Straight cis male here I dont consider trans people to be their

>>7531649
No, because those people are hons, and everyone here hates hons.

>>7531649
lolwat why would they buy a vag before electrolysis. What a waste of money

>>7531660
Or buy a vag before FFS. Holy fucking shit, that brow and hairline.

I'm MtF trans and I do the same damn thing. If another MtF passes, I probably won't know she's trans unless I clue into something subtle that gives her away because a fisherman can spot another fisherman and all that jazz. If she doesn't pass for whatever reason (bad genetics, medical condition keeping her off hormones, etc.) but is obviously trying to (i.e. women's clothes, make-up, whatever) I'll treat her like a woman and call her "she" and all that. If they're like that dipshit Justin Riley on YouTube that claims he's a trans woman but still goes by Justin (not even adding one letter and making it fucking Justine) and doesn't bother with his voice or appearance, then it's pretty fucking obvious that they're not really trans and are a trans-trender or something similar. Same goes for "FtMs" that wear makeup and dresses showing off their boobs and then get pissed when people think they're women. Fucking retards make us all look bad.

>>7531649
This is where my taxes are going to.

>>7531681
Fuck, I wish my country would pay for surgery for me. Or for anything, really. I had to eat bulk-bag rice and beans for weeks after I got my appendix out.

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>>7531649
hahahaha

>>7531739
Wtf I hate my people now

>>7531649
No OP, I try my best and appreciate it when you leave me alone.

What does anger me is that person in the pic, who is even less passable than me and has so much stubble I fucking winced has something I'll never have.

>>7531727
The surgery is botched anyways. They don't use all of the skin, just the penial shaft.

>>7531739
>There are people who can't just be satisfied with not getting gendered at all

I don't understand. It was a relief to me to almost never hear "sir" or "he" again.

I'm trans and I don't consider other trans people to be their desired gender regardless of how well they do or don't pass (myself included ofc). All of this fighting over who is more or less trans is pointless. We're all the sex we were born as.

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>>7531797
>what is srs

>>7531803
That's creating a permanent wound to create the illusion of the opposite sex. You're not literally the opposite sex......

>>7531778
Not if you get the scrotal inversion thing some Thai doctors do.

>>7531827
Wait.... Not all doctors do that? But then how would it even resemble a vagina without using scrotal tissue? When the scrotal tissue is the same tissue that is used to form the labia in natal females? You can't form labia with penile tissue.

>>7531833
Most doctors avoid it because it's too complicated and takes too long to heal.

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>>7531839
I never masturbated during pueberty so that makes me just as much trutrans ehehhe

>>7531822
>>7531827
Laly Post

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>>7531845
Then why the fuck have I not just gotten an orchi already?! No really, I was under the impression that shit was majorly important to have for SRS?!

>>7531803
>what is srs

A process by which a penis is bisected, inverted and roughly formed into the shape of a functioning female sexual organ. I'm not trying to be mean here, but a neo-vagina is literally an inverted penis. Even the term neo-vagina is giving it too much credit imo.

>>7531850
>she almost fell for the SRS meme
lmao

>>7531649
Tranny here and I agree.

>>7534215
I'm still getting it, I just obviously need to research this way more now. I still don't see how proper labia could be formed without scrotal tissue.

>>7531649

Why do so many "straight" ""cis"" """males""" hang around /lgbt/?

>>7534293
they orbit around that tight boipucci

>>7531739
Well , ive done some research and it turns out that the presenter reffered to her by "him", "a thing" and "it", so yeah.

>>7534293
I'm a virgin. I just want to have sex, even if its with someone who was a recent owner of a penis

What the fuck do people do this?

Doesn't your nerves get fucked which means you don't feel anything around the vagina?

>>7531677
>Fucking retards make us all look bad.

They make you guys look fucking horrifying. I didn't give two shits about trans people until retards like that started popping up everywhere. Now 9/10 times I will advocate against trans people

>>7531649
nope

i don't either

>>7531649
I agree. I understand you want to be a women/man. But if you don't look like a women/man you're not, or as least try.

>>7534912
Yes you still feel things, full clit orgasm, g spot everything. Provided they don't give you an axe wound surgery.

>>7531850
Your scrotal tissue is used don't believe these people unless you get your SRS done in shitty hellhole the tissue is used to make the vagina look good and not like the axe wound mentioned earlier.

>prioritizing surgery before facial hair removal

WHY

>>7534438
That's a Fucking lie.

>>7535050
This.
Only a total AGP has SRS before FFS.

>>7535003
You're a Fucking liar.

Getting srs means that you'll never cum again.

>>7535539
Heh, tell that to my multiple, minute+ long orgasms.

t. post transition, post SRS tranny

>>7535547
Lies

>>7535680
You're missing out, senpai

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>>7531739
>MFW I have conditioned myself to call everyone by their names and never use the pronouns EVER
You would be surprise how well this works at not pissing people off and pissing them off at the same time.

>>7531649
I'm MTF and I think the same way as you. I don't see how this point of view would anger any sane person.

>not going full nullo
>wanting anything to do with your male genitalia
Just lob that nasty shit off.

>>7531649
Yes it angers me. It angers me because I'm sick and tired of seeing American culture become more polluted and degenerative because of the homosexual agenda. I am sick and tired of seeing gays, trannies and other freaks being promoted in the media and in our children's classrooms by the PC brigade. I am sick and tired of watching our constitutional rights being taken away just to cater to a very small minority of mentally disturbed beings. I am sick and tired of watching the slow wussification of America's youth, and how all boys are suddenly turning into girls. This is not the America that my father and his father fought for. And this is not the America that I will tolerate! We must fight back against the evil homosexual lobby who are pushing their sick sodomy agenda on our culture! And that dude in the picture belongs in a mental hospital with a straightjacket on. Get triggered, you flaming faggots!

Make America Straight Again, starting January 20, 2017!!!

>>7537800
kek trump is pro lgbt

>>7537800

Girl this is the weakest troll I ever did seen

>>7531649
real question is, why should you give a damn about it?

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>>7531649
tfw this person who's making no effort to pass is getting vuvu surgery and I'll likely never be able to afford it

>>7531649
She's like literally just woke up from a major surgery, nobody looks good like that

>>7537859
No woman wakes up from a major surgery looking like a man, complete with caveman brow and stubble.

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>>7537800
>he thinks a celebrity businessman from new york city gives a shit about whether people are straight or gay

>>7531649
good to see egoraptor finally got a vagina

>>7537844
life isn't fair

>>7531739
>>7534438

>Laura Kate Dale and Fraser Millward have come to agree that the situation which took place at the Xbox stand at Eurogamer on Sunday 29th September was an unfortunate misunderstanding on both sides. It has now been made clear that Fraser did not refer to Laura as an 'it' or a 'thing' or a 'he', and these claims have now been fully retracted by Laura and she is sorry for the hurt this caused. Fraser caused offence to Laura on stage when he publicly misgendered her by addressing her as 'this person'. Laura was also upset by statements which she saw as suggesting that she was not female. Fraser is sorry he said this, and for the pain he inadvertently caused Laura. Both parties wish to put the situation behind them and consider this matter now resolved.

>>7537624
Wtf is a Piss Owl?

I assume it is a new shit tier meme?

>>7531649
No, that's completely reasonable. I am MtF.

>>7531649
I kind of like Laura in the Jimquisition podcast, but it's too bad that she is so bad at passing.

>>7537859
You could shave before the surgery. I did.

This is why I hate hons. They think that getting SRS will automatically make them a woman. No hon, if you want to be a woman you have to put in the effort to LOOK like one. Like seriously get FFS and remove your facial hair! For most trannies, if you don't have FFS I'm sorry but you will just look like a man with a pussy.

>>7540660
they know they don't pass and won't pass so SRS is their last resort to be a woman-not to mention that in most countries you need it to change gender

I know a lot of trans women aren't blessed with genetics (to put it lightly), but really? Can't put in enough effort to remove your facial hair? I do a better job with lotion and an epiwand.

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>>7531827
>>7531833
>>7531845
>>7531850

wtf is this misinformation?

any well known srs surgeon does it 95% the same. all use scrote and shaft. all preserve sensation. no "technique" is inherently that much better than the others.

thailand was a meme perpetuated by hons that is thankfully dying off. the big names over there do a decent job, but they don't do anything special and these days are hardly even cheaper than a US surgeon.

>>7542557
Yeah I looked up Marci Bowers here in my state, and it seems she uses a method that might even be superior to Thai surgeons, I don't know what those people were on about.

>>7542557
Its actually the opposite thai doctors do axe wound surgeries. They had a documentary on tv here a few weeks ago about a tranny going to thailand to get surgery done because she didn't wanna wait doctors approval here. She literally went to a butcher shop that was turned into a private practice where a doctor was preforming a shit ton of surgeries in a really shitty unsterile looking room.

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>>7542557
Superiority thing is a meme but suporn does seriously use a unique technique. He's the only surgeon that fully removes the testicle skin and creates a mesh out of it to stretch it extremely far. That's why he's unique in requiring more vigorous dilation and a longer stay int he hospital. Keep in mind though that this technique only benefits people that have small penises and don't want a skin graft from elsewhere. He's also the only one that creates his 'secondary sensate organ' which has no real anatomical relation to anything cis woman have and is really just him sticking some arguably u necessary sensitive extra material around the labia.

Don't spread this 'all surgeons are the same' bs further. They're all good but they're not all the same. Which surgeon is right for who is based on what they want in their surgery but every single one will give you a decent sensate more or less deep enough vagina.

>>7542708
There's backdoor srs butchers in every country anon. It's not a thai thing.

>>7542557
Question: Is it possible to actually see your lips/mound through your panties? Or is that not something that's possible for trans women?

>>7542833
That varies for both cis and trans women. Not everyone's vagina looks the same and not everyone's pubes grow the same.

>>7542708
>rushing serious major permanent surgery
How fucking dumb do you have to be?

>>7542833
it's within the wide range of normal, I can say that for sure. my skin gathers in a way I'm not completely happy with but there are always revisions that even normal women get. Pretty much what >>7543015 said. yes I can wear tight enough bottoms to see the shape.

>>7542721
that's more accurate than them all being the same. everyone has to research and figure out who's best for them. twins could go to two different surgeons, and would get totally different results.

when it comes to "best" it's a pretty even playing field. there are variations including the small dick skin stretching, but it's not a skill thing like everhons would make it out to be. any doc could do that but for various reasons will choose to do it or not do it. they have preferences. overall the surgery is mostly the same, the same male skin ends up in the same place in the vag.

it's not like thai surgeons produce a better vag than nature and in the US they throw out all the nerves and skin, and use a leather punch to give you any old hole. you get labia, depth, a clit, sensation, and the possibility of light lubrication as long as you don't go to a butcher.

>>7543149
people get desperate, and ironically the same system that drives them to a decision like that is designed to keep people like them from making such a colossal mistake. except the system doesn't offer an alternative route to do anything other than pursue their trans feelings.

>>7543303
You're over all not wrong but:
>the same male skin ends up in the same place in the vag.
Is not true and the real difference between surgeons isn't skill it's who trained them and whether or not they've changed it up since their mentor. That is a major divide but not a divide in skill. (except for bowers, I'm not sure she's ever seen a vagina)

>>7542721
>is really just him sticking some arguably u necessary sensitive extra material around the labia.

It's not even around the labia, it's around the urethra. Because everyone know tonguing the urethra is supposed to feel good.

>>7542833
Yes, I have quite puffy vulva so it's easily seen through pants.