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the ussr was state capitalism edition

• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

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shit thread

FUCK BORDIGA
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Lauren...
why
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>>7143878
Somebody post the Brad pasta.
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>>7143949
what
>>7143948
no
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Reposting in new thread

>transgirls want to be treated like normal girls
>transgirls don't like when they are treated like sexual objects by cis men
Can one of you explain this to me?
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>>7143945
but ur a girl bb I don't see u as anything else :( if u have a qt cis guy friend...
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>>7143954
Cyba is lovely.
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>>7143952
Well shite...

I just found out my biological dad works there... I'm considering a holiday to try and spy on him.

Still, I'm not sure I ever want to meet him. He seems... scary.

Honestly, I'd want to have a friend nearby.
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Awesome edition, good job Lauren.
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>>7143953
>being a communist
:(
>>7143951
but bro
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>tfw candy
semi-happy maeve
dysphoria strikes when i least expect it though.
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>>7143950
cis girls don't like being treated like sexual objects
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>>7143964
i thought you were #withher
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>>7143935
State capitalism is the most sensible economic system, though...
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>>7143956
Being chased is different from being treated as a sexual object in the same way as a cis woman.
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>>7143966
Hiya Maeve!
Get on discord!
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are you a failure if you're a tranny and end up dating another tranny instead of a cis person
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>>7143974
no
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>>7143954
Get a haircut hippy
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>>7143954
Time is working lovelies on your shitty bitchboy genes.
Grants
>>7143960
WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP SAYING THIS.
I'm a boy.
I'm a tumblr ftm.
I Dont wear bras or makeup.
I'm a boy, dammit.
I just have a sissy fetish
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>>7143972
Explain, i don't mean stalker tier behavior btw just average sexual interest
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>>7143966
>semi-happy
Some people just can't be pleased
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Id be fine being treated like a sexual object desu.

btw I have 4G in the fucking ocean, this shit is bananas
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Does crosdressing as a young child mess up your brain later on in life?
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I wish I was a boy again so I could come here and have pretty girls talk to me
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>>7143956
By "normal girl" I mean I don't want people to treat me like some kind of girl-like creature. I want to have the same deal as cis-girls in that regard, ie, they are instantly accepted as women.
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>>7143956
This, >>7143972

Women are treated like sexual object because they are women. Chasers treat us like sexual objects because we aren't women. We're an oddity and a fetish to them, not real human beings. They idolize a part of us that we hate.
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>>7143966
dysphoria is like the ninja of mental disorders
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>>7143986
Can't help you there I'm afraid, I'm a hideous AGP meme-master!
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>>7143985
nope, you were already messed up.
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>>7143988
I actually had a polite conversation with a chaser about this once. The way he described it is that he's attracted to us for being "something inbetween both genders", which, I think, is not how most of us would like to be seen.
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>>7143985
I dunno, I did it because it made me feel normal every time I did. I stole the fuck out of my cousins clothes when I was little. I hid them in an old hollowed out amp in my room.

Where did you hide your girl stuff mtfg?
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>>7143985
I often wonder if my interest in crossdressing and transexual porn when I was really young is what caused my dysphoria, or if it was merely me discovering something I had always felt.

Ultimately though, I have memories of wanting to be a girl for a long time before I ever discovered it was possible.
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>>7143980
Average sexual interest is not treating someone as a sex object.

Being seen as a sex object is like your personality and consciousness are just gatekeepers to your body. Guys saying whatever they can to gain access to your body is bullshit, it shows they only value you for your body.
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>>7143995
No, I wanna be seen as a woman.
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>>7144000
>Where did you hide your girl stuff mtfg?

Anywhere I could. Usually inside my mattress though, it was a spring one that had a zip at the top.

Right now though, it's on my shelf.
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>>7143995

I have mixed feelings on chasers. Fetishes are cool, you can't really choose which ones you have and don't have. idk I guess I just want to know if you're into me solely because of that.
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>>7143950
Is it that weird to not want to be seen as a sexual object outside the bedroom?
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>>7144000
I had a locked metal box meant for electronic equip.
Hid my pot there, too
After my mom found my panties in the dryer, I just stopped caring about where I put them
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>>7143974
No sometimes it's nice to have someone to relate to about important aspects of your identity; same reason why most people date inside their ethnic groups; especially minoroties

Look at all the tranny hookups here and you can see that
>>7143954
I wish I could help you pass
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>>7143988
So do mtf hate chasers because they are reminded of their own personal reality?
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>>7143969
well yeah, trump is the worst nominee in modern history

But regardless of all that the USSR was still state capitalism.
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>>7144007
>idk I guess I just want to know if you're into me solely because of that.
But that's always the case, people don't want their partner to like them only for their physical traits.
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>>7143962
<3
>>7143978
Never
>>7143974
If you want a cis person yes. There is nothing wrong with dating trannies tho
>>7143979
Thank you :-D
>>7143985
Nah it's just your brain being weird
>>7143986
Use boy pics and tell everyone you detransed. Takes a couple of months to convince everyone
>>7144001
The science suggests that they were an expression of your dysphoria rather than the cause
>>7144000
Inside my computer cases. No one ever looks in computers because they are afraid of breaking them
>>7144010
Despite my best efforts - I do.
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>>7143986
I'm living the dream senpai. /mtfg/ are my harem and shit
>>7143993
So in other words it's not natural for a child to crosdress at all or what?
>>7144000
Sounds familiar
>>7144001
This is exactly what I'm thinking. Maybe it caused a screw to come loose idk
>>7144015
Hillary is Stalin lite. Leftist authoritarianism. The reason why she wants to tax the rich and support illegal immigration, and outsource jobs to China is because she wants everyone poor.
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What's a suicide method that's sure to fail
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>>7143995
Pretty much. I'm all for the fetish, I like girls with dicks too, I'll never shame somebody for what gets them off. But there's a difference between fapping to an anime futanari and objectifying a real life trans girl.

There's plenty of non-op girls out there who might want to rape chaser bp though, so ganbare chaser-kun.

>>7144011
Pretty much. The only attractive feature of us to them is the fact that we aren't really girls, that's not exactly a very flattering thought.
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>>7144024
Slit your wrists horizontally?
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>>7144022
>Hillary
>leftist
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>>7144000
Hid mine under my bed, meh when it was found.

Now I have my full dresser and half the closet.
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>>7144000
I stole a bunch of my mom's clothes, and used to keep them in this old boardgame box in my closet. I never got caught.
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cute spooky ghosts to haunt /mtfg/
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>>7144024
Since you're a girl you'll fail anyways
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>>7143974
I prefer trannies
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Easiest way to see what the problem with chasers is is to go to the porn profiles of any post-op trans porn star. The comments are full of hateful remarks like "I hope her career dies", "I hope she dies", "She removed the only good thing about her", "Disgusting now she's just like every other girl", etc.

These are people who see trans women as anything more than an object to please their fetish.
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>>7144037
ahh you did me a fright!
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>>7144038
I'm not a girl tho
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>>7144032
>supports illegal immigration
>is a murderer
>willing to throw everyone under the bus for Islam

Sounds like a leftist to me desu
>>7144037
I'm a skeleton
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>>7144000
clever hiding spot
i just hid them between the matress and the bed frame
>>7143981
i'm an ungrateful tranny ;_;
>>7143990
it sucks
as soon as i woke up i just felt disgusting
looking in the mirror i didn't feel optimistic anymore :s
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>>7144008
It is in the mind of desperate incels.

>>7144011
No lmao, it's because they view us as a fetish and are generally terrible people with no depth.
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>tfw """straight""" guy
>attracted to traps and femboys
>mtfg hates you
Sometimes it isn't easy being a white male
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>>7144050
Listen you dumb broad if I hear anymore nonsense outta you I swear on me mum I'm gonna smooch fight ya.
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>>7144024
Overdose has the highest fail rate.
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>>7144055
unbiased opinion right here
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>>7144059
my boyfriend is a straight white male I don't hate you anon
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>>7144059
Just fap to and hang out with traps and femboys you dumb nigger. Why come to a trans circle we're not even what you're looking for.
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>>7144022
Regardless of if that's true, Trump is the worst candidate in modern history by far. There's just no way. Clinton would have to torture a child to death at a press conference before I'd vote for Trump.
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>>7144024
Please go to the psych ward :(
I don't want you to accidentally succeed.

>>7144019

For sure. I just want honesty. It wouldn't turn me off if someone was attracted to me because I'm a tranny, but it would if they like pretend to think I'm funny and pretend to agree with me on everything and all that dumb shit.

I guess, to me, though the word chaser implies that I'm just 3d fetish material. Like if you think trannies are hot that's dope, you do you. If you have some kind of identity based around fucking transgirls that's kinda weird imo.
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>>7144024
so i'm guessing you want a cry for help
you want your parents to understand how depressed you are?
you want proper help from psychologists?
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>>7144058
>and are generally terrible people with no depth.
You think it's fair to generalize a whole sexuality/fetish like that?
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>>7144072
Vote for neither
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>>7144044
>tfw we have a choice between fetish object or second-rate knock-off female
>>7144070
>nigger
wtf racist
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>>7144055
I'm a cute spooky ghost!
:D
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>>7144070
Eeeee longdva is long c:
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>>7144061
I'm sorry
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>>7144057
It's gonna be ok maeve.
It gets worse before it gets better.
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>>7144000
>Where did you hide your girl stuff mtfg?
In a closet in a different bedroom than mine.

>>7144022
Your desire to crossdress is a result of being transgender.

>>7144072
I still wouldn't be able to vote for trump.
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>>7144067
That's nice friendo
>>7144070
I like mtf too anon...
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>>7144073
I dunno...is that enough?
I'd feel awkward just going in
>>7144074
I guess
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hi
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>>7144059
mtfg doesn't hate us, they secretly crave our attention

"chaser" is just a hurtful word they use when they're feeling frustrated or depressed
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>>7144095
hi
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>>7144072
If the child deserved it though..

Little narcissistic fucks. I love them -.-
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>>7144095
hi *teleports behind u*
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>>7144099
hi
>>7144101
sup korra
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>>7144059
I literally know and chill with some traps and femboys, some of them may be trans but for the moment don't identify as such and totally embrace theselves. These are the people who you are looking for.

>>7144092
>I like mtf too anon...
You don't, you like shemales, futanari, dickgirls, and ladyboys. You don't like trans women. Trans women aren't what you think they are.
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>>7144065
Nothing I've said is wrong though.
>>7144074
Probably this
>>7144072
You are objectively wrong.

>be Hillary
>bombs Serbians, destabilise Libya, arm jihadists

>be Trump
>make a sexist comment

They are not even remotely the same. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, but there's no way he's the worst candidate. Hell just look how worse off the world is with obongo
>>7144081
Let's be spooky friends
>>7144089
;_; but I don't want to accept that
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>>7144094
If you want to get in badly enough that's you'd injure yourself then that's definitely enough
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>Be a chaser
>Act like a fucking creep
>Scare people off
>Complain about it
Why do men do this?
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now for the second question...

Why did you hide your girl clothes?
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>>7144104
what's going on in Pookie land?
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>>7144097
no no i definitely hate you and all other chasers.

ya bunch of fucking creeps
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>>7144044
I think that's just the type of chaser who would comment on a porn video. Porn stars are more objects than people to those who watch porn
>>7144050
U r
>>7144059
Leave now b4 it's too late. U don't want this life
>>7144072
Trump is the best candidate so far. Clinton is the worst. Does laughing over the fact that she got a child rapist off count?
>>7144097
True.
>>7144112
Fear of reprisal
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>>7144077
LOL

Not justifying that with a response. Get to know some and you'll see.

>>7144078
A vote for anyone else is half a vote for Trump, essentially, and I could never, ever live with that on my conscience. I live in Ohio, pretty much the most critical swing state along with Florida. My vote actually matters. I would vote third-party if I could, believe me.
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>>7144113
im going 2 socal tmrw
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Anyone else here wish FFS didn't exist so you wouldn't have to feel bad about not being able to afford it? I've been on hormones 9 months and the best I see in the mirror is a teen boy. This is suffering I wish I had just continued repressing.
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>>7144112
Christianity
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>>7144112
Parents wouldn't accept I was trans, they found them a few times, and asked accusatory questions.

I had to get better at hiding them...
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>>7144111
pre hrt I was a chaser but like once I started taking hormones I wanted to chase boy dicks instead. I fell for the memes :(
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>>7144112
'Cos otherwise people would find them, duh.
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>>7144118
idk, quid. There are a hell of a lot more chasers than you have met.
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>>7144116
>no no i definitely hate you and all other chasers.
you sound mean

i'm not creepy anyway, i only come here to shitpost and save pictures
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>>7144122
No, the outcome is exactly the same whether i can't afford it or it doesn't exist, although if it does exist it's available and other people can get it and be alleviated dysphoria.

That's some kayla-tier logic.
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>>7144122
Kind of
it's something to work towards though! if you really want it
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>participating in bourgeois elections
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>>7144120
i thought u already lived there. going visit family?
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>>7144118
I have to much anxiety to vote for anyone.
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>>7144129
What % of trannies are former chasers
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>>7144118
But you're against generalizing groups of people, right?

Why do you think this group is different, I don't think they share anything besides a common sexual interest.

fyi the "get to know some" argument is used a lot to fuel hate against certain groups
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>>7144107
>obongo
lmao

We can still be friends but I believe we're done talking about politics.

>>7144117
Does perpetuating that lie easily disproven with a single Google search make you feel more confident about trump winning, or something?

You know how being a defense lawyer works, right? She had no choice. Then, the "laughter" is total bullshit and at a completely different point in the conversation, as anyone who's actually listened to it unlike you would know. :P

I was pretty horrified by it at first too, but like most stuff Trump says it's a complete lie.
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>>7144117
does this look like a girl to you
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>>7144067
>Letting a disgusting white male pig fuck you
Lost all respect for you
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>>7144131
I am mean!!
and yeah saving pics here sounds pretty creepy.
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>>7144124
I don't even get that. Like didn't god make me how he made me?? He made me want to be a girl and now bad christians want me to shaft god and repress it?
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>>7144112
>Raised in middle Tennessee in a overly zealous Christian and republican household.

They prayed over me while anointing me with oil before committing me for an evaluation.

I had reasons. .-.
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>>7144112
not only did I not have any before moving out, but my parents would just think I was a fetishist. I'm still not sure how they feel about me being trans, but they asked really transphobic questions.
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>>7144097
I can understand the logic of mtfg hating chasers.
>>7144105
Well I am talking about sexual attraction, and mtf are definatly what I like in bed. Who is the seamen demon btw
>>7144117
I just want the fem peepee
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>>7144142
No lol
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>>7144133
Other people can afford it and look better than me woop de fuckin doo
>>7144134
It's like 20k USD, I'll never have that much money ever
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>>7144143
I dont like girls and I don't care for black guys so. ... . besides he's hella handsome
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>>7144152
exactly
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>>7144145
>and yeah saving pics here sounds pretty creepy.
i don't do anything creepy with them though, only masturbate and sometimes look at them when i'm lonely
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>>7144135
iknorite?
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>>7144158
>does this
>says he isn't creepy

wew lad
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>>7144129
Ok.

>>7144138
Rip

>>7144140
Because the very nature of the interest is a bad thing. Just fap to porn, or seek out trans girls specifically ok with it. It's like if somebody had a fetish for cancerous tumors or some shit.
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>>7144142
>does a picture of me in boymode look like a boy
now post girlmode snickers for comparison
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>>7144146
I'm just a heathen but my parents still don't know
>>7144149
Is it really trans phobic or just questions someone clueless about the subject would ask?
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What's the easiest way to suppress your appetite?

>>7144141
You know I'm right senpai. And yeah obongo makes me laugh when I hear it
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So I guess the general consensus is that our parents damaged the living fuck out of us.
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>>7144168
>What's the easiest way to suppress your appetite?
Coffee or tea - we used to give those out at homeless shelters to help keep hunger at bay
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>>7144169
well ye
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>>7144165
I don't have a girlmode
because I'm not a girl
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>>7144169
More than my absent father. He turned out to be a pretty cool dude.
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>>7144107
>;_; but I don't want to accept that
Took me a while to accept it too, I still am not sure I do. My case is weird because I accidentally stumbled upon tranny porn before I ever saw straight porn. My first exposure to a fully grown naked woman was one with a penis. For a while it was really weird because the concept seemed so natural to me, like if you asked me in casual conversation about "shemales" I'd have talked about it openly because I didn't understand it was an oddity. I was 10, I thought everyone found them hot.

That fucked me up because as things continued and I realized I wanted to be like that, and wasn't happy as a male, I convinced myself it was a fetish I got from early exposure to tranny porn.

But I realized that my desire to be female stretches way past anything to do with sex and I remember having these feelings since I was a toddler.

Either way it's such an overbearing feeling that has impeding my ability to do anything good with my life or find any sort of happiness, so no matter what caused it if I don't transition I'm probably going to kill myself at 30.
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>>7144158
Lmao

What the fuck else could you do with them? That's what creepy is. Only thing worse would be reposting them
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>>7144169
unsurprising
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>>7144164
>Just fap to porn, or seek out trans girls specifically ok with it.
Surely some do just that, though?

>It's like if somebody had a fetish for cancerous tumors or some shit.
That's an interesting thought that I haven't considered, kinda makes sense.
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>>7144168
lol I didn't even read any of your post cause I skimmed and caught that first

bye felicia
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>>7144158
you know I'm sure this proves you're a creep but i'm not sure if me consistently replying proves I secretly crave chaser attention.
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Mtfg how do you feel knowing i want to put my big man dick in your little boipussi?
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>>7144175
Heard that before.. from the very cuties in mtfg now.
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I'm gonna collect the dragonballs and revive Akaka who's with me
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>>7144107
being transgender isn't a choice. What you do now that you know is a choice.

>>7144112
>Why did you hide your girl clothes?
So my parents wouldn't see them.

>>7144117
>Does laughing over the fact that she got a child rapist off count?
You do realize that case was assigned to Clinton by the courts, and the prosecutor should have easily been able to counter her argument that got him off? The prosecutor was the one who dropped the ball on that case. There was another detail that made it a bad case, but I'm not remembering it. She was being a proper lawyer in doing all she could to defend the client. Personal feelings don't enter into being a good lawyer.
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>transition to become my own girlfriend
>perfect plan except she needed a boyfriend
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>>7144154
I always try not to be bitter about my jellyness. It only hurts yourself in the long run.
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>>7144179
reposting them is a little rude and against etiquette

i might be """""creepy"""", but it's important to respect unwritten social rules that govern civilised behaviour
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>>7144171
Thank you I'm going to make coffee right now
>>7144178
Yeah I know what you mean, especially the part about how it has impeded your ability to improve your life...

It pretty much explains why I've dropped out of absolutely everything and became a shut in, but it's still really hard to accept, especially if you're stubborn
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>>7144169
Not just my parents
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>>7144187
i have very little self-esteem so that's nice to hear
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>>7144188
well I still don't have a girlmode
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>>7144141
https://youtu.be/e2f13f2awK4
>>7144190
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSCzDykng4g

this song makes me feel sad
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>>7144166
It was stuff like, "are you sure you're not just gay?" I don't even know what she's asked my sister, but I'm glad she's at home to tell my mom exactly what's going on.
At this point, she's not really trying to convince me I'm wrong, but she's still saying shit like, "it's so hard" with the implied "are you sure you don't just wanna be a boy?"
So maybe a little bit of both.
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>>7144182
Like devotees for amputees or wheelchairs.
>>
We lie to ourselves like disillusioned fools
We believe we can challenge the hands of a God
No matter the science, the surgeons or tools
No closer we are, forever a fraud
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>>7144205
Just a concerned mother
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>>7144200
It'll be fun to watch the progression.
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>>7144169
My parents are very supportive. They even pay for my medical stuff.
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>>7144186
everyone likes attention, especially if they're lonely and isolated from others, which is what a lot of people in the mtfg seem to be
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>>7144175
>>7144200
you are a girl and I think your cute snick snicks
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>>7144192
>tfw can't convincingly be your own bf anymore
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>>7144175
U r a girl
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>>7144217
I come here for the attention of fellow trans girls though. Chasers are just an unwanted extra you get in every single trans place. It'd be less obnoxious if they could keep it to dating sites and be tasteful about it.
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>just finished the gig
>tired and sweaty and thirsty
>go to the bar to order a drink
>hold out money to pay for it
>barman says its ok
>no one else in the band got free drinks

Is this female privilege?
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>>7144212
Gott ist tot!
Become the Uberfrau!
The limit to your wishes is what you can and are willing to do to make them a reality. Even if you can't get exactly what you want.. who the fuck can? Get as close as possible, seize happiness and to hell with everything else.
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>>7144154
Never say never.

>>7144169
They didn't help, but they weren't the worst for me. I could have used better support from them.
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>>7144233
Yay basic is alive and privileged
>>
Tfw 'accidentally' sent nudes
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>>7144232
maybe you're right

still, it's not exactly a big problem here - it hardly ever comes up
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>go downstairs to make coffee
>start grinding pepper into a mug

I'm really out of it tonight and I didn't even drink that much, I think

>>7144190
But transitioning is a choice though
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>>7144233

Aww hell yeah girl
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>>7143985
If you're questioning whether you're TruTrans™ or just sexually attracted to the idea of being female, just consider the following.
>Imagine yourself watching TV, playing vidya, reading a book, eating, going for a walk, and generally doing non-sexual activities as a female. How does that make you feel?

Try to remove the sex from it and just imagine daily life as a woman. Like a real woman, not a sexed up fantasy. Look at pictures of girls you know that are pretty, but more "average." Girls wearing boyish/baggy clothes, with little makeup and causal hair styles. Imagine if you were them, picture yourself doing what they're doing. Try to think about your daily life as a girl like that.

Do you want that?
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why did sephora say TFW
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time to hide upstairs before my father comes home and scolds me for sleeping all day and missing class

>>7144221
Thanks
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>>7144233
it's cute privilege >///<
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>>7144233
idk, but congrats.
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>>7144214
overly so, in my opinion

but perhaps

I guess I'm just afraid she'll give up on me when I go fulltime. She's really uncomfortable with knowing what I'm buying and what meds I'm taking.
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>>7144244
If it's all caps and not lowercaps with a meme arrow then it's the normie version.
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>>7144233
>Gay friend starts grabbing things out of car and leaves light stuff for me
>Talks about home repair like I'm inept

Yes. It's weird still. I'm d.i.y.god.
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>>7144233
yes... Means your good looking too.
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>>7144241
>implying that after a certain point transition is really a choice anymore
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>>7144233
Yes you got a taste of pretty girl privilege :P
>>
>literally every other trans woman i've ever met likes the band Against Me
>i can't bring myself to care about it

I don't think I can relate to any of the things most trans women like.
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>>7144252

>last band practice the guys carried my bass amp out to the car for me while I was in the bathroom

granted it's more because I look hella scrawny than female but whatevs
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>>7144233
Yes
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>>7144252
whenever I'm out with my brother and dad they always give me the easy bitch jobs like steering something while they push it or directing trailer etc

they don't even know I'm a tranny I think they can just instinctively tell I'm a failed male
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>>7144243
Well it's really hard to imagine in my body. If I could look exactly like a cis women then I guess it would feel more natural to me than the life I'm living now, possibly, but as a tranny I'm not so sure.

So I'm not sure if I could answer that question
>>7144255
Wow that's a spooky picture you scared me
>>7144259
I've never even heard of that band tbqh. My music tastes are weird though
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>>7144241
Transitioning may not be a choice. Especially if one's dysphoria is really bad.
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I'll let you go if you can tell me which to start first: HRT or Electrolysis.
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Idk if I look like a girl or not because I see a manly man in mirror but other people treat me like a girl

https://unsee.
cc/nopamige/
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>>7144272
Hrt
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>>7144241
>But transitioning is a choice though
not really, once your mind is far gone enough it's do or die
>>7144245
don't be sad snicks.
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>>7143935
All systems of government are harmless. Ideas aren't living things and although they can be an influence on someone's actions they are not able to magically force anyone to do anything. No matter how good or bad an ideology may seem to someone what really matters is who's running it. You can create the perfect system and as long as assholes are in charge it's going to end up shitty. People need to stop blaming ideologies and start blaming people for their own actions
>>
>>7144136
visit friend!!!!
i live in norcal
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>>7144272
hrt is time sensitive, hair is not
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>>7144244
oh no.... i miss when no one i knew knew about 4chan :(
>>7144259
theyre eh
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>>7144273
>https://unsee.
>cc/nopamige/
i've seen a lot of girls in my time, and this definitely looks like a girl to me
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>>7144259
Against Me! is an okay band a lot of trans girls like them because they are fronted by a trans woman and they did that "Transgender Dysphoria Blues" album. Just be your self chaser-san and you'll eventually find a trans girl (unless yourself sucks then change it to be a better perosn)
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>>7144279
Have fun with isla
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>>7144272
HRT
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>>7144278
>All systems of government are harmless.
I suppose so, if the alternatives are things like ancap
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>>7144272
Do laser hair removal if you can
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>>7144285
I-I'm a trans girl myself, Anon, my issue is that lots of trans women like stuff that I don't relate to at all and it makes me feel out of place.
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>>7144273
>Idk if I look like a girl
You don't, you look like a woman.
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>>7144264
we were doing tasks around the house
and we had to move this heavy thing
but I couldn't get it off the ground so one of my sister's guy-friends had to do it instead.
I'm a bad son
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>>7144233
I'm so fucking proud of you
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>>7144291
>>7144272
laser isn't 100% effective, electrolysis is guaranteed to permanently kill the hairs. I'm starting this friday
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>>7144240
I think one's perspective of the size of the problem depends on whether it's their pictures getting saved, but i guess it's inevitable either way.
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>>7144285
Even before that, as a repressing male, some of her songs she did as a male singing from a female perspective oddly spoke to me

It's like super obvious now why
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>>7144273
U r qt
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>>7144272
Electrolysis in the meantime of waiting to start hrt
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>>7144267
Happy spook day
Also, thinking transitioning is a choice is the opinion of someone who hasn't reached breaking point yet. Why do you think old hons with no hope of ever passing do it anyways? After a certain point it's about choosing life.

>>7144272
Hrt.
Hair removal can be less effective when testosterone is still in the system
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>>7144233
And you think you dont pass....
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>>7144273
I see a grown ass woman
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>>7144237
Yes I am alive Idek why people thought I was dead

>>7144242
:D

>>7144256
Yaaasssss. I hope so. Otherwise he was gay and thought I was boifu material

>>7144259
I really hate the music. Laure Jane Grace seems p chill from interviews tho
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>>7144295
that's not that bad, I'm so weak now I need my little over 100 pound mother to lift heavy things for me
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>>7144297
I've heard some people do laser and then electrolysis, since the hair reduction laser gives you happens faster and makes electrolysis easier. Of course that means you need to be able to afford both.
>>
>>7144291
>>7144272
Oops do laser hair removal after you start hrt. Electrolysis is expensive and only necessary if you have dark skin or light hair
>>7144297
It is effective if you go to a good technician. Just don't go for bargain basement shops
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>>7144273
>I see a manly man in mirror
I have this problem too, people tell me I look fine but all I can see is a dude :/

And if people are treating you as a girl you more than likely look like a girl seeing past what you see in yourself can be really tough

>>7144292
Ohh that's fine if you don't relate to other trans girls that's okay, I haven't met any trans girls I've gotten along with irl that's why I come here

>>7144302
True, idk I just know a lot of trans people got into them after that album was released, and looking at the lyrics to their older stuff it's really obvious

>>7144312
hehe :D
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>no one came trick or treating

Oh well, more for me!
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>>7144287
>tfw riven knows everything
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>>7144272
HRT WITHOUT A DOUBT
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>>7144316
I've been going to the Leadenhall Skin Clinic for laser, got a good coupon for 3 sessions, after which I'll start having to pay full price. I thought this shit was supposed to hurt a lot but it really doesn't?
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>>7144296
What!!!!
Even the other girls in the band didn't

>>7144283
It's a trap

>>7144311
O-ooohh
That's... Something
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>>7144325
You just started a couple days ago, right? How's that going for ya?
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>>7144331
im really happy

its like a massive weight got off my shoulders
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>>7144326
If it doesn't hurt, you should ask them to turn up the power. I was crying when I went and I have a high pain tolerance
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>>7144336
I mean it hurts, but not that much? I'll ask the laser lady about it next session, she seems really chill.
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>>7144335
yeah that's how i felt
it's the best feel ^^
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>>7144341
you've been on it for like a month right?

have you seen any changes at all?
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I'm sad that Columbia isn't a real place :(
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>>7144316
>>7144315
I heard going full electrolysis is cheaper, my local place is suppose to have techs who have been doing this stuff for decades so it should be good
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>>7144235
Did you ever get FFS?
>>7144320
>ywn kiss Sirona
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>>7144348
Racist
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>>7143954
Wtf i love cyba now
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>>7144354
You never know...
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>>7144269
>>7144276
>>7144306
Yeah you're probably right...
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>>7144356
The American dream
Trump's dream
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>>7144360
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Hello. I'm seeking trans people to interview for a class project. The project is on the trans community, stereotypes, challenges, and culture. The interview would have about 20 questions. Would any of you like to help out? If you're interested, please email my throwaway at [email protected]. The interviews will not be shared with anyone without your permission.

I can interview you in any way that makes you comfortable. Like I could just do it through email, we could use a chat service, or skype. I just can't do it here because it'd spam the thread.
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Give me one good reason to not put nair on my butthole.
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how to flirt with a guy clearly into you? or rather how to get the courage to do it really since atm i can only do it when drunk
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>>7144322
The only good trait i have
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When I drove by the abortion clinic there was a little old lady protesting and waving at traffic, she met my glace so I returned her wave with an exaggerated middle finger and a nasty sneer.

What's the legality of throwing rotten fruit at such people? Ive always assumed not good.
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is there a name for the pseudo-political school of thought that humans are garbage and we should all die and the world would be better without us
because i think like maybe it's a branch of anarchy but idk
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>>7144259
Its cool that a transwoman is a lead singer in a popular band but she's a grown woman thats still an anarchist in 2016 lol
Burnt her birth certificate on stage for some reason. Btfo cissies
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>>7144287
who R U
thnx tho
smuganime.jpg
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I feel like I'm the only one who transitioned just to be a softer looking boy and have boobs
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>>7144371
It's perfectly legal if you don't get caught
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>>7144369
laught at his stupid jokes
casually touch his arms,shoulders
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>>7144374
it's the current year lol
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>>7144259
I like them, but not enough to go see a show.

Joan Jett was a early gender bender in songs. I know she wrote some songs based on real people, then changed the genders for the world. "Secret Love" is one of them. Other songs she sang unchanged despite gender meanings going queer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15KHmxHURQ
She's never said her orientation or gender affiliation publicly.

An earlier gender bender was Wayne County who transitioned late to become Jayne County. She has a bunch that touch on gender bender topics.
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>>7144372
That's called being a misanthrope
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>>7144346
breast buds
skin is smoother
pretty much it >_<
>>
She says it's what she does
That matters, not what's said to me
She says that she wants time
When every second is infinity
If what matters then is action
Then inaction gets distractions
What reaction were you hoping for?
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>>7144330
Chasers then, idk.
Cute ppl get free drinks.
Maybe he was a homo.
Idk.
But im proud.
Shut up
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>>7144365
way too ancap for trump's dream, but they got some things on point
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>>7144375
Someone with vast amounts of information and a lot of free time
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>>7144369
Lots of eye contact, smiling, tilt your head, when you laugh touch his arm, playfully suck his dick when he's not looking
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>>7144374
Her burning her birth certificate was one the most edgiest things I saw this year
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>>7144372
>is there a name for the pseudo-political school of thought that humans are garbage and we should all die and the world would be better without us
the green party
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>>7144171
Can attest. I get through random at-work munchies by having a lot of coffee. Belly full of hot coffee is no longer hungry.
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>>7144386
damm, nice!
what are you on?
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>>7144312
>otherwise he was gay

Yeah no, lol, not this
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>>7144392
To be honest, I'm enjoying this game more than the first 2.
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>>7144267
>I guess it would feel more natural to me than the life I'm living now, possibly
This is a big sign. Keep in mind nobody here wants to be a tranny, that's not the goal of a transition.

Think about it. Like I said try to disconnect it from sex and just think about your life up to now and how you express yourself on a daily basis. How much of that do you feel is restricted by the fact that you're not female?

Also, remember that cis men don't think about any of this and could without hesitation say they don't give a shit.
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>>7144377
Ugh, it makes me sick that we have feminists bitching about the most trivial of shit when pro-lifers are still walking around.
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>>7144398
>playfully suck his dick when he's not looking
IMPURE
>>7144405
2mg progynova, 100mg spiro
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>>7144414
Pro-lifers need to be gassed.
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>>7144358
Wtf i love cal now
>>7144371
That wouldn't be kind.
>>7144376
/femgen/
>>7144418
Anti-lifers need to be firebombed
>>7144414
>>
>>7144377
>>7143947
that sounds like a really good idea, creative outlets can be so therapeutic

late (you) cause i had to switch to phone and didn't see the old thred til i got back now
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>>7144402
>>7144384
>>7144372
It's called the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. It's a NGO whose motto is "May we live long and die out"
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>>7144398
Gf like this please

>>7144400
How will NC ever recover wew
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>>7144414
>it is the CURRENT YEAR and people with different opinions still exist
UGH
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>>7144415
>tfw unable to lovingly hug a penis with a vagina
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>>7144402
lmaoo

fuck jill stein

honestly it really disappoints me that third party candidates had a real shot this time round, and they both turned out to be completely useless jokes on closer inspection
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>>7144414
Thank Bible thumpers.
Pro lifers disgust me too

>>7144421
Yeah idk, I need something that doesn't involve drinking

>>7144424
People who think that a woman has no right to do what she wishes with her own body don't just have different opinions, they have wrong opinions.
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>>7144369
Avoid pansexuals ie the nerdy beta virgins
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>>7144394
but ur riven
:rage:
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>>7144409
>To be honest, I'm enjoying this game more than the first 2.
i enjoyed it more than 2, but less than 1

don't tell /v/ that btw, anyone who like Bioshock: Infinite gets shat on with an unholy fury
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>tfw one of those days...

>>7144354
No, I did have reconstructive surgery, and a couple touch up plastic surgeries to remove scars and fix errors in the reconstruction.
>>
>>7144420
>no qt right wing trans gf to gas lefties with
>>
>>7144430
ha, yeah, that would probably be good...

>>7144414
fallacy, darling

who gives a shit about pro-lifers when people are starving in africa
>>
>>7144429
b-but I like Jill Stein
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>>7144434
Coffee enema.
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>>7144435
>>no qt right wing trans gf to gas lefties with
BOLD CAL.

No being rude!
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>>7144414
desu I consider myself pro-life because I think abortions are disgusting and inhumane. But recognize the necessity of them because people are stupid and people who aren't capable of raising children still get knocked up frequently. Also, of course, people are still sick and barbaric enough to rape women. I want a world where there is no abortion, I hate the idea of potential lives being snuffed out of their chance at existence it makes me really sad. Like, that potential stream of consciousness will now never exist. That's fucking miserable. But the only way to remove abortion is to remove the need for it, and human are just not capable of that.

Of course people who condone acts of violence and murder on abortion doctors are literally just as bad.

I've always been very in the middle with my world views though. I consider myself more right wing in ideals, but generally a realist who understands a compromise will always have to be made.
>>
>>7144440
She's interesting, but not president material.
>>
>>7144398
i would maybe like to try suck his dick? thinking about it makes me nervous but also rly horny

>>7144431
hes like 6'5 and stoic and also looks like a more chiseled jason segel
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>>7144444
Holy shed.
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>>7144443
Nothing rude about making the world a better place
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>>7144448
Then go for it
>>
>>7144446
Well iiiiiiiiiii...disagree
>>
>>7144452
>Having disagreements over politics and world views in 2016
How dare you
>>
>>7144451
>TFW horny AF
>only critter nearby is my cat that keeps bitinge when I try pushing him away from cuddling
>phone is almost dead
I'm going to die here.
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>>7144442
Wouldn't work for me. To much caffeine causes problems and would knock me flat on my back.

>>7144453
It'll never go out of style. Get used to it.
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>>7144455
FUCK THE CAT
U
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C
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>>7144420
Protesting abortions is far more unkind, and far more selfish.

>>7144418
I fucking hate them so much, if you value the life of a fetus over that of a young woman you can go fuck yourself.

>>7144424
>It's the CURRENT YEAR and we still have people who think we should force women to go through a life alerting possibly fatal process to satisfy our egos and jesus.

>>7144430
They make me sick, its one of those issues that I get so angry about when Im around pro-lifers that I cant even speak or look at them.

>>7144439
Why the fuck should I give a fuck about Africans? If you aren't an American, or a citizen of a country allied to the United States, I don't give 2 shits about your welfare.
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>>7144444
nice fucking digits, man

i'm tentatively pro-choice, but i've never considered it particularly unreasonable that some people lean pro-life, especially if they're "soft" pro-lifers (i.e. abortion should not be allowed, except if the mother is in danger, she was raped, it's incest, the baby's gonna be a tard, etc.)
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>>7144455
>tfw can't cuddle with valq
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>>7144457
De-caffff
Idk.
Its a meme for me.
I've never done it but it sounds interesting.
I just Dont have the equipment
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>>7144452
I haven't really looked much into her but just the fact that she believes wifi is harmful based on one non peer reviewed study is reason enough to disregard her.
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>>7144458
He bites me when I move...
Like, he's all pissed off at my typing rn.
And cats can't hold me and make me warm in an envelope of arms
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>>7144463
Jesus christ, what's your malfunction?
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>>7144444
A fetus is not a human, it does not think and it does not feel, it is alive only in a biological sense. You should feel more guilt for killing a bug.

No woman wants to have an abortion, we're never gonna have women just having abortions because its fun. But it is necessary.
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>>7144462
>especially if they're "soft" pro-lifers (i.e. abortion should not be allowed, except if the mother is in danger, she was raped, it's incest, the baby's gonna be a tard, etc.)
Yeah, that's where I stand basically. I don't think you should freely be able to just abort a baby because you had careless unprotected sex and don't want a kid.

I wish people could just be more responsible.
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>>7144463
Apparently nobody can and I'm being held prisoner.
Phone is on 7%.
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>>7144371
My opinion is if you are pro life you better be 100% for free birth control for all males and females. If you aren't, then you need to get your priorities straight because unwanted pregnancies are seriously bad for way to many people.
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>>7144468
Are you the anon that dislikes me? Its that you Kryer, I'm so sorry
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>>7144243
Actually, a lot of times yes. Not constantly, but I think my brain has toyed with the idea of being trans/female since I was 14. I dunno if I would want to do it, though. Let alone need to do it.

The fact that over the years I've basically had to admit that I'm omni sexual or whatever (woman, guys, more than a few mtf, a couple ftm), and uts more complicated.
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>>7144432
And you're pookie
>>7144459
Good to be passionate about something
>>7144470
There is some women i know who would do it for fun
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>>7144478
That's an expensive hobby
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>>7144481
not if you get good at diy
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>>7144471
Birth control can fail even with the most careful users.
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>>7144478
>ywn be able to have an abortion for fun
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>>7144384
>>7144422
yeah that sounds like my deal
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>>7144429
I can't wait till Johnson attacks a reporter
>>7144430
You don't have to be religious to be pro life. I'm an atheist. I think a woman should be able to do what she wants with her own body as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. The only difference between your position and mine is whether or not the baby counts as a person.
>>7144435
Conservative trannies do exist. I know 20+. Most hide their politics because left wing trannies will demonize them.
>>7144450
Gassing lefties is the polite thing to do
>>7144459
Why? In their view it is murder.
The thing is, I value the life of the baby just as much as the mother.
It has nothing to do with egos or Jesus.
>>7144470
*in your opinion.
>>7144473
Why should I have to pay for someone else's lifestyle?
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>>7144430
I'm sorry i really didn't mean that to sound judgmental it was just a gut reaction i have a bad history with alcoholism ;_; ilu elanna

>>7144440
Here's the article that completely changed my mind on her. Very enlightening.

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/210549/friends-dont-let-friends-vote-for-jill-stein

>>7144459
oh ok, so you aren't serious about anything you're saying, good to know ^^

pro-lifers are shit though
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>>7144491
<3 I'm in love <3
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>>7144475
No and you should be sorry
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>>7144470
>A fetus is not a human
It otherwise would become one, it's a potential life and a potential stream of consciousness that has been snuffed out. It won't be reincarnated into the next baby who is born, that potential chance at life has been completely snuffed out.

Look, you must be able to recognize the tragedy of this right?

>>7144470
>No woman wants to have an abortion, we're never gonna have women just having abortions because its fun.
Never did I state or imply this.
>But it is necessary.
I said this repeatedly. You're just putting words in my mouth and arguing about stuff we agree on.

I don't have to like abortion to recognize it's necessity.

>>7144484
She should just be lonely virgins like me then. But I know. Again, I'm not saying I think abortion shouldn't exist. I'm just saying I wish we lived in a world where it didn't have to.

My ideals are idealistic, I recognize that compromises need to be made for them to be realistic.
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>>7144496
>it's a potential life
So is literally every one of the trillions of sperm spilled worldwide. Masturbation is a tragedy.
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>>7144501
why are kurisu's eyes so dead
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>>7144496
But the same goes for any stray spurt of ejaculate, and every period, and every miscarriage.

Nature performs billions of times more abortions than humans ever could.
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>>7144503
She's drawn
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>>7144496
every time a guy jerks off or a girl has her period potential lives are snuffed out
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>>7144491
You'll be paying much much more for their kids via welfare.
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>>7144501
this is triggering my GTS fetish
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>>7144494
Does illu keep annoying you
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>>7144505
well i mean yea that makes sense
but plenty of drawn characters look very lively.
i know animated things are not and never will be alive. you don't have to kill me inside anymore.
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How many here had some sort of change in their sexuality on hrt? Or should I say realization instead of change, dunno.
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>>7144506
Tragedy
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>>7144465
To be fair to her, I don't think she said it was definitively anything
or harmful in general, just that she thinks it is possible it could have negative effects on children and she would like to see more studies.
She seems to air on the side of as much information as possible, I am extremely doubtful she would hold onto that opinion if more studies came back with different findings.
It's also an unfair standard when Hilary said in 2008 vaccines might cause autism, and trump said it this year.
Something Jill Stein hadn't said, but is smeared like she has. She helped write a book on possible causes of autism and other developmental disabilities and vaccines wasn't even on the list.
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>>7144516
Trump has retracted the vaccines cause autism statement
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>>7144496
The will to reproduce is strong in most people. It operates at the subconscious level.
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>>7144504
>every miscarriage.
You think I don't see miscarriages as a tragedy? Fuck off, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>7144506
When you spunk in a girl she doesn't get pregnant a million times. Surely you see the difference between splooge in a napkin and a properly conceived fetus beginning it's development into a thinking breathing living thing.

I don't get why pro-choicers think being unsympathetic to the idea of abortions is a necessary part of supporting them.
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>>7144508
cyba is rich enough she doesn't have to pay taxes
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>>7144513
Idk but this is probably why she's my spirit animal.

>>7144511
Gts?
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>>7144434
Wait did FFS even exist back then? Feel sorry for the hons of that age.
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>tfw 36-37KG
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>>7144521
It's not a fetus. It's simply not.

And there's no need to become so insulting based on such a simple thing.

You realize how many miscarriages happen without anyone ever knowing they were pregnant to begin with? The majority of pregnancies end in miscarriage. I was simply pointing out the vast, vast number of natural abortions, far outnumbering manmade ones, even if we are only counting miscarriages.
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Happy Scaryween, girls! Post spooky voice clips!

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ee9BZLoiXE
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>>7144527
>tfw 90KG and 6'3
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>>7144521
>When you spunk in a girl she doesn't get pregnant a million times
yeah that's 999,999 lives snuffed out right there cumming should be illegal
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>>7144526
I knew a number that had it back then, and earlier. Leslie Townsend had it.
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>>7144520
>The will to reproduce is strong in most people.
It certainly is in this thread
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>>7144526
>implying ffs can fix stuff
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>>7144530
>tfw 5'2.9"
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https://youtu.be/fUspLVStPbk
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>>7144531
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>>7144534
i wish i could get pregnant and have a ton of kids, my mom instincts have rly woken up lately
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>>7144529
pretty gud voice strange story
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>>7144534
>tfw no bf to make love with
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>>7144528
So what? We can't do anything about miscarriages, I wish we could and I hope one day we can. But that's beyond out control.

What is wrong with wishing abortions weren't a necessity and finding them tragic? Why does that bother you so much?

If you actually don't think so then just keep not thinking so, why go after me about it?
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>>7144533
Is this her?
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/LeslieTownsend.html
Says she escorted to pay for it
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>>7144514
its more being able to feel comfy as a woman and not feeling like a gay man.
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>>7144548
this tbqh
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>>7144555
Shakira

>>7144557
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>>7144516
I agree that these people are old are may hold some beliefs that are unconventional, but if she's confident enough to voice that belief to multiple people, and she has, then it's a deal breaker.

There don't need to be more studies about this, we know enough about radio waves to know they are not harmful at the range that wifi works.

As for the other candidates, I am not saying they're any better on this regard.
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>>7144546

>pretty gud voice

r-really?
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>>7144558
Hi.
>>7144556
This
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>>7144557
i want cuddles and dick so much when did i become this straight
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>>7144492
Sorry I'm really not convinced out of it
Most of that had very little to do with policy substance or could just as well be used against her opponents
Clinton has back peddled many a time, and while I think it probably isn't the best time to chastise a foreign leader who has invited you to dinner or helpful to creating a dialogue, if it was Clinton would also be guilty of "white-washing" dictators and despots.

I agree with her much more when it comes to the issues and I would like to see the Green Party get to 5%

*shrug
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>>7144529
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0kCgFDCK86P
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>tfw someone fucks up your mood
well
i guess i better sleep
goodnight thread
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>>7144560
it is pretty raspy but imo yeah
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>>7144559
Oh, I'm sorry
I wasn't saying you were
just seems like an unfair disqualifier when it applies to the other candidates but no one says they are invalid, especially when it has not much to do with a specific policy
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>>7144569
;__;

N-night...

Are you going to be okay?
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>>7144556
But how can one be comfy as a woman when they don't look like one
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>>7144568
Pass
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>>7144519
Go a date with me? Please
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>>7144560
Not that anon, but it's alright. Better than mine. Maybe a little too breathy falsetto-ish? It sounded kind of flat in tone, like if you tried to go deeper it'd break. I'd be able to clock you instantly if I heard you without context.

It's good progress, I don't mean any insult by it just trying to be helpful. A good example to work towards is a Elanna, who I think has a near perfect voice. Listen to her >>7144568 in what I'm sure is a perfect example of a good female voice and not at all something silly.

Basically you still sound like you're trying to sound like a girl, instead of sounding like a girl without trying. Ya know?

Keep it up!
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>>7144568

That's pretty spooky!

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1J0nWXfgBcl

Also... any comments on the other clip I posted? I want to know what I need to work on.
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>tfw people don't know if you're a lesbian or needy gayboy

https://unsee.
cc/ramogitu/
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>>7144584
Sorry I can't leave my house
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>>7144568
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0kCgFDCK86P
funnily enough, that's what you'll eventually sound like if you don't quit the sin sticks
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>>7144588
>implying it's not obvious
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>>7144572

I don't think that's something I can fix, I've always had a raspy voice. :\

>>7144585

>It sounded kind of flat in tone, like if you tried to go deeper it'd break.

Not sure exactly what this means.

>Basically you still sound like you're trying to sound like a girl, instead of sounding like a girl without trying. Ya know?

Yeah, I think so too.

>Keep it up!

Thanks, I will. Been at it about a month so far, I know I have a lot of work ahead of me.
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Tfw dressed up as a male version of Gadget the mouse
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>>7144580
Well, I guess third party candidates' negative aspects will gain more traction than their positive, seen as the media is working for either of the two big parties.

But yeah, all I meant was that she lost my consideration based on that, though I am not for any of the other candidates either.
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>>7144588
I'm not saying I'm jealous but I'm jealous
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>>7144589
Skype date i mean
Let me buy u stuff
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>>7144588
looking at you makes me feel like a needy gayboy
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>>7144549
...but that describes basically everyone with a conscience.

that doesn't change the fact that they're, well, a necessary evil.

so what are you even trying to say if everyone agrees with you? just trying to paint pro-choicers as pro-abortionists?
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>>7144583
Ty :3

>>7144585
>in what I'm sure is a perfect example of a good female voice and not at all something silly.
[spoiler]like most of my voice recordings, it's just something silly[/spoiler]

>>7144587
I think your voice is honestly pretty damn good. The things that I'm noticing are sort of a strained raspiness which will probably go away if you dropped your pitch slightly, or tried to project your voice a bit more. Also, you're speaking a bit monotone, adding a bit more pitch variance might take it to the next level.

>>7144590
Do I have to ;~;
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>>7144599
im boarding the plane right now prepare to get bashed in like 5 hours
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>>7144604
I meant nerdy x.x

>>7144601
You shouldn't be

>>7144592
I don't think it is tho
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>>7144605
>that doesn't change the fact that they're, well, a necessary evil.
I literally have been saying this since my first post, why attack me on it?

>so what are you even trying to say if everyone agrees with you? just trying to paint pro-choicers as pro-abortionists?
What is wrong with you? Are you just looking to fight? I don't get it.
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>>7144610
If you look like a nerdy gayboy, then I would be ok with looking like a nerdy gayboy tbqh.
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>>7144603
how does anyone get this beta?
>>7144610
Have you seen me? You pass way better than me. It's extra crushing because your boymode started out more masculine than mine. I was kind of babyfaced that's why I thought I'd make it, I was wrong.
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>>7144609
But you don't know where I live
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night trannies ^^
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>>7144595
>Not sure exactly what this means.
Can't really find the words for it. Men are more monotone in general speech than women, a woman's tone of voice goes up and down more while she speaks. You sound like you raised your voice to a high level and just stay there.

My advice would be to lower your voice a little and find a point where you sound feminine and comfortable. Work on being able to stay at that sort of "mid-range" level and fluctuate up and down as you talk while still sounding feminine.

Right now you sound like you're just speaking as high as you can go and can't really naturally go up and down.

If that makes sense.
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>>7144610
>I meant nerdy x.x
oh, well you look a bit too stylish and confident to be "nerdy"
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>>7144607

>sort of a strained raspiness
Oh, I'm still getting over a cold and I recorded that after 40 minutes of focused voice training. So it's probably a little raspier than usual.

>more pitch variance

Got it. I'm still working on the fundamentals of muscle and breath control, but I'll make sure to practice that a lot when I get to it.
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>>7144529
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Bcrtejb786
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>>7144622
you think I'm going to like something like that stop me?
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>>7144623
goodnight, sertiicakes
>>
why isn't my reflection consistent >_<
>>7144623
sleep well sleepy sertii
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>>7144625

Yeah, I get what you mean now. It's probably more of a resonance issue than a pitch issue because that's not much higher than my regular speaking voice. Thank you for your advice!
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>>7144610
I don't think HRT works on dark-skinned people ;_;
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>>7144605
>so what are you even trying to say if everyone agrees with you?
Are anons not allowed to make statements even if people agree with them?
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>>7144636
Doesn't work on some white people also
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>>7144635
>It's probably more of a resonance issue than a pitch issue
Hey you probably know more than me, my voice is terrible. My regular speaking voice sounds like a tuba.
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>>7144640
They definitely don't work on me.
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>>7144644
The pain
>>
>quid trying to fight anons again
girl you need to calm down
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>>7144619
I cant get girls ;_;
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>>7144640
Fucking meme pills, I'm so upset right now.
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>>7144629

MAXIMUM SPOOK
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>>7144650
I can tell.
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>>7144652
Don't worry Shakira
We can build a nation of hons
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>>7144650
You could try MOVING TO THEIR DAMN COUNTRY.
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>>7144629
Will you give me your hand in marriage thou fair maiden?
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>>7144650
Eh, don't be so desperate kid.
I got gfs by just trying to act relatively sweet and normal i guess

you'll get a gf in time.
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>>7144600
I'd just like the third party voices to be heard more on the state and national level, voting for her in the general does that and I agree with her by far the most
>legalize marijuana
>decriminalize drugs, treat as health problem, end drug war
>universal healthcare
>tuition free higher education
>wants 100% renewable energy by 2030
something I think is unattainable, but we definitely need someone who is going to be bold like that
>anti-war foreign policy committed to peace and diplomacy and upholding international law
>ceasing the use of the drone-assassination program
>raise the minimum wage and other policies to assist the poor
>money out of politics and clean elections
>breaking up the big banks
Stuff like that
>>
i love my gfs
i hope trump wins
that'll make kat really happy
only 8 days now :)
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>>7144658
How do you learn to accept being a hon?
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>>7144650
>I cant get girls ;_;
meh, i feel ya, buddy

going turbo beta won't help though
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>>7144666
I wonder if writing a nice letter to trump would get you immigration rights...
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>>7144659
....mfw I put on my dress I wear for lounging.
>ftm neighbor just pulled up, see him staring through window I forgot was uncovered; smile at him
WELP
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>>7144661
I act sweet but still girls dont like me

>>7144668
I wish I didnt have to :(
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>>7144676
carol's gotta be on the right of that wall when it goes up
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>>7144684
sweet != desperate
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>>7144660
yea sure just let me live with you
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>>7144680
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

>>7144685
I get the feeling that writing to the man in charge himself, and making a publicity case out of it might get you over the wall...

>>7144689
Am I sweet? :3
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Can I be a girl now?
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>>7144693
easier said than done
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>>7144692
Yeah :3
>>
Should I buy HRT in order to become a qt or a 4chan Pass in order to maximize my potential as an /mtfg/ trip.
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>>7144696
Wooooooo!

Sweeeeet!

>>7144698
Meme pills are the better choice.
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>>7144689
am i sometimes sweet?
>>7144684
see >>7144689
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>>7144693
>>7144698
Sure why not?
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>>7144555
Yes, and yep. We're also related, but it is many generations back.

>tfw you know where the signs captcha showed you are.
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>>7144692
>Am I sweet? :3
you're just lonely and horny
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>>7144478
>tfw ull never 1v1 riven only...
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>>7144689
:/ yeah im awful
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>>7144698
you're making him stronger
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>>7144698
4chan pass
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>>7144698
don't for his tricks

you can still be a cool trip while only being able to make 1 post a minute
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>>7144692
Idk of he saw my tots or not. Maybe just me staring into he mirror and grimacing
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FU, Google
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>>7144711
But then I won't be able to reply to myself enough to keep up with trips who have passes.
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>>7144713
Which one do you want?
B)
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>>7144667
Don't be one and just be a boy like me
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>>7144714
>>
halloweens about to start and i have nothing to wear and no party to go to.
life doesnt get better as a girl.
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>>7144698
I don't have a 4chan pass and I'm already a famous trip
>>7144703
>Yes, and yep
Guess I better do that too if I'm ever to be pretty
>We're also related
I'm getting more and more circumstantial evidence that transgenderism is hereditary
>tfw you know where the signs captcha showed you are.
Lol has happened to me twice. It's creepy.
>>7144714
Don't use codeine
t. Someone who tried to overdose on codeine
>>7144720
I'm seriously considering taking the pills but staying a boy forever. Only problem is the boobs.
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>>7144698
just buy hrt
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>you will NEVER be Japanese

y live
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So should I start on cypro and progy like some people were saying last night? What dosages?
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>>7144706
See what you're doing right now?
Don't do that
If you want to be alpha, don't self deprecate yourself, and don't try and schmooze every girl that pays attention to you. Be your own person and approach them as human beings not some mythical creature.

>>7144701
Yeah definitely
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>>7144612
uhh, that's what i'm asking you. are you just looking to fight?

why on earth would you try and call pro-choice people pro-abortion? that's pretty shitty

>>7144638
Well, it doesn't make sense to argue about it like people disagree, and continue to go on about it. That's all.
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>>7144714
Snicks, admit yourself. Don't OD. Hell, it wouldn't even work. Just admit yourself and stay safe.
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>>7144721
Hiya!!!
I got cute socks!
How are you???

>>7144723
>i have nothing to wear and no party to go to.
I'll drink to you!
Go find a bar, and laugh at the other idiots in costume

SKOLL!
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HAHAHAH MY FUCKING DOGE LOST HIS V-CARD
>Come back from walk
>Meet asian lady with some Boulonka dogs, dunno how to spell but theyre small and fluffy
>Hes been seeing em a lot before and always tryna hump the girl even when her legs broken (hes not castrated)
>He tries to hump her in elevator
>BAD DOG, BAD
>Lady: Oh no its fine shes not in a heat, if she lets him its fine
>Aight then
>Watch my dog lose his virginity and nail the neighbor girl
Attaboy lol, going to sleep now, best walk of his fucking life, I made him go in the rain when he didnt want to and it timed up perfectly for him to score, he owes me for that shit.
>>
>>7144723
But you're on mtfg! The constant party!
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>>7144723
I'm going to put a bowl out and just go to bed I think
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>>7144714
well, i suppose that's kinder than having nooses and vitamin pills appear in recommended ads for you
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>>7144723
Same :( I regret not making a costume this year
>>
>>7144729
:)
thanks Elanna
you're nice <3
>>
>>7144721
>>7144724
I just want the least effective method possible
enough to send me to the hospital but not die
>>
>>7144733
How does it feel that he beat you to it?
>>
Man, I always forget how depressing /lgbt/ and this general in particular are...
>>
>>7144740
C'mon that's attention seeking faggotry. Just do it.
>>
>>7144740
Jesus Christ what is wrong with me
>>
>>7144740
drinking bleach will be very painful but it probably won't kill you

but you should find a better way to get help I think
>>
>>7144745
what the fuck?
>>7144740
Look snicks, just go to a local hospital and admit yourself. You clearly need help.
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>>7144733
>even dogs are having sex
>you're still a virgin
>>
>>7144740
Checking into a psych ward is enough of a cry for help desu

Please don't risk your life :(
>>
>>7144734
with these spooky skellingtons dancing about it definitely feels like one
>>
>>7144730
>uhh, that's what i'm asking you. are you just looking to fight?
My initial point from the beginning was that I recognize abortion as a necessary evil but wish it didn't have to exist. You started attacking me and trying to explain how I'm wrong for thinking it's tragic.

>why on earth would you try and call pro-choice people pro-abortion?
I wasn't even remotely trying to imply that until you started trying to tell me I'm wrong for finding abortions tragic.

I honestly don't understand why you're fighting me on this.
>>
>>7144740
why are you sad snicks? I don't like snicks being sad
>>7144732
I won't know about the response from endo till tomorrow, scheduled electrology, got my frilly cloths but no energy to go though the effort of going girl mode right now. how are you doing?
>>
>>7144748
>drinking bleach will be very painful but it probably won't kill you
i don't think that's a good idea, anon

if you drink bleach, you will ruin your stomach and throat, maybe permanently

also, bleach does not taste nice
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Hey
How are you all
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>>7144724
If I can do boy mode, then you can do boy mode
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>>7144749
>not being pro-suicide
Look at all our wretched lives, do you really think it's humane to let us continue living?
>>
>>7144738
I have one, didn't put it on because lazy.
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>>7144733
do you want to wear a maid costume and have your dog breed you?
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>>7144745
sigh...I know...I just need help
I don't know what to do.
Seeing one of those special therapist would probably help...and also give me an excuse for my parents as to why I am such a failure besides just being a failure
>>
>>7144759
lmao my boymode is impeccable that's a fucking grill mode
>>
hello today is my birthday
>>
>>7144759
Which one is supposed to be boy mode they both look like girls lmao, why do you keep posting this
>>
>>7144760
my life was shit, now it's better

this happens
>>
>>7144766
oh shit it is?
>>
>>7144727
I got to experience Japan as a ""cis"" guy right before I started hrt. I was pretty 上手 at the 日本語s too, but I gave up on it because they don't like fags there
>>
>>7144766
wasnt youare birhtday last week
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>>7144756
Sorta okay. I'm a little drunk, but cute socks mean today is a good day...
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>>7144766
happy birthday ^^
>>7144758
dysphoric!!!!!!!!!!
how're you hanna
>>
>>7144729
I've never been good with girls
I just want to be a good bf to someone.. :/ j
>>
>>7144757
>also, bleach does not taste nice
A lot of things "don't taste nice". Maybe you can mix it with something to make it more tolerable. Ginger beer might be potent enough.

Hell, make a whole bleach mule cocktail. Go out in fucking style.
>>
>>7144742
Well if you seen my dog, hes like a 10/10 in the dogo world, that aint a fair comparison. And maybe id just rather appear a virgin than be probed for answers into a very pathetic sex life.

Nite slags
>>
>ywn fail boymode
>>
>>7144769
no that was last week

>>7144771
no its today

>>7144773
thank!
>>
>>7144755
ok, not this silly stuff again (i mean i'm sure you're not the same person but it gets kind of tired)

pointing out why somebody is wrong is not attacking them, if you actually think that then you're right, there really is no point in continuing this, bye
>>
>>7144766
Happy birthday! :D
>>
>>7144758
hanna, tell us the secret to getting your life back on track

and also, whether you prefer pizza or chinese food
>>
>>7144698
HRT, obviously. E-Fame means nothing.
>>
>>7144771
Nope. that was me, on friday.
>>7144766
Happy birthday! have a good one!
>>
>>7144760
Yes, because despite previous crap I am now a bigger person than that. I have gfs I love and so help me God I'm not gonna end it now.
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>>7144764
>I just need help
What I realized is that nobody cares about me so crying for help is pointless. Best to just pull the trigger.
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Good morning, /mtfg/
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>>7144764
Go. Get help for depression you faggot. Make an appointment, now.
>>
>>7144758
179cm

>>7144761
Why not is it complicated? Costumes are fun!!
>>
>>7144756
I'm sorry
I'm weak
I fail at everything
transition, school, work
I just feel depressed and unmotivated most days
*hugg eva
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>>7144766
>birthday on halloween
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>>7144698
HRT. 4chan is unimportant for your life.

>>7144724
I'm sure it has some genetics to it, but likely roundabout.
Captcha showed me some signs in NH near where I used to live. I've had a couple other ones I thought I knew too. One was in France. This one was a 100% positive I knew it. It even had the current shopping center behind them.

>>7144746
>Crying for help!!!!
*hugs*

>>7144766
Happy b-day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>7144780
So you're saying I'm wrong for finding abortions tragic? What the fuck? Honestly?

That's literally what you're fighting me on?
>>
>>7144765
>>7144767
>thinking that's girl mode
This crazy hugbox
>>
Why didn't you girls tell me tinder is a fucking travesty now? Holy shit what a retarded app now.

>tfw match with a slutty 19 year old pansexual who claims "doesn't want to get laid". Okay you shallow sluts.
>>
>>7144788
Heyyyy
I hope your halloween is going well
I like you Emily
<3
>>7144787
See a therapist.
>>
>>7144799
You should see my "girl mode" lmao
>>
>>7144773
Same here
Hugg Maeve
>>7144782
If i knew i whould have gotten my life back in order a long time ago
Also chinese food (real chinese food)
>>
>>7144799
No, seriously, which is supposed to be the 'boy'? A neither of them are even wearing masculine clothes.
>>
>>7144791
Lol nah we just have a couple in the house. Was going to do 50's housewife/wonderwoman. My son's costume was more important this year
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>>7144788
>when it's already november in australia but you're still enjoying the prime hours of halloween
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>>7144718
I Dont b/c ftms are bros to me.
>>
>>7144787
It's not that people don't care about you, it's that they can't help

I would be pretty sad if you killed yourself
>>
>>7144799
prepare to get bashed im in the air now
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>>7144801
Halloween is finished for me senpai.
Now it's time to bet on the horses.
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>>7144780
are people like never allowed to disagree with you?
>>
>>7144807
*sigh*

I miss my half siblings...
>>
>>7144806
Yeah but I bet you didn't get a 4 day weekend.
>>
>>7144819
>>7144819
>>7144819
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>>7144774
C'mon bro you just have to talk with them, project confidence and not give off the scent of desperation. Also the "be a good bf to someone" makes me feel like you're putting girls on a pedestal and feeling like you want to "be something" for them is just weird. People date for companionship, warm fuzzy feels and so that they can bone.

God damn I feel weird giving advice on how to man up.
>>
>>7144789
My parents will just think I am weak and pathetic, or it's not as serious as I'm making it.
At least attempting suicide requires some bravery, it shows I'm serious and id be forced into a ward instead of admitting myself
>>
>>7144800
what kind of woman talks like this
>>
>>7144787
My new shrink thinks I have schizophrenia. I told her "that's a meme just stop". My uncle shot himself. My aunt is psychotic schizophrenia. My mother's side mom cancer, but also psychotic.

Top level memesters in the hospital gave me Zyprexa and haldol and attivan. Absolutely a joke. Health care was a meme.
>>
>>7144805
Ahh gotcha
>>
>>7144810
Oh.
Was halloween good?
Hows you?
>>7144811
:)
>>
>>7144823
Fuck what your parents think if that's the case. Or at least get a doctor to agree with you.
>>
>>7144815
idk, I've disagreed with Quid and she didn't attack me so to speak.

>>7144827
It was okay, my cousin had a going away party cuz she's moving to the USA.
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>>7144824
The fat ones.
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>>7144820
i'll get you back for this, mark my words
>>
>>7144802
Post it

>>7144804
On the right
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>>7144822
>getting advice about how to be a man from a man who literally sissified himself into a girl

alternative point: you're able to give more well-rounded advice since you've sat on both sides of that couch
>>
>>7144800
ayy i went on a tinder date the other day, it ended with the dude pushing me down into the street and screamin at me a bunch. dats crazy huh?!
>>
>>7144834
<3
>>
>>7144797
nope of course not

>>7144815
I love to debate with people who can actually take it seriously and not start getting butthurt just because I actually refute some of their points and they can't stand it.

Like, if you actually pay attention, I have very polite debates with people on here that are mature enough to handle it. I actually love proper reasonable debates, it's why I end up getting trapped in so many turn-out-to-be-unreasonable ones :P
>>
>>7144839
sounds sexy
>>
>>7144829
But then they'll just continue thinking of me as a failure
>>
>>7144836
>boymode
>girl shirt, hair, sunglasses, pants, and fucking boobs
>>
>>7144839
that doesn't sound nice
>>
>>7144724
>I'm seriously considering taking the pills but staying a boy forever. Only problem is the boobs.
It's shit, isn't it? I'm jokingly considering switching to the femgen raloxifene. I like the effects I'm getting from hrt but I'm pretty sure it won't be enough. A femboy life would be a decent half measure. I'm okay being stuck in the middle.

The boobs are going to "give me away" eventually though. I had a few mechanics give my chest amused looks. I pretty much can't wear a t-shirt by itself anymore which kind of sucks but means I'm forced to wear layers which I guess is good because it looks nicer.
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>>7144793
>>7144823
You just gotta keep trying, you can't give up completely. I leave the house maybe 2-3 times a month only for appointments, I failed school and work completely myself and I'm going to keep trying too. Just go see a doctor and tell them your suicidal, you don't have to actually attempt it. They will help you so please call out for help
>>
>>7144845
If your parents think of you as a failure right now not a damn thing will change. If you get a degree it'll become "why don't you have two/a doctorate?"
>>
>>7144822
I've been rejected by girls all my life so I've lost a lot of confidence in myself. I'm an ugly manlet though; had very little confidence to begin with.
I'm a pathetic man, I'm terrible at it..
>>
>>7144846
>girl shirt
It's actually a guy's

>pants
Boys wear skinny jeans

>hair
Boys can have lost hair

>boobs
What boobs?
>>
>>7144842
>nope of course not
Then what is your point? Honestly? Right from the beginning the only point I have made was this:
1.) I think abortions are a necessary evil.
2.) I find abortions very sad and tragic.
And yet you're trying to argue and saying shit now like "I can't stand that you refute my points" and "I'm not mature enough to handle it" and "I'm unreasonable."

You're trying to start fights with me despite me completely agreeing with you, apparently.

Like, this was my original post >>7144444 and nothing I've said deviates from it.

You're just coming off as confrontational and looking for a fight.
>>
>>7144856
sigh...I guess
>>
>>7144815
And I'm absolutely not always right. I would be pretty stupid to say otherwise.

Usually on here I'm right because I don't challenge someone unless I've read up on the subject and I'm fairly confident in my knowledge, but that's certainly not always by any means, and especially with the progesterone now I've been more moody, which doesn't affect whether I'm right or not but it does affect the quality of the discussion to be sure.
>>
>>7144808
>I would be pretty sad if you killed yourself
Why? I'm an ugly loser
>>7144825
There is definetly something wrong with you yeah. Your posts are very incoherent
>>
>>7144839
Sounds average to be honest.
>>
>>7144867
I actually just think you're one of the drunks here. But I've held that belief since I showed up here rambling 8 months ago.
>>
>>7144867
you should stay alive just to spite people

think of how many people here get pissed off by you and how many butthurt you've caused

let hate keep you alive
>>
>>7144861
>It's actually a guy's
I don't believe you.
>Boys wear skinny jeans
The fabric looks more like it's from a girl's pair of pants.
>Boys can have lost hair
Yours is styled in a girly way.
>What boobs?
You're the one driving, yeah? The ones that are clearly visible.
>>
>>7144862
I'm sorry I came off that way.

I was just responding to what you were specifically calling a tragedy, the snuffing out of potential, which is something I've often thought on. I was simply mentioning how, given it's not a fetus and it's an embryo with zero brain activity or distinguishable features whatsoever yet, it's the exact same thing logistically as any of the examples I gave.

If it's aborted when it's a fetus, that's different of course, but my main point was just that ejaculation is morally equivalent to aborting millions of embryos in my opinion, that's all.

This is of course quite subjective, but that's all I was trying to say.
>>
>>7144852
it wasn't

>>7144843
ti wasn't

>>7144869
it wasnt
>>
>>7144863
all doctors will take you seriously if you ask them for help, they will admit you even if you ask them and tell them it's necessary for safety.
>>
>>7144854
> I'm jokingly considering switching to the femgen raloxifene. I like the effects I'm getting from hrt but I'm pretty sure it won't be enough
Yep same here. Only thing is I guess that decision is permanent because it will stop boob growth during crucial stages of HRT. I love my small boobs, I couldn't do it, I'd just have to be a dude with tits. Fuck it.
>A femboy life would be a decent half measure. I'm okay being stuck in the middle.
I'm not I hate it
>I pretty much can't wear a t-shirt by itself anymore
Same
>>
>>7144874
But I'm tee-total Sarah.
>>7144876
Lol
I'll think about that
>>
>>7144880
I know plenty of guys with the same hair style

Besides my face is very strong and masculine
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>>7144839
*hugs* Jerks like that suck.
>>
>>7144881
>If it's aborted when it's a fetus, that's different of course
Okay? But before you that's literally what people were saying, >>7144470

And the sperm thing is dumb, at most a single splooge is the equivalent of aborting one embryo. Spunking in a girl instead of a napkin doesn't get her pregnant with a million babies.

>This is of course quite subjective
Not subjective enough for you to insult me by calling me immature, and act like I'm factually wrong for having emotions about something.
>>
>>7144906
As strong and masculine as a lace bra.
>>
>>7144910
But each sperm had the potential. "Spunking" in a girl could get her pregnant with x amount of babies, and the rest are basically abortions.

However, I do agree that, with the exception of late-term abortions, fetuses should be legal to abort. I just find it much more morally unfortunate than I do your standard typical abortion where there isn't even anything there.
>>
>>
>>7144913
Ok this hug box needs to stop
>>
>>7144910
The only thing I was calling immature was your reaction.

And you did say that pro-choice people were pro-abortion, that was the main thing I had an issue with.
>>
>>7144928
lmaoooo you can't seriously think that's a boymode?

like that's just straight up delusional, if that's your best shot you don't have the ability to do boymode anymore

I was POSITIVE you were the girl on the left
>>
>>7144931
>And you did say that pro-choice people were pro-abortion.
Except I never said this, I was specifically calling out you for trying to "prove me wrong" for not liking abortions.
>>
>>7144909
I-is that you Syndie?
>>7144938
Angie is delusional, more at 11
>>
>>7144941
>>every miscarriage.
>You think I don't see miscarriages as a tragedy? Fuck off, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>I don't get why pro-choicers think being unsympathetic to the idea of abortions is a necessary part of supporting them.

those

can we just like finish this conversation or something?
>>
>>7144945
oh for FUCK'S sake, I didn't realize this was angie lmao
>>
>>7144950
That's exactly what you and others were doing when I said I was sympathetic to abortions though, trying to prove me wrong.
>>
>>7144957
i honestly just have no clue what you're saying anymore. maybe i mixed your replies up with another anon's replies. i'm pretty tired.
>>
Anyway I better get going, i'll be back in maybe 40 minutes y'all

don't nobody panic or anything
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>>7144958
All I've ever been saying is that I think abortions are necessary but wish that they weren't because I find them tragic.

Then you started arguing with me about that for some reason, like that is a horrible stance to take. And implying I shouldn't find miscarriages tragic either which was personally insulting.
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>>7144938
>>7144945
>>7144953
4chan thinks I'm delusional
>>
>>7144889
>I'm not I hate it
I guess the difference between us is I've kind of distanced myself from the "condition". I "know" I'm not a girl but I can't think of a better way to treat gender dysphoria that's been apparent for over a decade. And the main issue isn't how others perceive me (although it did work me into tears just last week) but needing to look female for myself. And maybe just a femmy guy would be fine. Hell, I'm vain enough FFS is still looking like an eventuality unless a miracle happens to crater me and yet I still don't know if and how I'll deal with the social repercussions. I just don't want to bother anyone with it.

I think I went through the stages of grief somehow and have reached some kind of mentally broken but fully functional state of mind. And when things are fucked I'm able to walk back through them relatively quickly because I've done it so much.
>>
>>7144972
Social butterfly who owns her own business and happens to spend time on 4chan thinks you're delusional, actually.
>>
>>7144945
I never post images of myself.
>>
Where is the new bread?
>>
>>7145081
I don't know why nobody linked it

Here: >>7144819

>>7144819

>>7144819

>>7144819
>>
>>7145086
As always helpful thx
>>
>>7145086
Somebody did,
>>7144821
>>7144821

Get over yourself.
>>
>>7145129
Wtf is wrong with you? I didn't see it obviously, Lauren is a good friend.
>>
>>7145138
c:
>>
>>7145138
Then why call Lauren a nobody?
>>
>>7145141
<3

>>7145158
Dohoho.
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Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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