Transbian masterrace CONFIRMED

>>7693569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn3of3b9UKE
>"It would be very ---attractive-- to me to have A GUY treat me like a woman."
Straight AGP hon fetishism confirmed.

>>7693609
>>7693569
>It's a huge part of AGP to imagine being fucked by a man.
Except AGP's are gynephile. This is literally the definition of their typology.

>>7693569
>Transbian masterrace CONFIRMED
>Straight trannies are the true fetishists.

Jesus christ.
Just stop.
Im a transbian too. Please stop. You are making us look more autistic than average trannies actually are.

>>7693689
>AGPs are gynephile
Yes. But they are AUTO-gynephilic. That means they love the femininity not in others but in themselves. And being with a man makes them feel more feminine. They use the image of getting fucked by a man in order to feel more feminine. Their fantasies are more often than not rough and violent (they extend to rape or rape-like fantasies). That is the reason why straight AGP megahons are attracted to man (in their agp fetish way), but are also afraid of them and usually try to repress their desire to be with a man (in the same manner like gay man do).

>>7693855
You are too kind to them.
They literally degrade transbians in almost every thread and are projecting all their bullshit on us.
I know, we're nice and take it easy, but it's time to say them the truth. Many straight trannies are just agp mega faggots. And deep down they know that I'm right.

>>7693876
>are attracted to man (in their agp fetish way), but are also afraid of them and usually try to repress their desire to be with a man (in the same manner like gay man do).
You just described transbians to a T.

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>it's a transbian gets triggered after being confronted about her agpness and proceeds to call everyone else but herself agp episode

Embarrassing

>>7693895
>Many straight trannies are just agp mega faggots.
Whatever helps you sleep at night hon.

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>>7693569
fuck off transbian scum degenerate

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Watching MTFs tear each other apart is oddly entertaining. This sort of stupid shit is why we'll always be better than you.

>>7694563
>Inittechsupportowski
kek

pls be my bf

also fuck you. enjoy fucking bishis with your 'dick' faggot.

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>>7694644
Shit surgeries aside, at least we pass better overall and have an infinitely better chance at a normal life :]

>>7694688
female privilege wins again.

lucky you being born xx.

>>7694688
But a trans woman who passes and has had all the surgeries will have a great life, doubly so if she's pretty.

Who wants some manlet cuntboy?

>>7694846
>>7694719
Holy shit you two are roasting the dickless boy too hard.

Calm down.
I'm MtF too but I'm feeling bad already, jesus christ.

>>7694871
>admit female privilege exists
>get accused of roasting natal females for it
>by a natal male
>who suffers the same male "privilege" for her gender identity as me
this is female privilege.

>>7694688
>small shoulders
>wide pelvis
>small head
so how do you pass "well," tranny?

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>>7694883
>>7694846
I'm 3 years HRT and have no issues with dating, haven't been clocked since I was pre-T. Plus, let's be real here; most of not all MTFs on 4chan, including yourself, are lonely hons with no hopes for the future.

>>7694935
>had man shoulders pre-HRT
kek
Thank god you aren't a woman.

>>7694935
>lonely
>no hopes for the future
i repeat, lucky you. xx.

>>7694935
I have seen that pic posted a lot, is that really you?
I'm not the anon you replied btw but look, posting some nice transition pic doesn't really validates your own transition else the hons posting anime or some random pornstar wouldn't be hons right?

Also what's wrong with you trying to prove your manliness to a bunch of MtF trannies? lol.

>>7694935
Is this what FtM hons look like

>>7694976
Most FtMs are hons, they are just more funny than sad or disgusting.

>shorter than 5'7
>wide hips
>patchy facial hair
>teenage boy face
>tiny ribcage
>fagboy voice
>toxic masculinity incarnate
>dresses faggy
>weird haircuts no real guy has

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>>7693569
>>shorter than 5'7
5'9" actually
>>wide hips
They're not that bad actually, I was super androgynous pre-T and frequently confused for a 12-13 year old boy.
>>patchy facial hair
Guilty though that's just because it's just taking its time to come in. I've got a nice goatee but the sides are somewhat light/patchy. I'm not worried.
>>teenage boy face
Not bothered by the shape of my face but I suppose it could be better. The facial hair definitely helps, though so will more time on T.
>>tiny ribcage
See, part of the reason you kids are so miserable is because you're so goddamn critical of yourselves. This isn't even something I'd ever waste time worrying about.
>>fagboy voice
My voice is fine. I adjusted just fine after the awkward puberty voice cracks. If anything my voice was SUPER awkward pre-T.
>>toxic masculinity incarnate
It's just funny fucking with you, you guys love shitting up our threads so I'm just returning the favor.
>>dresses faggy
If T-shirts and business casual are faggy then ok.
>>weird haircuts no real guy has
Sure, if you're a blue-haired tumblrina.

The problem with this board is that most trannies here are early transitioners who are self conscious and don't fit in well with society, and they end up representing the majority as a result. Stop tearing each other apart and invading other threads with your toxic negativity, and perpetuating your self imposed miserable state.

>>7695197
>Stop tearing each other apart and invading other threads with your toxic negativity, and perpetuating your self imposed miserable state.

>dat lack of a male brain to give her proper understanding of her own actions.

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>>7695214
It's called being intentionally ironic, my friend.

My only intention here was to make a point, because I knew you'd be easily triggered.

>>7693689
>looks at clipboard
>all my little boxes are checked properly!

>>7693569
it's pretty blatant you've never read blanchard, anon
not only does he explain that agp =/= non-trutrans, he also explains that what you're describing is an extremely common aspect of agp but there are straight trans women who don't have it
>>7694644
bottom surgery being shit is a meme

>>7693922
No Transbian wants to have sex with a man, dicks are gross. Thick body hair is gross. Their scent is gross. Their everything is repulsive.

OP's thread is funny but all of you spend way too much time bickering over who's the real fetishist.

>>7696307
The meme does have some truth though, anon.
Either you end up with a micropenis or one that doesn't get erect on its own and needs a pump.

>>7696675
i've researched bottom surgery for the past five years, kept a close eye on advancements and results, etc
i know what the results are
bottom surgery being shit, unacceptable for the majority of trans men, inferior to mtf surgery, etc are all complete memes

>>7696685
Well as a cis man, let me tell you, either is a big problem. I'd call having to choose between those shit.

>>7693876
>That means they love the femininity not in others but in themselves
I like femininity in general, but when I see myself in a masculine way, I'm disgusted by what I see.
>And being with a man makes them feel more feminine. They use the image of getting fucked by a man in order to feel more feminine
I guess, but I could be happy with either gendered partner. I was a typical transbian top before hrt, but spiro made me into a bottom.
> Their fantasies are more often than not rough and violent (they extend to rape or rape-like fantasies)
True, but I also like soft gentle fantasies/play. Outside of sex, would like to just cuddle together and watch movies or whatever

What is the deal with "transbians" that are actually just bisexuals but refuse to call themselves bi?

>>7696860
I want to be a lesbian. Being bi is awful.

>>7696869
It's funny because I'd take being bi in a heartbeat. I've tried to like men too and it just doesn't work for me.

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>>7696879
Nah, I wanna be a cute lesbian with a cute gf but then I have a weird irrational and overpowering attraction to men. It's suffering. They are worse in literally every single way, yet I still feel drawn to them.

>>7696887
It's easy to feel that way when you're not in a situation where your lack of attraction for men is a problem that can't be fixed.

Nothing stops you from getting a cute gf anyway.

>>7696891
I can, but then I feel some degree of longing for men.

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OP here. I really like how this thread is going.

>>7693945
Kek! I'm not a triggered transbian, hon. I've never attacked a straight tranny in any thread before. Why should I? They are miserable anyway and only get attention from
>FUCKING CHASERS.
Congrats... noo, you really have it bad enough!
But I get SICK because they are sitting on their high horses. That's why I created this thread. Leave it, if you get too triggered for reading the truth.

>>7696307
>"it's pretty blatant you've never read blanchard, anon not only does he explain that agp =/= non-trutrans, he also explains that what you're describing is an extremely common aspect of agp but there are straight trans women who don't have it"
"Pretty blatant" - FUCKING KEK! "Trutrans" is a fucking 4chan meme, you idiot! You faggy straight trannies always call in Blanchard as if he somehow legitimizes your kind.Sorry to destroy your world-view, but YOU'RE WRONG!
Blanchard thinks of straight trannies as MASSIVE HOMOSEXUAL MALE FAGGOTS, who want to become woman in order to attract heterosexual men. For him you are just ultragay.
All transbian actually see that Blanchard is degrading all trannies, it's just you straight trannies, who do not want to see the truth (AGAIN!). You do not even want to recognize that literally...
>... all feminization and sissification porn is for fucking faggy dick lovers like you, who want to become a woman!
>... all old hons are YOUR KIND! Caitlyn, in 4chan terms, was a /r9k/-like sissy-fetishist, who got /fit/ in the extreme and repressed her fetish for decades until it grew too strong; now she wants to get some dick before she dies, but still is too afraid to date man because she wants to get MASSIVELY ABUSED BY THEM in order to feel the maximum femininity
Gross.

>>7696661
Exactly this.

How stupid can you (>>7693895) be to think that transbians fantasize about being with a man?!

>>7697233
...you especially haven't read blanchard
for one, i'm not mtf
two, i am completely, 100% aware there's no such thing as trutrans, that's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID -- 'agp =/= non-trutrans' means 'agp does not mean you aren't trans'
three, i am also completely, 100% aware that the hsts category is not meant to be a 'trutrans' category and that it's a morph of homosexuality -- this is a completely true statement that i accept, because i'm not so insecure in my identity to freak out at the idea i have something in common with butch dykes
four, those greentext portions make absolutely no sense and i genuinely can't tell what you're trying to express
let me reiterate: what you are describing is called meta-attraction and it is an inherent part of auto*philia

>>7697254
also, to expand on 'morph of homosexuality', feminine androphilic natal males and masculine gynephilic natal females are evolutionarily the same thing regardless of their specific identity
in the west, historically, most of them identified as effeminate gay men or butch lesbians, but in other cultures they were often considered 'third genders' = trans
the west is now coming into the same situation as the rest of the world where those people are considered trans rather than cis
this is the logical conclusion of all research done on the topic and is also the reason desistence rates are dropping, and if anyone's meant to be disturbed by it it's probably cisgays

>>7693569
transbian reporting in. i have succumb to my trutrans urges. I want to fug a transbian tho.

Penis

>>7697307
Dickens

>>7697280
are transbians oviparous?

>>7697254
>>7697263
>"...you especially haven't read blanchard"
Oh, come on...
80% of what you are writing is completely off-topic. Also you have a massive confusion with the terms you are using. Your confidence is sky-high, though...

>"i am completely, 100% aware there's no such thing as trutrans, that's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID -- 'agp =/= non-trutrans' means 'agp does not mean you aren't trans'"
Wrong (2 times).
You did -not- say that 'agp does not mean you aren't TRANS'. You said that BLANCHARD explains that agp does not mean you aren't TRUTRANS (see your own post: >>7696307).
You should read at least what you are writing yourself before you accuse somebody else to not have read the texts they are talking about, over-confident anon.

>"i am also completely, 100% aware that the hsts category is not meant to be a 'trutrans' category and that it's a morph of homosexuality"
Kek. Why did you say then that Blanchard says that being agp does not automatically mean that you aren't TRUTRANS? That was my whole point, yet you still do not see your own contradictions and just produce more.

>"[That Blanchard's "hsts" is a thing and a morph of homosexuality] is a completely true statement that i accept, because i'm not so insecure in MY IDENTITY to freak out at the idea i have something in common with butch dykes"
Now you are suggesting that you consider yourself as a hsts. Then why did you write
>"for one, i'm not mtf"?
If you really fell for the Blanchard typology from the 1980s and 1990s, then I really feel sorry for you, anon. I kinda feel bad of pointing out your bad reasoning and your reading comprehension (of your own posts...).

>"let me reiterate: what you are describing is called meta-attraction and it is an inherent part of auto*philia"
Omfg. "Metaattraction" is ANOTHER 4chan meme... but thanks for pointing out to me, what self-created terms you use in /agp/. Very interesting.

>>7697263
That's not even bullshit, that's gibberish.

>>7696307
>not only does he explain that agp =/= non-trutrans, he also explains that what you're describing is an extremely common aspect of agp but there are straight trans women who don't have it
wait how is op common for agp? aren't straight trans women mostly not agp?

being straight seems to be the default orientation for AGP trantrans
transbian is usually less self-fetishizing and more fetishizing trannies
lesbian (liking cis girls / SRS trans girls) is the purest form of trannydom

>>7698679
I'm a tranny and only like cisgirls and transgirls who are at least on HRT for some time (-> shruken dick).
Am I on the good side now?

>>7698679
>being straight seems to be the default orientation for AGP trantrans
i thought agps were almost all into other girls? i wanted to feel special for liking guys.

>>7698803
the people who cry AGP all the time are usually straight AGP trannies obsessed with the concept of being a 'model housewife' or whatever

it's not that straight trannies are AGP by nature, just that wanting to be 'fucked like a woman' is an important aspect of being AGP and comes from male socialization

>>7699004
>those post numbers

why did male socialization make me agp when it didn't do that to others?

>>7699054
i think it's just how you develop? being attracted to being a woman can be a normal part of transitioning, i think
before i started HRT i liked dressing up and 'feeling pretty' but as i got more comfortable with thinking of myself as a woman as opposed to a 'boy who pretends to be a girl' i stopped caring, both because i'm not nearly woman enough, and because i want to be a normal woman, not an agp boy

>This thread is still active.
>With hons trying to validate their gender identity disorder by how much they crave pussy or dick.

Gonna be honest here, you all need to stop trying to prove which one of you are more trutrutrutrans based on what you want to fuck.
Technically you could be asexual and still be a tranny. It has nothing to do with your sexual preference but with how your feel about your own gender.

Also the reason we have so many transbians is due to 4chan demography being very homogeneous (20 to 30 year old, nerdy liking computers and video games, weeb, etc).

Peace, catty hons.

>>7699070
i don't want to be a normal woman. i want to keep my agp and probably lots of other parts of my male socialization if i could point them out, but as a girl.