Hiro's Consenus Agreement

Ban all white cis males

>>6945962
I do not think that would be the best idea. That is basically just /gaygen/, and they are not really acting like cancer on this board.

>>6945955
We need a sub-containment board for trannies

>>6945955
bot that posts links to every neurological sex study and study on transition outcomes to threads made by people who do not understand why transition is an accepted medical treatment
face detector to see if pictures are of cara delevingne that filters out those that are
penalties for posting 50 separate /mtfg/s

>>6945955
Some users are proposing banning trap threads from /a/ and moving them to /lgbt/. What do you guys think of that?

>>6945980
traps aren't lgbt so no
if they also happen to be gay no one is stopping them from posting in gaygen though (like literally no one)

Also, recall that it is fine if you think that the current situation is fine, but only use this thread for discussion. We will get some proposals then send it to a vote.

>>6945966
>>6945974
Also, Hiro needs stated reasons to make a decision.

>>6945966
/trans/

Reason = half the posts here are trans, trap threads on every board, contain it

>>6945966
>this happens
>/lgbt/ becomes one of the least active boards on the site
>trans threads will most likely still happen anyway

>>6946006
>>6946002
I am inclined to agree with these anons, this board is slow enough that we can easily keep both types of threads on here, separation will only open the doors for the /b/-tier trolls to destroy us both. We are better together.
>>6945985
>>6946002
That would make more sense than moving trap threads to here, but I still disagree with the creation of a separate /trans/ board. I do no know if traps threads are an issue on /a/, and some users appear to be disputing the consensus, so it will ikely not occur anyway.
>>6946003
Banning gay guys is likely to destroy the board in a similar matter to a /trans/ annexation. Banning general threads in an option, potentially.
>>6945974
I think the bot could be done better by an FAQ post stickied like some other boards have.
Avatar-posting in already banned, we can request additional enforcement, and you guys should precipitate in the discussions in the /qa/ thread about 4chan moderation in general.
New /mtfg/ threads are only made due to hitting the image limit. I think removing it would be a better idea, or at least increasing it, although that should be more discussed in /qa/, as Hiro would likely want to ahve a more consistent policy across multiple boards on such a matter, although it can be done on any one board.

>>6945955
Let trannys post their boobs

>>6946002
This. Please. And why do we need a blue board rule too? We have /hm/ for porn dumping, there's no good it does.
Oh, and the shitposting part, call the tranny board "Intersex and Transgender" so we can ironically call it /IT/, half of them are in computer science anyways

>>6946039
I do think better intersex representation could be a good idea, but I still dispute creating /trans/ and annexing threads to there.

>>6945966
>>6946002
>>6946039
Lots of lgb sees the front page and rarely is the content non trans. Kind to alienating to see content that doesn't apply to you at all. why would anyone post on a board that is not for them? You actually get more gay discussion on /hm/ and /soc/ than /lgbt/.

also if you are only taking votes from this board of course the trans users would want it to stay the same, they're doing just fine.

now if everything stays the same that's not bad per se. but i only ever post on /wcg/ and I don't think this board offers anything to me specifically except that gen. rarely i'll see other threads that apply to me but it's very very rare.

>>6945955
Keep /pol/ in /pol/

GET RID OF BLUE BOARD BULLSHIT

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Disable name/tripfagging, add flags, create user IDs persistent only in threads (prevents samefagging). Disable post number so it can break the archive. Add the robot from /r9k/ and it should break the generals as well.

This should fix this board. Trannies will be less agp and less vocal as they won't be able to create an identity that is persistent.

This is the only way to fix this board.

t. tranny

>>6945955
Give the board to the trannies, merge gay with /pol/

give trans there own board please.

>>6946171
Now that is a much more sensible proposal than the one proposed by the others of annexing. I do not think there are any other boards that have disabled post numbers, it might not even be possible, and I do not think it should be done. Adding the robot would be good, but in /r9k/ it eventually resulted in users making only small edits in reposts anyway, and I do not know if Hiro would want to implement the bot elsewhere. Having mods remove general threads could be done. Persistent IDs in a particular thread sounds good. Names and tripcodes can have uses sometimes, but I guess we always have to make some compromises.

>>6946231

/b/ has had post numbers disabled in the past in order to fight cancer from gets in the past.

Names and trips are against the spirit of the site and just chan culture in general. Even disabling linking (with the exception of YouTube and other white listed sites) would also help immensely.

Honestly, I think I have the best solution and have been saying it for ages. Tripfags are cancer. I'd maybe make this a nsfw board as a compromise, but then that might make all the anime posters aka agp hon tripfags from mtfg shit the board up even more.

lgbt should be made a NSFW board

>>6946361
why the hell would anyone want that? many are already complaining that they feel like there are too many trans threads, if this board is NSFW it would be shit up by trap and trans porn threads all the time.

Hiro needs to get rid of Cara poster.

>>6946374
Just because it's NSFW doesn't mean it'll get flooded in porn. /r9k/ manages to avoid that well enough. I suppose that may be due in part to the robot, but I like this >>6946171 suggestion of adding the robot to /lgbt/ anyway to keep the amount of repetitive bullshit down. To be fair though, I like most of the suggestions in that post.

>>6946171
seconded
also ban cara poster

>>6945955

Unban anyone who was given a lengthy ban for something stupid. I've had numerous friends get banned for weeks or months for telling some annoying tripfag to kill themselves.

>>6945966

LGBT needs to be divided into..

/gay/ - for men who're gay/bi/curious
/lez/ - for women who're gay/bi/curious
/trans/ - for mtfs and ftms and all other gender benders

there doesn't need to be a bisexual board...

>>6946431

Division will just make it so /trans/ is the only active board.

See solutions outlined here: >>6946171

>>6946436

/hm/ should become not just about porn and should allow all gay male topics to be posted there, problem solved.

Make this a /lbt/ board and send all gay men to /hm/.

>>6946441

Honestly, no. Just make the room forced anonymous as outlined above and it fixes all the issues with the current board without fracturing the community 100%. Yes, the tripfags will be angry at first but the quality of threads and posts will go up. We might actually see where our ideals intersect instead of being divided based purely on the fact of cis vs trans.

Forced anonymous is the true way we should be. This board needs it more than any other board besides /soc/ in the past.

>>6946452
if we do have forced anonymous and ids (which i don't particularly have an issue with) can we keep post numbers? breaking the archive sounds stupid and unnecessary
also i have no problem with generals (though ftmg is the least cancerous general at least when caraposter isn't stinking it up), the problem is when there are five different mtf generals on the first couple pages because of some meaningless schism
and yes, ban caraposter

>>6946452

That will just lead to more avatar posting unless "no selfies" was a rule. Someone like Circe will just constantly post webms of himself so everyone knows its him.

>>6946460

Breaking the archive is absolutely necessary. This is not Reddit, you should be for free speech and people should not be afraid of having their posts catalogued.

If we add our own version of the robot it would be easy to prevent trannies from shitting up the board so much.

>>6946461

So then you ban them when they attention whore and over do it. Everyone hates Circe anyway. She's shit up gaygen, femgen, and mtfgen. I would not be surprised if she shit up ftmgen and cislesgen.

Sure, post a picture of yourself sometimes. But when Circe starts avatar fagging, give her a short break.

I added all your suggestions to a POLL


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>>6946475
fuck breaking the archive
if you post anonymously there is no fear of getting your post attached to you.

>forced anon
>per-thread IDs

literally all you need

/trans/ as its own board might work, but only if it's called /hon/, no board should be more than 3 letters.

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>>6946500

Unless people start using images to identify themselves.

>>6946500

gb2reddit m8. We need all of those measures, it would make the board great. The flags add context, the robot would be preferred but it is understood if it cannot be implemented.

Why do you want the archive to exist? It serves no purpose.

>>6946508

And if it happens too much you give them a small break like in other boards. You have to do it within reason.

>>6946509

This is far-fetched. But I really like the layout of GodLikeProductions & lunaticoutpost

I wish all of 4chan would become more like them.

>>6946486
why is there no "none of the above" option? that makes the poll pretty much nonsensical.

>>6946475
>So you ban them
because that's stopped maki, right?

>>6946513

It would stop most attention whores. Most people do not know how to evade bans.

All generals should be banned.

That's what ruined this board.

Having mtfg general, gay general, lez general, etc. It automatically creates division! We don't need separate board. All generals need to be banned.

I also feel threads should only last up to an hour before they get purged and deleted. Seriously what is the use of having threads go on and on all day or even weeks!

>>6946515
it takes a minimal knowledge of computers really
i've heard phones make it completely effortless

>>6946516
the generals are arguably containment threads. the issue is that truly shitty threads outside of the generals dominate, which makes it hard to get people to look at threads outside of the generals.

>>6946520

You're giving most of the people more credit than they deserve. Okay, so they have a phone. Fuck it, ban it too. They move to another tower? Great, it got them out of the house.

>>6946508
??? don't do it then
how would you fix this anyway? i'm fine with not even having ids at all honestly.

>>6946509
the robot is pointless. all anyone is put the duplicate text plus orriiginal
the archive stores a lot of good content in several threads
if reddit were forced anonymous you might have a point but that place is pure cancer

>>6946530
i was under the impression that a phone's ip changed often and very easily and that 4chan banning a phone wasn't possible.

>>6946536
people already use images to identify themselves.

>>6946536

The reason the place of cancer of because it's a bunch of usernames with a persistent database of previous posts.

The database has no reason to exist. Anything important such as hormone research, etc is being documented by people in the generals anyway.

If anything this will help with community as it will force only thing important information to be documented.

This is an anonymous site and has been since I came here in 03. Tripping is literally never really needed. There is a reason it gets disabled on so many boards. The archive must be destroyed. It serves no purpose. Again, if you want documentation head to another site.

>>6946545
right, so how exactly do you propose to stop that. it's not a valid argument against forced anonymous

>>6946548
i agree that force anonymous is a good addition. i disagree on forced archive breaking

>>6946545

You can ban IP ranges m8. You can ban evade on a phone but only do much. Eventually, you are shit out of luck. This'll just force people to leave their fortress of solitude. If anything it'll help.

>>6946553
you said most people don't know how to evade bans. that's obviously not true and we already know the most problematic users, the ones who have been actively trolling this board for months, know how.

>>6946554
certain users have been doing it daily for months. why haven't they been stopped?

>>6946553

There is no argument up keep an archive. Especially as a community that had been do hated on the past as the lgbtqrstuvwxyz or whatever the fuck we are nowadays.

The archive is literally worthless. All it's good for is creating drama/doxing.

One would think that one should want full anonymity on the internet, otherwise why even use an anonymous message board?

>>6946557

Those are still not most users, they're the select few. All I see here is a namefag trying to keep ahold of their identity somehow.

>remove trans
I don't think you realise how slow a board this is. Removing trans will make it ultra dead.
If you wanna make something about the abundance of trans content, maybe something more contextual like ruling so there can't be different flavors of trans general.
Truth be told, I think this place needs the generals since original threads are kinda rare and half of them is someone confused asking for advice.
The rest is not generals but is still always the same shit repeating over and over (coming out greentext, what do you think of pride parades, ect)
>forced anonymity
I'm not against this one, but it's the same anwser you've heard over and over. Why don't you filter them? Sure tripfags may be cancer but you don't hold any power judging their opinions for everybody. You can ignore them but if someones decides they like reading tripfag posts, their judgement has the same value as yours.
>remove post number, break archive
nigga what? anyone can see what you post. You're supposed to be anonymous because your posts are just text and images with no strings attached, not because content autodestructs. Also I don't get what this has to do with the quality of the board. Seems like a general issue you have with 4chan in general.
>poster id in thread
sure why not, won't deter all the samefags but it really can't hurt

>>6946558
dude what
archive and anonymity are completely separate issues.

>>6946557
wrong poster

>>6946574

Both are issues, two birds one stone.

>>6946568

Even if you filter the tripfags they can attention to themselves and derail threads.

Can someone give an actual reason, a good argument to save the archives?

>>6946560
your solutions don't actually resolve any of the fundamental issues with identity on /lgbt/
if you want to remove identity, you have to have a reasonable plan to actually remove identity, since plenty of users already use images to self-identity and ban evade regularly
all this does is remove filtering

>>6946574
i never argued against forced anonymous

>>6946586
i dont understand how forced anonymous would change that except empower people to draw attention to themselves
pretty sure thats part of why maki posts anon and why he got a lot more annoying when he did

>>6946586
no, not two birds one stone.

>>6946586
If the tripfags attract attention, that's because people respond to them. Thoses people unlike you do not ignore tripfags, their opinion may be shit but it's as valid as your and mine.

>Can someone give an actual reason, a good argument to save the archives?
Can you give a good reason not to? Archive is a quality of life thing. It's quite useful to go read the end of a thread getting pushed out when you missed it. I don't let my computer on with 4chan tabs auto refreshing 24/24.
Maybe it doesn't need this much capacity for a slow board, but I don't know if adjusting the capacity of the archive is possible.

>>6946654
and they would be free to express their opinions, anonymously ;^)

>>6946677
you misread me, I was referring to the people who don't hide tripfags

>>6946519
>Having mtf gen, gay gen, lez gen, etc. automatically creates division
yes

>>6946171
we can dream

>>6946139

If you want more lgb discussion, generate it. There's literally no reason to split things.
If the board moved really fast, you'd have a point, like /v/ splitting off /vg/, or /mlp/ getting annexed. But /lgbt/ is slow as shit as it is, trannies are doing no harm by taking up most of the discussion.
If you want another lgb thread, make one. Trans threads won't bump it off, it'll be days before it falls off page 10 even without any posts.

>>6946586
>Can someone give an actual reason, a good argument to save the archives?

Aint broke, don't fix it. It's not that there's reason to keep it, it's that there's no reason to take action to break it.

1. The mod of /lgbt/ must be LGBT and an atheist. Don't give basement dwelling white knights with delusions and prejudice the power to make decisions.

2. Stop banning altogether. The worst offenders have so many proxies and changing IPs they just evade it every time. All that winds up happening is people who stick up for themselves and don't try to hide from the NSA and the FBI because they don't have child porn on their computers get banned. Some of us are stuck with static IPs, and don't feel like using Tor or an anonymizing tunnel just to interact on the internet.

Just delete threads and posts that break the rules.

3. Don't ban or delete based on popular vote. The tyranny of the masses, or Democracy, doesn't promote anything but shit. You just wind up with brigading trolls silencing everyone who doesn't act like an asshole, and who gives them a piece of their mind. Trolls wind up getting away with posting insults and threats that are crimes in every country in the world, they're so bad, and if someone just tells them to shut up, they get banned because muh consensus.

4. Get rid of the "Because your ban is so short, you may not appeal it" bullshit. Mods abuse it to ban people who aren't even breaking the rules or doing anything bad, because there's no way they can get caught giving out the crappy bans because there's no way to draw attention to it while it's in effect. By the time the ban is up, if you try to complain about it, people don't pay attention because that was sooo yesterday.

And just generally a lot of other common sense ideas that would make anywhere in the world a much better place but that nobody has ever or will ever do because the only people who make decisions are the shitty people who don't want a better place, and they don't give a shit what decent people want.

>>6946747
these are good suggestions, particularly 2 and 4

>>6946475
A hash of the message combined with the exact time can be used as a unique identifier even if post numbers are removed. You will have succeeded at nothing.

>>6946747
t. Libertarian

>>6946475
>Breaking the archive is absolutely necessary.
So you can't even look back more than 1 week ? Lel

>>6946548
Please destroy the archive former trip fag here who wasn't cancerous at all I'm fine with forced anon. The archive had been responsible for multiple doxing it give vindictive Huns power they don't need. Also ban Kayla, Circe, cara poster

>>6945955
Ban the following:
>avatarfags
>/pol/ posts and threads
>all the new tranny threads that could very easily go into one of the dozen or so tranny generals
>newfags who have clearly never lurked a day in their life

This board is a newfag magnet and it shits up the place. If I wanted to be on reddit then I'd go to that shit hole. These retards only fuel shit posting /pol/lacks because they ALWAYS respond to bait, and avatarfags are always the worst offenders. Protect 4chan culture!

>>6946747
If you're complaining this much about being banned then you're obviously a shit poster who breaks the rules. Fuck off.

>>6946171
This this this

If we had post ID'S and no names things would be a lot better, and shitposting would go down a ton.

>>6947180
Actually, these should be stickied even because we all know newfags never bother to go somewhere else to read the rules. Make it explicitly clear
>check the catalog before making a new thread
If your post fits the scooe of an existing thread/gen then put it there.

>>6947191
scope*

>>6946594
No, the solutions don't absolutely solve everything. But they'd up the boards quality.

Are you saying that because we can't eradicate identity completely we shouldn't try to regulate it at all? That's a dumb mentality.

I'm for
>no names or trips
>per thread poster iD

>>6946171
>user IDs
Go fuck yourself, along with any other faggot who thinks this concept is anything but fucking terrible.

It's all well and good for /b/ whose threads last about 8 seconds (even though it's still fucking stupid shit that flies in the face of 4chan), but on a board like this it'd absolutely nuke discussion. No one wants the last 5 posts in a thread to be just them, but with the rate of posting here, that's what'd happen to anyone who hops into a thread late.
You might as well make us all create fucking user accounts. Thread IDs on a slow ass board like this, go FUCK yourself.

>>6947197
What? So if we had user ID'S, threads would die quicker? Or nobody would post because nobody wants their poster ID to be seen?

What's your point here?

>>6947200
>So if we had user ID'S, threads would die quicker? Or nobody would post because nobody wants their poster ID to be seen?
Both? You know threads die when no one posts, right?

And how the fuck are IDs remotely compatible with no name/tripfagging? That's fucking retarded.

The trouble with this board is the base topic itself.

Lgbt isn't really a changing thing, this place is alright for news on lgbt rights and atrocities and what not but outside of that it serves no purpose other than to circle jerk in generals.

All the generals are just a holding bay for a select few to keep discussing the same boring shit over and over, they never change, its just a tight-knit group of tripfags and then a looser accumulation of anons.

Mtfg is the worst for it, its just a massive circle jerk. A complete shit hole.

Basically, generals should be banned and only valid lgbt discussions allowed.

However, its still rare as shit now that any interesting threads crop up, its the same old shit "should I transition?" "How do I tell if someone is gay?" "What hormones should I take?" "What do you think of Milo?"

Fuck me, blow the whole board out the window.

>>6947180
>>6946568
So long as you all agree that Femgen isn't a Trans thread and they its so different from gaygen and Mtfg that you couldn't force merge it with either

>>6947206
Where's the logic in user ID'S = nobody posts

You're just saying that's how it would be and calling the opposite possibly retarded.

Again, what's your argument? Why would no one post with user ID'S?

>>6947197
This. Just make the whole board forced anon - no tripfags and no user IDs.

Once this happens all the attention whoring newfags who shit this place up will leave.

>>6947208
>there's no point to this board, only generals
>so the generals shouldn't be allowed
wut?

>>6947215
Everyone would just start avatarfagging.

>>6946171
>>6946475
And in addition, implementing a robot would be a bad idea for this board due to repeating things being useful here. Must I find a million different ways to explain the mechanism of action of SERMs, and if I must and could, what do I do when those million explanations are exhausted. /r9k/ is cancer even with the robot. A compromise could be telling the user if their post is identical to others, but allowing them to post it anyway, but removing it if there is no good reason for the repeated post. We would have to define what a good reason is, though.

>>6947208
Mtf Gen is mostly people from another board 420chan we had the exact drama and bullshit then it was made forced anon suddenly people we're talking about real issues you still had the occasional trip post 1000 images of themselves but it wasn't a huge circle jerk anymore forced anon or ids would stop the doxing and cat fights. Its time to throw trips away they are useless to this board anyways.

>>6947214

Because if you want a fucking username, go to Reddit, that's why. That's not what 4chan is for.
And yeah, when people can no longer carry on 5 different discussions at once without them all fucking imploding on each other, people are going to either post a fuckton less, or shitstorm a fuckton more.

>>6947217
Yes, which is why avatarfagging is already a bannable offense. Ban all these faggots till they get bored and leave for good.

>>6947216
I'm terrible at expressing my point. Whichever is the latter stands.

>>6947222
Alright then, it makes sense to me, they should probably implement that first.

I'm jot sure if forced anon or user IDs would be better, never really lingerd on any board which used either to be fair.

Forced anon sounds better on the whole to me.

Christ, this kind of shit always brings out the micromanaging cunts.

I throw in my opinion that I love generals. I don't see why we should get rid of them.

Making this board NSFW sounds awful

>>6945966
Lol if trannies went to another board, /gay/ would be like one thread with posters every 3 weeks.

But seriously, we need a way to contact mods directly about banning underaged posters.

>>6946747
We are mainly discussing rules specific to /lgbt/ here, not global changes in moderation. Global changes in moderation should be discussed in the /qa/ thread.

>>6947180
Or I don't like cis straight Christians banning me because I refuse to heil mein fuhrer.

We should learn from stoicism and accept that no matter what we try, 4chan will always be a tumor, and social boards like LGBT will be the biggest cancers.

Learn to live with attention whores, they'll never go away. Make peace with the establishment.

>>6947255
Well they aren't really the problem.the people who dox and use the archive to data leak and spam peoples old pictures eradication of the archive would be the best shit there is even an anon who has a database 2tb of trip drama and pics. Destruction of the lgbt archive would fix this honestly the best time to post on lgbt was when the archive was down for maintenance

>>6947180
This if >>6946747 shit posts the board nonstop, he should start facing longer bans. The state of the board is largely his fault and others like him.

Don't keep coddling him, get harsh.

>>6947278
Stoicism isn't about learning to surrender to the evil and the retarded. It's about controlling your emotions well enough that you can fight back effectively.

The idea of not feeding trolls doesn't work, it breeds the exact kind of atmosphere bullies thrive on, when nobody stands up to them, and only their friends are allowed to speak.

Being afraid of making the place a boring place by filling it with arguing is illogical, when it's already a boring place because it's full of assholes that talk like shit, and nobody will speak up about it.

The drama of good people arguing with bad ones is infinitely more interesting then the drama of people trying to out-fuhrer one another.

>>6947296
We won't hurt everyone just for the sake of you and one other person who was careless.

Just use discresion like every normal person.

>>6947300
That's why I said to not change anything.

>>6947302
Because everything is being done exactly wrong, that's why nothing should change?

This shit is fucking retarded, every single idea I have seen proposed on this thread is just plain stupid as fuck. The first thing people need to understand is that this board is not busy at all compared to the popular ones, the bottom line is that no changes really need to be made. Almost every single change being proposed here is some authoritarian SJW faggot bullshit that serves no real purpose at all except to penalize some clique on the board that some 20yr old snot nose brat doesnt like.... literally fuck off.

>muh, muh, muh QUALITY
>quality fags in 2016
xD xD xD
Go read NY Times, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, or Wall Street Journal if you want quality you fucking crybabies. This is a shit tier weebshit site that is only good for dank memes, and selfies of scantily clad feminine beings with penises. The main reason why there is so much trash tier shit on this board is BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE.

>get rib of generlulz :DDD
Why? All generals do is help organize a board and make it a better place by semi containing shit so that you know a head of time what to expect before you go into a thread.

>b-b-but M00t said its against 4chin culture
FUCK OFF, generals declutter and organize the boards and make a lot of sense, if there is one you dont like then dont go in it.

>we need IDs
This isnt a horrible idea, but again not really necessary. On boards like /pol/ and /soc/ it makes sense, on /lgbt/ it doesnt really matter. This entire board is just banter about loosely defined spectrums. IDs are completely irrelevant on a board like this.

Overall this board doesnt need much change if any at all. This board has the highest concentration of SJW Tumblr progressive crybaby fags so most of their authoritarian suggestions should be patently disregarded. Light moderation and loose enforcement of the existing rules is fine Tbh... a little girldick and tranny tits here and there never hurt anyone.... just sayin :P :P :P

t. Chaser in Chief xD xD xD

>>6947324
>not many people come here, so everything should be done wrong
>da ebil SJW!
>calling me a faggot

Epic Hitler, Jesus. Supa dank.

>>6947307
It's gonna be useless. Wasted energy, you can try to fix 4chan, but unless you make 4chan an entirely different website it's always going to stay the same because 4chan is inherently broken. And it's fine this way imo.

>>6947255
>implying 90% of mtfg isnt underaged

>>6947296
It is essentially impossible to stop the third-party archives.

>>6947337
WE IS NO ARCHIVE WE ZE SHEEKY FORMS

WE CLOSED 4 REDRISTRATION

YOU GO NOW

>>6946171
The robot is cancer, kill yourself.

>>6947329
>doing what's right is useless
>trying to make the place less boring is also useless
>You're wasting energy, not me! Even though your advocating making it better and I'm advocating making it worse!
>It's worthless, so it's good!

Yeah, nah.

>>6947349
>4chan's not the way I like it and that's wrong

>>6947351
Being a Christian Nazi and trying to get minorities to kill themselves is objectively wrong. This is not a matter of opinion. It's also boring, and that's not a matter of opinion either. If it weren't boring, your kind wouldn't still be bored immediately after doing it for one million straight hours.

>>6947366
>Being a Christian Nazi and trying to get minorities to kill themselves is objectively wrong. This is not a matter of opinion.
I really hope you're being ironic or willfully ignorant, and don't actually believe this bullshit.
You and your friends not liking something doesn't make it wrong, sorry to expose you to the real world. Maybe you should go back to tumblr or reddit if you want a censored hugbox where only your ideas exist.

>>6947395
No I wasn't being ironic or willfully ignorant. I really do believe that being a Christian Nazi makes you evil, and I believe that because it really does make you evil.

>>6947400
I have class but I guess your adherence to your values is admirable, if closed-minded.

Maybe look at it this way, when you were five years old, did you understand everything the way you do now? Can you see the dark side of the moon from here on earth?

Other people might know things you don't know, and those things might help mature your view of right and wrong.
Or you'll hold to your current beliefs, and that's fine, but why should you stand in the way of other people's education?

>>6947415
Those words don't mean anything. And none of them change the fact that I'm good and you're evil. Rather, they just highlight it, since you're trying harder and harder to be evil.

My only issue are the blatant threads where people post a selfie and obviously expect praise. Those "Do I pass~?" threads and "Am I hot?" threads people make. Those shouldn't be allowed. Just post in /mtfg/, /ftmg/, /femgen/, /passgen/, etc.

Also, this is the "lgbtq" board not the "feminist board". Threads about male privilege, sexism, religion, politics, etc are often allowed despite not being about queer issues at all.

Mods also need to work on deleting nsfw images quickly. I remember two or three days ago a nsfw picture was used in an OP and that thread was up for like an hour or two. This is a blue board.

>>6946747

What are you doing to get banned on /lgbt/? It's not easy. Just don't make annoying posts, post nsfw, or talk horribly off-topic. I have only gotten banned for making genderqueer or asexual gens, and that was years ago back when the mods thought they were off-topic and would ban them.

>>6947416
But anon, you're not a Christian, and that makes you evil :/

>>6947416
not that anon and i agree with you but stop saying good and evil. it sounds ridiculous.

>>6947423
That's a lie only an evil Christian would tell, so it doesn't count, it just further proves that Christians are evil.

>>6947301
How does the archive benefit anyone?
Seriously if you have no life and like to read up on old trip drama maybe but it doesn't work here forced anon and taking the archive down would be in our best interest it's been about 6 people I can count that have been doxxed in one year not to mention the constant bullshit drama the archive brings.

>>6947430
No. I will not shy away from calling what is good good and what is evil evil. Nazi Christians are evil. Trolls are evil. Trolling is evil. Danking the 4memes is evil. Making excuses, and trying to silence good people with your rules about how you have copyrighted the words good and evil is evil. I don't care about your copyright on the words good and evil, you're evil, so you shouldn't be allowed to hold any copyrights.

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How about everyone leave it the way it is.

>>6947446
Which is essentially what will happen, even though it one of the worst possible choices. Really, BECAUSE it's one of the worst possible choices.

We're just having fun talking about what-ifs. Well, I don't know if the Christian Nazis are having fun, but then I don't care if Christian Nazis have fun.

>>6946171
Generals are good. Trannies arn't.

>>6945955
Make a trans porn board like /hm/ so attention whores and /soc/ialites can post their dicks there. It'd reduce the nsfw rule breaking.

>>6947688
this is the only good idea here

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Ban clear general shit posting.

A lot of generals get innundated with low quality bait and samefagging. The 'i'm a tranny why wont lesbians suck my cock' posts in /lesgen/ the 'trannies are mentally ill gay men/ posts in /mtfgen/ the 'bis don't real' posts in /bigen/ and i'm sure /gaygen/ has their own low quality bait.

They arn't violating any real rules but they generally cause shit to happen with posting competing generals and artificially raising the post numbers of generals.

Just make a 'high quality bait' only rule and only enforce it on the lamest posts that we report.

>>6947438
Links to merchandise like binder stuff and srem and other specialized stuff that femgen uses that will get lost in any mtfg pastebin

We aren't gonna loose our references and have to work from snatch just cause you were an idiotic attention whore.

You deserve to get outed for all the harm you're causing us.

>>6945966
>>6946002
>>6946139
The answer is obvious

We need to remove shit posting

A large part of why general threads dominate this board so much is the frequency with which shit posts are made like "hey I'm from /pol/, what do you think of Milo?" and "how does it feel to be mentally ill, degenerates?"

Threads that are clearly meant to provoke or advocate /pol/ ideology should be banned.

>>6947711
Uh, you talk about hating trannies and how much you want trump to ban them from bathrooms and other crazy stuff in your lesgen.

You really can't complain when you've made your threads entrely about trannies.

>>6947713

You can save those yourself, it's not like someone isn't going to post that information later.

You want to keep information going in the community? It's up to you.

ID's would stop people from samefagging and causing drama, keep it per thread so you can filter those IDs in that thread if people become an issue. Outside of that thread everyone gets the benefit of the doubt from not having the same ID.

There is literally no issue.

https://femgen.us and https://get.on.hrt.today is an example of what a community could do to share information outside of having an actual archive.

>>6947446
Also kayla should be banned. She was the cancer of 420chans /cd/ and shes now the cancer of 4chans /lgbt/

>>6947300
>The idea of not feeding trolls doesn't work, it breeds the exact kind of atmosphere bullies thrive on, when nobody stands up to them, and only their friends are allowed to speak.

False. Trolls thrive on eliciting reactions of any kind. Any (you) they recieve is fuel to troll more. This is why "don't feed the trolls" it is a universal rule of the internet, and especially of 4chan.

Newfags like you take their bait time and again and its a cycle of shit posting that ruins this board.

You're clearly one of the newfags who shits up this board. You are as bad as the trolls, if not worse. Kindly fuck off and never post here again.

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>>6947738
why can't we be friends?

>>6947793
False. Trolls thrive on environments where only they and their friends are allowed to speak, and nobody that disagrees with them is allowed to speak, or those other people censor themselves voluntarily. Just like what I said the first time.

But shit like you lies and tricks people, and when it's in your power to do something about trolls, irl or on the internet, you don't, and when it's not in your power, but you find someone who does have the power to do something about it (hand out bans, discourage it, whatever) you convince them not to. Because you are a troll.

It's shit like you that ruins everything you touch. This board, this thread, this website, the internet, real life, even fantasies and delusions, you even find ways to shit up the imaginary.

>>6947446
kayla i love you even more now <3

>>6947211
This so much. To try a forced merge of femboys with trans would just leave the femboys with nowhere to go.

>>6947864
Downvoting. Where whoever has the most liars on their side wins. That will work really well when the shit present overwhelming supports Hitler, Jesus and Trump.

Doesn't seem like we can come to a consensus on anything.


Here's what I want to see...

Clicking the triangle on someones post, there should be two more options....

1. Filter Trip - by clicking this it will filter the posts made by a certain trip. Currently one has to go into settings and filter them which is daunting as fuck. Make it easier to filter trips so even a n00b can do it!

2. Dislike Post - if enough people dislike a post because it's breaking the rules or it's rude it should get deleted/pruned automatically. This will make it easier for CP, racist comments, and other troll-based comments to get deleted.

>>6947864
lmao having dislikes would kill 4chan within not even half an hour

>>6947873

a persons post should only get deleted if more than 50% of the posters within a thread dislike it

That is fair, regardless of "teams".

>>6947864
>dislike button
You have to go back...

>>6947894
>fair to be censored because 51% of people don't agree with you
kill
your
self
please

>>6947879
see >>6947907

It would seem that we have a clear consensus against having the /a/ trap threads moved to /lgbt/, due to them being unrelated.

There is a consensus leaning towards removing names, tripcodes, and secure tripcodes due to it resulting in drama and cliches. Others argue that they are useful to recognize friends and that they keep discussions orderly.

There are some users advocating removing the blue board restrictions on /lgbt/, due to porn being relevant to /lgbt/. Those against argue that there are already porn boards, and that such content should be kept to them.

There are many users advocating for and against splitting the board, with those in favor arguing that gender identity and sexual orientation are different, so they should have different boards. Those against argue that the board is slow enough that it is not an issue. Consensus is unlikely to ever be reached on this matter.

Some users have argued that we should remove the archive and remove post numbers to break any third-party archives. They state that the data it stored can be used for de-anonyimization, making the forced anon pointless. Those against argue that it can store useful information on HRT and such for later, that it cannot be used for de-anonyimization in most cases, and that it is helpful if you did not finish reading a thread by the time it entered the archive. Consensus is unlikely to ever be reached on this matter.

>continued

>>6947872
That and if we stay with the Lgb division gaygen trips will be constantly shrieking and demanding we leave to the trans board.

This is just rewarding obnoxious trips and poltards

Why not just ban all of those?

>>6947920
why not just ban anons?

>>6947724
Ids and trips lead to insufferable egotists

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>>6947918
>continued

Some have proposed banning general threads. The arguments for and against are similar to those for force anon, but an additional argument in favor that it keeps the board organized and contains the cancer, and against that it divides the board. Consensus might be reached on this, but it is more unlikely than not.

Some have proposed expanding or removing entirely the image limit, due to it leading to multiple /mtfg/ threads existing due to their fast pace and many image. Arguments against would mostly consist of opposition to general threads, and so then it would not be needed.

There are some users arguing for flags and poster IDs for within a particular thread, to stop puppetry. It was proposed by those also advocating for forced anon, but it is opposed by some of the same, particularly due to the slow pace of /lgbt/ leading to a particular thread existing for a long time.

Some users have proposed banning shitposting and /pol/ posting. Almost all are in favor, none have provided clear definitions. At this point, it is basically saying less worseness.

Did I miss any points?

>>6946486
>>6946512
Agreed, this is not a good poll. I will wait a little bit for more suggestions, then make a new one.

>>6947873
>>6947883
>>6947894
>>6947907
>>6947914
>>6947915


How about this than?

If enough people dislike a post (70%+ dislikes based on the unique ip posters) it should get sent to a mod/admin for judgement. This will make it easier for CP, racist comments, and other troll-based comments to get deleted.

>>6947927
>god forbid we know who we're talking to
>god forbid we're able to filter people we don't like

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>>6947947
>If enough people dislike a post (70%+ dislikes based on the unique ip posters) it should get sent to a mod/admin for judgement. This will make it easier for CP, racist comments, and other troll-based comments to get deleted.

How about you click the little triangle next to the post number
and click report?

>>6945966
PLEASE GOD

Allow trips only in generals. They're useful there, but nowhere else on the board.

1. No tripfagging allowed in generals or anywhere else on this board

That's all.

>>6947974
fuck you, i wanna know who i'm talking to if they're willing to name themselves.

>>6947718
That's exactly the kind of low quality bait i'm talking about.

>>6947804
I tried that like 4 years ago. Fuck off elsewhere.

>>6947989
But they aren't who they say they are. It's even common for them to share their tripcodes with one another so they can sockpuppet their friend's trip while they're gone if they need to.

Trips have some legitamate uses on other boards. But on this one, which is nothing but a honeypot for underage LGBT people to make poor life decisions and trust people on the internet, trips only serve to enhance the appearance of credibility and foster trust.

>>6947986
>other people are making choices I don't like that don't affect me at all ;-;

>>6947990
>get called out
>b-bait!!
please. Stop the unrepentant transphobia and maybe you'll stop getting called out.

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>>6945974
>>6946383
>>6946411
>>6946460
>>6947138
>doesn't list any actual reasons as to why I should be banned
woah, I wonder why THAT is...

>>6948006
even if it's more than one person posting under a particular trip, it still excludes random anons from posting as them, and so there's a continuity of identity across a few persons.
Anon can be literally anyone, and I can't react to a total stranger's posts the same way I would to a friend's post.

The "underage" thing is an assertion, there's nothing tangible to back it up except maybe the archive, which half of you want to kill for some reason. Plus you can just, you know, lie about your age.

If you think the older generation of LGBT people exploit/harm the younger generation, you're probably a homo/transphobic bigot, internalized or otherwise.

>>6947989

That is what the flags are for. You'll know to ignore SJW leaf posters or any Swedish cucks.

>>6948032
I wanna know the identity/persona I'm communicating with, not their nationality. I'm sure 90% of this thread is australia anyway.

>>6948034

All the SJWs are leaf posters and swedecucks, just like in /int/ and /pol/.

>>6948031
Why would I think any of the heterosexuals trying to pray on children and get them kicked out of their homes and bullied to suicide at their schools are LGBT? You're not making any sense. Of course I don't think heterosexual Christian trolls are gay.

>>6947949
Tripfagging is literally cancer. If you want to know who you're talking to go to reddit.

>>6948043
>heterosexuals trying to pray on children and get them kicked out of their homes and bullied to suicide at their schools
I've never seen this even once on this board.

Whatever happened to you, it resulted in some irrational mental image of all your enemies as "christians." You're fucked in the head, you think your ideology alone equates to LGBT.

Whatever you think LGBT youth should do is probably the exact opposite of what they should do, because they should avoid becoming you at all costs.

>>6948059

all the cuckchanners (reddit) belong together anyway, they all hugbox each other they might as well be susans.

>>6948059
If you want your own special little "cancer-free" safe space, go start your own subreddit or better yet, move to tumblr.
Nobody here needs you telling us what we can and can't say, what we can and can't call ourselves.

>>6948067
>how dare they not be toxic on my special little internet hate group!
>*scratches neckbeard*

>>6948069

Tripfags always ruin any comunity they are a part of.

>>6948074

Or, there is a difference between constructive criticism while being nice and absolute hugboxing .

>>6948076
>Tripfags always ruin any comunity they are a part of.
I won't say "citation needed," but do you have a single fact to back up that assertion? You being upset at reading names isn't the same as the community being ruined.

>>6948076
>Or, there is a difference between constructive criticism while being nice and absolute hugboxing .
You're the one who can't seem to make that distinction, equating trips with Susans. Toxic, abusive """criticism""" doesn't help anyone. If anything it promotes suicide in an already incredibly vulnerable demographic.

>>6948087

Look at all the doxing that happens in gaygen and mtfg. Look at how threads are completely derailed at times when someone comes into the thread.

>>6948099
Trips have no greater ability to dox than anons do. If you mean trips getting doxxed, it was their own choice to give out personal information as well as use a trip. Not an issue for the mods to get involved in, they're not supposed to protect people from their own carelessness.

Derailing I've rarely seen, it's more often some boring shit topic that nobody cares about getting ignored until a trip shows up with quality content.

>>6948111

You might as well turn on your trip right now.

>Trips have no greater ability to dox than anons do

You're right but without post numbers and forced anon it would make it harder for the archive to happen. More than likely though, it is the trips getting angry at each other and exacting revenge. Two faced trips turning their trip on and off just to argue or demean each other. IDs would be a great way to stop this.

>Derailing I've rarely seen

Derailing always happens, it is very rare that any trips bring anything of quality. It's just attention whoring /soc/ bullshit.

>>6947879
Holy shit fuck no. This amplifies circlejerking and brigading by ^11.

This system is the reason reddit is so fucking awful because they silence anyone that doesnt agree with them.

>>6948154
And not being able to report or hide shitty, inciteful, low-quality crap posts is the reason 4chan is such a tumor.

Leave everything as is. I don't want 4chan or /lgbt/ to change. I like it, including all of the cancerous attention whoring tripfags, the pol raids and the self-haters. It's part of this horrible, terrible and inhumane experience just as much as getting brigaded for having a dissenting opinion is part of that experience.

>>6948154

The person you quoted is either a redditor/tripfag who needs to leave, or a shitposter.

>>6948176
>And not being able to report or hide shitty, inciteful, low-quality crap posts is the reason 4chan is such a tumor.

We have this ability though, its just that we have way too few mods. IIRC only like 2 janitors look into lgbt every other day.

>>6946171
do it

>>6948220
I mean globally. As in, deleting posts.

And janitors shouldn't delete any of this glorious turd unless it's literally cross board posting or get threads or maybe porn (keep the board blue), which they already do anyway.

4chan is fine the way it is. Unless Hiroshima decides to sell out or something. Which he probably already did. But then again, that's fine too. 4chan is a tumor, and it's fine this way.

>>6948062
You see it every single day on this board. It's what trolls call "trolling." You pretend you're a real human being and not some mythological monster living under a bridge, and trick the unwary into getting themselves hurt on your dank-a-danks.

Whatever happened to you, it turned you into shit, a coward who's so afraid of hell he devotes all of his time to being worthless dogshit, much like your average highschool bully.

Whatever you think anybody should do is exactly the opposite of what anybody should do, because they should avoid becoming you at all costs.

>>6946361
We already have handsome men and many boards with female porn.

I support a separate board for Trans. Make one board /trans/ and another board /lgb/

>>6947856
Holy shit newfag. That is quite some intense projecting. Please stop posting on this website, or consider suicide.

>>6947879
>wanting a like button on 4chan

Wow. Will all the newfags here kindly fuck off. You all are the reason this board is such shit. Leave, and never come back. We don't want you here.

I have created a poll that is actually not shit:
https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/3066275/New-Survey

>>6948483
>https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/3066275/New-Survey
make a new thread for it prolly

>>6948483
Here is the results page:
https://data.surveygizmo.com/r/495843_57e590dc42b415.78956218

>>6948123
God please do this I'm so tired of the drama even after leaving the cess pit called mtf general I still get little shits that post those dumbass tiers and now they tried to wreck femgen fuck them seriously no other general is as coniving.

>>6947949
This.

>>6948734
We will merge!

>>6948734
Femboys are trans in denial, we're just making sure they get proper treatment.

>>6948510
>https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/3066275/New-Survey

You fucked up.

Disabling trip/name, enable ID, enable flag. Best system.

>>6948510

Another thing, I voted to remove the archive and post numbers but your poll fucked up and made it as if I was pro archive. FUCK THAT.

>>6948069
You're literally going against the spirit of the site.

>>6948005
lol wat? Also I was a different person 4 years ago, heck i have only been 1.7 years into transition.

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>>6947879

>2. Dislike Post - if enough people dislike a post because it's breaking the rules or it's rude it should get deleted/pruned automatically. This will make it easier for CP, racist comments, and other troll-based comments to get deleted.

You fucking newfag lurk moar or gbtreddit.

We seem to be reaching a consensus on increasing the image limit. We likely will not reach a consensus on anything else.

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>>6947879
>Dislike Post - if enough people dislike a post because it's breaking the rules or it's rude it should get deleted/pruned automatically
>or it's rude
Gb2 your hugbox faggot

>>6948926
trying to turn 4chan into leddit is more against the "spirit" of the site than anything else.

>>6947417
>Also, this is the "lgbtq" board not the "feminist board". Threads about male privilege, sexism, religion, politics, etc are often allowed despite not being about queer issues at all.
Yeah, but to be fair every board has that. Feminism shit is just super easy bait.

>>6947918

I'm against literally all of this. I'm indifferent about the archive, since going without it would allow people to post more freely without fear of it coming back to bite them, but I don't feel strongly about it and breaking it is never gonna happen anyway.

>>6947930

I'm against all of this too.
Image limit isn't even an issue of opinion, you'll toast the servers without it. But it'd be good if hitting the image limit led to autosage to avoid shit like this.
And yeah, banning shit posting is a pipe dream.

>>6947949

If you want to know who you're talking to, go to literally any other website. If you want to contrive your own personal safe space where anything you don't like is withheld from you, go to Tumblr.

>>6949104
Stop being mean.

MTFG is useful for talking to people I like anonymously, while still being able to recognize those people. If there are "annoying attention whores" they can be filtered. There's literally nothing wrong with the system the way it is now, Reddit's is worse and enforced anon is fucking retarded.

>>6945955
Ban the trans generals they're more trouble than the hons are worth.

>>6949241
Next time put more effort into such an obvious lie or nobody will ever believe you. Mtfg isn't useful for anything.

>>6945955
>keep /lgbt/ a LGBT board, not a GSM or LGBTQAFY5+ bpard
>allow nsfw images if they're hidden behind a spoiler
>recognize the armenian genocide
>no tripfags
>no drag threads unless it's about LGBT drag queens/kings
>more /lgbt/ memes that aren't polgbt
Don't get me wrong, some of them are very funny it's just sometimes we need to through some new stuff into the mix

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any user utilizing an anime related avatar gets perma-banned.

>>6949286
mtfg is useful for me and i don't want it fucked with >~<
I've never understood the hate of trips, they've literally never been an issue for anyone that isn't autistic.

>>6949027

We might as well reach a consensus that we all get a million dollars, it's not gonna happen

>>6949241
>There's literally nothing wrong with the system the way it is now
Exactly. So no fucking IDs. You don't need to know who you're talking to. If they want to trip or namefag, that's their choice.

>>6949348
You are the problem.

For those of you advocating for NSFW content, do you not realise that this would just become a den of tranny porn and camwhoring?

>>6945955
Remove /pol/

Forced anon. no IDs.

>>6949348
You have an irc, two discords, multiple skype groups, and a steam group to interact with your cluster fuck circle jerk of vindictive chaser hons and rapists.

>>6949454
the mods here are weird. the only time I've gotten banned was for "being disrespectful" (?) and it was something vaguely TERF-ie, while dozens of /pol/-posts litter the catalog every day.

>>6949316
>no drag threads unless it's about LGBT drag
What other kind of drag is there? Serious question

>>6948483
It's bad form to say how much support something got (where? In a single obscure thread) because this influences the results

>>6947879
Holy shit kill yourself

>trip codes get an extra salt value so that they are only good for a single thread (closer to the original vision of trips). The same password will produce two different codes in two different threads

>>6946519
>what is the use of having threads go on and on all day or even weeks

that "can you tell if someone is gay just by looking at it" thread that stayed up for like two months

What's wrong with threads sticking around for a while though? It's a slow board.

>>6949464
There are cis straight drag queen. Dressing up as a caricature of a woman and putting on a show is a form of entertainment, not a sexuality. Drag isn't inherently LGBT, it just gets associated with it. Might as well have threads about interior decoration or hairdressing

>>6946171
I agree with disabling name/tripfagging, but I disagree with adding user IDs. The board is too slow for that.
Also, don't prohibit generals.

>>6949372
I never argued for IDs I just wanted trips!!
>>6949374
YOU'RE the problem!
See how easy that is?
>>6949429
literally just stay out of the general, there's already a no trips general, and you can just FILTER THE TRIPS
There's nothing you want implemented for everyone that you can't just do for yourself with the current system.

>>6949573
MTFG threads disappear too quickly for that to actually be useful, it would turn every thread quickly to shit with people trying to impersonate known trips every thread. Why is this site full of RETARDS???

>>6949383
Femboys won't get baned for posting pictures of their chests anymore

Not that they should get banned where they're boys anyhow

>>6949717
>I never argued for IDs I just wanted trips!!
Follow the post chain
Also calm down mang

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There is so much new faggotry in this thread (and board) that I cannot be bothered with calling out individuals. You shitters have no right to change any board on this site to mirror that shithole you crawled out of (reddit).

Very little needs to be changed to make /lgbt/ a much better board. Simply
>reduce the number newfags/attention whores
>reduce the number of /pol/ trolls

How can this be accomplished? Simply
>lurk more
>LURK MORE
>everyone forced anon - no trips & no IDs
>ban avatarfags (it's already against the rules)
>ignore the trolls
>IGNORE THE TROLLS
Redditfags simply do not understand this fundamental concept. There will always be trolls. Period. Simply ignore them and they will get bored and stop. Give them a response - any response, and they will keep trolling. That is literally the joy they get out of trolling - eliciting any sort of response out of a person. All you stupid newfag shitters somehow don't understand this.
>check the catalogue before making a new thread
>ban anyone who makes a new thread that has a duplicate in the catalogue
>ban anyone who makes a new thread that falls within the scope of an existing thread
This would alleviate the plethora of tranny threads that literally have no point but to complain
>ban people who make off topic threads
>ban /pol/ trolls

And that's fucking it. Most of this shit is simply enforcing the existing rules and board culture. The only *actual* change I suggest is making everyone forced anon. Yes, this is a slower board than /b/ or whatever entry level shit that brought you here. Get over it. We want quality post - not quantity shitposts.

This is 4chan. What makes 4chan so great is its anonymity. If you want to post on a site where you are tied to an identity then go literally anywhere else on the fucking internet, but PLEASE stop shitting up this place.

And to the people wanting an upvote or downvote feature - fuck you and fuck off. Seriously choke on shit and die. This site is clearly not for you.

>>6949717
that's the fucking point retard. persistent identity on this board is pure cancer. when you can be impersonated, there is no point to tripping. tripping was only meant for temporary usage, not to turn this into a long term chat room

>>6949906
>you're not using tripcodes the way I want whaaaaa!!
anon.
please.

>>6949880
So what if there will always be trolls? There will always be people doing the right thing on the other side, no matter how much you try to make THAT stop instead. Just because you're infectious dog shit doesn't mean I'll ever listen to you, shitstraight.

>>6949729
Glorious I can post my chest whenever and see the other Cuties boi boobs.

>>6949880

Thank you.

>>6949943
tripcodes ruin this board. you want an identity? go to reddit

>>6950035
tripcodes are useful for continuous and temporary identification, they're entirely voluntary, and you can filter them. They in no way ruin this or any board.

>>6949880
This right here.

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>>6949949
Case in point. They're such retarded newfags that they don't even understand what trolling is or how it works. They're THAT fucking new.

It's even worse when they have this self-righteous attitude about their shitposting. They *actually* think they're fighting some moral war of words that they can "win". They cannot comprehend the reality that every troll they "fight back" against is merely a post encouraging more trolls (AKA "feeding the trolls").

It's a reddit mentality that is the antithesis of 4chan.

The only thing we can do stop this shitpost feedback loop is to ban this newfags, and for anons to ignore the trolls until the mods to ban them too.

>>6950011
>>6950080
We're not alone anon. We may be the minority on this newfag infests cesspool, but god damnit we owe it to ourselves to at least try to claim this board to be what we deserve.

>>6950091
Case in point. You're such a shitstraight that you still vomit worthless retarded Christian dog shit. You lie and lie and lie, and when you get caught you lie, because you're a petulant infection.

It's even worse when you do the exact same thing you did yesterday and every day before that since you started praying to Jesus. They *actually* think gay people will ever care what pours out of their straight mouths, and that because they danked a dank meme they "won." They cannot comprehend the reality that every good person they "fight back" against is really a post encouraging more good people (AKA "doing what's right")

It's a 4chan mentality that you will find in highschools, prisons and churches.

The only thing we can do to stop this shitpost feedback loop is to do anything and everything to shitstraights to take away as much as possible, hopefully everything, away from them, at least until they stop deepthroating Jesus Christ's nutty fluffy shit loafs.

>>6950091

Captcha should be replaced with vintage meme identification, with a time limit to prevent lookups.

>>6950147
Because only the people who gave a shit what trolls in the past thought should be allowed to post. Riiiiight.

>>6950143
You took it too far, troll. Even on a mental illness board, there's nobody who would honestly believe what you're saying.
Try less colorful descriptions next time.

>>6950150
newfags are cancer, they should be forced to lurk until they understand the culture enough to post.

We should do the same with immigrants, just gag 'em until we're sure they can assimilate.

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>>6950147
I like that you're thinking outside the box anon. That's good! But I don't think that /lgbt/ has to be oldfag exclusive. It just needs to maintain the culture of 4chan, while at the same time being extra diligent against trolls, especially considering that we are literally the fag board.

>>6950182
Anon... you're supposed to IGNORE them - not give them pointers. JFC.

>>6950049
it doesn't matter if i can see them or not. they encourage trolling, doxxing, attention whoring, shitposting, and brigading
other boards can use them responsibly, but clearly not /lgbt/. they need to be removed

>>6950205
If you can't see them how can they possibly bother you?
All that shit you say they encourage, but none of that affects you IF YOU FILTER THEM.
Plus, you haven't even shown any actual evidence that they do this shit.
I don't know what your issue is with lgbt, it seems like you just have transphobia to be honest. Educate yourself.

>>6950222
weak bait

>>6950222
>If you can't see them how can they possibly bother you?
Not that anon, but the answer is the overwhelming majority of users CAN see it, and thus spawning the cancerous culture we have here today.

>you haven't even shown any actual evidence that they do this shit
Lurk moar newfag.

>>6945955
What's the point of having more rules on /lgbt/ when the current ones aren't enforced, and admins delete threads they don't like (usually ones trans people discuss in).

>>6946006
I'd post here more if transhitposters left

>>6950182
There's nobody who would honestly believe that straight Christians are evil, shitpost, shittalk and shitwrite and shitbreath, that everything they say and do and want and think should rejected, and that they're evil, and that anyone that stands up to them is good.

Riiiiight. Except, you know, all those gay people out there, who think all of that, every single one of them.

This isn't the metal illness board. I think you're looking for /straighties4Jesus/

>>6950230
Wasn't baiting.

>>6950234
>but the answer is the overwhelming majority of users CAN see it, and thus spawning the cancerous culture we have here today.
So you're upset over OTHER user's experience? When they're having perfectly good fun? How much of a nazi can you be, demanding that the entire board culture change to make you happy?

>>6950257
Transphobe! Go back to /pol/!

>>6950349
oh, so you're just legitimately retarded then. sorry

>>6950349
trannies and their allies are so triggered that it's no fun getting them angry

you people make this board boring through your entirely Pavlovian responses

>>6950359
Telling people to use the fucking filter instead of trying to force their shitty standards on everyone else doesn't seem very retarded to me.

>>6950373
If you're so bored, why don't you post quality content instead of trying to troll trannies?

>>6950425
Trannies derail threads. I would be casting pearls before hormonal swine.

>>6950432
Not our fault if people post about us, we're not the ones derailing anything. If its a tranny thread and it becomes about tranny drama, guess what? That's already what the thread was about from the start!!

>>6949057
Yeah because leddit is so fell known for its anonimity

>>6949717
Why should you have persistant identity? What value is there other than blogging and infighting?

>>6950867
it's fun :3

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I shitpost because its fun. Fuck you

>>6951021
Who gives a fuck?

Fuck your shitty board. Im sick of this tumblr board anti racism anti free speech.special shout out to thw mascgen faggots. Your generals a fucking joke made purely becaue of my anon shitposting. If you want non shitposting fo to reddit cunts.

Quit pretending you're not all gaygen anons.

>>6951021
go back to r eddit lol

>>6950988
If it's fun, then why do bitches like you complain about being bored 100% of the time? You know, that's not how fun works. If it is fun, then you're not bored. If you're bored, it's not fun.

Go figure, you're not only bored, you're boring. You spend all day in a echo chamber with people just like you, and then you are left extremely bored. I wonder what the connection is. Hmmm.

Surely the shitposting will work this time though, it just has to. After all, you're always right.

>>6951118
Lol.

You're drunk. Its ok babe im drunk also. I personally dont mind different opinions and thoughts at all...unless they are completely disgusting. Im definetely not boring lol.


I just hate circe types.

>>6947222
Sometimes I forget how much better it was to post with forced anon.

-Sally Cumbercock

>ban Kayla
She literally ruins several threads at the same time. Get rid of her, she's the cancer of this board.
>ban Caraposter
He stalked a transgirl irl.
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6324375/#6325054
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6401340/#6401861

>do NOT split up /lgbt/
/lgbt/ already is a slow working board. /les/ and /gay/ boards would literally never archive a thread.

>make sure that /lgbt/ does not spread to /r9k/
Why have I to browse /r9k/? There are sometimes more /lgbt/ related threads going on than on /lgbt/! Just move them here.

>officially allow passing/rate threads as long as they are somehow lgbt-related
Like passing threads, do I look gay? threads, post your butch face threads etc.

>more rules would make this another reddit
True. Don't let /lgbt/ become a hugbox.

>>6951184
I'm a stupid faggot

-Sally Cumbercock

ACTUALLY FUCKING ENFORCE BANS ON BIGOTED HORSE SHIT

>>6946171
i really want the persistent uids in threads. far too much sameshit happening. disabling trips and names would save a lot of generals. the only general that doesn't have this problem is femgen which is unfortunately plagued by both trannies and inactivity.

>>6951382
>give everyone IDs
>but get rid of trip/namefagging

Do you idiots seriously not realise that all a name/tripfag has to do is state who they are once per thread to be effectively tripfagged? And that the opportunity for impersonation would lead to a hell of a lot more "I'm Spartacus" samefaggotry shitstorms?

I can see being retarded enough to think either one of these ideas is good on its own, but the amount of people who want them both together and don't seem to see the contradiction is staggering.

>>6951326
>>>/reddit/

Can we at least make it so any ip that posted on /pol/ within the last month is automatically banned from posting on /lgbt/? I think that's honestly the only suggestion that would single handedly improve this board.

>>6947947
how about you kill yourself reddit shit you're the real problem with 4chan

>>6951700
no, retarded

>>6951700
Genius.

Too bad Hiroyuki won't do it. It makes too much sense.

>>6951326
kys

>>6951700
So we would effectively be banned from /pol/ if we want to post here?

I agree on the absolute forced Anon. Remove the fucking namespace to begin with and have thread-based user identification to stop samefagging.

Break the external archives! Some of us don't check /legbutt/ as often as others, so some sort of archive is useful to see if there were any replies to what we have posted.

Also, make official that going into a general, regardless of what general it is, and saying things like "[sexuality] doesn't exist, daddy touched you when you were small/check your whoremoans/it's a mental illness and shouldn't be coddled/you just need a good, hard dicking" is to be considered low-grade trolling and to be discouraged. We want HIGH grade trolling! The kind that when you are looking in the fridge at 0200 and realize "shit, I got trolled!"

As for bringing in Arcanine, only if he can be programmed to delete duplicate generals unless the older general has neared or reached the thread limit. I swear, I've seen at least 3 /cislesgen/ while trying to find the latest /acegen/

>>6952127
Could alternatively do a zero tolerance policy where any of its posters get a long ban for any shitpost.
That'll do a lot to improve quality.

Just make a trans board.
That alone will do a lot of good.
Maybe make it nsfw so they can even post their dicks to each other or something.

Send the FtM with them as well please.

>>6952148
So there would be a different standard of behaviour applied to anyone who has posted on /pol/?

How would you feel if this were applied in reverse?
If for example /sci/ or /diy/ decided that anyone who had previously posted here was held to a higher standard of behaviour?

Posts made in good faith deleted and the user banned because it was assumed to be a shitpost based on the user having posted elsewhere sounds a lot like prejudice and discrimination.

>>6946508
>that filename
doubt.jpg

Hey guys what if we just ruined lgbt so we could hurry up and just kill ourselves already?

>>6952153

oh god no don't make it nsfw it'd be filled with chasers and tacky porn

>>6949880
>>6949880
>>6949880
this guy has the answers

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>>6946171
pls do dis

>>6952655

But all of what he suggests require some level of commitment from mods. Mods on THIS board. Name 1 time they ever gave a shit about anything.

>>6952670
The archive serves a purpose.

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>>6952655
>>6952672
I'm actually a [spoiler]transbian[/spoiler]. On a related note, having spoiler tags would be nice, but they aren't necessary.

Yes, change will require mods to moderate. It's not often that they do it on this board, but it doesn't mean it's impossible.
>Name 1 time they ever gave a shit about anything.
I'll name one time they did so within this thread, >>6949952. To get /lgbt/ on the right track, janitors would be a big help.

>>6952692
Anybody who gives two shits about archives on this board would be happier at a place like reddit. Why any of you newfag shitters insist on shitting up this place and demand changes be made to make 4chan like reddit is supremely idiotic and selfish. Kindly, climb into a wood chipper.

>>6952707
This will be very badly received, but I also like reddit (not cancer like /r/4chan, though). I understand this site serves a different purpose and I don't want it to be the same, but the archive is just here to save make pic saving easier for me.

>>6952672
When I showed my boi boobs they got pretty rattled.

>>6948379
NSFW doesn't auto mean porn. What if we want to show what's going on with our bodies, progress and things like that?

>>6952770
So you can fap because 90 percent of pics posted here are selfies. Get the fuck out the archive caused ufufu to leave cause some shit head followed her to work why was that someone leaked her personal info and how did that happen the fucking archive.

I'm really worried you want to save pics on a non porn board. So much you nrrf an archive of all images of everything on the board.

>>6946500
This and nothing more.

>>6952837
>NSFW doesn't auto mean porn.
Yes. Yes it does.
It doesn't matter if there are other uses. On a board like this, porn is all that would happen.

>>6952837
just post your girltinkler, that's all we care about anyway

>>6945955
can we get a consensus that Hiro blows and we want a new admin?

>>6952770
/r/4chan is not cancer. Just delete the wall with inspect element, then you can browse it..

>>6953958
Agreed

>>6952847
I think using a tripcode had much more to do with that. Also, it would be useful if 4chan were to strip exif data from images.

>>6953991
Ditto, just ban all trips if you're so worried about people tracking you.
>>6952847
The rest of us shouldn't have to loose all our reference archives because you wanted to be a diva and kept handing out all your personal identity despite everyone saying you shouldn't.

This never happens to people who don't trip.

Change from blue board to nsfw.

Ban shit posters instantly. Ban hammer time.

Allow 8mb webms with sound.

Domo.

>>6952178
There's a different standard when near all of the shitposting comes from them. It's sensible, and the bans for shit should be global. They wouldn't care so long as they can post in pol but they'd think again if having to risk their ability to post there.
>>6954526
Ban sounds good. Last year when there wasn't any moderation, half the threads were about bestiality and pedophilia and why those should be more accepted than being gay or Trans. There were lgbt threads all over where pol was discussing how to lynch people best.

Most of unmoded lgbt had nothing to do with lgbt. It's really improved after they started to get a little tougher. They should take it even further to maintain quality.

>>6952134
samefagging isn't a problem.
>break the archives because archives are useful!
wew lad

>>6954492
this

>>6954573
no

We can consensus to oppose trap threads being moved from /a/ to /lgbt/ due to it being unrelated. We have consensus that the image limit should be raised to stop the extreme number of /mtfg/ threads due to them posting many images and the thread going so quickly that they hit the image limit before the thread is pruned. We have either no consensus or consensus against everything else, go figure. I will transmit the results to /qa/ and the admin Hiro.

>>6955148
Who the fuck died and made you fagemperor of /lgbt/?

>>6955279
No one. If you disagree with my interpretation of the consensus reached in this thread and the poll, you can post the disagreement to /qa/.

>>6955148
>>6955279
Here is the /qa/ thread:
>>>/qa/693311

>>6952655
But that guy didn't give any answers in that post? He just called me a newfag 30 times. That's kind of what I repeated the fact that he's a worthless shitstraight.

>>6955304
Here is the comment in the /qa/ general consensus thread:
>>>/qa/693332

>>6949880
This

New thread:
>>6958936