I Made It Soft! Edition
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• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
prev. >>7645119
>>7646571
<3 everyone
think about childhood buddis
and like crushes before you go to sleep
>>7646577
*tucks u in my marsupial pouch*
>>7646584
Where do you live again Juni??
>>7646587
seattle
do you have koalas in yr neighborhood?
>>7646584
This thread is now about koala buddis
> tfw you desperately want a bf but you know that you aren't ready for a relationship
>>7646584
ok youre my crush
>>7646590
Na
we have possums tho
>>7646592
don't worry fransi you'll find someone someday
>>7646592
maybe you could date yrself
oh wait haha
>>7646591
<3
>>7646595
yr my lil anon
>>7646596
me too
also mountain beavers which are pretty fucking awesome and shockingly friendly
>>7646592
>tfw you desperately want a bf but you know that you aren't ready for a relationship
iktf
My life is a mess and as lonely as I am I don't think I could handle a relationship :/
emma
>tfw you have one exam to study for and it's tommorow
>really don't want to study but if i pass this exam i'll be free for a while
>>7646592
how come you feel like you're not ready?
You mean physically or mentally? :/
>>7646599
I used to live next door to this guy
>>7646601
I had to help this really annoying horribly stupid jewish lady for like over 20 minutes today and it made me a lot more racist
>>7646605
that's sick :D
there's a kangaroo farm maybe 100 miles from me
are they pretty scary sometimes?
>>7646599
uwu
>>7646605
>tfw no muscular roo to tuck you in at night
>>7646610
>hating jews
jewniper, why
>>7646610
>a lot more racist
lol elaborate
>>7646610
wtf
In Seattle? That's really weird.
They're not penned in are they?
And yeah the males can get super aggressive but only if you get up in their business.
I actually raised a couple whose mothers were hit by cars, they're very gentle if they know/trust you.
>>7646612
gross zhea
bestiality is gross
>>7646608
iktf about voice, it makes me extremely self-conscious
about no srs, do you feel like you just dont want to do anal or do you think you'd feel too self conscious abt your gt?
>>7646617
LMAO
>when the memes go too far
>>7646607
what's up girl
>>7646619
You memed on my ass too hard and now I won't walk straight for days
>>7646623
Sorta like the muscular roo would do if he got ahold of you, olive. :^)
>tfw the voices start to bully you
Remember trust noone not even yourself.
tfw a trip has a crush on you
>>7646613
There's stereotypes that are rightfully established for every type of person
I just happen to hate everything about the walking stereotype of a jew
I've had close jewish friends but it's hard to clock them as jewish
i think there's a line where a jew can't control their rat instincts and they do subhuman things like summon sjw's.
>>7646616
she was just so in the moment it was retarded
she made it seem like everything was supposed to benefit her and if it wasn't she whined about it
She wouldn't believe me or listen to me and honestly I'm surprised she knew where she was.
>>7646617
um there's only a few and they have space
they aren't as muscular i think but it's been a few years
the place has wallabies and lemurs too
and other more common animals
pic related; it's my fursona getting redpilled
>>7646618
I kinda like anal but it's much prep work and I wouldn't feel comfortable with spontaneous sex.
I also strongly dislike my gt, it makes me feel abnormal and it would be really weird to have that thing when it gets intimate. Its just really limiting and uncomfortable to not have a vagina.
But voice is like the most important thing right now, without a passing voice I simply can't interact with people, so finding someone is impossible.
I get professional voicetraining now but I don't see how my voice could ever pass.
>>7646622
oh you know the usual
pookie begging for my attention and im ignoring him cause hes a faggot who likes that
whats up with you anon
who you
>>7646608
>Physically because no srs
>>7646618
>do you feel like you just dont want to do anal
I have this hangup. I love toys in there but the thought of being fucked in the ass doesn't appeal to me at all.
>>7646625
>>7646629
>i think there's a line where a jew can't control their rat instincts and they do subhuman things like summon sjw's.
but sjws are good :(
i mean, moderate feminism is a lot better, but at the end of the day you can claim a lot more brownie points with an sjw than you can with a /pol/lack
i'm mostly joking, though. i've known a few really cancerous people online who were jewish, which was funny
>>7646631
yeah, not having a girl voice makes me feel pretty horrible too. It's come to the point where I feel dread whenever i interact with e.g my sister, because she has this adorable cis voice and compared to her I feel like King Kong. Really great dysphoria times.
>>7646635
>I have this hangup. I love toys in there but the thought of being fucked in the ass doesn't appeal to me at all
hmm, I don't really have that big of a hangup, but as franzi said it's the prep work that messes it up.
>>7646639
>not having a girl voice
You can achieve one! I believe in you. :)
>>7646629
Lmao, this post made me crack up pretty hard. Ily juni
>>7646628
sometimes i crush on trips but im not good enough for them to like me back
>>7646632
who the heck is pookie?
I'm just talking to people on the internet
and I'm no one important, d/w about it
>>7646645
i've been assured of this, it just feels like im so far away from it it's crazy... it just seems impossible
>>7646628
>tfw no trips crush on you anymore
>>7646649
>not knowing who pookie is
>2kXX
>>7646652
tfw you crush on anon
>>7646638
idk both extremes are dumb
I am just surrounded constantly by sjw's that give lip service to their peer's plights for good social status so they can look better on social media
Just like the right they get angry instead of talking shit out.
>>7646645
is yr spirit animal bunbun
>>7646629
I've experienced a LOT of middle aged women like that. They just think they're really important, and that they should be to me personally just because I'm serving them a drink. Like bitch I don't care if you think the moscato is too expensive I just fucking work here.
imo 40-60 year old Jewish ladies are the worst, along with your typical office-job lady.
Men are disgusting in retail/hospitality 100% of the time though, regardless of ethnicity.
Had one guy threaten to fuck me with the thick end of a beer bottle because he thought he gave me a $50 when he'd only given me a $20.
ugh
anyway yeah
That sounds like a nice petting zoo though!
It's good for kangaroos to have a lot of space, they get super stressed out if they're fenced in and can hurt themselves by jumping into walls.
>>7646656
bunbun
>>7646649
some retard that begged me to like him and he was kinda cute so i let him
>>7646654
hello
do you like rockets?
>>7646655
>tfw i dont crush on anyone
>>7646639
>the prep work that messes it up.
That too. I'm open to trying, I'll try almost anything within reason but I don't think I'll like it.
>>7646657
tell me about men
why do they get so angry
Emma
>>7646661
is it that easy? just gotta beg?
>>7646663
>right is actively against trannies
do you un-ironically believe this?
>>7646639
I hate cis women, shy did they get everything for free reee.
I can't even imagine a voice that would fit me. It's so weird.
>>7646662
i dont know much about them
the prospect of leaving earth certainly appeals to me
>>7646657
lol
ok i feel less racist now
i had some homeless guy threaten to wrap my ass around the pole outside during the upcoming war
then he stole some fake plants
how do u kno these kangasecrets?
>>7646663
good point
idk i just wish being trans wasn't such an issue D:
>>7646661
I did not beg.
>>7646662
but
why not
>>7646666
quads
go away don't steal her attention from me
>>7646671
nononononono
Gosh there's so much stuff to look forward to this year
I'm really thankful I transitioned
My life's gotten so much better since then it's unbelievable to me
>>7646666
hi there texan cutie
>>7646676
you beg pretty much every hour
>>7646671
try it and find out
it cant hurt~
>>7646678
ello love
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei-hUiCO6z8
>>7646681
You call me while I'm trying to sleep again and I'm going to actually kill you
That or block you lmao
>>7646676
Can I steal your attention?
>>7646681
H-Hi.
>>7646682
iktf
>>7646683
this is reallly jammy and my type of music
oh fuck yes thank you
>>7646674
i dont know much about them either
i just think they are cool
i dont know much about anything that i think is cool
>>7646665
It's mostly just because I work in a seedy bar I think and the kind of men I serve are angry in general and have no respect for anyone at all.
Luckily though we've got good security.
>>7646675
Homeless people can be scary
I walked past an alley yesterday with a friend and a bunch of ratty dudes were coming out really fast at us but thankfully it was a busy street and we put like 5 people between us and them really fucking fast.
As for roo knowledge I used to live with them, I raised a couple of orphaned babies when I was little.
>>7646685
you can try
my attention is pretty deadset on emma though...
>>7646676
i mean i crush on my best friend irl but no one here
i dont think repressed feelings count as a crush though so idk
>>7646689
olive is a cool bartender
olive can i have a kanga
>>7646692
is best friend cute
olive was raised by kangas
>>7646689
that part about the dudes going fast sounds scary af
>>7646690
Does she dom you in a degrading way?
>>7646698
i wanna be raised by kangas
>>7646688
hey same
i dont know much about you but i think yer cool
>>7646681
what if I don't want to beg and just want to talk tho??
>>7646684
but i missed you.....
you cant blame a girl for wanting to talk to her favorite girl in the whole world can you?
>>7646685
dont try and steal my property or ill end up stealing certain things of yours~
>>7646686
its fun making you beg though
>>7646678
>My life's gotten so much better since then it's unbelievable to me
This is awesome to read. Keep it up, Grace. You can achieve anything you want and more.
I know the feeling too, my life has felt so much better to live and exist inside.
>>7646678
this is gonna be an awesome year!
>>7646693
You'll have to move to Central Australia :^)
And nah I'm not the cool kind of bartender
I'm the kind of bartender who will tell you to order food or drinks or else you'll have to leave
no loafing on my watch
>>7646699
I dunno if they were actually coming at us specifically but we weren't about to stick around to find out lol
>>7646701
kangas are cool and will teach you to chill
emus are stronk though
they will teach you to fight
>>7646708
no cuts ;-;
>>7646704
Yes I can.
You can talk to me when it's a decent hour for the working world you NEET.
>>7646705
>>7646705
I will achieve anything I want, and more, yes~!
>>7646711
I'm glad you two are sharing in the feeling <3
Whatcha got in store?
>>7646713
cuts are good to deal with emotions and bad thoughts
>>7646704
I dont have anything you can steal.
Unless you mean my heart..
>>7646708
Thats cute. One must admire her sick, dirty need to degrade others.
>>7646714
well im gonna look more girly by the end of this year no matter what
im moving to nyc in august
once im in nyc i can do stuff like buy girl clothes and style my hair and oh get on injections!
a lot of stuff this year!
Morning /mtfg/
I'm gonna fail a resit exam and apply for a job today!
>>7646713
i-i haven't in a couple weeks
and those are old!!!
>>7646718
yea I admire her a lot >~< she's really special
Anyone else ever feel like their brow bone gets bigger and bigger? I know it's not real but I feel every day it looks bigger to me.
Gonna get this shit removed ASAP.
>>7646712
but what if my friends told me to meet them there and im not really hungry or thirsty
>>7646708
oh my
cute~
>>7646703
give me your discord and we can
>>7646718
thats what i meant dummy
>>7646714
such a bully
do it more mommy
>>7646724
sometimes i see my chin from certain angle and i just think holy shit i can never pass with this
then i kinda realize holy shit i'm a big cuddly hippie dude with tits and shaved arms
wtf am i doing LOL
>>7646724
sometimes it feels like it's growing and it freaks me out
mine isn't that severe but it probably wouldve gotten worse if i hadnt started hrt
tfw ratty scarecrow
>>7646736
>you will never put juni up in your field
>>7646678
> My life's gotten so much better since then it's unbelievable to me
This so much.
>>7646735
you can at least cover it up
dw you are true eye candy
>>7646736
youre lovely
i n s o m n i a
guess I'll just play stardew valley
>>7646735
awww zheanna it's okay
you're pretty in the pictures you've posted!
your style is cute ^^
>>7646722
>yfw trannies mutilate themselves because depression
>yfw it makes them look hideous as either sex
>>7646724
Actually I recall something about estrogen in males causing a swelling of that area, slightly. Something about estrogen doing shit around with testosterone which is deposited there as part of the testosterone used in brain usage.
I forgot exactly how it works, but is said to cause swelling up to 1/4 inch outward.
>>7646722
Its good she has you. Cute subs often need other cute subs to have fun with.
>>7646726
You already have a part of it..
>>7646745
stereotypical tranny game
>>7646738
it'd be worth it becuz that means you would hold me at least a little
>>7646743
thanks i try sometimes <3
>>7646750
ill hold you till the end of the time bby
>>7646747
This post is bad and you should feel bad
>>7646749
hi dp
>>7646752
lil lanner
>>7646747
my partner thinks cuts are cute so i don't mind too much ~
>>7646727
okie ill try
>>7646748
she's a very cute sub OwO
I don't get to see it too often though >~<
>>7646751
I love you sweaty
>>7646754
I'm not lil I'm a big girl
>>7646708
>tfw no partner wants to directly engage me with blood play
Why live when no one will cut me, senpai?
>>7646748
>>7646722
>>7646718
>>7646700
>>7646676
stop making me feel bi
>>7646726
posting my discord in public is spooky tho
>>7646742
>>7646746
>dw you are true eye candy
maybe after $20,000 of facial reconstruction surgery. :)))
>>7646736
ratty scarecrows never looked better my love
>>7646757
sweaty
>>7646759
no im a big girl
tucc lil lanner in
>>7646755
I'm sure you'll get her to bend for you plenty. Just make her beg for it.
>>7646760
she's done that it's really nice ^^;
>>7646768
it didn't work...
>>7646748
still?
i suppose i do have a lasting effect
>>7646762
you gotta put a little effort in for me anon
make a throwaway or something
i have faith in you
>>7646768
dont expose trade secrets~
>>7646764
<3
*bites yr neck*
>>7646767
I'd be bigger than you in heels
>>7646736
Literally just get laser and you'd pass already.
What are you even doing repressing for so long?
>>7646770
You lucky girl...
Seriously, the most I can get my bf to do is text me instructions. He gets sick at the sight of blood and really just humours my fetish more than anything. He's just glad I don't hurt myself out of hate anymore.
>>7646776
and id be bigger than you with or without them
lil lan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QazUyYHFXdM
do you remember that goosebumps episode about zheanna
>>7646777
dude don't yell at me
>>7646771
>>7646760
I'm glad at least some people here have fetishes I can identify with.
>>7646771
weebery#9611
there ya go emma
>>7646780
except that ghost looks like a female and i look like an alpha male with a jaw that could put any weakling to shame and a brow that is essentially a unicorn horn.
>>7646779
I could beat u in an arm wrestle
>>7646787
>alpha male
lmao no
>>7646784
You are chosen, senpai. *hugs*
>>7646689
>>7646787
>>7646678
This a thousand times
so many great plans
>>7646786
sssssssssssssent ;)
>>7646781
>>7646793
Piggu!
now i feel gross
emotions are bad
honestly i'm probably the strongest one in mtfg
>>7646781
s t a h p
>>7646789
nuh uh i pumped iron for two months like a year ago and didn't gain any muscle
ill win and then ill boop your nose
>>7646791
>tfw hugbox
>>7646794
wow where did you get this 4 month hrt pic of me?
>>7646805
That's not a hugbox but the one photo I remember of you you look like an edgy scene kid and those aren't alpha
>>7646801
>implying
bitch my PR in squats was 310 lbs
fite me
>>7646804
I pick things up and put them down all day and have muscles now
>>7646804
>>7646809
>>7646810
Mortals pls
>>7646810
i pick pizza and popcorn up all day as i shovel it into my mouth
>>7646809
i benched 180 once
i used to practice judo flips and mma shit with my boy crush in hs
here i come!
>>7646811
I bet sheen would beat you in an arm wrestle
What matters is being stronger than your gf tbqh
>>7646803
No idea what you're talking about and I'm pale as paper atm, so I doubt it.
>>7646811
take your pills amy
>>7646813
if your deadlift was under 300 you literally should have transitioned already by then
>>7646815
can you please not challenge my alpha status anymore it's not good for my cred
>>7646820
D:
how are u so tiny looking tho?
>>7646817
But being weaker than your gf means they can push you around
>tfw feel bad because you're all girls and I am a boy
I can do 3 pushups
goml, /mtfg/
>>7646826
i bet you have a more beta jaw than me though.
everyone in this thread is a literal jawlet compared to me.
>>7646830
Do you want a picture of ore ffs me?
>>7646823
im an expert at cutting
plus this was a few years back
also i never grew a lot of mass except on my legs, which are still huge
deadlifts and squats were the only things i liked anyway, my bench and OHP was actually kinda pathetic
good night friends
>>7646821
But isn't this how people establish dominance? Challenging alphaness?
>>7646839
Being alpha is a state of mind, a way of life
Not looks.
>>7646839
Yes I had ffs in November.
Do you have discord or Skype?
I can't unsee rn.
>>7646838
i would much rather we all agree that im the most alpha and then go shopping for cute clothes
I'm really nervous for my test
I just studied 90 minutes and that's all I did
I'm gonna fail :(
I should just kms desu senpai
>>7646847
I have the sneaking suspicion you might be a girl
Either way I should probably go to bed. Sorry for like, being a mess and stuff. I feel like I'm actually starting to feel better about this whole gay thing though, slowly. It's a relief.
>>7646819
fuck
i mix you and haru up
you need an original name
>>7646820
Bitch, nobody can beat my sick bench record of... the bar. Literally just the bar.
>>7646860
Mine is the original name. I was here when this board was created. I just left for a bit because I was busy trying to kms and then trying not to kms.
>>7646856
hugg
night lanner
>>7646855
hugg
i have an exam tommorow as well and i feel like i havent done enough
at least im doing a practice exam now :S
good luck tho
>>7646861
to be fair my bench was pretty bad as well
>>7646856
don't worry about it
i feel like a spaz sometimes for bringing my gay/straight stuff up so much so it was a nice change of pace to talk about your stuff
just let yourself come to terms with it on your own time
have a good night lani, im glad you're starting to feel better <3
>>7646855
ganbatte!
>>7646867
Thanks
Good luck to you as well
I hate this 'school' thing desu
>>7646869
Arigato gosaimasu
>>7646856
I'm glad you're feeling better about this stuff. Have a good sleep.
what the fuck, tmz edited the fuck out of this footage when shia lebouf got arrested for attacking some dude for no reason..
talk about fake news
original stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wal0YrlDB1s
tmz edit
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_i0r5225n/
>>7646881
>tmz is fake news
:o
>>7646885
you watch CNN and MSNBC's pick up the TMZ footage and present it as fact
just you watch
>tfw get suicidal at slight inconveniences nowadays
>>7646885
what happened was this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vnDzVpkIHk
and then he threatened to kill the guy off camera
who wants to buy me a pizza
I'll pay you in boyfriends
>>7646887
Life is the inconvenience, senpai. You're misguided because you think the fleeting moments of levity are the norm.
>>7646892
Fucking instincts making me want to stay alive
>reads a few threads back
>people actually used to take this trutrans agp autism even more seriously
lmao imagine being that spooked
How's everyone doing?
Should I marry Abigail or Shane in Stardew Valley?
>>7646908
dysphoric
>>7646908
Breddy gud, gomrade. How are you?
>>7646908
decently. going to my voice therapist today and going shopping with a friend afterwards :3
i'd feel good but i just read that thread about tummy fat and that was quite depressing.
>>7646891
>buying pizza with boyfriends
woah there buddy, don't get TOO generous...
>>7646908
went for a walk and got shouted at by big ethiopian men
a car revved and did a burnout near me and it scared me
I met a nice magpie though
>>7646886
so it begins
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/26/shia-labeouf-arrested-anti-trump-art-installation-he-will-not-divide-us-new-york
>everybody keeps clocking my accent
>will never be TruAnglo
feels ??? man
Fuck I just realized I turned in the rough draft of my English paper instead of the revised version today.
Rip that grade
>>7646929
Well it is Australia day
>>7646939
? email and tell them you made a mistake?
>>7646947
This teacher has a strict no resubmissions policy. She even used this exact scenario as an example on the syllabus
sometimes I feel like I am filtered by a lot of you
>>7646925
I still can't hate Shia. Everything he does is so goofy and nonsensical that I struggle to believe he's a member of the same species as the rest of us.
>>7646933
Eh, I'm gonna be honest I've rarely seen a cis girl with that perfect belly either. It's annoying but it'll never amount to the hatred I have for my shoulders.
>>7646950
You haven't given me a reason yet :)
>>7646954
I dont hate him for his protest, I do hate him for assaulting people who express their own views or in the case of the assault last night
for no reason at all
>>7646960
>assaulting a man who yelled "hitler did nothing wrong"
beating up nazis should be required by law tbqh
>>7646960
https://my.mixtape.moe/xlgqxm.webm
>>7646963
dude tonight didn't do anything, thats the point
he was just one of the group of people hanging out and saying "he will not divide us"
>>7646960
>hating a radical for punching a radical
i mean what the heck do you expect
>>7646969
Oh wait there was another one?
>>7646966
shouldn't you be beating up bins?
you cant even see the irony in your actions being fascist
>>7646971
judge for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vnDzVpkIHk
>>7646973
>you cant even see the irony in your actions being fascist
only people who say this don't really understand what fascism is.
spooked/10 imo
>>7646973
fuck that bin it had it coming
>>7646976
fine, authoritarianism
but considering that antifa targets
>FUCKING WHITE MALES
and worshipped their king obama
yeah
>>7646975
idk bro you can't tell anything you can't hear what they said either so idk how you can be so certain about this
>>7646973
politics are inherently violent, liberal.
>>7646982
antifa worships obama.... kek
I saw some people saying this year it was a bernie bloc that was funny too idk if it is accurate tho
>>7646985
in reality they worship soros
he is the one funding them
>>7646982
by that logic all violence is authoritarianism (which is a spook anyway).
i hope you're at least consistent with your own beliefs and are a complete pacifist
>>7646982
>antifa worshipped obama
>its a 4chan poster thinks communists and anarchists are liberals episode
read a book
>>7646983
>bro
;_;
also, let me find a link with audio
here's a vid for you to laugh at
/r9k/ visited the camera earlier in the night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5oVGQe8Opw
>>7646987
wait, where can i get into this? I need funding as well and it sounds like i fit the bill
>>7646991
Back off I am part jew I have a better claim on the gold
>>7646984
LIGHTWEIGHT PUSSIES
DETRANSITION AND FACE THE BLOODSHED
>>7646992
i am literally a card carrying communist
Soros is apparently funding us now, I WANT MY MONEY
>>7646990
sorry
that was pretty funny desu idk this whole idea is stupid like I agree with the msg I guess??? but this is poor execution
time to die
aka take my exam
>>7646983
here's another thing that happened just before he got arrested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2nFycmT3o8
>>7646988
what's up with the meme of calling everything a spook
idgi???
>>7647007
she is being racist
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spook
im hungry but I don't have any money and my housemates are cluttering up the kitchen with all of their shit
wat do
>>7647015
Eat some rice peasant
>>7647012
what a fucking nigger
>>7647007
Max Stirner. Spooks are abstract concepts and social constructs that people treat as actually existing or having a fundamental inherent basis in the physical world, ignoring their basis as an invention of society. "Trutrans" is a common spook here, for example.
>>7646835
>thumbnail
>>7647002
okay I'm not going to watch all this but it looks like the guy he ended up hitting is with the pol blart guy so you saying he just randomly hit this person for no reason is not true
>>7647022
oh, right, that makes more sense
>when you're not allowed to say humans are superior to animals because a man-made system of classification has grouped us together with them and that means that we are objectively the same as them
>>7647025
the pol blart guy saw what was happening and stepped in front of him to stop it
>>7647017
But I can't steam any rice because they've got pots and pans all over the stovetop
it's like literally living with children
they never clean anything up
>>7647028
or how full blood abbos are supposed to be human even though they look closer to what we know neanderthals looked like
>>7647029
okay idk I don't really care about this that much desu
>>7647038
I care because it will be spun as though poor innocent Shia was goaded by evil Nazi's
has anybody ever successfully spoken to a nazi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwCGi2F24io
>>7647038
did I mention that the guy that Shia was assaulting that polblart hard to step in between was 14
https://madgenderscience.miraheze.org/wiki/Long-term_safety_of_HRT
>>7647045
what I'm trying to say is this is stupid but those people he punched probably deserved it
>>7647044
> longterm safety of hrt
> the whole thing is about having a retarded lifestyle.
>>7647047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=100&v=umtPInYIuX0
>>7647048
I guess hrt is safe and all trans women are just fucked up in their heads
>>7647044
So basically the ones who don't pass kill themselves, while the ones who do pass end up fucking everything that moves and get hiv.
In summary, being a fake girl sucks but being cute is worth it.
>>7647053
desu, yeah, most transgirls i know are really promiscuous
even the strictly mono girls i know are usually pretty slutty, as far as slutty can go when you're mono
>>7647053
exactly
>>7647049
okay thank you for correcting the record
>>7647059
no problem, he is unhinged and assaulting people
>>7647053
I don't even believe sex exists.
>>7647063
sex definitely does not exist
>>7647057
Well, speaking for myself I've been very lonely as a boy and at the back of my mind there is a hint of "Oh, I can use my legs to get the affection I want." I'm in a much better place mentally than most transgirls I've seen so I can understand them seeking that quick shot of validation.
>>7647063
Spoken like a proper marxist.
>>7647053
who from here is going to (or should) kill themselves?
>>7647066
"Sex isn't real. It's fake." -Karl Marx, The Ego and His Own, 1776.
>tfw biomechanics guy last week also said I have a dowager's hump due to hypotonia that I've never been aware of 'cause of my lack of kinesthesia
fuck's sake when the physio stretches me out I'm gonna be 6 ft 4 or some shit
I'm a hulking, lumbering retarded monster of a tranny
>>7646584
>tfw multiple things led me to believe I wouldn't have a chance with my childhood crush in a million years
>mfw things actually did work out and we're kink/cuddle/smooch buddies now
noice
>>7646731
ikr
>>7647071
u
jk ur alright anon
>>7647073
oh also
>had a mini breakdown while at the youth advice centre assembling my PIP tribunal case when I realised the reason my mum's so upset with how fucked up I am is because I was the last thing in her life she felt she hadn't fucked up at after a life similarly full of stupid terrible shit as mine and now I'm a stupid ugly tranny and she's told she didn't even give birth to me right so I'm permanently stuck with a low quality of life so even that part of her life got fucked up
me and her are similar in a lot of ways
it's pretty depressing, I think she freaks out when I tell her about my life problems because it reminds her of her own failures and bad experiences too much
I still miss her
I hate myself
>>7647078
I'm afraid to ask but who?
>planning Valentine's day dinner with bf
>don't know what kinda resturant to go to
Any suggestions? I'm feeling lobster but i dunno what else would be fancy
>>7647080
you could try the chaser who only wants you for your cock restaurant
>>7647079
Juniper
Who else
>>7647082
The nespresso machine
What else
Should I confess to my sister?
Really depressed and only trust her
>>7647078
Hugg nep
You need to stop this though
>>7647085
yes
supportive sisters are amazing
>>7647085
if you trust her then yes, it really does help to get it off your chest to those you know and love
>>7647080
A good steak and red wine can never hurt.
>>7647080
>not cooking for your boyfriend
you gotta step it up if you want to be wife-tier
>>7647088
OHMYGOD thats adorable
>>7647087
If I tell her then it's a total dead end for any future repression
>>7647088
Absolutely. But I'm still ashamed.
>>7647092
You don't want to keep repressing so do it.
I wish I had a normal fucking brain
I'm tired of mental illness ruining my fucking life
>>7647092
don't be scared
my girlfriends sister was amazing, she like, immediately started calling her by her name and said they should go shop for clothes together and stuff like that and that she would help her with their religious parents and stuff.
if you can get anything close to that (idk your sister so..) then it'll do you good.
>>7647091
b-but you think I'm a nazi
>>7647092
the hardest thing is coming out to family
you can do it, once you do the weight of repression will fall off and you will want to yell it from the rooftops that you are going to transition
>>7647090
take your 1950s stereotypes out of here, you AGP
>>7647092
I thought you hated your sister?
>>7647097
iktf
I just did a thought experiment and tried to imagine a copy of me showing myself kindness and affection but my brain kept twisting it into me trying to tear away from myself
Then tried to imagine my body decomposing and the whole room rotting til it was indistinguishable and I imagined it perfectly and felt very peaceful
I have some fucking issues
>>7647102
s-see
>>7646976
>>7646988
>>7647107
my gf will be mad for responding cus i should be studying but it doesnt follow from that that i think you're a nazi
>research ethics
This class is too spooked. Just because I don't care if my sociological research results in the destruction of the entire human race it doesn't mean I should be stopped.
>>7647105
Naw all i want from him that day is this cute giant stuffed giraffe we saw at a store, oh and for him to do no fap the week before so I can get hella loads out of him
>>7647101
Only because our doppelgänger genetics means she's looks like a cis female version of me
Personally she's very sweet and has lots of lgbt friends. I just don't know how she will feel since I am her own brother...
She's always been there for me but I close myself off from my family.
>>7647094
Yeah ;_;
>>7647098
;-; sounds lovely
>>7647099
I need that feeling
>>7647110
That's why people like you shouldn't be allowed near clipboards.
>>7647112
soon you will look like a cis female version of u :3
>>7647110
Of course it does
Uh I might've taken more than the reccomend dose of xanax last night, and in this warm giving no shits feeling I came out via text to my mom.
>Mfw
>>7647120
desu amy is cute already
like i was at least expecting this wide jaw-ed motherfucker but this girl's going to be one of -those- transitions
>>7647110
my sociological research results in the destruction of all non-white races
Reee the teacher and some classmates kept staring at my hickey ;_;
anna got what she wanted
>>7647126
You weren't out before? I thought you said you were the black sheep of the family?
>>7647126
Well, on the bright side you don't have to worry about coming out to her anymore.
>>7647128
I know, I am jealous but excited for her
>>7647120
I hope so ;.;
>>7647128
Hugg.
>>7647110
Um you have no problem with change and fluctuation in the social order as you're basically shitting on your patriarchal privileges.
Spooks think this is insane and scares the shit out of them.
Ther will be no destruction just weird reconfiguring that will neither please you or the spooks.
>>7647108
I'm not mad, but I hope you won't get distracted too much >.<
I know it's super super hard to concentrate so long and studying is always so boooring, but it's only for this day. Tomorrow after the exam, yo can have all the fun you want! :3
I hope you'll read this message after you finished your practice exam >.<
>>7647139
Did you stop the progesterone project?
>Be me.
>Be at the local union of egoists.
>Meet qt3.14 girl.
>Approach her.
>Compliment her appearance.
>She turns to me.
>"The idea of beauty is a spook you stupid moralist."
>I don't understand.
>Entire union starts laughing at me.
>Start throwing M&Ms at me.
>What the fuck.
>Run out crying, screaming.
>tfw no gf
>>7647137
I'm gonna be scared but I have to do it
>>7647083
that was rude fransi
>>7647138
I did that text edit :3c
I'm so excited that you're actually doing it this time and you will be a girl soon and your boyfriend has agreed to help you when you're feeling a case of the represseys
How do I stop crying every night
>>7647112
>Only because our doppelgänger genetics means she's looks like a cis female version of me
IKTF... my cister is pretty cute too the bitch, can't help but feel a little ripped off >w<
>>7647083
Nespresso machines are only gendered female in German, you wouldn't call it a her in English, dummy.
>>7647139
I'm just shitposting Sass.
>>7647150
Get a boyfriend to make Juniper jealous. Post photos of you and him doing fun stuff.
Pay someone throw a brick through her window.
>>7647128
I hope I'm one of -those- transitions.
>>7647155
hey I dont want to give you a big head or anything
but you are a cute girl too
not that I think that or anything, baka
>>7647139
what did she mean by this idk if this made sense I'm really tired
am i one of -those- transitions
>>7647162
no, you're one of "those" people
very important distinction
>>7647162
Yeah probably. I'm curious as to how you'll look a year from now but I feel optimistic about your prospects.
https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXaaAqQK8Lg
When I was a kid, I'd look at girls. Wondered if boys could become girls Turns out I wanted to be one. When dysphoria entered our world, it was from deep beneath the Brain. A fissure between two gender plates. A fracture between physical and mental. The Breach.
i was 12 when the first dysphoria landed.
By the time testosterone, puberty and dopamine took it down, six years and thirty five days later, self confidence were destroyed. Tens of thousands of hormones were lost. We mourned our dead,memorialized the attack, moved on. And then, only six months later, a second attack hit.
And then the third one hit, and then the fourth. And then we learned, this was not gonna stop, this was just the beginning. We needed a new weapon.
The brain came together, pooling their resources, throwing aside old rivalry for the sake of the greater good. To fight monsters we created monsters of our own. The Repression Program was born. There were set backs at first, the masculine load interface proved too much for the original persona. Repression personalities were born.
We started winning, the Repression stopped dysphoria everywhere. But the Repressors were only as good as their brains. The Repression pilots turned into heroes, the danger had turned into propaganda, Dysphoria into jokes. We got really good at it…repressing.
Then it all changed.
How do I get good at kissing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wALe_sV7jVM
I think if a woman has a child she is obligated to be a homemaker before anything else.
(well, so long as that's feasible)
does that make me agp?
I'm one of those transitions (boy looking agp fag)
>>7647154
but im not vindictive
i want her back
im a babby trans
>>7647149
It's really nice thank you!
>>7647155
Hugg <3
>>7647154
this anon understands life
I apparently only pass as an ftm anymore
If I try girlmode i look like an NB snowflake
and the harder I try to boymode the more it makes me look like a not that convincing transman
>>7647180
Whenever I see "NB", I think of New Balance.
>>7647173
if the man is more competent at being a housewife and the woman more competent at working then that's how it needs to be. parents have an obligation to the child to do the best they can not to fullfill certain roles they are incompetent at.
Good evening /mtfg/
I hope you are all having a good day/night/whatever!! :3
>>7647185
sure, sure
usually it lines up tho
>tfw doubleplusuncute
>>7647167
d-dont get the wrong idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnZUUzlL60Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eragTuERjs0
>>7647134
Well it's different when they suspected I had degenerate tendencies that could be affected by conversion therapy and that their socioeconomic pressure could somehow break me into straightening me out.
Spending the holidays without my close family really broke me, but not in the way they had hoped
There's no going back.
>>7647135
Lmao, you just made my day.
>>7647142
My cashflow is somewhat non existent my friend. I don't know when, but it will happen.
>>7647153
I thought my incohernt use of buzzwords in a semi sensical structure would add to the shitpost happiness :(
Tl;dr.
I too, was shitposting
i want to try and dissapear again but im afraid of isolation
*an air raid siren goes off in my neighbors' house*
i was spooked for a bit
Poor Sertii... >_<
>>7647192
Isolation kills you nep, it exacerbates our neurosis and makes us depressed, please don't dissappear.
We need a community to thrive, even if it is just a hatian mud cake nutrition analisys web site.
>>7647190
a-anon
are you implying that i'm the man in this relationship ;_;
>>7647175
Why did you break up? I hope it wasn't because you were petty and vindictive.
That would be a little ironic given your reluctance to take my advice.
>>7647197
Can confirm this, the month I recently spent with almost no social contact nearly killed me.
>>7647198
I'm sorry
I ruin everything
I am the man
I will always be a man
>Tfw manic episode passes and you're left with a cold and depression.
Sass.jpg
>>7647201
>the month I recently spent with almost no social contact nearly killed me.
Fucking normies, man
>Re-reading Neruda's Heights of Macchu Picchu even though I literally posted part of it yesterday.
This is the most intense poetry I've ever read.
>>7647205
I've been in the hikkineet lifestyle before. It almost destroyed me. Never again.
>>7647200
i had a mental health breakdown and she left me
i dont think either of us have the capacity to be vindictive
though she keeps reminding me that she hates me now and is still mad at me which is really upsetting
part of the reason i want to vanish again
>>7647197
true but idk i get more pain from here and other places than i get benefit so idk anymore
>>7647204
hugg sass
is that hot sauce in production yet? that would help with the cold for sure
>>7647208
Was it before you started uni or between your degrees? How are you going to stop yourself from falling back into the hikkineet life after your master's finishes?
>>7647202
no anon it's okay
we can both be the girls
i'm sorry ;_;
come here and i'll hug you
>>7647215
uwuw
I hate being a man
>>7647207
>poetry
>>7647214
Before uni. I spent the year between degrees doing small jobs and I had a gf anyway. I have to stop myself because if I don't prevent this from happening again it means I have to go back to Chile, which means I can't transition, and I have to live with my horrible family again. I would rather die.
>>7647196
you can do better than sertii, gloomy
>>7647218
>Not liking Neruda.
>>7647216
you're not a man
you're my little girl who makes my heart go doki doki
>>7647207
Inused to think art, literature and music were at their best and the most honest when devoid of social, economic, or political commentary, because they were somehoy channeling into our essence as human beings. I was so wrong about these assumptions. Was I spooked tho?
>>7647221
Poetry is factually the least engaging artform. It's like books but takes even less effort.
>>7647224
Please don't troll me.
>>7647224
Poetry is really nice, but it is rather easy to write if you're good at it
Even with rhyming poems you can write entire ballads in an hour or two
Non-rhyming poems are easy as hell and require no effort
>>7647219
>and I had a gf anyway
JUST WHEN I WAS STARTING TO FEEL SYMPATHY FOR YOU
at least you have good motivations for doing so - nothing like fear to keep you on the right course
>>7647228
"lol they're saying things that challenge my view of reality so obviously if I call them a troll they'll back off"
Doesn't change the facts, sweaty.
>>7647229
Quite so.
>>7647224
I guess there's people who think pizza is just junk food, but then one day you eat a slice from some pizzeria who have honed their craft and poured their souls into it and it's so good and up there with the best food you've ever tasted.
And you understand that pizza is not junk food.
>>7647230
Fear is a powerful motivator, eh?
Also my relationship was nearly 4 years long.
I really miss her sometimes but our breakup was complicated and we decided that we aren't gonna be talking for a long time, if we ever do talk again, that is.
>>7647234
>>7647235
Don't try to fool yourself into thinking pizza is a healthy staple of your diet just because it's higher quality.
>>7647238
I have a lot of images titled "condescension" and I'm not afraid to use them.
sertii post cut scars
>>7647210
You'll find someone better. Juniper's too memey and not serious enough anyway. Hard to speak to a lot of the time.
>>7647220
Mh? What does she mean by that?
I looked at her exam questions and I don't understand anything, even with the solutions D:
Why do (relatively) early transitioners try to tell potential late transitioners that transition isn't so bad when they themselves have/will have had it much easier?
>>7647248
Warum ist die Banane krumm?
>>7647248
Because they'll end up doing it anyway and it's better they do it now than even later.
>>7647242
idk if ill find anyone at all desu
it was hard for her to ever take me seriously though so i know what you mean
>>7647239
>Uses healthiness to asses quality, texture, taste and experience of consumption of food.
Yikes, I bet you think there's good foods.and bad foods. You're missing out Krabbs
>>7647186
a new australian trip?
where you from fampai???
>tfw every time my heart leaps it's only so that it can crash back into the ground
anon-kun was my friend :(
>>7647258
all food is poison and sex isn't real
>>7647258
>eats anything with carbs and uses "muh experience" as an excuse
>doesn't live on a diet of chicken, creatine, and their own cum
>>7647262
why not live off somebody's else's cum tho. your cum gets kinda watery on hrt
>>7647262
>and their own cum
i like the way you think, anon
>>7647204
>mentally ill tranny meme
stahp
>>7647259
Hi there :3
Tassie! What about you?
>>7647265
You're just asking for hiv doing that.
>>7647270
I still feel kinda out of place here since dysphoria really is all I get. I've never had real problems in my life so I don't have real emotions.
>>7647271
are you who I think you are?
How do I come to terms with being a hon?
>>7647272
i'm fairly certain it's very hard to get HIV from swallowing unless you have open wounds or something
4 days away from this cancerous board
won't be posting again, just wanted to let you know you didn't claim me
>>7647271
Hey!
Tassie is almost as shit as SA.
>>7647253
I'd argue against that though. There is a point where it really doesn't get worse.
>>7647277
Lucky, I get tons of canker sores thanks to my dad's genes.
>>7647286
>having kidneys for when the israelis come to get you
Buddy I'm gonna survive the rapture while you'll have wasted time on pizza and other decadent pleasures of the flesh.
How are Forever 21's skirts? They all seem really cheap, and the boy clothes I got from there once were decent.
>>7647292
never mind
>>7647294
dresses*
>>7647292
It's like a retirement home. Especially to live in.
https://canipunchnazis.com/
>>7647302
Traitors go straight to hell.
>>7647302
>massive gif where html5 would be better
triggered
>>7647302
>canipunchnazis
Not without an assault charge.
>>7647310
I live in an okay part, but the overall state is stuck in pause and there isn't any work.
I'm looking to move to Melbourne potentially as soon as February.
>>7647302
that's really rude
is there any hope of finding someone during transition, before going full time? this shit is so fucking difficult to do all by yourself
>>7647322
nigga i'm not complaining about the content
just the format
>Amy: Spartan, I need your power.
[screaming]
>Amy: SPARTAN, more power right now!
Spartan: I am a spartan, the prince of all repressors. Why should I give my power to a girl that ranks below me? Tell me! Tell me why!
[Dysphoria and Amy continue fighting]
Dysphoria: [to Amy] You've lasted longer then expected, but your final hour has arrived.
>Amy: Spartan, what are you waiting for? You're our last hope.
[screaming at the top of her lungs]
>Amy: Give me your power!
Spartan: [to Amy] Fine! Just take it! But, Amy, finish him now!
>>7647317
Oh? That sucks... Have you lined up any work yet? :3
>>7647302
try to punch me and Ill put you into the ground. No mercy for traitors even if theyre children
>>7647327
Redemption arc for spartan uwu
>>7647329
Not yet. I've saved up enough to stay for a while, and I have a friend there who is keen to help.
That's why I said potentially.
>>7647327
did you see this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBl1L1G1XCE
>don't ever pass because big shoulders, manly shaped face + jew nose
>but boobs are too big to hide in boymode
so this is what hell looks like
>>7647332
>weak Sophie counter-threatening someone
It's cute, desu.
who else repressed themselves to hondom?
how many years did you actively know you were trans and not take hormones (willingly repressing or gatekeeping)?
>>7647336
I can't wait to actually be on hrt again
>>7647343
my aunt straight up asked me if i thought i was was trans at 16
one of my biggest regrets is not coming out then
>>7647343
I did
I willingly repressed because I knew I would never pass from 12 to 29
>>7647343
Sixteen to (almost) twenty two.
Six years? Fuck.
>tfw ket STILL didn't arrive
Not even memeing it should have arrived today
>>7647348
well actually, from 12-16ish, I was scared and knew I would get literally murdered by my dad but by the time I knew what I needed to do I was already a man
>>7647340
pic related
>>7647348
sheen, how much weight have you lost so far this year
>>7647343
I've lowkey known I'm trans for like six years and only started two months ago. Starting before however was practically impossible for me. I have no idea what I'll look like in the future but whatever.
>>7647359
not enough
>>7647362
remember the parable of the hare and the tortoise, sheen
>>7647343
oh and repression was from about 12 when i started getting bullied for 'being a faggot' until like 18 / 19 when i eventually broke down after using self harm and drinking until i was sick to keep repressing about being trans and liking guys
>>7647334
Thats awesome then, and very handy! :)
Sounds like you have been planning for a while?
Melbourne is actually a really lovely place most of the time, I really like it :3
>>7647369
Not really. It was a joke at Christmas that snowballed.
I've never spent more than a few hours in Melbourne either.
I'm a spontaneous person.
Even talking to the doctor about transitioning tomorrow. No plans at all. Just all spur of the moment.
>>7647290
Oh i get it. Ok. Send hi to the reptaurs for me.
>>7647302
>Tfw I'll never get to kick the shit out of a skinhead again.
;~;
Poor babbies need their safe spaces.
>>7647390
>again
>super horny
>don't want to touch penis but too lazy to clean my ass out
Do I just blueball myself till srs?
>>7647378
Sounds like there is a lot going on for you at the moment :S
I hope you get the help you need then anon :3
>>7647403
if you were really "super horny", you wouldn't care that your butt is dirty and just go for it
this week will be good
>tfw will never beat a nazi into bloody pulp
why live?
>>7647414
want my adress?
>>7647410
b-but I don't want to smell my own shit
what a day
first my dog vomits at night, making her fur all dirty and the house smelly
and now my application to the finnish school i was applying to, got denied
..a-atleast I still got to pay for my hormones...
>>7647417
noseplugs, or spray lots of air freshener in the room
>>7647415
Yes pelase
>>7647390
>Rick and Morty
kino
>>7647414
>tfw will never be as good at leftism as pisspiggranddad
>>7647416
>>7647419
puru says why would anyone want to apply to somewhere in finland
>>7647419
>going to school in Finland
>>7647430
An ex-classmate of mine is studying there and invited me to study with her
Visited her and her bf in Tampere, and it was really comfy and nice.
They showed me the school as well, and it looked pretty cool.
>>7647434
y-yeah..?
>>7647415
sure, but i'm going to try to hug your troublesome ideologies away instead
i don't pass well enough to be allowed to hit women
>be me
>be polack
>try estrogen
>feel good
Fugg
>>7647445
>tfw even your ideological enemies dont want to beat you up
how can I satisfy my self hatred
>>7647430
i didn't know puru was finnish
i thought ante was the only finnish trip here
>>7647448
i'm afraid you're not quite intolerable enough for that
>>7647448
By turning your self-loathing into self-love.
>>7647448
By showing us more of that good taste you keep posting. Keep posting those nazi girls!
>arrive 5 minutes late for class
>there's no Fucking desks empty
>fuck it, I'm not making a racket
>leave
Whelp, guess I'm missing at least one weekly quiz
>>7647462
Sounds like every day of my life
>>7647441
was it summer or winter when you visited?
>>7647469
I thought you were a mechanic or something
>>7647473
I am.
Doesn't mean I don't have similar situations in other regards.
Also
I have a spending problem
>>7647477
yeah, but you spend all your money on useful shit like high-quality tools
the rest of us blow it on video games and clothes we're too scared to wear
>>7647471
Winter
>>7647478
But is $230 8 piece swivel head impact socket set really that worth it?
>The answer is yes
Why be scared of clothes tho.
You'll never know your style if you never put it on
>>7647407
Me too!
It's not too bad though, I can always try in Vic.
Devin Townsend Project just announced they're gonna be playing the entirety of Ocean Machine at the concert I'm going to this rules.
http://www.thecanary.co/2017/01/26/refugee-drowned-tourists-laughed-told-go-back-home-video/
>alt-rights will defend this
>>7647343
I knew I was trans at 14
only really repressed from 18-20 (and I was fully masculinised by 18 anyway), 14-18 was because I was living with my parents still
>>7647489
>http://www.thecanary.co/2017/01/26/refugee-drowned-tourists-laughed-told-go-back-home-video/
they threw a lifering right next to him though
>>7647489
Refugees are often illegal immigrants, the geneva convention is the only reason they aren't gunned down at the shore.
It's their own fault for trying to invade somebody elses country
>>7647508
>the geneva convention
Literally which one
I am an autist when it comes to people saying "the geneva convention" as if there's only one
>>7647508
>>7647510
suisse comicon
>>7647510
>I am an autist
you could have just stopped here
>>7647510
what's up you gigantic meme
>>7647514
>>7647524
KATE FUCK OFF
>>7647525
i had a dream that you appeared at the foot of my bed looking exactly like this
i think you might have had cloven feet too actually
>>7647522
I mean it's literally not part of "the Geneva Conventions" though, even though it was signed in Geneva.
>>7647525
ilu valq
>>7647514
>bad person dies
>I point out that he's a bad person
>I'm edgy
???
>>7647534
help im not in the discord anymore, can someone give me invite?
>>7647544
i'll do alright i think. not great. just alright
>>7647542
Which?
>>7647549
I'm sorry
Im sorry
Im sorry
Im sorry
>dream of old qt weirdo gf and cuddle her in bed
I-I want a gf...
>>7647560
Oh wow an Anon-bully who apologizes? That's new :O
new thread!
>>7647565
>>7647565
>>7647565
>>7647563
Dreams....;~;