/mtfg/ - Male to Female General

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>>7282768
hug laur

>nim thread
uwu

>>7282779
is that bad

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>mfw someone says mean things about my favourite trip

>>7282781
Wtf no it's best thread

>>7282781
no its good uwu

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tfw still no manga tahm fan art :(

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

nice

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>>7282742
I only have a few dresses that I wear.
I want more, they're super comfy and make me feel pretty n stuff.

>>7282751
Hugg lauren

>>7282783
Who's your favorite trip?

>>7282787
lauren ily

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>>7282783
*tips fedora*

i do feel the same way about my 3 fave trips tho

>>7282794
nim ily2

>>7282791
hi

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owo

My waist to hip ratio is 0.81 what does this mean for me?

>>7282734
It's how I deal with mine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>7282769
nim I haven't seen you in awhile hi

>>7282783
Same

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Fuck, fuck, fuck. I'm fucking crying at work holy shit. How do I hold this in?

Fucking. Why do people feel the need to text me and explain to me why in their opinion I'm not actually trans?

>>7282804
What is the avg ratio for a cis girl?

>>7282806
oh that's some cunty shit.

do you have to deal with customers?

>>7282806
go to the bathroom and cry. it gives u time to let it out

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>>7282783
>tfw nobodys favourite trip

What makes overall dresses fetishy? Somebody mentioned it in the last thread and idk why

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>>7282772
How are you sheen?
>>7282806
:c
>>7282783
Same

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>>7282791
Just don't go for hipster ones.

>>7282819
nothing lol, dresses are fine

>>7282813
Yeah, I stepped out to use the washroom. But like, fuuuuuck. I'm bawling my eyes out. The fucking men's washroom.

nim thread best thread

>>7282791
I went to a friends house after wearing a dress for the most of the day, so I changed into pants, and it felt really weird. Like my legs felt more confined in certain ways?

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>>7282804
Is it really dealing with it if you're still depressed and suicidal? Dealing with problems implies that you're finding healthy coping strategies instead of doing the same thing that's causing you to snap.
Nobody expects you to pretend to be happy all the time, you're a human being not a machine.

>>7282821
What defines a hipster dress in this day and age? I've fallen off or rather never really been on the fashion wagon.

>>7282834
They are more physically confining. Idk, some people with really big thighs basically only wear skirts and dresses because pants are uncomfortable.

>>7282834
i get what you mean when you wear trousers after wearing skirts for a long time you really feel the weight of them and they seem kinda cumbersome

>tfw i just want someone to cum in my mouth

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>It has nothing to do with you wanting to be a girl.
>Your mindset is just wrong.
>I don't envy people who are better than me, that's worthless, stop feeling envy just because you're never going to be like a girl.
>You're an idiot if you think you can't fix your own mindset.
>You're going to transition and still be miserable, it has nothing to do with you wanting to be a girl.
>Learn to accept yourself and move on.
FUCK OFFFF LEAVE ME ALONE

>>7282845
Wear flares or palazzo pants.

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>>7282854
What if you live in the 2010s?

>>7282853
god that sounds toxic af

i would stop talking to the people saying this, that's just horrible

>>7282806
Human Resources.

what do you think cuddling sertii feels like

>>7282871
trip on, maeve

>>7282874
wrong trip but thank you for thinking that

>>7282863
You don't have to blindly follow trends.

>>7282871
What do you think cuddling hanna feels like?

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>>7282871
honestly I need cuddles RIGHT NOW but knowing im not getting any any time soon just kills me a bit inside

>>7282876
owo

>>7282769
Come on Nim! You forgot to link the prev thread!

>>7282881
cudd

>>7282881
I've never had cuddles and it'll be years before I get them. But I really really need them.

>>7282891
>I've never had cuddles
did you grow up in a monastery or something

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>>7282889
:3

>>7282891
this desu

i used to be unsure but the "cuddles are like crack for trannies" meme really turned out to be true

>>7282893
cuddles are gay for a manly man/repressing tranny

>>7282893
I grew up repressed, depressed, and friendless.

i love cuddles

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>>7282798
Shit, sorry I missed your (you)
How's it going nim?

>>7282879
Blindly not following them isn't exactly a viable substitute though.

>>7282902
elanna I love cuddles
cudd elann

>>7282896
I cuddle a pillow, but I don't really know what it feels like to cuddle another person who like cares about you.

I hate that I've never had anyone who would hold me.

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Why does she still look cute, despite wearing such chunky boots?

I tried on less chunky boots and it looked weird on me: I'm pretty skinny myself, it actually just made my size 43 EU look like a 45 ;-;

Is lanlan the best trip? I look up to her a lot.

>tfw trip
>tfw yuge crush on hanna

>>7282911
lanlan lovlov <3

>>7282903
Cudd anon
D-dont go making my roomie jealous ;_;

I really need to cry rn

>>7282914
can we cuddle together

Ok, first spiro+estrogen down the hatch
Worst thing that can happen is that I wont pass and will be an even more fem guy than now

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alright im gonna go to bed and fantasize about cuddles
night

>>7282904
>I hate that I've never had anyone who would hold me.

fuck yeah same :(

>>7282909
>Why does she still look cute?

she's asian m80

>>7282911

yeah same she's pretty smart and mature but don't tell her i said that

>>7282829
ugh something came up sorry for late reply

i'm so sorry, that's really awful and the last bit is salt in the wound of course

i don't really know what to say but i hope you can summon peace and make it through the rest of the workday. people suck. ><

>>7282911
she's a good choice for newbie's first trip crush - most people start with elanna and then move on to someone else.

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>tfw wake up every day still a man
>tfw wake up every day

Ive been asking about this across multiple threads but what are all your opinions on spiegel? Im booked for FFS with him and I hear tons of people talk shit yet havent heard of any objectively awful results from him. if anything just that his bone work is subtle but can be more invasive if you ask him to?

I dont know how to make sense of it.

>>7282925
I moved from Elanna to you, anon.

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>>7282923
>tfw no ayyshun
FUG IT IM GONNA BUY ME DOCS TOO AND ILL JUST PRETEND I'M CUTE AS WELL UGHHHH

>>7282928
You will look exactly the same. Sorry, but like, look at his before and afters all of them are makeup and lighting then no makeup and lighting in the before pics. You should just save up and go to deschamps braly.

hugg quid
hugg sert
hugg maeve
hugg elann

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>>7282921
Sure I cleared it with my cuddbuddy

>>7282911
But why ;_;
I'm kind of a loser and I run my mouth a lot.

>>7282930
>crushing on anons
do you also eat vanilla ice cream and only ever stick to the tourist traps on holiday?

>>7282939
cuddbudd

>>7282938
hugggg <3

>>7282934
Deschamps braly has no before and afters on his page at all. Everything I hear is that hes about as invasive as spiegel though

List of posters I've crushed on

Elanna
Marathon
An anon that doesn't post here anymore
Gem
Kit
Beep
Faye
Valq
Hanna

Mainly the first two though

>>7282938
hugg laur

have you ever had a 'Lauren' crush

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bjorgfist sorry u gotta wait so long
pls forgive me if u read this

i wanna make sure i dont look like a very masculine clown when the time comes

i'm dyng of migranise

>>7282949
Marathon ?

I want to be a gothic lolita desu

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>>7282940
Anons are the best crushes though

>>7282943
huggcudd

HOW DO I MAKE TAHM MY BF HE IS PERFECT

>>7282960
JUST DO IT
cheaply

buy from lacemarket to start out and see how it looks on you

Throughout the series, Elanna shows a sensible and mature attitude, usually calm and collected even when someone is acting tense in front of her. However, she can also show a much more timid side at times. She has been described as a tsundere by Rintarou Okabe and Itaru Hashida time and time again, though she is shown to be annoyed whenever someone calls her that.

Mature as she is, Elanna is very sarcastic, and often expresses this through her annoyance at Okabe's 'mad scientist' antics. She seems to hate being nicknamed, as she dislikes all of the names that Okabe gives her, with 'The Zombie' bugging her most of all. Ironically, on the rare occasions he uses her real name, she takes it as a sign that something is seriously wrong.

Her accomplishments in spite of her youth have exposed Elanna to the jealousy of those who consider themselves her betters. As a result, she has adopted an acerbic attitude that functions to hide her vulnerabilities. At heart, Elanna is a very curious girl who loves science and can't resist an interesting experiment. She occasionally makes statements - for example, that data collection should be considered before a subject's privacy - that have led Okarin to dub her a fellow mad scientist. Elanna does not approve.

Though she's hesitant to admit it, she's a frequent user of the image board 4chan, donning the identity "Banana and Gayfer". Okabe likes to trick her into admitting this habit, much to her chagrin. When posting on 4chan her personality is noticeably different, as she often uses Netspeak or emoticons to communicate and her posts are generally much less mature than her usual dialogue

>>7282955
>125 x 111

>>7282971
bamboozled again :^D

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>>7282949
I've crushed on umaruchan/kira and Faye in the past but I don't have any current crushes

>>7282963
>Anons are the best crushes though
even you deserve better than that

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where is she

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http://www.strawpoll.me/11718664

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I can't wait till this day is over, I get a 3 day weekend afterwards.

>>7282979
hi

>>7282980
Hi Anon.

>>7282979
>an australian enters the thread
(I'm posting via the steam browser right now, so please pretend there's a picture of a disgusted or angry anime girl attached to this post)

>>7282964
you wine and dine me, i keep telling evrywun the same thing senpai

>>7282958
An anon that's easy to pick out

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>>7282975
I'm telling my crush that you said that
Edit: you made them cry

>>7282979
I've a exam tomorrow and I don't know shit x_x

>>7282902
im okay, not too bad

how are you doing

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>>7282970
I wish that this character bio didn't fit as well as it does

Three bottles for a tenner, red pink or white will keep muh transbaes legs open all night!

>>7282976
rare kit

>>7282994
>I wish that this character bio didn't fit as well as it does

>Her accomplishments in spite of her youth

>>7282983
Steam browser was always too slow for me.

>>7282989
Damn, I've known that feel. What's it on?

>>7282999
That's cornflakes.

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>go out in comfy oversized heather grey knit sweater, pants, and vans
>sleeves are hella long and cover my hands, the bottom ends above my knees and makes me feel smoll
>everyone is nice to me while i happily listen to music even tho it's hella crowded due to thanksgiving
>mfw i can basically wear whatever i want and just be myself and not have any issues

i mean i still get gendered female the entire time and stuff but that's not a big deal rly. i feel very privileged rn desu.

>>7282976
I want to know what that anon who knew her pre-trans meant

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>>7282993
I'm tired as per the usual
Been depressed af this week

>>7283000
Yeah, I more mean the personality shit, I'm tsundere in real life.
Obviously I'm not an accomplished scientist and don't know an okabe

>>7282976
this the anon that knew her pre-trans? you missed her >>7281976

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rare kit
t. anon

>>7283010
oh im sorry

what's got you down

>>7283013
I really hate conventionally attractive people

>>7283013
Would watch them fuck/10

>look at body
>see masculine feature
>start to breathe fast and try incredibly hard to disconnect my mind from my body
I hate these feels
>>7282949
Where did gem go
>>7282922
Good luck anon

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remember this

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Daily reminder the majority of society thinks you're all mentally ill entitled snowflakes.

Happy Thanksgiving, travel safe and God bless!

>>7283029
yes

>>7283002
tariff autonomy or free collective bargaining(?) and so on. It's politics so it shouldn't be too bad e_e

>>7283029
lmao

>>7283030
blatantly false in 2016, thankfully

some of those things, sure, but not all of them together

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>>7283030

>>7282967
Idk my facial features are a bit sharp to look remotely cute honestly

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>>7283034
Nice, I hope you do well.

>>7283013
isnt that an FTM?

what should I do tomorrow
i don't want to see my family they hate transgendereds

IMPORTANT

http://www.strawpoll.me/11718816
http://www.strawpoll.me/11718816
http://www.strawpoll.me/11718816

>wake up with a mad hangover
>finished a bottle of scotch
>empty bottle of pills on the floor
>pick it up
>i tried to overdose on multivitamins
literally fuck my life

>>7283047
death grips a shit

>>7283048
If at first you don't succeed try again.

>>7283048
You can actually overdose on some vitamins. Especially vitamin A. Not a nice way to die.

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>>7283049
>death grips a shit
pls no bully

>>7283013
cute couple

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>>7283049
Ha!

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>>7282891
*Cuddles u

>>7282896
*Cuddles you

>>7282900
*Cuddles you

>>7282902
*Cuddles your butt

>>7282926
*Cuddles u 2

>>7282949
>Not crushing on Sass
Literally why?

>>7282955
I want in on that party!
>Tfw 3 cuddles are better than 1

>>7282960
>Gothic lolita in japan
>Sissy clothing in the west

>>7282964
Back off bitch!

>>7283021
Cuddles u

>>7282997
Ugh! Stop being a slut. ;)

Also I'm an italian living in guatemala with hella mixed ancestry. :3

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Tfw you barely hace anything yo dickpick about

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>>7283030
Joke's on you I am mentally ill~

>>7283015
Seasonal depression
Tranny feels
Stress

>>7283060
same

>>7283051
don't you know it

>>7283060
*Cuddles u :3

>>7283055
Hey cutie :)

>>7283010
>I'm tsundere in real life.
Yeah, the field reports we've been getting indicate you're a bit of a tease/flirty.

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>>7283063
>tfw man hands

>tfw back into full repression mode
These last few weeks are at least gonna be fun.

someone end my skull

>>7283060
>tfw you remember when basic used to be nice and innocent, before she did nothing but lewdpost 24/7

>>7283060
A+++

>>7283062
>Sissy clothing in the west
I'd argue that sweet lolita would be more at risk for being associated with that

>>7283062
>Not crushing on Sass
who?

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>>7283067
I am not a tease or flirty, I unintentionally send flirty signals ;~;

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>>7283068
>Tfw fat manhands

>>7283073
Hey fiancee doesn't provide her with nearly enough dick

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>>7283077
remember this

>>7283071
a-amy?

>>7283077
omfg i fucking hate this

so many hurt feelings after ppl try to ask me out and then i feel like total shit

>>7283073
I'm sorry, forgive me anon ;~;
I'll try my best to be pure from now on I swear

>>7283077
Os theres really a pragmatic diferente?

>>7283077
>unintentionally
i really wish i could believe this, elanna

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>>7283068
ah, the feels ;(

>>7283086
Don't listen to Anon! ;_;

>>7283095
That could be worse.

>invited to cousins for Thanksgiving
>they don't know I transitioned

boy or girl mode? my brother isn't going to they will have nothing to compare me with.

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>>7283081
Yeah, it me

>>7283085
It's the worst
I like bite my lip and play with my hair when I'm deep in thought or just bored and people probably read that as me being into them ;~;

>>7283094
It's true!
I just act like myself and people think I'm being flirty ;~;

>>7283091
The intention is what matters, I'm not a sloot

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>>7283096
But I have to be innocent and nice for people to like me

Not an awful lewdposting slut ;~;

>>7283103
Until reading minds becomes standard intencions don't matter much.

>>7283086
IT'S TOO LATE

YOU'VE BEEN RUINED BY COCKLUST, JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM

>>7283071
repression isn't healthy senpai

>>7283104
Stop trying yo be grace.

>>7283107
I'm not ruined ;~;
I can be saved. I just need you to help me.
Please take my hand anon ;~;

>>7283107
Only anons are pure.

>>7283104
>tfw no boy will ever bite you on your nip

>>7283062
OH YOU SPEAK SPANISH?

I'm no slut :C

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>>7283106
;~;
Does this mean I'm subconsciously a slut?

>>7283113
>Holding hands
You keep slutting it up!

>>7283112
but grace tries to be elanna

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>>7283118

>>7283118
that's because you are a hon of all hons

>>7283109
Eh, I've been consciously repressing for almost three years straight.
It's not that hard.
I only really have to last another month or so anyway.

>>7283124
Maybe. But people can only judge you for your actions, intended or not. For all we know hitler was trying to stop it all and people just didnt get him.

how many consecutive nights can I drink grain alcohol before dying while taking cypro and estrofem
I feel hungover and I want it to go away

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hi

>>7283113
>Please take my hand anon ;~;
i would, but they've probably got two dicks in them right at this very moment

>>7283126
And the cycle of copying the copy will never stop.

>>7283112
How can I get people to like me?
(._. )

>>7283125
I don't mean like that anon ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>7283126
anon please I'm a little dumb I can't follow ;~;

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>>7283068
>tfw manicure tomorrow

Why is bullying basic the greatest joy in the world?

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>>7283062
How many languages does Sass speak?

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>>7283127
w-what

>>7283133
this is true

>>7283147
Everyone loves you, thats why they tease you. We cant compete with the real gf if we try to go the sincere route.

>>7283142
hai best hamham

>>7283161
OMG that gif

what an amazing followup

>>7283152
i read this as

who is bullying basic, the greatest joy in the world?

>>7283152
cuz you were bullied obviously

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>>7283137
Well fuck
This concerns me
I bet people think I'm a slut

>>7283104
>>7283161

>no one is biting ur boobs right now

horrible feel

>>7283152
because she's nice and doesn't really fight back. it's an easy win every time

>>7283169
if it's any comfort, i definitely think you're a slut

>>7283171
clothespins are an exquisite pain when applied by someone you love

>>7283144
Omfg anon
I have No Dicks in my hands. My hands are free for you to save me, or wipe the tears away after you abandon me

>>7283152
Wtf why do you want to bully me what joy do you get out of this

>>7283165
Nobody loves me I'm trash
I wish there were emojis on 4chan Bc I was gonna put the sunglasses one after that

>>7283169
Well, then you dont loose anything becoming one
On the other hand you might just look like a tease.

>>7283142
hi maeve

>>7283178
It just makes me feel warm inside imagining you all flustered.

>>7283077
play flirting is okay

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>>7283182
Honestlyyy people just think I'm shy.
Tease may be more accurate. Not a good thing to be.

>>7283193
Play flirting has to be something you're consciously doing for it to be ok though.
My body language tends to be unintentionally flirty.

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>Lets see whats going on with facebook!
>within 5 mins random guys messaging you and sending you voice/video chat invites
H-how do I set myself to Do Not Disturb on facebook?

>>7283194
yeah i get what you mean ;)

im actually Lauren u guys got tricked lul

>>7282769
>>>7283182
>My body language tends to be unintentionally flirty.
It's time to post a webm.

>>7283188
I DON'T GET FLUSTERED

>>7283198
lauren why

>>7283029
No, what is this?

>>7283203
im sorry

>>7283198
Wtf

>>7283202
Not even whey cute boys say hi to you?

>>7283213
no

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>>7283196
>Log into Facebook
>~150 friends
>Not a single message

i want to bully basic until she turns red like a tomato

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>>7283201
I don't know how to capture a webm of day to day body language. ;~;
I can describe it but not much else.

>>7283197
*flirts in your general direction*

>>7283201
I'm not sure you can show that sort of thing on a blue board

>>7283071
I truly believe it is because unpresentable transgender people who were born out of hugboxing dominate the trans community. I lost 18 years of my life being too afraid to transition due to society's perception of what trans people look like. When someone thinks of the term "transgender", it doesn't mean passing or beautiful, let alone like "a woman" because that is no longer the goal in this community. Instead, people are fighting for their rights to be accepted as abhorrent oddities.

If everyone in this community had the guts to tell each other the truth, we wouldn't be in this mess. At least, far less likely to be ridiculed at visible corners of society as everyone would be doing their best to improve themselves or better yet hiding themselves until they are socially acceptable.

This community needs to stop lying to itself. This is our one last chance at a happy life and we are throwing it out the window to please the less fortunate, all the while doing them a disservice in lack of much needed motivation.

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how many of you would wear this, its important, i need to know

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>>7283217
>only has 150 friends on facebook

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>>7282769
30 days until Christmas

>>7283239
>using facebook

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>>7283239
I only add people I've met in person.

>having a facebook account
why do people do this

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>>7283221
I don't turn red anon ok
I'm immune to teasing

>>7283237
If I had the body to get away with it I might. otherwise, no.

>>7283240
What's so stunning about Christmas?

>>7283243
ikr? all my friends are on 4chan.

>>7283148
How about you save up your money to get your face fixed again?

>>7283148
That's nightmare fuel

>>7283234
Literally what?

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>>7283251
literally everything

>>7283237
нeт cпacибo

Okay, what variables make someone pass or not pass as female?

>>7283255
ayyy you're back!

>>7283240
Is that your only purpose in life sheen? To be happy one day a year because the rest of the year is too miserable for you to artificially happy? Maybe if you had any self-respect you would've gotten the help you needed a long time ago

>>7283261
the rantings of a schoziphrenic who thinks he's the smartest person in the room

>>7283265
cyka blyat bochka bass kolbaser

>>7283249
YOU MIGHT? Don't you wanna look like a badass slav grill?

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>>7283104
>>7283161
the one thing gravity falls is good for

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Hi please help me out guys i really need ur help

I started questioning my own sexuality and also my gender about a year ago. Im not sure why, It could be because one of my friends came out as Bi and I took it very surprisingly.

But my questioning and uncertainty all happened very slowly. It started with me thinking I was Bi, then after more time, I thought I was Gay, and then suddenly, at a party, my friend started talking about trans things and it felt like it was the truth, it was kinda in shock, and then I cried a lot, like a little baby, because I thought I was trans, or I was actually pretty sure that I were.

And ever since that day I was sure I was trans. But now, 1,5 years later, my psychologist says that its something I have made up and believed in. She says im not trans.

So who do I believe in here? Myself or a psychologist?
How do I properly question and properly identify my own sexuality and gender? How do I know when im attracted to a guy and when im attracted to a woman? How do I know if I feel more like a girl inside than a boy?

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>>7283268
I mean, pretty much yes

>>7283228
a description would be cool.
I wanna learn how to be a huge slutty flirt from you.

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>>7283217
Ive been getting adds like every day now, I posted my picture in an LSD group and Ive been getting blown up since.

>>7283239
>tfw under 500 friends
Im a total fucking loser.
Other girls have thousands :(

>>7283273
Are you me?

I think what i've been old is just start playing around with it. Whether than means doing makeup, acting for feminine. I dunno desu. Pretend you were a girl, what would you do? How does doing that make you feel?

>>7283237
All adidas clothing feels like printing their brand on your head and going out to sell their stuff

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>>7283261
On the topic of repression, that is.

>>7283270
At least I don't look like you, Alice~

>>7283271
I'd like to, but my bone structure is now fucked up so that shirt dress won't work on me.

>>7283280
Adidas=gucci in the hood famalam.

>>7283284
Oh. :C What if it was a pullover?

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>>7283281
Yeah she looks better than you lmao.

>>7283284
once you lose weight it will probably be the same as it ever was
you should go vegan btw

>>7283273
it's a weird concept to trust someone else when it comes to your own feelings. psychs tend to push their conclusions just to see if you stand your ground, if you don't you're proving them right when they assume you are just influenced by other people.

>>7283287
>Adidas=gucci in the hood famalam.
I won't deny this as long as it is fake adidas. Otherwise you're asking to be mugged.

>>7283279
No you are you, i am me

So should i try put a dildo up my ass? I tried something similar, i didnt really like it desu. I prefer masturbating normally.

But i will try act more feminime and see if i like it. Any tips?

>>7283251
I pretty much agree with this. I'd rather be in a room full of people who actually think I'm a woman, rather than a "poor unfortunate man trying to look like a woman". The pity of others disgusts me, and the best way to counteract it is to improve myself until I'm actually adorable.

>>7283288
i don't even know who that alice is that cnt is accusing me of being, but i'm not going to start arguing with a fictional character on a chinese finger puppet image board

DAE think that Mac DeMarco is gonna come out as Trans in the next few years?

such a nice day to drop trip

>>7283288
don't interact, be like water, my friend.

>>7283296
>improve myself until I'm actually adorable.
it depends on how long that takes.
an adorable 30 year old is just a creep

>>7283287
Still wouldn't work. rib cage to big compared to hips.

>>7283273
If you have to ask someone else if you are trans, you are not trans.

>>7283296
was meant for >>7283234

the worst part about cnt is that she ends up having her own bubble of delusional people that fit with her own views and never leaves.

>>7283293
>I won't deny this as long as it is fake adidas. Otherwise you're asking to be mugged.

I lol'd hard, so true.

>>7283302
Ah. :C

>>7283293
Thats why im freaking out kinda. I mean, i think about this everyday, as soon as i wake up. "Ah this trans thing again"

I wanna be able to determine my sexuality and gender in some proper way, but it seems like the only thing i can do is to listen to my heart and feelings?

For me this is hard, sometimes i dont know if im thinking the truth, or feeling the truth or whatever..

>>7283295
different anon, start with something small-ish to get used to the feeling
I have noo idea how some people don't enjoy the feeling, it seems to me like they're going about it wrong

>>7283288
He looks like mister bean and what's funny is he thinks he doesn't get clocked because "he transitioned early". The delusions on that thing.. And how about you? you're lying to yourself due to a conflict of interest. If you agree he looks like shit, he would get upset and you're only trying to retain the friendship. Everyone knows this, so stop with the act already.

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>>7283275
My body language in general comes across as shy and submissive. I tend to avoid eye contact and I try to stick to the edges of groups and defer to other people. Most people seem to think I'm skittish or shy. In general I try to appear smaller than I am. If however, I'm comfortable around someone, I tend to be quite animated, and I speak with my hands a lot.

Under these circumstances I tend to smile a lot, make eye contact, and I also have a tendency towards playing with my hair. When I'm bored or deep in thought I tend to bite my lip and play with my hair.

>>7283295
A few weeks ago I tried doing makeup for the first time (with a friend). It was done really well so the first time I looked in the mirror was a shock. But the fact I have super short hair kinda killed the whole thing for me.. and body hair.

My advice I'd give myself which I need to take, and you could take is.. To you.. what does it mean to be a girl? Could it be makeup, pretty dresses, boobs, just acting feminine however you describe that.. Just go with those feelings and explore. You could just go full dress makeup, hair, everything, and look at yourself in the mirror and be like "meh, that's not me. Idc about being this" Or your reaction could be more like "Wow.. I wish I could be like this forever, I am beautiful. I wish I could be more feminine, START PILLS NOW!" Like some people so I've heard.

It's a huge discovery/exploration thing that definitely takes awhile.

>>7283309
well, yeah.
it's like choosing a career. you get to use the criteria you want but it's sort of your choice at the end.

>>7283310
do you have like a timeline of sizes or something? the only time I was at a sex shop there was so much variety I just didn't buy anything.

>>7283314
>>7283275
Oh, and I flinch when people make sudden movements or get close. I think I'm just nervous they're going to hit me or something.

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>>7283313
Eh she's not most attractive or feminine girl I've seen but she still comes off as a girl to me.
You however just look like some faggot beta male who browses too much tumblr.

>>7283314
>I tend to bite my lip and play with my hair.
that's a bit much for everyday conversations or people you just met.
unless you want to fuck them I guess...

>>7283296
Hugboxing attempts to provide assistance in an artificial way, but instead it is a harmful distraction for the vitality of transitioners. Too bad the circle jerking never stops.. It's almost like a pathetic attempt to thwart the standard of passing. It's always one of the two - either they legitimately feel sorry for the hon or they think saying someone passes when they don't will also equate to their low quality beings certified as passing. It's truly sad and so detrimental to the community.

>>7283314
>In general I try to appear smaller than I am
What do you mean by this

>>7283320
lol I would just buy one that call itself "small"
the girth is the issue

overall though once you get used to the feeling, more girth reeeeally feels great

>>7283314
Wait I make and keep eye contact and try to look interested and smile a lot when talking to people and do stuff with my hands. I also tilt my head and touch my neck a lot out of habit
That's not being flirty right? :/

>>7283328
don't interact, there's nothing to get from her besides huge walls of text sperging about things in her mind.

>>7283334
i was expecting some sort of gaygen aproved size progression, maybe I'll ask them for an infographic or something.

>>7283328
And you look like a hon who is too afraid to even post a picture of himself on 4chan because he knows he'll get made fun of? At least I have the confidence to show myself, do you even have that? I guess not and everyone can only imagine just how worse off you are. Fucking idiot

can you guys help me learn how 2 make up? i have been watching youtube tutorials but i dont understand them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpin1GZUzTo

>>7283329
I don't do it on purpose! It's a thing I do without even thinking about it.

>>7283333
I slouch, I cross my legs, I tend to just try to take up as little space as possible. This is in contrast to holding yourself high and spreading out.

>>7283338
Basic, you flirt

>>7283338
that's pretty flirty.
but the lip biting is by far the most direct flirt thing that's still socialy acceptable besides grabbing their hand.

>>7283328
I wish cnt wasn't here so you actually would post a picture of yourself :(

>>7283273
dressing in girl clothes won't necessarily do anything and could very well just depress you regardless of if you're trans or not, putting shit up your ass has nothing to do with it

why is it that your psychologist thought you made it up?

>>7283346
i-i was just bullying btw, elann purest girl

>>7283348
why would you do that with people like her around?

>>7283346
do you do that thing where you cross your legs and put both elbows on the same leg?

>>7283348
He won't and it's nothing to do with me. I am not the reason why he is so fucking ugly to the point of absolute shame and disgust

W-what if my dysphoria is actually the product of government experimentation?

>>7283342
Quick couple sincere questions, legitimately curious.

Do you have a single friend in real life?

Do you have a single friend online?

>>7283319
I agree, this is a huge discovery process thing. I wish there were more help out there for people that are questioning themselves.

I just dont wanna screw up. I dont wanna come out as trans and have my identity forever fucked, i mean, if i come out and im not trans afterall.

>>7283344
The dollar store near me sells usable makeup. Just buy a buncha that from drugstores, etc and mess with it

>>7283356
I have a small group of good friends in real life.

I have online friends and acquaintances from irc and /g/.

Any other intrusive questions?

>>7283273
>>7283351
I have to second the idea of not going for the first dress you find and trying it on, certain things can make you look horrible whether you're trans or not.

t- female chaser

>>7283346
I need to work on my customer relations...

>>7283347
I bite my lip a lot but rarely in conversation.
I've stopped putting Vaseline on my lips whole people are watching tho since manly people said here it was rude

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>>7283291
see >>7283302
When I was young, my rib cage was only 24" with 34" hips. My hips are now 45" with a 44" rib cage. All that T and HGH they pumped me full of fucked up proportions. My shoulders are even a slight bit narrow for my rib cage size.

>>7283308
I used to wear form fitting dresses like that, though my favorite was to wear wrap dresses.

>ftw I need to get ready for tonight.

>>7283356
Kek'd.

>>7283355
then it's your patriotic duty to transition

>>7283357
you can try stuff before coming out

>>7283365
is vaseline on lips to avoid cracking?

>>7283363
Uh, yeah, what the hell do you talk about?

I seriously can't comprehend you actually having a pleasant conversation, you literally don't seem to be capable of it.

>>7283370
LOL

>>7283370
I would never date a trans girl because I'm not desperate for the human touch like some of these attention loving pitiful excuses of whores.

>>7283375
I'd assume you wouldn't because you hate all transwomen.

>the you will never have a crush that will let you snuggle them in one of your three vacation homes

I guess I'll just have to be 5ever alone

>>7283372
Yeah, my lips get really dry and sore when it's cold so I always carry some with me

>>7283375
lmao way more cis people proposition me than trans people, bud

I date trans people because I don't feel like having to put up with transplaining stuff to my partner and I want them to understand personally what dysphoria is.

>>7283351
I think its because im having different meanings about this. On one hand, i wanna continue as a boy, and on the other hand, i wanna come out as trans and live an exciting life. But all of these trans feelings were created basicly just on believing my questioning. I dont know if im right or wrong. I dont know if these 'feelings' are fake or not. Its kinda scary.

Its hard to explain this, but i have been questioning myself, looked at guys and shit, i actually tried some of my moms clothes too but i didnt like it, it was weird.

Its weird because i tried acting like a girl in school too and see if i liked it. I dont know if i can say that i liked it or not.. I just wanna be a dude.. But what if im a girl??

>>7283357
So look. If you're around my age ~22 +- 2years.

And lets say two years from NOW you actually do realize you're trans and start HRT. That isn't really going to matter. The results you could get now are basically going to be the same two years from now. There is no rush.

I'd recommend getting a THERAPIST that specializes in trans issues and not so much a psychiatrist. I saw a psychiatrist for an unrelated manor and it was ok. I just went to my first appointment with a therapist and it went a lot better.

>>7283373
We mainly talk about programming, ideas, problem solving, music, art, and films.

I'm not even a bad person, I'm just sick of being treated like a bag of shit here and I've hit the point of callousness. In return, I don't feel like I need to tell you anything nice, if there isn't anything nice about it.

>>7283379
I had a dream about visiting people from here last night, the bulk of it was shared between being lost in a city and having a very unconfortable night at your house while you fought with your gf.

>>7283383
if you keep feeding them they'll never leave. stop giving them reasons to stay here.

>>7283366
you are also super fat now with male muscle on top from a life of farm work so like dont give up

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>>7283342
I'm not denying I have no confidence to post a pic dude but hey at least I'm not a schizo cunt who posts my ramblings on a Chinese Claynation Image Board.

>>7283378
I really don't hate transwomen. I consider them my sisters.

>>7283383
It sounds like to me you're putting too much weight on the initial surface level convenience in your so-called dating life.

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>>7283379
when are you getting ffs, srs and a civilian boyfriend?

>>7283281
that wasn't me also my eyes look pretty in that picture

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>>7283353
Not both elbows, I rest my head on my hand and elbow on my leg sometimes though

>>7283351
I'm pretty not pure though

>>7283365
Yeah

>>7283370
Am Canadian
Can confirm

>>7283385
I feel you. It's scary as fuck. Mostly because I haven't even had a real self identity regardless because I like to fake my personality for different groups.

Here is constant thoughts in my head
>See cute girl, wish i could be cute girl
>See Transgirl who is cute and passes, wish I could pass eventually
>always liked female fashion more than male
>always liked makeup
>10/10 would push button to make me girl
>and a whole lot more!

And despite constant feelings I still don't fucking know.

My earliest memory of thinking i was a girl was 3rd grade but I don't remember how strong those feelings were.

Like, for some people starting HRT will make you feel A LOT better.. however it can also make you have even more dysphoria which just fucks up your brain.

>>7283385
Lol I'm just barely able at this point to dress in girl clothes and not dislike it. My ex would try to get me to dress in some of her clothes pre-HRT but I just couldn't, it just feels like crossdressing and cheapens everything. Pretty normal for it to feel weird, especially if it's your mom's clothing.

Like anon said, you should definitely not be listening to a general psychologist about this, and you should find a therapist that specializes in gender issues.

>>7283397
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you've never been in a relationship.

that's the opposite of initial surface level convenience, that's the shit that starts to cause issues as things go on.

>>7283404
oh wow

and i had faith in you :\

>>7283396
I'm not a schizo, I have ptsd because I've been diagnosed with it when my sister died. I have as much right to say what I want to say on here as anybody else. Just because I don't play nice to people who are constantly harassing me at all corners, yourself included, it doesn't mean I'm a bad person. It just means I'm a person who is reacting to the shittiness that is given to them. I really don't give a fuck what you look like, you shouldn't have attacked how appearance if you're unable to provide a comparison to begin with.

>>7283396
you should take pics now anyway, as part of a timeline you can put together later on

I want to play with CNT's girldew tipped girl cock

>tfw you are a transphobe and you have to interact politely with a tranny
the shit i do to avoid upsetting the apple cart

>>7283075

OMG! I literally can't even with you !

I mean I basically -b u i l t- this site from the ground up with Moot!

I give you guys daily fresh OC, funny cringe greentext, I dazzle you with dank memes and I always know when to use stale copypasta and somehow this is not enough for you.

The worst thing is like everybody is literally saying, who the fuck is Sass!

Please vote in mu strawpoll
http://www.strawpoll.me/10446676

>>7283156
Languages Sass speaks:

Love (awesome)
English (well)
Spanish (well)
Portuguese (sorta)
Italian (bad)
French (bad)
German (i wish)

>>7283386
Yeah i thought about that too, to get a therapist that specializes in trans issues.

But how do i do that tho? I have no idea who to contact or where to start.


Also i have to get this out of my chest

It feels like i walk like a girl.. with the hips.. or something.. Anyone who can relate? I had this conversation with my psyhologist, do i walk like a woman or not. She asked me, so how do yo walk? i answered, well i dont know, normally like everyone else? U see its hard to talk about these things because its so abstract and we never talk about these things ever.

>>7283411
Yay! U got released from the psych ward again!

>>7283379
Fayeposting is best posting :3

>>7283390
me and my gf never fight I just get pissy occasionally from what she does, we'd probably just double team you on the canopy bed and hook for you