Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• pleb is entirely correct about how she looks
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
cheto
first for can't call myself a woman without feeling like I'm lying
nth for screwing up your no death run by not quitting via alt-f4
rip 3 hours
>>7070067
Wanna erp?
Reminder you're all insane and will never be women
>>7070067
hope for you the feeling passes. You seem like a nice person
>>7070078
Thx I needed that
If Edie is reading this later, can we please end this dumb war? I'm tired of the bitching, getting childish tbqh. I don't see why we can't just be civil to each other. I don't care about you and you don't care about me so why talk about each other?
>>7070078
Im only in for the boobs and dick anyway.
>>7070082
you're giving into her?
I mean everyone does eventually, but seriously, her and her friends will never stop going anon to shit on you now.
>>7070067
:< hugg basic
There will be a time when you don't even doubt yourself as being one, and it's give be great
>>7070082
you're giving into her?
I mean everyone does eventually, but seriously, her and her friends will never stop going anon to shit on you now.
>>7070067
Hopefully it gets easier after you've been fulltime for a bit. Worked for me at least though it's still a bit awkward because I can't into voice
Does hrt even do anything on my face?
I can't afford ffs and i don't pass even with makeup.
>>7070050
Uh, make a new diary.
4chan doesn't count...
Reading can just be a dangerous escapism as video games.
Squats are good; they'll get you that booty so you don't have a flat ass after becoming a cute girl.
You just do whatever to improve your life situation.
Sleepin/4chan isn't very productive
It's okay, I thought you were similar, that's all.
How to give less fucks about what other people think?
you're giving into her?
I mean everyone does eventually, but seriously, her and her friends will never stop going anon to shit on you now.
>>7070110
Hnn everyone has a girlvoice but me.
>>7070114
Sound like a girl to me
>>7070114
It's honestly garbage I've only been working on it for a week oroperly
I think it being a loud club and being completely girl mode helped
>>7070114
My girlvoice sounds like a guyvoice.
>>7070123
Yr honestly like, an inspiration for me basic
I just want you to know that
>>7070123
I've been working on mine for 6 months-ish fulltime using nothing but it but not in female range still and literally every single guide how to get to female range & resonance is 'just do it'. I hope I win the lottery or something so I can afford surgery. It's either that or being mute, getting clocked every time i open my mouth is not an option
>>7070135
If i'm reading something i am in female range (according to some app), but if i just want to talk casually i'm still below. And i feel this app is hugboxing me and i need to get a lot higher.
>>7070139
Voice pitch analyzer? I wish it'd hugbox me too so I'd have some reason to open my mouth
>tfw your range appears way below the ambiguous for the 10th week in a row and you no longer have the will to keep trying
>>7070128
I'm not sure why.
But thank you that's so lovely.
There are much better girls here to look up to though
>>7070135
Resonance is definitely more important. I'm right in androgynous range when I try. My guy voice is down around 80hz
Like working on it what I do is record myself and play back and tweak for hours. But I'm really lucky that one of my friends has a cis tier voice and is helping me.
It doesn't pass at all yet. Like I said it must have been the club
>>7070067
I felt this a few times while in girlmode,
but I feel that my boymode is just less anxiety
Am I still a hon if I get HRT at 28, despite never actually producing testosterone during puberty?
>>7070141
Yeah this app is nice, i just wish i could listen to it sometimes (even though it would be cringy).
Hm but i guess you have to keep trying?
If i don't do it everyday i need some time to adjust my pitch again.
I started at about 120Hz i think, but within a few weeks of reading a bit every day. I now manage to stay in female range if i try (around 225Hz, but quite monotone).
But i guess it's because i'm not talking much otherwise and i spoke in falsetto for the first weeks so that my natural pitch gets higher (right now ~175Hz)
what do you girls do to relax when you are stressed out ????
>>7070143
>Resonance is definitely more important
Which is funny because it has 0 guides on how to do it that actually explain the process. At least range has like going up notes and stuff as exercises (though I can't find how to raise your cap, is it just genetics?)
>But I'm really lucky that one of my friends has a cis tier voice and is helping me
I got a few friends with cis tier voice but they don't know how to help me or they don't want to, don't know which.
>>7070151
I tried to use the app to track my progress but after it didn't move from the 130-140 ish for 10 weeks after I had been using this voice as 'girlvoice' for months already it kinda broke my motivation.
>falsetto
My falsetto still makes no sound so I can't really use it even for practice :P
hello ^^
>>7070154
Usually I'm just crying everything out.
Any makeup tips for hooded eyes?
I don't understand ftms.
I get that if mtfs exist there probably has to be the opposite too, but T just makes you look older with hair everywhere and acne. Why would anyone want that?
Or is it that men just don't care how they look?
>>7070162
i have these as well ;~~;
>>7070162
same problem :s
>>7070156
Well I mean it's practice. Everyone has a cap on their range but it can be extended by getting stronger.
When I'm trying resonance I usually end up really nasally
>>7070154
Wait there are people who aren't stressed all the time?
>>7070164
We'll Skype anytime you're free and I'll show you what I do
Hooded eyes are tough to work with but once you can they look nice
>>7070171
I want to kiss basic.
>>7070067
Then don't
>>7070171
>Well I mean it's practice.
Got any good tutorials that aren't the 'just do it' type? I'm so sick of those but I've gone through dozens of these things and they always have that step that's like 'do your female voice' or 'do your falsetto' regarding resonance or range respectively.
>Everyone has a cap on their range but it can be extended by getting stronger.
What does this mean? :o
>When I'm trying resonance I usually end up really nasally
There's a pretty distinct difference between nasal male voice and nasal female voice, people have told me that you gotta like speak through your nose but it just results in the former rather than the latter.
Post your favorite transgirl/trip
>>7070178
SadDana/WaitForYou, Juniper, Sirona, Isla/Cody
>tfw fixed all my insurance issues so now I don't owe $800 for anything
Good way to start the day tbdesu, now I don't feel like killing myself
>>7070078
Luv u 2 anon
>>7070154
Shitpost or play video games to escape my sadness
>>7070172
Many will have it because it's a masculine feature.
>>7070178
None
They're all faggots especially carol
>>7070178
My favorite girl(male) is Kit.
>>7070182
No it isn't you retard
Hooded eyes feature excess skin folding down from the brow bone to the lash line, which obscures your crease, shrinks your eyelids and can make you look drowsy. Lots of people have this eye shape from birth, but it could also be the result of your lid drooping with age
Why is 3D printing so expensive v-v
I thought all these big companies that do it for you was supposed to drive costs down..
>>7070186
Kit is a girl
>>7070177
I don't know any. Tutorials didn't help me at all. Just sending clips to my friend and her telling me what to do gave me an idea of what sounds better to work on myself
Well your range can be made higher by practice. I notice if I don't sing for a while, my range drops and I can't hit ones like I used to
It's actually the same for me with the nasally resonance too. Just sounds mannish
>>7070176
But I want to be a girl
>>7070174
You really don't anon
>>7070191
A lot won't be girls
We don't have the genetics for it no matter how hard we try
>>7070178
flannel ":3"
>>7070191
>Tutorials didn't help me at all.
Tell me about it...
>I notice if I don't sing for a while, my range drops and I can't hit ones like I used to
Ah you're a singer that explains that you're progressing so fast. I'm just a pleb and can't hear notes so practicing going up notes is hard because I got no idea if I'm hitting them
>>7070193
You're all already girls.
I want to see myself as one
>>7070188
>Hooded eyes feature excess skin folding down from the brow bone to the lash line, which obscures your crease, shrinks your eyelids and can make you look drowsy. Lots of people have this eye shape from birth, but it could also be the result of your lid drooping with age
>Trusting advertising site.
http://www.totalbeauty.com/content/slideshows/makeup-hooded-eyes-150511
Hooded eyes ARE masculine feature.
>>7070178
puru :3
>>7070191
Yes, Kit is a girl(male). My favorite one in fact.
>>7070199
Got mine from my mom so idk what makes them a masculine feature. My dad doesn't have them
>>7070206
>Can you hear that your pitch is getting higher even if you're not hitting the note?
I can feel/hear it getting higher beause it keeps getting more quiet until it fades somewhere. Like yeah I can follow the keys on a piano to some extent but when it goes too high it just goes too high and I can't produce any voice at that point.
>>7070206
Respecting > reality
Don't do this
>>7070206
Kit is actually just a chaser. Stay the fuck away from them.
>>7070208
Having perfect pitch isn't a requisite for a good voice. Knowing when you're going higher is enough.
I find singing along to songs with female singers and trying to sing out, while not in falsetto helps a lot.
>>7070211
I'm just saying that I think you're all girls and just as valid as cis girls at that.
What's wrong with that?
>>7070212
She's best girl
>>7070218
Post pics of her please.
>>7070218
>I find singing along to songs with female singers and trying to sing out
You mean like several octaves below them? I'm not a singer though I don't think I got enough range to sing any songs, I tried to do some sing-along but it tends to go either too high or too low, do I just skip those parts?
>>7070227
Ah thanks for the band suggestion! I've had trouble finding stuff to sing along as the music I listen to rarely has more than a few lines of lyrics. I guess I'll keep trying and postpone becoming a mute : )
>>7070232
You're welcome!
It's definitely worth postponing being mute. I'm in the same position just feeling like it's impossible, but we'll get there
>>7070254
I would do anything to go back in time and choose a cool career path like that, don't stress.
>>7070254
>mfw I studied one of the humanties and ended up unemployed
Don't fret just because the old brain juices aren't flowing, anon.
Hello! What's going on today?
>>7070208
>Got mine from my mom
It's a feature of high T.
Look at FtM.
>>7070263
all the hons are killing themselves. why are you still here?
>>7070268
Maybe it's because I'm a fingolian and it's in our genes.
>>7070263
Shitposting and self-hatred.
Same as any other day.
>>7070263
We're all busy ignoring Sass.
>>7070271
Mongol blood courses thickly through your veins.
Also, tell taniapo to start making videos again.
>>7070263
Sass <3 <3 <3
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
>>7070254
I used to do graphic design freelance :p.
Mostly just cleaning up word files.
I dont get why bf has stayed with me this long
Im a bumb boy who really whants to be a girl
Ill never be a girl ill always be a fake
>home from work
>look and feel like death
How is mtfg today?
>>7070285
>I dont get why bf has stayed with me this long
Probably because he likes you and enjoys having sex with you.
I wouldn't worry too much, you pass better than most. Maybe he even prefers you as a boygirl.
drop the negative feels people
crying for yourself is silly in the scheme of things
I locked myself in a room and pitied myself for years and now my life is taking off and by January I will be fulltime. You don't like your life then change it. Hrt isn't going to solve everything.
>>7070291
Well i guess im gonna keep being his bf till i can pass
If i can pass
>>7070300
So much this. There's so much to do outside of medical stuff and life plans are important.
Also are you the actual Kayla? If so I remember you being a thing way back on 420chan.
>>7070303
yeah, I am believe it or not
>>7070306
Huh, well if that's true then I'm glad to hear stuff is going better for you now!
>>7070299
What'd I say? We're ignoring you.
>>7070263
Hi sass <3
I want to go shopping today for some more andro clothes but I'm scared
How are you?
>>7070309
yeah, I am actually getting gendered female now in full guy clothes so shit is looking up, plus I got promoted at work and electrolysis is now in its 2nd straight week of double sessions and by Christmas my beard will be history.
my mom is ranting at my social worker over the phone and this is making me anixosu
icant braethe right
help
>>7070320
Sounds great, glad it's working out for you.
>>7070300
Glad to read this from you. Makes me feel prodding you wasn't pointless.
>>7070178
/k/ordelia
>>7070320
> getting gendered female now in full guy clothes
PASSER GET OUT REEEEEE
>>7070357
what the fuck is that pham
>>7070362
domestic abuse
So I'm going on a date with that gay guy
I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to tell him I'm trans like, today
Before he gets any wrong ideas
This is the worst time of year. Girls walking around in cute jumper and boots and bags. I will never be one of them
>>7070362
hickeys desu
>>7070362
Good foreplay/sex
>>7070368
Get the FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD THEN YOU HOMOSEXUAL MALE.
>>7070369
>This is the worst time of year. Girls walking around in cute jumper and boots and bags. I blend in with them but will never feel like one
>>7070368
i wonder if I should date a gay guy?
>>7070369
iktf, i will be wearing oversized jackets and loose guy jeans like i always do
just kys my shit up, f a m
>>7070368
so right now he just thinks you're a beta cuck faggot?
>>7070375
> I blend in with them
fuck off boasting passer
i hate u
kys
reee
>>7070375
PASSERS GET OUT!!!!!!
OUT OUT OUT!!!
>>7070369
>tfw summer is over and girls have stopped wearing sandals
Nothing but shoes and boots until May now.
>>7070385
But I just got back >:
>>7070374
I'm a bisexual girl and I didn't want to come out to him via facebook messenger and he already asked me to hang out with him today so I'll tell him then and if he doesn't want to date me because I'm not a guy then I don't want to date him
I'm allowed to make friends and break gayboi hearts, I'm a bitch ~
A drunk guy just said hello beautiful to me while I'm wearing my all male work clothes
>>7070393
Fuck off potato nigger
>"getting gendered female now in full guy clothes"
>"I blend in with them"
>hickeys everywhere
reeeeee
>>7070370
KIWI. Please post some recent pics cutie! You are my favorite trip.
>>7070393
>all male work clothes
This is why healthcare is awesome, you get a cute uniform and the female one is clearly different to the male
>>7070393
i want to strangle you so bad
>>7070379
Well he's also called me beautiful so I'm pretty sure he thinks I'm a beautiful faggot
>tfw you need to go shower and shave your legs
;~~;
>>7070397
i don't really have any since moving to cali because ive been so busy lately
this is my most recent
FFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Which one of you keeps making these threads on /pol/?
>>>/pol/93319621
we hons should get together and beat up a passer tbqh
>>7070401
Actually once a guy told me I had a delicate neck, perfect for choking.
That was creepy
>>7070417
i'd beat the ever loving shit out of you tbqh
>>7070419
can u stop boasting already uhhhhhhh
i'd fucking end you you cheeky passer cunt i sware on me mum
I can't even come here anymore because we've got passers bragging and shoving it down my throat.
I beat myself every 2 days
I beat muh girly meat if u know what I mean
>>7070432
Awh that must be depressing. Care work is great but you have to do a lot of gross stuff. I don't really mind it though, start nursing at uni in February which I'm pretty hyped for.
>be browsing fb like a huge normie
>see my way better passing pre-everything ex tagged in a pic of their friend
>look at ex's face
>a wave of envy and dysphoria goes trough my flu-ridden body, making my knees tremble
Time for a nap, I'm tired of this
>>7070441
hi sass
>>7070439
i don't pass, I just look a bit girly from a distance
Sup nerds
>>7070439
>shoving it down my throat.
hot
>>7070451
Sup fag
>when bae intentionally touches your girltumor
ugh worst feel
>>7070450
I wasn't talking about you elliot
>>7070448
Yayyyyyy! Looks like u been having fun! Happy 4 u. :)
>>7070454
sup slut
>>7070465
i hate kiwi too if its any consolation
>>7070469
>David
>passing
Nice joke my dude
>>7070466
y-yea fun im super sleepy now cordi kept me up all night idk where she gets the energy.. im going to pass out in her car now while she's at work g'n
>>7070469
rude desu
>>7070467
Sup slave
>>7070472
Bully me kiwi!!
>>7070473
I'm dom i promise!
>>7070475
im gonna take a power nap and think on that one little chara
goodnight everyone <3
>>7070480
Sure you are
>>7070482
Sleep well kiwi.
>>7070484
Name 3 things not dom about me IF YOU CAN.
i just spent the last 8 hours in bed tripping hard af and i promised myself i would come on here and say ily to everyone when it was over, so here i am. my bed and covers are drenched in sweat and i spent a lot of time on forgiving myself and trying to accept that my body is in fact a girls body. i feel pretty good about everything. very exhausted.
Transsexuals are a Jewish conspiracy aimed at reducing the birth rate of the white man, along with pornography, video games and other distractions from child-rearing.
I don't blame any of you. You aren't soldiers, you are simply weapons (sexy weapons, but weapons nonetheless).
I don't hate you, you're just bad for us as a society.
>>7070445
Awh that's brilliant!!!
I'm not gonna be here much longer so I don't mind all that much for now. I can't wait to get out and go full time.
Explain yourselves
>>7070490
1. QUID
2. EMBER
3. MOUTHY
>>7070472
>rude desu
I can be rude to anyone that has life better then me senpai.
tfw sexy weapon
>>7070501
Guess you can't be rude to me then :)
>tfw you wake up and your prediction came true
>tfw you just want to be a grill
>>7070495
Always good to feel good.
>>7070500
Whateverrr.
>>7070506
I don't know how you can delude yourself into thinking you're even remotely attractive when you are subject to constant harassment irl.
>>7070509
yeah I can you fuck wit, you've been full time for like 4 years now
>>7070509
You are a disgrace of a human being apengie
>>7070499
i wanna die
thats about it
>>7070381
Yea i guess...
I'm going in to the JCPenny I used to work at so I know the store very well, that way im not so awkward looking around
The downside is possible old coworkers seeing me >>
I think it's gonna be fine though, I'm planning on getting another pair of girl jeans, some coverse or vans (since the only shoe I have right now is tennis shoes and work shoes) and maybe meander through and grab a top or two but I will see on that
>>7070495
tripping on what?
>>7070513
you too, anon. i love you, you butthole.
>>7070515
>4 years
Nigga what?
>>7070518
I know bro
Need that southern gentlemen to smash a brick over my skull
>>7070528
>that blind delusion
oh boy
When alt-right trannies complain about not being able to pass it makes me think that perhaps there really is justice in this world.
Am I going to be outed to my parents by an insurance bill? I don't understand how that shit works desu. I'm (obviously) not out and I'm not sure if they're going to get a bill that says GIRL PILLS on it at the end of the month.
inb4 underage i'm a 21 year old hon
>>7070513
They get harassed in real life because some anons recognise that they're a problem, but they're going about it in the wrong way.
The best thing to do is simply to try and abstain from sexual relationships with MTFs. You don't want to turn them against you by instigating physical violence, because then you simply make another enemy.
>56 Tabs x 50mg of Androcur is € 88.38
>56 Tabs x 50mg of Cyproterone is € 56.41
Is there any difference?
>>7070552
What the fuck are you talking about
>>7070561
The trans conspiracy and the best way to resist it.
What are you talking about?
who /pinnacle of masculinity/ here?
>>7070576
>this guy hangs out with trannies
What a laugh lads
Good morning everyone
>>7070578
me
>>7070581
They keep posting threads on /pol/, pushing their agenda.
>>7070584
Well it apparently worked because we recruited you.
>>7070578
me
I am all that is man
>tfw sugardaddy flew me to venice
transgender thug life yall
im bored Cx
>>7070592
what a specimen. I can only imagine the women all throwing themselves at you and the men being insanely jealous.
>>7070584
>thinking trannies are organised enough to have an agenda
>>7070587
I'm just here to talk and see what's going on. I'm not trans, just a straight male.
>>7070604
Don't act like you're not working with the jews.
>>7070584
That's probably another /pol/ack trolling you with muh degeneracy. You fucks are triggered more easily than tumblr.
>>7070604
Lold
>>7070604
Maybe not consciously, but most MTFs want to be pampered and form loving relationships with straight males.
>>7070067
i feel this way
it's why ima applying as a an to new jobs
also
apparently i lost 20lbs & it stole face fat so i pass way less irl now.
>i dont really eat much b/c depression. average food for day is a yogurt, a banana, and maybe some chicken or a burger for dinner... or nothing at all if i dont feel like it
my bones show
YAY FOR BEING MEN FULl OF E
>tfw no one to play EDH with
comon i just wanna nerd out
i havent nerded out in 6 months
>>7070596
is that him standing next to you?
either he's a LITERAL midget or you're an amazon
>>7070616
Holy shit it's a conspiracy!
>>7070611
Same
>>7070613
Maybe you're right, I don't know anymore.
It feels like things get more and more ridiculous each year.
>>7070620
yez were the same height lol im 5'7
>>7070518
>apengie
You do know my name isn't Angie anymore, right?
How do i get a sugar daddy to fly me to Venice??
>>7070551
pls respond
>>7070592
omg.. i bought the same set of push ups off amazon.
the underwire starts to hurt really fucking bad after 8 hours tho
>>7070629
>fingo
What country are you from, anon?
>>7070641
Woops, accidentally copied a word from another thread somehow
i wish angie would be my waifu (-‿◦)
Do MTFs want families one day?
>>7070643
Sure it wasn't from "fingolian" from my post earlier?
Also why are you calling a tripfag anon, anon?
>>7070496
If it makes you feel any better I wouldn't have gotten kids regardless.
>>7070665
yes i do
is it possible to adopt anime kids?
>>7070665
I just want animals
>>7070665
part of me does and the other part knows most married people with kids are miserable
>>7070669
>Also why are you calling a tripfag anon, anon?
I'm just retarded.
Actually it was "fingolian", but it was a thread from /int/
Ow I just slammed my finger in my cupboard by accident
>tfw not tricking straight men into sleeping with you right now
>>7070665
It would be nice
>>7070678
>>tfw not tricking straight men into sleeping with you right now
I KNEW IT
>>7070677
Ow :c
>>7070676
That's pretty neat, what's up in /int/?
>>7070677
I tore off half of my toenail.
>>7070678
I too have this fantasy even though I'm a virgin in a happy monogamous transbian relationship ;__;
I don't like my brain.
>>7070681
Hey, wanna have sex?
>>7070658
I can be your husbando instead
>>7070688
(︶︹︺) youre too cute
>>7070685
>That's pretty neat, what's up in /int/?
Too many generals these days. People call /int/ "/pol/-lite" but it's moving in the opposite direction. All the transthread and homo anime posting is met with mostly positive reception.
>>7070686
No, you won't get me. I'm aware of the problem and I resist it.
>>7070665
Yeah, but I'd want biological kids, so it's not gonna happen.
>Captcha
I want srs more then humanly possible, just knowing people who post here had it done gives me actual major anxiety.
>>7070696
>you won't get me
>mfw anon thinks trannies are like the boogyman
>>7070696
Sounds mostly healthy considering what an echo chamber /pol/ is. If you took out the buzzwords you couldn't tell it apart from tumblr, butthurt outrage and boogeymen everywhere.
>>7070695
Nah I've always known I need myself a girl for life. Estrogen just makes me crave for male attention even though I'm not nearly pretty enough to get the kind of attention I want :P
>>7070699
I don't have it and wont have it for a while. I know your feel
>>7070695
;~;
How to feel like a woman?
>>7070700
There's a grain of truth in it though, right? Don't all MTFs target straight males?
>tfw look down and see a wolf spider on the floor od the shower.
>>7070703
>I know your feel
I dunno if you do. Like when I imagine someone here having it I get a rapid heart rate, sweat, and I get angry, afraid, and sullen.
>>7070699
But..
Your balls..
>>7070706
I target straight women.
>>7070710
eat it
>>7070711
Trust me I know the feel. It's gut-wrenching
>>7070672
There are transpeople in Guatemala? Who would have known it.
>>7070699
>killing miss cock
>>7070704
Go out there, live as one, call yourself one. Eventually it really doesn't seem like a stretch to say you're a woman.
>>7070706
... No?
Hell the joke goes that most trans women are transbians.
>>7070714
me too.
>>7070694
>cute
I needed a laugh
>>7070699
You won't get it :)
>>7070719
She's already dead, srs would be burying her corpse.
>>7070710
Grab showerhead and see how well it performs in hurricane conditions.
>>7070706
I """target""" cute guys and the gay ones don't seem to like me
>>7070703
>Sounds mostly healthy considering what an echo chamber /pol/ is.
It's true, it is a bit of an echo chamber. That's why it's important to visit more left-leaning places at times. Still, there's lots of information on there, and whenever something happens, you can count on there being a thread about it within seconds.
>>7070704
Watch the new Bridget Jones movie?
Bitches love Bridget Jones movies.
>>7070727
I did. It just curled up after a bit.
>>7070725
i think youre cute (
>>7070706
I just received orders from white genocide HQ, the jews want me to seduce you by dinnertime so like are you ready to come to bed yet?
>>7070723
>Hell the joke goes that most trans women are transbians.
Really? That isn't the """joke""" elsewhere.
I just kind of assumed that all MTFs were gay (in that they like men).
>>7070734
That's understandable I'd probably do the same. I hate it when it's raining.
>>7070730
Why would gay guys like you if you look like a girl?
>>7070738
Well among trans women that's the joke. Then we all accuse each other of being AGP and the TERFs accuse us of just being straight men and so on...
just you white genocide guys are invested in seeing us as straight as circumstancial evidence to confirm your conspiracy theories.
>>7070742
Idk, but straight guys seem to like that part. Maybe it's not that trannies target straight men, but that straight men like girl shaped people with holes.
>>7070744
Living isn't a goalpost though, it's a thing you do for a while and eventually things start to feel normal.
>>7070717
okay, cool to know i'm not the only one living with this.
Tfw being a boy amd getting a pedicure
>>7070735
This is blind...isn't it?
>>7070753
yes
Why are most transgirls lesbians?
I just want a cute trans gf.
>>7070748
I don't know how to live I guess.
I segment things. Everything is "ok I just get through x amount of time" or "ok I just need to get to this point"
>>7070748
>holes
A hole. Singular.
>>7070757
fuck off chaser
>>7070762
>not appreciating variety
>>7070751
I'll keep suffering once you get yourself fixed :P
>>7070731
Sure, I like to check on /pol/ whenever there's a habeding too but visiting it regularly is just a surefire way to lose faith in humanity. The board was a good idea at start but things went horribly wrong when people started taking it too seriously, kind of like MLP which was supposed to be just trolling and parodying /a/ and /jp/ and we all know how that turned out.
>>7070757
We all got cocklust burning inside us, don't worry.
>>7070756
Well hi
How are you?
>>7070747
>just you white genocide guys are invested in seeing us as straight as circumstancial evidence to confirm your conspiracy theories.
I'm not saying there's a conspiracy theory, I'm just saying it's all a little bit suspicious and bears investigating.
It's okay to like girls, anon.
>>7070764
What variety? You have 50% less holes on average.
>>7070767
hi. i got glasses, how are you? how is pedicure?
>>7070762
>singular
Oh boy, we shud fug, I like showing people new things
>wake up
>tits are burning and hurt
>>7070772
My feet are still soaking
I'm pretty bad
Pretty
Much socially detransed
>>7070769
>I'm not saying there's a conspiracy theory, I'm just saying it's all a little bit suspicious and bears investigating.
Lets assume most mtfs are into guys, how is that suspicious given that they identify as women, and most women are into men.
>>7070779
sounds comfyy
sorry its bad x.x wish i could hlep in some way.
STOP
post what you are listening to rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JlLTNt6gs&list=RDp6JlLTNt6gs
>>7070748
>Idk, but straight guys seem to like that part. Maybe it's not that trannies target straight men, but that straight men like girl shaped people with holes.
Most straight men are at the very least interested in the idea of girls with penises. Studies have even shown that when straight men watch porn with penises in it, they have higher rates of arousal.
It's strange to think that someone can be an MTF and still be into girls instead of men.
>>7070769
>I'm not saying there's a conspiracy theory, I'm just saying it's all a little bit suspicious and bears investigating.
I love this line, it's a classic.
>>7070781
It's not bad
I pretty much stopped socially because if I don't look female, then I don't deserve to be one
>>7070778
Wow someone really pushed up the breast slider
>>7070780
>Lets assume most mtfs are into guys, how is that suspicious given that they identify as women, and most women are into men.
That's not the suspicious part.
The suspicious part is that they're suddenly receiving so much positive attention and promotion - in real life, in the MSM and even on places like 4chan where you see more and more trans threads by the day.
watching haikyuu is making me feel funny things
halp
>>7070774
Let's not. I watched too much horror movies.
>>7070790
same boat as me except i think youre beautiful so eh im biased. hmm it'll be snowy there soon again huh
>>7070790
AYYYYE
XD
>>7070792
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
Why does getting catcalled make me feel dirty and like it's my fault?
>>7070784
That's hella gay
>>7070803
any snow is snow. i want to see the nsow.
>>7070799
tfw no breast slider in real life
>>7070766
>Sure, I like to check on /pol/ whenever there's a habeding too but visiting it regularly is just a surefire way to lose faith in humanity. The board was a good idea at start but things went horribly wrong when people started taking it too seriously, kind of like MLP which was supposed to be just trolling and parodying /a/ and /jp/ and we all know how that turned out.
Just ignore the stormweenie threads it's not so bad. It's a good place to check through the batches of wikileaks emails and share interesting things.
>>7070790
>nail polish at the ready
>not presenting
oh fuck off angie, I bet you are gonna walk out wearing those disposable foam sandals so the color doesn't smudge.
>>7070806
iktf
id abuse it
>>7070793
How is that suspicious, constant fight for minority equality and acceptance has been a thing for decades.
Especially since the whole gay rights thing has been going on for a while.
>>7070802
No, no, it's not gay at all.
If it were gay to like MTFs, then surely gay people would like them too? Besides, you all see yourselves as girls.
>>7070796
I watched this and felt envy for the guy who lost his dick in the end
>>7070809
My name is LEE and boys can wear nail
Polish
>>7070815
Gay people sure liked me, it'd piss me off. I'd be all thinking "no, not until you re-evaluate your sexuality"
>>7070815
I'm not a girl. I'm a straight guy who got duped into transitioning by the promise of wilder sex opportunities.
>>7070816
>>7070820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-nd34iAK9Y
>>7070818
If boys can wear nail polish then why can't I?
>>7070806
id have some mega milks for sure
>>7070823
I don't know bro
>>7070814
>Especially since the whole gay rights thing has been going on for a while.
What if it all started with the gay rights movement?
Besides, being gay and being trans are completely different things. Gay people just have sex with people of the same gender, whereas being trans requires you to put things into your body to alter it and sometimes have surgery too.
>>7070806
I was reading a joujin about breast sliders the other day...
>>7070815
I'm not being serious, I'm referencing that brad copypasta.
Also, real talk, I obviously see myself as a girl now, but I still do at least in part see myself as a turbocharged faggot.
>>7070832
You should uh
Share that
For science
>>7070790
You have cute feet, anon.
>>7070832
>tfw flat enough that i can wear a tee with out people noticing my boobs
>>7070846
>tfw just a boy with a big butt
>>7070849
>tfw just a boy
>>7070842
>My size 9 in women's is HUGE
lol literally cis tier
>>7070842
People get too hung up on size. It's more important that they're soft and look feminine.
>>7070849
>tfw just a boy with long hair
>>7070855
>cis tier
Mfw
Next you're going to say that wearing a women's medium is ok :^)
>>7070831
They're connected because they both go against gender norms.
If anything it started with race equality You think it's weird for a generation brought up to accept what's different to continue to support increasingly small minorities?
>>7070855
>tfw just
>>7070856
I try to to take care of my skin to the best of my abilities
>>7070833
>Also, real talk, I obviously see myself as a girl now, but I still do at least in part see myself as a turbocharged faggot.
We can always just round it up to make it not gay anyway.
Like, if something is say 80% straight and 20% gay, that rounds up to being straight.
>>7070862
>tfw
>>7070859
better than wearing women's large and it being too smol still
>>7070835
For science!
Nsfw:
>http://g.e-hentai.org/s/653cbbb6c7/977679-1
>>7070849
>tfw ur a boy with a butt on his chest
>>7070869
fuck why do I have to leave for work in a few minutes
and why do i have to work all day
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>reading smut webcomic
>latest page is the one before a sex scene
fuuuug just update already
>>7070863
You should post more feet pics when you're done. That would be kind of cool.
>be a tranny agent for the secret cabal of jews plotting white genocide
>HQ contacts you, you're to seduce a high profile white nationalist today. Nothing can go wrong.
>You giggle and assure them nothing can go wrong.
>You playfully bounce over the mark taking great effort to make sure your hormone induced boobs are jiggling to the jewish calculated ratio of perfect trans attraction.
>"Hey anon-kun!" You say, standing with your legs together bent over. "You like what you see?" You lift your shirt to show them your jewish made boobs.
>Anon-kun is mesmerised. You have them now. You lift your skirt. "You see this? See it sway? You like these now. This is what you are now."
>Anon-kun repeats
>"You love trannies, you love blacks, you love jews"
>Anon-kun repeats
>you put your arm around him and lead him back to your high-class jewish-funded apartment, winking and showing thumbs up to a nearby security camera
>>7070877
Sorry. You did ask for it.
Btw, you're inspiring me to ask my mom what she would've named me as a girl.
tits are the best, but only if they are yours
>>7070895
Agreed, my tits are pretty perky
>>7070860
That's a fair defence.
But it's worth looking at it in the context of other narratives as well, like the European migrant crisis and declining birthrates across the globe. Maybe you're right and it's nothing - but what if it's something?
>>7070895
Other girls are fine too
>>7070865
I agree
That's usually what I do desu. Incidentally the 80-20 ratio is about how I feel I fall on the girl-faggot scale anyways, 80% girl, 20% extremely gay male. I just round up to girl.
>>7070895
hahah my boobs are gross af pham
;~;
>>7070895
I get that gut-wrench from boob envy too, thanks a lot.
16 months in waiting to fill the A-cup just what the fuck.
>>7070885
continue
>>7070900
>but what if it's something
What if Thoth the Atlantean is real and we're all descended from ancient lemurians who forgot the true extent of our psychic powers and the elites are keeping us mentally inert with mindnumbing things like television, the internet and a seemingly hopeless political situation?
>>7070762
Mouth, asshole. Trans women have two fuckable holes.
>>7070885
Y-you almost make it sound silly.
>>7070885
>>7070905
30 month A cup life
being flat is more /fa/ tho so I'm happy
>>7070905
boobs are easily changed, go chew on these
>>7070918
Where can I order those? Googling the name just gave me weird as fuck results. Have you tried those? Do they work?
>>7070900
I think the odds of something being organized at such large scale, is unlikely. That's about it.
>>7070922
amazon, works but you will lactate if you take enough
>>7070916
4 month a-cup, what's up?
>>7070908
>What if Thoth the Atlantean is real and we're all descended from ancient lemurians who forgot the true extent of our psychic powers and the elites are keeping us mentally inert with mindnumbing things like television, the internet and a seemingly hopeless political situation?
You can go as silly as you want, but it's complacency that will kill us all in the end. There is no disadvantage to remaining vigilant.
Lots of civilians and Wehrmacht soldiers in Germany during WWII thought that the mass extermination of Jews was a baseless conspiracy until the evidence was uncovered at the end of the war. It was just whispers to a lot of people before then.
Have you ever been to antarctica?
Then how do you know the ice wall isn't real?
The suez canal people look it up
Flat Earth forever.
>>7070926
You need to get phat.
Ok girl I did a fuck-up
>Meet with my best friend at her house. She let me know that her bf will join us soon.
>I like her. She is like the only person who treat me like a cis girl and I feel extremely comfortable around her.
>Her bf joins us we start drinking
>We drink really hard stuff
>We talk about shit and laughing
>Her bf start getting into me
>While hugging he start saying nice things about my butt, breasts and hands
>Don't want. He looks ok but his gf is right in front of us
>I drink even more because this whole situation is uncomfortable
>Too much. Can't move start shaking but still laughing
>The fucker kissed me in the mouth
>His gf got annoyed
>Loss of consciousness
>Wake up in my own pukes, don't remember anything it's 3 AM. I hear my friend is crying in another room
>Morning, the worst alcohol poisoning that I ever had puked at least 7 times.
I really don't know how angry she is at me. She didn't show it. I don't want to loose her. What should I do?
>>7070903
How do transpeople enter into relationships anyway? Isn't it difficult when lots of hyper-straight people wouldn't want to date you because of the whole penis thingy? Do they rely on online dating for it?
Hanging around this thread really isn't healthy for me.
...but I don't want to leave.
>>7070937
I mean, she was there for the whole thing, she most likely saw it was her bf that was coming onto you and not vise versa.
Call her and talk about it, let her know that you feel bad about it regardless.
>>7070944
same. I'm at the point though where I only come back every few weeks.
>>7070937
Learn to control yourself and not turn to excesses of alcohol like a horrible ape creature.
>>7070928
comparing industrialised killing to whatever it is you feel you hav to be vigilant against is kind of a false equivalency.
"Remaining vigilant" in that circumstance is kind of putting all your eggs in one basket.
It's the desperate words of someone trying to convince themself something they have begun to invest their identity in is not worthless.
>>7070925
>This item does not ship to Finland. Please check other sellers who may ship internationally. (none)
And there it goes. Fuck my life yet again.
>>7070937
lol
actions have consequences, you should have left when he was getting touchy feely
i can't sleep it's too hot in this car fuuuuug
>>7070959
Fann Kiwi
>>7070937
Tfw I'll never be pretty like nikky
>>7070948
I mean she is ok with this whole threesome thing but without showing affection. And he did just that. My friend is really self concious about her look so when he started giving me complements.
>Your ass is so big
>You smell so nice, oh my god
>Your nails are amazing
She is a very beautiful girl - I mean her hips are AMAZING. But she got hurt.
We were all drunk.
>>7070952
You're mean, anon.
But I guess you make a little bit of sense.
>>7070937
Bleh. It sounds bad. Give it couple of days for her to collect her thoughts and then talk to her.
Boyfriend will probably try to blame you. She'll need time to see her boyfriend is an asshole.
Just try to be truthful without blaming anyone, and don't blame yourself. When speaking with her focus on your friendship and how much it means to you and how you could never betray it don't focus on what happened or didn't happen or what could have happened
>>7070951
>dam hrt worked FAST
Ahahahah, nooooo
I am loving my breasts though, they might be close to a B by December
>>7070957
I was already too drunk to leave.
>>7070941
They enter them through the same ways as cis girls, and often have to deal with rejection. It's one part of why I don't really date right now (self image issues aside), too much other shit going on in my life to deal with the number of people that will just flatly turn you away when you tell them that you're trans.
>>7070964
ty I turned on the ac but now I have to pee ;;
>>7070969
>Just try to be truthful without blaming anyone, and don't blame yourself. When speaking with her focus on your friendship and how much it means to you and how you could never betray it don't focus on what happened or didn't happen or what could have happened
Best advice. Thank you Sass I'll do just that.
>>7070557
Androcur is the brand-name, Cyproterone is generic
>The major difference between a brand-name pharmaceutical and its generic counterpart is neither chemistry nor quality, but whether the drug is still under patent protection by the company that initially developed it.
source: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/whats-the-difference-betw-2004-12-13/
Conclusion: get generic because it's cheaper and there's no difference
>>7070966
Huh, I didn't see you mention anything about a threesome.
I thought it was just you hanging out. This seems more confusing now.
Is she just upset because he was TOO into you?
I thought I was ready to come back here but I got no voice and I got no breasts so I better fuck off because I can't compare to any of you and I'm a total failure. See you sometime in the future maybe.
>>7070947
>Tiny body type
Yeah it's very pretty, but to my knowledge big boobs and skinny body are like ultra lottery luck, you have to gain some weight to get big ass/tits. Not like a fat bastard, but just some weight.
selfmeddling may be the most rebellious thing I'll ever do, I usually tell my parents everything desu
In other news: i'm sick and weak i feel like i'm gonna faint
>>7070986
I don't have those either desu
>>7070975
you could have left the room and locked yourself in the bathroom to let him cool off
I know what he did was wrong and gross but you have to know how to react the right way to that shit inebriated or not
>>7070970
honestly it does work much faster than you think! I looked at a picture from when I was 5 months hrt and compared it to before I started, and I looked crazy different, even though at the time I felt like I hadn't changed at all
>>7070984
Yes, he showed to much affection and he kissed me.
>>7070980
Good luck Nikki!
Take care and try to remain positive. :3
>>7070990
That is very stupid thing to do. But maybe this situation required it.
I just want to end myself
>>7070990
Genuinely, the right way to react to it was not to get that deep into the bottle in the first place. Alcohol makes everyone act without restraint. It's what the shit does. Unless you can afford it or are genuinely looking to do the gross hedo thing where you just fuck and vomit on everyone in the room, you need to exercise self control and better judgement.
>>7070981
Oh i see, thank you very much!
Why would anyone buy androcur then?
>>7070999
Don't blame yourself or play the "I should have" game.
The fact is, what's done is done, and the only thing you can control is how you react now.
I know it's hard not to. Try to do aome exercise or watch tv to get it off of your mind. :3
Math problems are awesome when dealing with emotional stuff.
>>7071009
Bleh I'll just play with photoshop it is relaxing thing to do.
>>7071013
And most of all, pay no mind to the people who try to suggest it was somehow your fault.
It wasn't. Have fun with photoshop ;)
>>7071006
>>Why would anyone buy androcur then?
i'm not sure, perhaps the patent lasts longer is other countries?
>>7071003
it's difficult but not at all impossible. my bf and I are long distance though, and we knew each other before I transitioned so I guess my experience is different.
I've also been living the femboy life irl so I'm not getting hit on by guys face to face either
>>7071005
my acne cleared up very quickly on hrt (not that it was bad to begin with, but since starting transition I haven't had a single new pimple). seems like skin is the first noticeable change for most people
you're not still living with your mom, are you?
>>7071014
It may sound bad, but I'm glad I'm not alone. It just feels bad, man ;-; esp since my dad is a doctor himself
>>7071018
Sass you know you were talking about taking estrogen all at once for the circadian rhythm and stuff, when do you reckon is the best time of day to consistently take it?
I'm sick of getting migraines.
>>7071017
>She was partly to blame
1. I didn't know you were an expert on human conflict and resolution. What thought process led you to this conclusion? What is your basis for unequivocally placing part of the blame on Nikki, and what percentage would you assign to her.
2. How is this helpful?
3. What are you trying to prove?
>>7071014
>"Don't Forget: You're Here Forever"
Better get working out again, then. Sigh.
Why do some women don't know how to dress themselves?
Fuck this place.
I've been trying the past two weeks to try connecting with conversation and stuff here.
Its really hard.
I can't.
I feel like I'm in the same mindset of prehrt at this point.
I can't connect to cis or trans girls at all. And boys are weirded out by me.
I feel less human than normal. Not even a tranny anymore.
And this is the 3rd week in a row of thinking about dropping everything, ditching my life, and going off the grid permanently b/c I can't relate to anyone anymore. Trans or not. I've increasingly developed the feeling of being an entity unto my own.
I've a job interview in 2 hours... Going as a guy and layering with a double-pocketed shirt to his tits. Worst bit is I'm apathetic about even that.
Idk..
I guess this is the final so-long /mtfg/. Not out of anger or dysphoria. I just can't relate here anymore.... This time its just plain ol apathy.
If I do get the job, I might drop in with update pics of me as a guy for the luls.
However, it was nice having a little community to reflect in for a while.
Thanks everyone.
>>7071041
see you in like a couple of weeks
>>7071041
You got to be deep in the autism to relate to anyone here
>>7071034
What leads you to believe your estrogen give you migraines?
I would say first thing in the morning or last thing before you go to sleep. But I'm not sure if there's an advantage of one over the other. The important thing is to plan it so as to not forget when you're taking it. :)
>>7071041
>I feel less human than normal. Not even a tranny anymore.
Can always shed your human skin and raise your tentacles towards the heavens, bonelessly genuflecting in adoration of the old ones.
>>7071041
Good luck with your interview, anon.
I hope that strange feeling passes and you come back. Sometimes taking a break from this place for a while is for the best.
I'm sorry I said weird and disturbing things
I just came here to be friends but I'm having a bad mental time. I love you all. I just hope you're all doing right
>>7071041
i think if you have to try too hard to relate to any place you're doing it wrong.
Idk what to even give as advice desu, I've never really given conscious thought to something like that
>>7071056
I want to be a femboi just like you red :3
>>7071041
>>7071052
To be totally serious, though. That sounds like depression-induced seclusion. Don't do that. Becoming a shut-in doesn't help. At all. Trust me.
>>7071056
I was really hurt with your racist musings.
I thought you were different. I don't even believe you love us all.
I hope you do get help for your bad mental time and try to get off drugs while you regain mental clarity .
>>7071052
best thing i have ever heard
I found a site from my country on which they sell 'anabolics' but they also carry Aldactone, which as they say has anti-androgenic qualities
Should I look into it or should I just stick to QHI for selfmeddling in the EU
I'm just trying to keep my options open
even just sitting in cordis car for 8 hours while she works is more enjoyable than when I was at home in new york, how silly is that
>>7071050
I think it definitely has an effect on whether i get migraines.
I did get migraines before estrogen, but after starting HRT I started getting auras/blindspots with them.
My mum used to get a lot of migraines but doesn't as much any more since she's going through menopause, and her doctor refuses her HRT because of migraines Which is funny in an ironic way.
Recently I took them before bed for a while and then switched to early on. I've done that twice and i'm not certain but I think that's what's triggering migraines.
>>7071056
Hey you cute :3 !!
>>7071053
>>7071052
>>7071049
>>7071047
>>7071045
>>7071058
Everyone is missing the point.
I feel like this IRL as well.
I've been lurking the past few weeks, most times I won't post for 3 threads or more. I'm always here...
It all seems fruitless now b/c I've realized the feeling of apathy for other humans is extended to this place.
Again, this isn't out of anger. I'm just straight up apathetic towards any/everyone at this point.
Like a "I Dont feel human" feel but it has nothing to do with gender or being able to reproduce. I can't even relate to trannies anymore
I've even thought of maybe skyping but I'd have literally nothing to talk about.
Again... All of this extends into real life
>>7071058
Hai
Bai
>>7071070
Why are you sitting in a car for 8 hours?
>>7071041
What's going on valq? You can always chat with me via skype.
Connecting on 4chan is hard and.most of thw time BS.
Take care and good luck. :3
>>7071075
her mom forgot to turn off the child safety locks so she's trapped
>>7071075
because she's at work and her parents don't feel comfy with someone outside of their family staying there while she's gone
>>7071080
LOL
Good evening, anons.
In the past couple of days we've touched on topics both sensitive and trivial. You've all been doing very well and I think we've all been enjoying the frank and open dialogues we've been having. In preparation for some upcoming field work I'm planning to perform, I'd like to ask you some questions relating to key moments in your lives.
How old were you when you first realised you were trans (roughly, or specifically)? How old were you when you first "came out"? Who did you first tell?
>>7071081
That sounds extremely boring
>>7071074
See >>7071062
It's depression. Fight it. It's a self-destructive drive. If you need to seek help for it, do so.
>>7071080
this actually
i hope i get a job soon so i have something to do
>>7071086
it's a little boring but i have a smartphone so it's not all bad
and it's exciting looking forward to her 3 breaks during her shift cause she comes out to the car and we talk and it's nice
Went to work high as a kite
Shitttttt
Lmao I'm gone
I think tom waits called me
>>7070067
basic at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070082
shakira serving the food, having to watch everyone else have a good time
>>7070085
neptune at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070102
puru at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070117
emily at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070160
carol at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070200
flannel at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070256
kayla serving the food, having to watch everyone else have a good time
>>7070263
sass at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070285
elanna at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070288
lissy at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070356
cfh at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070357
kiwi at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070362
lucy at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070368
myna at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070446
sish at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070451
chara at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070454
ember at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070511
pleb at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070528
beepbeep at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070617
valq at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070671
cassidy at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070677
jin at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070778
grace at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070876
charlotte at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7071067
stick to QHI
>>7071070
not at all silly, you're with someone. Doing something boring together with someone you like is a lot better than doing something you're kinda ok with.
I know you're not directly with her, but she knows you're waiting for her and that's probably worth it.
>>7071081
you could take a walk perhaps
>>7071074
that kinda sounds like depression. I wish you well even though we've never spoken a lot to each other.
>>7071085
I knew i was kinda weird since i was really young. I felt like girl in weird ways (was never interested in playing with my penis, wanted to have a vagina since i was very young). This feeling of being "weird" intesified later on in puberty and even more the past few years, but i only recently put all the pieces of the puzzle together and put a label to it (im 22).
>>7071094
you should check into rehab
you have a problem
>>7071041
Hi valq I love you it's redddd
>>7070964
alice at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7070981
sertii at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7071014
ambiance at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>>7071056
red serving the food, having to watch everyone else have a good time
>>7071075
riven at an elegant banquet with all the food they could ever eat
>bf eating icecream
>tell him im jealous of his icecream
>he sends me this
>>7071093
You should like play pokemon go and walk around catching them all. :3
>>7071097
i could but im in my pjs and i have a mini bed set up in her back seat so im comfy
>>7071106
Red lives to serve
>>7071112
Pokemon go is dead
That game died very quickly
>>7071097
>I knew i was kinda weird since i was really young. I felt like girl in weird ways (was never interested in playing with my penis, wanted to have a vagina since i was very young). This feeling of being "weird" intesified later on in puberty and even more the past few years, but i only recently put all the pieces of the puzzle together and put a label to it (im 22).
Interesting - so it was just this kind of weird feeling you couldn't put a name to for a long time?
Are you "out" to anyone yet?
>>7071105
Hi
Ilu
>>7071097
>>7071087
>>7071078
>>7071062
It probably does have to do with depression...
Probably also why I Dont really eat until I start to get dizzy & a headache anymore. I Dont eat when I'm sad and I've lost 20lbs in the last couple weeks.
I Dont drink or smoke anymore.
And people in general are annoying.
Probably is depression but its not like I really have a solution for any of it atm.
>>7071118
we're saving up enough to get an apartment together with like 2 of her guy friends
i kinda need to find a job semi quickly so i can start saving desu
>>7071085
>How old were you when you first realised you were trans (roughly, or specifically)? How old were you when you first "came out"? Who did you first tell?
This is a ridiculously hard question to answer.
The first time I ever considered myself to be a girl I remember was like 4. I always knew "sex changes" existed and I always knew I would get one at some point. I'd tell me mum I was a girl but I think she just took it as an ongoing joke.
When I was 16 I told my mum and everyone I liked wear girls clothes but not about trans stuff. I once brought the subject up to her and she told me that people who transition are frequently still unhappy afterwards.
When I was 19 I was somewhat well known triptroll on /v/ and in a few msn chat groups. and there was this other tripfag called lolschaatser who was trans. Through talking to her I realised that I had to transition as soon as possible because the longer before HRT the worse result you get. I was also one 420chan at the time and got self-medding info there, ordered them, started taking them and told everyone I was trans about 6 months later.
I don't know which time counts as first coming out.
>>7071124
>About 3-4 years ago when I got a punctured tire on my bike and I had to walk home. Finally had a chance to think about stuff.
Am I correct in assuming you had suspicions before then?
>Last new year, to my mom.
Did you ever tell any of your friends, or you were worried it might change the dynamic and you'd end up losing them?
>>7071085
I knew senior year of high school (first time I could put a label on my feelings), so 17
Came out at 21 to my closest friend and my therapist
>>7071026
Yeah, it blows. My mom is super liberal and would be fine with me being trans, but actually telling her is way harder than keeping it a secret, even though not telling her is really eating away at me. I'll talk to her about anything, and since we're pretty identical people she can empathize with and relate to any of my struggles.
>>7071085
I try not to analyze my past anymore but I think I realized what trans was when I was 10 or 11, susans cucked me out of telling my mom and getting to be a young transitioner. but I knew I wanted to be a girl before then, I just didn't know what that meant
then I had a mental breakdown when I was 21 and came out to my mom and dad, then had a near death experience like a month later and said "eff it, I'll transition"
>>7071129
Interesting dynamic good luck
>>7071145
ty im excited to see what happens desu
every day feels new and exciting
regardless of how corny that sounds
>>7071131
So your "coming out" was staggered over the course of a few years then?
I always pictured it as being sort of a sudden confession with a clear life before/after that moment, but that seems not to be the case.
Are you fully out to everyone now then, i.e. you introduce yourself as a girl to people and don't go by your old male name anymore?
>>7071140
*You are. Also used to steal my moms clothes when I was smol.
I always thought there was something that was just.. not... right. Due to intense bullying everywhere and group pressure at school, I never gave it much thought, this is why it struck me that time when i walked home.
*I trust my mom very much as I had also come out as gay a few years before. My mom is very open minded and only wants me to be happy. Her twin sister is married to a woman, so she's used to stuff being non-conservative.
*Most of my friends at the time of coming out to my mom were massive weebs, all very open-minded though. Told this one girl I trusted I was maybe considering it but nothing after that, she probably knows by now as she follows me on tumblr.
>tfw you're going to miss erping with sweet femboi boipuccy when transitioning
Omggggg
Femboi boipuccy is sooo sweet and they need a real man to pound them nightly omg.
>>7071160
I lost interest in it.
Niantic ruined it
>>7071153
I kinda compare it to dipping my toe in the pool and testing the waters.
People could maybe handle that a guy likes to wear girls clothes because "they look good and there's more variety" over "wants to take HRT and get surgery to become a girl"
my wall of repression was paper thin. More like procrastination than repression. It seemed like dealing with how other people would react would be a hassle.
I've been fully out and full time for 4 and a half years.
>>7071160
unfortunately it doesn't pay the bills ;; starving artist desu
too many people pirated my music off of zshare, torrents and lo quality youtube rips :sob:
>>7071113
>not walking around in your pjs without giving a fuck
>>7071106
>tfw im hungry and read this
>>7071124
weet niet voor wat maar geen dank :3
>>7071125
Kinda, it's hard to describe. Something felt "off" and it always manifested itself in weird ways. I wondered if i was gay because i was just different compared to other boys, and this started manifesting itself later on during puberty. I didn't really act girly, just different. The fact that i only found out trans people were a thing and transitioning and HRT was a thing when i moved to the netherlands at age 18 kinda helped with me not knowing wtf was wrong with me.
I came out to my younger sister who's studying to be an doctor. I chose her partly for that reason, she sees a lot of things so she's kinda understanding of weirdness. Also i kinda lashed out to her (sometimes violently) during our early years, and i realized it might have been due to repressed jealousy so i felt i owed that to her.
Also my only friend who's either not Greek or Turkish, he also knows some gay people so i thought he would be more accepting. I guess my mom comes next.
The hardest will be telling my dad and my grandmother from his side. My dad because I think he's always seen me as his son (in a father/son bro way) and i don't think he's ever suspected im different. My grandmother because i really care about her but she's old and Greek and Greece is kinda behind on trans issues compared to the netherlands where i live now so she'll probably not even understand what im telling her. That will be really cringey
>>7071128
you should probably seek some sort of help. I don't really know how to help you otherwise.
>>7071151
it's not corny at all lol. Starting a new life with people you love is one of the best feelings in life.
>>7071155
your mom sounds awesome lol
>>7071171
That's what you get for posting your shit online :)
>>7071163
You might be the most autistic person here.
>>7071144
Do you think you would ever begun the transition if you hadn't had that breakdown? Was everything just kind of building up inside like a pressure cooker before then because you had those feelings but couldn't let them out?
>>7071141
>Came out at 21 to my closest friend and my therapist
Interesting that you came out to your friend before your parents, you must have trusted them quite a lot. Are you still friends with them now?
So I handed in my notice at work.
It's actually happening. I'll be officially full time in 10 weeks
I'm scare and excite
>>7071166
>Niantic ruined the game
Yeah, Finding new and powerful pokemons is a drag without pokeradar, i use to discard all my ratatas but I saw that they could be useful using hyperbeam to take down snorlaxes and they're so quick, snorlax rarely lands a hit on them.
I guess having no disposable income to use to play other video games has really got me stuck with pokemon.
Training at gyms is a better experience now, and having the pokemon buddy keeps me playing to where I think I can evolve my Dragonair seeing as dragonites always seem to flee when I encounter them.
>>7071180
>not being master boy mode?
>>7071096
Oh wow
>>7071174
>weet niet waarvoor
Woops, must've flipped back to anon that one time. Clover's been acting up lately :/
I was thanking you for your advice to stick to QHI c:
>your mom sounds awesome lol
I'm really just glad she's been so accepting of me being all these weird things heh
>>7071180
sounds awesome desu. Waiting for big changes like that is hard af though, good luck.
>>7071155
Your mother sounds like a sweet woman. School bullying seems to be a familiar thing for a lot of people here, and not bullying in the cute way either.
>>7071169
Thank you for sharing your story with me, anon.
>>7071171
>Tfw music doesn't pay the bills
;_; iktf
What about merchandising and touring? Clubs and stuff?
What about selling out and working teaching classes at a music program and stuff?
I just don't want you to end up bagging groceries when you have kick ass talent!
>>7071179
to be honest, no. I was planning to kill myself after I saved enough money to pay my parents back for what they paid for my college, so I'd have been dead by 30. my mental breakdown was definitely the pressure cooker analogy though, I was scared I wouldn't even make it to the end of the year without jumping off a bridge
>>7071180
>Tfw basic is starting female life in 10 weeks
I'm so excited and happy and jelly and happy most of all!
>>7071108
hahaha that's cute
>>7071174
Did you live in Greece or Cyprus before you moved to the NL then?
I don't know much about trans issues there, but I hear that (generally speaking) the further eastwards you go into Europe, the less recognition of transgenderism there is.
It sounds like you have a couple of difficult conversations ahead of you somewhere in the future. I don't envy you, but I hope they go better than you're imagining them in your head.
>>7071191
During elementary there were a lot of immigrant kids from the balkan/eastern bloc and marrocans and as you can probably guess, they weren't the most accepting of different people or simply said people that weren't into soccer/being macho. Then my parents sent me to the scouting group and it didn't quite click, either.. It did teach me a lot about human behaviour and how to anticipate what people will do to you. Idk, maybe that's just me being weird.
>>7071180
Oh my gosh, that's awesome! Congrats :D
>>7071108
c u t e
>tfw people are going full time female but you went back to being male
Feels good man
>>7071208
Poor computer
>>7071188
yeah QHI is just really reliable, im pretty sure most trannies in Europe who self-med use QHI.
>>7071211
Greece. It's not as bad as the rest of the Balkans and it's gotten better in recent years (we have legal gay marriage for example) but it's not northern europe/scandinavia unfortunately
>>7071213
>tfw content to live the femboy life until I can afford ffs and srs
good frog
>tfw you miss the only bloodwork appointment you can make until mid-December
Fuck my life, I'm switching providers to one in Pittsburgh
>>7071022
>you're not still living with your mom, are you?
No, I'm not, but she's changed a lot since I moved out. She's hugely supportive now.
>>7071179
Yeah, we're still super close friends, she's my main support. I've helped her through a lot of tough points in her life and vice versa. I have a lot of trust in her, and she's said if I ever need someone to help me with coming out to my parents she'd be there when I tell them
I'm just waiting for the right opportunity to tell my parents at this point, though telling my dad will suck quite a bit.
>>7071213
>tfw you fall for the hon mode meme
>>7071229
>No, I'm not, but she's changed a lot since I moved out. She's hugely supportive now.
oh awesome. I remember talking to you a bunch a while ago and your mom sounded insane. happy to hear that things are better between you two
>>7071212
Children are little shits (I know, I used to be one). Maybe they'll grow up to have more liberal attitudes, since they're living in the NL.
>>7071085
>How old were you when you first realised you were trans (roughly, or specifically)?
Realized just after I turned 25. I had a pretty normal childhood. I was always quiet and shy. I grew up in the middle of nowhere, as the only son on a farm and I hated it. I always knew that's not what I wanted out of life but I felt an obligation to live up to my father's expectations so I tried my best to be whatever he wanted me to be.
When I hit puberty that's when I started to switch off. I spent all my time in my room. Stopped talking to people and just became obsessed with music and spending all my time at it. At about fifteen I started hanging out with goth/emo kids and then that became an outlet for femininity. I wore makeup, girl clothes, and really tried hard to look like a girl. I was incredibly dysphoric all the time but I didn't have a name for it, so I put it down to self hatred. Of course my family hated that I was like this.
Puberty hit me like a truck at sixteen and I wasn't cute anymore. That's when I decided I needed to man up. I cut my hair up short, started working out, got a job in a lumber yard and saved for college. I really feel like I had the outward image of masculinity down.
>How old were you when you first "came out"? Who did you first tell?
I first came out at 25. I had a drinking problem and regularly got blind drunk. One morning when I woke up my fiancee asked me if I remembered what I told her the night before and obviously I didn't.
She then told me everything I said about wanting to be a woman, never being happy as a man and not wanting to waste what life I had left.
I kind of spiraled after this because while I didn't believe it at first, I came to accept it. So then I tried to kill myself. Ended up in therapy and decided to at least try transitioning.
The first person I made a conscious decision to tell was my best friend and he's been amazing.
>>7071229
>tfw you want to get a blood test to make sure everything is alright but you're too afraid to do it
Guess I'll just keep hoping for the best ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>7071235
I think that she kinda sees that I can make great decisions for myself. I orchestrated my entire move and transition, and she's noticing how much happier I am because of it. So she let go and is treating me like an adult.
>>7071243
You should do it eventually, though I'm not sure what your circumstances are.
>>7071222
>Greece. It's not as bad as the rest of the Balkans and it's gotten better in recent years (we have legal gay marriage for example) but it's not northern europe/scandinavia unfortunately
You must speak at least three languages fluently then. That's pretty impressive, Sertii.
>tfw going to walk the dog with mom
IM SO TEMPTED TO TELL HER I WANNA SELF MEDDLE BUT I CANT BECAUSE SHE WILL STOPME BUT 5+ MONTHS WAITING IS TOO LONG AHHHHHHH
im a drama queen
>>7071238
Maybe, just maybe~
>>7071225
I had ffs and still live the femboi life
>>7071249
I do, languages are actually a hobby of mine. I'm working on Russian atm and planning on Spanish after.
>>7070497
Yea being fulltime for the first time is such a cool feeling. Glad it won't be much longer for you! Will you leave your job or come out at work do you think?
>>7071257
I honestly wonder if she'd still be coddling me if I hadn't stayed home an extra year and needed to organize everything myself.
>>7071252
Shame
Guess I'll be the only one left that can master boy mode
I bought the Cheetos chicken fries. I can't believe the op tricked me into eating that swill
>>7071085
I always was very sensitive (I even had the nickname sensibelchen in kindergarten) and rather did girlstuff than boystuff. Sports in school was hell, especially swimming ;_; The first moment I can recall where I thought about wanting to be a girl was at 9 or 10. I literally dreamed about getting a sex change.
I didn't know about trans back then. I first found out what my feelings meant when I saw a documentary about it when I was 16.
I had a breakdown when I turned 22, realized I had to do something cause I'm getting old. I told a friend about it and he went to a psych with me
:3
>>7071266
Oh I actually handed in my notice today, I have ten weeks til I leave then I'm going full time ^^
>>7071269
Do it for the the best femboy
>>7071276
I get gendered female all the time but I know people are just hugboxing
>>7071257
By the way, when do I know you from? I don't think I've spoken that harshly about my mother since late July. Did you use to trip here?
>>7071275
I misd Fayeposting this weekend. I'm glad ur back
>>7071278
Oh wow congrats! IT's such a satisfying feeling if you don't like your job. I used to work at ASDA and McDonalds before that and quitting was such an awesome feeling.
>>7071241
So you became hyper-masculine to compensate for feeling feminine and because you wanted to live up to the expectations that your father had for you?
How long have you been transitioning for? I'm guessing losing all that muscle you gained over the years will be pretty tough.
>>7071276
I met one guy in the psych ward who's mother was still freely orchestrating his life and fucking up his plans at 35. He acted a lot younger than he was (I though he was about 22 at first) so I guess it makes sense.
>>7071262
I'm pretty jealous of your ability and dedication. You seem pretty talented.
>>7071287
There is absolutely nothing wrong with muscular girls.
>>7071297
>Zarya best girl
I need to buff up ;_;
>>7071295
Ohhhhhhh hiiii <3
I'm not very good at recognizing anons desu.
Ok, so you remember me getting a job and starting hrt, right?
>>7071277
How comes you left it until you were 22 if you realised how you felt at 16? Did you think the feelings were going to go away and that it was just a phase you were going through or something?
>>7071290
sounds like my friend. it's like a self fulfilling prophecy, parents treat them like a kid so they never learn to grow up and be an adult, then they keep acting like a kid and prove their parents right, so their parents keep being overbearing. a vicious cycle
>>7071307
hi!
yes to both, and I knew you were planning on moving away for college but I think I stepped away from mtfg before you had plans finalized
Hey y'all just a reminder that I'm a boy again
>>7071296
Thank you for the kind words. In uni most of the courses i feel like a literal retard compared to some of the other people there and i personally met someone who could speak 7 languages fluently and was working on his Korean lmao.
I can only really work on stuff when im too distracted to feel dysphoria. Like when i was in Russia for a month i made a ton of progress but only because i was in a new country and had so much to do and see, and i only managed to get into uni because last year in greek high school is brutal and was basically forced to go to school-study-eat-sleep. Any other time i can't get anything done at all.
>>7071297
Like, I feel the need to really stress this. I've seen transwomen wandering around my town looking like skeletons covered in leather because they buy into the whole "must be as thin as possible" thing and effectively end up anorexic.
If I had to throw out a list of rules, Rule #1 would be to BE HEALTHY.
>>7071318
How did you get started with learning languages as a hobby? I have recently felt like I'd really love to learn another language but haven't got the first idea how t o go about it.
>>7071286
I'm just really excited!!!! I've been here for years and fucking hate it so it's Soooooooooo satisfying lol
>>7071287
>So you became hyper-masculine to compensate for feeling feminine and because you wanted to live up to the expectations that your father had for you?
Pretty much this. Also I grew up really handsome. I guess I tried to validate myself through that too.
I didn't know transitioning was a thing, I thought Trans people were either manly crossdressers or some kind of intersex. So I had to be masc.
Well Ive been on hrt since March, but that year from when I had realized took care of a lot of muscle. I actually have a pretty fem body. Like measurement wise is close to cis. Right now where I am with hrt in starting to notice muscle loss, especially up around my shoulders and legs.
And if I'm Being honest I stopped looking after myself when I started to drink heavily
>>7071308
The documentary was about a young transitioner (Kim Petras).
I thought I missed my opportunity already.
I already was hiding from live at that point and felt really disconnected from my body. I didn't leave the house for 6 weeks at some point and just played online games as a female character. That was my way of escapism. I hoped it was just a phase but the feelings didn't go away.
After I failed suicide I further repressed until 22 and thought before I attempt again I'll try transition.
>>7071324
Thing is weight actually helps a lot with passing. I went up from 59kg to 71kg and everyone keeps telling me how much better / healthier I look. (For reference I am 6"1 so that's a healthy weight for me)
>>7071314
I feel bad for your friend. I've been pushing back on my mom long enough that I managed to feel like I was living wholly on my own. Everything she gives me now feels more like a gift than an overbearingly mothering thing.
I can understand stepping away. The place was a shitshow for quite a while, and I only just started posting again recently myself.
>>7071318
Was it easier to learn the third language after you learned the second? I feel like Americans have a harder time than Europeans because they aren't exposed to people who speak other languages fluently.
>>7071318
I guess the Netherlands is one of those countries where almost everyone speaks 2 languages and many speak 3+ due to the large immigrant population.
What are you studying at university? Is it languages or that purely a hobby for you?
>>7071328
Well I'm glad you're out of it then! Do you have any idea what you'll move on to / aim for next?
>>7071326
buy a book, work through it. Ideally saving up and taking something like a summer course in the appropriate country helps insanely. if you're lucky you also meet nice people from all over the world, because going away from your usual suroundings kinda helps distract you from dypshoria and allows you to be social for once.
I realize not everybody can do this for any language, but i got insanely lucky with Russia because going to Pushkin institute in Moscow for a month is insanely cheap (Like i spent less than 1000 euros for literally everything - flights, food, stay, lessons etc).
>>7071336
>Was it easier to learn the third language after you learned the second? I feel like Americans have a harder time than Europeans because they aren't exposed to people who speak other languages fluently.
my third language was english. I'd say it definitely is easier, after a while you realize there's a lot of overlap with different words and it gets easier to pick up new words. I do think American's have somewhat of a disadvantage unless you live in an area with a lot of people from Mexico, because Spanish is apparently the easiest language there is to learn if you're english speaking
>>7071339
Im doing a master in Mathematics. I'm not really that good though, often i feel the level is really high and some of the people here are just way smarter than me and will go on to do PhD's and stuff. I wouldn't be able to do that and I hope i can just get a decent job that isn't too hard for me
>>7071335
I feel like I pass better since I started losing weight (I was never heavy to begin with though). my boobs actually seem bigger because they haven't changed size but the rest of my frame has
>>7071336
worst part is, she could easily move out, she just doesn't realize it. I feel terrible for her. she's also obese because her parents didn't instill a good sense of health and self control and I'm afraid she's going to get really ill if she doesn't get out of there soon :\
and yeah, it was pretty bad. leaving for a while was good for me though, I kinda "found myself" mentally, as cheesy as it sounds. kinda put a plan in place for where I hope to be in the next few years. so it was definitely good to take a break.
>>7071328
>>7071332
You all have different stories, but one recurring theme seems to be that you get to this stage where the feelings become insuppressible and you kind of explode a bit, which leads to the beginning of therapy/transitioning.
It's a shame that people lead unhappy lives with something constantly feeling wrong about themselves, and that it often takes something drastic for things to change. I wonder what can be done to minimise the number of people going down this route in the future.
check out this dog
>>7071365
>I wonder what can be done to minimise the number of people going down this route in the future.
Education in schools would be a big help. Explain that transitioning is a thing, and encourage children/teenagers to talk to a professional if they feel a certain way.
Like hell, I thought boys just wanted to be girls when I was a child.
>>7071351
I live in an area with large Indian and Asian populations, but neither speak their first language to me. There was an entire program called "English as a second language", if that gives you any idea of our culture.
>>7071359
I'm glad my mom instilled good eating habits now, I could be stuck trying to lose weight rn instead of just instantly getting cuter.
I still haven't really gotten everything together. I'm chronically late, just like my father, and passive-aggressive, like my mother. It's really a shame that I picked up their two worst traits.
>>7071365
Better education. When I first looked into that stuff I only found fetish websites and transvestites.
Also a more supportive environment where you don't have to fear getting beaten up when being different would be nice. I was bullied so hard in school for being girly that I trained being manly to protect myself.
>>7071351
Cool, thanks! Don't know how able I'll be to go on holiday while I'm studying as nursing has way less holiday than a normal degree b ut I'll definitely invest in a book. I'd like to learn either Finnish or Swedish as they're both options to emigrate to later.
>>7071359
Yea? I guess it works that way to. I was unhealthily underweight for my height though so weight gain was definitely the option for me, it's filled out my face and boobs a lot and given me more of a figure.
Gonna meet with my therapist again today, I'm telling her that I'm sure I want to transition this time. I'm leaving in a few minutes, here's hoping I can get in with an endo about hrt soon.
>>7071382
>>7071385
>educating children about the existence of transgenderism and to talk about their feelings
Sounds like a good idea. Children often feel and experience a lot of things they don't know how to express.
Gotta be careful that some people don't see that as part of a wider conspiracy though.
>>7071347
Well my fiancee will start applying for jobs in her field so I'm gonna take a break for a while and focus on going full time and being a housewife lol
I'll probably end up getting a call Centre job out of boredom.
But yeah just go fulltime, enjoy life, and then go back to uni
Idk it feels like I'm waiting for my life to begin now!
>>7071365
More focus needs to be put on mental health. And removing the stigma of struggling. For me the whole man up thing was completely counter to seeking help. When I actually got therapy, it wasn't my choice. I had to after my suicide attempt.
Clinical psychology is what I eventually want to end up doing so i do feel very strongly about it too.
Also I'm sure if I knew that I could be a girl if I wanted as a kid I would have fought for it. But society seems to be remedying it. Albeit slowly. I'd love to develop a program for schools based around explains what lgbt means, because there are lots of boys and girls who are under the impression that everyone feels the way they do and they being silly.
>>7071394
No you don't. Anymore than you need to worry what anti vaccine or ayy lmao people think. Just having a kid doesn't entitle you to get a say in public curriculum if your opinions aren't founded in reality. Those people will die in wars and if history is any lesson, so will their offspring.
>>7071365
explain that transitioning is a thing that can have good results, elaborate on the extent of the changes HRT and surgery can get you. Try to remove the stigma of not being cis.
>>7071384
also unlucky that those are all really hard languages to learn.
>>7071387
there was a nurse from Denmark there, don't know if you're from around there. Also i definitely would like to learn swedish, it's a really nice language (also sounds sexy as fuck on both guys and girls).
>>7071394
>Gotta be careful that some people don't see that as part of a wider conspiracy though.
Those people will bitch about anything tbqh.
>>7071365
pediatricians could talk to kids about it. but even then I may not have understood the gravity of transition vs not transition, so I don't know if it'd be a perfect fix
>>7071384
aww. I have a lot of passive aggressiveness from my mom too. I think I just got mild autism from my dad though, lol
everyone gets good and bad traits from their parents though. the bad ones just might stand out more.
>>7071387
I'm fast approaching underweight but we'll see what happens when I get there. honestly I had a gaunt looking face even when I was 15 pounds heavier, all I've been losing so far is shoulders and legs, so I'm happy.
>>7071395
Awwh yea I know that feeling. I already went to uni and got a degree as a guy, when I start nursing it feels like I'll get to do it properly this time. I'll get graduation picture that I won't hate!
Your plan sounds comfey as fuck, hope it all goes well.
>>7071400
I'm from the UK, and our nursing courses only have 5 weeks holiday a year according to the uni, so getting to go abroad might not be possible, I'll have to see how accurate that is though. My ideas for emigrating are America, Sweden or Finland and I have friends in Sweden and Finland so learning one of them would be fun and at least vaguely pratical.
>>7071394
>Gotta be careful that some people don't see that as part of a wider conspiracy though.
Shit. They might catch on to the plans to seduce males and turn them into cute girls.
>>7071096
anon ily
>>7071387
oh shit someone else here is studying nursing?
i'm in my first semester now
first clinical is this week
hopefully i'll get my pills soon, i'm sure that will be the most awkward fucking thing of all time since i'm stuck with the exact same group of people until may 2018 :|
>>7071408
Don't tell him!
>>7071408
>Shit. They might catch on to the plans to seduce males and turn them into cute girls.
You laugh, but it's a theory that has traction in certain places (transgenderism as a way to lower the white birth rate via non-violent means)
>>7071400
When I was a kid in the early 90s, I was taught that being gay was terrible. Further, acting feminine was even worse and the absolute most degenerate mentally ill types were the cross dressers. Who were until probably 2011 indistinguishable from Trans people. There was no one in their teens transitioning back then.
That guilt and shame (especially since I was raised by puritan zealots) destroyed my psyche.
Both parents swear up and down they never jumped on the fuck LGBT bandwagon, but I remember critical points in life where both parents showed disgust towards it - and especially so did all of their friends, all my classmates and teachers, and school faculty, and every show on TV.
A big part of the change is simply letting people know that
A) gay is fine so is lgbt no one cares welcome to the future
B) THIS IS NOT A FUCKING CHOICE.
I really owe zero allegiance to the lgbt community. They've been a toxic spot in my life for as long as I can remember. I know Trans community doesn't exist, but it doesn't need to. Not anymore than a diabetic needs to be the LGBT community, or a Latino because they have different skin. I hope in the near future it gets lumped out Of lgb pride and fades into the background.
It won't happen, based on history and who advocates and where the career money is for "activists", but fuck would it be nice to have Jazz talk to kids, and not a 60 year old male cross dresser.
At 14, when I was still cutting myself, I'd have given anything to understand what was wrong with me.
I'm 24. Watching the under aged girls in this thread makes me smile, but cry for myself. 10 years make a big difference. Kids today don't have any idea how fucked shit was just 20 years ago and every year before.
Can someone give me some advice on how to meet people? I've been thinking about going to a bar alone and just drinking a little to loosen up. Everything in me says that's a bad idea though. Where do men that like trannies hang out?
>>7071407
Awh I really hope yours does too!!!
And I bet you'll have a beautiful grad pic ^^
>>7071421
College campus. How old are you? I always just go into the dining halls or campus centers and sit down. Magic cards help. So does my smash Bros setup (but bringing my laptop isn't always practical).
>>7071421
go with friends
>>7071421
>Where do men that like trannies hang out?
On 4chan mostly.
>>7071427
you have no idea how hard I want to dick you
>>7071417
Aren't white birth rates already declining in every civilized (white) part of the world anyways?
>>7071404
Well if it works then I am glad it's working for you!
>>7071413
Oh cool! I'm on a later intake and start in February because I thought my GRS would be about now and that February would be safer. Turns out it was way earlier and I'm sort of sat here twiddling my thumbs and working in the meantime. Are you studying in the UK?
>>7071427
Thanks! I may already have brought a dress I like... I mean it's 3 years away and I might find something better but can't help to be prepared!
>>7071317
Was it actually you shit posting last week insulting people like level 5 vitriol? People were upset because you've always been our beacon. It felt like Harvy Dent going rogue.
Thank you for all the responses this evening. I feel as if we understand each other better now.
Let's continue in our next session tomorrow.
>>7071417
>transgenderism as a way to lower the white birth rate via non-violent means
That's silly. The plan is to convert males to girls, get a power bloc, and then to use advanced science to modify ourselves into the pinnacles of humanity while producing millions of tube daughters in artificial wombs to form a perfect one world army.
>>7071433
They are declining in a decreasing rate. Same as japan. It's as if a high quality of life has something to do with it.
But it's probably the jews.
>>7071447
>I never understood why people thought this anyways
Probably makes it easier to justify their hatred. Or they haven't thought about it critically for a moment.
>>7071437
thanks! and yeah, I know it can be hard to gain weight too so it's great that it's working out for you to make you look better. there's not a one size fits all solution for everything.
>>7071441
Ugh. This reminds me, I have voice worshop at 5. I'm so fucking lonely I might settle for it and actually show up. It's so boring, led by a flamer and a closet career queer and his interracial co-eds who are just hot enough to entice me to show up. Tfw being a tranny and a lesbian automatically makes you a predator.
>>7071447
Cross dressers do it all the time. Proxy Paige did so much porn her anus literally cannot stay in her body. I won't tell you what she does now, but she didn't retire... Suffice to say, people do degenerate retarded things all the time. And because it resembles cross dressing, it's always been lumped into the same category.
>>7071419
This.
Kids today can't imagine how it was back then.
Nobody knew about trans. Being a feminine man was equal to being gay. There was so much hate on gays. I remember the boys in my class constantly joking about those freaks.
A lot has changed for the better. And it hurts to have missed that change by only a few years.
>>7071419
I kinda feel the same, in the sense that growing up if you were trans you just fell under the "gay" umbrella. it was just faggotry taken to the extreme by crazy people.
I'm not sure if i agree with you on the wider LGBT community - at least the active militant part that fought (and still does) to gain us rights and a better place in society. Understand that no change in society happens comes on it's own. Society, when left alone, in this system, gravitates towards reaction. Everything you have today (the fact that you aren't poor enough to not have a computer and food and a place to sleep) you owe to people who fought for a better place in society many years back, it didn't just come alone. Often these people made fools of themselves and sacrificed themselves, but they still helped a lot.
>>7071407
5 weeks is still enough tho. The course cycle in Russia was like 4 weeks exactly
>>7071421
this is relevant, i considered doing the same but it sounds really scary desu.
Also someone needs to make anew thread. Im going for a walk, apparently there's a full moon outside.
>>7071452
I dropped out as well after my 2 year degree concluded and a year of fucking wasting parents money on a meme online semester at a state school. A year out of school that makes me. I'm going to a campus today, but I feel creepy because I have to be around hot girls. I feel guilty being attracted to them, it's a real problem.
>>7071452
I'll be your bar friend, do you like hanging out with femboys?
>>7071441
How long will you be collecting data for?
>>7071452
How are you today?
>>7071462
Yea but those 5 weeks are spread out, it's like 2 at Christmas, 2 at Easter and 3 in the summer or something. I don't get a solid block of time off like I did on my first degree. Still if I can find something that fits that then I will go for it.
>>7071456
Yea definitely, Got to do what works for you.
>>7071469
For as long as it takes.
The more raw data I have, the better. There's so much more I want to know.
>>7071476
ok I can't count to 5, it's less at easter and i nthe summer.
Time to go~
G'night/enjoy your day, everyone and see you later <3
>>7071462
right?? i just feel like im going to get harassed if i go anywhere alone.
>>7071464
iktf. a lot more girls are open though. try not to stress too much.
>>7071466
yeah sure that could be fun. wya? fly me there.
>>7071470
pretty exhausted senpai. i did acid last night so im super foggy. i just got back home with some food and i'm happy my appetite is coming back.
>>7071421
Are you not with your girlfriend anymore, beepy? :(
>>7071498
I wanna dick basic too, desu.
probably harder than the other anon.
I know you're lesb and in a committed relationship. But if you weren't would you consider dating a man?
>>7071498
<3 I'd show a pic of it but the only one I have I look like a total mong and I'm too tired from work to take another.
>>7071504
we broke up a few months ago now :( im starting to get over it..i got to cry last night finally. so im definitely processing. 5 years and she ended up cheating on me :(
>>7071568
I've had that exact same thing happen to me. Im sorry someone would do that to you Beep.
>>7071568
Sorry to hear that <3 Cheaters are the worst >: