Right. I'm like, 5'5 and ftm. I probably won't ever truly pass or get any respect because of that. Should I just kill myself?
(Pic not really related. I just like dogs and it was on my computer.)
I know plenty of short dudes that are command respect in spite of their stature. You'll do fine.
>>7051785
Passing yes
Respect no
Short guys have it hard
>>7051785
5'5" is short. However, there are a lot of short men out there. Don't worry about it.
No cal, your fine
>>7051797
I suppose if I was on testosterone I would be able to get like the facial hair and the voice, but I feel like I would just always look like an awkward and kinda gross half man.
i'm barely taller. 5'6". no in person comments on my height and i'm still taller than most women i encounter
>>7051824
Where are you from? Most women in my area are from 5'6 to 5'8.
>>7051820
Every trans person has those fears, but I've never seen an ftm that really failed to pass. Some trans guys that try to go for a more boyband-ish look end up being pretty androgynous especially if their voice takes time to get right, but if you're trying to grow a beard and bulk up you should have no problems.
>>7051820
Not a half man. Just a short one. It could be worse. You could be in a wheelchair. Or you could be in a war zone or whatever.
If it eases your pain. I have the same problem just other way around. And it really doesn't affect me at all. Height is really a nonfactor in passing. Only thing is they might be biased towards you. Or you could have worse chances at dating. But once you got to know ppl theyll just realise you are not like they expected but way cooler.
>>7051830
Different anon but women around Denton, Tx are really small. I'm 5'8" and I'm usually a good 3-5 inches taller than them
>>7051841
I suppose people having low expectations when meeting me is a plus lol. And dating would be hard anyway unless I were to find a bisexual guy with a tranny fetish or something.
>>7051785
>a dickless manlet
pottery
>>7051830
socal
>>7051785
Tom Cruise is only 5'7, 5'5 isn't the worst. Girls who really like your personality will be ok with it, you won't be able to get shallow stacies but you probably can't as a FtM anyway. You'll blend in a crowd, but isn't that a good thing for a trans person?
At least you're not a 6'1 MtF like me...
>>7051867
Well it happens. You would be surprised if you knew today how your life can look in a year or two. Things just happen. And since your t is a certainty I have no doubt you'll be just fine.
>>7051882
Too bad I'm into guys though lol. I'll just have to find someone with a fetish.
And sorry about your height. How do you deal with it?
>>7051901
There are TONS of guys who prefer short guys, a lot of guys dont want to be with someone taller than them. A lot of guys who like guys have no issue with FtMs too, if you like bottoming they're already want to fuck your ass so it doesn't matter what you have in the front, if you want to top then they don't have to worry about asking you to peg then.
also
>all ftms are gay
I thought this was just a meme but it seems so true on 4chan
>How do you deal with it?
I work from home and the only time I leave the house is to shop for groceries once a week at 3 in the morning.
>>7051785
>transitioning into a dickless manlet
when will they LEARN lmfao
>>7051942
>all ftms are gay on 4chan
It's probably because the ftms who aren't gay (that I've met at least) tend to just be lesbians without dysphoria who want more options and think gender is just a "social construct" anyway. They're all too sensitive for 4chan.You'll find a lot of "pan" ones on tumblr.
>>7051882
That sucks, I was thinking I was probably taller than you so I was worse off, but I just measured myself and I'm only 5'10", being 3 inches taller would really suck. At least I know a few cis girls that tall, so it's not the end of the world.
>>7051785
5'11" Mtf here. My dad's 5'7" and my mum's 5'3". You're basically the height I should be so you'll br fine.
>>7051983
I mean I'll probably kill myself before I make it to university anyway. So I wont be one for too too long.
>>7051983
>>7052006
Make it to Uni as in you're in high school now? You're even better off than I thought, just work on bulking up a bit and getting on T before you go, and you'll pass with flying colors. No need to kill yourself.
>>7052022
I suppose you have a bit of a point here, but at the same time I've gotten to a point where I practically obsess over my height and can't get past it.
>>7052084
Well I've said all I can, your height is nothing to worry about but if you still can't get your mind to accept that maybe try talking to a therapist about it, they'd be more helpful than us. Also, maybe try some ways to create the illusion of height? Idk how to do that in a manly way, though, my best guess would be try to make some kind of high-heels-esque shoes out of some large athletic shoes, but that might make you feel too girly.
>>7051814
Lmao im shorter than op though by an inch
>>7052122
>your height is nothing to worry about
don't lie to it bro
>>7051942
Really? I am a 5'10" mtf and I like being tall. Sometimes I see even taller women and wish I was as tall as them. Or sometimes I wish I was shorter. But I'm perfectly happy with my height and I think I would be no matter how tall or short. It's not as big a deal as some people think (in terms of passing). In fact,my ex-bf (6'3") liked that I was taller cuz I didnt seem so fragile and he could be rougher with me. :D
>>7052292
Because you
>aren't that tall
>started early
>pass
i just started coming out to ppl like last week & im 6'2" what am i gonna doooooo how i bcome smal girl
>>7053064
Switch bodies with me.
Yeah definitely kill yourself, but post nudes first.
Napoleon Bonaparte was short
>>7053615
he was a light-skinned french so it's not remarkable
>>7052084
if you're like me you'll not care so much about your height once you transition into society as a male. that and HRT lessens the dysphoria so much.
>>7051942
>I thought this was just a meme but it seems so true on 4chan
i'm one of the more active 4chan ftms and i'm straight, but it's definitely a phenomenon
the funny thing is that statistically there are extremely few gay trans guys, between 95% and 99.5% of ftms are straight depending on which study you're reading
it's just far less true amongst the younger generation, which i think is a mix of more aaps transitioning, more people being out about being gay as well as sex discordant, and young straight trans guys who aren't yet ready to let go of being lesbians deciding they have to be gay now
I'm a trans guy and I'm 5 feet tall i've considered killing myself too lmfao
>know a 16 year old trans guy
>a few inches shorter than me, we saw eye to eye pretty well
>lifts weights
>is only on blockers no T yet
>starting T in a few months
This guy is like one of the few trans I ever respect, even his love and creation of Harry Potter fan fiction surpasses that. Hes gonna be going places. Moral of story start young.
>>7051785
I'm a cis male and shorter than you get over it
I'm 5'3" and haven't had any trouble. If anything my worst problem is people thinking I can lift/do just as much as taller/heavier dudes when it comes to work. No one gets that, yet I'm still one of the first they call to do some heavy shit. Which most of the time I can do, I'll just struggle and regret it in the morning. I'm asked to do shit instead of the obese 6+footers since they can hardly stand up, despite being able to lift much more than me. Helps I have a shit ton of stamina and can easily work bullshit jobs for 8+ hours nonstop.
Feels good, really. I'm getting up there in age though so I know it's going to bite me hard in the ass soon. Sure, I'm sure dating grills is rough because I'm shorter than most of them but work/social-wise I get no leverage. But I also work with old dudes in construction who won't respect you until you're killing yourself through physical work. They fired a guy a year younger than me because he quit work to go get stitches.
Work with old timey guys and you'll feel great as long as you have a high pain tolerance.
>>7057986
Geez, I don't usually agree with toxic masculenity being a thing outside of tumblr, but that really soundslike taking manliness to a very unhealthy degree. I guess if you can take it good on you, but I'm glad I have no desire to be a part of something like that.
>>7058023
I didn't get the job to be manly. I got it because I knew a friend already in it and I really, really needed a job.
I got part time for next year to let me get a second job, since physical work like this I know will catch up hard and I don't want to be crippled before I'm 40.
I want to chalk it up to the age group I work with. I'm a few years shy of 30 and aside from me my oldest coworker is in their late 50s. I'm thankful I've learned a lot when it comes to tools, pipes, electricity, building, etc which has come in handy in every day life. I'm probably good as dead if I stick with this. I learned a lot, and hope to move on to find something also physical(it keeps me outside and active since otherwise i'm lazy as fuck) bu t not so demanding as this. I also may now be biased against people around my age who can't fix the simplest shit. The second youngest coworker of mine is late 50s, and all he can do is clean up and lift some things. Toxic masculinity or not, it's been odd to see how many people don't even know how to change the oil in a car or tighten a sink, replace a washer, etc.
Despite my old ass coworkers being very vocal about homophobia, Jenner, liberals, basically anything 'kids and adults these days can't do shit, ruining our country', 'back in ou day we beat them with a belt and it was fine' etc no one bothers me. They'll talk to me about it(most of them know i am trans due to extended family running their mouth) but I genuinely do like to sweat and work with my hands. I like to feel like I did something that day since I've spent so long doing nothing. I need to be moving around and doing shit for most of the day. Maybe that makes me a workaholic, but I've always been so anxious and twitchy in slow paced, low physical jobs. I'm way too lazy to exercise on my own time so this at least keeps me outside and moving, plus I don't have to deal with many customers.
>is 5'3
> ;_;
>>7051785
IM A MANLET N I LIKE DOGGOS JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER TUMBLR MEMER!! Hold on though Guys (bros), Maybe if I type very Calmly, I will appear Masculine.
>Should I just kill myself?
YES DESU but nudes first plz, my fetish is saggy cuntboy tits
>>7051785
I'm mtf and 5'5". I don't get any respect but I do (unfortunately) pass as male at all times (so you can too). Luckily the guys don't think of me as "one of the guys," and I sometimes get cat-called by jocks in their cars.
>>7058818
That is the worst fetish I've ever heard.
>>7058827
it appears i have Triggered you. i know you're full of shit when ya say it's the worst, because you're on 4chan, silly!
>>7051791
This. There are men this short, even outside of asia. And respect shouldn't be determined by stature, but I suppose sometimes it is. Good luck.
>>7058818
Lol, why do people want me to post nudes before I inevitably shoot my brains out? You're the second person to ask in this thread. It's kind of funny, if I'm honest.
>>7059180
>It''s kind of funny
Which is precisely why they do it, although they probably would find it more funny if they thought you would take them seriously instead of laughing at their stupidity.
>>7051785
Post a pic
>>7051785
>mtf
>5'11
>built like a brick
want to trade?
>>7059180
>Should I kill myself?
You invited those people in, OP.
>>7053007
For a woman yeah 5'10" is tall. 6 inches above average. Op is only 4.5 inches below average. And passing and early transition doesn't have anything to do with height. Also I started hrt at 19
>>7051785
I'm male, 5'4". If you are into women, you will have a very hard time, if you are into guys it will be a lot easier for you.
as many others have said, you'll pass fine, plenty of short guys out there, Respect is much harder though. If you have a twink/skinny type of body people just find you cute and/or assume you're gay but if you're short, really muscly and got a full beard they'll just call you a manlet (someone who is trying to compensate for being short with being buff and macho) and often not afford you any more respect. I find men will overlook my height and give me reasonable respect however women are absolutely terrible at this, you will basically be invisible to them, also evident outside of dating. You can somewhat increase the respect you get by excelling at something that isn't based on your appearance like intelligence or wealth.
>>7060202
Yes it does. Nobody clocks a 6'2 woman because of her height.
19 is early.
>ITT: retards thinking height matters
protip: it doesn't if you're not ridiculously taller or shorter than average (we're talking like a foot here)
>>7060598
hell, if you're ridiculously far from average it works in your favour because you're so short/tall you'd be freakish no matter what
>>7051785
I'm mtf and 5'4, just get masculine enough which is easy for ftms and they'll assume you're a manlet
also trip on cal
>>7051785
>tranny
>ftm
So you're just looking to feel oppressed?
Good thing you're short, because you'll regret transition anyway.
>>7051785
I'm a 5'7 cis guy. I know a fair few guys shorter than me so you'll pass.
Respect is earned not just given. Its harder to earn when you're short but still doable. Feel thankful for being given the opportunity to prove how awesome you are by being forced to play life on hardmode.
>>7060177
>lol at when getting told to kill yourself was your intention
"but if people online tell me to do it I HAVE to"
>>7060663
I'm uncomfortable using "transgender" because of tumblrinas who have practically changed the meaning of the word due to their shitty misuse of it. So I use tranny.
And I'm not looking to be oppressed, nobody is in the United States lol.
I'm 6'3 anon, and a cisgendered biscum male. I happen to know a cisgendered male who is 5'5, this little black dude who is a total bro. I make fun of his height sometimes, but DESU he could totally kick my ass, and has fucked more women than I ever will. I he gets a little defensive about his height, but he's still confident as fuck, and scrappy. I think that's the key. You know those little dogs that would think nothing of taking on a pitbull because they /know/ they're hot shit?
Be that little dog.
Because as a tall dude, a manlet who is confident is pretty damned respectable.
... Said friend just went off to marine bootcamp a couple weeks ago, I'm kinda terrified at how competent he'll be when he gets back.
>>7051830
tfw most woman in my area are 5'9 to 5'10
You're never gonna get respect as a manlet, sorry bro.
>>7060598
>Average height of white American women is 5'5"
>tfw I actually am a foot taller than that
>>7060609
yay....
>tfw cis 5'1" male
Just compensate for your height like I do, get in fights at dive bars, play with guns and drink like a fish
>>7051785
159 cm cis-male here. Actually I have a pssive bf.
>>7060949
>And I'm not looking to be oppressed, nobody is in the United States lol.
lol, ok.
>I'm uncomfortable using "transgender" because of tumblrinas who have practically changed the meaning of the word due to their shitty misuse of it. So I use tranny.
Then say transsexual.
Tranny is a slur for mtfs, dragqueens, and transvestites (Basically lumping mtfs in with transvestites).