Why do trans women often take a receptive role with men but penetrative

>>7516162
They fail both as a man and a woman. I'm not even female but I'd never let one penetrate me.

>>7516162
[citation needed]

>>7516162
>receptive role with men
that's what women usuall do
>penetrative with women
that's agp

Because you watch too much porn

>>7516162
Because fucking a man in the ass, even if you're a woman wearing a strap-on, is literally the gayest thing on Earth.

>>7516162
Because men want to put things in me, and women want me to put things in them. I don't *like* to use my shenis on girls(or guys), it really makes me feel like less of a woman. But on the other hand, I get off on getting my partner off, so I'll oblige. It's weird but there you go.

that's really just a porn thing
for me, and I assume most transwomen, the idea of 'topping' or putting my dick somebody's hole is pretty horrifying

>>7516700
this. Stop reading /gif/, OP.

>>7516402
>he has never been on r/transgender
if only it was porn

I have intense sexual fantasies about manly guys fucking my brains out but in reality anal sex hurts and I loose all arousal. But I don't want wen to touch my dick. Therefore I now date lesbians and would also use my penis to penetrate them if they would want it.

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>>7516162
Because you base your worldviews on porn.

>>7516691
>It's weird but there you go.

So is being born with a dick and calling yourself a woman.

>>7516162
Biology.

I thought you stopped shitposting about Natalie Mars again, Emy Amethyst. I guess you are back at it again trying to get famous off of your ex girlfriend.

>>7517833
i declare you - winner

im a trans lesbian, and i usually foreplay and finger the girl and sometimes she tribades on me, then i usually wait until the girl is asleep to cum by myself.

idk how autistic that is.

I penetrate guys and girls. I have a big dick and I don't like taking it in the ass. No fucks given.

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>>7519862
>im a trans lesbian
>i usually wait until the girl is asleep to cum by myself
>idk how autistic that is

because they are agp roleplaying a woman. Girl in op pic is classic agp

>>7517740
"Lesbians "

>>7517833
Yeah, kinda weird.

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>>7516691
>shenis

>>7516162
because that's how sex works, faggot

>>7519944
then you're not really trans

>>7520219
Sure I am. I just don't have dysphoria over my dick. Might as well use it if you got it. Almost any cis woman will tell you they'd like to have a dick.

>>7520257
Unless you have a proper reason like lack of finances or you live in the third world then not doing SRS means you're not trans.
There's no such thing as "no dysphoria over dick"
Dick is literally the most masculine thing about any man, if you're not by all means trying to get rid of it you're an AGP crossdresser

>>7520257
>I just don't have dysphoria over my dick.

I'm not usually one to meme, but this is honestly really sketch bro

>>7520268
>if you're not by all means trying to get rid of it you're an AGP crossdresser

Or something different. It's possible to enjoy being a girl with a dick. Or an improvement on the male blueprint. Whichever you prefer.

>>7520268
I feel sorry for people like that desu. I'd like a vagina, but that isn't possible with the current technology. The closest you can get is a poor imitation. I'd rather have a decent dick than a terrible feaux vagina.

>>7520281
>using the axe wound meme that you can only really find on 4chan to justify your AGP

Lol. Just admit you're not really a girl bro

>>7520278
It is not possible to enjoy being a "girl with a dick" because of dysphoria, the thing that makes people trans.
So you're just a fetishist and will probably regret transitioning when you're 30. Good Luck.
>>7520281
I'd rather have nothing there than a dick, dick is the most masculine thing, anything other than dick is already better, even if its a butchered vag.

>>7520287
>>7520288
>being this mad that you take it in the ass and I don't

>>7520288
>because of dysphoria
Dysphoria is largely a meme. Bodily discontent is a thing, though.

>>7520325
>this is what AGPs believe
If Dysphoria is such a meme, why would anyone ever spend fucktons of money and time to transition?

>>7520327
Not saying the feelings aren't legit. I'm just saying I question the diagnosis and the nature of the condition. I know for me the ideal self has always been something I've clung to whilst in the midst of suicidal depression to prevent me from just physically dying from sadness.

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>>7520298
>being this mad at being called out for your AGP

Why do agp's get so defensive when we call out their bullshit?

>>7520298
>you actually think i take it in the ass instead of the front hole

Cry more.

>>7516205

How does one "fail" at being a gender? You just are or you aren't.

>>7516162
stop posting hons

>>7519944
My nigga

>tfw no 6'3 big bearpucci to pound with my large fat girlcock

>>7516700
Why is it horrifying if some natal women (me, for example) like to fuck guys up the ass? Maybe not a very feminine thing to do but it exists.

>>7522833
This to be honest.

>>7520257
>Almost any cis woman will tell you they'd like to have a dick.
True for me, idk about "almost any" part though.

>>7522833
what are you? a cis bi female??

idk why so many cis girls like to use strap ons or wish they could have a dick now and again

i just know that for me actually having one is pretty disgusting and I could never imagine using it for sex

>>7522833
That sounds fine, I would probably be into that if I had been born cis like you. But being trans honestly kinda traumatized me and now I'm averse to anything like that, and I definitely wouldn't use the penis I have now. Maybe a long time from now after SRS, I'll be up for using a strap-on.

>>7522833
It's okay as long as you are a real girl.
t. cognitive dissonance pro

>>7520287
Remember when axe wound referred to a cis girl's vag? Pepridge Farm remembers.

>>7522916
>born with a functional penis
>gets SRS
>uses a strap-on instead

Your logic is all kinds of fucked up, goddamn, and this coming from someone who is trans.

>>7522897
>a cis bi female??
This.
In some ways a strap-on is better than a real dick, it's always ready for some action and you can choose a size you (or your partner) want. But sometimes I wish I'd be able to cum inside my partner or to mark his/her face with my cum...

>>7522952
How is that fucked up? It's not normal for a girl to have a dick, but it's kinda normal for a girl to use a strap-on. And honestly I probably wouldn't be the one using the strap-on either, I actually kinda feel icky now thinking about it.

>>7522989
>But sometimes I wish I'd be able to cum inside my partner or to mark his/her face with my cum...
Hah, it's funny you say that because transwomen on hormones can't really do that either, orgasms are dry, and although some girls have precum or get wet when aroused there is no "ejaculation"

>>7523291
Then it means I'd like to be a real man. My dad is built like a fridge, I have wide shoulders too and I'm by no means short or weak, but I'm still a woman. I don't want to transition but if only people were able to switch between genders...

Because women like dick, and we have them, so we're sometimes willing to compromise and let them make use of them.

>>7523338
Or should I say "between sexes"? I mean changing your body on your own volition without undergoing surgery, maybe becoming an ethereal entity and reforming as a person of another sex. Sounds like a pipe dream...

>>7520287
>Just admit you're not really a girl bro

This is true of all trannies, you're just in denial about it. Neither androphilic no gynephilic transwomen are female and even Blanchard says as much.

>>7520327
Dysphoria isn't just about your dick fampai.

The DSM defines dysphoria as:

1. a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or, in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)

2. a strong desire to be rid of one’s primary and/or secondary sex characteristics because of a marked incongruence with one’s experienced/expressed gender (or, in young adolescents, a desire to prevent the development of the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)

3. a strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex characteristics of the other gender

4. a strong desire to be of the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)

5. a strong desire to be treated as the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)

It can be any of the above. Being trans isn't as straight forward as "I want to be a cis person of the other gender". Some people actually want to be trans.

>>7523428
> Being trans isn't as straight forward as "I want to be a cis person of the other gender". Some people actually want to be trans
It's exactly that, being a transsexual/transgender means wanting to change your sex/gender, and since there are only two, you can only either be male or female
>Some people want to be trans
Yeah, but those people aren't trans. They're gender blender tumblr posers, AGP fetishists attention seekers and so on.
You're trans when you transition. you're a transgender woman if you're mtf, a transgender male if you're ftm, and if you're in the middle, you should kill yourself

>tfw a legitimate attractive woman with a giant dick is my supreme ultra fetish
>tfw futas will never exist so i have to watch men wearing dresses jacking off on chaturbate

someone kill me in japanese please

>>7526351
Do you at least look at high tier trannies? Some of them look close enough to futas.

>>7526429
like who? i need examples anon

>>7526438
Most people would just tell you Bailey Jay, she's the most popular.

Here's one who I think is really hot, but she's too small to be a futa sadly.

https://www.ashemaletube.com/model/chloe-salpa-4194/

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>>7516162
That's a porn meme. Most trans women enjoy being sexually receptive because penetrating more often than not triggers dysphoric feelings.

I find it fascinating how many people not only formulate their opinions on trans people purely through porn and cinema stereotypes, but will argue them with actual trans people as if it's real research.

>>7516220
What the fuck is AGP about fucking a girl you retard?

>>7528557
Fucking a girl with your penis is AGP, at least use a strap-on or eat her out if you want even a modicum of legitimacy.

>>7528560
>Fucking a girl with your penis is AGP
What the fuck is AGP about fucking a girl you retard?

>>7526286
You can't change your sex. Regardless of what you think of yourself or the motivation for transition, you and every other trans person will always be the sex you were born as.

Sorry if that triggers you, but some people choose to embrace that and want to be males with feminine features.

No amount of calling other people AGP or whatever will change the fact that you are fundamentally and will always be a man.

>>7529192
nah fag, aside from superficial bullshit like chromosomes, for all intents and purposes i'm a woman, i have a vagina, a passable body, face, voice and genitalia, i have a birth certificate and my legal identity is female too, nobody knows me as male, and nobody knows i'm trans or have ever transitioned. I'm a true transsexual, i got as close to changing my sex as currently possible, with current technology available, being trans is having dysphoria and transitioning as much as you can to rid yourself of it.
Now, you're an AGP crossdresser, you're a man and you like being a man hence why you don't cut off your dick, thus you are not trans, because otherwise, you'd transition to the best of your ability to treat the mental condition known as Gender Dysphoria, but you don't have that, so you aren't trans.
I have nothing against people like you, they're a bit pathetic because changing yourself because of a fetish is kinda down the slippery slope of things you could do, but what i don't like is you fags calling yourselves trans. No, just because you take hormones does not make you trans, you're still just a dude crossdresser and that's fine, but you're not trans and thus have no idea on the issue

>>7516162
Culture mostly although I find Latin a and Brazilian trans women to not really follow this as much for the most part they don't like girls or at least only fuck gen with men present.

You can find a larger number of vetsitile girls. Most passive or bottom girls do not like women at all.

Most Latin and Brazilian trans women like having their penis sucked if they are attracted to the guy.

This is sort of new though for a long time even girls who liked to top thought of it as wrong and only bottomed with their partners.

>>7530163
this

>>7516162

Because by doing so you get the best of both sides.

>>7530163
>fag
Why are trannies so homophobic?

>superficial bullshit like chromosomes
For the vast majority of the population, those 'superficial' chromosomes decide which direction your body develops physically. You can't go all bawww muh sjws on me and then use the sjw logic. If you have XX you are female, otherwise you are MALE. You, me and 99% of the Y chromosome carriers on the planet.

>for all intents and purposes i'm a woman
Socially speaking yes, but a woman is more than a list of outward physical features and social behaviors. Nobody cares how passable you are. There are real women who are ugly and have trouble 'passing' as women. You're setting up a hierarchy in order to place yourself above others because you need to do that in order to quell your insecurities.

>i have a vagina
You have a surgically inverted penis. A vagina is sexual organ, or something with the potential to be a functioning sexual organ. Intersex women have this. Transgenders do not.

>i have a birth certificate and my legal identity is female too
So you were granted the privilege to roleplay a woman by the government.

>being trans is having dysphoria and transitioning as much as you can
I've already given you the DSM's definition of dysphoria. If you refuse to accept that and substitute your own definition there's really no point debating that further.

>Now, you're an AGP crossdresser, you're a man and you like being a man
You're making a lot of assumptions about me there. I am a gay male with dysphoria. I don't necessarily like being a man, but I also know that trying to be a woman is an exercise in futility.

>you're still just a dude crossdresser
And at the end of the day you're really nothing more than a crossdresser with artificially induced breasts, an inverted penis and the legal privilege to call yourself a 'woman'.

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>>7530163
>tfw you don't have enough material to make a pussy.

What else is one supposed to do with a vagina? You can't suck it like a dick. You can't put it up your ass. And who wants pussy in their face? At least if you fuck it you don't have to look at it or smell it.

>>7531663
Chromosomes are superficial
Do you get called XY at your local supermarket? Do strangers ask what chromosomes you have? The answer is No unless you live in reverse-world.
For 99% of people, excluding your family, partner, friends and such your chromosomes don't matter, since if you're passing by on the street people are just gonna assume you're female, and that's how the world works, you're only what people see, and people don't see your chromosomes.
>You're setting up a hierarchy
wut? I'm not saying unpassable women suck or something, i'm just saying as a transsexual, unless you simply don't have the means, if you have legitimate dysphoria you will get as close to it as possible, if you don't have dysphoria of course you don't care, about passing and/or dick, but then you're not trans.
You can't be trans without dysphoria, it's SJW bullshit, no matter how you look at it, whether being trans is a mental disorder or a physical development disorder and dysphoria is a natural response to that, it's a disorder, if you don't have it, you're not trans.

>sexual organ
but what about tons of people who are infertile? Lol, i have as much of a vagina as those people. I can have sex and can't reproduce, just like them. And regardless, if i couldn't do SRS, i'd rather have nothing there than a dick, because i'm a transsexual and it still puts me closer to being a woman, just by not having the dick. My vagina turned out pretty well but i don't care if it turned out bad, it would still be better than nothing.

>your own definitions
as opposed to SJW bullshit? there are a million definitions of dysphoria by medical institutions in the world, and those same people who write them now want to de-legitimize it's disorder status to make it normal, that's bullshit. Every transsexual on the planet pretty much agrees it's a disorder and only treatment is to transition to being a woman.

>>7531697
>And who wants pussy in their face?

Well who wants dick in their mouth? It's about pleasuring your partner.

>>7531715
I think there can be other reasons for not getting SRS, considering it is currently not as good as it could be, if you're young and can manage your dysphoria there's no shame in waiting until better technology arrives.

>>7531663
>why are trannies so homophobic
Because we're not associated with your LGB safe space nor we want to be, as soon as i transitioned i made sure no one would ever know i'm trans other than the people that deserved to know such as my partner, i have nothing against gays, but i don't like them either, same goes for fetishists, bisexuals and lesbians


>i'm a gay male with dysphoria
I have nothing against that, but you're not trans. When i started i had zero chances, but i did it anyway, because that's what actual dysphoria makes you do, ironically, hons have it right, for a transsexual, it's either transition as best as possible or death, there's no "i'll just be a man with feminine features", that's not dysphoria and no transsexual in their mind would ever consider that being an option, again, only fetishists using trans as a buffer for their insecurities about being gay/bi are okay with that, and they're not trans.

>at the end of the day
At the end of the day, i'm a transsexual woman, i have transitioned and came as close to the goal as possible, for all intens and purposes, i'm a woman, nobody knows i'm transsexual other than my partner, i'm passable, but i'm also complete, going the extra step of SRS makes me truly a transsexual who did everything she could, instead of a in-between gay guy fetishist, which there's nothing wrong with, but you're not trans and you shouldn't speak on those topics. You're an agp crossdresser fetishist, so just accept it, i don't like your kind but have nothing against you, but mostly, stop calling yourself trans. You're not. I'm Trans. You're not. People who do SRS are trans. People who don't (but can) are not.

I'm a trans woman and I take a receptive role with men and women. I'm bi and like to be submissive and receptive to more dominant, take-charge people. I'm currently dating a cis woman and even when she asks me to be more dominant with her, the only penetrating that happens is with a vibrator or some fingers. Using my penis for anything except peeing is like the grossest thing I can think of.

>>7531734
I thought this when I was in my teens, but now I'm 22 and I really need it. Technology isn't gonna advance significantly for the next decade at least.

>>7531736
>>7531715

I'm sorry that the fact that you're a male upsets you so much. I hope that you come to accept it someday and leave some of this anger behind.

>>7530163
>>7531715
>the core of every cell in my body is superficial
>but my literal surface is not
>do people go by your real nature at the local supermarket? no, they go by your surgically-altered superficial traits, that's why I'm right about this

Even on this board, you're a real high watermark of mental illness.

>>7531747
I guess having a micropenis makes me more patient and better at managing than most. I never have to look down, I only think about it if something hurts.

>>7531754
But yes, people in the supermarket go by your surgically altered surface traits, everyone you ever see on the streets is just a surface of their traits, and traits such as chromosomes, you can't even see, what people see is what you look like and only that, and what people hear is what you sound like and only that, they don't see your chromosomes are you literally retarded.
>core of my body
yes it is superficial, because nobody ever has to know, and nobody ever will know, hell, i have never checked my own chromosomes, maybe i'm XXY or some other bullshit, with a development disorder, or what if my parents hide from me that i'm intersex?
i don't care, surface is the only thing that matters, it's what i see, it's what people see, and people only know what they see. You have probably once been in a supermarket with a passable tranny and you have never known, and you never will.
Not understanding this is literal retardation.
>>7531751
I'm not angry senpai, and neither am i male
but you are, and i hope you stop hiding behind the trans umbrella and participating in trans threads and accept that you're a mentally ill, fetishistic gay man, and i'm not.

>>7531754
Not that anon, but reality is dictated by perception. If everyone around you sees you as a girl, and you see yourself as a girl, you are a girl. Obviously you can turn around and say "what about impostors? what about cases of fraud?" but those people know they are frauds, even if nobody else does. I know that I'm a girl, and everyone else does too.

>>7531795
developmental disorder here, you would know if you had one, trust me.
Also, you're a woman but you're still male, you have a prostate, please don't say female when you go to the doctor, the doctors might miss something if you get sick.

>>7531817
If needed for health concerns, i'd state my status as a transsexual so that there would be a specialist who would know i have combination of both male and female organs and disorders might work differently on me
However, that's about it, there's nothing male about that, it's as simple as stating your past medical history, if a woman had her uterus removed, she's still a woman, but her body is different from the average woman.

Trans woman here who enjoys both receptive and penetrative role with both men and women. What does that make me? Am I ultra harmonic maximum fetishist?

And actually the guy I would be most comfortable penetrating with my 5 inch girldick would be a tall late 20s muscle bear with a friendly face who treats me like his cute little angel on dates.

>>7531817
Actually it's far more dangerous for you to state your gender as male if you're on estrogen. The vast majority of important applications for gender markings, in emergencies, are in drug interactions and dosings, which are hormone dependent.

>>7517794