>mfw trannies will ALWAYS have a man's skeleton

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>>7456025
th-th-that's a lie..... you're lying to me....

>>7456031
is this a tranny

>>7456043
yes and the person on the left is a 5'11'' cis male

>>7456057
disgusting

>you will never have a male skeleton

why was I put on this earth only to suffer

>>7456057
pretty sure he's ftm

>>7456031
I'm "straight" and I'd totally get busy with her. She's androgynous enough that she doesn't come off as a dude.

>>7456057
True, but note that she's closer to the camera. Who is the man next to her?

>>7456380
he finished his transition. hence cis

>>7457028
It doens't work like that. He still doesn't have a ballsack and testicles and shit. He doesn't have a real penis. You never "finish" your transition. Trannies are perpetually stuck in gender purgatory which is why they have such a high suicide rate.

>>7456210
Hey look on the bright side, some kids wind up getting leukemia and shit. Your situation isn't that bad comparatively speaking so just live your life and be grateful for it.

>>7457058
umm, yes it does

>>7457028
>>7457108
Redditor spotted

>>7456025
Its against nature to transition

Work with want nature gave you

>>7457536
but they are still working with what nature gave them by transitioning?

>>7457555
Its unnatural

You're shitting on what nature gave you

>>7457536
>>7457569
Is it the hormones and surgery that you are claiming to be unnatural, or just the attempt to transition at all? I mean, you are on a board that the rest of 4chan would claim is entirely unnatural as it is.

If it's the medical portion that you are claiming to be unnatural, then friend, I've got some bad news for you. If it's the concept as a whole...what are you even doing on this board.

>>7457528
That means you're a disgusting and dishonest man monster.

Femboys are the only ones doing something right cause they don't call themselves girls or do your cringey pretend routine, hon.

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>>7456210
Your envy of my form pleases me

Glad that's not my life. Trannies aren't trannies because they are "women trapped in men's bodies;" it's because they're bat shit crazy. Though I'd still slam an FTM in the cunt.

>>7458732
Reminder that you're not allowed in this site after your little child porn shitick. I'd get out before you get banned, again. Otherwise get ready for it to be a global.

>>7458726
I would love for you to quote exactly where in that response you got the assumption I was mtf. Also, please explain how that assumption would in any way further your argument, considering the reputation for femboys to take the very same hormones as mtfs and end up being just as much freaks as they are, or as any trans person in general is

>>7458732
>cunt
mancave* tbqh

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>>7458726
Repressors its are the only redpilled people in lgbt

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>>7458755
If you aren't then that means you're probably the ban dodger everyone is talking about.

The pedophile who is using the mods being away for Christmas to sneak in.

I think we've seen enough then. Sage and report >>7456025 >>7457528 >>7458755 everyone.

He's already confirmed he's got a lifetime ban from 4chan, so let's get him out quick.

Good bye criminal, doubt I'll see you any time soon.

>>7457528
Jesus no wonder alk traps ate so fucking dead inside

>>7456025
This isn't really true. I mean for a lot of them, sure, but if you start early enough, your skeleton develops like a cis girl's.

>>7458776
>I don't have anything to back up my argument: The Post

Nice one hon

>>7458862
>Pedo damage controll
you admitted it, and shitposting after previous ban won't end well.

I'd drop the high and mighty act you kid eater and start clearing your tracks.

>>7458862
>Dodging a lifetime ban for child porn
Good bye animal

>>7458879
Please show me where I admitted anything

>>7458892
samefag

>>7458893
Hash proving you have the same file as the pedophile is smoking gun enough. Keep coming up with desperate excuses, don't do shit if you can't take the ban.

>>7458903
>Doesn't post a single shred of evidence for his accusations

I can post all day because I have nothing to worry about. I didn't do anything that you are saying I did, and mods would easily be able to tell this. You have nothing to validate this claim, and I'm sure the mods will agree with me

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>>7458879
>>7458892
>>7458903
So to sum this all up, you called me a "dishonest man monster", and then when you had no proof of that accusation, you decided to label me as the ban-evading pedophile, and now you can't even sum up evidence to substantiate that either. Furthermore, you didn't even have an argument to begin with, just an insult, followed by more accusations and insults. This says something about you, anon.

>>7458916
Hashes don't lie, they'll see you right away, you won't be so happy once you're reduced to using pedochan as your site.

>>7458949
Didn't even call you the monster btw, but it fits pedos like you. Good bye.

>>7458995
I mean, since you're lying out your ass, I'll be here all day. 4chan uses hashes on images, not users. All it took was a quick google search for me to know this. Any mod will see clearly I'm not this ban-evader, I've posted enough on this board and /v/ to know I'm not the same person.

You can take your bullshit lies and shove them right up your ass, because I'm going nowhere, prick.

>>7459102
Your op image and stuff means you've got the same files as a banned guy
. Practically caught red handed.

You'll linger here till they come back, then you'll regret having drawn attention to yourself with shitposting

>>7459132
My OP image, you say? Considering I never was OP, I'd fucking LOVE to see what a mod has to say

>>7459141
Fantastic then, you're just joining with a confirmed cp spammer, to shitpost and help them spread illegal shit on the board.

You're ready to earn your first global, baby pedo.

>>7459155
Considering I have said and done nothing to aid or help this ban-evader, I highly doubt I'll get banned. I have done absolutely nothing wrong, anybody can see that. I never wanted to get this heated, but being accused of being a fucking PEDOPHILE is god damned offensive, and I reserve my right to defend myself against this shit. Considering I have no way of knowing who this ban-evader is, how could I ever be rightly accused of aiding him?

Yes, I did shitpost. My shitpost was entirely valid however, and contained my actual thoughts on myself and other trans people, even if there was a little snarky sarcasm thrown in there. I never intended to be associated with a ban-evading pedophile, and I am willing to argue my case against not only the mods but the law if I have to.

>>7459190
Shove it, you're offended over the truth after shitposting. It's ridiculous, you shitpost to cause chaos all over the site and help him escape, then you're an accomplice.

Didn't you say you weren't trans. That proves your excuse is nothing but a pathetic attempt to escape punishment for helping illegal shit spread over 4chan.

Good bye and learn from this mistake when they finally let you back in.

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>>7459256
>Didn't you say you weren't trans.

No, I said pic related, and I was referring to the fact that I never once in my post used specific pronouns, I included both mtfs and ftms, amd nowhere in my post did I ever indicate I was either mtf or ftm. I'd gladly invite you to prove that wrong, but you can't

>It's ridiculous, you shitpost to cause chaos all over the site and help him escape, then you're an accomplice.

Find one shred of proof that I did any other shitposting in the past month, asshole. I was gonna try to be a bit more civil with you but its obvious you're a stuck-up cunt who keeps making assumptions and accusations without evidence, and since you are wrong, and the mods can see exactly what I've done, I have no reason to be afraid of you or your stupid fucking insults.

b-but muh cyborg body

>>7459278
You join along with someone dodging a ban and help them push their stuff and you should rightfully join along with their punishment.

You took advantage of their absence to help wreck the place and so you deserve to lose your use of this place. And at any rate they hate accomplishes so you won't evade your punishment .

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>>7456025
>mfw no one knows about corset training on this board

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>>7456951
She's a political transbian so don't even bother.

>>7459291
> help them push their stuff
How did I do this

>you won't evade your punishment
That's right, I won't, because I won't have to. If for some reason they do, as I said, I will argue my case with them, because I'm not a fucking scumbag.

Go on, keep telling me what I did like you have any idea. The mods will have a better idea of the situation and will evaluate it accordingly. I trust that they actually cite evidence and can make fair, unbiased judgments based on such, unlike you. No wonder you aren't a mod, you'd likely permaban the whole cite without a second thought.

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>>7459300
I thought you said he became a femboi

>>7459317
wow, I can't even spell, I meant to say:

You'd likely permaban the whole site without a second thought

>>7458755
What's wrong with femboys taking stuff to stay pretty. They're honest, admit they're boys right from the start, they aren't lying, and they aren't the least bit creepy like you.

>>7459363
>>7458755

Tbh >>7457528 reads like a perfect argument for why a femboi could do every thing they want to look girly right down to Srs and still be justified in calling themselves girly boys

>>7459624
That's kinda like saying you're a cat that wants to look like a dog right down to medical procedures that make you indistinguishable from a dog but you still want to be called a cat

>>7460175
Didn't we go over about how you're always really a boy physically. So claiming otherwise is actually irrational and not realistic. Claiming to be a femboy is super realistic and honest.

Besides, if you 'feel' like a boy and feel comfortable as acting like one, then why would having a feminine body change that.

>>7460175
I mean it's more like saying that girls are pretty and you want to be pretty but that doesn't make you a girl or mean you think like them

>>7457068
it was partially a joke, I don't mind it too much

>>7458729
IT'S NOT FAIR!

>>7460259
>>7460271
Valid points. I do want to make it clear that I don't think femboys shouldn't do what they want to do with their bodies, that would be pretty hypocritical of me. I am stating, though, that it makes less sense to me, My original argument also was never meant to dissuade transitioners, but to be realistic about what's going on.

To address >>7460259, I don't understand how identifying as male would lead you to take hormones, especially if you are secure in your identity. I guess to be cute? But the risks seem a bit too high just to look "cute". Just my thoughts, of course.

And to address >>7460271, why would you want to be "pretty" in a feminine way? My initial guess is to attract straight guys, but that gets blown out the window by the whole "identify as male" thing. Maybe to attract more masculine gay guys?

Please now, don't misunderstand me. I do firmly believe that an ftm will never actually be male and that an mtf will never actually be female. I just don't understand how somebody without dysphoria would feel the need to alter themselves like that, considering the risks and cost.

>>7460333
I have dysphoria, very severe dysphoria. But I behave like a normal person, don't pretend to be something I'm not, and don't impose my own mental fuck ups on other people. The only time I plan on ever going full time is once I've saved enough for SRS and that's just to be able to have access to it, after that I'm going back to being upfront about what I am.

>>7460333
Because there sort of is some kind of BDD that resembles dysphoria. And having a feminine body fixes that.

So while having some sort of intersexed body causes all of you anguish, it's perfect for us.

I'd argue what we do is incredibly rational and maybe you'd be better off if you adopted the same mindset rather than calling yourself a girl when you're not one.

>>7460389
Oh, I apologize, I didn't get that impression initially. When you put it that way, I see what you mean, though I never took it to that extent with myself, personally.

In my view, a person is allowed to do as they wish and be treated how they wish, assuming they deserve that level of respect from others.

Sure, a trans girl will never be the same as a cis girl, same with a trans guy and a cis guy, and its fucking depressing to think about. But (and I made this point in my original statement), that doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated as they wish to be treated, assuming they deserve that level of respect from others.

Thinking about your situation, I feel both incredibly sad for and incredibly envious of you. Your situation seems outright terrible, but your strength is admirable.

>>7460435
You made a valid point up until that last bit there
>rather than calling yourself a girl when you're not one

My point is that it doesn't matter what you call yourself. It does matter to acknowledge what you are though, to acknowledge that a trans person isn't the sex that they wish they are, they are merely an imitation. But, even a very good imitation can deserve the same respect as the real thing sometimes, though with ample consideration given to their inherent differences

>>7460389
>femboys now pretending to be mtf so they can get their dicks cut

>>7460469
You pointed out you're a man point by point in every sense of the word. There's no point in encouraging some cringe worthy logic to ignore that then.

It's insanity to do such. Bad to start that path. It's unethical and a violation on others to claim you're anything else.

>>7460469
>My point is that it doesn't matter what you call yourself
It does, the gender criticals were right, if you're a man, you can't call yourself a woman or pretend to be one.

You're hikejacking, forcing your steryotypes and caricatures on everyone when you're still a man.

>>7457528
the realest shit.
even if i could alter my biology however I wanted I'd still be dissatisfied by male socialization

>>7460492
That's the thing, I don't claim to be cis. I'm upfront about my trans-ness to those I think need to know, that that's just about anybody who gets even remotely close to me.

Telling them "I'm a man" is true on a fundamental and genetic level, but aesthetically I'm anything but, at least to the view of a common stranger.

Of course, telling them "I'm a girl" is also a straight-up lie, because no, I don't have working ovaries and I cannot produce children, nor do I get periods.

>>7460506
In what way am I forcing anything on anyone? Call yourself whatever you want, I'll call myself trans. People will know immediately from that description that I was born the opposite sex, and unless they are improperly informed of the implications of that, they will treat me however they feel they should based on that description.

I'm not saying they can't call me a man or a woman. There is also nothing dictating that they have to treat me as the sex I wish I was. I, of course, would do the courteous thing and oblige that for others who wish that sort of treatment, because it seems like a respectful thing to do, but you are in no way forced to do that, not by me at least.

>>7460537
>Telling them "I'm a man" is true on a fundamental and genetic level
Just do that then. Otherwise you're practically engaging in blackface and pushing caricature level gender steryotypes/roles on everyone.

That makes things harder for people who don't conform.

>>7460537
Also, I assume you go to women's spaces all the time as if that's nothing. You're a man so doing such is literally violating others.

Don't push rigid gender roles with your caricature act, don't call yourself a woman when your a man, that implies your caricature can some how trump that, and don't violate women's spaces or do other things that will harass them by forcing yourself, a man around others who have reason to never want you there.

>>7460563
But that would hurt me in the dysphoria and, unlike you, I'm not that strong. I'm trying to be reasonable within my own limits, to be fair without hurting myself.

I know I'm not doing a fantastic job either, but I'd literally rather pull out a pistol and paint the wall with my own brainmatter right in front of someone then to utter the words "I'm a man".

I feel that being open about the fact that I am trans would be a good middle ground to settle on, enough that I'm not lying to anybody about what I am, while still being at least not entirely revolted to the core at the thought because of my struggle with a mental disconnect with the sex I was born as.

I'm not saying that I'm a woman. I'm also not saying that I'm a man. When I say I'm trans, one can infer based on my appearance what sex I was born as and what sex I would rather be, and that should be enough. In a sense, it is saying it, but in a way that hurts me less. If that's how I need to justify it to live with myself, then that's what I'll do

>>7460594
>I assume you go to women's spaces all the time as if that's nothing
I don't. I use gender neutral bathrooms, and I don't put myself in a position where I would need to use any other gender assigned space, specifically for that reason.

I feel uncomfortable using the men's room, yes. But I could assume that a woman would feel that same level of discomfort (if not even more) having me in the women's room, knowing I'm trans.

I do actually have some empathy, believe it or not

>Don't push rigid gender roles with your caricature act, don't call yourself a woman when your a man

Are you ignoring everything I previously said, or did you just skim through and miss the part where I said I don't call myself a woman?

>>7460615
If you say that "gender roles" or some other crap makes you stop being a man it causes collateral damage, not just by pushing a steryotype on women but by saying that feminine males aren't real men. It's really a bunch of grade school ideas, nauseates me.

Why would you even socially transition if you don't pass? That's only going to make others uncomfortable.

>>7460629
I'm starting to think you don't understand a word I'm saying

>>7460615
>rather pull out a pistol and paint the wall with my own brainmatter right in front of someone then to utter the words "I'm a man".
You already said this btw, so getting hung up over a line you crossed is pointless.

>>7460639
I guess it was pointless trying to convey my feelings in such a manner if you think its redundant anyway

>>7460635
I do and that's why this is nonsensical to me, >>7460639 you've already said you're a man, why not just go with that rather than some amazingly convoluted logic and steryotypes to claim otherwise.

What you pull hurts others and only leads you further astray.

>>7460646
I've just said that GC ideology was right, you admitted how they're right and it's unethical for a man like yourself to be pushing the crap you do. Only right thing is to call a spade.

>>7460649
Further astray from what?

>>7460655
Gender is fake, your grasping it as a salvation doesn't make you less of a man, it just drags you into black face type caricaturish crap and hurts gender nonconforming men and women.

You've admitted it, you can sanely call yourself anything other than a man and still you push these destructive shams.

>>7460654
I told you how I feel, why I feel that way, how it relates to my dysphoria, and how I deal with its relation to my dysphoria. I'm not gonna change that.

>>7460658
I'm not pushing any of this onto anybody. All I am telling people is that I am trans, and how I feel about myself. I don't try to make everybody else do as I do, I'm not forcing anybody into anything. All I did was state my lack of understanding about a femboy's motivations, I never claimed that they shouldn't do as they wish.

I have a few gender nonconforming friends. One claims to be genderfluid, one claims to be agender, and another claims to be non-binary. Though I may not understand them fully, never once do I tell them this, nor do I tell them what they can do with themselves. It is your body. Whether you are male or female, or you believe to be something else, you do as you wish.

>>7460649
>>7460658
To sum up everything:

I get what you are saying. I should let go of the delusion that I could ever be female, and embrace my birth sex. However, my dysphoria prevents this, and I am not going to do so for that reason. I am treading a line between delusion and reality, and I am doing my best to tread that line in a way that both allows me to see and understand reality, and stay just enough within that I don't kill myself. I'm not going to veer from this path, and if that was the conclusion your argument was trying to lead to, I respectfully apologize and decline.

I may seem narrow-minded in this respect, and maybe I am. I will live as I wish, and I would love to see you do the same, to live as you wish. That's all I want from anybody, in the end.

>>7460691
I don't understand, you already admitted you're a man, it should be obvious what to do.

Instead you're clinging to some fake system that hurts others and doing something that will only cause everyone pain.

How could you admit you're a man In every sense of the word and then just pull all sorts of ridiculous, imaginary excuses to say it doesn't count.

Why are gender studies women so dumb?
>If queer sex and the sexual liberation through comprehensive sexual education for women, queer, and non-binary persons can contribute to the undermining of out heteronormative patriarchal society?

>>7460705
One word: dysphoria
I'm gonna do my best to keep it at a low, thank you. I'm just also trying to be realistic about things without upsetting it too much.

>>7460717
It makes no sense, you already admitted you're biologically a man. Claiming otherwise won't make it hurt less.

>>7460730
And you seem to not understand me anymore. Born male, but hates it with a passion and wishes more than anything ever to be female? Ring any bells? Or do you not grasp how this makes a person feel?

>>7460742
If you're biologically a man you're a man. You've admitted it how could it be anything else? Don't understand how you can admit that then try and say it doesn't count.


Trying to deny what you say is an absolute truth is futile and you're only going to make it worse for yourself.

>>7460742
>wishes more than anything ever to be female? Ring any bells
might have thought that was the case once, turns out looking female was all I wanted. Don't care about being a girl acting like one or talking like one.

>>7460750
Are you implying that those with dysphoria aren't biologically male? The fuck?

Ok ok, let me lay this out as simplistically as I can, and then I'm gonna go to bed.

I was born male. I wish I was female. I recognize that I can never truly be female as I will never have female DNA or a working female reproductive system. I am doing my best then to alleviate this intense, need to be female, while recognizing that I can't actually be female. I'm doing this by transitioning and staying open and transparent about this.

If you can't grasp that, then I'm sorry, I don't know what else to say anon, and I best not say more.

Have a good evening.

>>7460763
I'm not in the LGBTQ community nor was I in this thread from the beginning, but why does it matter that you won't be a *true* female? If you are not comfortable with the sex you were born with, you should go through the transition from MtF, even if you won't be a *true* woman. If you are not happy as a male now, you never will be. And truthfully, if you stay as a male, it may lead you to end your own life one day. Become a woman and be happy, anon!

>>7460763
>Are you implying that those with dysphoria aren't biologically male
no, I said as you pointed out you are a male/man in every sense of the word. You can't sanely call yourself anything but a man and claiming some magical psych or caricature thing as a loophole hurts others and yourself.

You already said you're a man, why can't you just go with that truth.

>I was born male
you are male, a man by your own admission. Putting on a dress is just blackface and won't change that.

You've already admitted you're a man, why do you have to run away from that truth with destructive ideas.

>>7460796
>You can't sanely call yourself anything but a man
Even though you can. Gender isn't sex, retard. If she wants to be female while still being biologically male, she can.

Why are you being such a dick to her? Why does their gender identity matter that much to you that she can't consider herself female but being biologically male?

>>7460806
Gender is fake. It's a system meant to ensalve men and women. And it brutalizes gender nonconforming men and women.


Sex is all that matters.


Claiming your imaginary ideas not only promotes an abusive system but it borders on blackface and forces rigid roles tighter on everyone.

Everything has to be about sex and the body. Not your disgusting caricatures.

>>7460806
>to be female while still being biologically male
That's called being a sex predator and monster, the men raping little girls in the restroom btw.

>>7460806
I mean at least it would've been a credible argument if you claimed it was about altering ones sex traits and body To get as close as possible

Instead you say it's about pervertred orgeres of men going and calling themselves women so they can rape and engage in any sort of insane violence.


You picked the argument used by monsters.

>>7460806
I mean I was violated as a child and those hairy manly men who claim gender or their own dictatorial words magically make them women despite not having done a thing to alter their bodies have the exact same vibes of the monster. I will never feel anything other than hatred for those men.

>>7460944
That's pretty shitty. It's a shame people use this as a weapon to harm innocent children. Do what makes you happy, though; don't live your life appeasing to others, do it for yourself.

>>7460966
that person wasn't trans. But still, there's no way that someone who refuses to change their body isn't a man, and if they want in despite that, they're probably a predator.

I've tampered with my body so that physically it'll never be the same as normal men, but I still call myself a guy, I could never bring myself to call myself a woman. People who do the opposite have evil intentions.