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• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
old thread >>7115301
ᵗᶠʷ ᶰᵒ ᵇᶠ
>>7116270
Hiii friends
>>7116270
>(reposting because old thread is old)
>coming to terms with the fact that I might be a lesbian
>my dating pool is now "lesbian women who are willing to date trans women"
Feels like the odds are against me. Sad times.
How's mtfg today?
how is everyone
>>7116283
I'm a failure of a woman and don't deserve to live.
>>7116275
hi wanna be my gf
>>7116282
castigated
I didn't get that pizza for lunch. Day 4 of nothing to eat. I think i gave myself an eating disorder
>>7116283
Eh, I am ok
>>7116295
now show me your butt!
>>7116293
How is your mutilated sister?
>>7116295
I like to paint insects.
>>7116241
He was really disoriented when I first let him out, normally my intruders run for cover as soon as they're free, he just stumbled around. I hope I didn't get him too high...
>>7116257
Hopefully he'll learn to avoid cats in the future, but I guess that's easier said than done.
>>7116298
>ywn turn chara gay
honestly,
i was debating whether or not i should keep myself off the skittles as punishment.
but i couldn't do that.
that's going too far
>>7116243
Yep, I have sleep problems, but from restless legs. I have a drug I take to calm them down. Funny, but it is a precursor chemical to dopamine. One of the chemicals adenosylcobalamin helps make. o.O
I also have sleep apnea, but I can easily control it by sleeping on my side.
Show your friend this site. This is the protocol I just found and am trying soon.
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/active-b12-protocol-basics.10138/
I have much to learn about it. Hopefully I have some good lucid days where I can do some deep thinking. Those days are getting rarer as I get worse. The migraines I get from thinking to hard really suck.
>>7116249
Opps, I'd just say it was a gift.
>>7116298
She's awake and out of surgery. Is it bad that seeing her lose her looks makes me feel better about myself?
>>7116300
Snick snick! I replied in last thread, don't know if you saw it!
Tfw u put ur tail in and feel like a good pup :)
>>7116283
Tired because I'm up early for work again yay~
>kill me
But after today I get 2 days off and on Friday I'm taking my sister and her friends to London MCM so that's pretty hype.
>>7116292
How come?
>>7116301
Yea mine has shifted a lot too. At this moment in time though it's in a state where I can't tell if my remaining attraction to guys is genuine or if it's a coping mechanism for the fact that there are more straight / bi guys who would date a trans woman then there are lesbian women who would do the same.
>>7116310
Yeah but im like apathetic to eating now
>>7116304
What do you need to punish yourself for?
>>7116293
I go through this all the time, Im on day 5. Eventually you get use to it. Its usually day 2-3 that are the hardest when Im forced to.
>>7116305
aww, post linked booty
>>7116308
Holy shit I'm glad she's alive
This thread was made for me!
>>7116315
b/c i got a d on 1 of my midterms.
i'm not confident about 1 of the others either.
i really need a mentor
>>7116299
That's okay i strangled a cat before so that should keep lil chara safe.
>>7116300
O.O
>>7116303
But im pansexual.
>>7116305
Yes it is i have a few more. ^=^
>>7116308
No that's hilarious
>>7116317
you need food to survive!!
hope your sister is doing better
>>7116326
Wait, what? What happened to Kayla's sister?
>>7116327
You're my favorite trip
>>7116283
Exhausted, light migraine, various muscle and joint pains, and hands and lower legs feel like they have burns all over them. I took 400mg of Co-Q10 a bit ago, and the migraine and exhaustion are less intense.
>>7116335
Car accident.
>>7116331
I only have that one picture
>>7116310
yes I am very snuggle and huggly
>>7116338
Oh. Yeah, don't not transition because of that.
>>7116331
wait really?
I know someone really pretty who has a crush on you
>>7116339
>>7116324
>Eventually you get use to it
Thats not a healthy way to treat starving yourself but then again chopping off my balls because i wanna be a girl wasn't the best way to deal with my psychosis, maybe we all just are weak willed and caved to our mental illness
>>7116328
I wish I was that cat. She probably has no worries in the world.
I feel really weird and confused tonight.
>>7116347
Its not something I can change, I am FORCED to live like this, food is expensive and no one really cares to help.
>>7116310
It's cold, but it hasn't started snowing here yet. Im sure he'll find some place warm to hide, he probably has a home near where I let him go. where-ever he is, safer out there than in here with the cats.
>>7116331
I really hope you're just being edgy, I can't even hurt little lizards without feeling HORRIBLE
>>7116335
MUTILATION STATION
>>7116336
I'm not that good at being dom.
>>7116342
Awww okay.
>>7116345
Oh wow, i never had a crush on me before.
>>7116351
Maybe all that hair dye seeped into that vapid little brain of yours
>tfw seriously considering vegetarianism to save money
i've been assigned to read oedipus rex.
i have a feeling that won't get me in a better mood.
>>7116357
I've become a de facto vegetarian.
>>7116351
aw
for any particular reason?
>>7116355
i can teach u if u want
>>7116353
No i would abuse my pets when i was younger.
I think i might even have a picture of the cat i did it too.
>tfw the thought of someone finding me attractive is still an alien impossibility in my head
>>7116328
Awh I see, can you retake at any point before the year's out?
>>7116362
Yes! My current technique of threatening to cut-off fingers if they dont obey has no effect on anyone it seems.
>>7116356
My hair isn't dyed.
>>7116361
I do not know :/
>>7116366
i mean it's prob cause ur so smol
you need to intimidate with your presence rather than words desu. eye of the tiger and all that!!
>>7116357
have you thought about an all cum diet
>>7116364
probably not.
there was a writing portion.
i hate writing exams
>>7116362
>implying
>>7116365
ohh who
>>7116359
I'm getting there desu
;_;
>>7116365
Chicken is cheap, but it's orders of magnitude more expensive than beans and a few times more expensive than homemade meat substitutes
>>7116370
Harvest sounds hard
coming back here was a mistake
this place makes me miserable
I will post again on saturday the best picture of me from attending the wedding but even then I will still look like shit, so you can all laugh at how hard I try and still fail
then I will disappear
I'm sure the anon that harassed me all last year and the start of this year for being excited about christmas will be happy I'm not here, s/he won
you all won, I'm broken and unfixable
>>7116363
Are you completely retarded? I hope you get physically crippled and that you have to suffer for the rest of your life.
Pathetic piece of garbage.
>>7116363
Well, that's horrible and you should feel terrible about it. Animals can suffer just as much as we can, you must have a really fucked up background to be cold to that.
You should try painting your nails like the pic you posted btw, I bet it'd look good.
also am i the only person itt who loves the gilmore girls and is super pumped f or the netflix special? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGNNSmGDpU
>>7116308
My face looked like mush after I was first put back together after getting beat up. A couple plastic surgeries later and I had a nice face again. You can only tell from the few scar segments that still show. They are all under the hairline. Most of the scars have vanished over the years.
>>7116336
I don't know. I know the normal forms of folic acid and B-12 failed me. Others have found these to work so I'll try them. Apparently about 20% of the population can't transform cyanocobalamin to methylcobalamin at all, and 30% do it very slowly. The rest can, but it is resource wasteful.
>>7116374
>Harvest sounds hard
are you kidding thats the best part
>>7116282
there's bi women too, you're probs better off with bi women because they're less likely to have been on the periphery of TERFs.
>>7116375
It is horrible.
Please come back on Christmas, at least to say hi then leave.
See you Sheen, best of luck.
I'm so sorry this place has been so toxic to you Sheen. I wish you the best of luck with the wedding and everything! :)
>>7116369
Ok but how do i do that looking like a tiny hamster.
Plus i basically submit on command.
>>7116376
I mean it's not that bad. It was just mostly me experimenting with myself.
>>7116377
I don't do it anymore, and i can't change the past.
I paint my nails pretty often actually i just don't show it off much i guess but thanks ^=^
>mfw people freak out about animals being tortured but they still eat meat
okie i'm gonna go now, i just wanted to update the ppl who knew how awful i felt about me feeling better and stuff, i don't wanna drag anyone down or take away focus. i'll tty all later, have a nice night!! <3
>>7116374
What are good homemade meat substitutes?
>>7116390
don't let crohn's give u the moans
>>7116388
How about me experimenting with myself by setting you on fire?
>>7116390
I'm so sorry. When I'm going through.my stomach cramps caused by internal hemmorhoid bleeding, I also pretend I'm going through my period. I even wear pads. LMAO.
I'm happy you're feeling better and please stop wanting to sudoku :3
Edie is best girl even though she thinks she's mean girl...dat catholic guilt trip. :).
>>7116175 #
Yah, I know! I just want to be a miss knowitall :)
>>7116397
I don't really understand what your issue is?
>>7116398
I figured out why
I forgot my meds LMAO
>>7116321
Electrum was often valued poorly due to its alloy nature
>>7116393
Seitan
Dishes made with TVP or soy protein
Tempeh and tofu (this isn't any cheaper than meat really)
>>7116375
*hugs*
>>7116402
You
>>7116403
oooooh that'll do it
i ran out of fluoxetine today
probably shouldn't have committed to taking it again when i was gonna run out before the next psych appointment ._.
>>7116404
I still don't understand @.@
>>7116390
I hear you douching with unsterilized water did this.....
>>7116371
Ouch >:
>>7116382
That is true. I just feel scared of having a tiny dating pool because I really want to hold out for someone better for me than my last two relationships.
>>7116386
I really shouldn't think to much about it desu. It's just a weird feeling not knowing how to define something that I was so sure about pre transition. Just taking it easy and not rushing into something that doesn't feel right is probably the best I can do.
>>7116402
don't listen to them, they sound like someone who'd volunteer for PETA
>>7116386
They are all symptoms of ME/CFS. Rest is the only thing I found that makes them better.
>>7116412
yikes ya
running out of meds sucks ;;
good luck on getting some soon tho!!
>>7116408
Well i like you! <3
>>7116416
Rachel <3
i think it might actually be a good thing that nobody's identified me.
i've said some things that i would otherwise be better off not saying.
that fact is very apparent
>>7116418
i wanna ask him for something different
or rather something additional
he said that something for my depression would help with anxiety but it's not really the case
>>7116420
Chara <3
>>7116389
My friend, my dear friend, congnitive dissonance is part of being human.
What happens to local fauna when the forest is felled for you crops?
Whole ecosystems destroyed for your kale and quinoa....
It might not be torture, but it's destruction of life. Yet you are neither aware, nor mind...
hi guys
I just took my first ever lsd hit 50 minutes ago
170mics
How long does it take to fully hit when ingested orally?
>>7116420
Oh great, let's meet it will be unforgettable for you.
>>7116427
How are you? ^=^
>>7116429
3
>>7116430
You're too scared of me to do that.
>>7116423
Which were your posts, mystery anon?
>>7116429
probably around 1.5 hours.
maybe 2
>>7116432
i mentioned my grades.
& my reaction
>tfw I want to smoke a bunch of weed right now and suck some cock
>tfw I have neither
>>7116428
1. No, you can't say that plant agriculture makes more waste than animal agriculture, just because you live near farms. You're a moron. I have studies, you have crazy fucking assumptions, or you're just a shill shamelessly lying. I live in the same country as you and the facts very fucking obviously disprove your claim.
2. There is pollution involved even if the animals really did survive solely off the land. And I hope you realize that would be an infinitesimally small amount of animals who are raised that way, and their products reach an infinitesimally small amount of people, and there are still a huge amount of flaws with consuming their products that would take a year to fully get into alone.
3. I see no value to your life, but I'm sure you do. Most people won't kill you because you hold value to your life, not the other way around.
4. I don't want to promote overpopulation you fucking genius, we're already overpopulated and this is the only logical way to deal with that fact.
5. You don't destroy the entire fucking planet because you want to kill a few billion people. The people who survive would have absolutely miserable lives. Your logic is fucking cancer.
6. The world isn't going to go vegan overnight and if it did I'm sure those vegans would love to care for those animals til the end of their days.
7. They're not just income waste, they're living creatures who feel and experience life similar to children.
8. Veganism is the only logical solution to a long list of problems.
9. Even China now is trying to cut its meat consumption in half. Everything you fucking say is filled with misinformation, simple ignorance, smugness, and blatant lies.
10. They're not as healthy anymore, and the ones who were ate a primarily vegan diet. You are fucking shameless.
Please don't bother responding to this unless you want to ask for sources. I don't have the time or patience to deal with anymore of your shit.
>>7116413
I'd rather have been a platinoid
Still precious, but irrelevant
Perhaps i already am
>>7116431
I am too exited to see you suffer to not meet you.
I literally dreamed of torturing a murderer tonight, then I wake up and read that you abused your pets. It's a sign.
>tfw too many new games to play
>>7116439
lol ok
>>7116434
Oh, I see. Well, I wish you good luck with future exams and with transition, whoever you are.
>>7116442
Might as well spend all your time shitposting on mtfg like you do already then!
i really like yaoi
i wish i was an anime boy yaoi
>>7116426
well
for both parts
good luck
ok?
>>7116438
what's wrong :c
>>7116444
i wish i had enough time for psychedelics.
i really could go for something that would scramble my brain.
enough so that i could just forget that i exist for a while
>>7116444
well, it isn't magic mushrooms, so you should be fine
>>7116458
I don't have enough time
My parents are out for a week but I have tons of appointments with filthy normies
Is your life that bad?
>>7116450
<3
>>7116460
Alright I believe you
If only Trashy would give me info besides calling me a degenerate >:(
Reminder you're all beautiful and I adore you all.
>>7116460
12 to 15 sounds a bit long I was thinking 8 or 9 hours.
Sure you're not thinking of DOB?
Can I get an orchie now and then do SRS later? I don't want cancer but I also want the best neovag possible. I just can't afford it.
>>7116460
drugs drugs drugs
>>7116452
thanks isla ^^
and yes yaoi is good
especially cute yaoi
>>7116467
>I don't want cancer
how is this relevant?
also the only way to 100% avoid cancer is to remove all living tissue
>>7116464
unfortunately, i'll have to spend the rest of the semester playing catch up on @ least 1 of my courses.
not really looking forward to all the papers i'll have to write
>>7116470
AAs give you cancer.
>>7116460
>Uhhh what the fuck have you done? It lasts for 12-15 hours lol and you'll be way out of it fro a bit after
O-oops
Well dinner is in like 10 hours but I will have to talk to my brother before that
Will that be doable?
>>7116466
Apart from the bro interaction idc how long this shit lasts if it's too long for interaction with bro anyway just let it be as long as possible
>>7116471
Awoo feelsbad :(
YOu should at least have time for drugs seometimes, right?
>>7116472
Evidence of that?
>>7116464
let us know when you start coming up
>have cyst on testicle that causes you near constant pain
>also prevents you from tucking
>doctors say they refuse to give you orchi incase it fucks up future SRS
:C
>>7116476
I read it on 4chan.
>>7116475
unfortunately, no. my whole school week will be drenched in classes & work from now on
>>7116478
Get the cyst removed?
>>7116479
Well, anti-androgens are generally used to treat certain kinds of cancer, I haven't heard of them raising the likelihood of cancers, maybe the estrogens do.
>>7116464
Yeah I was gonna say lol, you date trashy and you haven't done acid before?
>>7116466
I'm talking about all effects having dissipated completely. After 8 hours it's pretty possible to act normally, but especially if you use weed which intensifies the effects you'll typically still get some effects until at least 12 hours.
>>7116475
Oh, I thought you meant in like a few hours.
You should be ok, as long as you don't need sleep. Just tell him you're really tired and any of the effects should be explained away.
>>7116475
check erowid or something
if you took a tab and it was bitter you're in for long-ass trip but it'll be hilarious and stimmy. that's DOB.
if it tasted like a kinda watery vodka taste but barely there then you got the LSD and the first thing you'll notice is "wow everything looks really cool..." and it'll be like 8-9 hours with kind of a trippy vibe lasting until you go to sleep pretty much.
>>7116479
Maybe stop getting your medical advice from 4chan.
>>7116481
i probably won't have much access to the food i have in my kitchen, even if my grade recovers
Roomie gave me an oxy as i left for work and showed me 2 new bottles of ketchup he bought for me. Tonight wont be so bad afterall. I held back a giggle as i almost called him daddy
>>7116477
I actually unironically think I am coming up now
Shaking and seeing patches in vision
this is it right lads?
>>7116485
>Yeah I was gonna say lol, you date trashy and you haven't done acid before?
No she only fed me ketamine before but then she went all anti-drugs on me???
>>7116485
>Oh, I thought you meant in like a few hours.
depends on when he wakes up rly
>>7116481
That really sucks :(
>>7116486
It didt really taste like much desu but I cant smell at all (had it like 8 years now?) so it may just be my fucked up senses
>tfw not cool and don't do drugs besides HRT and allergy pills
>>7116492
Aww
Glad she's gone away from the drugs, she did it way too much, that makes sense why she didn't reply to me when I was tripping then. Can you tell her I'm sorry please? I don't think I have her on anything anymore
And hopefully you got acid then. I dunno about DOB but the RC I tried was quite bitter so I think you would taste it, most RCs are bitter I think
>>7116494
don't feel bad anon ur not the only one
>>7116494
I wish i could get baked again but since I am getting into management soon i can't because they do random tests
>>7116494
>allergy pills
wouldn't happen to be diphenhydramine, would it?
>>7116492
that sounds about right.
hey, here's something cool.
try closing your eyes
>>7116491
kaylaaas gottt a boyfrieenndd
seriously thats the kind of will they wont they stuff that happened on spaced
>>7116504
No way, he can just be daddy. I want a bf that is fit.
>>7116505
Oh nvm maybe I'm just being insecure lol. For messaging her about lsd and whatever
And I didn't know you got it off the darknet, GOOD FOR YOU
Seriously unless you have an amazing hookup you can really really trust IRL so so much LSD you buy is fake.
If he has a really good rep and no reports of fake shit you should be good.
Goood morning
>>7116508
LOL
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I can't believe I was kicked out of my own town because I sang a song against the mayor.
You'll get yours some day Ryan
>>7116512
yeah red is buttmad, she has been full repression mode on FB, stuff like "im not trans im just a feminine boy" and then pulls stuff like this
i called her a hon and blocked her
>>7116511
mornin hanna !!
>>7116509
o, right.
i forgot about that.
bjorgfist should have tested it
>>7116509
That's really reassuring actually, thanks <3
I'll tell her that
>tfw now she'll check my posts on here
Fug
Also guys the suns coming up I do NOT need dis
daylihght
>>7116509
when I got real lsd it was off this lil lesbo girl she kept it in a vial and would put it on fruit pastilles for you.
Off any other person it'd always be some kind of RC, and I've often heard people say they've taken acid and go on to describe the effects of most RCs exactly.
>>7116511
good morn
your hair looks so prettyyy
Fuck, even with a sports bra my tits stll show through my work shirt. I look like a fucking tranny.
>>7116511
Morning~
That's a nice pic :o
>>7116522
maybe you should let your hr dept know what's going on & invest in women's work attire
>>7116511
Goodness you're so beautiful.
>>7116522
LEWD
>>7116517
Fake LSD doesn't really happen much on the darknet, does it? I would test IRL (and I have, and I have a very trusted hookup now though I don't do it anymore, or at least very rarely) but on the darknet I wouldn't really bother.
>>7116518
haaaa
you should look at some neural network images
and I like looking in the mirror but that REALLY freaks a lot of people out apparently so maybe don't
>>7116519
That's so awesome. And yeah, I've never gotten fake but I've never heard of anyone in the area buying from anyone other than the person I do and getting anything that wasn't fake, it's really sad. One guy was literally selling fucking strychnine.
>>7116515
Edgy my man
>>7116511
wow.
i'm astonished.
how long have you been on hrt?
>>7116534
hows it feel to hate yourself lol
>>7116531
better than like 15 minutes ago
i forgot to take my pills so i felt rlly weird
>>7116536
>implying I'm red
Lmao
>>7116531
I am not beautiful, but you are a treasure, please stay pretty.
>>7116541
they're going to find out.
i think it would be better if you told them
>>7116511
Morning! How's everything?
>>7116482
It's too small for any doctor to consider that. Even though it causes pain.
Please don't misgender me, I'm a "he"
I'll never be a real girl
>>7116549
Really?
Well i gotta punch in. Ni ni
>>7116552
please.
you're better than all of us.
except hanna & isla
>>7116559
dont give her the attention
>>7116552
BDD
D
D
>>7116552
Okay ma'am
>>7116556
much better -w-
but i DONT HAVE CUTE KISSES WTF
>>7116561
why not?
she is
>>7116559
I'm 6'2 and a clumsy oaf
I got scraped up bad by the pavement while running cuz my huge feet
>>7116552
Don't worry red
We can both be fem boys :)
>>7116566
Ok red
>>7116570
i'm not red.
as a matter of fact, i'm a different tripfag altogether
>>7116552
if you were a he you wouldn't be so buttmad when i call you "hon" and use "man" as an insult
>>7116556
Super duper pretty! I'd snuggle!
>>7116571
SOB
Hi
Nini I love you all
Please don't make me angry
I'm in pain and can't run for a few days
I hate it so much
>>7116581
Hoi
>>7116531
I'm good! Slept better than I have had in a while. My hair's been growing out pretty good, too, so that's nice ^u^
What about you?
>>7116582
Sup?
>>7116576
how're you emu
>>7116584
Thats great!
Im trying to convince myself to get out of bed and go to class
>>7116580
i want cute kisses and hugs
>>7116588
Do it, don't be like me and skip your way out of college.
>>7116576
tfw no trans girl bf
>>7116590
how did it go? did you get to talk about anything important?
>>7116589
*hugs*
hey bjorgfist.
how are you holding up?
who am i kidding? she's probably tripping balls by now
>>7116569
This gif gives me feels
I'm never what I like
I'm double sided
And I just can't hide
I kinda like it
When I make you cry
>>7116576
Hi did you got drunk yesterday?
>>7116596
ye
everyone knows that pic
>>7116589
Well huggs for you then~
>>7116593
Okidoki
hospital's nice
>>7116605
Again?
>>7116598
kek
Getting bloodwork tomorrow, if my T results come back and they're still too high, considering I'm on 300 mg of spiro, should I start selfmedding cypro and see if that helps?
Okay shit is really starting now lads'
wall bubbling and shit
bjorgie out maybe?
dunno
>>7116600
...are you feeling any better?
>>7116596
yeah i know it can be difficult to say
i just abruptly said it toward the end of my last session
it made me feel distressed but hopefully it's gonna help with future sessions
>>7116610
just cut your balls off
>>7116607
a week!!!1
>>7116607
Yea irl hugs are nice
>>7116610
if you can get on cypro why haven't you already done it?
it's better than spiro in every way
>>7116615
Yeah easy stuff. You won't bleed to death or something.
>>7116610
that'd be a shame.
the last time i got my bloodwork done, my results showed a 34.
@ this point, i might be down to a range between 20 & 30.
damn, my next bloodwork is due around mid-november
>>7116614
Idk if I'm gonna say it desu, either way I can't see how they'd help with dysphoria.
>>7116620
just about!
welp, i'm off to school! I hope you all have a great day today <3
>>7116624
Whats in a week?
>>7116622
yeah it would be
i hate feeling like i'm still masculinizing even on hrt and it might just be my imagination but i think i am ughhhh
>>7116626
that's when she shows up in your bedroom in the middle of the night
>>7116620
Yea ill be getting my dose of irl hugs on friday
You should find someone to hug you
>>7116619
well it's actually an antiandrogen instead of a diuretic that just happens to lower testosterone
I think the liver stuff is just a meme
anecdotally I was on 100mg (very high dose) for months and got my liver tested and it was fine
Sometimes I feel like I wanna feel real pain
Something holds me back, something makes me refrain
>>7116437
Full fucking retard.
>>7116636
well i mean it doesn't happen in months, i definitely wouldn't take it then
over a period of several years i mean, just like spiro
>>7116637
you are worrying me
>>7116639
:3
i wish i had somebody that wasn't a fucking man to play video games or watch cartoons with
>>7116639
Good ^^
not getting hugged is the worst feeling ever
>>7116636
my doctor put me on 200mg a day.
after a couple short months 100mg.
i think it was to test my levels of tolerance &/or for allergies
>tfw no one to bend me over and fuck me rn
don't mind me I am just dumping average cis girls so you all feel as horrible as I do
>>7116637
Are you feeling ok Nep?
>>7116648
LMAO that's not even close to average
have you ever left your bedroom bb
>>7116647
i have the weakest boner right now
>>7116648
>tfw have to tie my hair up for work
>tfw forehead
>>7116653
>>7116437
>tfw people can't just take the reasonable stance of eating healthy, eating less and higher quality meat, and exploring other protein rich foodstuffs as their staples
Why be so militant
>>7116648
wow looks like her ffs surgeon botched her lips
>>7116652
my cock is super hard and veiny.
>>7116659
Go on.
>>7116659
my pitiful erection is trounced into submission.
i'm soft again
i dunno why but i'm losing it but i'm still using it wtf
>>7116655
>>7116663
when I get ffs I'm giving explicit instructions to leave my lips the fuck alone
it's ok to listen to lady gaga now that i'm a girl
right
We're not damaged goods
Maybe we're just lonely people
>>7116650
>>7116663
do you ever leave your restaurant?
obviously not otherwise you would know that these are average women
>>7116667
honestly, compared to these average ciswomen,
i'm just feeling only a tiny bit butch & really plain
>>7116673
the first woman you posted has obviously had surgery
>>7116667
Ow. This one got me.
>>7116669
yes but why would you want to
>>7116674
o, jesus, i'm grinding.
stop that
>>7116675
WHEN stay positive~
Also you don't need ffs you look super-cis it'd just be a standard face-lift
>>7116672
you could at least acknowledge me vv
>>7116682
yeah
like if for me
cuz i dont think ill need it much
>>7116654
Have you moved your parting? it's looking better
>>7116669
>tfw unironically like lady gaga
bored bored bored
>>7116681
grind against it all you want girl
>>7116669
she's got a new album yeah?
is it any good
>>7116678
you know the actress who plays gilly on game of thrones
when she isnt wearing makeup to intentionally make her look more plain she looks like this
>>7116691
sure you can find some animal to fuck with. entertain yourself with a bug and a magnifying glass.
>>7116675
yes maam
>>7116695
It's too cold out for bugs.
>>7116687
I don't think so? My fringe is pulled back a bit more to keep it out of my face but that's pretty much it I think.
>>7116683
>>7116694
oh wow~
that's a british smile if i've ever seen one
>>7116668
ur prolly being facetious but that's not rly how ffs works, you choose specifically which things to do especially because each one raises the bill
>>7116673
I travel loads, maybe if you live in Beverly Hills or something? You can't be serious lol. I've been to loads of major cities and you're delusional or trolling.
And like, being in my restaurant makes me see loads of people every day so I'm not sure what you're even getting at there
>>7116679
cause she's a really positive role model and a lot of her songs are actually good!
>>7116688
yessssssssss
what are songs you like that aren't the ones everyone knows
>>7116693
i haven't listened to it in it's entirety! i only just started listening to her
i'm listening now tho
the songs i heard were p. fun
>>7116688
>tfw seeing Lady Gaga in her new cowgirl outfit
Triggered and turned me on.
Cause I've lost my stance
Just like a fallen man
Oh the things I've hoped you would say
Your radiance runs deep
In my colour scheme
Where will you go when the storm washes you away
>>7116700
you look really cute in that uniform
average cis girls
>>7116698
You forgot the apostrophe in ma'am.
>>7116699
that's why they sneak inside to snuggle with u :3
>>7116707
I wish average cis girls looked like these.
>>7116707
>average
lmao
>>7116709
I know it's reallly cuute.
I WANT A PET SCORPION
>>7116711
>>7116706
Aww thanks! It feels less so when you know the stuff I have to do whilst wearing it though. I'll get a better one when I start uni in Feb.
Anyway work time, bye thread! xx
>>7116703
I like the ones everyone knows
I'm not an avid gaga fan, I just think she makes a mean pop song and seems to be pretty talented.
>>7116704
I need to hear this new gaga
>>7116720
>>7116714
lmao why would you want to abuse a scorpion it's not good to get on a scorpion's bad side
>>7116693
i like it so far!
>>7116717
oh ok
and yes! i basically just started listening to her two days ago other than on the radio cause i was thinking on it and made the realization that not only is she a cool person but also her music's fun af
>>7116721
>>7116716
I can read backwards and my mum did the same kind of job.
I think I've got a good idea of some of the stuff you end up doing in it but I'd still hugg you afterwards
>>7116723
cool
i'll probably check it out to see how different it is to like her old stuff
>>7116721
>>7116724
Stop I'm already dead.
>all these titties juggling
>>7116723
Why do you think i want to abuse it?
I just think they're cute ;-;
>>7116724
if you're serious just like
go on facebook and look at the friends you have that are girls
>>7116727
definitely a lot different, it's less totally electronic
>>7116728
This is literally nothing at all like what average girls look like. I wouldn't even be feeding the troll except for people actually getting dysphoric from this idiocy
>>7116732
hmmmm ok
but why would you want a pet if not to abuse it
>>7116732
Bc you're you
>general's gone full attention whores and trolls
Yeah, fuck this shit.
>>7116723
Yeah
In a lot of ways she's similar to Madonna but she has her own thing going on with the spectacle and shit.
Idk, one of the few top40 artists that I like
>>7116733
>go on facebook and look at the friends you have that are girls
they all look like this
that is what I am saying
>>7116737
Bye see you tomorrow
>>7116740
>>7116737
>implying it wasn't always like that
>>7116734
>>7116735
I mean pulling it's tail apart does seem appealing HOWEVER, I HAVE PURE INTENT.
I just want a cute pet scorpion to feed and look at.
>>7116738
yeah, i always end up finding top 40 artists i like so late cause i basically ignore them and use other means to find music and then people think i'm a hipster lmao "how do you not know this song"
>>7116740
HA
I like how after I mentioned that you posted the first girl that's actually remotely average hahaha
And you're completely full of it of course, unless you only add women that reach your ridiculous standards.
>>7116745
aww hmm ok
i'm not sure if i believe you but i might
>>7116743
a man looked at my wee-willy-woo am i pregnant now?
not everyone is as ugly as you and your sjw garbage friends
except for maybe me compared to my friends somehow
>>7116746
>tfw you have to listen to Justin bieber at work
>>7116681
>tfw couldn't tease you more
>>7116750
>>7116726
<3
(OK work for real this time peace out)
>>7116759
This one hurt..
>>7116763
he is eventually going to want to get srs and start presenting
all femboys are just trannies who dont want to admit they are girls
>>7116746
Why don't you believe me you know i like scorpions.
;-;
>>7116763
Internet relationships are fun.
>>7116764
really? it just gave me an erection
>>7116763
Long distance relationships never work unless you have a viable pathway to living close within a reasonable time frame
pregnant triggery sucks but notice that once she started posting pregnant ladies
they stopped looking crazy "conventionally attractive" CAUSE NORMAL GIRLS TAKE PICTURES OF PREGNANCY NOT MODELS LMAO
>>7116767
what does that have to do with you not wanting to hurt it tho
>>7116756
oh god im so sorry for you
like i'm not even being ironic that's terrible jfc
>>7116708
maam
>>7116770
I can be gentle you know that.
>>7116774
i mean yeah but
it's an animal :^)
>>7116763
hows your transition going maki
>>7116772
I need hugs.
>>7116768
Are you a boy?
>>7116763
LDR is a meme.
See using the computer is a leisure activity and you can't be in a relationship like that. often one partner gets upset about how often they can talk to the other forgetting that outside of the computer they have a life and things to do or maybe just want to spend their free time doing something else
LDR never works. Sometimes I hear of one that's worked for quite a while but in the end the same problems come up. Lack of intimacy/sex and the shit i already mentioned
my cock hurts someone please rub it
>>7116775
I don't do that stuff anymore.
>>7116770
I hate my life
I hate all of you
and I especially hate cis women
>>7116763
internet relationships just don't really work long-term tbH
>>7116784
hahahahhahahaha so you're admitting you were just posting bs?
oh wait this is angie isn't it
gdi angie
>>7116781
>Not really.
I bet he has told you and tells himself that just because he takes hrt and wears gender neutral clothing that doesnt mean he wants to be a girl
soon he will start wearing more girlish clothing and delve into makeup before you know it you will be dating a girl
>>7116784
Why do you hate me?
>>7116770
It's pretty bad
I want real music to bag groceries to ;~;
>>7116781
Idk, it still sounds a bit unsatisfying
I say this as someone who ended up in 2 ldrs earlier this year and neither of them made it past a few weeks. Shit just doesn't have enough intimacy.
>>7116784
wow this shit actually makes me glad i can't have kids
pressing on your bladder mangling your intestines fuck seems like moretrouble than it's worth.
Still... bigger boobs tho...
>>7116777
I'm going to soon <3
>>7116790
also yeah
especially if you're doing something monotonous and repetitive
i'm so sorry :C
>>7116787
>you're admitting you were just posting bs
I admitted it from the start>>7116648
>I am just dumping average cis girls so you all feel as horrible as I do
>>7116789
'cos you're too tall
>>7116783
For now
>>7116793
Are you now?
>>7116797
as in you expected it to be patently obvious that was sarcasm and those are way more conventionally attractive than the vast majority of girls? fair enough
>>7116795
be nice to me
>>7116800
well yeah im banned from having pets atm.
>>7116795
I mean, there was a period where the two of us were seeing each other like every 5 to 6 weeks.
Idk I still don't think I could sustain something like that, particularly given visits just felt like "on again off again" ;_;
>>7116511
>No longer Honnah
Good girl
What is my sexuality if I want to fuck women (cis or trans) and cute, hairless men? I don't want to say bi because then gross men with hair below the neck will want to touch me.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508416
>>7116811
Do not let Chara near animals again.
>>7116811
I mean logically its well deserved.
>>7116806
for sure i feel you. irl relationships are way better, just sometimes it happens when you're so emotionally needy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>7116810
tough shit you're bi
>>7116810
you're bi, you just have a certain preference when it comes to men
>>7116801
yus ~
>>7116804
>be nice to me
im banned from having pets atm.
Glad to hear dat
>tfw can never be triggered by pregnant chicks because I never want kids
>>7116810
Do not seek out or invent tumblrtarded terms for your attraction to femininity.
>>7116825
Nah I already know your edgy.
>>7116805
Then be friends, it does sound like you're creating the perfect conditions to wind up emotionally codependent though.
>>7116816
Yeah, I think being extremely lonely and still grieving over a breakup was sort of what pushed me to attempt long distance in one case. It's such an easy trap to fall into.
>>7116825
>Supervision me pls
>wanna see a picture of the kitty i strangled?
You can see how you're making this difficult, yes?
>>7116828
It's just a normal picture.
>>7116822
That should be fun.
What would you like to do?
>>7116830
What can i do if im being watched?
>>7116831
Ah yeah that's okay. Thought you want to post the mess..
>be cute girl
>Wake up
:/
>>7116834
Something quick.
>>7116834
livestream your suicide
>>7116832
hug and sleep in ur bed
h-haha
>>7116840
LMAO
>tfw have probably been ripped off
I mean this cant be it right
I'm only seeing p mild visuals man
Can't have been 170 then surely right? r-right?
At least that'd let my know what the fault was
>>7116841
Yeah do this
I mean wow it'd hurt lots of people and it'd be a totally callous and anti-social thing to do you should totally do it.
>>7116833
<3
>>7116836
hi hi
>>7116837
Pizza
>>7116840
Like what?
>>7116841
Why would i suicide?
>>7116845
>you fell for the acid meme
lmfao
so sleepy
need cuddles
>>7116842
Aw.
Thats cute.
We could do that if you would like.
>>7116847
Kitty is cute. :c
Why Chara kill kitty?
>>7116845
>Lsd at 8 in the morning
Wtf
>>7116833
How long ago was this ;_;
>>7116845
You doing acid?
>>7116798
Wow bully
>>7116847
Play with your pussy on cam for us
>>7116847
So fluffy ._.
>>7116852
she's nuts
>>7116861
Bad Chara. Kitty nice.
>>7116862
Too late for kitty now.
:)
>>7116864
Bad Chara.
>>7116855
almost two years now lol
we didn't talk for ages mostly cause i thought she hated me but we do now and it's not awkward or anything, i don't even have feelings for her anymore but it's just like, she was more compatible for me than anyone else and if she ever wanted to try things again i would jump at the chance, rip
actually maybe not though since i can't really travel as much as i could before
>>7116863
lmao, yeah, that's like the worst thing to do
you're not gonna get any visuals from looking at text, it's EXTREMELY dependent on what you're looking at
thsoe trippy images on the internet are called trippy images for a reason
also look closely at your hands and fuzzy things, and look in the mirror or at the walls
i highly doubt you've been ripped off if it was a reputable person on the darknet
and again, play a cartoony colorful game, or a really beautiful one
>Finally found a gender therapist near me
>Been seeing him for several months
>First session "You can start HRT after four sessions"
>Fourth session "You can start HRT after six sessions"
>Sixth session "You will need years of therapy before transitioning
;_; Send help
>>7116871
find someone new
>>7116871
Get a better one, there's gotta be one decently close, I live in bumb-fuck, montana and I have 3 within reasonable distance.
>>7116863
Did you drop on a full stomach?
If not you either got ripped off or didn't store it properly ;_;
Also, every time you say elsanna I get that thing where I think I read my name lol
>>7116868
That's hard.
Idk it always sucks to know someone is actually compatible but lives that far away
>>7116871
Bitch was playing games with me so I ordered some cypro off the internet and popped two mid session. The look on her fucking face as I explained they weren't FDA approved anyways so it's not like I could have gotten them legitimately was priceless.
You own these people. Remember that. They want to be in control but they are nothing without you. Also if you die under their care after pulling any sort of stunt in their presence they are in a SHITLOAD of trouble.
>>7116878
omfg yes i love you
>>7116877
>Did you drop on a full stomach?
I dropped on a alcohol tummy ;_;
It was air tight sealed in plastic and then covered with paper, no aluminum foil though.
>>7116876
I'm not killing anything friendpal.
>>7116880
In the dark?
>>7116882
in mail delivery system.
>>7116880
didn't you say it was like 8 years old? If it's that old it'd have degraded into inactive analogues
>>7116883
Oh, ok, so you took it basically after it arrived then? How old was it?
>>7116887
How many Kurisu pics?
good night
>>7116900
nini
>>7116900
night chara
OlafXElsa is the one true pairing
>>7116905
BACK
THE FUCK
OFF
>>7116877
yeah :(
we're gonna meet up soon tho which i think will be good for me since she's the oldest friend i still really talk to regularly and i haven't hung out with a trans girl that i'm close friends with in soooooooo long
>>7116900
gn little sociopath
wow i never noticed how cute you were
wow i never noticed how cute you were
I really shouldn't be looking at my reflection
>tfw nobody goes healer for three straight games
it's not fair to take advantage of trans girls like this
>>7116925
omg >///<
My first twelve win arena run.
Hold your applause.
>>7116871
>get shrink
>after first session she walks me to the endocrinologist for hrt script
>tfw trutrans af
>>7116929
Sounds like you got fucked.
>>7116934
I'm just gonna go back to not looking at myself period. I don't wanna kill my okay mood or become obsessive with the mirror again
>>7116871
you been had, kiddo
>>7116936
i mean ofc i'll be a healslut but that doesn't mean i'll like it
I wish I was blind sometimes
>>7116943
quid gangbang 2016
>>7116936
jk i like it
>tfw sadness and swirly patterns all over the place
>>7116950
omg what the heck uwu
>>7116947
I wish I was blind but instead of blind I mean dead
>>7116960
Oh yeah, I wish I was that now too
>Tfw you will always just have a boy bod
>a soft smooth boy body
>with boobs
>and thin legs
>and hips
tfw feel like i am miles away from having to do real people business
i wanna be all cozied up awoo
Hello everyone!
Good morning!
How are you?
>>7116965
hey qt
>>7116962
good feels
>>7116947
lose weight aussie
>>7116965
good mornin
cute hat uwu
i'm doing well
I want to be cute again, not a man-creature
tfw you're level 30 and get stuck in a game in which literally everyone else has at least two stars
jesus what is up with blizzard matchmaking i had like a 1 k/d ratio and i was mostly d.va lmao, then like an eon later it's like "finding a more balanced game"
>>7116972
reporting back
liked album quite a bit for what it was
>>7116974
>You are you doing!?
I, uh, yes
im ok though, decided to fuck studying and play through the dark souls dlc today
>>7116972
good morning hamster
See you later or not
do transbians do more or less domestic violence than real lesbians? (tl note: no it's not the same, agps are not real women)
i got discharged from the psych ward again
how are you /mtfg/
can someone please put "Kayla" over Kyoko and "/mtfg/" over Yui
>>7116990
I have nothing planned yet, I think I'm gonna throw out my hrt though
>>7116987
reeeeeeee
you are looking more cis every day
why were you in the psych ward?
>>7116990
im ok
i had this weird dream where I was at the gym and there was a transgirl there and she was being bullied by a TERF but then someone threw a barbell at her and she left.
then i was the transgirl somehow,
>>7116991
what do you generally do in your daily life? Trying to find a job atm? You need to get on mones asap young lady
>>7116991
i wish i had caffeine
>>7117000
nah this was from before the ward
i havent been on hrt for a few days so i look shite rn
i was in for another attempt
>>7117001
>Trying to find a job atm
This...
And waiting for the gubmint to deny me disability pay....
>>7117002
You make me want to give up
>>7116928
I always shower in the dark and limit lighting while shaving.
>>7116947
That's stupid.
>>7116965
Hello beauty.
>>7116982
Oh bye stay safe pls.
>>7116987
What did you do?
>>7117008
I could kill myself
Then I won't feel sad or dysphoric ever again
>>7116962
when are you getting SRS and ffs and a boyfriend?
>>7117001
where the fuck did they get those measurements? and samus didn't have that physique at all. really hate when fan artists mess with proportions to promote an agenda, like making korra a straight up musclegirl or making mei a straight up fatty.
Morning girls~
>>7117011
i don't want you to feel pain but i also DO want you to feel happy
suicide won't get you the latter
>>7117016
>ywn be this thicc
>>7117006
:c you feeling okay em?
please dont throw out your hrt
we can meet up soon if you want
>>7117009
tried to od
>>7117017
i asked for a cappuccino from the hospital before but they confused it with a hot chocolate so now i have no caffeine
>>7117020
morninngggg
gm
how are you
>>7117020
Good morning Basic.
>>7117028
they asked for both from the shop and they didnt mark which was which
>>7117021
Lol, I'm never going to be happy
I'm glad someone finally told the truth about me
>>7117026
No not at all.
I realized how badly I've been hugboxed all this time.
All I want is to sleep 6ft under.
>>7117016
I'm pretty sure Samus was described as being really tall at some point, except when they made her short in Other M.
The wiki seems to agree with me
http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Samus_Aran
idc about snake tho.
I have no idea about the proportions though, this is what she was officialy supposed to look like in super metroid
>>7117020
hi qt
>>7117011
>The mark of the immature [man/woman] is that [s]he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man[/woman] is that [s]he wants to live humbly for one.
Yeah you won't do anything. Being happy, finding love, being a mother and stuff.
>>7117033
Maybe that's your perspective for now. That tunnel vision makes you blind for the good things.
>>7117026
Wtf that's a fucking stupid reason to throw someone out of a psychiatry.
Pls stop trying to kill you. You're making people sad and doesn't solve anything...
homosexual antimatter
>>7117035
she's like tops 6 feet if those are the measurements of her suit, and rather lithe. also her first incarnation was the most bootylicious
I just think it's stupid if that image is trying to make an argument that samus was made shorter for some kinda non-design reason, and painting her as less muscular definitely implies that, especially when later incarnations are less overtly sexualized
may i have a cuddle
>>7117033
don't glorify the absolute nothingness that is death
thinking of it as "release" or "sleep" is comforting but naive
please just sit tight and wait for these feelings to subside (easier said than done i know)
you're bound to feel better soon
get back to that okay mood
>>7117050
Hugg and pat head
why are all the tofu recipes on the internet vegan??? reee, I just wanna try tofu without eating unethically.
>>7117046
Pretending to be okay...
>>7117046
Shitty per usual.
>>7117051
How can I get back into my okay mood knowing how hideous I am?
Besides, death will be the same as before birth anyways.
>>7117049
idk senpai, I'm pretty sure that's her personal height because I really doubt her suit weighs less than 50 pounds. The first time we see samus sans power suit she does indeed look like that, but every time after that, when we first see her in the blue Zero suit, she's pretty much the same every time after that. She looks very realistic in the image i posted, and the vast majority of the fandom accept her cannon height being 6'3".
do i shower now or when i wake up in the next time
>>7117065
do you sweat in your sleep sometimes?
then shower after
otherwise shower now
>>7117065
Depends
Are you stinky?
>>7117054
c: thank youu
>>7117059
you miraculously and inexplicably felt okay earlier
hope that it just happens again
please rethink things with a clearer mind
i wish i could make you feel okay
>Besides, death will be the same as before birth anyways.
and that's quite terrifying
>>7117065
i shower before bed but it's terrible because my hair goes from being fluffy to clumpy
>>7117072
Don't worry, I got something planned to make me feel at least a little better.
>and that's quite terrifying
not to me, I wish I never came out of that fucking womb.
dark souls is the comfiest game ever made
>>7117068
haha, what's this slut doing
>>7117071
whore!
>>7117075
>>7117072
aren't you ashamed of being such teasing wenches?
>>7117075
>>7117078
>>7117078
n-noo v-v
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508660
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508660
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508660
http://www.strawpoll.me/11508660
I'm gonna take a shower.
>>7117083
how about putting on a more modest shirt you cumdumpster!
>>7117087
>wat
yeah, "wat" would your parents think if they saw you like this, practically begging strangers to fuck you? shameful
>tfw down to one 20 min dilation per month
based
how's the rest doing ?
>>7117089
>>7117091
>>tfw down to one 20 min dilation per month
nice
Good. Getting reffered to the srs clinic in march and going full time in two months
>>7117094
*belly rubs the hamster*
>>7117094
sup you SLUTTY HAMSTER. wearing just a scarf? what are you thinking! skanks like you are just asking for it.
>>7117091
I'm slutshaming mtfg.
>>7117081
Not really, but thank you for offering, it is very kind of you.
my body is a cage
even the BBC is saying that Clinton is going to start ww3
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37766786
>>7117091
I'm stuck, depressed, drunk, don't have any motivation and am wasting my time risking self loathing my graduation.
>>7117106
Yeah like the endo is reccommending me for assessment at the clinic in the uk.
SRS is a few years after that. at least
>>7117088
whats happening between you and your sister? Can you elaborate?
>>7117109
>this is how people read news
>>7117110
my time self loathing risking my graduation*
>one resident left to wash today
>It's someone who complains all the time
>already kicking off that she's not washed yet and I won't be there for another 10 mins
Fuck my life c:
lol tfw probably right
>tfw your break an (almost) 2 month streak.
>>7117089
thats funny you say that because the t-shirt i'm wearing right now i haven't worn for years and there's a liiiittle hole that was fine before but it's DIRECTLY aligned with my nipple now ><
Does anyone here take finasteride or dutasteride? Which is best?
>>7117109
where, anywhere in that article, does the bbc say that clinton will start ww3
sounds like they're just reporting on the ravings of a madman
>>7117112
I dunno, she's been depressed for a while and has a thing where's she's always tired and I this last month there's been put much more responsibility onto me to take care of her in her tough moments. She's a huge dramaqueen and won't reason with anyone if she won't gain anything from it. I'm very timid so I'm not used to speaking up when something happens or when she's doing something she shouldn't. I really have to learn how to handle tough situations and respond better to such behaviour; Normally I just go with the situation, only observing.
A lot of the attention from my family has been going to her. And I, however narcisstic it may sound, feel kind of like I'm being ignored. I shouldn't be complaining about this on the internet and doing something about it IRL, but I don't have many friends to talk to apart from my two exes and one irl /pol/-incarnate friend.
>>7117117
>article is about Trump saying something
>article goes on to list the professional military opinions that agree its a scary and bad idea to enact a no fly zone in Syria
>>7117132
Ah, don't worry about me Basic, you just have yourself a nice time.
>>7117127
There is only one candidate who is mad, and it isn't Trump
>>7117128
I'm visiting a therapist. I just don't make progress.