cuck thing rather than a gay thing.

>>7797054
so where do you live

>>7799368
Belgium

>>7799368
Belgium

>can ignore being trans for a little bit
>then get suicidal and plant to kill myself and cry for 1 - 3days
>after that forget about it
>it keeps happening

i wanna die

>>7797054
>>7799455
Idk anon, customs shouldn't go through packages sent from inside the eu. Have you tried ordering from qhi?

>>7799476
No, I haven't, but don't have any money to buy them anyways...
See:
>>7797096
>>7799173

But I'm confident that I'll pass when I finally get them legit. I'm just very stressed and anxious about going to a psychiatrist again since I have a lot of bad experiences with therapists in general...

What are some good exercises to grt rid of tummy fat? Either at a gym or home.

Also some good diets.

>>7800439
/fit/ has a lot of good information

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>>7799483
i hope you have a better time when you do go, i believe in you anon

>>7800579
Is there a particular post or something? Don't want to make a thread and get shitvon. /fit/ always worried me.

>>7800616
Well, as someone who browses /fit/, I'll tell you:
1. You can't spot train fat loss. Go running and eat less carbs and sugars.
2. See here: http://imgur.com/a/5nbmA

>>7800439
cardio

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>>7762186
Which type of diet should I follow for the most feminine and healthy appearance? Mostly in terms of skin health?

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mtf?
at about 6 i did the thing with the d and balls where you hide them between your legs and ever since have had a dislike of them.

then at some point i found out what the fairer sex looks like and over time came to be more than a little envious.

talked to a few dr's and the like about it only to get poked fun at.

have been at a constant war with myself about it and im feeling the pressure as im still in the age rage of hrt.

so im just wondering if i should go on the hrt now or continue debating until im 100% sure. id almost certainly have to go diy, with the aforementioned dr problem

i also have no desire to wear female cloths or make up stuff like that

sorry if im rambling a bit im a /x/ and /3/ person

>>7804981
Envying females and disliking your dick are pretty strong signs.
There's is no way to be 100% sure until you start transition and don't regret it tho. But the fact that you already did some research, asked doctors and now posting here would lead me to believe that you are most likely trans.

Stuff like liking clothes and makeup aren't necessary for being trans and a lot of that may come later when you start presenting female by itself.

I don't think that waiting will change anything. I'd suggest going on a low dosage hrt to see how you feel about it.

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>>7805151
first off thanks for a quick reply, you can only dream of that kind of a thing with /3/ or /x/

anyway i dont have anything wrong with female attire i just cant see me ever going out in it.

been lurking for a few weeks and im probably going to take 2mg of estrogen recommended by the diyhrt thread on here.

have had naturally low t since forever and the natural e is only slight higher then average so i think ill skip the anti androgen and spend the extra money on starbucks...

already on the path of a super basic white gal great

>>7805221
If I was you I'd still add a small dosage of AA s
If you have T in your body there's a chance that the E won't do anything

Is there any way to buy a sports bra off amazon reliably? I still have small-ish conetits and a huge ribcage and I can't find any fitting bras in my city, so I was thinking of just ordering them online, I still have to go boymode for a while so I didn't want something too catchy either.

>>7799173
>How can I possibly spend only €150 a month on food?
buy stuff in bulk, and freeze it
you're welcome

>>7762186
what's the difference between Bicalutamide and Finasteride ?

I've gone back and forth mentally about whether or not I'm trans (ftm) for the past several years.

I'm not bothered by being referred to as female, but I definitely forget my sex and often get confused when someone points out my female characteristics. All of my friends are guys, and I do not understand women my age at all, almost to the point of being mildly repulsed by them. I wear my hair short and prefer masculine or androgynous clothes most of the time. I find the idea of having a penis "normal" or even comforting, though I've also contemplated being what /d/ would call a "cuntboy" and find that acceptable as well. Anything non-female in appearance, really.

What makes me question myself is that I don't think of transitioning as possible or worthwhile for me. I have large hips/ass/thighs/breasts and have a tall stocky build-- 5'10" and 175lbs. My face is very soft and feminine. I just don't think I have the body for it.

Plus, there are occasions where I enjoy my curves and feminine appearance, so I can't be sure that I'm "really" a trans guy.

Are there any resources for finding a happy, gender-neutral medium? Everything androgynous I've found so far seems built for petite/lithe builds and Tumblrish aesthetics.

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>>7807074

here's some questions to seriously ask yourself: would you be okay living out the rest of your life as a woman? are you repulsed by your body on a regular (daily or every other day) basis? when you're hanging out with your guy friends, do you wish you were a guy?

>>7805603
lol where do you live that you can't find fitting bras? measure your rib cage and go here https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/sports-bras.html. then google sports bra (insert band size here)

>>7799463
gotta watch your liver when you're on bicalutamide. i think finasteride is a lil weaker for HRT? i take spiro and finasteride and apart from having to pee more often ive been pretty happy with the meds

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>M, 20
>strong desire to be female
>dislike of masculine physical attributes ranging from moderate to severe day to day
>majority masculine interests
>digit ratio indicative of testosterone in the womb
>watched a lot of anime growing up
>mild "AGP" fetish from feminization escapism
>bi, leaning towards females and feminine males
>hands, feet, shoulders, and ribs are fuckhuge, no chance of passing
>don't want to take hormones when I'm maybe probably sort of trans and could only be a femboy
>realistically looking for a woman anyways so it'd be better to be "normal"
>tend to dislike the "progressive" sort of people who wouldn't have a problem with a femboy
I can't formulate a proper question but I seek help. Feedback? Thanks for reading my blog.

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>>7804981
>>7805221
im living with some people that wont approve of this so

what is the name on the return address from us qhi orders?

dont what to spend that kind of money only to have it get tossed

pic related

I don't know should I fully transition. I'm really unsure about passing, I'm tall (6'0), broad shoulders and overall I'm not that small. Currently 20 and been doing hormones for about a year.

Could I just like do hormones and blockers just to stay more andro than masc? I'd much rather be andro than full masc but ehh my breasts have started to grow and I fear them. Ofc I could get them removed but I don't know.

Getting to the point of passing 100% seems too far off and unattainable. But it would kill me to not even be somewhat feminine, even if as a man. I don't know ehat to do. I don't want to end up as a hon and be ridiculed. I want to either pass perfectly or just be an andro guy I guess...

I'm a 24yo transwoman and I just started transitioning 2 month's ago. Am I going to get awful tiny cone tits almost guaranteed? Or could it just not happen? I'm hoping they'll at least look semi normal even if they're small.

>>7810815
boobs take a lot of time to grow, they'll look like cones in the beginning. progesterone after a year might help them round out if they're still cone shaped.

>>7811102
Yeah this. People here seem to be retards who can't comprehend that boobs look like puffy cones when they're growing.

>>7808930
It looks like you're trans but don't think you'll be able to transition successfully. You're not going to be a very good femboy either without HRT, so you might as well just take it and not socially transition (and consider doing so at a later date if you end up able to pass). Figuring out your identity and whatever takes a long time, and it's something you can do while in the process of transitioning. Right now, you're reasonably certain that having a more feminine body would make you feel better, so you should give yourself that (via HRT) and work from there.

>majority masculine interests
>digit ratio indicative of testosterone in the womb
>watched a lot of anime growing up
>bi, leaning towards females and feminine males
>mild "AGP" fetish from feminization escapism
These mean nothing as far as "how trans" you are or how good of an idea it is to transition.

>strong desire to be female
>dislike of masculine physical attributes ranging from moderate to severe day to day
These are clear signs of being trans. The only criterion you need to meet to justify getting on HRT is the discomfort with your masculine characteristics (since HRT improves that). You say specifically "female" rather than just "feminine", which further supports the idea that this isn't the kind of thing that's going to be dealt with just by "exploring your feminine side" (by crossdressing or whatever) instead of actually transitioning. Being a femboy is a compromise given your ability to pass, but it's better than being a masculine male.

>realistically looking for a woman anyways so it'd be better to be "normal"
Lots of people trying to talk themselves out of transition say this. Do you think you could hold down a relationship and be happy when you not only have to hide your feelings but also have an even worse body (much worse, actually, even if it's bad already) than you do now? By the way, girls want repressed trannies even less than they want unpassing trannies or "femboys" on HRT.

>>7811102
Not them but I've been on HRT for nearly 3. Is it maybe worth it to still try progesterone?

>>7811195
Years I mean, whoops

>>7811186
>>7808930
>By the way, girls want repressed trannies even less than they want unpassing trannies or "femboys" on HRT.
Not sure why I just said "girls" here; it applies to guys just the same and you said you're bi. No-one wants someone who's not being open in a relationship, not to mention depressed because of the problems they're hiding rather than dealing with too. You won't really be accepted any better that way; it will give the illusion of being accepted if you can keep it a secret, which wouldn't be "real" acceptance, and it's especially difficult to keep secret considering you wouldn't be happy living like that.

>tend to dislike the "progressive" sort of people who wouldn't have a problem with a femboy
That's a stereotype. There are plenty of people who'd be okay with it that aren't the SJWs or whatever that you're thinking of.

>>7808919
1) I suppose so, yeah. I could tolerate it, at the very least.
2) Somewhat. My secondary sex characteristics (higher voice, breasts, fat distribution) are more uncomfortable/alien than gross/repulsive. My actual genitals, on the other hand, are more repulsive to me.
3) Definitely. 1000% yes.

>>7764648
If you're at the point where you need convincing that you're not trans then you're probably trans.

>>7811457
>implying being trans isn't confusing as hell

>>7769555
Happened to me, they go back

What are the best surgeons for MTF SRS?

>>7811878
Suporn, Brassard, and Meltzer.

How do I get rid of jealousy?Its fucking killing me.

>>7812475
transition and become a girl just like them.

>>7808930
Femboy here, clicked on the wrong thread but liked your cat picture and read your post.

Girls hit on me more that I've been on hormones for a few years, funnily enough. Not all of them by any means, but if I'm in a crowd there will always be some girl eyefucking me. But I'm gay as fuck lol so it doesn't really help me at all.

I've also occasionally had female coworkers crush on me hard, which is funny because they knew I've got boobs and all sorts of other shit since they were around me every day at work and that shit just doesn't hide in a work uniform without some binding.

>>7762186
Who are the best FFS surgeons?

>>7814199
Deschamps if you can afford him, and facial team if you can't. Don't get forehead work from FT, and don't get a nose job from either of them.

>>7814459
What what if you need both brow and nose to be done?

>>7814733
You get it from someone who specializes in it, not a FFS surgeon

>>7814459
Just looked up Deschamps. Jesus christ, $50k+ for FFS? How much better is he that it's worth that much?

>>7814950
He's just the best there is. He's the one you go to if you have a lot or money or really care about your face.

>>7806125
I did that last year.. I have a mini fridge with a pico freezer.. it fits like 8 liters max..
So can't really buy that much in bulk. Plus I like cooking and veggies lose most their texture and taste after being frozen.

>>7815060
What about him makes him so good? Why is he the best?

>>7815253
Because he is aggressive and makes real changes to your face without butchering it. He has tons of experience and understanding of faces, and really cares about what he does. I don't know much about it, but I think he's also being mentored by one of the first FFS surgeons (don't know if he had a good reputation or not)
His reviews are also extremely good.

Most other surgeons play it safe and barely change your face at all, wasting your money.

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Hey, sorry i'm really new to all this, I was just wondering if someone could help me - I'm 19 years old, 5'2" in height, and already have quite a fem body, but I want my face to look more feminine, whether make up and a certain hairstyle would sort me out, I don't know, i'm clueless in this area. hope the body pic helps :/

>What kind of effects does HRT have on the face?

>How much do they cost?

>What age is too old to start taking hormones?

>Is there any chance I could go down this route and end up as some weird inbetween without a way back?

>What size titties can you get/how long will they take to come in

>Is there only point in perusing this if you're fully committed to giving your dick the guillotine at some point in the future

>How can I be sure this will affect me positively

>Is there actually hope for MtF's in this world regarding genuine relationships, or does this site just make it appear that way, because I'm quite content being by myself, however I wouldn't be if it was because I was Frankenstein's monster :O

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>>7815765

>What kind of effects does HRT have on the face?
softens skin and potentially the features of your face. it varies from person to person how much it effects you.

>How much do they cost?
it varies w/insurance and country but they're cheap

>What age is too old to start taking hormones?
what you're really asking is what age is too old to pass. take hormones asap. some people have started transitions in their late twenties and early thirties and pass, but it's rare.

>Is there any chance I could go down this route and end up as some weird inbetween without a way back?
yes, after a couple months on estrogen and blockers you have fucked your sperm production. sperm banks no longer will take your donations and you can't undo it.

>What size titties can you get/how long will they take to come in
limit is probably somewhere around 32C but most people end up as small b cups. it varies how long growth takes

>Is there only point in perusing this if you're fully committed to giving your dick the guillotine at some point in the future
just my opinion, but don't fuck around with hormones if you don't actually want to be a girl. figure out what the fuck you want to be and what you want to do with your life before irreversibly changing the chemistry of your body

>How can I be sure this will affect me positively
you can't be. do you experience dysphoria on a daily basis? do you find yourself wishing you were a girl all the time, and are you jealous of women in social situations? would you be okay with being an old woman?

>Is there actually hope for MtF's in this world regarding genuine relationships, or does this site just make it appear that way, because I'm quite content being by myself, however I wouldn't be if it was because I was Frankenstein's monster :O
yes

there's a difference between being a femboi and being trans

if im 6'3" should i just kill myself

>>7784507
This actually makes me feel a lot better about going to therapy soon. I want to have a productive discussion but at the same time I don't want to be forced to meet a high standard of being a "trutrans". I guess it's all about what you think works best for you.

>>7813606
I'm already on it,and I'm not sure,but I think hormones worsened it.

>>7817186
well, once you start looking more like a girl yourself, the jealousy disappears mostly

>>7818839
Lmao no. Take it from me, almost a decade on E, you'll never hope to see, the end of jealousy.

so general consensus is that good looking man becomes good looking girl, face wise. I consider myself fairly good looking, above average at least, but I'm turning 27 in a couple of months. Has the ship sailed already or is it possible to actually not become a beast? Primarily in the face aspect, body I'm all good.

>>7819296
If your face is manly, HRT isn't going to do anything. You'd need FFS to change that. Also at 27 body changes besides some breasts and a little fat distribution are done. No bone structure change

>>7819296
>or is it possible to actually not become a beast
You won't end up like that if you don't pass. You'd just look like a more feminine guy. You only look like a hon if you try to present yourself as female unsuccessfully, which you don't have to do; you can get on HRT and hide it.

Good body and bad face is better than vice versa, since you can get FFS (which, while very expensive, is always technically possible; you can't change the bone structure of your body).

>>7819498
>>7819454
Thanks for the answers. I am looking around on reddit and shit and every one that claims anything in line with "hrt works fine at 27 or older just look at me!" all look like garbage piles. It's depressing.

>>7818848
because everyone has the same experience as you right?

Callen Lorde says that they're only accepting patients in their Bronx location, does that apply to trans services and/or are there any other good informed consent centers in the NYC area that are accepting new patients? (FTM, so I can't DIY and I don't want to have to beg a therapist for the man juice.)

>>7820751
>beg a therapist for the man juice.
that sounds so wrong lol

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My lesbian friend sent me this, she's the only person IRL that knows I'm trans, how am I supposed to interpret this?

>>7820840
>how am I supposed to interpret this?
She's a good friend?

>>7820840
it means she wants sum fuk

in reality probably more like virtue signaling

>>7820849
Yeah, we're pretty close I'd say.

>>7820854
What do you mean?

>>7820861
what i mean is she could just be saying it so she can feel good in a superficial way like shes a good person without really doing anything good, kinda like sharing some shit about transgender people with good parents and acting like they really support trans people when really they understand jack shit and also dont really do anything to help them.

>>7770497
My thoughts, basically.
But hell, I'll at least try this transition thing before I end up offing myself.

>>7820876
I really don't think so, she's the most LGBT person I've ever met, if that makes any sense. She's really educated about these types of things.

>>7820840
Lol sounds gay as fuck, but if you're pre-transition, she's probably not attracted to you. Probably just a good friend.

>>7820965
Yeah, I know that much. She's got me all confused. A

>>7818848
Do you pass at least?

>>7821309
>decade on hrt
>still roams around on 4chan.

i doubt she passes.

/x/regular here, lurked this board a few times in the past been on here all day today. today I've had a horrible day constantly on the verge of tears clenching jaw constant anxiety tightness in cheast and a couple panic attacks. A month ago I stopped smoking weed and lowered my anti psychotic medication to half dose been off the anti psychotics totally for 3 days now there's a lot of reasons i was smoked and was on anti psychotics but I'm starting to think one of the reasons that I never realised b4 was to repress being trans. I've fantasied about transitioning in the past but I always believed it'll never happen would panic throw out my CD wardrobe and go on being a man. But this time is different I think I'm starting to accept the idea. Last night I came out to my friend and he was a lot more accepting didn't mock me like I thought he would which is encouraging. Since quoting weed I've started dreaming again and in them I have a female body and I'm happier than I remember ever being in real life then when I wake up I'm depressed and lay in bed for hours trying to reenter the dream I've been depressed for years maybe this is why.in waking life basically since I stopped anti psychotics I feel /imagine my body being female which I never had when fantasising in the past. I'm thinking of speaking to my psychologist about this maybe I'll show them this post is going tobe hard to verbalise. Sorry for the rant I've got no one to turn to I've come out to my only friend and being from /x/ I figure here's the best place on the net to reach out I don't want to tell my sister's until I'm positive this is what I want and I'll follow through mums already disowned me for unrelated things in the past and I think I told dad 4 years ago during my first psychosis and I got Locked up instead. B4 someone says just take your meds since quitting weed / meds the voices have stopped my minds a lot clearer and I'm more motivated regarding my studies its just wishing tobe female that's back

What would be the benefits or negatives of combining HGH with estrogen and androgen blockers for a MTF?

I assume that the free flowing estrogen would be more easily able to latch on to receptors causing things like bigger boobs and what not.

What would be the downsides of it? Dosage would be nowhere near what bodybuilders would take.

Has anyone does this or has any articles on it? Seems like a great way to get pubescent levels of growth.

>>7820840
have you been noticably depressed lately? sounds to me like she's worried about you

>>7823632
what is the question here? your formatting doesnt help.

>>7821309
In the sense that I never get misgendered by strangers, and guys hit on me whenever I go outside, yeah. But what does that even matter?

>>7825772
Not really a question just a rant I had to tell someone sorry for formating on phone.
I guess some questions would be.
Will I ever be happy as a man or should I transition?
I'm 25 and worried if I do transition I'll look like a guy in chicks clothes is it to late for me?
Every time I've forgotten about it the feelings have come back stronger this isn't going away is it?

>>7825928
>I'm 25 and worried if I do transition I'll look like a guy in chicks clothes is it to late for me?
Just don't wear chick's clothes and no-one will notice.

>Every time I've forgotten about it the feelings have come back stronger this isn't going away is it?
That's normal, and no, it isn't going away. And by extension:
>Will I ever be happy as a man
You won't

Get on HRT; make your body better and stop it getting worse. No need to tell anyone. Breasts might be hard to hide if they get big enough, but that's all that's going to be a problem. That's worth it since you're not going to have even a chance of happiness without transition (people aren't being overdramatic about that; there's plenty of evidence).

>>7826007
Thanx I'm going to book an appointment with my psychologist hopefully they refer me to a gender therapist and get the ball rolling

>>7824146
Well yeah, I was diagnosed with chronic depression not too long ago. She probably picked up on it.

Embarrassing question, but I've noticed recently that when I masturbate there's a lot more fluid that comes out than there used to be.

It still seems mostly clear, but I'm worried this means my dose is too low and my testicles haven't stopped producing this stuff. What does increased fluid mean on HRT?

What do I do when I want to be a girl but also know that I will never actually be one?

Also how can I get out of the mentality of "straight trans people are just gays wanting to be straight, gay trans people are just straight people with fetishes"

>>7829043
>What do I do when I want to be a girl but also know that I will never actually be one?

frame it in your mind as "this is the next best thing" and besides having ovaries it's pretty similar.

>>7829043
Realize that everyone gets old/fat/wrinkly and becomes ugly and then eventually dies. As stupid as "you only live once" sounds it's pretty relevant when it comes to something like this. It might as well be lived how you want to. People can think what they want, the joke will be on them in the end.

Any life lived wondering what if you'd had the courage to do something will be one with regrets. Just as much as any life spent too much on comparing yourself to others will be.

will hormones help or is it better to just try to ignore it until I kill myself or something

>>7829518
are you really this retarded?

how do i practice voice without feeling awful and wanting to tear my throat out
I used to like singing but i dont do it anymore even when theres nobody around cause i cant hit the high notes and it sounds unmistakably like a man's. or maybe I always hated and just didnt' notice til a few years ago idk
Anyway I figure since i'm fucked in basically every other aspect i could at lesat try to work on my voice, but is there a better way to go about it than squeaking horribly then feeling stupid and embarrassed and not making any noise for the rest of the day

>>7829518
>will hormones help or is it better to just try to ignore it until I kill myself
>why do people take hormones if it doesn't work, better kill myself
wew lass

>>7831269
practice makes perfect with voice. it just will sound like shit for a while before it gets better.

I'm almost to the point of throwing in the towel
but I don't want the acne, the balding and the relentless sex drive to come back

maybe I should just cut my balls off and let the chips fall where they may
I fucking hate being a guy, but I can't be a girl either

Is it true that cypro can also act as a progesterone kinda? I'm switching from spiro and I've read in a couple places.

Modifying hormone levels can mess with apetite right? I went up from 4 to 6 mg of estradiol, and around the same time it got like 5x harder to resist night time cravings. I seem to remember something similar when first starting HRT, but I wanted to double check.

>>7834650
Yeah

>>7833170
it does

Guy what should my course of action be?
>Doctor doesn't want to give me hrt out of fear of family history of blood clots
>I know for certain I dont have and blood problems
>Doctor has been trying to set me up with a hematologist but none of them have been replying for some reason.
>Impatient me slowly creeping to honship thinks its worth the risk to find estrogen online and use my well being afterwards as proof of its safety... or die trying
> Realizes i dont even have to do that and can just SAY i did.
What do you guys think? help me make a story I could lie to my doctor about taking estrogen and being fine so that he can actually prescribe me?

So I feel completely lost. I want the fucking beard on my head to dissapear. I've done all the research. I've emailed around for rough quotes from a bunch of laser places in the area. But, I have no idea how to make a decision.

I don't have 500-600 dollars to throw away on something that may do nothing at all in the long run (or maybe even the short run). I can't find anywhere online somebody saying THIS place is THE best place. I don't want to have to trust the clinics because I feel like they're just going to try to sell me the service even if I'm not right for it. Is that justified? How do I know if laser or electrolysis out the gate is the right path? Who can I talk to for the help I need? Pride groups? Would somebody here maybe know a place if I said where I was? idk I just feel like a lost and hopeless sasquatch

>>7842013
>How do I know if laser or electrolysis out the gate is the right path?
If you have dark hair and light skin laser is good. Otherwise electrolysis is better. You'll be given an assessment of your skin/hair type as part of your consultation.

>I can't find anywhere online somebody saying THIS place is THE best place. I don't want to have to trust the clinics because I feel like they're just going to try to sell me the service even if I'm not right for it
You want facial hair removal, and they're offering that. If you're worried about the particular type of treatment being wrong, then find somewhere that offers both laser and electrolysis, so you know you're not being pushed into one or the other because that's the only one the clinic does.

>Would somebody here maybe know a place if I said where I was?
If you're in England then I can say the clinic I go to is good.

>>7842112
So you're saying that places don't tend to lie in consultations? I have a dark brown hair and fairish skin so that makes me worry slightly less but still. Why are there so many out there that talk all about it doing nothing or w/e

>>7842318
>So you're saying that places don't tend to lie in consultations?
I don't have any evidence on the matter, but why would they lie? I guess unscrupulous clinics might deliberately give you something ineffectual so you're stuck there longer, but that could just as well convince you to go somewhere else instead. And as implied before, if a clinic only offers one method of treatment they're incentivised to treat you with it regardless of your suitability (even so, if you're clearly unsuitable, like if you're black and you come in for laser, they're not going to bother), though the right thing to do would be to recommend another, more suitable clinic.

>Why are there so many out there that talk all about it doing nothing or w/e
There are lots of different possibilities. Different people respond differently. Sometimes some hairs are stubborn and require a different approach to others to see any results with. Progress is very slow and people may have expectations to the contrary, meaning that they see something is wrong when it really isn't. The recipient might not be preparing themselves properly before their session (shaving to the right length, not tanning, etc.). It's possible the clinic is dong something wrong, such as not using a strong enough setting on the machine. In all cases problems should be discussed with the clinician and some solution sought.

>I have a dark brown hair and fairish skin
That's fine. I have it too, and it's been working for me so far.

>>7842392
So you'd recommend just picking one of the better reviewed places for a consult and just stomaching the cost because worrying about it is unwarranted?

>>7842423
Yes. I don't see any other options. You can just pick a cheaper one that's easy to travel to; they're all probably fine and you don't have much to go off in terms of reviews unless you can find some that aren't cherry-picked. If they're bad you can go somewhere else. Generally consultations are free, so you have that opportunity to assess the clinic before you actually start treatment.

Also, try to look for somewhere that lets you pay session-by session rather than in bulk. That way you can back out. It's also a show of good faith on the clinic's part.

>>7842466
The only place around here that does that is like 230 a session, whereas everywhere else is 5-600 for 6-8 session packs. I don't think that's really worth it is it?

>>7842550
No, it's not. You should go for one of the cheaper clinics. Like I said, they're probably fine, and you'll have a consultation first.

>>7841867
could also get a second opinion with another doctor.

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What's it called when you're male but want to be female for social purposes, not sexual or physiological purposes, but wouldn't necessarily mind the latter two as well if it was part of the deal? Mostly wondering because I'd be unable to pass if I transitioned and none of the alternative treatments for actually being trans like taking HRT but living as a man really apply to my issue. It causes me a great deal of distress, especially whenever I am excluded from female social situations or put into exclusively male ones.

Back on my anti-psych meds due to being debilitated from dysphoria. Idk if I'm trans anymore I regret shaving my beard. What do stay on the antipsychs or come off them and transition?

>>7844157
>What's it called when you're male but want to be female for social purposes
Non-sexual transvestite/crossdresser/drag queen?

>>7844513
anti depressants dont make you suddenly not trans. take hrt and see if it lessens the depression/psychothic

>>7844157
>What's it called when you're male but want to be female for social purposes, not sexual or physiological purposes, but wouldn't necessarily mind the latter two as well if it was part of the deal?
HSTS

>>7846539
>HSTS
>HTTP Strict Transport Security
I always wanted to keep transport protocols secure

Maybe so but they do make repressing a hell of a lot easier

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what would be a good way to transition to female undergarments?
i've always disliked change

>>7846509
Ehhh, it's not that I want to dress up like a woman, I just want everyone to think of and treat me as a woman. If that makes any sense. I suppose it probably doesn't.

>>7846539
HSTS?

>>7846580
what? you put them on?

>>7846580
If you don't feel the need to, why bother? Keep wearing male clothes under your female ones if they are more comfortable. If you want to change over, get some plain and comfy female ones and switch between them and your male ones for a while. Alternate between them, or, one for going out and the other for in the house, etc.

>>7846580
Boyshorts with a wide crotch are best for tucking.

>>7846584
>not dress up like a woman
>be treated like a woman

yeah society doesn't work like that yet. People won't start gendering you female if you stay male.

>>7846613
Not what I'm saying. It's not realistic to describe myself as a crossdresser when I have no interest in crossdressing. I know society will never ever think of or treat me as a woman no matter what I do which is why I'm trying to figure out what I am so I can deal with the problems described in my original post. Trans people can just take HRT and stay "boymode" but I can't do that because that's not the problem for me.

>>7846590
thats what im probably going to do im more of a tomboy anyway. i think i might be a little judgemental thinking all mtf must wear lady garments. but as i already wear nothing special briefs if i found something that was basically the same thing aimed at females why not yeah know.
>>7846603
ive also heard tell that hipster cut is also well suited

>inb4 get the 4chan janitors
I live in an extremely anti lgbt household and anti lgbt area (kentucky) and I'm not gonna transition while still under my mom's roof. (I'd probably get harassed so much that it would probably outweigh the self hate of dysphoria) My question is what age over 18 is the optimal time for transition? Developing a masculine jaw would murder me and I would look like a cross dresser for the rest of my life.

>>7847986
>what age over 18 is the optimal time for transition

As soon as you can is the most optimal. I'm not sure if I'm understanding you perfectly, but if you need to wait until you turn 18, then start on your birthday. Do not wait any longer than you absolutely have to.

>>7848058
my phrasing is kind of shit but I'm glad the point got across. thanks anon desu~

>>7848058
>>7848083
Should she consider self-medding in secret rather than doing nothing while waiting?

>>7848128
They're talking about buying hormones off the internet from anarchocommunist islands without things like the FDA. If you're in the US it works no problemo, just pay by echeck. If you're in the Fourth Rei- I mean the European Union or England it'll probably get siezed by customs.

>>7848114
I'm not even sure how I would self med in the first place. Im guessing talking with a shrink and privately discussing meds is what you're talking about but I'm not sure

>>7848152
self-medding usually just refers to buying hormones off the internet

>>7848151
>If you're in the Fourth Rei- I mean the European Union or England
Five star post *****

>>7848151
idk anon, self meddling sounds expensive and I don't have a stable income, so if I run out of money ill just produce enough testosterone to replace it (I think that's how it works at least) also id much rather get confirmed meds. I don't want to end up in a situation where I'm taking figurative snake oil tablets (also nice jok,e anon)

i appreciate the help guys, but im probaby just gonna save up money when i reach the legal working age then use that to transition once i reach college (i guess ill have to settle for shaving my legs, painting my nails, and skipping red meats for now D:)

>>7848190
>>7848272
Look into anti-androgens at least, to stop your body masculinizing. Here's the HRT thread >>7793919

>>7848380
tysm anon!

>>7848389
yw! When you see bad things said about agp's, remember me!

I'm new, still lurking, pls dont yell at me

Idk if I'm trans but I am 23 and have started to crossdress and keep my body shaved

A fantasy and desire I keep having is getting my balls removied by orchiectomy, or at the bare minimum castrated in some way.

I almost went through with it having my ex crush the chords, but we got into a fight and i had her gtfo of my life for good...

Many days I want to pass, others I'm fine as I am... i'm not sure if I'm trans or just a freak, can anyone give advice?

Pls no bully
Hello.
I do not know how to write this, but I will give it a try.
Intro:
I am 22 years old,and I am currently living by myself.
5"9 tall 220 pound slob :(.
I do not know what came first, the sad thoughts, or the wish to have been born a woman, or the feeling of wrongness I felt in not being a woman.
I grew up quite outsiderish, with no really close friends, most of my time through grade school,
I just kept by myself and read fantasy books and played video games.
This is where it gets tricky...I think that I should have been born female.
I do not know when this thought first came, but it was clear in my mind that i wanted to at age 19,
and looking back i may even have wanted it before that. when i was 14-17 i tried to do masculine
things like getting stronger in the gym lifting weights, all to seem cool and macho(came to like the feel when going for 1RM, hated the muscle building and all of that :( )
I dont know if I really would like to be a woman, or am a woman in my mind(whatever it is), though or it might be my mind playing tricks, because sometimes life feels so wrong and i think it might be because i
was not born as a woman and then i start crying and sometimes self harming, (i hate my body). And at others time im much more apathetic about it
and just depressed about life in general.(the only thing that makes me not focus on life is playing video games and reading books they are my escape
but i always feel kinda sad about that as life can never be like a video game or a book.
Cont. below

>>7849824
But even tough i am not sure, i decided to take a step, so i have been on DYI spiro and progynova for 4 months now(started with 100mg spiro 2 mg progy, upped to 200mg spiro 4 mg progy after 3 months.)
The effects of the hormones are somewhat not what i have expected, it would expect to cry more i actually have less depression issues i cry about but can feel im more emotinal and crying when watching movies etc.
I also bought some female clothes(where shoulders really did not fit and rendered it useless, my shoulders are awfully wide, even the size 5XL, my shoulders are too wide and my arms too big)
and cheap china makeup(tried to but it on twice but i was so horrible at it that i have not done it since, also have sensitive skin and although there was no bad reaction i know i am pushing my luck using cheap products)
I really just wish i was never born, or that I would have the guts to kill myself.
Just felt the need to tell someone at least about my life, since i can tell no on else,
parents know about the self harm(some of it) although they think the reason is loneliness.
I just want to never have existed so fucking bad, I am starting to hate my parents for having born me.

TL:DR I hate being born. What to do?

>>7842571
So, I booked a consultation. I'm wondering about shaving before it or the first laser session.

They say I should shave before my first session. But, how shaved do they mean? Don't you need visible hair on the surface of the skin for laser to even work? If I shaved against the grain then there'd be basically nothing there.

>>7851017
Shave the night before should work, thats what I always did and it had good results.

>>7851017
i usually shave around 4-5 hours before the session, and they wanted me not to shave the morning of the consult so they could see what we were dealing with so-to-speak

>>7849824
>>7849830
Don't take this as bullying but this is the hardest thing to decipher. Idk if English is your first language or not but it's giving me a headache to try to read this.

ATTENTION LADIES AND LADS AND OTHER THINGS:
If you are not sure you are trans: you are not trans. If you were trans you would know it since you were a little kid. ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER: Lifes easier staying what you were born as.

>>7851701
>If you were trans you would know it since you were a little kid
Not a tranny here but this makes no sense to me. I never even heard of trannies until I was all growed up. How would a little trannybopper know they are tranny if they don't know being tranny is even a thing?

>>7851758
true trans people have clairvoyant omniscience

>>7851701
Little kids don't have any internal gender identity, they just believe what people tell them. You will only know you're trans once you fully understand what being trans means, something a lot of people don't find out about until they're older

What is the currency exchange rate between good boy points and good girl points?

>>7851908
>not using pretty princess points

>>7851908
>>7852896
1 gbp = 0.77 ppp

>>7851017
I was told the optimal hair length is about 0.5mm long. I shaved as closely as I could 7-8 hours before my consultation/test patch and that was apparently fine, though when it came to the first proper session certain hairs that grew slower or were thinner needed to be longer. Next time I left some of them for an extra day so they were about the same length as the others. It's sort of a trial and error process to synchronise them all, so you should get the advice of your technician on what's a good length and try to match everything to that.

At first it's best to err slightly on the side of caution; shaving the night before or not particularly closely might be best.

>>7852924
Suing you for injuring my sides.

Does progesterone do much besides improve breast development?
Also, has anyone tried switching from estrogen pills to injections, or from spiro to a different t-blocker? Did either make much of a difference?

>>7855567
Does progesterone do much besides improve breast development?
also affects your mood i believe.

>>7851701
I've been trans all my life, but I was fine being a little boy. Gender didn't matter at that age even though I knew how ugly I was. I felt like shit in middle school I just dealt with it. I did even worse in high school. Just because your mainly dysphoric about being more male doesn't make it less valid.>>7851758

>>7857390
>also affects your mood i believe.
In what way? The only thing I've heard specifically is that it increases libido which I wouldn't mind too much on its own, but it kind of makes me worried it might affect my sexuality or something, just being on estrogen has caused me to shift a point or two on the kinsey scale. Has anyone here noticed anything like that from progesterone even after they'd been on HRT for a while?

Yesterday I smoked weed and felt like a woman. I'm a 20 year old male. I'm extremely scared of this situation. Does this mean I've been transgender all along? Yesterday I was welcoming suicide, which is something I would never do sober. Please help me.

>>7851701
ATTENTION anyone on the internet that types in caps and talks like an authority is right

So how much estrogen/t-blockers should I take? This would be without a prescription, because I definitely don't have parental consent and I'm underage, so I'm thinking self-med.

>>7857658
you're probably fine, if feelings persist go to therapy. weed can do weird things
>>7857717
do your homework /r/transdiy is a good jumping point. personally im doing 50mg cypro, 4mg (a day) estrofem

can someone drop some makeup tutorials? it seems like something that requires entire books to learn.

>>7848151
>thinking customs seizes estrogen in european union
only place ive heard that does that is norway and they aren't even in the eu

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Looking for someone who will sell me estrogen and spiro

>Kik
RedMatzoo
>Email
[email protected]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjHs7SB5NCA

just watched this
probably one of the best videos i've seen to illustrate why trans people need to be helped early (cishetwhitemalescumhere btw)

>>7857786
honestly basic makeup can be learned by trial and error. Anything above that hit up some youtube video's.

Speaking of makeup, is there like a kit I can get with all the basics? I really hate having to pay to buy everything individually.

>>7859771
just go to the makeup counter in any department store and talk to someone

>>7859786
See, that would involve both talking to someone and outting myself. I cannot stress how much I cannot do that, especially not where I live.

>>7859808

http://www.sephora.com/try-it-kit-bestsellers-P416408?skuId=1900638&icid2=products%20grid:p416408

>>7859866
Thanks anon!

Should I start hormones if I want to keep my dick? I'd like to transition as I envy nearly every woman's appearance and demeanor, except for the vag part. I really don't care about becoming sterile, but I'd like to keep a penis. Will my penis just become totally non-functioning over time?

>>7860848
I'm not an expert on this (haven't got on hormones yet) but some estrogens will make it harder to get an erection if at all. Personally it doesn't bother me since I can get satisfaction without a boner easily.

What should I do if I'm on the verge of being kicked out? I'm about to start HRT and i'm 20 almost 21 in a couple of months. Only have a High School diploma. Any advice at all would be appreciated. (To clarify I'm getting kicked out for transitioning)

>>7860848
use it or lose it.

>>7762186
idk what todo a week ago i was bedbound in tears depressed basically debilitated that im not a girl, went back on my anti-psychotic medication and now i couldn't care less actually regret shaving my beard during that period

What should I say when I call a clinic for a appointment for informed consent?
Say that I'm providing informed consent and want to start on hrt?

>>7863785
ask for a gender therapist. Once you got a meeting with him ask for informed consent hrt.

>>7862353
get a job and start looking for places to live

I got a google cadboard. Anybody got any videos to check out? I don't want any porn or anything. Are there any videos where I can just feel pretty and/or get extremely dysphoric?

>>7858017
>Internet
qhi, inhousepharmacy

>just decided I want to become more androgynous
>5'11"
>150 lbs
> male.
What OTC supplements can I take? My goal is to get more feminine waist/hips, reduce/thin body hair. I DONT want breast growth, or loss in libido, ty for the help /lgbt/

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>>7869241
Also, 25 years old
Pic is me if that helps

new thread:

>>7871486
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