Trans Help General #113

Can anybody give some advice on the actual mechanics of ordering mons over the internet? I've decided to go through with it and my options are basically limited to QHI. But now that I'm here there are some things I'm unsure and anxious about with regards to payment and shipping and shit.

Also, they have cypro and spiro for AAs and estradiol hemihydrate, conjugated estrogens and estradiol valerate for estrogens. I'm going with spiro but honestly know basically nothing about deciding between estrogens. Is there a resource somewhere for that?

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What are some nice gender-neutral haircuts?

>>6313011
Ponytail is GOAT.

>>6313018
What about those with bad hairlines?

>>6313072
Finasteride.

>>6313079
But I'm not balding.

>>6313072
Keep the bangs, just ponytail the back.

>>6313090
If that were true then your hairline would be fine.

>>6313128
Shit genetics, yo.

Is 26 too late?

>>6313190
For what?

>>6313200
to start?

>>6313207
To start what?

>>6313212
MTF-transition

>>6313213
Definitely not. You can start whenever you like.

>>6313222
Is a good first step finding a counselor/specialist that deals with this?

>>6313230
Yes. In most countries you either need to or should speak to a therapist or counselor. Finding one who specializes makes it a whole lot easier, because many therapists don't know shit about it.

>>6313230
Yes.

If they don't ask about pronouns and preferred names on the first visit, then find another therapist.

>>6313230
Yes, and ideally look for someone who specializes in dealing with issues related to gender/sexuality (you can call and ask if the therapist has relevant experience).

>>6313256
This is kinda bad advice, many therapists with limited experience treating trans patients may not ask this immediately but can still be perfectly good therapists.

>>6314030
A good therapist and a good gender-specialized therapist is two different things. I have a good therapist but she hasn't helped me in much regard with my gender identity.

I've always felt like I've had an identity crisis, since I was young. I kinda thought it was because my family moved around a lot, so I could barely get to know the people around me in school, but I've realized it was my gender identity that's been getting to me all this time. I don't think I feel like a man or a woman, I feel like- like a thing, kinda. Like, a rock or a mailbox, or a fruit roll-up maybe. The only thing I've ever had any sexual attraction to in my life was a dukes of hazard wristwatch, which I had a pseudo-intimate relationship with when I was 11. What do I do? How do I know what I am? I'm not a fag, am I? Thx in advance

>>6314102

Asexual? Honestly, sexuality and and gender identity come in shade of grey anon. You can't really box yourself up, even though people will label you. I can't really tell you who you are, you just need to get out and know yourself.

Well, something else that's strange, once my adopted gender neutral child (3 yrs old, gender fluid) sat on my lap, and I got quite the chubber. Maybe I'm just into kids?

>>6314102
I don't say this often, but I think tumblr might be more your speed.
You're identifying as a fucking fruit roll-up and your sexuality would best be described as pοyoiphilia.

Hey, this probably doesnt go here and im sorry but, if i wasn't trans but i did want to be castrated [spoiler]and then get prosthetic implants[/spoiler] what kind of requirements would there be for an elective orchiectomy in the us?

>>6314184
When I dream, I'm a deep red with spots of green. I'm long and thin- unrolled and peeled. Scented, fruity. I wake up, and I long for what I just felt. I don't know what it means, or if I could ever possibly pursue it in the real world. It hurts, hurts real god damned bad. I came here because I'm scared, and I thought some like minded mailboxes could help me out. Every time someone belittles my identity, It feels like I'm being ripped apart, chewed up, and swallowed. It hurts.

>>6314202
Just go to Taiwan.

>>6314227
why taiwan?

>>6314256
You can get a surgeon there to do whatever you want without a bribe in the six digits.

>>6314132
>>6314184
this person is just trolling, like I'm pretty sure I might be one of those genderqueer meme genders but look at this shit
>>6314102
>>6314161
>>6314209

>>6314365
So because what I am is unusual, I become invalid? Maybe I'm not a mailbox like some of you guys, but I am a mailbox, nonetheless.

>>6314415
pol retard kill yourself

>>6314436
I can't I'm A FRUIT FUCKING ROLL UP

>>6314444
Quad 4s... can't argue with that.
Fruit roll up is now a gender.

Am I not really trans if I want to be an anime girl?

>>6314464
I hereby declare myself, under trans law, Demi-Foxkin Fruit by the Foot Strawberry. I can now live free, having been liberated from the shackles and bounds of cys scum labels. *unravels*

I came out to some of my less accepting friends recently and they were actually pretty cool with it. Most of them hate trans people because of the awful #triggered side of the community. The thing is one of them keeps calling me Mrs. Doubtfire which was kinda funny at first but is now killing me on the inside. I don't want to say anything because then they might start thinking I'm 'one of those trannies'. What do?

>>6314680
Tell them you're a fruit roll up

>>6314680
Suggest other names for them to call you by which they might like better.

>>6314680
find a way to banter back

>>6314680
Be honest, they no doubt already think you're a little bonkers for choosing to do this so they'll probably understand if you're a little particular about it. If they don't then you need to stop associating with people who don't respect you.

I'm really lonely. Why am I so fucking lonely. Everytime I'm left alone I start texting people or start bugging them on steam but it never yields anything and I end up wanting to kill myself at 4am every few nights. Doesn't help that I actually hate myself.

>>6315263
where are u from? I am always lonely too

How do i find a transgender friendly place to get my hair cut?

>>6316156
find some tranny hipster to do it for you

>>6316279
wow, so helpful. anyone actually want to help me? is there a list of places somewhere?

>>6316156
Find most liberal area of nearest big city. Maybe gay neighborhood. Find a hair salon there.

>>6316307
if you want people to help you don't act like an entitled shit

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>Started on hormones yesterday.
>Super depressed yesterday night, feeling like it's possible I made a huge mistake but that stopping could also be a huge mistake.
>Feeling a bit better today.
>Sitting around and suddenly get a "phantom breast" feeling - like I can feel them growing right there.
>Snap out of it.
>Not sure whether it made me feel better or worse.

What is my life anymore?

Inb4 "You idiot, you don't get breast growth that fast!" - I'm aware of that, it was just a spontaneous feeling. I know that nothing's actually happening yet (for better or worse).

>>6318217

Keep going

when you get glorious hormone tits regrets will go away kek

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Hey, I'm a newfag to /lgbt/, but I think I might be FtM. Recently I got a shorter haircut and the androgynous thing felt just right-- like old people were mistaking me for a guy and it felt really satisfying. How do Iknow I'm not just a confused dyke? Pls help, being trans comes with a lot of baggage and I don't want to make a mistake

>>6319744
If you could magically become a man (100% XY chromosomes, no tits, dick, etc.) right now, permanently, would you? Assume your life is the same and everyone treats you the same, just as a guy.

>>6319758
yeah, totally. being a dude sounds really nice. the only downside is that id probably get shit for being so flamboyant, but i cant really change that. by the way, what's a 'hon'?

I'm a 19 year old male, and I'm transgender, mtf. Pre everything. I'm 6'3 and 210 pounds, I'm pretty stocky and definitely look like a guy. Jawline, hair, shoulders and arms. I dress every night before I go to bed, underwear and women's pajamas, it's all I can do, and I feel wonderful, but I get super sad when I look in the mirror and see a guy in women's clothing. Is there anyone who would be willing to talk with me about their experience?
My Kik is Archman271, and We can trade phone numbers afterwords if you're so inclined, or just keep it to Kik.

>>6319774
Sounds trans to me. Look into gender therapists, they can help you, and it's probably going to be necessary for you to see one before getting testosterone anyway.

Hon is a term for an older mtf that transitioned late in life, it's used as an insult around here because they make trans people look bad or some shit.

>>6319774
hon usually means a unpassing older mtf

>>6319795
thank you! im still in high school, so ill probably sit on it for a bit (especially since i live in a rural area) but it sorta lifts a veil for me. like there it is, you retard. your destiny.
>>6319797
aw man, trans people are just tryna live :^(

>>6319822
Yeah, if you're going to college, your college will probably have some psychiatric resources that can help you locate one, and since you'll have probably have more independence from your parents, it's a good time to look into things.

>>6312247
Wow, qhi sure changed over all these years.

If you can afford it, then get cypro as an AA. If you can't then choose spiro. You need 50 mg of cypro OR 200 mg of spiro per day.

As fór E, always choose natural oestrogens. That is estradiol valerate. Premarin is literally horse piss, and e hemihydrate causes thrombosis. Yiu will need tó give up smoking however. You will need 4 mg per day.

I started taking hormones informed consent, but I want to start seeing an endo. Any good suggestions on routes when you've got shit insurance?

>>6321269
You'll need to go through a therapist if you're in the US. Literally no other way besides breaking into someone's office and pretending to have an appointment.

>>6316156
What major city do you live in? I've got some suggestions pending that answer.

>>6314289
I've scrubbed in on a few surgeries and seen the aftermath of post operative infection, so the idea of going to Taiwan for something cosmetic horrifies me. Help me break this fear?

How long until we get the tech to make 2 meter hons pass? Not that I would know anyone like that.

>>6321344
cut off your feet. then no one will be able to tell your tall. For real though, im considering cutting off my hands because they're so big

Is it normal for an endo to start you on just an AA (Spiro specifically in my case) for about a month before giving you a prescription for estrogen?
I was hoping that when I'd start HRT I'd be starting with both, not just the AA.

>>6321354
>For real though, im considering cutting off my hands because they're so big
nope that sounds like a bad idea famalan

>>6321396
yea, cuz how else would i shitpost, amiright?

>>6321392
It is common.

I started with both aa and e tho, no negative effects for me

>>6321344
Never. Their purpose is to suffer to show those of us who would become them that you can never be what you want to be, that it is a futile effort, and that dreams do not come true.

I supposedly live among one of the largest transgender communities in the world, and yet I have never once gotten to meet this community or talk to anyone in it. How does the community work and where do I assimilate into the hivemind?

>>6321239
Thanks. I was more wondering about the actual mechanics of it though. Should I go through the hassle of getting a prepaid credit card for this? I'm kinda concerned about credit card security uying sketchy drugs over the Internet and the only credit card I have is cosigned by my parents so them seeing that I bought like 100 dollars of "Personal Care products from Nubrain" (iirc this is what they said it would charge as) would raise questions.

Should I be buying a PO box in case it gets trapped in customs (which is apparently a regular thing for Canada) and they blacklist my address?

Should I be using a fake name for that same reason or any other reason?

Should I be freaking out about this part this much? I live in a university residence so I'm pretty sure that adds another layer of complexity on top of it that could end up fucking me over. I ordered something on Amazon the other day just to see how postage works here in prep but idfk.

>>6322151
Mailbox could be a good idea if you live with your parents or have roommates. You don't want people finding certain boxes you get, thats why I bought one too before ordering my own hormones.

I don't know why I even bothered trying to figure out my gender identity. I can't do anything about it. I have 0 chance of passing. Titty skittles aren't magic.

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>>6322800
From this.

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>>6322804
To this in 1 year.

They aren't magic but they help.

>>6322804
>>6322812
Different anon. Did your hairline improve a lot from fin and minoxidil or is your hairstyle covering it?

>>6322819
I didn't use fin or medox but my hairline improved after 3 months by about 2-3mm. The hair does help though.

>>6322812
Is that you? You look really good.
I don't think I really have much of a chance to look nearly as good as you. 1.93 meters tall, broader shoulders, outward-protruding ribcage, wide jaw.. basically a space marine.

>>6323054
I'm ex army so was rather hench before skinning down before the first picture. Also I'm 6"2'

>>6322800
>>6323054
You never know. But consider taking the skittles anyway, it helps mentally even if you don't transition.

Is 25mg cypro too low? I know this varies by person but as a general guideline should I just aim for 50?

>>6323100
Self med guidelines are 25mg for the first two weeks then 50mg until your testicles are out of the equation.
If you're not self medding listen to your fucking doctor.

>>6323151
I'm sorry, but what is cypro and can I get it without a prescription?

>>6323165
>what is cypro
Cyproterone Acetate.
>can I get it without a prescription?
In the United States? Yes. QHI has it and I'm fairly certain IHP does too. It's pricey.

>>6323178
If it's non prescription maybe I could do that instead of spironolactone hmm...
>eastern europe here, no one isn't a peasant

>>6323036
what improved your hairline?

>>6323225
Estrogen and Cypro.

Okay no hugboxing please.
Ik 3.5 months into hrt and my breasts are at what i believe to be tanner stage 3.
Is this normal? Also does this mean ill have big tits?

>>6323151
>increasing cypro dose.
Total bullshit. 25mg is enough for almost everyone. Take naybe 50mg for a month if you want to nuke your T faster, then stick to 25mg.. From there you can even try lowering it again

Why does masturbating relieve dysphoria(for a day or so anyway)? Am I not really trans?

>>6323577
>Why does masturbating relieve dysphoria(for a day or so anyway)?
Masturbation, for most people, helps relieve pent-up tension and is generally pretty pleasurable. That's why it relieves dysphoria.
>Am I not really trans?
You might be AGP. But, despite what some people may tell you, that's still trans.
Even if you're not AGP, it still doesn't disqualify you from being trans.
Don't worry about it, it's perfectly normal.

>>6323608
Should I transition if I have AGP? Will I be happy about it? I know that I am the only one who can *properly* answer that question, but there should be some general consensus about whether transitioning is worth it for AGPs, right? Personally, despite all that, I still do feel kinda uncomfortable with my body and sometimes just stare at myself in the mirror for a few minutes thinking about how good I would look as a girl. And I feel extremely happy when I look in the mirror *and* look like a girl. And when someone calls me a she in public. I have literally no idea what I'm feeling but I also am kinda skeptical about whether transitioning will be worth it because I think that I'll forever be left with the truth that under all those layers of surgery, hormones and makeup that I'm still a disgusting man.

>>6323637
1. You should transition if you think it'd make you happier, and it certainly sounds like that's the case for you.
2. Go talk to a therapist about this. It'll help with working out what you're feeling.

>>6323637
alright buddy. im drinking tonight. You know why? Because i just baught makup for the first time ever. I've kinda cross dressed a few times throughout my life but, i've never went this far. And you know what? I regret not doing this earlier. I love putting on makeup and pretting myself, even though i still don't pass 100 percent. It was awkward as fuck buying makeup, but i decided to just ask the lady at the local cvs pharmacy about makeup while blushing like a retard. She helped me out fine though without any questions and helped me pickout some makup. THen i came home, got drunk as shit and put on eyeliner and blush and stuff and have never felt happier. Im not sexualy aroused or anything, but i just like being pretty. I just feel happy when im told il look like a girl or whatever. Excuse any speling errors, like i said im drunk af. I think you just need to look at it like, would i be comfortable telling everyone in my life im a pussy fagot and rather be a girl? Because thats how i think about it, like, After putting on makeup for the first time i finaly realize what i want and am not afraid to tell anyone regardless on how amutare i look and stupid.

> I'll forever be left with the truth that under all those layers of surgery, hormones and makeup that I'm still a disgusting man.
I normally obsess with thte truth, like toa fault. But when im happy i just dont; care. LIke, even though i was born with a dick, and have to create a new voice and am dependent on hormones (im not, yet btw), i still feel like ide be happy in my body. Theres a certain bliss associated with being happy with your looks, and i finaly knowwhat it feels like. Yea, im rambling. SO if you wanted to take anything from this, ide say try it out. Go buy makeup and girl cloths and see if it makes you happy like tit makes me. Every time i ask someone what they want from life, they always say "i want to be happy". If becoming a freakgrill makes you happy, who the fuck cares.

>>6323637
Transition is usually a last resort for those who would rather die otherwise. Others see it as a temporary lifestyle choice (>>>/lgbt/femgen) and don't care about infertility, permanent breast growth, and other health risks.

>>6323726
>permanent breast growth
I mean, having them removed isn't terribly costly.

People under 20 should be more concerned about the very permanent and totally irreversible hip widening.

>>6323763
>hip widening.
That happens?
I thought bone structure changes from HRT was just a meme.
Does it change by a lot?

>>6323778
Bones stop growing in an average person's 20s. This doesn't change on HRT either.

>>6323778
he's talking about fat distribution retard. also depends on genetics.

>>6323778
Yeah, if your hips aren't already fused (19-21) they'll widen like a real girl's.
It's not massive but it can be pretty significant; another thing where your genetics decide how things play out.

>>6323785
>People under 20

>>6323786
No, I was not, retard.

>>6323362
gives me hope for my naked mole ratness.

>>6323763
I'm 24 I would give anything for hips ;(

>>6323823
I would break them if I knew it would mean they would get wider and I could still walk right. Maybe if I do it the right way?

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>>6323823
Anything?

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>>6323803
>like a real girl

>>6323823
I'm 24 and I haven't had even an inch in hip growth after two months of HRT. Not that I expected any growth, but it's still disappointing.

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>>6323823
>>6323901
>tfw 19
>unsure if I really want to transition or not
>time continues ticking away

>>6323901
I should add that, despite no growth at the hips, breast development has been better than I expected. I should have B cups by the fifth month. So HRT is definitely working, it's just my hips aren't doing anything.

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>>6323912
>tfw 19
>tfw could've started transitioning at 16
>tfw could've had cis-girl hips by now

>>6323476
Can somebody help me

>>6323476
>>6323940
You could always read the fucking OP.

It's not typical but it's still within the predicted range. Earlier breast growth does not indicate more breast growth.

>>6323912
fucking do it, Im 24 and miserable from my ignorance, you will be exactly 5 yrs less miserable. -_-

>>6323852
would do idgaf christians think I'm burning anyway. -_-

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Is there any difference in medication you take wether you self-med or go to a doctor ? Is it mostly just so they can check hormone, blood levels etc. to make sure your not dieing ?

How long does it take on hrt to feel "right" about the choice you made ? Honestly questioning way to much and probably more than a "normal" person, so mind as we'll see right ?

More of an urge to transition than a desire. Very little to no desire but the urge is still there after 2 or so years. No depression anymore just boat loads of anxiety. If you have thoughts or opinions feel free to respond.

20

>>6324012
When I say urge like something deep down says do it but I question to much if I've just made it up. It doesn't feel like I made it up but it does at the same time. ;-;

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>>6323901
I figured I'm almost at month 2 and nothing is happening except my boobs are growing slightly. I try to be supportive to other people but deep down I've known my whole life that I'm going to die by my own hand. it's just a matter of time.

>ywn have the right childhood
End my life.

>>6324770
This haunts me every single day.

>>6324027
calm down you retard, 2 months is barely any time for changes to occur

>>6322804
>>6322812
great now post photos that are comparable in any way

>Think I'm making progress and slowly making it, that the new hair looks cute as heck
>At a large family dinner today after a funeral
>Two cousins sitting across from me both say I look like someone
>They pull out their phones with pictures of two different obvious masculine guys saying "No he looks like this one!"
>Self esteem back to zero

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>tfw small town

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>>6325245
>tfw small rural religious town
Moving to #TrannyMecca after Uni.

We gon make it nigga.
>>6325076
You gon make it too.

So are these several-inch long hairs at the edge of my hairline a bad thing? Only been on fin for 3 or 4 months and just started using minoxidil a week ago. I doubt I would have shit growing in. Not anything that long at least. I never noticed those before.


This hairline shit is gonna drive me crazy. It's become, like, my biggest concern.

>>6325377
Its just the normal hairs that everyone has at their hairline that grow slower than the others. Youre just noticing them now

>>6325452
huh. Well that's good then. Thanks

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>having to reapply makeup every time I make wudhu

>>6325483
>tfw cry for hours but makeup still like new

Jane Iredale is pretty good.

>>6323912
Do it. I started HRT at 30 and regret not starting at 20.

What are some girls clothes that won't look too weird when I'm presenting as a guy?
I'm guessing stuff like crew-neck t-shirts and jeans, right? Anything else?

>>6325705
If you've got the scratch there's a few really good androgynously marketed brands. Fourteen and Veer come to mind. Hautebutch also has some stuff targeting lesbians that would probably do the trick.

Uh so I think I'll just post this out.

I've been having these feelings that I didn't belong in my body since puberty and I've been cross dressing since even before then in secret. I think I want to begin to start going through the process of transitioning but part of me thinks it isn't worth alienating my whole family.

My parents had me very late in their lives so I don't have that much family left around me. To top it off, they're on either side of the globe so it's hard even now to stay close to them. This would make me a total reject from the family. I wouldn't be excommunicated, but they just wouldn't know how to take it.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? How did your family take it?

I'm also scared of the whole hormone therapy. Do you think the same afterwords? Are you more sensitive? What if you end up looking like a monster when it's all done? There's so many what if's..

Hey, I just invented a new word for antiandrogens.

Are you ready? Here it is:

Testicides.

>>6325830
That's the Hindi word for testicle.

>>6325821
>Do you think the same afterwords
Your personality does not really change. It's more that you can finally behave like you want to. You are no longer restricted by being a "man/boy"

>Are you more sensitive
I am more sensitive.

>What if you end up looking like a monster when it's all done
Thats not the right question. What if you end up repressing for 30 years? You wont be happy and when you start then your chances of being pretty are far worse.

>How did your family take it?
They are ok with it. Ofc it is something they need to process first.

Everyone has had your doubs. Some still have them from time to time. But in the end there is only one real choice: transition. Dont ignore your feelings. See >>6325621

If there are any NHS Brits in the thread, what do I have to do to get HRT? Do I have to do any RLE or just convince a shrink at the clinic? I want to go stealth and never actually come out but can't self med.

>>6326519
Good luck getting hrt without coming out! There's nothing to stop them giving you a prescription without rle but it's so incredibly unlikely. What they need before you get your pills is proof that you're trans, that's either "I've changed my name and am living full time already" or many appointments talking to a therapist so that they can come to their own conclusion over time.

TL;DR
The fastest way to get a prescription is RLE. But it's not impossible to get one without it.

>>6326627
The issue is what would count as proof of being trans. Shit, the only thing stopping me is what everyone else would think and I could avoid that by keeping it my dirty secret until the water's boiled around the frog. I could get a clinic referral from my GP or therapist but whether their word counts for anything to get the mones, I have no idea.

>>6326675
It's almost impossible to self refer any more because of all the transtrenders. Go to your GP and get them to refer you. Get a letter from your therapist saying they believe you're trans to take with you to the GIC. Be prepared, they say it's a 12month wait from the referral but I had to wait 15 before the first appointment. Go with low expectations and you'll be fine.

I want to grow my hair longer, faster, and was looking into things like Viviscal and biotin supplements. Anyone here try those or something similar? What were the results, what do you recommend?
Also, would it cause problems if I were to take them at the same time as HRT?

>>6327753
Ok im like obsessive about this so I'll tell you what works and whats crap. For one HRT spiro + E obviously can stop hair loss or cause some regrowth. I combine that with fin even though some research says it's redundant just incase there is excess DHT in my body. For true regrowth get 5% minoxidil, apply it twice a day. For supplements the only things that work is biotin (2000mcg) and a multi vitamin (get without potassium if you can). If that regime doesn't cause regrowth after 6 months- year try switching fin for dutasteride. Now if that doesn't work try to get a clean batch of the experimental RU-58841. For shampoo use nizoral 2 times a week and use a sulfate free condition. If you start this regime then you can mostly likely get a hair transplant and keep all the hair but give it a year or so first if not longer, you an get shedding when starting but just stick with it. I've been on minoxidil for a year and just started this routine but others have followed it and had amazing results but it took years. Some were lucky and got full regrowth after 3-4 years.

>>6327753
obviously consult with a doctor too if your taking all of this.

>>6327842
I'm not looking for regrowth, just growth.
I've already got a full head of hair, I just want it to be longer and don't feel like waiting, that's all.

>>6327846
Yeah, I figured. I'm seeing my endo in a month, so I guess I'll ask him then.

>>6327861
biotin works, viviscal is kind of a scam might as well just get multi vitamin + omega 3 supplement. (if that even helps, you would have to be really nutrient deficient)

>>6326697
I've read enough to be expecting a hell of a wait, just hoping I won't have to wait that long just to be met with "what? no, your crazy scheme isn't going to work. if you're trans, do RLE or go the hell home"

>>6327880
They won't just tell you to sod off. The worst they'll do is delay your progress. There's only so many times you can say your trans before they believe you.

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I am completely disgusted with myself and wish I was dead.
My body is a misshapen caricature of what I want to become.
Why do I continue to cling to such a hopeless existence?

>>6331497
Same. Might as well try hormones and stuff first though.

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>>6331532
I'm a bit ahead of you then. 9 months HRT, no good so far.
See you at the finish line.

>>6331563
Yeah I'm only 3 months in right now. Been a little better, but the initial excitement seems to be wearing off. At least give it a couple more years if you can. Even if your body doesn't totally get there, there's still a lot of change to be done (presumably).

Uh.. real weird question: is it possible to have a super mild case of the whole dysphoria thing? I really don't like my body, if given the choice I wouldn't pick any other male body because it weirds me out, wanted to be a woman since a young age, couldn't possibly enter a relationship as a man. Check, check, check. I don't despise my body to the point where I can't live with it though? So long as I'm Forever Alone I think I can probably deal. Having sex in this meat robot sounds awful and wrong.

>>6331497
>>6331532
Look Stellaris is going to get patched and be pretty fun. Paradox always come through. Believe in them. Is death without a good Stellaris worth it? I say not.

so..it seems like i can't orgasm anymore. when it goes to happen i just feel one that's like 5% as strong as normal. did i fuck my shit up? i know my dick isn't going to be diamonds but my impression was you could still orgasm...
i've been on for 7 months approximately and i upped my est to 4mg like a month ago and also started running more regularly in that time if that's relevant.

>>6327842
Is there a point to minoxidil if you don't want to do it for the rest of your life? Doesn't the hair just die if you stop?

>>6332095
I was there some time ago, it's only gotten worse..

>>6332103
I wanted to get into that game because it seemed fun but I'm too lazy/tired anymore to learn new things

>>6332109
Not an expert by any means but I thought anal was The Way?

>>6332103
Is that the grand strat in space? I've never been too keen on those. I'm kinda hoping the next Elder Scrolls game won't be so shit, but let's face it, it's not gonna improve in the areas we want it to.

>>6332124
Yeah fin and minoxidil are things you have to continue for life if you wanna keep results. Sorta like hrt.

>>6332095
>is it possible to have a super mild case of the whole dysphoria thing?
Yes. Everybody is different, from the ways we experience dysphoria to how strongly we feel it. I have a fairly mild case as well, but I eventually decided the life I had wasn't much of a life that was worth living if I had to continue as I was (frequently feeling like there was something off about me, unable to look in the mirror, feeling shitty about my body in general and envious of women, etc.), so I decided, "fuck it." Might as well try HRT at least. I couldn't see myself being able to properly love someone as I was, and that's pretty much the only other thing I want in life, so even the shitty odds of finding someone as a tranny are better than my odds of being in a fulfilling relationship beforehand. Not that that means you have to try HRT or do anything. Whatever works for you is only something you can decide.

>>6332161
I'm just too manly to have even the most remote shot at passing given where science is, you know? I might be sad about the whole "you will never find love" thing but I bet that's easier than "be treated as a hideous leper for the rest of time".

>>6332161
ah well i've always found minoxidil to be gross and it's much easier to just take a pill with the rest of them..

>>6332202
True. I dunno dude. I guess for me it's not worth it to me to grow old and die alone having lived an unfulfilling life all for the sake of being "normal." I'd rather try for now, and if nothing works, I can always just kill myself later. Just do what you think you won't regret later, what gives you the best chance of being remotely happy, hell even content would do. Also, who knows? Maybe in the coming years things will get better for trans people as far as society goes. You could also try moving to a place that's more trans friendly if that's possible for you. I don't know. I'm sure it's all stuff you've thought of before, and I'm not saying anything new. If you think you can deal, that's alright. I'd bet there are people who are a little dysphoric that manage to lead relatively normal lives because it doesn't screw them up as much. Though people here are constantly saying this stuff only gets worse. It's hard to make any decision with this sort of thing, I guess. I'm not really helping. I'm sorry.

>>6332218
How so? Are you using the foam stuff? There's a liquid version too that you can use if that's any better.

>>6332253
You actually helped a lot. Thanks. You're very brave for doing this and I hope things work out for you. If you hold on to this attitude I'm sure you'll do well.

>>6332253
i'm not using it. it just seems like too much work and grossness for little benefit

>>6332253
Things won't get better anon.

>>6332275
I hope things work out for you too, anon. Best of luck.

>>6332286
I tend to find a fair amount of things gross, but minoxidil is not one of those things. The liquid version I've been using is like using an eyedropper except for your scalp/hairline. You just rub the solution (it's clear like water) in and you're done.

>>6332289
You mean with regards to society? Yeah, that's certainly a good possibility. I'm probably a bit of a naive idiot.

>>6332289
Why not? Society's steadily growing more accepting. Hell, things are getting better *right now*.

>>6332309
doesn't it leave residue? i do nopoo so it would be problematic [kek]

>>6332418
Maybe? I haven't noticed any, but I rinse my hair daily and wash/condition every other.

I guess it's offtopic, but excuse me please. I am cis male, but I experience heavy gender dysphoria which has been killing me (making me depressed and sometimes suicidal) for a very long time, since middle school I think. Maybe before I wasn't that dysphoric, but I think I always felt like I was a female which became gradually more of a problem as my body changed and as i got older and was obliged to act more like a man. Im not transgender though. I didn't dress up as a girl when i was young and there have never been any obvious signs to anyone else.
What to do to ease my dysphoria in such case? I can transition but that'd be unjust to actual trans women that genuinely suffer and... Im already 18 which is deffinitely too late to get any results. Maybe I should ask my therapist for pyzomide or whatever it was called.. Really, it's difficult for me to see myself as a guy...

>>6332663
This is bait of excellent quality.

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>>6332663
>I experience heavy gender dysphoria
>Im not transgender though

>>6332683
It's not. I asked a question and im looking for an answer.

>>6332686
I may be just wrong and it may be caused by something else like me being a neet with no knowledge of the real life and having no male role models (my dad has never been a person i wanted to identify with and he works a lot so hes most of the time not home). For whatever reason I'm just denying my masculinity.

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>>6332663
just because you didnt dress up as a girl or whatever as a kid or show any signs, gender dysphoria is something you should definitely talk to someone qualified to help you, and work with them on what the best option for you is. 18 is not too late to transition and if you feel gender dysphoria in a serious sense then i dont see how you are any less legitimate than either myself r any other trans person,

But the main thing is to talk with someone near you who is qualified to talk with you about gender issues and work with them to help yourself, whether it be transition or something else.

>>6332714
I do have a gender therapist and she told me basically the same. I'm not sure if she isn't a charlatan though - she should've excluded the possibility of me being just deluded, but after hearing my story, she started using my female name (which was nice, but i think not professional) and needs to perform some tests (to see my hormone level and check if I'm not IS) and then shell begin hrt. I was happy, but when i talked with my family, i realised that it shouldn't look like that.

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>>6332733
Well, it doesn't hurt to get a second opinion.

what do you mean by
>but when i talked with my family, i realised that it shouldn't look like that.

but if you think she might be a little unprofessional, then a second opinion could help a lot, and add legitimacy to your claim as well.

>>6332738
I live in Poland and there are just like 5 therapists that know shit about trans stuff. >>6332738
One is mine, one is an "informed consent" and the rest is ridiculously expensive .

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>>6332747
oh, that sucks, I guess its down to you to decide on the information you've been given, and a few more sessions with your therapist, just talking through things couldn't hurt either, it's not a decision you want to rush. Also, it's your decision, nobody else's. You do whatever you feel is right

>>6332733
>Be happy
>Family talks you out of happiness
what

>>6332663
>>6332733
>I am cis
>heavy gender dysphoria
>Im not trans
>it's difficult for me to see myself as a guy
>I do have a gender therapist
You trans as fuck dumb nigga.

So how do go about buying women's clothing without looking like a creep?

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>>6332805

>>6332818
How would I know my size though?

>>6332805
Don't make an excuse at the checkout. The person ringing you up is acting on a script and autopilot, saying something off-script will wake them up and they'll suddenly take notice of you and your purchases.

>>6332825
Measure yourself? Look up some tutorials online and buy a cheap length of flexable measuring tape (the stuff used for sewing).

>>6332825
Google a size converter.

If you don't know you male clothing sizes then measure yourself.

If you don't know your sizes and can't measure yourself you clearly aren't a functional adult and should ask mommy to buy them for you.

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>>6332791
>>6332758
I just feel so awfully sad and hopeless today. I most probably am a trans girl when I think of it, but I wish I fucking wasn't. I hate my body, my face… even now I can feel all the muscles and bones that make it look so atrocious. I hear my breath resonating in my manly chest. I've been told that I'm feminine, that I have a "good base for HRT", but it cannot change that I hate my body and that I'm scared if there's even a point in transitioning. But what else can I do? DIE? I don't want to die, I want to be myself, a woman. I know there's 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance that it's possible without spending tens of thousand dollars on FFS… but I want to try. And maybe one day I'll get rich? No, I won't ;_;. Fuck. I wish I was just cis, preferably a girl, but whatever.

Is there any reason to believe that a high stress environment will negatively affect breast growth?

>>6333722
Just go to bart idiot, 15k for full ffs and same if not better results

>>6334021
Does it mean boobs aren't growing when they don't hurt.

>>6335009
Didn't mean to reply to anyone.

I'm 18, male, and could start HRT tomorrow. Does anyone think it's worth waiting until I can jump through the hoops to get semen cryopreservation? I really am at the end of my rope, and I'm worried that I should take the meds now, rather than letting the effects of male puberty continue for the coming months. I also would like to have kids some day, but I'm not sure if that is a realistic aspiration.

>>6335009
From personal experience, my boobs have increased in size without any pain. My nipples are tender to the touch but the pain isn't constant and they don't hurt like they did in the first month.

Really, I wouldn't worry about it unless you're 2 years post HRT. Consider switching medications if you're worried?

>>6335053
Start as soon as possible if you want to have a chance at passing. I'm sorry but you might have to choose between this and having biological kids. You might still be able to adopt though.

>>6335053
Since you're worried about infertility, you might want to consider bicalutamide as your anti-androgen. One study showed the medication to preserve fertility for up to 4 years. However, if you decide to take estrogen as well, infertility becomes a game of chance. You might have a few months afterward of starting HRT to still bank sperm but don't count on it.

>>6335102
I have bicalutamide, could you send me a linkerino to that study, if you have one.

>>6335068
>if you want to have a chance at passing

Are you saying that I am already unlikely to pass if I start at 18?

>>6335176
when you start has less to do with it than genetics
if you have shit genes (for being a tranny that is), then it won't matter if you start at 16 or 25, you will still look like a man
this does not appoly if you start before puberty

>>6335133
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11260298

>>6335176
I've been told that at 18 your chances are still decent if you have the right genes. Delaying things is just always a risk.

Does anyone know if lifting as an MtF will make you Xboxhueg? I'm trying to help my girlfriend lose weight and I want to do all the workouts with her so she knows I support her but I really don't want to go back to not passing. I'm assuming the anti-androgens would prevent me from putting on much bulk but I really don't want to risk it.

>>6335068
>>6335200
While that true, a few months won't matter much. If you can have the sperm freezed in under, say six months, that should be fine.

>want to be skinny as fuck (already pretty skinny)
>don't want to hurt breast growth
God damnit. I want a super flat tummy already.

>>6323912
Do it. I started at 22 and my biggest regret is not starting sooner.

>>6335195
tyvm

>>6335195
so, are a lot of people on here early transitioners, who had supportive parents? Like, I thought about DIY, or castrating myself when I was younger, but wouldn't that have been irresponsible?

Idk, I just wish my parents weren't so bigoted and controlling.

>>6323912
you'll never pass anyways, it's too late. but try… it won't be worse

>>6335191
This

does anyone know where I can obtain a GnRH agonist?

Hi is there anyone who gets nhs injections here? I have an appointment tomorrow but I think I got some stuff wrong and I'm really scared right now ;~;

>>6335623
From your doctor. I'm highly skeptical of it being sold anywhere online.

>>6335214
You'll put on muscle like women, maybe even less easily (if your testosterone levels are low enough). It might look comparatively more masculine on your male skeleton though.

I've only started coming out to my family six weeks ago, and I recently found there's an informed consent clinic fifteen minutes from my house. I really just wanna start HRT since I'm already 24 and I don't feel like I have much time left, but I'm worried I might be rushing things and not thinking this through all the way. How long does it normally take to get on HRT?

>>6336047
It took me several months of seeing doctors, therapists, psychologists, etc until I eventually just ordered my medication online.

You can start taking anti-androgens now and then begin estrogen therapy in a few months once you've decided.

>>6332159
i mean i guess, but i don't really have the means for that right now. i didn't think the other way would just stop

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I think I have gender dysphoria but I'm not trans. I don't want to be a girl and I don't act or want to act like a girl, and I fucking love my dick.

But I still have gender dysphoria, I just want to look like a girl and I had a panic attack a week ago because my hairline is receding at incredibly speeds and it will be literally impossible for me to live without my beautiful hair that makes me look girly.

I considered HRT but boobs and dead penis would cause me dysphoria from the other side, but finasteride and the other treatments obviously won't last forever to hold my hair in my head so HRT is the only solution.

Thanks for ruining my life, trap mangos

>>6336809
That's not gender dysphoria.

You're just a vain bloke that wants to be a youthful femboy forever.

>>6336838
Ignore the youthful part and probably you are right. Still unsure what to do though.

>>6336809
>my hairline is receding at incredibly speeds

Get on Finasteride. 1mg to 2mg should be enough to save you.

>finasteride and the other treatments obviously won't last forever

Then get a hair transplant.

>>6336877
Alright, I'll get on fin again. I actually tried three times already but everytime I take it my blood pressure goes apeshit and the next days after it I have anxiety attacks.

I guess this time I'll go to the doctor and ask why this is happening.

If it turns out I can't take fin I'll just end everything.

>>6336854
Accept you can't be a little boy forever.
>Ignore the youthful part
Femboys are the embodiment of male youth.

>>6336900
Then maybe we aren't talking about the same thing.
I give no shits about looking like a young male, I want to look like a woman. A young woman, a middle aged woman, an old woman, whatever, I don't give a fuck about my youth.

But I still don't want tits and I want my functional penis.

>>6336907
Get a mastectomy.

>>6336907
Oh. I... huh? You're on some next level shit there senpai.

>>6336929
Where's the functionalpenistectomy?
>>6336953
t-thanks

>>6336953
fem boy, fem man, final form evolution go! fem old man!
In all seriousness this might be me as well but I want boobs. :I

>>6336907
So what's the actual problem with boobs? Unless you're 13 you won't be growing anything more than a B cup, which happen to be easy enough to hide. And a man with boobs would make you exotic, if that's your thing.

>>6337032
How does one market 'exotic' when looking for a date; or is it more of a 'Hey look I'm basically a daemonette of Slaanesh let's fuck.'?

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Honestly, I probably just need to sleep, or at least do something to take my mind off all this (been looking at trans-related things for the last 45 minutes or so...longer if you count the time spent doing my eyebrows), but I just don't know what I want anymore. I've started on hormones, and I look forward to taking them each day, but I'm afraid of everything in my future. Like, I try and envision a future where I'm a woman and I grow old as a woman, and it freaks me out. Same thing as a man, though maybe slightly less so, because at least it would be easier, and I wouldn't have to change for it. Both of them are difficult to envision, though.
I mean, Idk, am I just afraid of aging in general? I really don't want all of my "dysphoria" and depression to be a result of me being afraid to grow old. :(

>>6336907
be a SERM cycle guinea pig

>>6337139
I did my research about it for a long time.

Penis dies, anon.

my dick still works fine after 7 months, not even making attempts to stop it

>>6337289
>tfw dick stopped working entirely after 3 months
It is a good feel. Sometimes I forget about it.

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what even is the point of transition if fake isn't good enough for me

>>6337437
To try and stop yourself from developing any farther in the wrong direction

>>6337388 (heil)
What does "not working" mean exactly? Like, no random boners? Or no boners at all, even if you try?

>>6337463
The latter.

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How do I come out on Facebook.

I created a new Facebook and added several dozens of friends so when I eventually do come out, my family won't see it on Facebook (I want to come out to them in person, but they live far away at the moment). But I feel like saying "so I'm trans" is just too simple, too brief, but I have no idea what else to add to that.

Has anyone else come out on facebook?

>>6338115
>How do I come out on Facebook.
You do not. That's retarded.

>>6338124
But I'm currently at college and it would be so much easier to tell everyone that way, as opposed to them finding out when they run into me wearing makeup, leggings, and have girly hair.

>>6338135
I'm also going to keep my pictures updated, so I'd have to come out on Facebook eventually.

>>6338135
>>6338145
Alternatively just start uploading girl pics and let it happen. Only drama queens 'come out' to anyone but their parents.

>>6338148
Looks like I'm a drama queen. I've already "come out" to my girlfriend and three other friends.

>>6338172
>girlfriend
Fair. Didn't occur to me because nobody loves me and I'm going to die alone.
>friends
At least I'm not a drama queen.

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>>6338176
>nobody loves me and I'm going to die alone.
>not a drama queen.

>>6337437
Okay, well i might not be able to convince you of this but you have to think about that word, "fake". If you really transitioned, what about you would be fake? Every single cell in your body would be estrogenic, y-chromosome or not. Even so, there are women born with XY. Androgen-insensitivity. And there are women born without uteruses. without vaginas. With lots of body hair, with big hands, with big feet, a little too tall, a little too wide...

This is the true meaning behind "gender is a social construct" that poltards cant wrap their heads around. When you think of all the different things that we would call a "woman", theres really no reason to consider yourself a "fake woman"

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Is bicalutamide + "SERMs" a legitimate thing that works, or are people in other threads memeing? Never heard of SERMs before but someone said to try Raloxifene because it will prevent tits from growing and osteoporosis. However, I always heard that taking an AA without estrogen is bad.

Also, is it true that bicalutamide doesn't make you infertile?

>>6337437
In a different sense not transitioning would leave you similarly fake (mentally if not physically). Pretending to be the gender you're not because your body happens to match that one is more "fake" than changing your body to match the gender, even if imperfectly. That is, unless you consider your consciousness to be secondary in importance to how you look.

What's the deal if I start self-medding while I'm on a NHS waiting list? Will it just cause problems down the line?

>>6338913
>>6338958
who ever you are. you are so on point with this.

>>6339139
Hasn't caused problems for me. Just make sure you use Cypro else they'll tell you to swap.

>>6337063
2012 is best

>when you grow up into a meme
I live in my room and my dad makes me tendies. How many PPP do I have?

amerifag here, is cypro really better than spiro? What about 200mg of spiro?

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>Finally getting enough growth to understand what cone tits means

>>6339577
They both stop the effects of T. Cypro achieves it with a lower dose. Also there's studies that show Spiro can limit breast growth.

>>6339577
cypro can give you liver cancer

>>6337063
Tenders I feel the same way.

>>6323721
This is good advice anon

Anyone else get really bad migraines on hormones?

Been getting them almost daily and to top it off, grim details coming up when I wake up every couple of days theres a small ammount of blood when I blow my nose.

Any ideas?

>>6340355
Are you meding legally? Can you talk to a doctor?

>>6340355
I've been getting headaches too. I was hoping it's not the hormones

>>6340367
No self medding and not really, idk what to do apart from change AA but its kinda complicated I seem to be allergic to everything.

>>6340478
I'd do my best to talk to a medical professional as soon as possible. I know this is fucked up but you can't keep taking this stuff until you figure out what's wrong with you. This is going to sound unorthodox but perhaps you can find out if there's a sympathetic doctor in the region and come to them during office hours? Preferably private medicine so you don't have to wait.

>>6340500
I debated with myself whether to write this but I fel that I have to add this: you could seriously mess yourself up or even die if you have some sort of a condition which would trigger an abnormal response. You need to get to the bottom of this and stop the treatment 'till then.

>>6340500
>>6340512

I cant afford private but thanks ill think about stopping as fucking awful as that would be, if i had to guess id say it was the cypro causing the problems.

>>6340555
I'm really sorry. I can't think of much else to suggest. Perhaps you can get in touch with the local LGBT community organizations and seek help? You know the type I mean.

>>6340575
I dont think there are any where i live and honestly in the UK i think the best theyd be able to do is talk about things.

But cypro does causes migraines (and turmors) and high blood pressure when you sleep can cause the nose bleeds even though my blood pressure is normal it could be that. Ill stop it anyway and wait till I can switch to spiro or biclutamide or something and talk to a doctor see what happens.

I have another month to wait before I can get a legit doctor on the NHS if im fucking lucky, god I hate this shitty country.

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>tfw you'll never manage to pass and you're just gonna be a 6 foot butch tranny forever

>>6340631
Good luck. Please take care. Be well.

>>6340633
>>tfw you'll never manage to pass
Not with that attitude you won't.

>>6340633
Being huge and passing are two different things.

>>6339620
>tfw never had to go through the awkward cone tits stage

Mine are already rounding out by the second month.

How do I buy make-up in person when I'm in boy-mode without looking like a weirdo?
Also, what should I get? Like, what would be in a "make-up starter kit"?

>>6341272
Things I would recommend trying (in order):
Concealer
Foundation
Lip gloss
Bronzer
Eye shadow

>>6341272
Say you're buying for the bae if anyone asks.
If nobody asks don't worry about it.

>>6341338

And before all of that: mascara, eye liner

>>6340631

Taking 25mg of cypro won't be any risk, even if you take it for 10 years.. Keep in mind the medication gets described in 10x higher doses for it's "actual purpose" that's when things get dangerous.

(I'm on cypro for 2 years, heavy drinker and drug user, but apparently my body is still in a very healthy state, despite my 6 years of self descructive behavior)
You don't have to worry so hard about cypro really

>>6338913
thanks for trying to make me feel better but I just fundamentally don't see it that way

>>6338919
I think the idea is that you cycle estrogen and raloxifene. Raloxifene has estrogenic effects on the body, except for the breasts.
There are a couple people who say they are doing it, but it is largely untested, so you will have to do your research.
Bicalutamide reportedly has a lesser chance of infertility and other sexual side effects. I have taken bica for 4 months now and can say that I still produce semen on orgasm. I don't know about sperm because I've never had any intention of having children so I never looked into it.

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>>6341520
>mfw I take 5 mg, never took any drugs or was a heavy drinker but cypro is still reking my body bad.

I should get an orchi already.

>>6341906
At that point I wouldn't even be sure it's the cypro.

>finished watching The Danish Girl
Holy shit that was an odd mix of depressing and uplifting/inspirational. Gerda is an awesome person too, holy shit. Anyway I was just wondering if that's how most trans people feel. Like, I thought I was trans before watching the movie, but now I'm not so sure. I felt like I could kinda relate to some of how Lily felt, but on the whole it didn't feel like what I feel. I mean, I already knew I wasn't super dysphoric, but I guess I'm not as sure as I thought I was about being trans. Have any of you experienced something like this? Where you're like, "if this is what being trans is supposed to be like, then maybe I'm not trans."

>>6342044
I wish that was on netflix.

>>6342052
Yeah. You can find it online super easily though in case you haven't looked for it already.

>>6342072
I haven't, I'm pretty darn afraid of shady websites and try to stick with Netflix and amazon prime video. Where did you see it from?

>>6342044
It's a dramatization. Most people dont have fucking multiple personality disorder and redmayne is a faggot so that has to factor in there too.

>>6341959
I know it's my shitty body doing it but I have no access to other AAs.

>>6342081
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Sorry just remove all the spaces. I don't wanna get banned, and I don't remember what sites are autobans or if that's even still a thing. Anyway, there are a lot of shitty ads that spring out from that site, so if you don't have something like uBlock Origin to protect you from potentially malicious pop-ups (even if it's temporarily disabled on that page), it's probably best to look elsewhere.

>>6342088
>It's a dramatization.
Yeah that's fair

>Most people don't have fucking multiple personality disorder
Huh. I guess it actually was more of that than I thought. I was thinking it was mostly a way for Lily to explain her feelings of dysphoria and stuff since there was obviously barely any information on the subject at the time. But yeah, you're right.

>>6342044
It is inevitably a dramatization based off a book that was mostly fictional. Ends up not being very universal.

What should I call myself?

I am AMAB and on HRT, very much enjoy the effects, but I've tried multiple times to identify as female for years and it never quite "clicked". I very much like being a andro/fem guy with small boobs and bigger hips, though. I hate my body hair, hate my muscle. Female HRT was the best thing I ever did...but I'm not female.

I've just been calling myself "genderqueer" but every time I look it up, Google conjures up images of bald bearded men in dresses which I'm rather not.

What am I? Is there a more tactful of way I'm saying I'm an IRL trap with tits?

>>6342146
>What am I?
A boy on estrogen?
>Is there a more tactful of way I'm saying I'm an IRL trap with tits?
Just say you are a non-binary genderfuck androgyne.

>>6342146
Well /femgen/ is home to femboys if that sounds better to you. I dunno. I'm kinda in the same boat as you, but I stopped caring about it. I wish I was a woman, but I can't say I am one, even if I am taking hormones. I dunno. It's whatever.

>>6342185
>>6342146

Butch mtf? That's what I consider myself at least

>>6342185
>>6342176

"Non-binary" probably works well. Truth be told, if I could've just been born a woman, I would've. But part of me also does find great satisfaction in living my life as a gender-bent boy on 'mones instead.

>>6342261
I'm >>6342185
Same with what I would've picked if it was possible. And yeah I kinda like being in between too. Androgynous look is sweet. I seriously don't care what I'm called though (within reason I guess). I just wanna be ok when I look in the mirror, and lately that's been improving.

I'm thinking I want to switch from spironolacone to a different anti-androgen. I'm thinking Lupron but it's expensive, and I'm not sure if my insurance(Tricare) will cover it.

Anyone know if Tricare covers Lupron? If not, what alternatives are there to spironolactone? I'm not interested in flutamide/bicalutamide because they don't do anything to stop DHT.

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>>6342146
>>6342185
Labels don't matter. What you're doing to your body doesn't matter. What you identify as doesn't matter.

People are probably going to call you whatever your clothes and body hair indicates you are. That's your gender thing or whatever.

>>6342261
>>6342185
>I dunno. It's whatever.
That's also my feeling about it, being in a similar situation as you, except on the other side and with lots of vocal exercises rather than HRT. I don't mind my junk but want a flat chest. "Non-binary" works. "GNC person" works too.

>>6342312
>I'm not interested in flutamide/bicalutamide because they don't do anything to stop DHT
source?

How do I get over feeling really stupid for being more girly? Whenever I relax and let my guard down for a bit the shame comes back right away, and I try and hide everything again even though it's uncomfortable.

>>6343068
Won't happen until you start thinking differently.
You think of yourself (perhaps subconsciously) as a guy acting girly.
You have to think of yourself as a girl. Then acting girly isn't out of character or shameful.

>>6343131
Does that really work? I have moments of that at home alone, but as soon as there's other people around it's a different story.

>>6343068
is being girly natural to you?

>>6343217
When I'm not being self-conscious and uptight. I got teased pretty relentlessly for mannerisms and reactions and such when I was younger. My dad is also a raging misogynist too, so I'm sure that doesn't help either. It slips out when I drink though.

I'm having difficulty cleaning lipstick out of my stubble. I don't normally frequent this thread/board but surely I'm not the only one with this challenge. Anybody got tips?

>>6343248
>My dad is also a raging misogynist
Add it to the transgirl tropes list.

Just started hrt and have been on spiro for several days now. I feel like shit, the dysphoria seems to be getting worse and I just hate everything

is this normal? should things improve once I start taking estrogen?

>>6343482
Yes. The body needs a dominating hormone, and you are leaving yourself with none.

>>6343482
having little or no sex hormones will make you depressed and shitty. get on E and you'll feel better breh promise

>>6343490
>>6343492
Not that anon, but my endo is making me go on just spiro for a month before he'll give me estrogen.
Should I be worried that that's gonna happen to me too?

>>6343496
It might, but I'm sure your doctor knows what they're doing.

I'm so fat I want to die. Why does HRT make me so hungry?

>>6343496
spiro for just a month is completely fine.

anybody have any ideas for underwear that will keep shit flat??? (tranny here)
i've never had a problem with bulge in pants but i wanna start wearing skirts

>>6343576
A gaf and shapewear.

Does anyone else just wallow in their self loathing and let it drive them?
The only reason I'm able to get up in the morning is how much I hate myself.

Is going for laser worthwhile before electrolysis?
Or should I just go for electro.

And is "ipl" a scam.

>>6345614
>Is going for laser worthwhile before electrolysis?
>Or should I just go for electro.
It can actually make electrolysis harder. As can waxing.
>And is "ipl" a scam.
Works for freckles and sun damage if you're pale as a sheet.

So what's the difference between GID and body dysmorphia? Is it basically just if I have dysmorphia AND wish I was a woman, then it's GID?

>>6345698
GID, gender identity disorder, or gender dysphoria is a state of unease or generalized dissatisfaction with life caused by a perceived difference between gender and biological sex.
Body dysmorphia is a mental illness involving obsessive focus on a perceived flaw in appearance. While body dysmorphia is extremely common in transgendered and transsexual people, it is not prerequisite.

>>6345730
I guess I more meant how do I distinguish between the two when thinking about the way I see my own body?

>>6345748
Suppose you look at yourself in the mirror and see some masculine features. Body hair, muscles, a cock, etc. If these features cause you discomfort that is (possibly) gender dysphoria.
If you end up fixated on how much you hate having a penis and want genital reassignment surgery, that is body dysmorphia. While induced by GID it is not a symptom of GID in the strictest sense.

This would all make a lot more sense if we were still allowed to classify GID as a mental illness, because it is, but instead we have to split up all the symptoms into their own little mental illnesses while pretending GID itself is perfectly fine. So progressive.

>>6345770
Prioritizing making shit PC over intuitive and helpful is so fucking retarded. Thanks though, anon.

>>6345698
>GID
Discomfort with an aspect of gender.
>BDD
Delusions.

So hair thinning out a bit in the first few months of starting Fin is part of the normal shed, right?

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