Unpopular Opinion General

>>7042513
>I'm going to speak on the topic of gender by misdefining it
Good thread

>>7042543
Triggered much?

You're thinking of "physical, genetic sex" which is binary as well, and can also be chosen.

Take your meme preferences elsewhere, attention seeker.

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>>7042513
Despite the fact FTMs are the result of the lack of sanctity around the male form, they have the most desirable male aesthetic (when they're not purporting ultra-masc culture).

>>7042560
that anon: (calmly) you misdefined/don't seem to understand gender.
you: triggered? >:)
Get over yourself.

>>7042513
But those opinions you have have been proven wrong with studies. There's people whose brains will actually switch from grillmode to boimode. And then there's also asexuals who do not have any sexual attraction because it's just not there.

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Gays poop just is not as good. Im still a gay man true all the way...i just dont like gay man smell.

Debate me.

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>>7042666
>being this upset in this kind of thread
>responding to obvious bait

Lurk moar.

>>7042513
I like transgender mtfs more than women and I don't like men. I don't find cock appealing either.

>>7042769
>opinions have been proven wrong

I stopped reading there.

@7042513
Unpopular opinions don't work if they're retarded. This bait doesn't deserve a (You) but I respect your neat subverted meme.

>>7042513
>bisexuality isn't real

what?

>>7042513
>LGBT should just be LG,
>Keeping L, the most redundant letter
How do you manage to fuck up this bad?

>>7043036
He is just mad that his BF left him for a girl

>>7043036
He says that none is EXACTLY in the middle of the Kinsey scale and that even if you're infinitesimally more attracted to one gender than the other you should ID as that sexuality. You could define a sexual description schema this way if you wanted to, but I don't think it's more useful than the conventional system.

>>7042543
TRANNIES

STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS

YOU'RE TOO EASY

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>>7043338
Trolls feed themselves and targeted misinformation and cointel on anonymous websites is a cheap and self-perpetuating machine of idiocy and propaganda for countless individuals and interest groups.

Even if no one it was targeting responds, someone will respond and take on that identity for themselves because this place is anonymous and anyone can be anyone for any purpose to make people believe anything about anything.

That's why 4chan was broken the moment people started taking it seriously on a political level.

>>7043394
Good thing this is an ideological level and we can safely say that there are only two genders, sexual identities and only two REAL sexual preferences with everything outside of this being considered extreme fetishism (ie zoophilia, necrophilia, pedophilia... etc.)

I actually think it would do /lgbt/ to be a bit more receptive to sexual gray areas. Every day there's threads in which people talk about their one-off experiences and then question what they are.

>"unpopular" opinions thread
>always just op saying "look at me im retarded"
y?

>>7043394
Based on that though is it even worth putting up the effort to dispel misinfo? It's awfully hard to get through to people as it is, let alone those being willfully obtuse.

I often encounter people who don't really have a grasp of statistics, often when trying to prove some political point, but I have a hard time being willing to get into a discussion and actually try to show those persons what a well structured study looks like, because I don't think they'll listen.

I agree it'd be better for people to counter misinformation they encounter but I have a hard time motivating myself to do it personally.

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>binary gender
gender is assigned. google intersex.
>"female and male have always been the only options!"
google "two-spirit" and "third gender"
>thinking transgenders are piggybacking rich people

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>>7042543
>>7042666
>>7042769
>>7042988
>>7043036
>>7043051
>>7043394
>>7044305
>>7044406

Don't wanna cut myself on all this edge you guys are throwing around.

>inb4 "super tolerant"
>inb4 "meme sexual proclivities/gender role"
>inb4 "other general attention seeking post."

Pic related. Edge.

>>7042560
>genetic sex can be chosen
>genetic sex can be chosen
>genetic sex can be chosen

>>7047646
>disagreeing with me is being edgy

>>7042988

holy shit, lurk moar and learn to quote you fucking twitter bitch, jesus christ

>>7048888
did you miss the "this bait doesn't deserve a (You)"?

What a load of killjoys, just post some unpopular opinions you little shits, let's get retarded in here.

ftm

There are only two genders and sexes. Variation exists, but all between the two extreme points, and are rare/varied enough that giving them anything but umbrella terms is stupid (eg, intersexuality refers to a plethora of rare and incredibly variable disorders. Each disorder is not a unique sex).

Most people are bisexual to some (largely negligible) degree.

Whether or not asexuality is real, it's fucking stupid to build your identity around the fact that you DON'T participate in something (same with outspoken atheists). Especially when plenty of sexual people can be functionally asexual for various reasons, both temporarily and permanently (physical/emotional trauma victims, grieving widows, celibates, the chemically castrated, people with hormone imbalances, etc) meaning that fucktons of people will experience some degree of asexuality in their lifetime without it being an inborn trait. The same cannot be said for any other sexuality - even repressed homos won't truly function as heterosexuals, no matter how many "my marriage totally isn't a sham" babies they pop out.

Differentiating between gay men and women is retarded and just promotes infighting. There's no unique term for male and female bisexuals or trannies (mtf and ftm are just add-ons, still just trans. No different than a bisexual clarifying their sex).

Slurs are all about context and anyone who's blanketly affected by a word is a stupid faggot.

I can't take queer/non-binary people seriously. I'm ftm so i know how crappy it is to not be taken seriously for it. But the non-binary thing seems like pure bs to me.

>>7042513

CisGoldstarLesbian chiming

I feel bad that i actually agree with this

>>7042617
>>7042774
now all we need is m*rshalposter to complete the trinity

>>7048806
You're an absolute asshat if you think you can't get a re-assignment surgery.

>>7049108

>What a load of killjoys, just post some unpopular opinions you little shits, let's get retarded in here.

But Anon your opinion is both popular and correct. Maybe not here or on tumblr but I think most discerning and reasonable people would agree

>>7042513
Doesn't your second statement contradict your third?

You're attracted to male or female, one more than the other. Pick one.

So if you're 60/40 into guys. You're saying you must disregard your attraction to females.

So they'd still be bi, but you'd not want to acknowledge that lesser sided of their sexuality

>>7051721
SRS changes your anatomy, not your genetics.

>>7053270
not OP but I have no clue what you're trying to say.

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>>7049108
>Variation exists, but all between the two extreme points

This isn't really true. If you consider gender as a personality and neurobiological/behavioral profile then most people are not at extremes, they're closer to the middle with overlap. Most gendered characteristics that aren't strictly related to reproductive strategy are d<0.5 in terms of variability

See:
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.374.1723&rep=rep1&type=pdf

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>>7053270
Nope, I'm saying bisexuality is just a clusterfuck umbrella term that means nothing. If you're 60/40 in favor of guys, then you're gay, obviously.

>>7053273
>implying you aren't changing your genetic sex with SRS
Obviously your DNA is still original. Stop splitting hairs for the sake of an argument.

>>7053307
This graph represents absolutely nothing and is more confusing than just saying "Male" and "Female" are the only two genders and... as the same with bisexuality, you feel that you're more one than the other, so pick one. It's not a joke, it's not a game, it's not a meme. You are male, or you are female. Pick one and adhere to it.

This is why the gay community is generally disliked. Transgenders and non/poly/semi/whatever gender idiots are attempting to muddy the waters and claim to be something they're not. It really does fuck things up for the rest of us when you go on and on about ridiculous bullshit like "gendervoid otherkin" and whatever else nonsense. The gay community understands and recognizes transgender people who are switching from one binary to the other, but there is no inbetween or "other" and there never was.

>>7053426
The graph represents dimorphism in brain structures between the sexes
http://www.pnas.org/content/112/50/15468.abstract

>you feel that you're more one than the other, so pick one.
Why?
Personally I think I am much more "in the middle" than on either side. Why should I have to "pick" one and have everyone treat me based on their sexist expectations?

>it's not a meme
It actually is. Gender is socially constructed. The way people perceive you depends on the social context they are in, and so is the way the interpret your gender.

>You are male, or you are female. Pick one and adhere to it.
Say that to all the cultures (past and current) which have intermediate gender identities that add up to more than the 2 binary ones we have in Western society

>but there is no inbetween or "other" and there never was.
Sure there was, they just didn't get to express that because they were expected to adhere to a male or female gender role.

Really if you think that natural variation can cause some people to have a gender identity that is "opposite" to their sex, why doesn't it make sense that even more people have the same process happen to them but to a lesser degree, resulting in an intermediate gender identity?

Here's this, it's simple and easy to understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxs2yHP6K2E

In 100 years people will look back on SRS like we now look back on leech treatment.

>>7053493
>Why?
Marriage. Your sexual dimorphism isn't going to be recognized in a marital court, so... There's just ONE reason to make a choice.

>It actually is.
No, it isn't. Gender ROLES are socially constructed and change over time, but that's not what's happening here.

>Say that to all the cultures...
The ones that are nearly extinct or are 3rd world? Okay. There is no "3rd gender" or "3rd sex." A doctor isn't going to perform SRS to give you a cloaca. Nice try.

>Sure there was...
Again, no there wasn't. And there doesn't need to be. Why does everyone assume they can make up their own new identity and expect everyone to be okay with it? Tell the DMV your gender position and see if they give a fuck.

The short answer is, there are two physical sexes for human reproduction. There are two gender identities, two gender roles, and two sexual preferences. You can mix and match those as you like, but there is no grey area or inbetween.

You can be female, who prefers women, in a male gender role = butch lesbian.
You can be female who prefers men in a male gender role = tomboy.
You can be a male who prefers men in a male gender role = cis gay.

But you are NOT a gendervoid pansexual.
>oooh I don't have a gender role.
Yes you do, you're clearly a bitch because you're whining about something that's fabricated.

>ooh I'm gender fluid.
In what way exactly? This is called bi-polar disorder when you go from one mood to another and one attitude to another. You sound mentally ill when you act "masculine" at work but want to be "feminine" at home.

None of these things even make sense to the people who are trying to define and defend them, and trying to explain your point by pointing out an "oppressive gender history" sound a lot like rationalizing, straw-grasping. Trying to invent something that doesn't exist and incept it into people's heads as "normal" is just not going to work. Sorry.

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>>7054277
op sounds retarded.

identity is an illusion.

fear of nuanced identity, of choice over identity, of infinite variation. of anything besides the "norm" is ultimately fear of transhumanism. its the existential fear of the fact that what it is to be human (and thus sexual and gendered) is in a constant state of flux and always has been.

i'm bisexual, i prefer boys, but sometimes i want to have sex with a girl when i think their hot, in porn or in real life or a celebrity or on some other form of media.

and i'm feminine, but sometimes i like to be masculine, i wish i could walk around as a pretty trap and have no fear, but i also sometimes want to be a bad ass martial artist.

>>7054182
in 100 years we will have probably such better technology to modulate our anatomy and identity expression that yes our current model of srs will probably be looked back on as primitive, thats not saying much, at some point scalpals will be looked back upon as we now look back on leech treatment (of which by the some alements are actually very well treated with leeches. for example "Leeches have legitimate medical uses, primarily to aid in reattachment of digits and other surgeries where there is vascular congestion. Surgeons can attach the arterial flow much better than the venous but this leads to accumulation of blood due to lack of good venous return. A leech sucks up the accumulating blood and their spit contains an anticoagulant, hirudin, as well as other biologically active products. Much easier to apply than thousands of mosquitos." https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/leech-therapy/)

will there be only two genders and two sex's and two orientations when we can change our anatomy to be clouds of nanobots floating around manifesting as what ever form we want? or the steps of human development in the interim, when we have real life furries and fucking cyborgs and god knows what? the idea that its possible to identify as such before hand isn't that rediculous.

>>7054277
>Marriage. Your sexual dimorphism isn't going to be recognized in a marital court, so... There's just ONE reason to make a choice.
I don't see why not. Marriage is obviously no longer a "man and woman" thing.

>No, it isn't. Gender ROLES are socially constructed
The entire concept of gender identity is socially constructed. The only actual thing that exists is 2 sexes with slightly different physiologies and neurological profiles.
The way we actually interact and perceive each other is socially constructed, along with our concept of what being a man or a woman entails.

>The ones that are nearly extinct or are 3rd world? Okay. There is no "3rd gender" or "3rd sex."
India isn't even that bad nowadays. And I never said 3rd sex since that is ridicolous. 3rd gender can actually exist and definitely has in some societies, along with other intermediate gender identities.

>Tell the DMV your gender position and see if they give a fuck.
Lmao, you think they don't give a fuck? I can get a drivers licence that says X in the gender field

>two physical sexes for human reproduction
okay sure

>There are two gender identities
Doesn't follow from that. There could be as many (or as little) gender identities as people collectively agree on. The entire concept of having a specific identity tied to your sex and personality is not necessary.

>two sexual preferences
I don't think this is true at all. Sexuality is much more complicated than what genitals you want your partner to have. People can have all sorts of obscure fantasies relating to power, specific objects, psychological humiliation, etc. It's much more than "two preferences"

>there is no grey area or inbetween.
Just not true. There is grey area at the genetic level (intersex) and the hormonal level (neurological variation resulting in homosexuality, transexualism, etc)

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>>7054277
Continued
>But you are NOT a gendervoid pansexual.

I didn't say I am that. A label like gendervoid is kinda obscure and confusing. Pansexual is a little more sensical I think and I might use it to describe my sexual inclination.

>You sound mentally ill when you act "masculine" at work but want to be "feminine" at home.
Maybe characterizing it as such is kinda weird, but that seems like a pretty reasonable way to feel regarding different behavior at home vs. work.

>your point by pointing out an "oppressive gender history" sound a lot like rationalizing, straw-grasping.
I think you're kinda strawmanning me here. I never used those terms, merely pointing out that people get socially pressured into performing gender correctly.

>Trying to invent something that doesn't exist
Natural variation leading to people not accepting characterization as man or woman is not "something that doesn't exist". It happens because there is significant overlap between the neurological profiles of people from both sexes, with more extreme cases resulting in greater dysphoria and a desire to live as the opposite sex. Realistically there are much more non-binary people than there are trans people because the process which causes it is more likely to occur to that degree.

>people's heads as "normal"
I don't really get this part. Do you think it's normal to be a tranny or some extremely feminine dude? It's obviously an experience that is far from average. However it IS normal to have these sorts of people around in a population simply as a result of variation.

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1. Men are equally historically oppressed to Women.

2. The entire LGBT community is hated just because they are breaking their required gender norms.

>>7053307
>most people are not at extremes, they're closer to the middle with overlap.
That's what I said, anon. That's what BETWEEN extremes means.

>>7053426
>Nope, I'm saying bisexuality is just a clusterfuck umbrella term that means nothing. If you're 60/40 in favor of guys, then you're gay, obviously.
Even if you date women 40% of the time? Won't that completely water down what being gay means, and make like a lot harder for 100/0 gays whose family insist they just haven't found the right girl?

>>7053493
>Why should I have to "pick" one and have everyone treat me based on their sexist expectations?
This comment alone shows you have no idea what being trans means. It has nothing to do with sexism and gendered expectations. You're not magically a dude just because you're a female who enjoys sports in a society that says sports are masculine.

>Gender is socially constructed.
So is money. So is law. Throw it all out, social constructs don't mean anything!

>The way people perceive you depends on the social context they are in, and so is the way the interpret your gender.
Regardless of what culture you're in, someone who perceives you as being of the female sex will generally also perceive you as the feminine gender.
A relatively masculine woman will not be perceived as a man in a culture with strict gendered roles, she'll just be perceived as a masculine woman, and likely judged as being weird, improper, and even criminal for it.

>Say that to all the cultures (past and current) which have intermediate gender identities that add up to more than the 2 binary ones we have in Western society
These "third genders" are just a means of not recognising transgender wo/men as real wo/men. It's regressive as fuck.

>Sure there was, they just didn't get to express that because they were expected to adhere to a male or female gender role.
People can and do express gender in all kinds of ways in the west. Maybe not if you live in an intensely restrictive bible belt where girls still aren't even allowed to wear pants, but in modern, urban western society, people have an insane amount of freedom with their gender expression.

To say that a masculine woman is somehow less of a woman is YOU being sexist and regressive. That's YOU being restrictive. To suggest that any minor stepping outside of these supposed strict, concrete gender extremes somehow makes you an entirely different gender is absolutely fucked up.

>>7054360
>The entire concept of gender identity is socially constructed.
I guess all those trannies who've killed themselves throughout history really are just mentally ill then, because that's what you're saying if you think gender identity isn't real.

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>>7042513
I agree with you on gender and preference but the other two are borderline retarded

>>7054622
>>7053280
This anon has said pretty much what i was trying to say.

Also if you're 60/40 guys/girls and you ther fire say that you're gay. Then what happens when you do date a women. Are you a gay man dating a woman?

>>7054446
>The entire LGBT community is hated just because they are breaking their required gender norms.
Even if we completely acted in accordance to our assigned gender roles we'd still be hated hun.
We're hated because cishets think we're disgusting inhuman scum who should be burned at the stake.

>>7054182
Ehhhhh
I disagree
I understand what you are saying
there will most likely be a much better alternative in the future, but it's intended job is to basically alleviate dysphoria. Now I dunno how successful it is across the board, I'd imagine people would still be unhappy just due to it not being real, but plenty go through with it every year and seem contented.
Now if we look at blood letting its main purpose was to cure diseases, which it just didn't do.
They will both be "primitive" medical procedures, but we know srs fulfills its intended purposes however much of the time, blood letting just doesn't period.

Here's my unpopular opinion. I've almost cut my fingers writing it:
>bullying, attacking or harrasing someone just because they're gay, lesbian, bi, trans, queer, whatever is extremaly stupid and it's only a sign of agressor's underlying issues with himself.

>romantic orientations exist
>nonbinary gender exists, as androgyne
>gay men are the worst, most degenerate group in LGBT and only make it harder for the others
>trans people are both mentally ill and not their target gender+sex
>current SRS is horrifically primitive

t. bi mtf

I like it when cishets drop in to give their perspective.

>>7054666
>This comment alone shows you have no idea what being trans means
Being trans has to do with having gender dysphoria, specifically physical discomfort about ones body. That's all there is to it.

>It has nothing to do with sexism and gendered expectations.
But socially constructed gender identity does. The only reason for it's existence is to signal a certain set of preconceived notions that help with categorizing a person. (female gender identity? this person is probably more empathetic, meek, warm, etc)

>You're not magically a dude just because you're a female who enjoys sports in a society that says sports are masculine.
I never said that. Your sex doesn't change when that happens obviously, but maybe if you are not strongly sexed in either way you could prefer to be refereed to neutrally instead of sticking to one side.

>Throw it all out, social constructs don't mean anything!
I never said that. Obviously money and law are extremely useful constructs. I don't think the same is true for gender. It's only purpose is to signal a person's sex for reproductive purposes. If you're not looking to have sex with said person there is absolutely NO reason for you even know what their gender is. Can easily "throw it out" at that point.

>These "third genders" are just a means of not recognising transgender wo/men as real wo/men.
Because they're not, they're born male/female but take on a gender identity that isn't conventional, along with it's associated role (usually some sort of spiritual significance). It actually lets people have an opportunity to express themselves at an intermediate degree which might suit them. Who's to say that dysphoria requires you to live as the opposite sex? Do you think trans people wouldn't just be complacent filling into a social space that gives them respect and a sense of belonging?

>people have an insane amount of freedom with their gender expression.
Females still get lightly pressured, and males much more so

>>7054666
>To say that a masculine woman is somehow less of a woman is YOU being sexist and regressive.
I don't see why that's the case. In terms of her behavior and neurological profile, she might very well be "less womanly" than the average woman who is more typically feminine. Does that mean she has to identify as a guy? Of course not, but if they might feel more comfortable identifying as a neutral gender instead of just calling themselves a woman.

>To suggest that any minor stepping outside of these supposed strict, concrete gender extremes somehow makes you an entirely different gender is absolutely fucked up.
Okay but then are more significant steps outside of concrete gender extremes that DO qualify as a different gender?
I mean if you go far enough along the spectrum, then you're actually just trans and the opposite gender right?
Why is it so hard to believe that this can happen to an intermediate degree to? Stepping far enough away from a gender extreme to not be considered that gender, but also not far enough to the other side to be considered the other one. A neutral middle that can't have sex stereotypes assigned to it. Sounds pretty good to me.

>>7054676
Trans is not about gender identity it's about feeling dysphoria

Gender identity and "really feeling like a girl inside" are memes that were made up to let cis people understand the experience better. It's a social identity that is entirely made up for the sake of understanding.

>>7055555
>>7055574

Read more fantasy books and stop projecting your creatively-frustrated worldbuilding nonsense onto reality.
Literally no one cares that you identify as a transmasculine demiromantic dragonkin attack helicopter who had that dream again last night. It's not real.

>>7055594
>Read more fantasy books
Barf no thanks

>Literally no one cares that you identify as a transmasculine demiromantic dragonkin attack helicopter who had that dream again last night.
Yeah keep trying to make me look ridicolous by claiming things I never said.

Non-binary is not just a logical possibility of identification based on natural variation, it's also beginning to become respected by institutions as well. I can literally obtain a government issued card that says X instead of an M or an F if I want to, all while going to my gender neutral pronoun and having everyone call me with a singular they. Shit seems pretty "real" to me :)

>>7042513
>sexuality is binary
>if you're attracted to a male or a female more so than the other
Do you know what binary means? 0 or 1 m8. There is no 0.6 deciding it's a 1 in binary.

>>7055608
>Barf no thanks
JRPGs? D&D? Netflix? I beg you, just find some other form of escapism.

>Shit seems pretty "real" to me :)
Well if that recognition means it's real, I guess in all countries where it's not recognised, it legitimately doesn't exist.
Does that mean that being gay really WAS a mental illness a while back? I mean, you could go to a psychiatrist and get diagnosed, seems pretty real to me :)

>>7055641
>0 or 1 m8. There is no 0.6 deciding it's a 1 in binary.
But that's how it works though. Even in computers that work in binary, all the intermediate values just get "rounded" up and down based on thresholds.

>>7055649
>JRPGs? D&D? Netflix? I beg you, just find some other form of escapism.
I dislike all forms of escapism and fiction

>Well if that recognition means it's real
The recognition is not proof that it's real, it's simply evidence to support that people are beginning to understand and accept it as something that actually exists.

Realistically there are more non-binary people than there are trans people because the process which causes both is more likely to happen to a lesser extent because of the distribution of variability

>>7042513
I call myself bisexual because I'm too lazy to decide whether I even like one gender enough to have sex in the first place.

>>7055669
That's not how it works in computers, 1/0 is on/off, a transistor, or it's replacement, being on or off.
There's no 0.6 turned off, because then it would be turned on.

>>7055669
>I dislike all forms of escapism and fiction
Your posts suggest otherwise. I guarentee if you drop this identity daydreaming, you'll get hungry enough to become another anime-devouring weeb like a normal tranny.

>it's simply evidence to support that people are beginning to understand and accept it as something that actually exists.
Well then there's a shit ton of evidence in the middle east that being gay deserves death.

>>7055682
>tfw voltage sliders go all the way to 127

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>>7055682
>1/0 is on/off, a transistor, or it's replacement, being on or off
Transistors don't work on ON/OFF states either, that is just an abstraction. See pic related

Any part of your PC that requires digital logic actually has threshold voltages that are set to determine a 1 or a 0 (actually 3.3V vs 0V). Almost all of the actual voltage values are intermediate, and whether a logic circuit produces a HI or LO signal depends on the rounding off of the intermediate value.
For example a node with voltage 0-0.8V might be considered a logic LO, a node with voltage 1.5V-3.3V might be considered logic HI, everything in between will result in an error bit that needs to be corrected or resent

>>7055685
>Your posts suggest otherwise
Idk why you would think that. I only ever enjoyed reading non-fiction and playing competitive games. Fantasy doesn't really interest me.

>Well then there's a shit ton of evidence in the middle east that being gay deserves death.
There is evidence that gay people exist every where due to natural variation, that much is not to be doubted. How they are treated by others has nothing to do with that. Same with non-binary people, they exist everywhere but how they are treated/recognizing by others is independent of that. The more developed countries are only recently beginning to acknowledge their existence which is what I was pointing out.

>>7042513

I agree partially.

Socially speaking it makes the most sense to regard lesbians and gays as definitive social identities as they are the most understood by the majority.

Despite how you define yourself as a man, the majority opinion will remain that you are gay if you find that you are into men.

The B and T are primarily existent due to pop culture and the social efforts of women.

I don't think they should be done away with though, as I feel the B and T represent an introduction to the community for young children figuring themselves out.

Young men and women may identify as transgendered to figure out they are male or female later, and they may identify as bisexual when at first questioning their sexuality.

So I view them as a way to learn yourself. I also see a transgender identity for some folk as a way to build confidence in themselves.

And I mean, if someone suffers some real physical damage in their drawers, if their parts aren't normative, or they fall somewhere in between the stereotypical form of male and female in the public's eye then perhaps it's alright that as women they identify.

Because they may enjoy their lives better playing the role of a woman.

>>7055705
>Idk why you would think that. I only ever enjoyed reading non-fiction and playing competitive games. Fantasy doesn't really interest me.

...Are you just fucking around or do you really not get the joke? Are you really just following along with this topic seemingly brought out out of fucking nowhere?

>>7055745
>do you really not get the joke?
This one

>Are you really just following along with this topic seemingly brought out out of fucking nowhere?
I'm literally just responding to people who are making assertions about me. The topic (at least a few posts ago) was about gender that isn't 2 categories, which is related to the thread.

>>7055755

My apologies, all this time I thought you were just being obtuse, turns out you're legitimately retarded. I'm dropping out of this nonsense.

> People who identify as Pansexual have their hearts in the right place, but are being innocently insensitive

>Asexuals should be invited to the table

>Namefagging is alright if you only use that name in one thread/gen to provide continuity. Using said name outside of the thread/gen should be a bannable offense.

> It is possible to be disabled and LGBT.

> All girls should be on the pill, regardless of sexuality.

> A Male Contraceptive pill is a damn good idea.

>LGBTs should have marriage rights so that they can be as miserable as breeders are.

>Marriage is stupid and the only difference between a married couple and a long-term committed couple is an expensive ritual

>>7055844
>A Male Contraceptive pill
It's called HRT

>>7055844
> It is possible to be disabled and LGBT.
wut
who would disagree with that?

> All girls should be on the pill, regardless of sexuality.
>t. not a doctor
>or an enviromental scientist (protip, pill pee is polluting our oceans and turning all the fish gay. Not good when combined with overfishing)

>>7055369
that's not unpopular you mug.

>>7056489
lurk moar and you might agree

>>7049167
By identifying as an mtf trans, you're essentially admitting there is a binary.

You were m (let's call that the 1) and now you're f (the 0).

>>7049167
Wait. I re-read the top of your post. I agree.

Carry on.

>>7042513
>gender is binary, male or female - pick only one, there is no "other" or "neither.
Agreed.
>sexuality is binary also,
Disagree. You might like one more then the other, but a guy you'd 49.5% gay doesn't really fit under the straight label, since he still fucks dudes.

>>7042513
>Attack helicopter is a valid gender irl.
Anybody who disagrees can 1v1 me and my 16 hellfire missiles.

>>7042513
>What is a hermaphrodite

>>7061192
This op
what are your thoughts on people who are born with vagivags n benises ?

>>7055896
>> It is possible to be disabled and LGBT.
>wut
>who would disagree with that?

Apparently, Australian LGBT safe spaces. Y'see,most of them don't seem to be wheelchair accessible and if someone who is disabled manages to get up the stairs, they get comments like"It's great that you got up here, but this is an LGBT safe space"

It gets worse if you have a disability and attempt to hook-up. Some people think you can catch cerebral palsy. That's not even getting into the whole issue of people with Downs that have sexual thoughts, let alone being gay.

My psyche is not gendered and only I can know that.

anyone who disagrees is deluded.

>>7042513
Unpassable trannies are still their birth gender to me, but i pity them so i play along, can't really see them as men\women though
ps i'm a tranny too

>>7042513
>and Transgender persons do not deserve to piggyback off the hard work of the homosexual community's fight for equality
lolololol. the LGBT movement wouldn't exist in the first place if it wasn't for trans people

T aren't piggybacking LGB, it's the other way around.

>>7065311
>"It's great that you got up here, but this is an LGBT safe space"

Haha, what the fuck? That's so shit.

But yeah, I'm with you for the rest of it. I'd probably put that down as a general 'it's possible to be disabled and sexual,' I imagine straights would have the same issues. It's fucked.

I accept nonbinary identities. If you tell me to call your zir/zim or hir or even just they/them I will.

>>7065311
Umm, what state?

I have never seen that near me.

The one I went to had wheelchair access and actively included disabled LGBT people.

>>7042513

>sexuality is binary also, you're attracted to a male or a female more so than the other - pick only one
>all other preferences and choices are attention seeking memes

Tell that to my ex bf and my ex bf.
I don't make a big deal out of it IRL, I just don't care what's between your legs.

>>7042513
>Unpopular Opinion
>gender is binary, male or female - pick only one, there is no "other" or "neither.

Why are male gays so retarded?

>>7051721
Do you know how mnay doctors, psychiatrists, and therapists you will see before you can even CONSIDER SRS?
If they know you "only want to change it because you can", they will NOT let you. You need referrals from medical officials to do fucking anything pertaining to transitioning, much less SRS.

Also, do you know how fucking expensive SRS even is? You could buy a badass car with that money.

Men and boys are at a disadvantage socially.