tfw you turn out to be a transbian
>>7019899
kys my man
>>7019899
I don't get how anyone turns out into a transbian.
At first I was into girls but after 2 years on hormones I just got more and more attracted to guys to the point I just came to accept guys are better, it took a while though but guys are hotter and make feel all tingly.
>>7019932
I look at guys and I'm like "why would I want THAT?" Girls are beautiful and qt.
>>7019932
Honestly men terrify me. I'm so glad I still like women after hrt, because statically speaking, dating a cis dude is the most dangerous thing a trans girl can do
>>7019899
>tfw turned out bi
>but also a hon, so I can't satisfy my desire for a man
>>7019973
Go get some bbc or something girl
>>7019944
if you've made a genuine effort to appreciate the male form, and it just doesn't do it for you, that's obviously perfectly fine. but just like >>7019932 , i started out only into girls, and now im pretty much completely straight. i could do stuff with a girl in a threesome, or in a club to turn on the boys or something, but i wouldnt wanna date one.
once i got all addled w/ estrogen, man pheromones can literally get me off on their own. (yes, i ~literally~ came from smelling my bf once.)
it's wondrous.
>>7020000
>Ehh I feel totally safe and protected and cuddly and stuff
Sure until one of them freaks out when you tell them you're trans and caves your skull in and gets off Scott free with a trans panic defense
>>7019999
Fucking eww. Especially bad since I've actually been knocked out by a pack of three niggers (before transition, so not because I was a hon and they clocked me) and every summer a bunch of the faggots come hang out on my street. The sons of bitches need to be burned off the face of the earth.
>>7020017
that's why you tell them first. sure you get insulted/blocked or whatever, but you don't get murderated.
>>7019899
fag
>>7020017
>Sure until one of them freaks out when you tell them you're trans and caves your skull
lol, that's some /r9k/ tier excuse to explain irrational fears of people.
Abusive relationships happen to all genders, do you think the lesbian wifebeater stories around here are just memes?
>>7019899
>latex
sorry anon, only leather for this girl.
>>7020067
I've been in an abusive relationship with a girl before, I know it's true, but she never got close to actually killing me, she'd just hit me a few times, come to her senses and apologize. I'd much rather be in an abusive relationship with a girl than a guy, they'll fucking kill you
>>7020121
maybe just dont find an abusive man
>>7019899
Literary Chris Chan.
you know what to do.
>>7020290
>be transbian = AGP
>be straight = AGP.
Being MtF is suffering, I hope becoming a nun is accepted by the church one day.
>Be horribly repressed bi MtF
>Finally accept being bi once I get past the "GOTTA BE NORMAL" phase and start transitioning
>Still horribly intimidated by masculine guys due to getting bullied and picked on growing up, and just don't find hairy dudes attractive regardless
>Develop huge trap/femboy/bishounen fetish as a result
>Nearly all of them are super gay
This is the worst hell.
guys you don't have to be mad just cause you're all "straight" ultra hons
>>7020310
>wantin to be a nun
A G P
>>7020340
Dw anon, you'll find that not totally gay femboy that's biscum ;)
>>7020340
AGP
>tfw guys gross me out and girls make me dysphoric
>>7020340
The solution is to go to a psych to cope with your trauma with men so that you can feel safe with one.
hot
Peeps just need to embrace the fact that Transbians are the pinnacle of MTFdom.
Gold star for liefff
------
Seriously though. People shit on lesbian MTFs like there is some special totem pole of orientation and gender combos. . .
We are all here because we are faggots of some shape or form. To tear each other apart is fucking dumb. *(Particularly for transpeople, as we are already a super-minority)*
IMO most of the harassment boils down to people trying to carve out some sort of superiority as big fish in a small pond or some-nonsense.
Grow up. Everyone's orientation is legit. That is why we are here.
If you wanna cry about how you think one is better or worse than another go back to tumbler.
K Thx Bye.
I'm bisexual. Though I'm attracted to men and to women in different ways. I don't know how to explain it, it just feels differently.
Also, I don't like guys who are too hairy or overly masculine, and I think there are generally more unattractive guys than unattractive girls. The examples of guys I find attractive are Hank Green, Skallagrim(despite the beard) and Colin Furze.
Having a relationship with another trans woman might also be nice. Not so sure about trans guys, since post-transition ones are usually hairy and go for a hyper masculine look.
Do I count as a transbian?
>>7022410
I wonder why gay FtMs don't get as much hate as transbians. Though it might be because trans men are generally less noticeable.
>>7020310
>tfw agp and only love myself
still suffering that I cant be a girl
>>7020310
iktf.
On the bright(?) side, current year (+1) religious orders are fucked beyond saving (esp. contemplative ones). Pretty much just glorified social workers.
>>7019899
What a horrible day that was for me. Disphoria and dispassion will kill me. Too bad I'm not 15 anymore I'd make one hell of an angsty goth chick.
>tfw bi before hrt
>tfw preferred men before hormones
>tfw slowly shift towards women while being on hormones
>tfw after two and a half years on hormones I really prefer women and am basically a lesbian
Fuck
I don't want to be a transbian its gross
I want to want men dicking me down, I don't want to desire boobs and girls sitting on my face, and passionately making out and tongueing a real girl
I feel so disgusted with myself that this is my desire
Also tfw no gf
>>7024537
>I don't want to be a transbian its gross
that is called internalized homophobia and it can be cured.
just be you.
who cares what other people think?
>>7024549
>cured
If I could just be a cis-het that'd be fine
Yeah I have a lot of internalized trans and homo phobia but
Meh
Idk
I care
And every time I talk to a girl I fee like some kind of creep predator
>"if you've made a genuine effort to appreciate the male form, and it just doesn't do it for you, that's obviously perfectly fine."
"Just try to not be a faggot. If you fail, it's fine, but at least try!"
I like girls and that's okay!! I mean... I've at least TRIED EVERYTHING I CAN to like dick...!!
Wew..
men
>get me off (in fantasy)
>gross me out
>don't want to kiss or cuddle them
women
>don't get me off
>really like kissing, cuddling, and being intimate
transbian?
>>7026730
Have you ever tried to date a guy or has one approached you?
>>7026730
You're a transbian. You fantasise about men because it gives you the feeling of being feminine. Let me guess, the men you're fantasising about usually do not have a distinct personality or face!
It's not the men you think about that get you off but the feeling of playing the feminine part.
How long are you on HRT? It usually goes away after you feel confident in your femininity.
>>7029645
no
1. i've never dated anyone
2. i'm ugly
3. i'm unpassable
part of the reason i take hormones is because typical male characteristics, particularly of mid-late 20s men skeeve me out
>>7029725
>the men you're fantasising about usually do not have a distinct personality or face!
yes that would be largely correct
1 year. i'm too old for real results though
>>7024537
Can we trade? I don't like buttstuff. Or at least it makes me uncomfortable.
>>7020009
How do I up my pheromone game?
>>7020340
Sounds like you need a buff, hairy dude to break you in and teach you how to love men
>>7019899
>tfw you thought you were gay when you were younger but then thought you were bi and now you're not sure
>tfw thought i was a tranny but 2 years into hrt /serms i just don't care anymore
>the hrt made me go back to gay from bi
>still unsure about both gender and sexuality
i'm going to drop acid at some point and try to figure all of this shit out
at least i'm cute now
>>7019932
I already like men a lot more but am still kind of bi
after hrt will I only be into men?
>>7035133
nobody fucking knows man there's no research on it at all
>>7036827
Catholics don't re-baptize you though. They consider baptism legitimate regardless of the denomination that baptized you. So if you're converting from Lutheran for example, they would probably want to see your original baptismal certificate. Of course you could lie and say you were never baptized.
>>7029725
>Let me guess, the men you're fantasising about usually do not have a distinct personality or face!
I definitely get this. I also fantasy about wearing specific outfits and looking sexy. I like women and want their bodies and stuff like that. AGP Transbian behavior.
On the other hand, I love dick and balls like crazy. I love sucking dick and I love swallowing cum. It tastes so good. I also love hairy men and hairy man butt/legs. There were a few specific men I fell in love with. I was in love with one for 3 years. We had sex and I blew him weekly. I still masturbate to him and his dick/legs. But my heart misses being around him. He was really nice to me, was really funny and always laughed at my jokes. We really clicked outside of sex.
>>7019932
Complete opposite happened to me, I used to be into guys, starting HRT made me bi and I dated another MtF. Now that I have had SRS and transition is over I am strictly into girls. I never had sex with any guy I dated cause I couldnt stomach their penis. First time I had sex was with another girl after my SRS and it was pretty much the best experience ever.
>this thread
>injecting hormones influences your sexual orientation
lmao, idiot fags on 4chan!
>>7020021
hey, i am black guy, and I am sorry.
>>7036741
cis male
>>7036951
I really really want a trans girlfriend who appreciates my hairy butt and likes strong legs...
>>7019899
Men are stupid, I have lots of male friends and they just don't understand women. I couldn't be with one. But anon, making men cum is really fun and rewarding. If you are good at it you get to see a different side of men... At least until they get bored.
Don't write yourself off as transbian just yet, leave that bi door open. As a mtf it's going to be hard for you to stop the urges to be a dirty slut when around men. you may not feel it now but it will happen. Estrogen is a hell of a drug!
Don't repress your urges <3
>>7038507
Nice bait
>>7037089
>black guy
The word you're looking for is "nigger."
This ain't Reddit honey; we're not afraid to call a spade a spade.
>>7038823
>un-ironicly praising cuckchan
haognuarryoo m8e?
>>7019899
Masks are great when it comes down to hiding a hon face. I'm sure that traps and trannies use them during sex so make them seem more woman like.
>>7036827
Since I realized I was trans I realized I like twinks. But I don't like guys I don't even want to be one but I have had a crush on my committed pan friend for like 6 years, but only because of who he is and not for his sexual ability. And he's a furry. I'm agp for God's sake dudes are gross.
Basically this:
>>7020590
> Wants to be girl.
> Always repressed.
> 20 now.
> Guys are gross and hairy.
> Girls are petité and elegant.
> Put lesbians on the biggest pedestal, as last and purest form of Cute deep love and attraction.
> Cannot escape from that tought.
> I am a dude. I Will never experience that perfection. I'll always be gross and hairy.
> I Want to get closer to perfection.
> I Am the definition of falling for the meme.
> I am aware of that, But the feeling never stops.
I've tried to look at IRL fat tumblr disgusting tier lesbians, to remove the idea of "flawlessness" and the idealization out of my head, but it doesn't Work.
Is there any solution to this? beside high velocity lead injections?
Help. I don't want to be on this ride anymore. I don't like this ride. halp.
Is unacceptable to be a transbian? Or is just a meme?
Somebody can give me their sincere thoughts?
>>7047738
Both.
>>7047745
why
>>7047751
Because.
>>7047738
it's not unacceptable
if you're trans and into guys you have to deal with creepy chaser dick and it's difficult to find someone who's okay with a serious relationship. that being said it's easy as fuck to find sex
if you're trans and into women you have to deal with some women not seeing you as really female. having a dick means you're a no-go for a lot of people. i think it's easier for transbians to find long-term relationships though
no idea what FTMs go through
>>7019899
tfw no rich and powerful man will ever grab you by the pussy
Why does it seem like transbians are always fugly and don't pass very well? Almost every single transbian i've ever seen has been some weeaboo nerd that just looks like a dweeby dude with long hair. On the other hand, all the trans women that actually do pass and look good tend to be straight. Is there a reason for this?
I'm not sure how anyone could like masculinity. I'm a femboi and I love femininity to the core.
>>7047738
It is pretty much socially unacceptable to be a transbian. Cis people will say, "You transitioned to become a girl, to love girls? Isn't that just straight?"
>>7047996
My hypothesis is straight trans women have less masculinized brains because attraction to women is a biologically male trait. Not saying transbians are straight men, I'm guessing that in terms of masculinization it goes like this from least masculinized to most:
Cishet women = CAIS women < cis lesbians = straight MtFs < transbians < gay men < cishet men
Not including FtMs for simplicity's sake.
>>7047777
CHECKEM
>>7048117
I saw people saying this but I don't understand it pretty well
I would may say
if I see me as a girl? If I would like to be cute and even use femenine gestures? If a want to be sensitive? If I want to talk of my feelings? If Im not emotionally strong like most men can be? I mean, if a want the femenine role, and if I don't like the appearance of my body because (again) I would like to be cute and delicate?
Then it would be socially acceptable?
>>7020139
I've only ever been abused by a male-- mentally instead of physically. He'd fast, he'd threaten suicide. He'd force me away from friends. He'd lie to people I cared about to get them to not trust me anymore. He'd say shit that would make me go fucking berzerk, physically near the end, and slightly after.
At the end of it all, I was broken. I still am broken. I speak to maybe two people now.
I'll never have the body I want.
I'll never have the friends I had.
I'll never be who I say I am.
I'll likely never move to Norway, like I dream of.
I'm a literal fucking nobody.
>>7048117
the best of our ability to know says the brain masculinity spectrum looks more like this:
cishet man = transbian > cisbian > cisgay man > cishet woman = transhet woman
and thus the ftm equivalent:
cishet man = transhet man > cisbian > cisgay man > cishet woman = ftgay
i suspect the literature is missing something big and that there's an actual difference between ftgays and cishet women/transbians and cishet men, but the current state of the research supports both the 'trans = super gay' popular perception and the hsts/a*p typology
>>7047996
I think its largely because transbians tend to transition later than straight MtFs, though this is likely to change as trannies in general become more accepted. Excluding people whose sexuality changed during HRT, straight MtFs lived as gay men prior to transitioning, so they're more likely to be familiar with the idea of transitioning in the first place, and more likely to encounter positive examples of MtFs instead of just seeing them treated as a joke on TV like most people did growing up in the 90s and early 00s. Also, going from being seen as a gay man to being seen as a straight woman would mean a greater level of social acceptance if they go stealth or if the people who know are ok with it, while for transbians it would be the opposite even assuming they pass.
>>7049204
Sadly, no. This is what I have and I am disgusting. I'm built like a refrigerator and make a decent guy but one homely lady. But I just want to feel cute. And I feel things way too much, I'm told I have a hard time with criticism. Why do I have the need to be seen this way? Why do I reject sex when it's offered? Why must I feel so negatively about my future in any gender. I feel like hrt would be beneficial but being a gender bender doesn't get me off I feel like I fucked up tho and told my GP how depressed I am. Do SSRI'S help you cope with never being attractive? Funny, I'm much more scared of what Prozac will do to my mind than estrogen lol.
>>7046954
You should have stayed a straight man with a lesbian fetish. It's very common.
Now the only lesbians that will want you are tumblr tier fatties. Enjoy.
>>7036844
>Catholics don't re-baptize you
generally not but depending on the denomination that did it their intention may be so far removed from that necessary for the sacrament that it doesn't count.
>>7036827
>you could probably be a nun if you convert to being Catholic, no?
It's not so much a matter of records as of being visibly trans. Even if the broader Church were okay with it (and there's every indication that they're not) the nuns in the specific community that you want to join would have to be okay with it too.
Probably only the more liberal places would be okay with trannies, but being liberal they're going to be really shitty (new Mass, new Divine Office, no habits, blithe disregard for the traditions of the order in favor of being materially useful to society).
The more conservative communities (i.e. the ones you'd actually want to join) likely think trannies = pervert men in dresses.
>>7046954
>wants to be a girl
>has gender dysphoria
>"Muh, I am just idolizing women."
>"Muh, I've fallen for the 'meme'."
I recommend some more years of repression!
You don't need to realize your own gender dysphoria or even think about the possibility of being trans.
Don't get a therapist!
You'll be a great hon in your future.
One of us!
One of us!
One of us!
being a transbian is my biggest fear
i've only really had crushes on a few guys before but never a girl
i don't want to be a degenerate
>>7050174
I Did not do anything at all as now.
>>7050906
Yey, repression!
Still, I'm too much of a loser to do anything at all with my life. So be it.
Seriously. I have no idea on what to do.
>>7050934
Being a straight tranny is my fear. Guys are scary and always wanna dom. I'm sick of feeling like everyone's little bitch. They want sex too much anyway.
>>7050828
they would also think trannies = most stereotypical susan's hon possible
given this board is universally people who started before 30 and near universally before 25, anyone post-op here who isn't completely awful fucked should be able to pass in a convent
also, keep in mind that mtf visibility is a relatively recent phenomenon. pic related is called a hon on this board, but transitioned in the 70s and lived near stealth for decades because nobody was able to identify her features as trans (admittedly she looked less hon when she was younger). an older convent where the nuns have been secluded from the outside world for longer might be just what you need.
>>7053681
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Ever since my dad got after me as a kid I just can't be attracted to men
>>7053886
speak for yourself, youngshit
>>7054667
How old are you?
>>7053681
Lol I'm a cis-woman and I've never met a guy willing to dom. They all turn into total bitches when I demonstrate any kind of assertive behavior which I often do because I'm totally into female domination. They would just lay, spread their legs and moan. Also all my boyfriends (there were 4 of them) were afraid of pain and used to tell me that I was being too rough with them when I just did things I'd like to experience myself. Not that I like dominant guys, I'm just into pain. So I'd say I expressed more masculine behavior than my cis-male boyfriends. Thre're lots of meek men around.
>>7055838
Straight cis men are all stupid lazy niggers imo
>>7055838
>Thre're lots of meek men around.
No kidding. But that's what happens when you brainwash from birth for them to be feminised.
>>7055911
>be me
>be a guy with an unfortunate (read: female) physical setup
>be extremely sexually dominant and aggressive since before I was actually a sexual being at all
>be into the weirdest, most /d/eviant kinks from a purely dominant and sadistic perspective
>be completely turned off and disgusted by femdom and only into intensely dominating women
>start t
>start jacking off 5 times a day
>mostly get off to hard femdom and the same fucked up kinks as before but as a sub
please advise
>>7055838
>tfw my fetish is actually physical pain itself
>slapping, punching, kicking, cutting, burning, everything is extremely arousing to me
>not just in fantasy, but in reality (which is how I discovered it)
>most aroused I've ever been was when I got into an accident that snapped the bone in my arm in half
I'm afraid to seek out people to satisfy this fetish because a) I'm horribly horribly ashamed of myself and b) I don't want to get carried away and get more handicapped or even die
>>7055940
Not sure about breaking someone's bones (I've never broke one myself) but other shit is fine for me too. I'd like a guy to ride my strapon, slap me hard, pull my hair, scratch, bite and choke me. I'd do the same for him (that's basically how all my intercourses with men are - me riding them, calling them names and forcing them to suck on my fingers).
I'd also like to be flogged bloody and cut, I like blood. I'm not submissive at all, only displaying sadomasochistic tendencies. And every guy I meet turns out to be a tender flower crying over one small bite...
>>7055998
You'd probably be disappointed in me then. I'm assuming you don't like trannies anyway, but I really don't want to hurt anyone. I don't even kill insects that get into my house, sometimes I'll waste 20 minutes or more trying to capture a bug safely so I can release it outside. I'm basically a giant pussy, I don't understand why I get off to pain and violence and gore so much but I only do when it applies to me. I'm all masochism, no sadism
>>7056067
You are somewhat right, I'm not attracted to manly men and FtMs. But I like cis-girls and regular skinny guys who are not overly masculine. Though I've never met a MtF or a femboy in person, I'm sure I'd like them too.
But I'd prefer my partner to be kind of power bottom. Their bitchiness would also justify me beating them up because I'm like that too - I can't do any significant harm to an innocent person who was all sweet with me. I'd be disappointed with their pain intolerance but back off immediately. Sometimes I imagine a guy trying to rape me and thus giving me an excuse to beat him up pretty bad while being hurt by him too. That scene with a villain Santana and a tough girl Dahl in the last Riddick movie got me pretty aroused.
>>7055838
>hunt down meek men
>feel entitled to hurt them because it gets you off
>get angry that you've "never met a guy willing to dom"
psychopath tbqh
>>7055838
it's your batshit feminism that trains men to feel uncomfortable taking charge. You crazy cunts developed an ideology to shrink your own dating pool so you can have something to cry about.
>>7056131
I don't understand pain and blood fetishes. Seems so boring and edgy fag bullshit that girls who stir their cunts to bloody vampire shows like.
Two people who are totally into hard fucking and slapping each other around and putting her in a headlock and stuff till shes got a bloody nose? that's incredibly hot, but it has nothing to do with pain or blood. It's something else entirely, kinda animalistic. I can get behind that but this dumb "let me tie you up so I can hurt you" stuff is so boring to me.
ITT: loonies who need to focus on only getting off to images and videos on a digital screen and that's it.
>>7059834
forced meme is not going to catch on pham
>>7059834
I agree. A bunch of porn addicted weirdos who are better off with their porn addiction than trying to have a meaningful relationship.
threads like these make me almost agree that LGBT are just sociopathic perverts pumping their bodies full of hormones so they can live out their porn fantasies
fucking repulsive human beings, you should all be ashamed.
>>7058503
It's not that I "hunt" them intentionally, we're just attracted to each other naturally. I mean insecure guys just find me hot while I get off on their emotional fragility. If I'd met a person like that guy Tyrell from Mr. Robot, I'd be totally into it. Two psychopaths abusing each other and not approaching normal people, what could be better?
>>7059708
Well I'm Russian and feminism is not that big a thing here. There are fuckloads of homophobic and misogynistic people around.
>>7059734
I really despise vampires and all that aesthetics. And yeah there's nothing more arousing than some wrestling that ends up in bruises, bitemarks and scrathes.
>>7058503
Also forgot to mention that dominant masculine men are totally off-putting. There should be something weak in a man for him to attract me just like a great white can sense a tiny droplet of blood. But I want a man to be willing to resist me. Maybe that's psychopathic. I realize my expectations are pretty unrealistic, though.
>>7050043
I live in Norway, just interested to hear why you dream of this?
I'd like to know who dates transbians. Cis lesbians or bisexual? I mean is a transbian more likely to end up being with a bisexual or a lesbian?
>>7066829
I'm a transbian and my girlfriend is a cis lesbian