/hong/ - hon general

first for not linking to previous thread

>>6769181
Previous thread >>6673748

So when do you think you'll kill yourselves?

I'm expecting to end it in the next 5 years before I turn 30

Anyone else here never bothered to start HRT because they're ugly and would make an even uglier girl?

I'll probably kill myself at some point

>1. started HRT at 25
>2. disappointed all right
>3. don't want to end up in the hon folder anyway
>4. sorry
>5. ok
>6. i want to die, someone pls kick me in my ugly masculine manface

hi

>>6769191
i'll probably at least wait until the 2 or 3 year hormones mark or so, so 27-29 i guess. if i can get the money i'll try ffs and if i'm still fucked then bye bye it is i guess (assuming no new hopes of new technology)

>>6754494
>>6755167 ->
>>6756753

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started hrt at 25
kill me

friendly reminder to filter all trips you see ITT so we can keep hongen great

>>6769216
Yeah, I started 2 months ago, jumped straight in because I didn't want to wait any longer (started at 25)

It's pretty much one way of delaying suicide, makes you feel a bit better for a while

>>6754494
>tfw therapist straight up says that your shoulders are too wide for a woman

>>6769224
GOODBYE HORSESS
I'M FLYING OVA YOUU

>laser going terribly
Good progress on my upper lip after 2 sessions but they insisted on using the larger, weaker laser on my cheeks to start with

>>6769221
How long have you been on HRT, you presenting yet?

>>6769241
Got anything going for you at all?

>>6769250
L O L no
i refuse to be laughed at as long as i can hold on. 10 months about since i started anything, but it's all self med, and i've switched meds and dosage multiple times
i promised i wouldn't come out unless i started passing organically but given my depression and need of ffs that might not be possible

>>6769272
10 months isn't that long. How's your hair and voice?

>>6769259
nope, i am a filthy NEET shut in
i don't go out much often because i don't want to accidentally scary little children

>>6769286
>NEET
living with mummy?

Been on HRT for 2 months now and I think I might have been a bit too impetuous
Getting laser done too, 2 sessions in

But I'm 25, NEET and probably don't have the highest chance of passing

I'm beginning to have doubts, not about having gender dysphoria but just whether or not to transition
I know I won't be happy as a male, probably won't be too happy as a woman either but is it worth dragging it out when either way I'm probably gonna kill myself somewhere down the line?

>>6769302
yeah ...
you?

>>6769285
past my shoulders and i still look like a man
i haven't practiced in a long time since i'm neet now and it just makes me annoyed anyway

>>6769412
>i haven't practiced in a long time since i'm neet now and it just makes me annoyed
same tbqh
suicide pact when?

>>6769307
i'd say it's worth it precisely because you think you'll kill yourself down the line anyway. it's like tossing the ball from half court with a second left because you're three points down

>>6769419
when i get over my fear of being dead

>>6769423
i fear death too but since i am not living my life i may as well just kill myself
or so i feel

>>6769191
hopefully by the end of this year

i don't want to be alive at all

>>6769224
I think you're kinda cute

>>6769423
>>when i get over my fear of being dead
damn i feel u fampai.

>>6770256
I'm scared because I don't know what happens after you die.

I hope that I just cease to exist, but I have no idea what actually happens.
I just wish I was normal so it didn't have to be this way.

>6769241

Whats your bideltoid shoulder measurement and height? There are some massive women out there. Check this out http://www.bing.com/fd/ls/GLinkPing.aspx?IG=C83471CC437F406BAF61E9EDF43CA805&&ID=SERP,5134.1&SUIH=vmbUyQqmMQHfyoQMfjwA-g&redir=aHR0cDovL2h1bWFuaWNzLWVzLmNvbS9GaXJlRmlnaHRlckFudGhyb3BvbWV0cnkucGRm

>>6769191

You could, but 5 years from now trans acceptance might be huge. Being a hon might suddenly be ok.

>>6769224
>pic
>trip
Kayla you know full well you dont belong here

>>6770433
It's more like not accepting myself than what society thinks

Does starting at 24 automatically make me a hon or do I still have a chance?

>>6770806
kayla cancer is forever 4chan

>tfw long hair to take attention away from my shoulders
i-it kind of works

>>6770841
anyone that starts hrt after puberty is a hon

>>6769224
I'm straight and you look female

>>6770276

I am scared of the physical act of dying.

However, i am very curious to see what happens after i die. I don't really want to die right now, but i have alwas kind of looked forward to my day of reckoning just because i always thought it would be cool to finally find out. Who knows, maybe there's some cool perks to being dead!

>>6770433
>le terf "trannies are just victims of society's patriarchal standards" meme

>1. Must have started HRT at age 24 or later
Started at 30, see left.
>2. Life my be or is projected to be unhappy and full of disappointment
Really it's pretty good though, tfw hot gf
>3. No pics
nah
>4. No trips
nah
>5. No drama
nah
>6. Posts can contain positive elements but must overall be generally negative
I'll pretty much never, ever pass.

>tfw witnessing the birth of a hon and it's killing me

>>6774858
embrace the outer hon, young grasshopper

I've accepted growing my hair and losing weight are just a matter of time and need to relax

But I really wish laser would be much quicker

>tfw started at 21
>tfw full time
>tfw have a full time job
>tfw stealth
im laughing at all you hons :)

>>6775533
I just grow my "beard" out since I can't pass whether I am clean shaven or not.

>>6775577
self-hating hon with dissociative fantasies pls ;^)

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I AM A HON
SOMEBODE PLEASE KILL ME REEEEEE

>>6775578
>clean shaven
get laser, it'll removal your beard shadow, it'll make a difference

>>6775524
it's not me i'm talking about

>>6775629
...
I already had laser and my beard shadow removed.

>>6775737
How many sessions did it take for you?

Gonna need to buy some laxatives, really fucked my diet up

what is love?

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>born too late to live life in semi blissful ignorance
>born too early to become passing early transitioner
>born just in time to be able to buy a gun before HRC presidency for eventual suicide

>>6778142
Doesn't mattter when you're born, killing yourself is always an option

so how do i tell if i qualify as a hon?

>>6781647
You should know but when did you start HRT?

>>6781745
>when did you start HRT?
>implying that matters after 16
lmao.
t. hon that started at 17

I'm a cis guy, and I have a lot faster beard growth at 29 than I did at 25, for example. So starting at 25 might be better than in your 30s.

Your body keeps changing throughout your 20s and you have the highest test level in your 30s (but highest free test level in the early 20s)

>>6781761
i feel like beards don't even make a difference. i never was able to grow that much facial hair and yet my skull is manly and my hairline recessed

>>6781783
>i feel like beards don't even make a difference
It does, mine is really coarse, laser isn't affected those areas

They're going to need to turn the settings up

>>6778142
I actually got to live blissful ignorance for awhile, I was a teenager with agp, in a time when there was no trans cult to turn me into a girl.

>>6781761

Word, I'm a masc monster now in my early 30s.

>>6782462
wasn't it nice?
although hon-estly it probably would have been nicer to have been born later and have the cult convince us to cut our dicks off at a young age

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Will I make it? Should I just start posting in femgen?

>>6785706
>Should I just start posting in femgen
sorry anon, but you are even less femboy than you are tranny...femgen would laugh at you if you posted a picture. chances are you'll just end up a lurker there too, or one of the anons that just constantly bellyache about not being cute.

>>6785871
this hon already posted in femgen lmao
and put on a girlname trip too. pretty sure it's bait

>Started @ 27

>3 yrs HRT

>Turned into gorgeous andro boy.

>Don't dress super femme b/c don't pass that well.

>Lifes going great. Have a good job, have friends, and social life. Straight girls are obsessed with me.

>Haven't had sex in years.

>TFW just want a bf to treat me like his gf.

>Still waiting for FFS & SRS.

Do I belong here?

>>6786062
if you arent a hulking disgrace on legs then no

>25
>2 months (4.5 months if you count the first dosage I was on that blood tests showed up didn't do squat.)
>Feel like I look manlier than ever and seem to still be getting hairier
Kill me.

>>6786144
>tfw too much anxiety to jump through hoops for blood tests so I might still be getting manlier

>is called therapy
>in reality it disrupts the body

chins up you homos, "people" who start taking hormones in their teens are just as repulsive

>>6786743
angry_hon.png

>>6786783
le_mastur_troll.dll

>>6776383
19.

>>6786934
You have a vacuum cleaner mouth, fix that and you'll be fine

>>6786944
>tfw missed the picture by 1 minute

>>6786846
fuck, that's a lot

I'm 2 sessions in, seeing obvious progress to my upper lip, bit on the cheek but nothing else

>>6786948
It was just some meth tweaker transbian

>>6786949
>not just peeling your face open and scraping the follicles out from the inside like a truhon

>>6785706

If you're fat you can only pass as fat. Who cares about whether a fat person is a full woman?

Take care of that if you have any desire to be an attractive (or even non-ugly) woman.

>>6787926
some people are actually big boned in the sense that the only chance for these people to pass is passing as a disgusting fatty. it's pretty tragic to be hon-est

>wake up
>still not asian
SAAAAAAAVE ME

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--was over 30 when I found out was trans (from Usenet board alt.sex.transgender)
--before that thought I was gay, though strangely unattracted to men's bodies
--waited 19 years to be able to afford electrolysis from somebody that wasn't doing it out of their trailer
--I must have an astounding tolerance for pain, at least of the 'being trans sucks' variety
--Best advice ever, from a trans woman named Dallas Denny: "being trans can't be your whole life. You need to be doing something that gives your life meaning BESIDES your lifelong sstruggle with gender. Being trans is some people's "nationality" and they are headed for some kind of personal disaster or otjer." (<--paraphrased)

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>>6792099
White people are better anyway, if you're an ugly white person than you'd be REAAAALLY ugly as an Asian

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>>6792130
with misspelled word. Don't worry about it.

For oldfags of our sort, it's important to remember that envy, bitterness, and grief are enemies you'll always have to fight. Get to know other people, people that treat you like a human, if you can find 'em. More valuable than a cloud of beautiful youth floating wispily around you.

Also:
--young people eventually learn that youth is not an achievement. It's not even a virtue, it's just what you are at the moment [as you sit down with your 40-year-old parents and say "Mom, Dad, I'm a woman" and they say "oh, my goodness...we'll do what it takes to get the best transition ever."]

...unless they think you're saying you're a Mexican and really you're telling them you're a Paraguayan.

>>6792161
Wrong.

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>>6792185
The ideal beauty is white in every culture. White people are the most beautiful, if you cant be pretty as a white person then you're sure as hell not gonna be anything but more ugly as a different race.

>>6792201
fuck off whiteaboo

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>>6792201
This. Too bad our pathological altruism makes it impossible for us to believe in our superiority as a group. Then there's also the fact that we've had 70 years of Jewification so we now think that it's freedom to get fat and stupid. It could have been different.

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>parents tell you they almost adopted a kid but had you instead
>tfw they should have adopted

>tfw born with brain damage and trannyism
>no hope of a normal life or a happy future
>totally healthy baby brother caught flu off me and died when I was 2
>tfw it should have been me who died

Fuck this and fuck everything
Every time I see some teenager on here on hormones or fuck even thinking about it, meaning at least knowing that's a thing I want to strangle them
Why did I have to be born so fucking early
If I were born today I'd never end up a disgusting manbeast and I can never get over that

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>you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass >you will never pass

>>6795796
>If I were born today I'd never end up a disgusting manbeast and I can never get over that

You will never be happy, but you can kill yourself and end the misery. Have you considered that?

>>6792365

But without jews jewing we'd have a lot less research/treatment/rights for transgender people.

>>6800468
>implying Hitler's Aryan National Socialist scientists wouldn't have created full genetic transitions by now, allowing us to simply live non-degenerate, non-outcast lives, and not chain us to a lifetime of (((prescriptions))), expensive surgeries, ostracism, and the lack of fulfillment knowing we can never have babies (or for ftm, father them as it were).

The Jews love the torture. Look up their methods used in (((Soviet))) Russia, famalam.

>>6795796
I can relate. If i had only a sex education and/or free access to the internet then i couldve and wouldve transistioned at 14 or so, but nooo.

hrt made my shoulders bigger

>>6800558
how is that even possible???

>>6800575
shutup

>>6800663
really, tell me!

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Okay, time to get really gay and sappy.

Y'all, I see a lot of talk of suicide in this thread and I know it's difficult...But you only get one life, please don't throw it away because society rejects you. Don't throw it away because of dysphoria. Please don't add to the statistic of trans women's suicide. I'm not MTF, I'm FTM, but I care about you all. My good friend is a 29 year old trans woman who only recently started transitioning. She tried to an hero and I fear for her life everyday. Please girls, you're all worthy and deserving of life and respect and happiness.

If any of you want someone to talk to add me on skype: Alternating__current (two underscores)

>>6800862
Easy for you to say as a ftm who cannot be a Hon

>>6800484
We would have just been gassed t bh

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Is alexis arquette queen of the hons?

>>6801176

poor alexis.
apparently she can no longer afford the face-fillers that her visage so desperately needs.
perhaps we should start up a collection to help her pay for botox and restylane. at this rate she'll be able to play the crone in sleeping beauty unretouched!

>>6801176
What the fuck is that shit

>>6801113
>ftm who cannot be a Hon
he still can be a total aiden tho :^)

>>6801615
not if he takes test

where can i go?
this board is getting filled with young transitioners and r.eddit is full of delusional-type hons

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>>6801645
Nowhere because there's literally only two types of mtf, the young ones who are just starting to toy around with internet hormones and will detransition in two years

and the delusional 25+ nutters who legit believe hrt will shrink their shoe size and have been totally taking pueraria mirifica for 3 months and they have C cup boobs now, who will also detransition in two years (after they ruin their marriage and lose custody of their kids)

oh and the porno freaks like bailey jay and natalie who will suicider at 40.

That's IT man there's no real place to just talk with real transbros probably because transition is 98.5% just an internet meme

>>6801113
The Fuhrer was a man of science and humane values as shown by his policies on treatment of animals and banning animal testing, nature conservation, workers rights and social welfare policies. He would have empathy for our plight, provided that we were committed to non-degenerate family values. His distaste for the Jew only came about after a long, and painful deliberation. He didn't want to believe, but the truth is the truth, and thus he had to accept it. See the following excerpt from his memoir. If Trump is even half the man Adolf was, the world will be a much nicer place to live in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zv4U1NZpl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZ_1u-hKlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xarv7Pl4YXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65b_PHB1cZM
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/%EF%BB%BF12-things-not-told-adolph-hitler-nazi-germany/

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>tfw you know that it are a yung hon, but everyone hugboxes you
Why do people hugbox do much?
>>6801645
Hang with the yung hons.

>>6802049
and where else do yung hons congregate?

IFUCKED UP.
>>6802100
Hmmm, I trip in mtfg, but I'm on /r9k/ a lot. /r9k/ has a lot of the same feels. I hang in here too and get told I'm lying, but that's life.

>>6785706
- Lose weight
- Hormones
- DO YOUR FUCKING EYEBROWS
- Grow your hair and straighten it, get a hairstyle that shortens your face.
- Dress for your body type and age. Trannies like dressing like oversexualized hourglass shape teenagers in too small clothing.
- Make up, contouring and eyes especially

3 is crucial, I see so many trannies who would pass if they did their fucking eyebrows. One of my friends went from femboy to girl after I plucked her eyebrows and put on a little make up.

Do all those things and if you're under 30 I rarely see people not pass at least some of the time. At the very least you'll get read as a trans woman rather than GNC male/femboy and will get gendered correctly.

>>6801695
>the young ones who are just starting to toy around with internet hormones
I want to kill them all

>>6801645
Reddit has plenty of kids too, probably more than here, it's just that reddit has more users in total

>>6803738

>I see so many trannies who would pass if they did their fucking eyebrows

Hon science: The post

If you need make up or hair styling to """"pass"""" then chances are people don't actually see you as a woman and are just being nice to you.

>>6803925
No one really passes, it's just about getting as close as you can

>>6801645
>>6803912

I give reddit credit, some of the girls in r/transpassing are doing a good job.

>>6804147
>this is a success story
>https://www.reddit.com/r/transpassing/comments/4zt1mv/sorry_to_post_again_just_wanted_to_let_you_all/
>still looks manly

>>6804179
That's not bad though
Not even close to hon tier

>>6803738
>straighten it,
don't fucking do this unless you want shitty damaged hair
it's only for literal retards
only do it occasionally, not every day and use heat protection

>>6801624
>implying there aren't unpassing ftm even after years of testosterone
mostly those who don't work on their voice and still have feminine speech patterns and resonance

>>6804200
dat nose and jaw though

>>6804179

Definitely masc and looks like broad shoulders but there is much worse out there.

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>>6804179
>r/transpassing
>sort by: controversial
>mfw

>>6804684
You look like jacksfilms

>tfw repressed 21yo masculine 6'4 future hon
>helped my 5'4 18yo mtf qt girlfriend transition
she's fucking beautiful, was such a cute nerdy femboy prior to her transition and is the love of my life. I'm fucking happy for her, but I will never experience that joy outside the bedroom. I could never live easy like that.

>>6805505
>>helped my 5'4 18yo mtf qt girlfriend transition
REEEEEEEEEE

You don't belong here

>>6805519
I wasn't planning on her being trans when we first dated. We were just two faggots. ;-;

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>>6805505
>5'4 18yo mtf
>tfw you were 17 and you still ended up here

>>6804684
ah, i thought you couldn't downvote on that reddit. i guess it's another one

>>6804214

>what is chemical straightening

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>>6792130

Are you that hon that reddit worships, like hypatia something.

>>6804179
>>6804537
I think she's actually hot, you people have completely unrealistic expectations of transition

>>6810015
Because it is a great success. In that picture she passes 100% and is quite attractive. If anyone thinks that person is close to being a hon at all, they need to get the fuck out of this thread and leave us alone

>>6810092
Not that person but my point was that's the best most 20 year old MtFs are going to get and it's acceptable. You're all deluded if you think that unless you look completely cis you're a hon.

>>6810092
Back to mtfg with you, young tranny

Don't die

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>>6814794
what reason is there to live?

>>6814815
Thing *might* get better

HON ANGRY (at my own hondom)
HON SMASH!

Want to choke the life out of everyone who transitioned before the age of 22

I'm 22 in 2 months, have I left it too late?

I'm still short and skinny so I've got that going for me, and I look younger

>>6814868
FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF

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Might as well post a up to date picture here.

>>6814890
>barrel chest bod
iktf
someone kill me

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>>6814890
2

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>>6814898
I have been on hrt for little over a month. Currently Cutting a lot of weight to a goal of 140 to 135. And also run and squat for better hips, butt and legs.

>>6814879
My hormones are arriving next week too so I'll definitely make it before 22. Why won't you be happy for me?

But still I'm worried it's too late

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>>6814895
Yeah I just started waist training to help bring in my lower rips and hopefully take a little away from the barrel chest.

>>6814916
heshe can't be happy for you because this is hongen. everybody is bitter here and want everyone who remotely looks like a woman dead.
get out potential passer reee

>>6814923
by the way what's your height, ribcage, shoulder and hips size as for now?

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>>6814936
I am not 100% sure actually s far as body measurements. Height wise I am 5'10-5'11. I'll be sure to buy a tap measure when I'm out today. Pic related is me about 4 or 5 months ago.

>>6814973
>this can't be real
post a picture with your face and 3 fingers up

>>6814853
this

>>6814916
fuck off faggot
go to the million other threads where you can attention whore and feel welcome. you're not welcome here

>>6814973
you belong but trip off. report back with measurements when you can

>watching Pokemon movie marathon on kids TV

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>>6815004
here ya go.

>>6815076
belong? and will do.

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Even if things look bleak now there is always The Future™ to look forward to:

>stem cell female limbs and face
>brain transplant into test tube brainless female body
>mind upload into synethetic gynoid body
>mind upload into virtual world with female avatar

>>6815140
leave yourself an out b/c you'd be fine as cis
being non passing trans is the worse and could ruin your life

>>6815140
>>6815140
as in, you're welcome here among us

>>6815161
sadly it's the only thing that will always prevent me from killing myself

>>6815140
>another cute boy falling for the trans memes
Damn shame

>>6815215
>another cute girl tragically disfigured by testosterone
FTFY

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>>6815215
>>6815177
believe me when I say, that I tried the whole being an decent looking male and I always revert back to wanting to transition. so fuck it.

>when someone who obviously passes starts a thread asking if they pass

reeeee

>>6816803
>when a young obviously passing tranny invades hongen and complains that some irrelevant feature that isn't even masculine makes her a hon
>when a young obviously passing tranny takes any opportunity to share how early she started hormones and how short she is

>>6817873
tbqhwy it's more of a what the fuck went wrong? like all the stars aligned, but yr still a hon.
Good thing this post is about someone else, since my features stand the fuck out.

I'm 6'00", my underbust is 31", and I have 17 inch shoulders. Am I a hon?

>>6806536
I was 6'4 by the time i was 16 and played on the football team, yet she is still so cute.

>>6774858
OH FUCK IT'S HAPPENING LADS

hon just posted another picture of honself in makeup and beard shadow and bright pink tanktop thing. deffo not even on hormones

at least i might seem sane in comparison, eventually

>alway talk to younger trans friends who would try and give me help and support
>never truly resonated, they're either really young or already on mones
>Find this place
>Immediately connect with everyone here and feel their suffering and desires to die

I didn't even turn 24 that long ago, I just want my life to end. Being AGP all my life fucked me

>>6814973
jesus fuck, rail me up the ass once or twice before your dick dies.

>>6820046
why do you have younger trans friends? they're only going to cause you pain

>>6820151
I don't know. All I do is suffer anyways so why not.

>tfw 17" shoulders
kill me now

>>6819042
You sound like me, except I was short and broad shouldered with a lumberjack beard.
>>6821333
Ehhh, those are broad AF, but you might? Be able to get away with it depending on height. Well other features matter as well, but height more so.

>>6821479
>Ehhh, those are broad AF
I read the average for a woman is 14"

Is 3 inches really that huge?

>>6822265
yeah. i'm almost 16" so i feel u. it's not the worst, but it is getting fucked.

>>6822265
even one inch makes a difference

>>6822967
1/4" makes a difference...

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>>6826326
>tfw started at 20
O hongen, please hear my plea, give me aid and succor, that i may join your ranks. The young trannies with not disgusting shoulders and ribs are mean to me. I have nowhere else to turn.

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>wake up
>still a hon

Are these Hon measurements?

Chest: 37.5
Bust: 39.5
Underbust: 33.5
Waist: 31
Shoulders: 17
Hip: 42

>>6769168
this is the thread i would hang out in if i was trans

>>6830144
Chest: 37.5
Bust: 39.5
Underbust: 33.5
what did honself mean by this?

>>6830144
what is shoulder circumference?

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>>6830078
Same.
>>6830144
Better than mine...
Bust: 38
UB: 35.7
W:29
S: 15.8
H:43
>tfw fat with a barrel chest

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>>6830144
No, these are:

Ribcage: 37
Bust: -HRT didn't give me any-
Underbust: 36
Waist: 33
Shoulders: 18
Hip: 38

>>6830144
>>6832344
>all those big hipped lesser hons who think they have it bad
hisssss!

>>6832390
Ehhh it doesn't make up for a massive manly chest
>>6832402
>shoulders negate a massive ribcage
Hmmmmmmmmmm

>tfw no chaser will ever chase you

>all these fucking widehipz in my hongen
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Thanks goys, this thread helped kick me back into supression mode

>>6832792
>wide hips make you not a hon
Ishygddt

>>6832959
Aha! You have fallen for our Jewish tricks again my friend! In fact we will only delay you, creating an even more disgusting and degenerate hon in the future - it is called "investment," a concept we Jews are very familiar with.

>>6833025
>>6832443
they kind of do though

>started hrt at 28

Get on my fucking level.

Get pity passed but that's only because I wear dresses, as soon as I put on pair of pants I get sir'd to hell.

On mones a year so far, might give it one more year then I'll kill myself if it's hopeless (probably is)

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>>6834089
Nothing can compensate for my gargantuan ribcage.
My ribcage is probably worse than my personality.

>>6834212
if you're 37ub 38 hips person, fine.
but the other two 40+ hips people, no

>>6834252
I'm the 43. It doesn't negate it. People only look at the measurements without taking into account proportions. My shoulders are massive on me, but look small on paper. I have an oil barrel where my ribs should be. Nothing can negate that. It will always be noticeable. That's not even taking into account my face.

I transed at 30. Went fulltime a couple weeks *before* starting hormones. I havent looked back once. I love myself now and I'd never kill myself over my appearance and damn sure wouldnt over what some mouthbreathing fucktard thought or said about my appearance. Yall need Jesus. I'm not even fucking joking. Learn to love yourselves for fuck's sake.

>>6834355
How the fuck could I love a disgusting abomination that scars the land it walks upon? How can I love an NFL player with the face of an eldritch horror? I am unlovable. I am a truly disgusting freak, and treat myself as such.

>>6834265
YOUR UNDERBUST IS 33 AND YOUR HIPS ARE 42
THAT IS A GOOD RATIO
WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?


you haven't even given shoulder circumference so we can't use that

>>6834406
I'm the 35.7" anon. I mistyped that since its 34.7" desu.
OK? I have a few good ratios. What about the fucking chin to red of face ratio? What about my cromag brow? What about my stronger than steel jawline?

>>6834422
holy fuck. I swear to god if you're that fucking young tranny who keep coming in here i'm going to reach through the computer screen and strangle you to death. YOUR RATIOS ARE EVEN FUCKING BETTER YOU PIECE OF SHIT HOLY FUCK
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE

>>6834438
I am that one. Ratios don't fucking mean shit when you look like a fucking man all the time.I an the fucking person that posts lamezone and dfw. I very you fucking look way better than I do.

>>6834448
get out of here and kill yourself. please adopt a trip so we can filter you

>>6834448
I bet* not very. Reee auto correct. Also please do kill me. I'm too much of a punk bitch to diy.

>>6834457
I have one. I take it off since it's no trips in here.
>hon not allowed in hongen
Hmmmmmmm

>>6834468
Yes and it's also no youngshits. Leave.

>>6834438
Holy shit you people are fucking nuts.

Sincerely,
~a passer

>>6834494
If you were a hon you'd be fucking nuts too

>>6834482
So where the fuck do yung hons go? I stated early and I'm short. That doesn't mean I don't look like I'm a fucking dwarf. Fuck, I mean Frodo's companions are more fem than me.
I'm trying in mtfg, but that doesn't mean I'm not a fucking hon. That doesn't mean I'm not jealous of almost every fucking girl there. Starting past 16 men's you stand a lot less of a chance. My fucking brow was as massive as it is now from 13.
>>6834494
Jelly AF, senpai.

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>>6834507
lets make a thread for young hons x_x
pic related it's my disgusting self

>>6834482
What is defined as a youngshit?

>>6834519
>>6769168

>>6834522
I started at 25, but I pass (29.5" underbust, wide hips, parents paid for FFS, yada yada yada). I guess by the thread rules I just made the age cutoff and am allowed to stalk this thread and harass you.

>>6769191
>>6769216
Why don't you just learn drag techniques? I've seen some ugly ass men turn into good looking "women". Though you'd have to ti>>6769221
Tonee it down

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I totally didn't forget to trip off. I deleted it for a different reason that I don't know about.
>>6834514
That's just more threads. And fuck me, I'm fucking jelly of you. ;-; Should I just post my fucking eldritch horror of a face then? I don't even know where to go.
I'm stuck in this nether irl, and online now. I don't have any space to exist. I'm outside of the passing dichotomy right now. Fuck it,I already broke a rule, fuck it.
I wish there was a spoiler on here. It's fucked up so not give ppl the option to not look.
I feel like it would just be "you're not a hon, I am!" forever.
>>6834550
Passing without extensive makeup is passing. Small amounts are excusable.

>>6834550
you don't pass if you have to use makeup to "pass"

>>6834557
I don't think you look that bad. Could use FFS, but most of us, hon or not, could use some.

>>6834586
This is what I mean when I say hugboxing is rampant in here. I have no giving chance of passing without ffs, yet somehow I'm not a fucking hon. When I post my height and shit, it's mainly because it shouldn't have been this way. I was supposed to have an easier transition. My brow, chin, and jaw are all out of appropriate tolerances when compared with averages.

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>>6834557
>>6834514
yaassss! seriously we younghons should make are own group. these old people are so mean

>>6835721
beard is literally the one thing that doesn't fucking matter at all

>>6835799
I literally always have beard shadow

>>6835906
beard is 100% fixable to the point where it can be completely negated as a negative. yes it costs money but everything does

oh look it's the yung passers are trolling us yung hons again

i wish a thousand necrotic plagues upon you and your families

>>6835926
Literally no such thing as a young hon, it's a temporary state

>>6835916
It can take over a year to fix bears though and you might pick up some burns along the way

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>>6835930
wrong
i transitioned at 17, 21 now. hondom is forever. hormones don't fix a caveman brow, he-man chin, or 16" shoulders

>>6835936
nigga stop trolling before i hulk out thanks to all that testosterone i have been exposed to over the years and slap you across the monitor

>>6835936
>16 inch shoulders
True hons ate at least 17 inch

>>6835938
>>6835942
i'm not trolling. i'm a disgusting fucking hon and i want to die. you can't see in that picture but my shoulders are fucking huge and everythign is out of proportion

>>6835947
You're Asian, you all look the fucking same regardless of gender

>>6835947
>i'm a disgusting fucking hon
riiiight
the only thing you are is a disgusting fucking liar suffering from BDD tbqh

>>6835949
just because some white people have shit eyes doesn't mean i don't look like a man beast

>>6835958
no

>>6835960
yea
e
a

>>6830899

45 inches

>>6833059
but if anon finds a better normie life instead of giving into this degeneracy/wish fullfillment, then he wins

>>6834664
srsly senpai? i don't pass for fucking shit. you either aren't her, or you know you aren't a fucking hon.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>6835926
yung hon that wasn't trolling reporting in.
>>6835936
fuck. i'm jelly af rn.
>>6835958
>BDD
bdd is a fucking meme. don't fall for it.

>tfw laser going well

need to get my eyebrows sorted now

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>it's a "young passers want to make us feel even shittier" thread

>>6801176

They should have stayed a man.

>>6839630
cruel

>>6839630
Look at the nose. Jews are depraved attention whores, he had no choice.

>>6826388
>tfw none of my fellow hons welcome me to the fold

>>6844198
because your hips are as wide as your shoulders. get out

>>6844222
The length of my waist to my shoulders is man tier. 37.5 in underbust and a broad chest and gross moobs. Fuckhuge shoulders and broad back

I have a fat boy ass but that doesnr make up for my hips despite being large are male (cant cross my legs very easily and knees together isnt natural) and my shoulders being football star material

>>6844239
>started at 20
i told you to get out

>>6844281
I used to live with a pre hrt femboy self hating tranny and she called me a hon and gross due to my shoulders. I belong here. Young transitoners will never accept me. Unless i top them like a man ofc

>>6844287
sorry, no. the young trannies in mtfg call each other hons all the time and it doesn't mean anything. leave us alone

>>6844306
I have a 37.5 in underbust. 38B bras are too tight. 17.5 in shoulders. Above average male collar bone measurement. I am a fucking hon if i dont have this thread i have nothing

>>6844315
And above average collar/neck size. Im built like a tank

How do y'all measure your shoulders? It seems that not everyone measures theirs in the same way... Can my being 6' with 28" hips and gazelle legs compensate enough?

>>6844395
28" circumference?
circ is best measurement for consistency and to recognize depth

>>6844467

Is 45 shoulders hon?

Chest: 37.5
Bust: 39.5
Underbust: 33.5
Waist: 31
Shoulders: 17
Hip: 42

>>6844480
fuck off
get out
you've been reminded of this multiple times faggot

>>6844480
Post your tits. If they look like moobs maybe. If theyre cis girl tits get out

Considering youre a fucking C cup theyre probably cis tier

>>6844514
>>6844535

I want to know about the shoulders though. I don't want to post pictures and anger people.

>>6844535
this person is just a young tranny troll. the exact measurements have already been posted in this thread and it's just someone who wants to insult us
don't encourage it

>>6844567
If you have cis tier tits your shoulders do not fucking matter get out
I have huge gross shoulders in fact i just posted before here, follow the chain up to pics of my disgusting shoulders

If yours look better than mine and you have cis tits (which you clearly do since youre avoiding pics) get the fuck out. Hons only here

>>6844581
just ignore the troll

>>6844581
this person posts pictures all over the place to fuck with us. just ignore it

>>6844514
>>6844535
>>6844569
>>6844581
>>6844586

Fuck, I'm legit not trolling. I don't fucking get it. I'm 28 years old.

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Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the most disgusting hon of them all?
>"Sir hon, you are the grossest here,
but surely you are no Chris Chan tier."

[Daily reminder that even hons are not that disgusting.]

>>6844769
I killed a man once just by being seen by him

>>6844812
You back to /medg/, medusa! You don't belong here.

>>6844812
"Once there was an ugly [hon]. [It] was so ugly that everyone died! The end."

>>6844769
i like this post though
a lot of these people seem so down on themselves [unironically] and i wish i could help, but i am far too inexperienced

>>6844846
>these people
you meant "us," right?

>>6844860
i though about this specifically for a while
i don't know what i am, and i won't pretend to understand what they go through
i'm still too much of a coward to even start taking mones
i do wish i could help alleviate some unnecessary stress though, just don't know how

>>6844769
The other day I was walking in a store and a little boy looked at me and started crying. He grabbed onto his mom's pant leg and said
>Mommy I thought you said monsters weren't real!
while pointing at me

>>6844918
You sound more like a case of facial surgeries gone wrong than a hon tbqh

>>6769168
>Am turning 25 this month and no HRT
>Kurt Coban.jpg

>>6844954
no surgeries

>>6844959
I started HRT a couple days after my 25th, only 2 months in so can't say much more

>>6844913
take the hormones.

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cis girls have large ribcages too huns!!

>>6844913
hrt won't change your male skeleton
and turn you into a hon (see above)

>>6845756

I'm guessing thats photoshopped, but it does demonstrate the absurdity of some extreme masc bodied men trying to transition. Although in all fairness I think an actual tranny would have a larger skull
than pictured. Which would reduce the apparent size of the ribcage a bit.

Consider the "ideal" 36-24-36, if we assume thats a b cup it would be 34 inch ribcage. Thats quite close to a 1:1 ribcage to hip ratio, which should overlap into cismale ranges.

Although the tranny with 36" bust and hips will probably have broader shoulders and a straighter waist than her cis equivalent.

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>>6846801
>I'm guessing thats photoshopped
>"guessing"
This is obviously photoshopped, anon.

What hons and non-hons alike have to learn is to differentiate between
>passing
and
>being attractive.
As you pointed out correctly in the photoshopped picture the head does not match the rest of the body and the result is freakish. But think of the original head of that male body. They could try to pass as the masculine looking female russian athlete type (pic related). Their chances to pass will increase significantly, though I am not saying that it will definately be so. But it's their only realistic chance.

I've seen many hons who do not recognize that they have to integrate many manly looking aspects into their female attire. They are rather trying to look like the ideal woman, a model or something, and dress like that. But with that ribcage (>>6845756) most dresses, for example, will simply not work. They should go for pullovers and generally wear larger fitting clothing, so pull just a little bit the oversized look. The worst you can do as a hon having a body like that is wearing tight clothes. Sadly, that's what most of them do, they wear their clothing skin tight. They think it'll make them look thinner, but the exact opposite is true, it'll only make it worse.

I feel disgusting. People humor me and say nice things, but I know it is an illusion and I am a delusional insane person.

>>6846251
i'm okay with this
i don't want to be a girl, silly
i just want bigger hips and a more femmy face

>>6801695

>oh and the porno freaks like bailey jay and natalie who will suicider at 40.

sour grapes

>>6846960
funny thing is cis fems do this too
i'm sure we've seen fat girls wear tight clothing, even when they have no figure

but they're cis, so anything goes
while trans do/should work harder to pass

>>6847730
yes, good point, anon.

I've also seen ciswoman getting misgendered because of shit like this. But most fat girls in skin tight clothes pass... that does not make them any less sassy though.

18 yo boy. Probably not trans but not sure what the future will bring. "Gender neutral" body shape. no wide shoulders or hips, face is also quite neutral. It probably wont change, and if i shave myself fully and crossdress i can easily pass as a tomboy girl, and if i put some make-up and good quality wig on nobody would question that i'm a female. Sorry hons. I feel you. But i couldnt resist to piss you off with this. Find happiness if you can.

>>6848192
>is 18 years old
>no HRT or anything
>thinks they can pass with a wig and make-up

Maybe, anon. But you can never be sure to pass just by your judgement alone.

>>6848192
>wearing a wig
>passing
okay famalamalino

>>6848210
I don't "think" it. I could pass. I tried it many times and all the people seemed to think i'm a simple girl like all the others. However i dont enjoy it that much. I'm just 'lucky' to have a body that i can turn into both genders

>>6848233
>"could"
>"seemed"
It's more likely that you just look like a transvestite like all (other) trannies who think they could pass with nothing but make-up and a wig.
But I don't know you, maybe you are an exception..

>>6848229
some of the best lessons are learned when you fail

the tard above is full of it
passing takes time, even for an experienced cd like myself

>>6848233
prove it, post video w time stamp

What's too large for a ribcage?

Where do you measure it? above or under the bust

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>>6851928
here are some scattered ratios i've come across from various sources, but unfortunately i've found no sources for underbust ratios

i think it's safe to say that ribcage >= hips is bad

>>6851981
i don't know how to read this

I don't know why this thread becomes so popular. It's a sad place for sadder people, and you're just perpetuating your crippling depression and self-hatred. This is really what you want out of your life? Maybe instead of just fucking sitting on your ass and feeding into your insecurities and shortcomings you could learn how to change the way you view your "failures," but I guess this route is easier.

So you're not a goddess, big fucking deal, not every cis-woman is attractive. Ya'll need to grow up.

>>6855137
The existence of trans-women who pass better triggers me more than cis-women

>>6855137
t. Passing shitter in desperate need of suicide

Almost at bump

>>6855137
Uhhhhh, that's OK. I'm fine with being ugly. I just want to pass. I don't stand a fucking chance with my fucking cromag face.

>>6861798
Get FFS.

>>6861839
i probably still would look like shit

If your at a party and the bathroom is taken, do you pee in the back of the house standing up?

>>6769224
I have and always will wanted to fuck you

>>6769674
>>6769464
>>6769423
>>6769419
>>6769307

You are terrified and will not off yourselves. Quit lying about this. Take your hormones and focus on being cute. Boys will like you, we will fuck anything. Relax.

>>6862498
>being cute
impossible
>boys will like you
worthless. boys are disgusting

>>6862498
>we will fuck anything
agreed, to an extent

>>6862502
>boys are disgusting
agreed, but i like their personalities more personally
not to mention they tend to make good doms

>>6862502
That's pretty mean, hon.

>>6862534
i'm an ugly, broken, bitter person. would you expect anything else?

>>6862502
>boys are disgusting
i don't agree with this hon

>>6862472
trip on kayla, sicko

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>it's a young """"""""hon"""""""" post