/ftmg/ FTM General - Duck and duck accessories edition

Xth for your all faggots

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>>6506822

y-you too

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i think the multitude of mods ive crammed into me3 has finally caught up with me and things are slowly breaking

how do i stop my gay feelings guys?

>>6506869

You get no Commander Shepard bf

>>6506876

Suck dicks

>>6506876
Fuck a dude in the ass

>>6506876
Sorry, gay is chronic, even terminal.

At least you're not straight.

Where do I get a cis bf that will adopt me as his naughty catboy?

>>6508229
Is that real? I thought they'd all die from old age or something by now.

>tfw while I'm stroking my penis pretending it's a clitoris I suddenly get a thought of what if I was a ftm stroking my clitoris pretending it was a penis and I get very thoughtful and then I'm not horny anymore and I stop masturbating and go take a leak

Life is suffering.

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>>6508565

k den

what u listening /ftmg/
https://youtu.be/RrkzIN2eP0U

>>6509088
Im watching "i am cait".

Im realizing i would like her better if she didnt have scary botox face.

>>6508631
why do i feel like this was originally homestuck fanart

>tfw no cute bf to watch fireworks and cuddle with

Just kill me

>>6507826
>tfw no maki of my own

Does anyone else have issues getting T because of lack of insurance?

Can you get Obamacare for cheap?

Does it cover it, is the cost worth it, or better just saving money and paying directly?

>>6509436
There's to many trees here to see the fireworks despite theyre close and I'm too lazy to make the drunk bike ride so I'm content sitting on my porch pretending there's a war going on with all the noise.

>tfw doubting my gender bc i love girls and yuri so much
>mfw i know the fact liking girls and animu lesbians doesnt take away the fact i want a dick and no tits but still
i'm dumb and i don't want to bitch about this anywhere else because i don't want some tumblr fag telling me i'm an uwugendered fruitcake

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>>6509528
>Getting insurance to cover hrt

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhhahahaahahahaha happy fourth of july, my fellow ameritard

>>6509528
I dont know of any. But t is generally pretty cheap without it. I pay 75$ for a 6month vial. Someone else here said they pay like 50$ for a vial.

Now someone needs to help me find an insurance that will cover a double mastectomy.

>>6509620
>>6509528
What states are you guys in?
>MassHealth covers T and all the surgeries

Also, >>6509620, who are you and why are you tripfagging?

>>6509595
>Xhe hasn't embraced Xis identity as a anchorgendered dolphinkin
Step it ^ senpaitchi.

>>6509728
Michigan. Im tripping because.

>>6509809
Hey cool, I'm from Michigan too!

>>6509528
My Florida Medicare covers t

>>6509821
Where at? Im in laingsburg.

>>6509946
I'm in Grand Rapids

>>6509809
Stop it, unless you give us a reason to care. Earn your distinction or trip off newfriend

Degenerates. You'll never be real men. You think you can ever be big and tough? Please. It's a little more than entertainment for me to see such a crude and galling affront to anything even close to a MAN.

Me and my REAL dick are laughing at you all desu

>>6510758
Nice timing, anon

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>>6510758
>Please.

i chuckled

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>>6510758

>practising oral using a hotdog
Was this a good idea or a great idea?

Oh, any tips/tricks/advice?


>tfw jaw hurts after an embarrassingly short time and mouth is very small
>tfw at least you get to eat a well felatiate frank after

Hey guys my sister is a fag
and she wanted to date this girl, but the girl turned ftm on her
the girl (now guy) is pretty happy and is dating a milf

idk it seems like its working out for him, probably stupid post but just thought i'd share
you guys seem nice

>>6511077
faggot

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>>6511088

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>>6511094
Prooblem?

Going into the military soon, but when should I tell them I'm trans? Should I tell my recruiter? Or wait until the end of boot camp? I just don't want to fuck anything up for myself

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>>6511077
>not training himself to ignore his gag reflex
weak

>>6511526
It's not even gagging (though that is an issue, probably), my jaw locks up. When I go to the dentist they still use the kids' sized stuff.

How do train, pls sempai

Looks like I'm not made for sucking the D... Ah well, back to being forever alone asexual

>>6511627
sorry bud i dont think i can help you with that, with my hyper extensible jaw and all.

along with utilising hands and spit, remember balls exist and also big sloppy open mouthed kisses with a bunch of tongue.

go make me proud anon.

>>6511638
*extendable whoops

>>6509436

just go find one... finding people is easy enough


>>6509581

fireworks always make me think of ww2 movies... there weren't any actually in the town here, but people were setting them off on their own

my s/o and i went to a smoke spot by the river and the spot we smoked in was really secluded, but further down these people had a bunch of fireworks so we got to see a lot of them... i preferred it to really going anywhere though

it rained a bit though after we left, it had been a while since i've walked in the rain though so that was nice... ended up almost falling asleep on a bench in this public garden at one point, did the same thing as you there cuz i could hear them, but not really see them

>>6511638
>with my hyper extensible jaw and all.
It's like you were actually built for all the degeneracy you espouse.

>>6511812
You're completely from another world brooklyn, for normal people finding a bf isn't easy.

>>6510009
We should get sushi.

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>>6511848
i can also get my knees up by my ears

>>6511849

guess i must, i hear it often enough... the "another world" bit

idk, most of what i encounter are people who want like serious exclusive relationships and shit + it seems like it's harder to make a relationship last than just finding one... i haven't been single since before i graduated hs though so i don't really know what that's like i suppose, just what it's like having people want really serious shit then not being able to handle sharing... i just tend to figure if it happens to me, and i'm shy as hell with that and never make the first move then it probably is just completely normal cuz i'm nothing special and all that...

>>6511866

so can i... that's not something you need to be hyper-extendable for... just saying

>>6511931
i know, but its still not that common. you do need a level of flexibility to do it that a surprising amount of people dont have.

>>6511936

suppose i never thought about it...

>tfw shot day

I switched to subq and it's a lot easier on my anxiety. What needle size do y'all use for injecting and do you do IM or subq?

>>6509595
I have the same problem actually. I just try to remember that liking girls and yuri and shit doesn't make me a girl, just a lover of girls

I'm not an FtM, but I did have a question about bottom surgery.
I've seen that both methods have certain problems:
>Meta: you can get hard normally and pee with it, plus minimal surgery risk, but micropenis
>Phallo: you can pee with it and have good size, but higher surgery risk and needs a pump or implant to get hard

I was wondering if anyone has ever considered getting meta to create the initial penis from the clitoris, then using phallo to increase the length to a more usable size (phallo is already used on cis-males to increase their length, with no effect on erectile ability and minimal impact on sensitivity). Surely this way, you would have a self-erecting, normal-sized penis.

>>6512531
That's the standard procedure with phallo, actually, but you still need a pump.

>Therapist calls me a good girl
ree

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My AC is busted and its hot as balls in here.

>>6512531
it's not possible to move the clitoris up to where the head of the penis is, the current procedure will either bury the clitoris under the phallus or leave it where it is - if the patient wants. In this way, sensation is still retained (according to studies, 75% report good sensation).

>>6512896
My ass hair is getting so long that it actually tangles.

What the fuck? Do other dudes just deal with this?

>>6512964
Yes. You can shave or get laser. But laser will regrow eventually.

>>6512883
Mirin pants-meat, pham

>>6512883

Do you own boots?

>>6513084
Yeah.

>>6512140
1 1/4 in? (at least) x 18 gauge IM
I sink the needle very slowly to ease through it.

>>6513173
Whoops 21 or 23 gauge not 18

>>6513160
don't think anyone wants to fuck a dude who puts "man" in scare quotes

>>6513204
>le ebin trol XDDdd

>>6512140
23g 1 1/4 in, subq. I think an inch would be plenty for subq, but I haven't found that.

>>6513105

BOOT ON HEAD

>>6513392

i thought the same thing...

>>6509821
Oh hey I'm from Michigan too. Avoid Dr Mark Sikorski if you are still looking for doctors. He sexually assaults/harasses his patients and has a lawsuit against him for such. He's in East Michigan.

>>6512140
I do IM, 25G 1in or 5/8in

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>>6512140
I use 23g with a 1" needle. I have a harder time jabbing in the longer needles.

Also i still have every needle ive used in a metal container. I kind of like the collection.

>>6513672

what an unsanitary collection...

>>6513685
Theyre all capped back up. I dont fondle them or anything. Just curious how big itll be years later.

>>6509183
because it was

>>6509595
Lol straight

>>6512883
Why is your hand black but your stomach pale

>>6513899
this

most yuri is marketed at straight guys anyway

>>6509595
maybe you are ftm and agp also ?

>>6513911
The logic behind straight guys liking yuri is that if one cute anime girl is good, two of them is EVEN BETTER

I like yaoi between beefy bara guys even though I'm tiny and effeminate and can't project myself into them well but I still like it since I wanna be the patty in a muscular man hamburger

>>6513392
>>6513557
Who else
>>6513910
It's shadowed by my table. I also have a pretty sick farmers tan going on but mostly shadow.

>>6514060

No I mean POST BOOT ON HEAD

I know who you are, I wanna see that booty. Also get into the FtM Skype chat.

>>6514090
We have a Skype chat?

>>6514136
Did you ever read the OP?

>>6513707

i don't remember what we were talking about... i'm drunk, high, and got distracted playing in a river... but whatever it is, i feel like that probably doesn't make it better...

>>6514090
Just picture the last time I did it. I'm wearing flip flops now son.

Is the chat still incredibly boring, despite I never contributed anything worth a damn? I left like, more than a year ago because I really didn't have anything to contribute to a month long dragon age chat. My Skype is meatbicycles if I ever pop back on it but my internet connection is super shit but that's what you get in a glorified trailer park.

>>6511638
Expert anon, how do I take a face fucking? I really want to make my bf happy but my mouth is also small and gets tired, and I have a really sensitive gag reflex. Should I get one of those analgesic spray things for the back of my mouth?

>>6514136

We do, add duckduckfrog

>>6514500

Aiight man I'll add you then plop you in the chat

>6504332
Went to hormone appointment today after only sleeping 4.5 hrs so I was like a walking daydream wearing mirror circle glasses because I looked like utter hell. The doctor was this cool pagan woman whose office was filled with shrines, bamboo and forest posters... it was surreal... they stole a lot of my blood. They filled like 16 vials.
Still can't believe it worked out despite the fact that my explanations were so terribly articulated, she kept making statements and I wasn't sure if they were questions or not so I just stared at her for most of it. Still can't believe it worked out. It ended up being informed consent and all of my shit is covered by medicaid. (I live in CT) Starting T in 2 weeks!?!!

>>6514296
>i'm drunk, high, and got distracted playing in a river
This sounds so fun.

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>tfw mtf
>tfw no ftm bf

seriously you guys are the best
like 3 of my best friends are ftms and each one of them is far and away a decent human being which is more than i can say for most cis guys

i just wanna say you guys are great!! please don't give up!! also please remember to lift because hunky arms are perfect

you're all qts and you're all gonna make it ok?

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>>6514844
>tfw ftm
>tfw no mtf gf

My neighbor feeds more than 50 feral cats at her farm. She keeps some of the kittens as pets or gives them away. She has one thats outside with a collar on thats not only starving to death but is covered in tumors, or some kind of lumps. Really sweet cat.

Every winter cats over there die. Theyre constantly breeding. Theres always dead and dying cats and kittens.

Can i get the cops on her for this? I dont really know what they could do. But its just fucked up. I just want to stop her. Let the ferals thin out and make her stop keeping the friendly ones that she collars up and neglects.

>>6514296
You think my needle collection is gross, but i like it

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>>6514619

it was yeah, then my s/o's boss (the guy who's renting us the room) made a really good dinner i wasn't allergic to, and told us stories about him hitch hiking on freight trains and shit, i'm actually really glad i got kicked out desu... this has been better than the situation i was in, regardless of how it turns out i needed the break in monotony

he's away a lot too so that's nice... pic sorta related it's the spot we smoked

i've actually never been in a river before today, but i was drunk and figured rivers are clean enough cuz running water... it's the delaware actually, the other side is jersey

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>>6514930

oh... ok, yeah that is pretty nasty, but my s/o kept a dead squirrel in a jar for years so eh...

pic unrelated, gypsy outside the cafe my s/o took me for lunch (technically she was taken out to lunch to i guess, she had apple slices from there) earlier

>>6514999

too* my bad...

>>6514999
Want to see the needles?

Gypsy is too pretty.

>>6514920
dude most definitely animal control
at the very least they'll spay/neuter and release which will help prevent them from repopulating

>>6515103
We've tried animal control, so have other neighbors i heard. She just tells them she is slowly getting them all fixed, which isnt true. She got some fixed (they get their eartip cut off), but she stopped. And more and more kittens are popping out.

>>6515224
Stop shilling, Shill

>>6514920
You just posted this in /an/.

Call shelters, cat rescues, spay and neuter places, etc even if they aren't in your town. If someone doesn't help, fucking trap and shoot them. Finding homes for kittens and 'pet' suitable adults is fine but I doubt you're going to spend any money whether or not you'd get a discount.

Feral cats ain't a pretty situation. Spay and neuter the ones you can find homes for, shoot the rest.
>>6515103
Hardly helps at all. My old neighbor was like that too. She did manage to get some of her cats on her property spayed and neutered, but more just kept coming. You have to be absolutely consistent with it. It's a never ending cycling because just one queen can pop out a large litter, cats will travel well off the property to fuck and you're back to square one.

Animals are a fucking joke here. Everyone is happy to see all the cute lil kittens and puppies but freak the fuck when they can't accept there is just too many. But we at least have some laws and protections for them, so I guess that's something.

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This article bros...
>http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2015/07/23/op-ed-trans-men-experience-far-more-violence-most-people-assume

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>>6515646
>tfw angry black man yells "transsexual" at you in manhattan on the 4th of july
I'm terrified of getting slashed.

>>6514864
I'll be your mtf gf!

>>6515646
>stupidly look at comments
>yup, mtfs shouting off because the spotlight isn't on them and attacking everyone in sight
You know, it must be exhausting carrying around that much radfem victim-complex that you HAVE to spout off oppression olympics and silence a whole group from even having a discussion about maybe having a discussion... Isn't that a form of abuse? Like what narcissistic personality disorder people do?

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When did you start transitioning?

When did you start browsing 4chin?

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>>6515774
>When did you start transitioning?
Starting T the 22ed

>When did you start browsing 4chin?
I was in the 6th grade, my best friend's older brother was a metalfag on /mu/ and would make us listen to Aeroplane over and over again. He told us never to go on /b/, so we went om /b/ and posted pictures of ourselves asking people what they wanted to do to us (my friends idea)
The funny thing is, we came across a meme for reverse traps and that was the moment I realized I was trans.

>tfw 4chan is effectively why you realized you're trans

>>6515890
>cuz you the forst pussy theyve seen in a loooooooong time

except for you know,
all the women in the military
you talk like a nigger also btw

>>6515774
Detransitioned at 8-9, retransitioned at 23-24
Found 4chan as a horny teenager
Currently 26

>>6514973
That's a beautiful guitar. Glad to see you're doing relatively okay bro.

>>6515774
Sixth grade, experimented with female presentation mid-20s, dismissed it couple years later, found peace with my sex vs gender, transitioned with hormones, changing name and getting surgery next year.

First time going on 4chan was probably six years ago.

>>6514565
practice ignoring your gag reflex by getting your toothbrush further and further to the back of your throat when you brush your teeth. this will take time to do, but it better in the long run than using sprays.

also have a no-word signal for when you need a break.

I'm thinking about just getting some testogel online, since it's harder to fuck up than injections and it's out of my system faster if it's not working out.

It will make it easier to get a prescription, too. Horrible idea?

>>6516510
i've heard that gel is very very expensive

>>6516524
This would be temporary anyway. But I just checked, and it seems that gel is so unpopular that the steroid vendors don't even have it.

Is this true? >>6516609

>>6516614
Not really

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>If only your father had a son, anon
>He would have had someone to take over
>Someone who could continue the family name and the business
>Instead he has you
How the fuck do I respond to that

Leave, and tell them to never speak to you again.

>>6516261

thanks, i actually got it for free... some guy in the building my dad works asked him if he knew anyone who played and gave it to him cuz he was moving or some shit... i gotta get it new bridge pins though, the a string one is fucked to a point where i can't restring it without getting them first but that's unnecessary for a bit anyway

yeah getting kicked out has actually been pretty great honestly... this place is nice it's the outskirts of town by the river which is an amazing smoke spot, there's a ton of wild grapes and wineberries growing all over the place behind the house... and i can walk to places that resemble civilization so that's nice + the birds love it, and the guy is cool he's an old hippie the room we're renting was originally his weed room which i thought was kinda fitting...

and i've also managed to accept that i'm just always gonna feel sick, tired, and be in pain... cuz i mean, i'm healthy otherwise according to all those blood tests... like incurable illness and such aside i'm in pretty good shape, so i feel like that gives me the freedom to ignore things like pain and do shit anyway... i've gotten fairly used to being in constant pain at least, but hopefully talking to the doctor next week will help with that... the only thing that sucks is like sometimes things lock up or my balance is a bit fucked so whether or not i'm drunk i sometimes end up walking like it lol and the vision issues are a little scary... and well i gotta sit to brush my teeth and such sometimes etc... but it's whatever really, can't do shit about it other than ignore it so that's what i'm doing...

but yeah... getting kicked out has honestly been really nice, it just kinda created an opportunity to be in a better position so i'm pretty happy about that

>>6517149

well that last paragraph was completely unnecessary... my bad, i forget what i say after i've said it + i have a hangover...

>>6516614
i never did
my buddy 6 years on t never did

>>6516524
Really? Shit. I panic at needles, no matter how small they are or how little it hurts. Can't breathe, vomiting, shaking, blacking out... It's bad. I was really hoping the gel would be a viable option.

>>6515774
Starting browsing 4chan at 13 I think?

Came out to family at 13, went been into the closet due to shame and fear. Realized denial doesn't work and just now started T at 20.

>>6517354
There are patches, too.

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>>6515774
>When did you start transitioning?
Came out first year of middle school (6th grade i think)
just turned 19 and plan to start t in the next year or sum

>When did you start browsing 4chin?
after i dropped out of high school a few years ago, maybe 3 years ago.
btw i'm amazed how much of my life its eaten away, it seems like i dropped out just yesterday, when really i've been sitting in the same chair for 3 whole years, just scrolling
i feel bad for some of you who have been here 5-10+ years

>>6516962
Who said that?

>>6516962
If my parents are anything to go by, any reasonable, measured response would make them chimp out and overreact, call you rude and ungrateful

fuck em

>>6514844
Thanks. I got "darling" twice today and "dear" another, and even "young lady". Needed to hear that.

>>6517869
Yeah, fuck em.

>>6517827
I'm starting T next year too.

>>6515774
I was "crossdressing" and passing as young as 12, worked on my voice meanwhile, didn't know what "trans" meant at the time. I don't know if that counts -- I only recently started questioning/bought a binder.

Any guys here been binding for a long time? Have you experienced any rib issues? Like pain or shifting?

I'm 21 and I've been binding since I was 17. I'm so sick of it. I'm looking into top surgery, hopefully I'll get it in the next year.

Is anyone else here sick of characters like Naoto or Pidge from Voltron

>>6518117

nah... on the rare occasion i do play a video game it's fps, survival horror or a puzzle game and i don't watch anime so i never see those characters to get sick of them...

>>6518117
It's funny because pidge is an og boy toy

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>>6518117
>Naoto
This one?

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>Weeaboos
>on my FtMg

>>6518089
I get more shortness of breath every few months.

>>6515774
3 years ago, been browsing for 7

>>6516962
Say "yeah thats too bad"

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>>6518201
I'm a straight white male and I need anime "boys" to live.

>>6517846
Best friend of my late mom

>>6517869
Thanks

>>6518252
That was my comeback, actually. DIdn't feel like much :(

>>6518165
Yes

>>6518504
>faggots
>geygen

Sounds like their in the right place desu

>>6516962
Fuck... Sorry that you have to deal with a cunt like that. Just hold your head high and ignore them. I don't know you personally but I'm sure your dad will accept you as his son, just stay positive.

Is there any need for estrogen management for FtMs? Or any other potential side effects of self-med?

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/ai

>>6518554
Bro. Chill. These guys aren't doing anything wrong and you're making yourself look like some sort of autist coming over here ranting like this. Grow up.

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>>6518554

>>6518554
>safe zone
go back to tumblr

>>6518583
Well I've never gone into gaygen before, but if you really want me to I can try it out :D

>>6515753
>I haven't heard of a transman being killed since that one they made a movie about, this proves that they're all still alive!
>Uh, what about this one killed quite recently?
>Yeah, but I didn't even HEAR about that so it's like it didn't happen! The media not even caring about transmen being killed just PROVES that transwomen have it harder!

>>6518539
don't take too much or the body will convert it back into estrogen

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>>6518601
Don't feed it, m8

>>6518621
When is season 2?

>>6518611
Thanks. How much is enough for tranny level? All my sources are for bodybuilders :/

>>6518649
Will start mid July :)

>>6518666
Post colombian booty you slut

>>6518666
Psst... I'm in your thread right now :DDD

>>6518661
Amazing. That and preacher are the only reasons I still have prime

>>6518652
Well even that is better than nothing.
I've no experience in self-medding I'm afraid. All I could advise is that you try follow their instructions to whatever is best for you, and keep getting bloodwork done. keep an eye on e and t levels and then up dosage accordingly. But adjust it gradually don't go mad

>/ftmg/ is overrun with tripfags
>mtfs can't even let us have ONE place without having their drama and attention whoring
Guests with no manners...

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>>6512140
Pic related is what I use for subQ

>>6518748
Q~Q sorry anon. If I helps I'm normally here trying to cheer people up

>>6518748
And I very rarely post. If I do it's never MtF related, just general chat.

>>6518724
Thanks :)

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So my boyfriend wants to become a camboy because the two of us are broke, but says he only wants to do it with my grace. But I can't stomach the idea at all because it just cements my worries that I'm not enough for him. I know if I say yes to the idea I'm just going to get jealous. I don't know what to do, I'm hurt that he even suggested it.

>>6518652
You want to ease into it for a start. Puberty moves fast for cis boys, but not 0 to 100 in a day. We're largely latecomers so we want to be all the more careful, our main consideration being voice development.

I'm on mobile with 2% battery, but search: constansis (sic) voice ftm

art of manliness normal testosterone

Those links should get you started.
Just in case you'd think to, don't just copy some stranger's dosages, individual responses to r same amount of T vary enormously. Blood tests will sort you.

>>6518817
you'd best find a job.

>>6518819
To be clear, "get you started" in the sense of you'll know what to look for next. It's not enough to begin self-medding, I can't advocate that

>>6518825
We're both trying, have sent out upwards of 20 applications but haven't gotten any calls back

>>6518817

i don't see what him doing that for money would have to do with you... or what there is to be jealous of... i mean, they're clients it's not like he's doing it for free... and even then it's not like he's actually fucking them or anything, i can't even kinda see how that's an issue desu... let alone why you'd be hurt that he's considering doing something like that for money and asked you first cuz he values your opinions...

it sounds like you're way too insecure...

btw that "enough" shit is always ridiculous, if you weren't he wouldn't be there... and honestly sex with other people, or flirting (for free even not just as a job which is totally different in the first place) doesn't mean that the person you're with doesn't love or want you or that you aren't "enough" no one can be someone's everything if that's what you see being "enough" as...

but seriously... a job is a job and if you're broke to a point where he's considering it maybe it's necessary...

>>6518652
Bodybuilder doses are too high, at least that's what I remember from researching. Someone who is on T should be able to tell you what their dose is, though.

There's also a ftm guy on /r/PEDs who used to selfmed, might be worth seeking him out.

>>6518583
plz no bully '_>'

>>6518869
desu

>>6518886

i hate that filter...

>>6518869
I guess we'll make Brooklyn our king

>>6518893
>implying he hasn't always been the Merlin of /ftmg/

>>6518903
but then who is king???

>>6518998
r u the one secretly shitposting pictures of faye?

>>6519030
why?
are you scared that too much exposure will force you to transition?

>>6519046
Well, I thought that would be right up your street.
You love stirring up drama and pissing people off, I would have thought that mtfg would be prime hunting grounds for a shitposter of your calibre.

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>tfw missed a rare moment of drama

Any of you guys wanna fill me in? And then you can tell me what happened here.

>>6518982
It's me

>>6519410
congratulations man

I was looking about but there really is no way to remove the vaginal canal completely and sew that area up completely.....

I did find this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPi3uA4-r_U

pretty cool ngl when they started shredding (morselization) the uterus it looks like cabbage

that is a hysterectomy video from start to finish but the part im talking about is 21:41.

I like surgery videos but I'm kind of upset over bottom surgery where they just stick a penis above the flaps and but even metoidioplasty doesn't get rid of the canal

>>6519574
why do you care so much about the damn vaginal canal

>>6519719

Who's army?

>>6519574
In my country get meto or phallo you have to first remove the vaginal canal, uterus and ovaries. They wont do any srs if you havent removed those first because they "dont want to give you 2 set of genitals"

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>>6518893

that reminds me... i thought this shit was funny, every key in the house has this keychain... the guy is from brooklyn too, but yeah...

>>6518903

you know i've never read any king arthur shit except this one poem about lancelot and guinevere my ex gave me cuz when we first got together she was engaged and shit... and well i've seen monty python and the holy grail, but that doesn't count...

>>6518982

someone who wants what's probably a really awful to have title... idk... i bet being a king sucks...

>>6518758
>>6518769
And why can't you take off your trips in this general?
In fact there's no need to trip in the first place because you contribute nothing positive

>>6520084
This.

>>6519945
The Merlin is the wise adviser who floats in and out of time. Also, wizard weed.

>>6520347

wish i had weed right now, just have a clip and i'm drunk on a swing waiting to see if i can get... it's not far from where i was but i may as well be in another world kinda... not gated community to gated community type shit

>>6518817
How far along are you in transition?
My boyfriend is also a cam model and wants me to get into it, but I haven't started T yet. He makes a lot of money doing it and people tell him that they would tip him much more if he had any partner, even an ugly one. I'm fine with him finding someone else to fuck, but he doesn't trust anyone else.
Too bad, I have some really feminine bones, trying to gain muscle but gains are slow. I know watching the tapes would make me feel dysphoric, but I suppose I don't really have to watch em I suppose.
If you can do it and not trigger yourself too badly I would go for it. Ftm cammers are pretty rare, i'm going for it as soon as I possibly can. Even if it's just strap on shit.

>>6520560
Is there actually an audience for ftms who don't look pre-T/femboy?

>>6517149
That's great man, I'm glad shits working out for you.

When did you start going to the doctors? Sorry if you mentioned it in a previous thread, I only lurk here on and off.

Also it wasn't unnecessary, reading your post was comfy as fuck

>>6520729

i got insurance not that long ago, so... maybe a little over 2 weeks... i got kicked out a week ago, and i found out my test results a week before that...

the blood test was crazy... the woman drawing blood idk she moved the needle and my arm went numb and weird and then i almost passed out... took forever for my blood pressure to come back to something normal (it dropped really low) and then they tried the other arm twice before they got enough blood (19 tests) i had a huge bruise that just finished healing and couldn't bend my arm and shit on the side that got weird though...

but yeah i found out that the lyme is out of my system, but that having had it and treating (cuz of the harsh antibiotics and it fucking my immune system... this is what the doctor thinks anyway given the timeline) it left me with chronic epstein barr, chronic fatigue, neuropathy and i have to find out about fibro... it all feels about the same as having lyme did so i didn't notice entirely, but yeah... she told me that i'm doing everything right (diet and exercise) and that i just gotta keep doing it and hope for thr best... but that's it, this is just what i'm gonna feel like, all the shit the past few years is just permanent pretty much

+ well... the way it's all affecting me is... the likely worst case scenario given my symptoms and issues is that i'll develop ms, i already have most of the symptoms but not... quite like that... it can mimic it, but yeah... that's the strong worst case scenario possibility...

the doctor seemed pretty positive, but a friend of mine talks to me like i'm doomed cuz another friend if hers has everything i have, and it's manifested the same way for her and well... it's looking like ms at this point...

i have digestive issues too, but 90% of my pain is nerves malfunctioning and the meds for the digestive issues work well cuz that's how i realized it was barely an issue in comparison...

>>6521177

the* my bad... it's alright though, i was upset about the news for like a day, but i mean... there's nothing i can do other than live with it so it's a waste getting all worked up about it instead of living

>>6511510
Tell your recruiter, if you don't you're lying. The military absolutely hates dishonest people.

Be prepared to hated heavily: by women, men, your drill sergeant, everyone. And if you can't handle using the female bathroom, don't bother. You are also going to go through with all of your physical examinations.

When you transition, for the love of God, do it quietly. Do it out of your own pocket. Yes, it's covered by Tricare, but it's very difficult to do it that way. Otherwise, you'll attract attention toward yourself and worked unnecessarily harder.

Lastly, don't be stupid. Do as you're told. Don't fight anything, especially anything trivial. You are not an individual. You are not a person. They are not going to put up with "personality".

Good luck, dude. You are actually going to need need it.

>>6521899
You go girl

>>6522050
I did that on purpose

>>6522097
Ok princess

>>6522097
Or else what

>>6522120
> Im a prince look at my frog.

Me too Anon, me too :-/

>>6522120
Mighty big frog you got there, princeling

>>6522120
Bost those dainty princess arms.

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>>6522193

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>>6522224
k

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>>6522268
I'll put my stick in you any time I want

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>>6522301
You look like a cuddlebunny though

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>>6522384
Lol fatty

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>>6522455
Yes you are

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>>6522512
Post rhino butt or be forever a bunnyslutt

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>>6522542
Here you go. Three months on T.

>>6522193
Scrawny? Troll detected.

>>6522589
shouldn't you be in mtfg, chasing mtf's?

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>>6522589
Are you mocking my size? I'll have you know I can be very dangerous.

>>6522589
>threads dead
It's a pity.

>>6522599
>size
don't worry,
maki isn't packing down there either

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>>6522605
lel

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>>6522621
>the completely honest man
I did post a pic though. Here, have another. Pre-T this time.

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>>6522652
Thnx hunny

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>>6522672
Sleep tight, bunny

>draw a dumb rocky horror based picture
>"anyone who draws rocky horror is a TRANSPHOBE because rocky horror is TRANSPHOBIC and they want all trans people to DIE and be MURDERED"

well buddy i have a surprise for you

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>>6522694
Next time, spank them

>>6522694

rocky horror sucks... it's just over-rated, boring, campy garbage with shit music...

>>6522893
thats what makes it fun though

>>6522896

nah, it doesn't... i'm not one of those people who tends to enjoy something shitty cuz it's shitty; i also generally really hate musicals...

Any thoughts on >>6503925 ?
I couldn't think of any positives myself. And a lot of the so-called pros in that thread are either flat-out retarded, or just subjective crap such as not having a male upbringing = not "afraid" to show emotions, not like those other men etc.

>>6515646
>>6515753
>READER COMMENTS (0)
Hmmmm

>>6519574
what are you talking about? it's called a vaginectomy and it is a very common part of phalloplasty. phallo isn't just sticking a penis above the flaps... have you done any research at all bro

>>6520602
i mean there are ftm post-transition porn stars who i imagine would make money camming if they wanted to
google viktor belmont

>>6515646
>http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2015/07/23/op-ed-trans-men-experience-far-more-violence-most-people-assume

Lol, trans men experience far more violence than people assume? Who are these "people" that did the assuming? Christian and Muslim mens rights activists that are constantly pulling shit out of their ass? Every time I saw some article saying that trans men don't experience violence I knew they were full of shit, was I the only one that knew?

It's simple. When some twat says "discrimination is over!" stop listening. You know they're not telling the truth, right?

Thinkin about shit while havin a smoke earlier and was thinkin about how I consider myself pretty blessed to be asexual and have made peace with the fact romantic relationships aren't really for me.

like it's pretty shit being trans, but I don't have to deal with nearly the same amount of complications and anxieties as people who are trans and ontop of that having to deal with extra shit like sexual / romantic relationships while being trans ('cause that shit ain't easy from experiences).

it's kinda comforting knowing that.

>>6523345
*my own experiences

>>6523345

that's good for you i suppose... though sex and relationships aren't issues for me, and in my experience people have been really understanding and unphased by that sorta shit... i've even had gay guys and straight chicks who have been interested, respectful, and haven't given a shit about me being trans or anything just understanding and totally cool with it... like it's just not an issue in that area of my life

being trans sucks, but i've been lucky with that i guess, for whatever reason... idk, honestly... it's been so easy for me i find it hard to really grasp how it could be particularly hard for some people

>>6523366
>>6523345

+ in my experience being trans seems like it's a bigger deal to me than it is to other people...

I'm pretty small to begin with. Will growing pecs make my chest look more masculine (want) or just larger (do not want)?

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>>6523553

Hi Duck!

>>6523589
Hey fuckface.

Were you going to contribute something useful?

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>>6523594

I have great advice, Smithers. Come here and I'll share it with you.

>>6522967
If you don't see comments you must have a blocker sniping them.

>>6523860
Pls come back to us, we'll give you attention.

Pls no bully

I'm a gay cis guy, i was /femgen/ for a while and i took hormones for a long time (for aesthetic purposes). Now i have a boyfriend and he doesnt really seem to respect me. I dont mind that he's more cocky or dominant or even that he's obviously more masculine, but i dont get the mutual respect feeling that i should have with other men.

So i'm here literally just to ask how you guys go about getting respected as men instead of being pandered or mocked and people treating you like a lesser person. I figure some of you had experience with the struggle and might be able to give some advice.

>>6524441
Go be an annoying attention whore somewhere else you degenerate malefail

>>6524441
Try to remain collected and calm no matter what. If you let his behavior shake you or trigger you then you've already lost. Wittyness helps, but don't make jokes on your own expense.
....and don't be a flamer. No one respects a flaming faggot.

Random advice anon here

Something I noticed when I meet most ftm guys is they try to act macho. They do it way too much and it becomes annoying.

Even when a CIS guy acts macho it is cringeworthy. Remember nobody likes people from Jersey Shore for a reason.

Yo ftms what do you think of this? http://destroyyourbinder.tumblr.com/post/146983413095/transition-as-self-harm

>>6524441

idk... that's not an issue i have or can relate to and i don't do anything to actively avoid it, but if people treat you like shit, why would you just take it and continue to be around them? why not find people who respect you to be around instead of putting yourself in that position? cuz like... in all honesty, if you're just taking that kinda shit from people and letting them treat you like that you're earning it, and you're giving them more fuel to treat you like someone less than them to be mocked

cuz the thing is if someone allows themselves to be treated like shit and less than other people they might as well just say they are those things... and that's really got fuckall to do with you being masculine or feminine , cuz i mean... i'm really not the most masculine transguy ever, and well yeah... don't feel like i gotta prove myself to people to not be mocked and shit... that's all just you and how you carry yourself and shit probably

>>6524579
>Yo
see >>6524534

>>6524619

eh, you're just nitpicking... i say "yo" too... that's not even a masculine or feminine thing, at least not in brooklyn anyway...

I need to shave my body hair but the trimmer I have at the moment is not very good.

Anyone have recommendations for a good body hair trimmer? any to avoid?

>>6524655
>Shaving
Why? Literally why? I would kill for werewolf mode. All I get is downy fur. I look like a goodamn hamster.

>>6524677

personal preference

>>6524709
shill pls

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Glad I didn't go out Pokemon hunting in my binder today. It's humid as shit.

>>6524579
So she wasn't trans. As long as she doesn't preach her experience as the absolute truth for all ftms, she brings up some interesting points that could go some ways to explain the transtrending escapist mentality and appropriation phenomenon.

>>6524737
I need to buy an sp card to hold memory. I can't even get my love live game on here.

>>6524579
It sounds like she's the typical self-harm attention-seeking female desu.

>transitions to "self harm"
>detransitions for attention

>>6524579
That sounds way too familiar for comfort.

After looking a bit further than that post, she seems to have dysphoria about her boobs. I'm not sure if she's not trans or just not transitioning.

>>6524579
Binders do suck. Sexism is real. Now give me my [$37,210] and I'll be good and stop self-harming right away.

I don't care about performing maleness. 7 years of binding and I never did. However, looking like a guy + having obvious breasts will get me fucked up. I just want my comfy T and these tits out of my face.

The blog makes me kinda mad because it reminds me how my mom accused me of just being ingrained with sexism and how she only got more insistent that I was basically murdering some imagined girl by transitioning. RIP in peace, girl.

Anyway, good for that person that she figured her shit out. Maybe it'll help someone else. However, I think it will do just as much harm. She appears like she's kinda-sorta trying not to be explicit about it, but she is framing it like ftm transition is The Wrong Choice. Which it would be, for her. But when your audience is an assortment of uncertain, insecure afabs you know nothing about, talking like transitioning is a betrayal of womanhood and always a response to sexism - how the fuck will that bring clarity to those scared, dysphoric teens?

Fuck her evangelism.

>>6524534
Guys like that will get over their compensatory phase. Most of them, anyway. Some just grow a scraggly beard to match.
Also "cis" is not an acronym, it's just another word.

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>>6524737
;-;

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>>6524579
"Some days, I imagine my breasts as so revolting that they must be boils full of pus, or full of rotting skin and maggots. I have intrusive thoughts about removing them myself, and these feelings have even gone so far as to make me obsessively study breast anatomy in detail"

She sounds like a very well adjusted individual :^) Thank you for posting this link, sometimes it's good to remember that even though it sucks being transgender, there's worse things that could happen, like being absolutey insane like her.

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>>6518263
I love Naoto! Best girl

>>6524579
Overall TL;DR but I skimmed. She sounds crazy and neurotic. Another feminist blaming patriarchy/sexism for her personal failings.

>>6524579

well... i think she has a lot of feelings about like politics and misogyny and whatnot that she's translated to her body... i imagine she's done what's right for her at this point in time, but i can honestly say based on the shit i read that i just can't at all relate or grasp the mindset... they're thoughts i haven't had

i see nothing wrong with her sharing her personal experience, or encouraging people who have a similar mindset to re-evaluate whether or not they're trans or just have weirdly strong feelings about what women are/what being one means and shit... at the same time it seems as if she sees all transpeople as having similar thoughts and feelings to her own (unsurprising since she's autistic) and disregards that for someone who's trans there are a lot of very different thoughts and feelings there...

overall though she needs someone to edit that shit heavy, and it's a little hard to read with some well written lines here and there + can't really have too much of an opinion over something that's ultimately one person's perspective and experience of life and learning about themselves... that's like not something you can agree or disagree with or judge too harshly...

>>6525002

idk i read that and it seemed more like a distaste for the social shit that comes with like being a chick or whatever... and her tits bothered her as a result of that... the descriptions were fairly dramatic, but she seems very emotional and dramatic in a lot of ways just based on the writing... so eh with that, hard to take people that dramatic particularly seriously about the extent of their feelings, maybe i'm just an asshole but yeah...

>>6524441
Sounds like your problem is less getting general respect from men and more your boyfriend not respecting you

Might need to have a chat with him about that

>>6524441
Don't you find it revolting to date someone who doesn't respect you? Isn't it a revolting thought to date someone you couldn't respect? Your situation doesn't bode well, familia. Especially since you seem to think it's on you to earn his respect. My educated guess is that you're on the hook essentially, and that he's some degree of emotionally abusive.

To answer your question, I don't do anything special to get respect I just expect it and act accordingly.

Your boyfriend sounds like a waste of your time on this green earth.

>pretty sure I have ADD
>hoping that T will at least change the symptoms so I have more energy
>get even fucking spacier and harder to stay on track
WELP good thing I'm gonna finally go see a goddamn professional about this shit.

>>6526642
Get the good stuff, use half, sell the other half for a good profit

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>>6525233
>best girl
>not mitsuru
bad taste fäg

>>6526756
I finally know people who have at least -dealt- drugs, but I dunno man, if this shit makes me capable of focus I'd rather hit that sweet sweet single track brainmode more often.

On the other hand, my insurance won't pay for my fucking blood panels, SO. Guess I'll think about it.

>>6518817
I'd love to do this myself but I've no idea where to get started, like what sites even have that.

>>6506818
>tfw can't even socially transition in fear of disappointing my mother
i came out to her about 2 years ago but she just got mad and made me take it back.

is it possible for me to repress and life a happy life as female? i only ever think about my gender when i'm in public or being social so i think if i isolate myself and pick up some new hobbies i'll be good.

is it possible? do you know anyone who ignored trans feelings until they went away? mine started a little bit before puberty and look like your average pre-t ftm.

>>6526971
>so i think if i isolate myself and pick up some new hobbies i'll be good.
Yeah no. Social isolation escalates and kills. If you take my word for it, go on /r9k/ for proof.
>i only ever think about my gender when i'm in public or being social
This will be most of your life

Only you can decide what's best for yoru situation but srsly you sound like me from years ago. There's a reason a lot of transguys transition late, and that kind of nonsense reasoning is part of it. How old are you?

>>6526642
out of curiosity what makes you think you have ADD? i've been wondering lately if i have it but idk

>>6527103
Apparently in AFAB people ADD manifests a lot more quietly? Chief signs being shit like executive dysfunction and a lack of focus, being withdrawn. I've had difficulties doing basic shit since fucking fourth grade, despite the fact I tested really well on pretty much everything. I'm roughly functional now, but it was a long goddamn road and I still have trouble with it. If taking a pill means it's even a little bit easier for me to fucking sit my ass down and focus, I'm game to try.

Usually I need to shove music in my ears to stay on task, or sometimes I count. Feels kind of like making sure my brain is low-key occupied enough that maybe it doesn't get distracted with another tangent. Being at work, I get shit done, because it's at least something physical with my hands and I fucking need to get paid, but everything else can be touch and go.

Also after I spent years agonizing on whether or not I was depressed, I spent about ten minutes in a psychiatrist's office trying to get this ADD shit fixed before she declared I had to fix the depression before they could even tell. So really it's more like trying to get back to the theoretical root of the problem.

>>6526971
>is it possible? do you know anyone who ignored trans feelings until they went away?

Unless you're still a teenager, chances are that they'll never go away. If they're mild enough that you can live with them without transitioning, that's one thing, but don't expect them to just disappear.

>>6524745
Unfortunatly others will point to people like her as proof of FTMs being self hating females because muh sexism.

>>6524948
Ouch. This could explain some transtrenders.

>>6525018
Not sure if your mom read terf blogs or anti-ftm stuff. Her attitiude will become more common since there is anti-ftm sites preaching a similiar point of view.

>>6525170
Isn't this common amongst ftms? Viewing breasts as chest tumors etc.?

>>6525319
Thats the angle I get from detranstioned ftms and terfs. Histrionic women who blame patriarchy/sexism for everything and then think "I will wreck my body or be an ugly selfish confrontational bitch to make me worthless to patriarchy! That'll show em!"

>>6525521

This is why I'd wanted to get some ftm feedback on this, because I'd imagine that alot of women have such feelings. So I was wondering if her experiences apply to most ftms. From reading the responses I'm suprised to see not really. Oh and its funny about her being autistic. Another anti-ftm meme is that ftms are often autistic and are horribly confused/traumatized by being female.

>>6526971

i haven't been able to do anything to treat it, and i've known for as long as i can remember, obviously i didn't have the words and understanding i do now, but it's been a thing since very early childhood...

honestly it doesn't go away and gets worse in a lot of ways the more time you let pass... at least that's how its been for me, and i did actually try to hang myself once with being trans being a huge component of it (the rest is a long story, but that's most stories i suppose...) like probably about 75% of the reason... i mean, you can learn to live with it sure, but it's not exactly a particularly pleasant existence being in a constant state of discomfort...

though in my case it's as bad when i'm alone as it is when i'm in public and if anything being social i can forget cuz my main way of being around people involves drugs and alcohol and that + company is fairly distracting... so i suppose in that sense it can be worse when i'm by myself

all that being said though, you can't live your life around making someone else happy... being uncomfortable and unhappy in your own skin and allowing someone else to dictate who you are and what you can do with your own body is no way to live...

and why live in fear of disappointing someone who couldn't even try to accept you for who you are, got mad over you being yourself and made you take back something deeply personal and out of your control and repress it to please her? i mean seriously, i imagine she disappointed you right then... i'm sure she's disappointed you plenty of times, and i'm sure some of those times it wasn't just some shit she has zero control over... why do you care so much about her feelings over your own when she's not even the kinda person who puts any effort into accepting you as a person or learning about your issue which is literally just part of who you are as a person?

>>6526971
>>6528012

+ your body is the only thing you'll ever really own, and it's the only place you ever actually live... there's absolutely nothing wrong with being comfortable in your skin and doing everything you can to be happy with yourself... and your mother doesn't have to be you, she doesn't have to live your life or in your body... so she shouldn't get so much of a say in who you get to be and how you get to live

the last thing you should ever do is let someone else control you like that, especially cuz people who want to only care about themselves and their own feelings/interests never yours and as a result they never deserve to come first

just saying...

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Hey guys, Im gonna get my hair cut soon, and I was considering something like this. I'm still female presenting, is this gonna make me look like a lesbian? I figured that this was still feminine enough as to not come off as trying to be butch while also being masc enough to make me feel less shit about myself

>>6527947

yeah i've heard about the autism thing with transguys... i'm not personally, but i found it interesting that she was in the sense that it was very clear she didn't grasp that her twisted sense of self and being a woman wasn't this universal transguy thing... and i don't get all the sexism shit personally, i mean... when i'm viewed as a chick (and obviously i know what that's like) i get treated the same as i do when i'm viewed as a guy... and i love women and completely respect them and all that so i don't really grasp all the heavy sexism or differences cuz i tend to view people as people and haven't experienced anything like that...

about the other thing... the chest shit, i view my chest like it's wrong in the sense that it feels like it doesn't belong on my body... but i personally find the chest tumours, pus filled etc over dramatized view on that sorta thing to be kinda just... ridiculous, dramatic, and stupid really... it feels wrong, makes me very uncomfortable, and def the thing that bothers me the most... but i see it more like... if someone's got like a cleft lip or some shit and need corrective surgery... so like a deformity but without all the dramatic imagery...

>>6528044
If you have the same head shape I think you can pull it off just fine.

>>6528044
He's so dreamy.

Does anyone do "little" play? Usually people do little girl/Daddy play, but I don't want to be the "little girl". I'm not sure if I'd make a good "little boy" either. I really want to do some age play, like cuddle with dolls or something but the whole dynamic seems odd to work with being trans.

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>>6528265
I want to be daddy. Unfortunately I'm only 5'3 and look 12 so imagination is needed. If you can deal with that you may be my little boypet.

>>6528265
I would love to call a man daddy but being called little boy or actually having that weird pseudo-underage dynamic would freak me out, in a bad way. Pretty much a turn off.

>>6528465
What do you want to be called, anon?

>>6528526
>What do you want to be called, anon?
My name

>I know I'm a sick, twisted degenerate

>>6528851
You absolute madman

>>6529543
feel free to make a genuinely relevant post any time my man

Who else here live next to a PokéStopand have people loitering around all day and night?

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>>6531199
I live right next to a college campus. Git gud.

>>6531702
I like boys

>>6531702
>what does being gay even mean

We are men. Therefore, being gay implies that we like men.

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>>6531656
I live next door to a gym in an historical city full of artwork... Oh, and a university, but that's on the other side of town

>>6531984
is this a pasta

>>6531984
nice bait my man

>>6532146
>>6531984
>Dressing up as and calling yourself a man doesn't actually make you one any more than wearing a fur suit and calling yourself a dwagon-child otherkin makes you one of those.

So what makes you a man then? I'd say that sex and gender are different things, but that even sex can be changed even if it's just aesthetically IE the organs aren't there. The truth is that we CAN break the chains of our biology due to science and medicine, even if it's a privilege to do so, one that didn't exist years ago.

But here's the thing that trans denying and hating people don't seem to understand: Being trans isn't fun. It's not the same as an otherkin, it's not the same as a furry, for most it's motivated by gender dysphoria, a mental condition that causes EXTREME discomfort. Now, what would one do about such a condition? Until we find a pill that can magically cure being trans we transition. That's what we do.

>There is no "real" you "deep down"; whatever body and temperament you were born into, that's you, no more, no less.

Really? You're stuck in presocratic thought first off, second off do you really think temperaments don't change? Like when you're born, that's you and that's it? Think about that for just a moment.

>>6532130
I'm bisexual, not gay. And yes I'd date a transman, but I suppose that my opinion doesnt matter since I'm not 100% gay. For the record I don't expect someone who identifies as gay to date a transman, not to say that transmen arent real men, but i assume that most gay people would expect their partner to have a dick.

>>6530128
what causes a cis man to post anime pic?

>>6531984
>you like men, same as most females.
Oh hey, I'm actually dating a woman, but ok.

>>6532258

it has nothing to do with social norms though... i'd discuss your other points, but it's 5:30 and i got shit to do + haven't had coffee

you're just way off with that and don't seem to understand how being trans works... social shit has fuckall to do with it in many cases, you're taking some of what's said by a portion of transguys and making that into everyone...

>>6531984
> What irks me is that, rather than discard gender roles entirely, trans philosophy is one of "I don't like the norms that go with THIS body, but I like THOSE ones, so I'll just change my body and wear the norms I like better".

What makes you assume we haven't tried that? I stay away from female gender roles and femininity as much as humanly possible. Guys don't really see me as fuckable anymore, but it's completely worth it because constantly pretending that I'm a woman and faking femininity is worse.

I've done everything I can except changing my body. Why shouldn't I and what alternatives do I have?

> Side question: if you happen to be a "gay" FtM, how interested are you in dating a fellow FtM? He'll be just as much of a "real" man as one born that way, right? Food for thought, my avian friend.

I'm biscum but I would like that.

>>6532399
I'm probably older than you are.

Gender roles becoming less important? Horseshit. Half my friends have gotten married and/or had a kid and very much fall back to stereotypical gender roles. If they split into groups based on gender (people don't notiice but this happens all the time), they expect me to join the women. If I make friends with a guy, chances are he'll disappear once he's no longer single to avoid jealousy issues. If they're not single, I need to keep them at a distance for the same reason.

> androgynous he-she
What's so bad about that? The occasional stranger already gets confused, and I very much prefer that to being seen as female.

> None of us get to choose our bodies.
We shape and change them all the time, do you disapprove of tattoos, plastic surgery and bodybuilding, too?

And what's with all the prosthesis talk? If you need one, they're useful and make your life better.

>>6532374

without being given the context of those statements, i can't possibly judge whether or not you've misinterpreted some of them... judging by the rest of your post i can assume you probably did, and i did point out that some transpeople do say that and didn't make some "you're wrong no one says that" type statement... what i said was you're using the words of some transpeople to judge all of them, which is a terrible way to judge any group of people...

now your initial use of the word social was different than your new one, and really you're reaching here... what you've done is form a hypothesis that being trans cannot and does not occur in isolation and decided it has to be true (this is based solely on your ideas of what being trans is, it has no science backing it's all just opinions) with no actual evidence backing it up... you're just making noise at this point to make it, and using "facts" that aren't actual facts and have never been tested so they shouldn't be supplied as evidence to back up your claim... research suggests that it's a matter of brain wiring and mapping, which would imply that you're likely wrong however not much research has been done at this point so i'm sure there's no point i can make (however valid) that you'll accept... so really this is pointless...

>>6532374
>>6532493

+
i actually never said any of what you're claiming at this point, you're twisting my words to suit your needs without actually reading any of it, or grasping what i tried to convey... i said you were way off calling it dress up to fit social norms and so on, i was discussing your opinion not you as a person... there are people who aren't trans who are fully capable of understanding what being trans is, of course they don't understand the experience on an intimate level just like i have no idea what schizophrenia is like for someone who has it no matter how many books i read or who i talk to... i can make educated guesses and assumptions but there's different kinds of understanding and understanding things on an intellectual level is only one of them (you don't have this level of understanding btw, i'm mentioning it to illustrate a point) and it's valid and i respect it and wouldn't use those words...

i actually don't say i "feel like a boy deep down" so that wouldn't be a response i would give... i'm not sure what that even means really to "feel" like something, it's more just... i'm trans, i'm aware that being trans doesn't make me the equivalent of a cis person, if i was then i wouldn't be trans... i can't change that i'm trans, i imagine it's some kinda birth defect, but if treating it with medically approved treatment helps me live a happy life in spite of it then it shouldn't be on someone else to make it their business to talk down to me for it... we all have shit wrong with us, you for example are the sort of person who thinks you can use a bunch of poorly thought out opinions as facts and talk people out of being something they can't control... whereas me? i'm trans...

What are the odds this is a failed mtf like 99% of the guys who come in here and tell us we shouldn't destroy our beautiful female bodies and trans doesn't real

>>6531984
just fyi
the handsome husband is a comic that makes fun of mtfs, not ftms.
Have a pleasant day :)

>>6532520
i'm 99% sure it's that repressed mtf who was here the other day arguing that we need to 'consider the long term effects'.
Just ignore them.

>>6532374
You underestimate how much trans people over-simplify the feeling of dysphoria when explaining it to cis people. Yes, we do feel a strong degree of social dysphoria, because in a social sphere that's where people call most attention to our gender. the constant aggravation of being gendered female wears down on someone who already feels shit about having a female body.
We talk about social dysphoria a lot because it's the easiest to explain, explaining body dysphoria to someone who has never experienced is often futile and takes a long time. Hence shit like "born in the wrong body," its technically correct, but wholly inadequate.
>It is amazing how frequently these conversations bring up people with this insufferable attitude of "well, you're not trans so you just don't get it" as if "trans" is a real thing beyond a nice neat label for sexual-social dissatisfaction (a universal human experience) along anatomical lines.
But you obviously don't get it. In the same way I can't possibly understand what it feels like to have schizophrenia. Sure, people can explain it to me, but I can't truly grasp what everyday life is like living with schizophrenia. I could go into detail about how I feel towards my body, but the effort would obviously be wasted.

>>6532513
> People you interact with are responding to a thousand different things besides the fact that you're female, whether meeting you for the first time or otherwise

These thousands of different things are always in the context of a man or a woman having them, and interpreted very differently depending on which gender is displaying them.

If you think that ANYONE reacts the same way to a man or a woman if they wear a skirt, shave their heads, have a stereotypical male job (or even not doing anything strongly associated with one gender), you're either blind or fooling yourself. It's far too deeply ingrained and established in the way we interact with each other.

>>6532546
If you genuinely cared about convincing people then I suggest you bring your advice to new transitioners - Brooklyn's not even on hrt iirc. why are you wasting your time arguing with people who are already comfortable with their decision? Moreover, your advice simply does not correlate with their experience.

As we discussed there MAY be long term regret, but you have no better solution to the immediate short term problem. It's like saying no on should drink because it'll shorten your life - sure, it will, but some people would rather risk fucking up their liver and having a life full of drunken fun than a long, healthy and 'boring' life.

In short, you're not going to 'save' any of the people you're arguing with right now. And deep down you know that, of course, you're just doing it to make you feel better about you.

>>6532559
>having children
Look at this fucking loser

>>6532583
>What, is this a post op general?
no, actually. most people here are faggots, mtfs, or shitposters. Bear in mind too, that 4chan's userbase is predominately male. when we do get people who are wondering if they're trans, they tend to post about it - because, you know, they want advice - I suggest you choose then to strike. This thread will likely be deleted before anyone questioning their gender gets to read your arguments.

>>6532602
And the fact you, some anonymous repressed mtf - soon to be another suicide victim or hon - think you deserve to be given serious consideration that goes against the work of the majority of trained specialists in the field is also fucking farcical.

I've heard Bart does the best FFS - you'll need it with all the years T has been fucking over your face :)

>>6532536

if i never met a cis male my body might still feel wrong to me, for the same reasons it would feel wrong even if i never went outside... you're arguing that being trans can't exist in a vacuum, but there's no way of proving that... again it's a hypothesis with nothing to back it

i don't keep and save every article or research paper i ever read in case i have a discussion with someone later and they want to see it, do you? i would have to look them up the same as you currently, and since you're the one who wants to see them feel free...

and that's not what i was saying actually, or even in the same ballpark... what i was saying is that you're arguing based on opinions you hold not facts, and that there isn't enough science on either side to have a proper scientific debate... but pretending that you know better than anyone else based on a hypothesis you can't possibly test is a terrible way to discuss anything...

you quoted something i said, twisted it and went off on a tangent about things i didn't say... literally all you quoted was me saying you were off about the social aspect being the major issue, and went off into a bunch of shit i didn't say... scroll up to my initial comment and reread it and tell me where i said anything about you not understanding cuz you're not trans and so on...

i think what you're not understanding is that this isn't about a desire to be anything, it's an issue that can't be helped... and it isn't a universal experience, maybe people all experience varying degrees of dissatisfaction but that's not the same as being trans if it was the percentages wouldn't be so low within the population

i'm actually not trying to convince you that it's any different than those things btw, i personally am capable of seeing the difference between someone being trans and someone wanting to be a dragon but i'm well aware you aren't and i'm also well aware that there is no convincing you otherwise... so yeah, that was unnecessary...

>>6532626
Woops!
Sorry!
It's all the T in my system, must be T raging. If only I had some more estrogen
shit, repressed hon anon, you're right!
#wherearemytits
#whathaveidone
#permanentlytitless
#waragainstdysphoria
#nowombnowayforward

>>6532675
Jesus, can you please go back to MtF gen so you can bitch about us there, because frankly I don't give a shit about what you think about the legitimacy of my mental disorder, or how im going about fixing it

>>6532684
ignore all hon posts


In other news:
I only transitioned because I wanted a straight girl to go out with me :^)

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fUcking hell who invited this asshole

>>6532559

you don't know whether or not a treatment will help someone else in the long run, and you're not in any position to give out that advice... telling other people what they might think or feel eventually based on your own opinions without any knowledge of the individual is pretty ridiculous... you really can't see that?

you don't know me as a person to tell me where i got this "idea," you don't know my background, thoughts, or anything really past what i've said right here... and you're using arguments about things i've never said to try to tell me what i think... i never said i had a male brain in a female body, or tried to explain what makes someone trans... i use the word dysphoria simply cuz that's the word that defines the experience, before i knew the word however i experienced it...

doctors profit off of everything they do, every medication they prescribe, every patient they see... that doesn't mean that they're somehow unnecessary or that their treatments aren't ever helpful... antibiotics are overprescribed, but does that mean no one needs them? antidepressants are given out by some doctors like candy, and yet some people genuinely need them to function... is depression just a word that doctors push on people and no one actually experiences it?

and yeah... poorly thought out opinions, and assumptions shouldn't dissuade someone from seeking treatment or making choices that make them happier in the long run... i mean, that should be given right?

you seem very concerned with fertility, and the ability to have kids, what's with the fixation? for the record i can't have kids, and it's not cuz of hormone treatment... as a matter of fact i'm not on them, i've never been in a position where i could treat my being trans at this point in my life... and i'm not sure that i could even go on hormones cuz i have a ton of health issues that would make it extremely risky...

>>6532689
she once met some old hons who regretted their decision and now that's respective of all long-term transitioners everywhere.

Also, she's repressed mtf which is why she's all like fucking trannies, destroying the precious, precious womb i'll never have.

Got any advice for a-looking-to-become-a-recreational-drug-using-anon?

>>6532675

there have not been enough studies to prove much of anything, you don't know what i would experience in a vacuum you're making assumptions...

i don't have a fixation with either of those things, and i don't really think being a guy or a girl necessarily sucks (i suppose it does for some people, but that's on an individual basis isn't it?), again you've decided what other people experience and you're projecting that onto an entire group of people and it doesn't work...

also you're talking as if transpeople were nonexistent before this kinda care was possible, you realize that part of the reason these treatments exist and have been refined is cuz people have felt the need to seek them out right? they aren't sought out cuz they exist, they exist cuz they were sought out...

it was your mistake yeah, and i don't doubt it... i can have a hard time articulating, i'm usually high or drunk and the health issues i have don't make me any better with shit when i'm sober, though i'm pretty sure (i've read and reread the shit i've said) that i was fairly clear this time around and it's more just your own bias and projections coming out rather than anything i've said

>>6532583
>Does it color every interaction? Sure, but unless that particular person is the sex I'm attracted to AND I'm particularly attracted to them, it's a drop in the bucket of a thousand factors that affect the interaction to the point of abject irrelevancy

This is where you're wrong, or have a blind spot. You're a cis guy, right? Try doing something as innocent as removing all your body hair or wearing makeup, and see how much of a drop in the bucket that really is.

> I'm no shrink but even I can tell you need to talk to one about your fixation with being treated differently for being female, and should probably focus on that issue FIRST before you try to sidestep the whole thing by no longer "being" female

If you go against what other people expect, they're going to tell you, no fixation required. Talking about it is not going to make me any less aware of what's happening, change the behavior of other people, or suddenly make me comfortable with faking femininity just to appease other people.

>>6532399
>>6532513
>>6532258
>prosthesis: 7
>prosthetic: 1
>toy: 1
>prop: 3

talking about fixations, lol

>>6532695

the repression thing wouldn't surprised me, when i was like 18-21 and really deeply in denial i was a total asshole to transpeople... in retrospect, i wanted them argue all of my insecurities for me

honestly, stick mostly to weed, other stuff is a good time here and there but too risky usually for it to be worthwhile longterm... research shit before you try it whenever possible (erowid is a personal favourite of mine for this, literally been using it for like... 15 years or so... it has huge amounts of user submitted content about good and bad experiences and descriptions of drug use + facts about the drugs... i think reading the bad experiences and the good ones is a great way to make a decision on trying something) on a personal level i can't recommend uppers at all, but some people like them... they make me fucking crazy though, and the week i did coke was pretty shit (i just kept taking it cuz it was that or be sober and i kept thinking "maybe this time it'll be good"), i spent a pretty big chunk of time smoking pcp + weed, and while it varied from some of the best highs ever to nightmarish experiences... it is addictive, withdrawal from it sucks, and it's pretty damaging so i can't 100% recommend it... opiates are my personal favourite, they're like fucking christmas... benzos are a good time as well... don't be friends with your dealer particularly if they're a little on the shady side, it's a good way to end up getting "gifts" in the form of shit being mixed in with your drugs and that's not always a good time (but sometimes it's a nice "hey free drugs" experience) i had a point where i really enjoyed mixing muscle relaxers and whiskey but that shit can kill you so again not recommended...

i've never taken any psychedelics so i can't tell you shit about those...not through lack of desire, just never had access to them and been in a place where trying them seemed like a good idea at the same time...

but basically just...be careful and aware

>>6532732

well that's just not true... i just said some very useful shit about recreational drug use to someone else...

but if calling me stupid makes you feel better about your opinions not being facts, and you don't want to recognize the reality of the lack of research etc that's cool... i'm completely fine with you thinking i'm an idiot

>thinks being trans is just being socially dysphoric
>thinks otherkin is in any way comparable to being trans
>thinks transgenderism can't exist in a social vacuum
>thinks dysphoria is just being dissatisfied with your sex
>"g-guys I totally understand dysphoria! I totally understand something that I have never experienced and I am 100% qualified to dismiss it as being fake!!!!!"

>>6532760

you're acting like discussing being trans is the same as discussing existentialism, and well it isn't... though if it was you'd probably grasp the value of setting your own values, doing what you feel is right for you, and living life as you see fit...

>>6532730
Thanks, Brooklyn.
I can't wait to get on the drug train of degeneracy. I was thinking about doing some opiates, so I'm glad they get a positive review from you.

>>6532762
you missed a couple of zingers:
>thinks transgenderism was invented by Big Pharma within the last 50 years
>thinks no trans people have ever heard of BIID and that it is comparable to being trans

does anyone have experience in their dysphoria changing?

not the focus of the dysphoria but how it feels as a whole and how you respond to it?

mine used to be distinguishable by what I can only describe as lows and highs. Id either be bordering on it being manageable to having panic attacks because of it, and now it's just sort of melted into the background.. Like it just feels like this weight of alienation from myself and stress/unease I can't get rid of. Not extreme enough I really have any emotional response to it (beyond being on edge/ irritable all the time) but not low enough it doesn't control every part of my life trying to get away from it.

Idk maybe it's because I'm in therapy and that is starting to mellow out the extremes a bit since I'm starting to see an end goal, or it has to do with me being older, but it is strange.