North Dakota edition
Feel the Bern, you MAGA Uncle Toms
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Previous thread >>6343193
>>6343966
>still supporting a guy thats politically dead
top kek
>>6343969
No
It's DEMOCRATIC socialism
don't you see, you get to vote for the guy who steals your money, totally different
>>6343965
>>6343959
>>6343955
I would not be so confident in her if I was you.
>>6343966
Bernie literally lost, no hope left. Sad!
>>6343966
we're going to south carolina and oklahoma and arizona and north dakota and new mexico, and we're going to california and texas and new york
and we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan, and then we're going to washington dc to take back the white house
>>6343966
superior Dakota coming right through
>>6343966
BUILD A WALL
>>6343972
America is screwed either way
>>6343983
thats why you need the god emperor to make it great again
>>6343976
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAaaaAaaaaAa
>>6343987
No
Trump And Hilary are both bad politics
>>6343987
Germany needs him too
>>6343966
Why do so many transgirls love Mr Free Shit?
>>6343976
Kit I feel you so badly hunstmans are the physical representations of death and pestilence
Repost. I'm fucking up all over the place.
>>6343973
>>6343973
I really want to kill myself. That's a weord feeling. My mom, my grandparents, my roommates, everyone knows i want to kill myself. That's a really weird feeling. I'm out here, tons of alone time, could decide to really do it any time. No one cares.
>>6343987
>more /polgbt/ retardation
>>6343961
do you mean what games in general? i mostly play like.. dota or OW but my PC is busto rn so i dont really play anything... i like a lot of games tho.. i want the new FE game...
also jormy tried to teach me CIV before but idk, i think we had connection issues so we didn't get so far
Everyone just took my jokey Facebook post about me "coming out as goth" as me coming out as trans for real
I got like 20 likes and "be who you are"/"girl you look majestic" etc. comments and my cousin WHO I'M NOT OUT TO messaged me and congratulated me on my transition
send help
>>6343988
the other day a spider crawled down my bra and I never found it desu
>>6343972
You know, apart from the bit where he is a senator
>>6344000
I went through a stretch of alcoholism, heavy weed usage and self harm. Most of my friends and family knew I was horrendously depressed. No one said anything to me about it until I ended up in hospital really.
People are really good at ignoring stuff that makes them uncomfortable.
>>6343997
>free shit
Wow, such a clever meme. Universal healthcare is so outlandish and scary that I bet only the Soviet Union ever tried it.
That feel when I have an exam tomorrow for a course I have not been to, nor seen any of it's content.
>>6344000
Trust me, "no one cares" is a false impression. It's really unlikely no one does. And you can't stop them from caring.
>>6343997
It's like saying why have an idiot like trump or Hilary in
>>6344002
>also jormy tried to teach me CIV before but idk, i think we had connection issues so we didn't get so far
I was there
>>6344004
there's like 3 spiders in the bathroom downstairs here
i haven't used it in a week, i go all the way upstairs just to use the non-spider bathroom
i'm deathly afraid of them
>>6344003
lmao
>>6344003
No turning back now. That's a good thing. And I know you'll do fine.
>>6343976
>hiding in your car from a spider
literally a caricature of a woman
Huntsman spiders are generally considering non-dangerous to humans, due to their venom being non-toxic to people.
They are also considered non-aggressive towards people, and mainly feed on other bugs and insects.
However, despite being non-threatening, the large spiders have a hairy, dark-brown apperance, and a habit of hiding behind furniture and inside cars meaning people are often given a shock when they spot one
>>6344003
Called it.
Congrats. Everyone knew and no one cares.
And I know that sounds mean, but come on, it's pretty obvious. Even your sister was hinting that you go longer passed as a boy.
>>6343990
Hillary is bad
Trump has never been a politician before, theres no telling if he will be good or bad.
>>6343997
cause theyre on autismbux
>>6343992
oh definitely
>>6344001
sit down little one
>>6344005
wasnt his trackrecord extremely bad as a senator? but fair enough, the USsenate doesnt really influence my life so I generally dont care that much
>>6344020
BUT I'M STILL LIVING WITH MY PARENTS FOR 3-4 MORE WEEKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbXfk5lpLew
They left out taking hormones and posting on 4chan otherwise this is very accurate,
>>6344008
American healthcare is so expensive because of the amounts of regulations being placed on it
>>6344023
>me
>no longer passing as a boy
I mean I guess in a sense you're right but I don't look like a girl either, I look like a man who has obvious breasts from taking female hormone pills
>>6344005
I don't want to end up in a hospital. I don't want to walk to a new job every week anymore. I don't want to be a boy anymore, or be the disappointment of my family, the highschool dropout. I will not ever accomplish anything. Why am i still here? Why can't i just do it?
>>6344027
A month is nothing in a life, feels bad when you go through it, but it shouldn't have any long lasting repercussions. Unless there's something specific you have reason to be afraid of.
>>6344024
He's done enough in the primaries to warrant himself as an idiot. He constantly says things in the past that he's never said before and when he's shown footage of it, he tries to deny it.
>>6344024
Revive Kaiser Wilhelm and retake Germany from Caliph Merkel
>>6344033
Yup, my point exactly. Now work on the other part.
Seiously though, if you had the opposite of eye shadow you'd be fine
>>6344003
your own reduced sense of self awareness bites you in the ass yet again my friend, i mean who'd have thought something so life changing which causes such physiological differences over a number of months be so apparent to everyone?
congrats on coming out!
>>6344039
>self made billonaire
>idiot
top kek
>>6344041
I would if I could. at this point, Id even accept a habsburg over a Hohenzollern if that meant a united germany.
>>6343973
:ccc please doontt
i can talk if u want
>>6344045
BUT I LOOK LIKE A MAN, JUST MORE ATTRACTIVE IN GOTH MAKEUP
MY TITS WEREN'T EVEN IN THE PHOTO
>>6344048
I'm curious Phie
How come you're a monarchist? Don't hear many people from republics holding such views
>>6344048
You just went to another topic.
Congrats on avoiding it moron
WHO HAS THE BEST GEOGRAPHY SKILLZ HERE??????????
http://online.seterra.net/en/vgp/3073
>>6344052
Tfw Robin passes better than me
>>6344054
Provide an example first, so she can rebutt.
>>6344024
Not sure desu. Doesn't effect me either.
>>6344034
>I don't want to end up in a hospital
yeah fair enough.
> I don't want to walk to a new job every week anymore
why a new job every week?
> I don't want to be a boy anymore
go fulltime then
>or be the disappointment of my family, the highschool dropout
stop giving a fuck about what they think
>I will not ever accomplish anything.
so what? most people don't accomplish much in their life
i'm so incredibly done with bernie shit
vermont sucks
>>6344053
Democracy is the second worst form of government. Even plato knew that.
its pretty obvious
>>6344054
hey, Its not my problem if you dont understand that I just btfo'd your argumentation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
but you probably also think hitler was evil, so theres not really anything to discuss with the politically inept
>>6344061
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons-japan/
>>6344002
HOI is kinda boring unless you find the idea of a game written by and for WW2 nerds fun. My only experience was a single game of hoi3, desu, and I picked the soviet union, and halfway through 1936 I was wishing for a multiplayer high command mode because it was just too much to figure out.
IMO the real good paradox GSG is CK, which actually has some fun, engaging content.
>>6344066
Are you an Absolute Monarchist?
>>6344049
I could talk to 20 people every day, a million billion hotlines and health articles telling me why i shouldn't. It won't help. I won't magically wake up and feel loved or even unalone. I won't suddenly be okay with how my life played out, or have the stamina to go to my dead end job.
Allllll the effort concerned in doing that shit. Or i could off myself and expend no effort at all.
>>6344032
>being this delusional
Tort reform would literally only remove single digit percentages to the whole.
>>6344071
She's being edgy for (you)s
>>6344070
HoI3 was bad so probably isnt a good example
and one go at any complex game is probably gonna make it seem bad.
>>6344074
i want (you)s too
>>6344071
Not sure, probably not, but I think there should be a controlmechanism to weed out inept rulers, I am not sure what to use for this tho
>>6344074
???
>>6344078
(you)
>>6344078
here have one
>>6344052
you're not exactly good at hiding anything though, people you've had anything to do with over the last few months are going to think "Gee edgar certainly likes wearing makeup and has quite the assets going on." i mean its obvious really. no-one ever jumps to conclusions someone is trans unless they're actually poking their tits in their faces
"Hey mum, can I ask, do you think I look more feminine than usual?" *adopts model pose, gropes own tits, bends over*
"Why do you ask, darling son of mine?"
"N-no reason."
>>6344078
purest form of love
>>6344070
I'm pretty fond of Victoria 2 even if it's on the simple and easy side. HoI games are more what if? simulators. Boring if you don't have anything specific in mind. CKII is actually a deep game that stays interesting because it keeps sending you curveballs out of the blue.
>>6344079
thank you
>>6344080
thank you
>>6344083
thank you
i was trying to stay up so i could say hi to grace when she woke up but i'm exhausted so g'n everyone
>>6344087
gniiight
kiwi
is H&M a trans meme?
because it's not bad and I like and want to use it but I don't want to be a comedic topic of conversation on the internet
ARRRRRGGGHGHHGGHGHGHGHHGH
well okay I talked to a friend I AM out to who knows my cousin and apparently she dislikes my parents enough that she has no plans to tell them
crisis averted, I don't think anyone else I have on there really knows my parents or talks to them
>>6344077
I guess. I was just kind of surprised. Like Victoria was complex but not so punishing that I felt like I needed the ins and outs of economics (thank fuck) to make it work.
Also I guess I didn't find the very setpiece of history part super engaging.
>>6344087
nini sweet dreams
>>6344064
theres nothing to do here and its just a bunch of cucks and wings
>>6344098
How is a major clothing chain a trans meme?
>>6344078
PUREST FORM OF LOVE
>>6344103
isn't ben and jerry's there
I know they're cucks but good ice cream
>>6344079
>tfw live in a country with a monarch
Jealous Phienchen-Senpai?
>tfw finally gonna start HRT today
Feels good man
>tfw went to Peter Bjorn And John gig last night
>every time I look around me people are staring at me right in the eyes
I don't want to be an obvious disgusting freak
I wish I was at least unpassing-but-cute
>>6344098
im not sure what this post is asking
>>6344108
probably not.
netherlands are irrelevant politically, sweden is cucked, UK is full of snackbars, spain is poor as fuck
I cant think of any other important countries with monarchs
also PB&J are an ace band and and anyone who thinks they only have one good song is retarded
>>6344115
Would you rather have a Trumpenfurher, Emporer Trump, or King Trump?
>>6344117
YES
>>6344115
The Desert one with the Saxe-Coburg-Go...
I mean Windsors
>>6344117
>>6344098
Nah, it's good if you're on a budget. They have solid basics. Including comfortable, cheap flats if you can find your shoe size. And a few items of makeup that aren't total crap. Actually dragged my mother through one to get her to buy light clothes for Thailand because she's afraid of small shops and doesn't want to spend money on fashion.
>>6344112
You're def cute (and almost passing) in the goth makeup at least, how do you look without it?
>>6344120
yep, thats a pretty good one at least far away from MENA
>>6344118
Emperor
>>6344122
you are doing god's work anon. bless your heart.
>>6344108
>tfw your country wouldn't have a monarch if it wasn't for the other regions
>>6344098
its fine & good consider what we have in australia
its hard to go wrong with clothes honestly unless you are like walking around in rainbow thigh highs
>tfw too scare to buy girls clothes
>tfw buying girls jeans gave me a panic attack
>>6344124
lol
h&m is an immensely popular clothing store, there's no "h&m tranny meme"
if people make fun of you for shopping at h&m it's not going to be because you're a tranny
>>6344117
YES
>>6344132
>im not fishing
What clothing stores/brands are tranny memes?
>>6344127
Yeah
and we lock up undocumented refugees
i'm sorry i have self-image problems
>>6344131
>tfw Kit doesn't notice your (you)
;-;
>>6344126
one of the most infamous hons in the board's history, that's why I was experimenting w/ makeup and found the goth look works, I was in (supposedly) guymode last night though
>>6344142
aaaaaa im sorry anon !!!!! !! please don't be sad ;~;
>>6344147
you remember me right ;~;
>>6344137
amazon and sockdreams
>>6344148
yes ofc !! shame the game was like, really short ._.;
>>6344141
i'm sorry you're so passive aggressive
>>6344137
Don't know about clothing, but when it comes to makeup, Laukrom comes to mind. Stage makeup and fx brands, they have blendable white and flesh foundation sticks that are incredibly covering and still relatively light for stage makeup. Pretty much every trans uses them at some point here to hide beard shadow before laser and the like lets you switch to normal makeup. It's actually used as a common name for any heavy concealer in trans circles here.
>>6344150
ikr, real shame
I dropped out like twice ;_;
thought it was my connection but I played with a couple of Americans sometime afterwards and didn't crash once.
We should play some games together desu
>>6344131
this is why I almost exclusively shop online
so today I found out that my friend I like is still with his high school girlfriend after 2 years + long distance. I thought that they broke up a while a go, but apparently not :'(
>mfw he's serious about her
>mfw will never able to take place of a real girl
>mfw always going to be a guy to him
>>6344162
>tfw
for what reason would a guy go for me when they just get a real girl ;_;
Anyone live in tn? Know where to get laser hair removal or should I save up for a device I can use at home?
>>6344124
People on here aren't known for dressing well.
>>6344165
you are real girls blockhead
>>6344168
i'm a boy~
>>6344168
>penis
>real girl
nice meme
>>6344131
Nobody cares what you buy, really, so no need to be afraid. After I detransitioned in my 20s, I kept buying most of my clothes from the women's section and I never really got any weird looks or comments.
>>6344168
Def not me senpai I look like a man I'm a delusional freak show.
>>6344165
My only saving grace is that we used to watch anime together online and he wants to start doing again
>>6344166
Devices you can get at home are good for body hair, but they don't cut it for facial hair until you're at the touch up stage. Look for dermatology clinics in your phone book, plenty of them do laser these days and that's something you don't want to get from a salon, really.
>>6344137
I know uniqlo gets recommended a lot maybe I'm a pleb but I find their stuff really ugly.
>>6344168
I could look as feminine as possible, but I would still feel inadequate that I couldn't give him children
>>6344180
Same, haven't seen that chain in France, but plenty of those shops in Thailand. My experience was along the lines of step in, yuck, step out.
basic medical history: printed
letter saying where i need to go: got
most recent blood test readings: got
vial of piss: fucking got
mentally prepared to have blood taken, to be poked, prodded and to have things shoved places: heck yes m8
mentally prepared to go to a hospital: nope nope nope nope
bring it on mates, this endo is getting a rude fucking awakening of pure hysteria
>>6344078
Purest form of love.
>>6344184
I'm glad I was able to skip endos altogether, to be honest. The least "specialists" involved in my transition, the better. Got my HRT script straight from my GP and my SRS letters from shrinks who had never written one before.
>>6344188
How do you feel about yaoi?
>>6344183
I've only seen there stuff online but it looked to blocky and try hard to be androgynous clothing I don't need andro stuff I need qt stuff which is why I use Ali express and Amazon it's cheap and it fits and I don't have to terrify the public with my appearance.
>>6344179
Yeah I feared this as poor as shit and tn is a godamn landfill can't find any laser clinics here ;_;
>>6344188
Maybe because its target demographic is adolescent boys
>>6344188
Less than Neil. And let's not talk about Dirk.
>>6344186
oh this is intersex based, i've been putting this off ten years. i'm jealous though, my GP won't give me a script until it gets signed off by the endo i'm seeing today. i didn't want to muddy the water with this stuff until after i got a script, but when my baseline estradiol levels say 'slightly raised for a biological female' the guy is gonna be suspicious
>>6344139
we give them free shit ;~;
>>6344182
well I hope some day that can be a possibility for the girls who want that
>>6344190
yaoi > yuri tbqh
>>6344190
Yaoi is the best.
>>6344201
I read that a German woman got evicted to make room for refugees.
I literally had to stop reading for a while and stare off into space.
Poor Germany ;_;
>>6344188
this desu
it's super hard to find yuri where they don't both look like 12 year olds
>>6344154
I can't play so much rn cause busto computer + exams, but yeah definatley in the future !!
>>6344202
birdy are you a gay ??? it's ok if you are !!!
>>6344201
>tfw will never immigrate to live w/ sophie
>work extra late last night
>start talking with the customer more
>end up having dinner with him
>talked about helping me find work with a toy company he founded
>wants to see my place and says I should get ready
>frantically rush around and get myself ready
>intercom doesn't work
>find a note the next day, saying I didn't reply when he pushed the button
>says its a shame but still wants to come round and be friends
>just gotta get ready and train my voice in a few days seeing how he sparked something within me that really wants me togit gud now
>mfw
>>6344190
Boys Love is good!
I always self-insert as the femboy
>>6343981
I like her, at least she's a real woman.
>>6344202
the biggest hurdle for me right now is my mind rationalizing that I will probably never be able to have biological childern
>>6344209
aww yay
hmu whenever kay?
>>6344197
I got that with smooth talk, to be honest. Since I was self-medding and wouldn't stop anyway, I had an easy time leveraging the Hippocratic Oath and getting her to admit not writing a script was doing more harm than giving me the exact one I wanted. Also "forgot" to mention HRT meds weren't covered by public health insurance for transition purposes, so I've had my hormones for free since.
Is it still an agp transbian couple if one is cis? Or is it a degenerate hetero relationship?
>>6344202
>yaoi > yuri tbqh
Yes
>>6344209
Id let you immigrate
youre a super cool cookie and Id adopt you
>>6344212
this is biggest fetish
>>6344201
Remove refugees when?
>>6344205
An entire family in Sweden got evicted to "make room for new swedes". It's quite sickening
>>6344211
Good luck!
>>6344217
goddamn, i tried that, but it was like smooth talking a brick wall. too much arse-covering in this country, the Hippocratic oath comes secondary to fear of people suing over medical malpractice
>>6344220
Can I come to Germany and join the Crusade to Make Deutschland Great Again?
>>6344223
Hannah! XD
hw r u keepin if I may ask?¬
>>6344228
I'm good thanks and you? I finally managed to start anti androgens so I'm feeling better.
Sorry I haven't been on Skype in a while :P
>>6344209
no I'm one of them pan memesexuals
>>6344214
you still can technically, just not in the way you'd want. It might be a while but surely some day someone will find a way to make that happen.
>>6344219
>tfw no cute anime bf
>>6344232
I haven't bothered with it much either so its understandable! =}
That's good! Now all you need is time and effort, like voice clothing, etc as to passing! X}
>>6344188
>>6344207
It's pretty annoying
>>6344233
yeah, I know about artificial womb and the fact that they can move dna from a sperm cell into a donor egg. But inorder for that to happen I would need to save sperm and that is expensive.
I love y'all~
always push ahead! good times are ahead!!!
>>6344243
>tfw wanna expand this but teacher and peers are nearby
the peer can't comprehend English anyways so it doesn't matter whats written
! XD
>>6344245
Well I'm sure you'll do great!
>>6344245
it's japanese
>>6344239
that's why my favourite one is the handholding one I posted for the last thread's OP
everything else seems to be just some dude's fantasy about underage girls and muh forbidden pure love
>>6344243
>that pic
is there some kind of weird bandaid fetish I don't know about or something? What's with anime and sticking bandaids all over people's faces?
>>6344206
speak for yourself <3 my relationships are all pure love that started in drawn out anxiety filled ways
>>6344252
Yeah that's why I like the guitar playing ones they seem less fetishy than the direct cuddles.
>>6344226
Thing that helped I think is that she's very lesbian friendly. And lesbians get a lot of shit from your average GP or gyno so she's very accommodating. Got her address from a FtM friend. I was her first MtF patient but that wasn't really an obstacle. She's used to self-medding trans guys, and self-administering T is a lot riskier than what we do so there's that.
>tfw sweaty vulva
Summer is the wurst.
Yaoi is truly the purest expression of love~
>>6344243
But I'm dying
>>6344260
Tfw no vulva
>>6344261
society should be more accepting of children having romantic feelings for each other and promote safe sex in all countries
>>6344257
the guitar ones are super cute too :3
At some point I must have picked up a months worth of cypro twice in a week. I have like an extra months supply.
bllllllleeeeeeeeeeghhhhhh
im bored and lonely
what are you up to /mtfg/
and how are u
>>6344268
Killing myself :DDDD
>tfw you want to hug someone but the person is too far away
>>6344276
What's their name?
>>6344268
loathing life over a guy and a lack of ovaries/eggs
>>6344276
iktf
>tfw straight girl crush
K I L L M E
>>6344265
it's fun to find good stuff among all the nonsense
>>6344276
constant suffering
>>6344268
watching some stream league of legends with my gf and looking up rules for bringing medication into australia.
>>6344223
>Remove refugees when?
D E P O R T
>>6344227
yes please!
>>6344282
I keep telling you
SPAGHETTI
>>6344274
noo :c dont do that anon
whats wrong
>>6344280
awww :( im sorry
>>6344285
sounds fun !
and good luck with medication things
>>6344268
Trying to force myself to sleep so I can stream at actually reasonable time later today.
Pretty happy otherwise, well except I can taste the grass being cut outside by some dingus.
rrrreeeeeee
gaygen got deleted !!!!
>>6344288
What does that mean though?
>>6344291
ooh c: what are you going to stream?
>>6344268
Probably going to work on my Japanese.
>>6344276
It sucks, have a spess snek.
>>6344294
Yes the muslims will totally accept and support us if we just accept them I bet
>>6344297
Well typically its me and my girlfriend doing the sex things, but one day I hope we can transition into a cooking show.
>>6344290
Will probably never need to know.
I applied for some intern/scholarship stuff that is in Australia is all. Chance of me getting either is minute.
>>6344307
sex things > food play > cooking show
Sounds like a sold plan
I want to talk about sexual objectification theory being a possible cause of most long term body issues in transwomen on reddit, but I literally can't because it gets brigaded.
>>6344301
m8 the Christians and Jews who actually follow the bible aren't exactly accepting either. You educate such people and convert them to secularism/the local culture. Most western jews/christians have been thoroughly defanged and the same can be done here with some finesse.
Accepting too many refugees and accepting them without assimilating them is dumb but so is ignoring the fact that a moderate stream of refugees has been shown to be economically beneficial so long as they are properly assimilated. Between Muslims and alt-right fascists I choose brainwashing both.
>>6344311
reddit is not for discussion
>>6344311
That's nice Angie.
>>6344311
link?
>>6343987
You take him
>>6344294
>being politically inept
>implying german conservatives have a problem with faggots
>>6344316
m8, those dont exist in europe
>educating people with no skills and below average IQ
yes, very productive
>ignoring the fact that a moderate stream of refugees has been shown to be economically beneficial
nice source
>implying economy is more important than national unity
>>6344307
were you aware all of your shows are streamable on a website anyone can access?
>>6344290
I exist
>>6344322
That isn't me, senpai
>>6344307
sex -> cooking
where are you even streaming this?
>>6344003
You're screwed robin they all know
>>6344310
Well the only foodplay request we had so far was to do a shot of snapple out of eachother's belly buttons. But I have high hopes for this plan, if it doesn't pan out then I hope I can stream children's card games.
>>6344327
Obviously, its to be expected with so many viewers constantly.
>>6344329
A nice site I like to call seaterbeater, iunno where else it would be streamed.
>>6344327
That's so horrible, but what website though
>>6344032
That's not true
>tfw woke up and can't get back to sleep.
>>6344226
I let me PC doc know that the effects of HRT was so psychologically positive for me that there was no way I was going to stop taking them. She wrote me scripts.
>>6344264
Agreed... My parents supplied both me and my brother with all the free condoms we needed starting at puberty. They didn't want an oops...
>>6344326
>Posting nazi imagery when those same fuckers would sterilize and or execute you
Protip: German conservatives are not even remotely close to the alt-right on the political spectrum.
>those dont exist in europe
They absolutely do. They just lack much political power so they work indirectly.
>educating people with no skills and below average IQ
First of all a lot of Syrian refugees who actually made it to Europe made it because they had the money to bribe the right people to make it there because they worked in advanced professions. Even if it was true though importing people who are willing to do the jobs the locals are not is ultimately beneficial.
>National unity
is code for "roll back society by 80 years". If your hoodlum friends ever win once they are done with the muhammadans you're next.
>>6343966
>Not knowing that Sanders is a Trump plant to divide and conquer the clueless democrats
>>6344342
>sterilize a tranny
Quelle horreur.
>>6344100
Robin you're parents may already know
https://8ch.
Net/trap/res/4721.html
Free Sophie nudes
>>6344340
My parents never bothered with condoms because they were pretty certain I'd never get into sex and any they would provide me with would end up as fake breasts anyway. They were right about the latter part, but condoms were available everywhere for free here at the time, so that never stopped me. And I did have PiV sex twice. With condoms. Still a huge mistake.
>>6344342
>importing people who are willing to do the jobs the locals are not is ultimately beneficial
just like Saudi Arabia and all the work camps they have?
>>6344287
I honestly wanna go to Germany one day
it sounds like a cool country, I tried learning German but I lost motivation and school was distracting ;_;
Reminder Hitler killed German culture way better than any refugee did, and it was all because he was upset since he had no talent.
>>6344337
That is an interesting link.
>Internalized SO may intersect with other forms of oppression, such as heterosexism, ableism, and racism. For example, the intersections of selfobjectification and internalized heterosexism may encourage some lesbians to
>(a) devalue homosexuality and place superior value on heterosexuality and
its corresponding notions of what it means to be a woman,
>(b) be somewhat public about their sexual orientation but pass through assuming heterosexual behavior and dress as determined by male standards of female beauty to be socially acceptable or a good/model lesbian, and/or
>(c) criticize other lesbians who have a “butch” or unfeminine appearance
Yeah, I could see this kinda thing playing some role. I think it would definitely play some role but I suspect it's not a likely cause for most issues. Maybe more likely to be the cause in conventionally attractive/passing trans women? Non-passing trans women would have enough reasons to have body image issues.
Interesting to read about anyway
>>6344353
You can say what you will about Saudi Arabia but it is ultimately benefiting economically from the situation even if it is treating those workers in an inhumane fashion.
>>6344355
Was stuck for a full day at the Francfort airport, and that's enough Germany for me for the next ten years at the very least...
>>6344360
Benefiting how? Inflating their population numbers and giving the impression its a nice place to live for all the diviersity? By the way, its boring and sterile, like the desert.
http://m.xhamster.
com/movies/6030505/partialasian_play_time_with_her_girlfriend.html#
I kekd
>>6344342
>importing people who are willing to do the jobs the locals are not is ultimately beneficial.
two reasons it's not true here,
1. In this case the mass staged abuse of women has significant costs to tourism, security, and is shocking enough to demand expensive and drastic shifts in policy
2. importing skilled workers is sometimes a necessity, you can't just produce time sensitive candidates out of thin air if there are none
but if no one wants to do a job, then the wage has to be increased until you find someone to do it, if it's not profitable you accept the waste and invest the capital and land on something that is profitable. Off putting the cost of health care, child care, housing, and education to the tax payer to support the refugee/illegal immigrant economy only benefits the business owners that use them and make the countries economy worse overall
>>6344365
By getting work done for dirt cheap without providing healthcare etc. Their own citizens wouldn't accept such conditions.
>>6344342
>They absolutely do
One of my former friends has a pretty high job in a churchorganisation, executive level, me being a degenerate has never impacted our relationship negatively
>German conservatives are not even remotely close to the alt-right on the political spectrum.
I am not sure, AfD and JF seem pretty close, I dont fully identify with either
>is code for "roll back society by 80 years"
are you high? let me guess though, youre 'american'
>First of all a lot of Syrian refugees who actually made it to Europe made it because they had the money to bribe the right people to make it there because they worked in advanced professions.
who the fuck believes that. German mainstream media reports that 2/3 can barely read or write. the absolute majority doesnt know shit and has no useful skills. Everything else has been debunked by German politics (not the right, the governing parties) and economists.
>Even if it was true though importing people who are willing to do the jobs the locals are not is ultimately beneficial.
thats a meme. those jobs dont exist. if someone here doesnt want to do those jobs, then the pay is too bad. if the job is vital to a company, the pay has to be raised and the problem will solve itself. importing people that work below minimum wage hurts the working class, the political climate, the crime rates and the cultural development of a nation. Germany hasnt been as torn politically since 1949. thats not a good thing.
it does net the big coorps a decent profit though
>If your hoodlum friends ever win once they are done with the muhammadans you're next.
if that saves my country and my sisters future, I am in. Individualism is cancer anyway
Give me the strength to off myself
>>6344380
Boop,
How are you Sophie?
>>6344337
>https://www.apa.org/education/ce/sexual-objectification.pdf
Looks interesting. I'll have to read it later when my mind clears from it's morning fog.
>>6344352
I always felt good during the sex, but after I'd get depressed. Took me a bit to realize thrusting during PiV was why. A couple gfs figured out how to distract and make me feel better after.
>>6344373
That ultimately hurts the economy by reduced demand at the stores because the workers are not paid a living wage.
>>6344384
I think I am having an okay day today, lots of stuff to do tho and I only slept 3 hours
how are you?
>>6344380
>individualism is a cancer
How so?
good morning mtfg ~
>>6344360
exploiting labor is the name of the game,
not all places are inhumane
autists here have little (if any) work/business experience, so the idea is completely out of their grasp
Some people here are going to get a well deserved dose of reality in the form of a haymaker to the jaw when they step outside the hugbox.
>>6344346
Didn't they sterilize gay men in Britain
>>6344337
I dont have the time to read the whole paper, but the chart looks scary, and terribly accurate.
>>6344392
Plato's Politeia.
democracies are inherently hedonist.
>>6344389
In a somewhat similar position.
I slept poorly... what sleep I did get was haunted by bizarre dreams, bordering on nightmares.
And now I'm turning my room into something that couldn't easily be compared to a pigsty.
>>6344393
Kill me Korra
>>6344395
True
if i were to marry my canadian boyfriend, how long would it take before i qualified for public health insurance for my hormones and eventually srs/ffs?
im pretty sure my parents are going to stop paying for my housing/school soon and it might be my only option.
please help me canadians.
>>6344393
Morning Korra.
>>6344397
What's the solution? Dictatorship?
>>6344380
That's funny. In France, immigrants have long been reviled for being strike breakers. And they still do that. Actually, they're the main reason general strikes have become more rare here even though there's still truth to the strike as a French pastime stereotype. Only Indians come anywhere close to having so many.
But immigrants? No social or political consciousness. They keep going to work no matter what. Because they don't care about seeing further than their next paycheck. And I'm not just talking about Africans here. European immigrants were and still are just as bad.
>I'm such a pathetic boring trip that I need to announce my presence everyday as if this was my blog
>>6344393
What's up senpai
>>6344369
>In this case the mass staged abuse of women has significant costs to tourism, security, and is shocking enough to demand expensive and drastic shifts in policy
True. I actually think that the government ought spend a lot of effort to convert everyone to a proper western mindset, including German-born citizens. Religious schools and alternative paths of education are just foolish. Lets not pretend German men, like men everywhere, don't rape and abuse women at an alarmingly high rate though. Muslim men are obviously much worse but truth be told society as a whole could stand to do a lot more to stop rape and sexual harassment from all men.
>importing skilled workers is sometimes a necessity, you can't just produce time sensitive candidates out of thin air if there are none
I agree that this is a poor way to import skilled workers.
>but if no one wants to do a job, then the wage has to be increased until you find someone to do it, if it's not profitable you accept the waste and invest the capital and land on something that is profitable. Off putting the cost of health care, child care, housing, and education to the tax payer to support the refugee/illegal immigrant economy only benefits the business owners that use them and make the countries economy worse overall
Here's the thing: if business owners have to pay higher wages then they have to charge more for the same product. Lowering the cost of production ultimately lowers the cost of the product for the consumer and thus increases the buying power of the consumer and the value of the currency in question. I'd argue that importing foreign workers benefits everyone except the lower-class Germans who would otherwise get to work at those low-paying jobs and get paid more for them.
I can't say there aren't any advantages to that in the sense that it makes the rich poorer and the poor richer, which if you're a socialist is a feat, but if we look at aggregate wealth that's questionably helpful.
>>6344406
I'm getting pretty sick of my ferry being delayed everytime I need to cross the channel. I hope Africans take all of your jobs.
>>6344410
Now, mind, I'll agree that accepting *refugees* rather than *immigrants* is somewhat economically questionable in the sense that you have to "waste" a lot of money on supporting them while they set up. That's more of a moral question.
>>6344394
Welcome to capitalism
>>6344357
the trans narrative is very very broad, but I think most of us, one on one, will say that had pretty horrible dysphoria in some sense,
and yes I'm talking about like how I feel, and how I see edie, blair white, ufufu talk about how their dysphoria has "changed" I almost feel like, maybe what I'm feeling is the effects of sexual objectification.
like there's a lot of it
>people being attracted to our dicks openly
> the narrative in media being centered around the pretty virginal straight conforming transwoman that everyone likes or the evil gender deviant MAN transwoman who you can assault for trying to pee
>seeing people say they only want to transition if youre pretty
>how people act to me on dating websites as trans vs gay vs straight (straight is really nice, gay is mostly nice, trans is a dick bouquet)
>tier lists, wanting to be on tier lists
but like I don't know, need more input, the symptoms match closely with dysphoria, and I guess that's ok to use, but if it is a symptom of sexual objectification then there is a TON of research and books to learn to cope with it.
>>6344410
>Here's the thing: if business owners have to pay higher wages then they have to charge more for the same product.
A $5 loaf of bread is the same price as a $10 if you have $0 because an immigrant who'll work for pennies on the dollar took your job.
>>6344415
>2016
>Using ferries
Besides, what's a rosbif pensioner doing on 4chan?
>>6344420
I get the tickets payed for by my work and it's better than driving.
its
raiinniiiinggg ^^
who here /happy/
>>6344423
I'm always happy when it rains desu
>>6344424
I find it easy to sleep when it does
Tfw no tits
>>6344419
There's no reason why the vast majority of actual Germans can't find white collar jobs. For those Germans the $5 loaf is a massive net win. The middle and upper classes prosper on the backs of the lower classes. That's capitalism.
>>6344423
I could be but I'm miserable instead. I blame the crushing loneliness that accompanies not seeing friends for a month.
>>6344424
Summer rains remind me of a high school girlfriend. She loved staying out and letting the warm rain shower her. That kind of nostalgia is bad for me, though.
>>6344429
awww :((
any way you can see them soon?
either way i believe in u, stay safe c:
>>6344418
It is kind of stupidly long at this point but read the AGP gen. It shows a very interesting alternative perspective.
>>6344431
Consider suicide
>>6344428
That's what's wrong with capitalism
>>6344428
Yes. Everyone can and wants to get a white collar job. Yep, that's a thing.
>>6344435
Did you miss the memo? Been there, done that a few days ago and the Me, Myself and I committee came to the unanimous conclusion that it's a really bad idea...
>>6344396
Some countries even required no saving back of sperm for those that transitioned. EU rules zapped those laws
>>6344404
A balance of democracy, socialism, and capitalism. No one can be allowed to much poser. Here in the US we are suffering because capitalism has to much power.
>>6344406
Strikes are beneficial as they help level the power between the workers and the owners.
>>6344410
>Here's the thing: if business owners have to pay higher wages then they have to charge more for the same product. Lowering the cost of production ultimately lowers the cost of the product for the consumer and thus increases the buying power of the consumer and the value of the currency in question. I'd argue that importing foreign workers benefits everyone except the lower-class Germans who would otherwise get to work at those low-paying jobs and get paid more for them.
This lowers the overall size of the economy, and increases the tax rate on everybody, assuming the costs are evenly distributed. you can't lower the cost of production to much. To do so lowers profits, tax receipts, and wages overall. people only need so many goods. Beyond that, what do they do?
Hear! Hear! >>6344418
Yeah, I have to agree.
>>6344431
The care free days of youth... I'd so love them again. <3
>>6344435
not an option.
>>6344404
tyranny is the only form of government thats even worse than democracy.
>>6344433
Oh, I'll be fine. I'm just grumpy and angry. Cyclical depression means that I go through this pretty regularly. A few people who know me well have joked that I go on my period and blah blah blah...
I actually could just walk over to a friends house, let myself in (dumbass hides the house key under a flowerpot) and spend a few hours laughing at him playing Dark Souls 3, (and maybe crushing even harder on him... damn my brain, he's a taken man!) but I don't have the motivation to do so.
>>6344437
Hi Sas-
Saas.
?
>>6344440
I think it would be for the best if you actually tried to succeed this time
>>6344437
Bonjour!
>>6344443
aww :c
iktf
i feel so horribly low on certain days then actually ok on others
I've been sick the last few days and now my skin is turning to fucking shit.
I'm getting really, really upset about this.
>>6344447
>US is more corporatist than capitalist atm
Corporatocratic, sure. Corporatist, no.
>>6344450
>Corporatocratic
Yeah that's the right word
thanks
>>6344449
ive heard people say the best way to help skin is too put a new shirt over your pillow every night, apparently the oils in your pillow stack up a lot and is really unhealthy for your skin.
>>6344441
>This lowers the overall size of the economy, and increases the tax rate on everybody, assuming the costs are evenly distributed. you can't lower the cost of production to much. To do so lowers profits, tax receipts, and wages overall. people only need so many goods. Beyond that, what do they do?
I don't mean to insult you but that's not how economy works. Technology constantly lowers the cost of production of most goods. This certainly doesn't hurt the economy.
>>6344454
>shirt
As in, pillow cover? Or actually a shirt? Because that would be really uncomfortable (unless it wasn't my shirt...)
>>6344447
democracy is the second WORST
the best would be a council of scholars that dont actually want power
after that it goes
monarchy
aristocracy
the bad ones are
Oligarchy
Timocracy
Democracy
Tyranny
>>6344441
France still doesn't apply any of the EU rulings on trans rights. French trans women who want to bank sperm go to private banks abroad.
And well, I guess age isn't a barrier to being carefree. Self-consciousness and respectability are. I think I could throw that out of the window without losing much.
morning
I over plucked my eyebrows last night and now I really look like a tranny
>>6344454
>trying to give skincare tips to basic
>>6344459
a new pillow cover works, a shirt is just easy and theres usually plenty of them around
>>6344460
idk, would a society dominated by a hereditary position be good?
>>6344460
>the best would be a council of scholars that dont actually want power
Which is not going to happen, now more than ever.
I need to finish doing the dishes
>>6344466
It can be at least
>>6344468
obviously not. the masses are too easy to manipulate.
>>6344465
Preddy cool.
I'll have to do that.
(I swear though. I was livid coming home. How the fuck do you call someone with enough facial hair to challenge a gorilla "miss". I know that I walk like a girl, I know I hold myself like a girl, but come on! look at me for gods' sakes.)
>>6344410
if the product is still worth the increased cost, the consumer will buy it, if it's not they'll find an ancillary good, and in all cases the goods created by immigrant/refugee labor would be cheaper imported. Most these industries are therefor also protected and subsidized on top of all this.
the last point is, by keeping this capital tied up in lower skill job, and suppressing that capital from being used to create better economically competitive jobs, it hinders real wage growth and expansion of the middle class.
wanna talk good skincare? use a pair of exfoliating gloves in the shower with ivory soap
>>6344454
Well, if you're already using silk covers to avoid damaging your hair, that would be a bit impractical unless you have a lot of money...
>>6344469
yeah
If you have a good leader
but what if a really bat shit leader comes into power? At least in a democracy they can be voted out, in a monarchy they're in that position for life
>>6344460
What's stopping any of these groups from claiming absolute power if there's no one to check them
>>6344481
ask pol, this is a tranny thread
i vote to keep mtfg politics free
Im going to go get some sleep
good luck to all the people i spoke to who are feeling shitty
niiight
>>6344460
>Aristocracy
You know, I used to not believe the "mtfs" are autistic meme..
>>6344418
>and yes I'm talking about like how I feel, and how I see edie, blair white, ufufu talk about how their dysphoria has "changed" I almost feel like, maybe what I'm feeling is the effects of sexual objectification.
idk desu. I kinda always figured that if/when dysphoria was mostly dealt with through transition most trans women developed similar issues around body image as cis women do (if not already present pre/during transition), which would seem to support that kinda theory?
I really don't know. No personal experience with those feelings and I don't know how you/other people feel about this stuff so hard to talk about.
>like there's a lot of it
Yeah, not doubting that at all. The objectification is definitely there and effects all trans women to some extent I'm sure.
>>6344434
why read a thread based on a shitty discredited theory?
>tfw finally sleepy again.
this >>6344450
>>6344455
actually it does. When you lower the cost of production by lowering the cost of the work force needed to produce, you reduce the buying power of the workforce, thus reducing the size of the economy.
>>6344483
>I can't even begin to tell you how wrong that is
lol fuck you, nothing wrong with using exfoliating gloves
>>6344477
Well, looking at history, those usually get assassinated pretty fast. Making "for life" sometimes shorter than "until the next election."
>>6344460
>the best would be a council of scholars that dont actually want power
I don't think this would lead to much good on it's own but it could be a key component of a nice and functional society. The thing is that any isolated group of people will have hard time grasping the realities and aspirations of those outside their group and desperate/poor people feeling detached from their ruling class generally leads to shitty things.
>>6344486
Nini! I think i'll follow suit after I make myself some dinner.
>>6344481
Technofags can never answer that question because literally there isn't. The Republic is literally the bronze age equivalent of some self-important nerd thinking he should be in charge and everything would be solved, which is very obviously a bad idea from actually reading The Republic's less general theory parts.
>>6344484
Isn't this /polgbt/
>>6344434
I mean can you sum up how you see it? I think what I saw was more "I already have internalized ideas from sexual objectification of women and dysphoria and it's hard to combine the two"
\
>>6344488
>why read a thread based on a shitty discredited theory?
Because it gives a lot of insight into the various experiences people had, including people who actually do get turned on by such thoughts but also feel dysphoria.
>>6344490
No gloves are fine, if you have the right ones and use the right things with them.
Ivory soap. Wtf.
>>6344475
...or buy silk pillowcases in bulk.
i need to do that again. i can't find mine. I had a bunch, but they went missing when I moved from Minneapolis.
>With that, to bed with me.,..
>>6344498
>people who actually do get turned on by such thoughts but also feel dysphoria.
I think you don't understand the theory if you think they're mutually incompatible in the theory itself. AGP is a cause of dysphoria, not separate from it. Blanchard didn't believe in trutrans, he just felt like a fetish explained why it wasn't just the faggiest twinks who transitioned.
>>6344499
because its gentle and not full of chemicals
>>6344504
>she doesn't use body wash for all her soap needs
>>6344497
Corporatocratic =/= Capitalism
>>6344504
>not full of chemicals
Does that matter when you use water to wash yourself? Water is a chemical you know.
>>6344506
It's literally what it is. Capitalism is not independent from bourgeois power, it's inherently tied to it. The capitalist class runs the show and always has since the 18th century revolutions.
>>6344509
Nope
Corporatocratic is opposed to inherently capitalist values such as competition
They destroy small business and other competitors.
>>6344504
>Soap
>Gentle
Actually, soap is much harsher than the chemicals found in other hygiene products. That's what makes it useful. Because even with dedication, it's only a matter of time before you get clogged pores when you only ever use gentler products. But just like shampoo, soap every day is a really bad idea.
>>6344510
That's why you use the gloves numb nuts. Just a little bit of a gentle soap and the gloves is all you need for good skin. No need to scrub yourself like a tugboat covered in barnacles.
>>6344500
Gnite
>>6344517
>No need to scrub yourself like a tugboat covered in barnacles.
>>6344477
if all else fails, vote from the rooftops.
I am a fan of one of the roman solutions to that though
>>6344481
nothing. if youre strong enough to claim absolute power, you deserve it
>>6344484
this is not a democracy nerd
>>6344487
that was platos interpretation, not mine. I dislike aristrocacies.
also, I am insane, not autistic though.
>>6344517
My head hurts from reading this. You told me your skin is shit before, what changed?
>>6344503
I understood the theory and what you're saying is right. I find the theory suspect for many reasons which you probably already know of since you knew enough to write that post. What I found interesting is that on the surface you have people who fit Blanchard's classical description fairly well but if you delve into the details you see many of them additionally also exhibit a more classic trans narrative including pre-puberty non-sexual experiences. I've read some theories that the whole AGP thing is the end result of repressing by trying to cast your desires as merely a fetish via sexual objectification, possibly absorbed from culture.
>>6344520
I'm gonna assuming that means assassination.
Though to be fair, constitutional monarchies aren't too bad, especially as it can be a check against tyranny
>>6344521
my skin is actually really fucking nice now
I meant my skin is shit in the sense I am ginger and hrt made all my freckles worse.
>>6344513
I'm having a look around and someone wrote a thesis that seems to cover this but the text isn't available through my uni.
Examining the relationship between internalized misogyny, self-objectification and self-efficacy among cisgender and transgender women
Gartler, Holly A.. Alliant International University, ProQuest Dissertations Publishing, 2015. 3704112.
Also know someone irl who has studied gender/sex/queer stuff a ton. Might ask her about this at some point.
>>6344509
That is an oligarchy my friend resulting from an exploitation of said capitalism
>>6344517
>>6344400
i want u to live tho :(
>>6344402
good morning! what's up?
>>6344409
heya anon! we're u the one from akon the other day or someone else?
OK, so three flamewars at once. One about Plato, one about Blanchard and one about... soap. /mtfg/, never change...
Also, I'm not yet decided on whether having a cat sleep between my legs whenever I dilate is cute or creepy. She seems to like it, though. Cats are pervs.
>>6344529
Free market capitalism inevitably becomes an oligarchy.
>>6344535
Is there an ideology that does not eventually become an oligarchy?
>>6344520
>That's some real Machiavellian thinking
So you would have no problem with tyranny
>tfw cass won't go lesbian with me
>>6344533
Eh.
Just being grumpy and cleaning my room.
>>6344528
pizzaslut has qualifications, maybe a good person to ask too
>>6344540
not at all.
as long it is powerful enough I am okay.
the only thing I absolutely dislike is weakness.
>>6344525
but then you have to deal with parliaments again.
>>6344551
>tfw too poor to afford new system so never could play fallout 4
>>6344510
>Can I just like, make you a skincare plan?
Yes please.
Also, is it true that safety razors are better for your skin than cartridge razors?
(horrible wording rephrased >>6344551)
>>6344543
I don't even know if it was possible to fuck up relationships in 4. Easy carpet munching for me I guess.
>>6344554
>Not knowing any vidya but pokemon
I don't have moneys for 3ds :(
>>6344556
ymmv afaik
>>6344552
Stop ignoring my attentionwhoring! >:(
>>6344552
>the only thing I absolutely dislike is weakness.
Aren't you admittedly weak yourself? Both mentally and physically. How does that work?
Do you think your self hatred influenced your political opinions?
>>6344552
yeah problem with democracies is that they are slow
Am I being filtered, or what?!!
Nobody is paying attention to me and my HPD is acting up!
>MFW no one pays attention to sass
>>6344535
I think you mean laissez faire capitalism leads to oligarchs. In theory no one controls the free market capitalism.
>>6344573
Sassysnack~
>>6344559
only pokemon games are red and blue imo
also pokemon snap was pretty cash
>>6344569
To be fair, you can hate an aspect in a state, but want it in a person.
>>6344533
Naw that's not me
>>6344573
Not filtering you :>
>>6344574
The problem is laissez faire free market capitalism is not real.
Once oligarchs gain competitive advantage, they squash competition and innovation and pressure governments for special treatment.
>>6344573
noooooooo I was in the bath I'm here now what's been happening?
who /lazy/ here?
>>6344587
Who /wants to smack kit's butt/ here?
>>6344587
I could be getting ahead on work but I've been listening to music in the bath for like 2 hours so yeah I'm being hella lazy rn and I love it
>>6344587
pretty lazy
barely work in school
>>6344587
Deep down I'm lazy but I'm too busy to live a lazy lifestyle :/
what is your best feature mtfg?
i think mines my legs
>>6344599
>I'm not a fetishist
>>6344602
so wanting to feel good about ones self is a fetish?
>>6344599
who wears that while lounging
>>6344605
they are comfy though
>>6344603
>>6344566
s-sorry
I am busy with the dishes
Ilu tho <3
>>6344569
exactly. because I am weak as fuck, I need a powerful state to protect me (or cleanse me)
>Do you think your self hatred influenced your political opinions?
yes, very strongly.
>>6344571
and inconsistent.
>>6344552
You're very interesting, I thought your Nazism was you messing around, but you are a fascist. Maybe you are memeing with the Nazi stuff but the fascism is real
>>6344618
Well, now that you know that, I'd mention that it doesn't make her a bad person. Just an interesting one.
>>6344556
I actually don't know if one is better than the other. The main things that causes problems with shaving are either;
- not exfoliating before the shave
or
-Using shaving foam/gel to shave instead of oil.
I'd be happy to help if you have any skin related questions. I'm not as knowledgeable as some other people here but the topic doesn't come up enough for people to be able to ask the right people.
>>6344618
I dont consider myself a fascist though.
it doesnt matter what kind of government rules to me. if its strong enough, Ill respect it. Fascist governments just tend to be strong and expansionist, but I also like the Kaiserreich (despite the parliaments) for example or the US under Kennedy
>>6344637
What exactly do you mean by strong?
>>6344637
>I dont consider myself a fascist though.
Huh. Are you just a Might-Makes-Rightist then?
>go to hospital
>desk staff think i'm signing in on behalf of my husband due to the 'Mr' on the letter
>explain i'm a tranny
>ahh so awkward
>they update my details correctly right then and there, no problem
>gendered female constantly
>this is not what i expected, this is ok
>see different endo than i was expecting
>the endo doesn't care about my intersex stuff but he'll look at my medical history and treat it separately to my GID so it won't interfere
>he says the important thing is continuing transition and getting a prescription
>he used to be a trans clinic endo and says I'm doing everything right, hormone levels are good
>says I'm a good girl
>says he will write to my clinic, telling them to give me an appointment in the next two months and start me on a script straight away
>says if things go well with the clinic i could expect SRS in 8 months at the earliest
>books me in for more blood tests
>does a physical examination
>a Nigerian man is trying to find my ovotestes by applying pressure to my abdomen until they pop out
>this is so weird
>he squeezes them and feels them
>"Does this hurt?"
>say back in high pitched tranny Arnie voice "I FEEL NAAATHING"
>his face when
Here's a selfie
Enjoyyyy
>>6344637
Russia under Stalin technically had a "strong government", but it was still shit tier to live there.
A country needs a combination of a strong government + a morally superior disposition in order to be acceptable imo.
Well. Looks like my palette is limited to powder foundation, concealer, neutral eyeshadow, light eyeliner, and anything I can play off as not actually being there. For however much longer I'm stuck in this job.
Going to have to become a pro with bronzer.
Who else here making the most of a job she hates?
>>6344637
that's Machiavellian thinking and come on you're a fascist
>tfwywn see blaire white's feet
>>6344646
Well, that went well!
Congrats!
>>6344647
You silly pretty bitch ilu
>>6344646
Seems you were anxious over nothing, glad it went well.
>>6344657
<3 you're prettier you beautiful bitchface
>>6344653
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>6344646
Top tier keks were had
I love y'all
>>6344653
>having a job
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>6344646
you have ovaries?
>>6344679
just go get a job. Even if you have to make sacrifices. I'm fulltime guy mode because of mine.
>>6344646
i'm confused. do you have anything in yuor ball sack?
>>6344679
Not even trying, huh?
>>6344646
That's wonderful! Congratulations on a successful medical appointment.
>>6344642
reasonably strong (economically, politically, culturally, diplomatically) for its own size/base of power compared to other powers.
>>6344645
definitely. I dont believe in morality. its just an exploitable concept, never an objective truth.
>>6344648
I admire Stalin. not exactly where I would have wanted to live, but I cant help but respect his achievements.
>>6344654
I dunno, I dont think so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>6344682
Its not easy to get work out here. I even did an interveiw for fucking Home Depot and they didn't hire me because it was for a lot attendant and I couldn't "help" people load their vehicles with bags of cement and other heavy shit. Messed up part is I was a contractor and they didn't have an opening in consulting so I could help people inside the store with their projects. I do have an interview with a telemarketing place so I might get it because the manager is my dads friend.
>>6344684
<333!!!
>>6344681
she's intersex
>>6344631
Hm, ok.
I didn't have any specific questions in mind really.
It's just that I know very little about skincare, but I wanna learn more and start a good routine and stuff, but I'm not sure where to start.
>>6344688
Yeah, I agree that you're not a fascist. Fascism is more than just authoritarianism and strong-arming.
>>6344688
I can agree with economically and culturally and diplomatically but not sure about politically. If by that you mean a big government then I don't like that idea but if you mean a stable govt. then I like that
>>6344688
>I admire Stalin
he would have treated you like a fucking kulak
satlin was a piece of shit murderer
>>6344685
not normally no, they're just kinda up there. he had to push and tease them down with his fingers and then after having a poke, they went back up from whence they came. god i still feel weird.
>>6344697
Hey
he got things done
without him his country would've almost certainly fell to the axis
>mfw Kayla is the biggest failure on this board and it's all his fault
>>6344700
And if it had fell then Hitler would have only had one front to fight and would have one and we would all be in space right now because after the Nazis would have conqured the planet they would set sights on full scientific advancement regardless of the human cost. Sure some people would be horribly experimented on but by the 1970's they would have cured cancer, GID, and probably even death via brains in robot bodies.
Someone was asking for Basic's skincare routine?
I have it saved somewhere if they still want it...
>>6344704
A disgusting lazy piece of shit like you would not last a day in that society
>>6344703
I'm not in,
not in, not in love with youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
>>6344704
>Hitler conquering Earth
nope
Hitler couldn't even cross the English channel, what makes you think that they'd conquer the world?
And you're crazy if you think the nazis were so scientifically advanced they could do all that shit.
>>6344703
I just finished another degree yesterday, I own my own vehicles, I have skills, I am trying. I am not a failure, I am a work in progress.
>>6344704
Hitler didn't even want to conquer the planet.
>>6344599
FINALLY.
also that pic is cropped I swear ¬_¬
>>6344712
>I just finished another degree yesterday
You're full of shit and you know that
>>6344712
You have worthless 'degrees' spread over random crap that make you look like shit to employers
>>6344716
I swear on my life I did. I had to fill out 200 fucking questions on a fucking scantron and do an essay
>>6344719
What was this degree in?
>>6344693
/r/skincareaddiction is actually fantastic for this. It's tough to say what will work for you specifically, but I'll give you a quick rundown of my routine tho.
-oil cleanse, I use mineral oil. Basically yeah, a cleanse but using oil instead because it's better for the skin than most advertised cleansers.
-niacinamide, which I get from a cleansing water.
- Vit C serum. You can buy premade, or make yourself. Though if you make it yourself you'll get about 2 years worth for the same as a few months premade. It's the only thing that's really been proven to promote collagen production over a long period of time.
-BHA exfoliant, (beta hydroxy acid), I use stridex. For exfoliating the top layers of skin.
-AHA exfoliant, (alpha hydroxy acid) I use Paula;s choice. This is for deeper exfoliation. Bonus if you are having laser, this stuff is insane for getting those annoying stuck hairs out.
-Hyaluronic acid. Hada labo. As well as this it sucks the moisture out of the air. I'd only recommend if you're in a place with humidity above 70%. Otherwise you either wont see a benefit or it''l dry out your skin.
-emollient, Cetaphil. Just slather it on and let that bitch moisturise.
And seal it all in with vaseline.
Also sunscreen every day. Rain or shine. And reapplied every few hours.
>>6344717
why do you even care? If I am so worthless in your opinion then anything about my life should be moot.
>>6344460
>the best would be a council of scholars that dont actually want power
Technocracy is the term you're looking for and I agree. It doesn't guarantee a good society on its own but it's a vital component and remarkably overlooked in the western world. China is probably the most notable example.
See: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Chinese-political-leaders-have-engineering-degrees-whereas-their-American-counterparts-have-law-degrees
The UK Green Party are deeply supportive of the concept too which is one of the reasons they've always had my vote. They want to scrap the House of Lords (lawmakers currently selected on the basis of aristocratic heritage) with a house of technical experts in all major areas- scientists, engineers, etc.; very good stuff.
>>6344481
Flexibility is key, it's what holds hope for China in the future. They had a one-child policy because they needed it. Now they don't need it so they're relaxing it. The most dangerous force isn't one party having power rather than another, it's a system that is resistant to change, such as the current blockage regarding UK electoral reform.
Also, whatever you think of capitalism can we at least all agree Reagan/Thatcher 's neoliberalism has completely failed society at this point?
>>6344719
Top fucking kek. Can an ameriburger confirm this is how you do university level exams in the US
>>6344694
my political views are more complicated as well tho.
>>6344695
I mean stable. big government isnt necessarily a good thing
>>6344697
whats your point?
>>6344727
this, lmao
>>6344688
Same, but he starved way too many of his citizens to death with his commie agricultural policies, just like Mao did. He also didn't value the lives of his troops very much during ww2.
If you have a leftist society with a strong leftist government, it will still be shit tier.
>>6344731
then I agree with you
strong nations are respectable
mine isn't as strong as it can be atm :/
>>6344725
Because you have had every opportunity to succeed in life handed to you and you've fucked it all up by spending your entire adult life trolling tranny boards.
>look in mirror
>total angular thick-jawed man face no even 1% feminine
>19.5 inch shoulders
>nearly b-cup tits still visible if I hunch forwards and getting big enough to offset my torso breadth
>increasingly qt and feminine midriff, totally crop-top-worthy
>tfw you accidentally become a genderfucked freak of nature
JUST
>>6344737
There's nothing cute about you and there never will be. Enough.
>>6344712
move out of state.
I am planning on leaving in a few months if I can't get a job here. I plan on coming back but fuck California's job market is shit. I work for my aunt a little on the side, but even that is starting to suck. I have a job lined up in Arizona though and it was just confirmed I had it over the weekend.
But it is easy to get a job outside of Commiefornia, the hard part is getting set up. This is where I am lucky as fuck. I have a cousin who lives in Phoenix and my dad and his best friend are buying a house in phoenix because of all the shitty gun laws California is enacting. I am going to live there rent free and only have to pay for utilities. Still, I am going to work on seeing if I can get my cousin up in seattle to help me move there instead because phoenix really fucking blows.
I rather stay in california though so I can save up money living with my parents and working. Besides I am going to need to stay with my parents for three months next year anyways since I would most likely need to be recovering from srs.
>>6344740
>Oh there's too many students in this university class so let's just hand them a 200 question multiple choice pop quiz for their degree
You need to stop
>>6344724
>I use mineral oil.
Wait, really? Like the stuff you'd find in a hardware store?
>>6344706
I wouldn't mind it, mine rn is a bit
ghetto
>>6344751
Basic posted it...
>>6344691
That doesn't mean she does.
>it's another mildly autistic episode featuring keith
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3631245/Richard-Simmons-living-woman-named-Fiona-taken-hormones-breast-surgery.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailceleb
Lmao
>>6344749
It wasn't for the degree, that came from an accumulation of classes. You are thinking about a test for a cert. When I took the solidworks professional exam there was tons of math and complex solid modeling problems to fix and there were no multiple choice questions.
>>6344748
I still want to move to the northwest but I can't leave the state until I finish electro and get all my papers changed.
>>6344756
I hit post when basic's post had just been posted but nothing happened until just now :/
>>6344737
hey welcome to me my entire childhood and life
>>6344764
>basic's post
fuck
your post, not basic's
actually nevermind just pretend I said nothing
>>6344733
mine isnt even a nation state
>tfw German lands have never been united
>>6344732
well the policies were failures, but despite that, the SU was at least number 2 in the world for a long time.
>He also didn't value the lives of his troops very much during ww2.
pawns dont matter in a total war scenario
>>6344763
yeah I totally understand that part. My Portland plans got scrubbed, but Phoenix was always my back up and now it looks like it will happen. However, I am going back to Seattle in a few weeks and maybe if I sob enough my cousin will take pitty on me and help me.
At least give me a place to crash until I get a job and room mates lol. But who really knows and either way I still have to come home to my parents in a year to recover from srs if I get it. I am still planning on getting it and I have an appointment to get the last letter in a few hours today.
Also the lgbt center of LA has a better clinic than the place you are going to.
>>6344760
>he is considering have a 'vagina built by doctors'.
I want doctors to build me a vagina.
I'm not sure how to take this desu
>tfw kayla admits she wants your girlfriend to top her
why is literally everyone either in love or in lust with faye omg
like shit i'm obviously lucky af but who doesn't or hasn't had a crush on her desu
>tfw your sister was born extremely beautiful
>tfw born in a boys body
>>6344780
Hooray another hon
>>6344772
uhh
didn't they unite with the Kaiserreich
or if you want to include Austria
under Hitler?
>>6344787
The Swiss Germans were never under either of those, though.
>>6344782
>like shit i'm obviously lucky af but who doesn't or hasn't had a crush on her desu
me
Then again I am weird. Although I had a crush on you at one point.
>>6344783
>tfw no sister
well at least I don't have anyone to compare to make me dysphoric
no one to teach me how to be a girl though ;_;
>it's a "have to go outside" day
>>6344782
POST YOUR FEET
>>6344750
Oh God no. Like baby oil.
>>6344783
hey look you're me
>>6344790
Forgot about them
>>6344782
I don't! Lol
You kicked ass yesterday, girl! Congrats.
>>6344793
worst day
>>6344792
>tfw my sister used to dress me up as a girl
she doesn't like me at all now tho, she doens't know im trans either
>>6344797
;~; you understand me claire
>>6344800
No one dressed me up as girl ;_;
>>6344784
>Sure they have, if you count the HRE as united.
pretty sure TOlands were never part of the HRE but I am inept in middle age stuff.
DANZIG
IST
DEUTSCH!
>>6344787
lacked the netherlands and the swiss
>>6344800
>tfw my sisters didn't even dress themselves up
both were total tomboys
>>6344784
If engineers designed vaginas, they would have integrated it into the anus.
>>6344790
>TFW swiss germans.
>>6344791
>.<
it's too bad you aren't going to see trumps inauguration speech
>>6344791
MELLY
W H A T
>>6344794
n-no
>>6344799
t-thanks sassy ^__^ i had lots of fun talking to blaire. she's actually a really nice girl idk. i'm happy i made a new friend.
>>6344809
>n-no
yes
post feet now or ill hack u
>>6344802
i'm sorry anon
if its any consolation, she only did it till i was about 10 or 11 and then, she said it was really weird and stopped doing it
>>6344806
oh ;_;
are they nice tho??
>>6344809
Why did you not ask blaire to post her feet?
>>6344805
Do the Dutch count as German?
>>6344799
Sass if you admit it, I promise if me and edie break up to find you, and fuck you into with an inch of your life in a way that will leave you fullfilled saited and oddly confused as to how your body managed to last that long
top
or bottom
or both
>>6344783
>tfw your mother was a 9/10 in her youth
>she dated a lead singer from a major rock band in the 70s
>they named a famous song after her
>tfw she got a degree from cal-tech at the age of 20
>tfw she worked for nasa for 15 years
>tfw she was part of the team at helped design and build mars pathfinder rover
>tfw she worked on the space shuttle
And I am a loser compared to her.
>>6344809
idk I never crushed on feye. Maybe it is because i seldom ever post here anymore or that I figured she was out of my league.
>>6344775
Well the place I go to has a new location right next to USC and has an entire office for helping with name and gender change paperwork. Besides that I am getting my hrt now from my new general physician and blood tests from a womans clinic out here in the IE
>>6344796
Oh, ok. That makes more sense.
Thanks for posting your routine! I'll have to look into using the things you mentioned.
Also, is the routine you posted just for your face? What do you do for the skin on the rest of your body?
>>6344812
yeah, both are p supportive
I'm really close with the older of the two, even after coming out : 3
>>6344816
yes. germanic culture, germanic language, former part of the HRE. they get called swamp germans a lot and stuff.
>>6344783
>tfw ur sister is basically better than you in every way
>tfw she's also not a fucking tranny
>>6344810
>>6344814
what is with you feet anons?!?!
i wasn't gonna ask blaire to do that tf lmao!!
>>6344818
o so i'm in ur league is that it?! I'M EASY?! I SEE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT MELLY. I'M A FLOOZY IT'S FINE
>>6344812
;-;
that's a shame
but at least it happened
Maybe if I dressed as a girl back then I could've realized earlier
>>6344824
>Swamp Germans
wow, that's so rude
I'm part Dutch ;_;
>>6344818
In 2004 mom got an award for being a successful female business owner and shillarly and opera were there, plus she used to model for a surf company in the 80's. I'm such a loser compared to her.
>>6344827
Send her a quick message now and ask her to post them, it's not too late to redeem yourself
>>6344826
i know that feel elanna ;~;
>>6344828
mb, but it didn't help me much. i really enjoyed it at the time and it felt so right for me, but when my sister decided it was weird and that i should stop, it really put me in a weird place. pretty much made me try to really move into doing guy stuff when i was a lot more fem when i was younger. idk.
>>6344823
that's really cute !!! i wish my sister and i got along more.
>>6344826
>tfw trannies make up 1% of the population and you had to be the faggot of the family
>>6344809
Lol! Blair is funny but her discourse is literally the poo on the toast.
>>6344826
>tfw she also studies psychology in vienna
>tfw despite all of this, she is MADLY fond of you and you have a great relationship
it kinda sucks sometimes
muh feeleros
>>6344840
>1%
its way less.
>>6344833
youre not dutch tho.
and thats what some of them call themselves, I dont think its too rude :3
>>6344835
kayla that's totally not fair
you're a loser compared to everyone
>>6344844
I got the sickest air award at a redbull event though
>>6344839
yeah I was a bit fem as a kid too
but I had a lot of friends who were girls
but then they stopped liking me or something so I hung out with them and tried boy activities, some I liked and some I never caught onto
I'm still kinda boyish because of it
>>6344826
>tfw you sister is a bitch, fatter than you and got all the ugly genes.
whelp I at least won at something. Well she disowned me and my parents so I guess i win by default
>o so i'm in ur league is that it?! I'M EASY?! I SEE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT MELLY. I'M A FLOOZY IT'S FINE
>Maybe it is because i seldom ever post here anymore or that I figured she was out of my league.
It was the former with you. I think you are way prettier than I am, but like I talked to you a lot more back in the day so I kind of crushed a little on you. But you were strictly into men at the time so I never thought anything would come of it.
>>6344835
kek
;_:
she also had a kid at the age of 18.
Like seriously, my mother basically blew out everyone I ever known in everything. Well she lacks common sense some how and is very controling. I don't understand it.
>tfw no money for school and I need an education to get a job
Setting up a normie life sure is hard. Maybe tomorrow when I wake up someone has dropped a brick of gold into my mailbox or something. Well, even a 10th of a brick would do...
>>6344782
>who doesn't or hasn't had a crush on her desu
I don't crush easily so that'd be a no from me. Not that I really know much about her but from the little I do she sounds like a top tier girl so grats ^^
>>6344826
>tfw no sister to learn being a girl from
>>6344822
That's for face, neck and décolletage. I don't really use anything on my body desu besides BHA on my back. Hrt just kind of works for me. I used to have horrific acne on my back chest and shoulders which left me riddled with scars. It looks fucking awful. But at least I wont get new ones.
>>6344826
iktf ;~;
>>6344783
Kittu, I'm sorry. I know what it's like.
>>6344843
You make me imagine the Dutch as little shreks running around
>>6344851
>Well she lacks common sense some how and is very controling. I don't understand it.
same
>>6344847
who cares
>>6344859
you cared enough to call me a loser
I bet you don't even have a drivers license.
>>6344862
I'm a different anon shitstain. And who the fuck doesn't have a driver's license?
>>6344862
>everyone needs a drivers license
woopdy fucking doo
you can pass a drivers test
It's not that hard desu
>>6344866
i don't
but i live in a city so i don't need it
>>6344868
You're different. You're not worthless
>>6344867
Says the person too poor to own a car.
>>6344872
I thought you were the poor one?
>>6344872
I'm not poor wtf you talking about?
>>6344873
>lucky
Terrible, I wanna die
Cure when?
>>6344879
>Cure
I don't want to be "cured". I want to be female.
>>6344880
they want the same thing retard
they mean "when can i be bio"
neither you ever can though
Goodnight everyone <3
Especially that one qt
A very sincere goodnight to you miss qt
>>6344880
A cure could be making you fully female
>50% of the population is female and you had to be the other
>>6344874
its complicated, my assets aren't liquid
>>6344880
I wish I wanted to be male. cis guys have it so much easier
>>6344840
iktf
>>6344885
Goodnight Claire.
Which qt are you talking abut?
Hillary won California, now its up to super delegates which means it's probably over. -_-
Do you really want Hillary Vs Trump you sheep?
>>6344840
I feel like a special snowflake. :3
>unironically supporting Comrade Sanders
>especially after yesterday
Wew lad. Came here for a fap, got a kek instead.
Start preparing yourself for Joe "sniff lolis every day to make my boner stay" Biden as the nominee. All of you.