So for the longest time I didn't think that I actually liked guys, this is because it seems that advertisers often have a hyper masculine depiction of sexuality. I see all the advertisements for really masculine ripped guys, and that kind of guy has never appealed to me. I have always been attracted to the more thin, effeminate, cute guy, like the kind you might see living in the forest as an elf. Or sometimes athletic guys who are thin and trim and have nice muscles that aren't bulging and stupid are hot too. You know the kind, 'twinks'. I realized after a while that because I might not fit the mainstream depiction of gayness, that liking some form of guys still counts as being gay.
Unfortunately, in spite of the fact that I want to swallow the cum of a really cute hot guy and take it up the but and lick their assholes and suck their penises, America is a very disgusting country. Our standard seems to be fat, there's so many fat people in america it honestly makes me unattracted to the vast majority of people in this country. I think about countries like europe or the netherlands, or any asian country, and I think about how fucking hot the guys from those countries are. I am stuck here in this shitty country filled with fat people, and that's another reason that's made me feel for so long that I couldn't possibly be into guys.
Luckily, tumblr has been a driving force in making me realize that even though the majority of guys are fucking disgusting, and the gay community has this gross obsession with masculinity that I find revolting, there is a community out there driven to provide the sort of content that I actually want to look at. This has helped me realize that I don't have to fit into some neat little box in order to fit into the gay community, and that being gay is actually really badass and cool. I hope that you will join me in the gay/gender revolution.
haha i kind of feel you. I only like bears, you know, big, chubby and hairy men. I dont like the trimmed or twinky guys at all.
I dont know what your problem is though. Not everybody has to be attractive to you. Focus on the ones you actually like, and let the others do their own thing.
And yeah i agree the "gay community" in general seems to be pretty vapid, superficial and shitty.
Also, in your opening paragraph you talk a lot about advertisers... Well you know how advertising is full of shit anyways? Like its supposed to be manipulate you to feel this sort of lack or need in your life and make you spend your money to fill that hole. Fuck advertising, it has almost nothing to do with real life lol.
>>7438422
Then move. Nothing is wrong with masculinity dip shit.
>>7438436
I never said anything about people needing to be attracted to me at all. Where did I even imply that?
>>7438422
This doesn't sound like a problem with gays, but like a problem with America. Fuck America. Fuck fat fucks. Fuck them figuratively. Slim people are hot, fat fucks aren't. Fuck all that "progressive" slim-shaming that's been going on on the internet too, everyone has their own tastes.
I'm sorry that you had to suffer and feel conflicted about your identity because of that horrible continent. I've been there once and the food was so disgustingly, nauseatingly greasy, it's no wonder everyone's so fucking fat. I hope you get to meet someone who's blessed with decent metabolism instead of American swine genes and isn't fat. Fucking hell.
>>7438445
read it again, it says attractive not attracted
>>7438422
I don't only find fat people unattractive/repulsive, the fact that they consume way more than they need to the point where it even damages them shows to me that they can't controll themselves like wild animals. Without thinking about what the concequences of their greed are they just keep eating.
I could never date a fat person
>>7438444
I can tell you're an utterly annoying person by the way you insult other people
>>7438472
>the fact that they consume way more than they need to the point where it even damages them
Lol isnt that like just about everybody nowadays in our consumerist culture, when you think about it. Get off your high horse
>>7438502
>Lol isnt that like just about everybody nowadays in our consumerist culture, when you think about it. Get off your high horse
This is just vague bullshit that doesn't mean anything. "I don't have an actual argument, so I'm going to throw meaningless buzzwords like 'consumerist culture'".
>>7438422
>tldr i am only attracted to a certain type of guys but not everyone else is too so this is a problem
>>7438472
Then I assume you aren't attracted to mansluts who whore around on Grindr or have "FWB" because like animals they can't control their libidos
>>7438422
>I'm only attracted to a very specific kind of body type and aesthetic
>It's the gay community's fault that I can't find a bf!!!
People like you are the problem with the gay community.
Revolution to fuck attractive people?
How avant garde.
>>7438422
>I only find this group of people of attractive
>but not many other people find this group attractive
>why cant everyone like what i like
>thats why i cant get a boyfriend
>this is obviously a problem and its all the gay community's fault
>>7438422
>liking twinks
>not mainstream gay
try again
>>7438502
Are you implying that no gays avoid consumer culture and still aren't religious and/or artsy fartsy? I hope not. I'm a blue collar gay who spends less thsn 100 dollars a week on bullshit with sophisticated pretentions and proud of it
>>7438422
You're a shitty special snowflake who is just like 90% of gay men in this shitty country you claim to hate. Twinks and slim men are easily one of the most desired groups, right after muscle bears. You aren't revolutionary or hating people, that's so common among gay men gay fatties have developed their own subcultures.
Your obsession with seeing yourself as "not like one of them" is part of the problem with gay men as a group- you're narcissistic and only pay attention things at a superficial level.
You'd said one thing I agree with and that's that "gay culture" has an obsession with masculinity. Gay men fetishize masculinity crazily, and I'm sorry you felt you could not relate because you prefer feminine men- but you're not special gay snowflake.
>>7438472
If you live in the first world, you are just a victim of consumerist culture as fatties and just as guilty of gluttony. Besides, there's usually more at work than just overeating. Not that I'm trying to push the blame elsewhere, but most fat people- including myself- are fat because of a lack of an active lifestyle and, sometimes combined with depression and anxiety. We might lack the will power to get off our ass and loose weight, but very rarely is it about having the inability to put food down.
>>7441862
Quit talking about consumerist culture when you're the one who eats like a pig and I'm the one who likes cute plushies and expensive headphones and buying books. I'm not actually destroying my body by being a fat fuck, you are. Stop making this false equivalency. Btw being fat looks disgusting.
>>7441963
>btw being fat looks disgusting
Oh, I agree with you, but the men who fuck me disagree. They like my belly and cottage cheese legs. Did you know that different human beings can find all sorts of things attractive? How strange.
I think, however, the most objectively unattractive quality in the world is to be a narcissistic cunt with a vapid personality. Good luck with your destructive relationships that last less than a month, and have fun coming up with ways to make yourself feel superior so you can sleep at night.
>Ref'ing Tumblr as a source of anything other than wank material
>Believing that the internet community isn't specific and that it's a majority rules situation
>>7442017
Nice way to cover for your stupid meaningless consumerist culture comment lol
>>7442087
To be fair, I'm not the one that brought up the idea of being greedy. Our culture permits gluttony, don't blame an individual, is what I'm saying. And most people in the West have plenty, even the blue collar folk (who, btw, can be fat too), and our culture permits to have plenty. Unless you give literally everything you don't need to charity, you have no right to complain about overeaters being "greedy" unless they have a starving child in front of them.
All these butthurt replies. It's ridiculous. Honestly OP, you're certainly not alone. There are plenty of people who feel alienated by "mainstream gay culture," and happen to have their niche preferences within the male gender. News flash though, it's the same for straight people. We're all individuals with our own sexual preferences, and sometimes those preferences don't align with the national narrative. Does that suck on a social level, yes, but does that mean we can't be happy and pursue the things and people we want in life? Absolutely not. Don't worry about fitting in with the crowd, just go after whatever makes your dick hard. That's real self-determinism.
>>7442157
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about destroying your body with food, you're talking about some religious bullshit.
>>7442199
You really are a vapid cunt if you can't even counter that comment.
You could have said >being so low in willpower that you can't escape the environment and habits that made you fat
But no, instead you posted proof of your lack of critical thought. Shit man, I ain't even a gay man so I have no dog in this fight. I just saw what played out and I'm stuck here shaking my head.
>>7438422
Huge excessively strong guys are not really hot, but it is extremely hot to be in their presence, to submit to them. It is extremely hot to lose yourself on them, to know just how powerful they are. But yes, that is a very different kind of "hot". Guys who are definitely stronger than average, but not fuck-huge are definitely the "hottest" aesthetically, but you can be attracted to raw power, as well. Then again, I think that might not be everyone's cup of tea...
Personally, I've been having a lot more trouble with the double standard as applied to gay couples. It feels as if we are not perfect in every way we have no right to exist, as if it's only acceptable to be gay if you're also perfectly handsome and smart and rich, maybe because that's the only type of gay that gets some sort of a-ok seal from society.
Maybe there really is a problem with the gay community and how it is perceived, but I don't think there's much to be done on that front until homophobia ends.
>>7438422
>the gay community has this gross obsession with masculinity that I find revolting
Funny, I find it's the exact opposite. The gay community at my university is pretty much entirely made up of effeminate flamers. I feel like I'm left out and made to feel like the weirdo for being masculine. Like I don't count because I don't fit into some neat little box, like you said.
But here's the thing. Being gay doesn't automatically mean that you have to be part of a community. By rejecting the masculinity box, you're falling into the femininity box and vice versa. I know it sounds cliche or whatever, but instead of trying to be a part of some community, try just being yourself. You don't have to be or act a certain way just because you're gay, and your sexuality isn't your only defining trait.
>being gay is actually really badass and cool
No it's not, it's literally just who you chose to sleep with. It's not some cool fad, being gay doesn't automatically make you some kind of badass, it's just how you are.
>the gay/gender revolution
Your sexuality is not a revolution. Taking someone's dick up your ass does not make you a revolutionary, it makes you gay, and that's it.
>>7438422
THANK YOU OP
I swear this shit just isn't brought up enough.
The gay community has fallen into this hypermasculinity worship meme which is just disgusting.
And embarrassing also, because those "masc gays" usually try so hard to be manly that they don't realize they act like fucking caricatures or the characters from a shitty bara fanfiction manga (without the looks of course)
Now you have fat greasy dudes calling themselves "masc" and "bear" and "bara" and it's just ridiculous.
It doesn't matter if your ass crack is hairy. You are a fucking faggot anyways. Stop trying so hard being something you are not and start being happy.
>>7442400
Wow, I want to go to your university.
>>7442426
>Now you have fat greasy dudes calling themselves "masc" and "bear" and "bara" and it's just ridiculous.
This grinds my gears so hard! It's like they just forgo everything that makes a bear a bear and just use "bear" as an euphemism for "obese". Fuck those guys. They're not bears, they're just disgusting fatasses.
But to be honest, this whole craze for masculinity is just a response that a lot of gays have from seeing society accuse us gays of being women. They don't want it to be true, so they try to be manly and do manly things with other manly men.
At the same time, there are also a lot of gays who just give up and go full feminine even though that's not who they are, simply because they erroneously believe that this is what must come to pass, since they're gay and all that.
I like to think that both eventually grow out of this phase and find themselves in the end.
>>7438422
The "problem" with the gay community is that the majority are men with a paraphilia for men. It's like letting a dog off its leash. Absolutely disgusting. This is the reason for every negative stereotype about gays. It's the reason they're walking vectors of disease. It's the reason twinks get pumped and dumped and have to learn the hard lesson that guys were only ever interested in relationships of convenience. Gay marriage was a joke, not because people are bigots, but because anyone with an ounce of clarity sees no love among gays. And I say this as a fag who unironically cuddles men. Don't lie to me. I know every one of you has been creeped on. Oh and the religious ones are the worst. I think true love between men is exceedingly rare.
>>7442532
I could't care less about the public's perception of gay people, they can go die.
>>7438422
Amerifag here, finishing up my third year in the UK. Let me tell you: there are plenty of fat British fags as well....
>>7438472
>shows to me that they can't controll themselves like wild animals
I'm generally not into fat people but the way you put it they're pretty hot.
>>7438422
>there is a community out there driven to provide the sort of content that I actually want to look at.
Then stay on tumblr with its community and get out of the gay community. Don't let the door hit your faggot ass on the way out.
>being gay is actually really badass and cool
No, it actually kinda sucks. There are plenty of gay guys who would like to be straight so they could conform with society at large. Wait, are you even gay?
It shouldn't be surprising that most gay men, including myself, prefer masculine men. Everyone's got a type but preferring the idealized male over any other kinds of guy, like bears, twinks, or pocket gays, makes a lot of sense.
Maybe that's why so many gay men are attracted to straight men?