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Blaire White gets btfo by a 12 year old transtrender.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhuRGrYeBJA
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>>7521872
Blaire White is a hon compared to this kid
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>>7521872
Wtf I love transkids now
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so how many pushup bras are you wearing in your videos blaire?
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>>7521872

transgender children should be ilegall
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>>7522418
Buttburt Blaire spotted
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>>7521872
Considering this is what Rob looked like, no wonder he doesn't want young transitioners around?

It's jealousy at its pettiest form.
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>>7522118
This is so true.
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>>7522512
True she's really lucky to have been born rich otherwise she would not have her fame or an opportunity to vent her jealous rage at the younger generation.

I mean she looked pig disgusting before ffs.
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Holy shit btfo
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>>7522578
Fuck off hon
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>>7522583
I never will blaire
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>>7522583
Stop using eyeshadow on your chest Blaire!
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>>7522583
How does it feel to btfo'd by a child?
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>>7522583
lol hi Blaire
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>>7521872
12 year old calls Blaire "Honey". Holy shit she is a young hon.
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>>7522605
She has every right to call Blaire White a Hon
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>>7521872
BITCH I SUBSCRIBED SO MOTHERFUCKING FAST I AM GAGGGGGGGEDDDDDDDD
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>>7522418
Fuck off Robbie

>>7522512
This. He's just jelly of all the early transitioners being more feminine and cuter than him

Honestly he strikes me off as this catty gay drag queen tbqh
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Why does "Sophie Rainbows" look like a mix between Jazz Jennings and Bailey Jay?
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This thread is fucking ridiculous lmao
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this is so stupid
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will blaire ever recover?
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>>7522370
Don't forget the painted on cleavage.
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>>7522737
she can't hit back a child. sophie already won, she transitioned at 11
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>>7522815
doxxing a kid, cuz the kid rekt ur fav youtuber?
im fucking DECEASED LMAOOO
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>>7522815
and how bitter are you? leave the kid's life alone. if you have a problem make a response video? go on honey
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>>7522815
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>>7522815
Do it desu, the kid looks like a boy in a wig.
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>>7522828
He looks like zoolander here
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>>7522829
oh so you're an admin now? sure honey
also why would you say you made someone kill themselves like it's something to be proud of? you're fucked honey
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>>7522837
Less than Blair
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>>7522845
you are obviously the angry one honey!
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>>7522828
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>>7522846
I'd gladly fap to a Blair joi vid, your just jealous.
That kid is clearly a boy and you can tell the jaw is going to get more masc
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>>7522815
Okay Hongie
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>>7522877
Why would I be jealous of people that destroy their bodies because their parents didn't give them enough attention?
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>>7522815
You are a vile reprehensible subhuman, Robbie. I want to give you the beating of your life.

t. naturally violent late transitioner
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>>7522877
>Buttmad white-knighting chaser grasping at straws
You are obviously a fag if you would fap to that flamboyant drag queen, funpai.
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>>7522900
>Chaser
I've yet to see a real tranny, it's just one of my online prawn fetishes
T.AGP straight fag
>>7522892
>Toxic masculinity
>Ever passing
>>7522885
So your agreeing with me the kid is a fag?
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>>7522877
I'm sure you'd fap to the kid too, pedo
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>>7522915
>T.AGP straight fag

For some reason I have an intense desire to forcibly inject you with hormones until you look like the trap in your pic, I think you just gave me a new fetish.
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>>7522915
so you're a beta numale getting cucked by online trannies got it
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>>7522884
>hongie
Implying I'm apengie

>>7522892
t. upset hon
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>>7522915
>his waifu got insulted on the internet
>has to defend "her" honor to death even if it means shitting on more feminine/passable people than "her"
LOL, it's pretty pathetic bro.
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ITT: Angry hons
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>>7521872

>https://youtu.be/NhuRGrYeBJA?t=5m30s

Man, she is lucky she got to transition early enough that she can say gender dysphoria is that close to a normal mindset and that depression is far below.

Anyway, good on her for putting that bitch on blast. Blaire is either a bitter, envious hon or just said that bullshit because that's what her conservatard viewers want to hear.
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>>7522918
T.hon
>>7522922
That's a real girl anon
>>7522923
>Cucked
>By online trannies
Kek Nice try
>>7522939
I learned about this chick about 3 weeks ago, my waifu is 2d but Nice try mad non
>>7522953
This, they are mad that a tranny isn't a shit eating progressive faggot
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Late transitioners like Blaire should be gassed tbqh
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>>7522840
The delusion that they're some cosmic judge with power over life and death is probably one of the few things they have to cling to in their empty bitter life.

I mean just think of how pathetic they must be to get off on bullying literal children so they can feel superior to somebody, anybody.
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>literal nobody supposedly getting rekt by a 12 year old nobody
>everyone gives attention to said nobodies
You people should ignore and hide all Blaire White threads, for your own safety.
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>>7522980
AGP is the master race now anon, give it 2-5 years before we take over
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>>7522992
>2nd most popular tranny on jewtube
>No one
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>>7522979
>if I just white knight the tranny I internet stalk and jack off to enough they'll finally become my waifu!
Many such cases. Sad!
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>>7522994

Why would that be?
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>>7523001
>2nd most popular tranny on jewtube
You do know that's a point in my favor, right?
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>>7522972
>she is lucky she got to transition early enough that she can say gender dysphoria is that close to a normal mindset and that depression is far below.

She has no idea. And thats a good thing. Thats why she can be normal person. As oppose to all of us.
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>>7521872
HOLY SHIT.

Not even a tranny, but she got rekt hard.
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>>7521872
This video is hilarious.
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did anyone else notice that despite being 12 and having long hair "sophia" only looks like a typical 12 year old boy and doesn't pass at all. Looks like skull autist was right again
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>>7523158
how is she going to be anormal person when she doesn't pass
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>20 push up bras
Will Robbie ever recover?
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>your gorg
holy shit, these late transitioner transbians are creepy af
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>>7523838
>>7523854
spotted the robbie white doing damage control
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>>7523890
How is that creepy? Please explain miss autismo

t. exclusive club member of young transitioners
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>>7523838
>>7523854
I was kinda wondering the same thing. Plus she moves like a gay little boy. But she's only 12, after some time on estrogen and actually getting to live as a girl she'll turn out normal-ish.
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>>7522915
>>Toxic masculinity
stop larping and get a job
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>>7522979
>This, they are mad that a tranny isn't a shit eating progressive faggot
t. hon
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>>7523838
>t. hon

>>7523890
>t. hon

>>7524191
>t. hon
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>>7523838
>t. hon

>>7522979
>t. hon

>>7524310
>t. hon

>>7524325
>t. hon
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>>7524191
its because genetics are just as important as starting age. some people will never pass but some will even though they started a bit later. its not this fixed scale like people on this board would like to believe
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is this the future?
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>>7524191
>she moves like a gay boy
Are you sure you aren't talking about Blaire actually?
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>>7521872
That kid is a tranny? He acts like a little flamboyant gay dude in that video.
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>>7523838
>>7524191
>>7524360
>>7524748
Salty samefag (Blaire)
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>>7524778
Really makes you think.
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>>7524797
>blaire using multiple computers to badmouth a kid that actually passes and is more intelligent than him
lol
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>>7524644
Let's hope not, we don't need an army of alt-right hons on ours midst.
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>>7524818
Oh yeah Im taking the extra effort of posting on 4 different computers to post on 4chan. Also I never said in my post the kid doesn't pass as a girl on looks, but the mannerism is just way to much of a flamboyant gay dude than that of a cis girl. The only thing that triggers me about this kids looks are those nails I don't know any cis girl who wears those kind of nails as a kid.

If she were to act more like a girl then a gay dude she'd totally pass.
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>>7524897
A lot of cis girls have this annoying phase tho, when she settles into adolescence she'll get over it and delete her old videos.
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>>7521872
bitch better release an album with charli
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>>7521872
>tounge pop
>eye roll
>clap
no.
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>>7524923
>annoying phase yes
>sounding like gay dudes no
She clearly never was raised as a girl and never learned actual girl mannerism. It seems like she watched way to much main stream media and clearly tried to copy that, pretty much what flamboyant gay men do to be more feminine.
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>>7524986
>pretty much what flamboyant gay men do to be more feminine.
That's a thing? Lmao
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>>7524897
>doesn't pass as a girl on looks
>mannerism is just way to much of a flamboyant gay dude than that of a cis girl
= Blaire White :^)
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>>7521872
>kids should be allowed to transition

are you trannies insane?
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>>7525097
>Huge man head
>passing
eww
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>>7525097
Embarrassing
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>>7525097
Lmao
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>>7525097
I'm glad these pictures still exist so that Blaire never forgets what she was, and what she fundamentally still is.
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>>7525097
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>>7525029
>kids should be forced to strictly conform to gender roles because if a boy wears a dress it might cause the sun to explode
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I dont get all the hate against Blair, you guys just come accross as a bunch of judgmental assholes, also wtf is a hon
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>>7525576
>newfag
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>>7525576

hating on Blaire is now cool and edgy. A hon is pretty much Caitlyn Jenner. Only without the money to get bad surgery
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>>7525568
>if a boy wears a dress it might cause the sun to explode

Okay, I went and put on a dress and the Sun has not exploded. Do I have to be a boy or can I be a "boy"? FUCKING EXPLODE THE SUN YOU PIECE OF SHIT, FUCK THE WORLD
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>>7525097
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>>7524797
Yeah Blaire used her phone to make the top 3 comments and her computer for the last one.
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>>7525592
I don't know, the first time I saw Blaire I thought she was cis but now every time I look at her I cannot unsee her honness.
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>>7525097
>dat bulge
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>>7525507
I was about to look for this, says so much about that fucking skull size
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>>7525592
I wanted to like Blair. I still do. Who doesn't love triggering sjw's. When she went for kids it is different. When Ray Blanchard retweets her hating on kids she is an Uncle Tom of the highest order.
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>>7525906
Is Blanchard right wing?
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i think this girl is actually retarded

blaire is clearly talking about actual HRT, whereas this girl is acting like shes talking about blockers and the whole shebang..

if they have signs of being transgender, get them on blockers and counseling until they're old enough to transition (hrt, surgery, etc)
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>>7526017
I don't know. I suspect. He is anti child transitioning.
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>>7522877
>clocking a literal child
>being this insecure
Sad.
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>>7526017
Yeah he is. He also believes homosexuality can be cured and typically gets his research funding from right wing organizations.
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>>7526180
If you do that, then you'll end up 6'2'' like Nicole, estrogen is what fuses the growth plates
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>>7526411
I should also mention that he was one of the primary proponents of converting pedophilia into a medically recognized "sexual orientation" on par with bi and homosexuality, something that's often blamed on "the liberals."
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>>7521872

My interpretation of what Blaire was saying was more along the lines of "just because your boy likes girl things or girl likes boy things DOESN'T mean they're trans"

she obviously wasn't that cut and dry with it. But that's where her concern probably stems from with the stupid ass mother being a typical stupid ass mother.

Stupid ass mothers are then magnified if they're raging dykes.
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>>7526417
well there must be a way to tell these people apart, can't just let them merge into the general populace.
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>>7526180
but what's old enough to transition according to hons like you? i'm glad i had my parents support and doctors agreed at a young age i have gender dysphoria. i was able to get on blockers at 11 and estrogen at 12. if i had people like you gatekeeping me i would end up looking unpassable like many people who started too late.

why not support young people transitioning instead of acting jealous?
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>>7527101

So what was the story of how you started transition?
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>>7527405
i was diagnosed with gender dysphoria and i got blockers then estro. you know the way trans people get on hrt?
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>>7527522

Obviously. I mean did you come out on your own or did your parents ask if something was up with you and what were their reactions. Then how did they came to the decision to treat you properly? Also, does it seem to you that giving kids estrogen at 12 was something new at the time it was done to you, or that it was something that/those doctor(s) had been doing for a while? Also, what region was this?
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>>7527559
You probably already know this, but you're talking to a troll. Someone who transitioned at 12 wouldn't be here.
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>>7527563
Someone said it. He's been spamming his transition age since yesterday. Who does that.
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>>7526180
Are you retarded or just an ignorant piece of shit who doesn't understand jack shit about transgender people?

If you put them on estrogen late you will inevitably cause them to become lanky (think Nicole Maines). Late transitioners like Blaire should stop gatekeeping people who actually have the potential to become more feminine than them.
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>>7527559
i have felt i was a girl since i was very little and kept saying it to my parents. i refused to wear boy clothing and wanted girl things instead. they made me go to a therapist and they diagnosed me with gender dysphoria. i went to another therapist to make sure and she agreed i had it. so my parents decided to make me happy an get me on blockers. i started being myself after that and i got on estrogen. i'm 18 now

>>7527563
i can be here if i want to. i am trans

>>7527566
he? excuse me but you shouldn't misgender people that is very rude. i don't care if you hate me but you shouldn't be an asshole like that
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>>7527563

They're not trying to rub it in anyone's faces, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. If they were trying to make anyone feel bad, I would have dismissed them out of hand as a bitter hon trying to make others feel as bad as they do. I do see that there's no real reason for an early transitioner to ever visit this place, but then how else could I get my answers? I could try someone's tumblr like princesschrysalis29 or something, I suppose. But that's a cold call compared to this situation.
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>>7527579
You're prolly a cis dude, maybe gay RPing as a girl. Hence the he
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>>7527584
calling a trans girl a cis dude is misgendering and you shouldn't do it. why do you have so much hate?
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>>7527586
Why hate? If you have any experience surfing the webs, it's that nobody is what he claims
Also there's no girls on the internet
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>>7527580
>princesschrysalis29

>early transitioner who probably started only a few years before me and looks better than I ever will
>tranniest username name ever conceived
>trans flag
>complete and total SJW (whereas I'm only a softcore SJW)

Maybe... Maybe it's better that I had a few years of hardship before I transitioned...
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>>7521872
>12 year old transtrender
oh man, where is this world heading
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>>7522418
yeah, this is getting out of hand
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>>7527615
>>7527628
>bitter hons can't handle young transitioners
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>>7527650
more like bitter blaire can't handle young transitioners

lol perfect capture btw, he looks like a klingon there
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>>7527655
It looks like a fucking kid's body with a humoungus head
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>>7522775
I heard she's on suicide watch after this video.
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Blaire white got called out for the PUSH UP BRAS and putting EYE SHADOWS on her cleavage

Since then the two videos uploaded has neither of them

Before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cLFZJlmFDE
After
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdVzMVRmnvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnMG8uzi80E
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>>7521872
>honey
HAHAHAHAHAHA BTFO
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>>7521872
>all this hate
The majoriy of you bitter hons look much worse than blaire white. Pathetic.
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>>7527974
I pity Robbie, I really do. What a sad miserable human being who would probably cut off his right feet if it meant getting more attention.
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This entire thread is fucking stupid.
Who gives a shit because some 12 y/o bitched out a 23 y/o.

The mind set here is ridiculous. You could have a 9 y/o transitioner make a video about bitching out the 12 y/o and people here would start calling the 12/y/o a hon.

Do you honestly think Blaire gives a shit about this? She's literally laughing at how retarded you guys are.
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>>7528308
Nice damage control, Blaire.
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>>7528308
>She's literally laughing at how retarded you guys are.
>She

How's your schizophrenia these days Blaire? Wipe off the eyeshadow off your chest honey.
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>>7528319
>>7528359
That response was expected.
4chan continues to prove how retarded its user-base really is
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>>7527974
Wow, I was not expecting the difference to be that obvious. When does she drop the pathetic drawn on lips?
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>>7528391
>That response was expected.
Truth is predictable because it's true.

>4chan continues to prove how retarded its user-base really is
Yeah because of embarrassing hons like you
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>>7525580
I'm originally from /b/, I'm here cuz I don't know if I should transition at 18 or not, I don't know if you guys are serious with the shit ye say or if your all shit posting
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>>7528424
>I don't know if I should transition at 18 or not
You should transition now, you'll only regret waiting.
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>>7527600

>Maybe... Maybe it's better that I had a few years of hardship before I transitioned...

Whatever we have to tell ourselves to sleep better at night.
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>>7528472
>we
Speak for yourself honey.
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Does Blaire really post here?
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>>7528505
"No"
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>>7525576
I think it's because she is close to being the kind of edgy conservative tranny who posts on /lgbt/. Except she somehow manages to take it too far and goes full retard a lot.
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>>7528514
>what is lying

do you believe that? she is so hypercritical of the lgbt community and she doesn't come here in between /pol/ and /x/? yeah right
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>>7528514
she comes here.
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wow, this video is shit and this kid seems like a lazy brat. "i have a macbook but i can't edit for shit so watch me watch youtube for 20 minutes".
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>>7528649
this is just a freaking kid you autistic.
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>>7528649
shut up r-tard
you are just jelly cuz she passes and you don't
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>>7528662
wow, how very ageist of you to say that.

>>7528691
passes as what? a brat who appropriates drag culture even harder than blair white? give me a break.
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>>7528596
Not only that she is commenting on this video with a fake account.

Sad!
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>>7528722
....lame!
Yeah, Blaire spotted.
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>>7528722
>Waiting till a child is old enough to make such a life changing decision is just smart
Translation from retardese: "Waiting till you are an adult who will forever be a hon because you didn't get on hormones soon enough is just smart (for me)"

In other words, Faggie White wants to create even more hons. He wants early transitioners to wait until they are masculinized beyond recognition. What does he know? He has a big fat bank account from sugar daddy so he had his face surgically fixed without realizing most people don't have access to these resources. How is "Blaire" """White""" not an obvious Uncle Tom again?
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>>7528649
Honestly that's still better production than most of what I'm used to seeing anyone that age upload.
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>>7522809
>>7522823
>>7522827
>>7522828
>>7522837
>>7522840
>>7522852
>>7522866
>>7522884
>>7522892
What did he say? What did he say??
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blaire white is a trans traitor, like those white liberal fuckwads who think white people are evil
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>>7522718
Great, now I can't unsee that.
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>>7524778
>>7524693
>>7524344
>>7524325
I'm not blair. Blair doesn't pass either. She looks like a little faggot twink with plastic surgery. Not normal at all. She needs big puffy hair to even create the perception of passing. If she tied her hair up you would see a gay boy with plastic surgery.


Neither blair nor "sophia" pass. Because passing is a meme for 99%
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>>7528907
>I can't wait for Blaire to hit back harder

>No but I can dox her just like that and give the kid hell

>Done it before and made the person kill themselves :)
>t. kiwi admin

>angry hon
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>>7524897
>>7525021
yes I agree they both are just gay boys. They don't have female socialization and never will
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>>7525097
wow look how big her head is compared to her body proportions! It looks like skull autist was right again
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>>7528433
I'm afraid of turning out like a hon
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>>7526417
theres a dutch girl that start at 12 and she still grew like 8 more inches to reach the amazing height of 6'4". Estrogen doesn't stop growth in its tracts, despite having some influence
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>>7522523
>>7522118
it's so hard to take blaire seriously because of how often trannies get jealous of each other, 'specially early transitioners
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>>7529108
So maybe we should be trying to get orchiectomies ASAP?
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>>7529081
Misery loves company
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>>7529102
Well you could give it a couple years and if you turn out to be a hon just go perma femboy mode. That's what I'm doing anyway. Either way you never know, you could totally pass after a year on hrt and regret not having started earlier. I was kinda masc before starting mones, but how much I've changed is seriously ridiculous. I definitely pass as an under 18 femboy now and desu after another year I'm like 99% sure I'll cis pass. Don't let the 4chan memes get to you, hormones can seriously be magic if you're lucky and are willing to put in the effort.
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>>7529173
Ok, ill keep that in mind, desu the early transition meme is really getting to me
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>>7529173
what do you mean by putting in the effort?
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>>7529262
Basically just actively seeking out what features of yours are different than cis girls' and trying to change it. A lot of people (including myself) get caught up in this "ugh my (blank) doesn't look like a cis girls' I'm doomed" mentality instead of working to change that thing. Eyebrows make you look like a guy? Pluck them. Hair doesn't look like how a girl would keep her hair? Learn how to take care of your hair like a girl. My makeup skills suck? Practice practice practice. If you put in the effort to bring everything YOU can personally change into cis female range, you'd be surprised how much it will all synergyze with the changes that come from hrt.
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>>7529313
cheers
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>>7528820
This. Saying wait it out until you are 18 is like saying "go be a hon like me".
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>>7521872
so many bitter hons in the comment section
being nasty to a literal kid
i know some of you homegrown hons are responsible for this
just pathetic
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>>7524191
She moves and talks like my 13 year old cis cousin.

I think that's just how kids are these days. Probably all the gays on jewtube.
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>>7529108
Aren't the dutch genetically the tallest people on earth for men and women?

Which had more weight on her eventual height?
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>>7521872

>It's a medical fact that some children with dysphoria will conform with their natural sex when older

>It's widely recognised that children are incapable of taking major responsibilities to the point of that being part of law.

A greater consensus among psychiatrist over the need of pharmaceutical intervention in children with gender dysphoria is crucial before any attempt to overrule the parents decision of treating or not their child.

Blair understand that one major obstacle to transgender people being accepted is the fear that people have about losing control over the decision of letting or stopping their child's from transition. Obviously there are advantages for those who transition early, but it is politically wise to avoid pushing for transgender children rights before more medical data is available and transgenderism as a whole is more integrated into society.
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>>7532789
I think Latvian women are the tallest at 5'8" or something like that
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Blair White looks like Michael Jackson.
I find her alt-right pandering as annoying as that fucking fake-faggot Milo...
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>>7532946
If you just want to argue against your strawman, go back to /pol/.
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I see the hons here are still upset.
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>>7533045
Milo > BW
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>>7525906
But why is it bad to be against child transitioning? I mean they're LITERAL children. They can't drive, drink, vote, etc. and yet we think we it's okay for them to alter their bodies which will affect them for the rest of their lives?

Even the child in the video showed immense amount of immaturity to even try to understand Blair's point. Instead she just went straight to insulting Blair's appearance.
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>>7521872
how's that btfo, ti's a catty gay boy just insulting her; honestly he's proving her point
>HONEY
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The younger transgender girl will have problems if she ever gets a neo vag because her penis didn't develop properely (fully), which will cause future complications for her. Blair if you're scared of complications think about it a little more before it drags you under.
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>>7535160
I'd happily trade better SRS results for better HRT results.
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>>7538435
I'd trade srs for a uterus transplant and better hrt results for a sane stable outlook on life.
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>>7535160
She would have a more sensitive clitoris though since they don't need to remove as much
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>>7534088
Both are cucks.

>>7535027
Yet you're perfectly okay with forcing kids to go through "natural" puberty, which is no less drastic or damaging than HRT. Most "child transitioning" means crossdressing, followed by going on blockers around 12 or so, and blockers are REVERSIBLE. Which natural puberty is not. If blockers are child abuse, then forcing children to go through natural puberty is far worse.
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>>7535027
You wouldn't be saying this is the child was severely depressed and a psychiatrist wanted to put him on SSRIs.
>He's too young to decide if he should get on anti-depressants! It's going to fuck with his brain chemistry!
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>>7525906
>certain people happening to agree with your opinions after you voiced them means you voiced them specifically to cater to those people
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Hi all, real woman here. Blaire acts like a gay man and Sophie acts like a gay boy. Neither of them pass. Also this is hilarious AF. Carry on.
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>>7521872
her nails are cute, but her mannerisms and slang are that from a black gay guys
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how old is sophie?
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>>7528907
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>>7545776
>real woman here

All cis girls are SJWs now, they wouldn't use terminology like this
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>>7522839
Really makes ya thnk...
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>>7545822
Sry, you're right. Real wymyn here. Trannies are disgusting and need to go. I support the sterilization of trannie children.
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>>7545832
Transkids sterilize themselves you retard
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>>7545850
No family, doctors and parents sterilize trannie children. Children cannot do anything themselves, that's why they're children.
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