/ftmg/ FTM General-FUCK YOU MOM AND DAD I'M JOINING ISIS edition

I think my gf might be a transguy. Hates to appear feminine, when we fuck (strap-on) she always talks about her cock, when I get her off she likes me describing how I felt having her cock inside of me etc. I've straight up asked her if she is and she either avoids it, makes it weird, or says no. Ideas?

>>6304355
Probably questioning or in denial. Either way don't push the issue but say you're supportive either way

do peoples personalities change on testosterone

>>6304477
I had an angry phase on T for a few months, then I relaxed and became really content. Though still grumpy about nothing.

>>6304473
Yeah I've already done that. I just hate not knowing.

Im possibly starting T tomorrow!

>>6304513
Start by not calling them cuntboys.

>>6305014
shut up i like it

Gender therapist wants to get me on T before the summer is over. Hug me, brothers!

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>>6304730
Awesome

>>6305046
See >>6305049

>>6305196
try the underworks binders from amazon (not from their website)

they're pretty light and if you have a small chest don't work too bad. i've been wearing one for 4 or 5 years and my tits look the same

I am probably going to self medicate. Any advice?

>>6305250
never heard of an ftm doing that before

sounds really dangerous

>>6305297
Yeah it probably is.

Any advice?

>>6305211
you've known you were trans for 5 years and haven't transitioned?

I don't have anyone to talk to about this and I've just got to get this off my shoulders. I'm pre-everything and am usually fine with my vag, but now I've got a cyst on it that I need to get checked out by the ob/gyn and the idea of walking into a place where everybody immediately knows my sex is making me panic. I've never let anyone near my downstairs area and now I'll have to let some woman finger me in a medical office. This is practically my worst nightmare come true.

>>6305421
I knew i wanted to transition when i was 13 or sum
now i'm 19 so more like 6 years.

I'm not physically transitioned because i live in moms basement currently, and would be homeless if i did. i look male anyway though so its whatever i guess

>>6305421
Not the same person, but I've been wearing a binder for years now, and I'm still not completely, absolutely sure that I'm trans.

>>6305421
it's expensive

>>6305250
Don't hurt yourself desu senpai!

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>>6305421
i don't want to be alone forever

>>6304477
no.

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Anyone else here who transitioned at 25 or later? I mean starting T, surgeries, etc. How are things going for you?

>>6305598
I'm not but I remember seeing studies that said average age for beginning FtM was late 20s.

>>6305552
I'll try to be careful but it's frustrating

>>6305634
I know it is, but do your research okay. It would be a shame for someone as caring and charming as you to get hurt.

>>6305643
I have been but it's tough to know which sites are legit sellers

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>>6305306
First, get in the mindset that homebrew test is gross, because it surely is. You lurk roider forums enough you KNOW that that gritty beef juice has pubes and assorted flesh particles in it.

Off the top of my head, here's a few things you should know all about before you inject yourself with that sweet man manna:
testosterone esters, half-lives, dosage v individual, subQ vs IM, do you need to aspirate (no), which local basement factory will not piss in your T, vocal transition

Go gradually or you will fuck your vocal chords and sound like shit 4 life. Don't get impatient. Especially if you're going in without blood tests to check against normal male levels. Get blood tests if you can.

Good luck though. It's what I did whilst dancing for my gatekeeper.

>>6305690
Forums, not individual sites, my dude.

>>6305440
I'm in the same boat. Still working on whether I take myself seriously enough to jump through transition hoops.

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Is phalloplasty really all that bad? I see people hating on it for some reason. I'm in no way able to afford it at this time, but I've thought about getting it on multiple occasions (I've also thought about the option of Metoidioplasty). Is the hate really justified?

>>6305755
Whether it's bad or good depends on what you want.

The "hate" is mostly people being disappointed with their alternatives. For example, it's not even particularly sensitive flesh, you know?

>>6305598
I was 28 when I started T. Got top surgery a month before my 30th birthday. I'm 31 now. Stuff's great? I'm totally stealth at work and around my neighborhood, only old friends and family know I'm trans. I have a pretty normal life, everyone thinks I'm a cis man, I date just like any other gay guy, etc. I want phallo eventually but that probably won't happen for another year or two.

>>6305196
gc2b binders bro

>>6305643
>>6305634
Y'all old timers or ?

>>6306071
Long story

>hacked off most of my hair because I'm bored and am going to get it cut anyway
>coworker asked pics
>send her some
>notice my boob is visible
>not out to her
>she has still replied but made no mention so unsure if she noticed or not

MA is best state
http://patch.com/massachusetts/boston/passionate-speeches-protests-mass-legislature-passes-transgender-access-bill-0

Okay so I'm a dyke invading ur thred but something happened to me today
>out buying a suit for a wedding I'm going to because I'm a cliche
>with my sister
>I have very short hair generally look like I'm trying to be kinda boyish I guess
>go into fitting rooms to try on suit, sister is waiting outside
>attendant leads me to room and hands me the little tag for 'this person has x items' thing so I can't steal anything
>she looks at me a bit weirdly then heads back down to her little desk podium thing
>I go in and put things on, come out and check the big mirror at the end
>she comes over to ask if I need any help, if I'm happy with it
>"I guess,it's not just not quite right"
>I meant I didn't like the shoulders
>she pauses and then says "I'm sorry but are you trans? Would you like me to go and get a male cut suit? That ones quite fitted"

Idk thought you'd guys might appreciate.
She was sweet

>>6305250
>self-medding
Don't.

Why can't you go legit?

>>6305711
How long ago was that? I've looked into self-medding, and roiders on 4chan seem to order online instead of going for local basement factories.

>>6308159
Where do you think those online drugs come from?

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>be mostly out of denial stage
>still drowning in shame
>only out to father, to lukewarm response, for about 6 months
>want to tell gay-friendly grandma and hope for the best before coming out to the rest of the family
>chicken out every time I try
>finally going to visit again in the morning
>ready to do this once and for all
>make the mistake of checking /lgbt/
>confidence wilting yet again

Will I ever get out of this ditch?

>>6304730
Why possibly?

>be low test cis male
>average ftm bro is more of a Chad than I'll ever be
>no embarrassing side effects (smaller balls) for taking T if you're ftm
>too many delicious things involve soy

i want to die

>>6308741
You'll be okay. I was 23 before I came out and just starting T at 27. It's never too late, anon.

I seriously can't take this. I'm on the lowest dosage of T possible and my sex drive is fucking insane. I fap and I'm still horny afterwards and just cinstantly horny. Someone please tell me how to calm this down a little bit before I go insane.

>>6308967
If it's anything like cis male puberty you'll get used to it after a year or three.

>>6308981
Kill me.

>>6309043
I never denied that males have a crazy puberty. How did you manage it though? Just kinda sucked it up and dealt with wanting to hump anything that came close to your crotch?

I'm not sure if I want to go on T. I want to be masculine, but not overly manly. I'm currently living as fulltime andro, and if I did take T, I'd take low dose. Depending on my body hair, I'd probably get most of it removed. Long story short, I wanna be a male twink.
What do ?

>>6308967
>>6309049
If you're not content with fapping yourself into exhaustion with your new found sex drive you should probably do something productive with all of that pent up energy, like working out, or working on some kind of project, or whatever it is you do.
But you'll get used to your libido in time and it won't seem so intense.

>>6309062
Stop watching so much yaoi.

>>6309117
My gf and I hate yaoi
>>6309123
They aren't particularly, but I might have to get some removed. I know I'm being picky, but what can you do

>>6309049
Video games. Hours and hours for years on end. Also masturbation 2-5 times a day depending on free time.

>>6308323
Probably not local basements.

>>6308799
Eat all the soy you want, it's not going to have a significant effect on your test levels.

And I can't speak for everyone, but I assume most of us would be very happy if small balls was the most embarassing thing about our genitals.

>>6309062
I've got more leg and yummy hair than any guys I know, and I love it. I'm working on building muscles up real good. But you can still be a twink and fuzzy.

>>6309994
Tummy hair*

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>TFW no burly bear ftm bf that will hold me

IT'S NOT FAIR

I think I may have an issue.

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>>6310939

The fuck is that?

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>>6310939
>>6311021
Holy crap

>>6310939
i'd suck your genital nubs

>>6310939
I learned that lots of men with dicks like this have femdom and humiliation fetishes. I guess it's kind of a given

>>6311021
I'm sorry
I hope that the same technology that will give us fully functional penises will be able to help your malformed dick problem as well

Does anyone have a leg that they favor for injections? I can inject into my left leg with no problems, but where it concerns my right leg, I've hit a vein twice and it hurts anytime I pierce the skin, no matter where I poke, so it gives me incredible anxiety.

>>6309994
>But you can still be a twink and fuzzy.

isn't that an otter?

>>6304355
she literally can't be a guy. don't let the delusion go to far.

>>6311717
Yeah I rotate injection sites, different leg each week. On my left leg, injecting on the side is not felt at all. On my right leg, injecting on the side has pinching pain that goes up and down my leg, causes terrible twitching for a minute, and generally freaks me out. However, also on my right leg, I've tried to inject more so on the top surface as opposed to the side and that's when I've hit veins, which freaks me out even more. I use 1in needles, though I've used 5/8in before as well cause I'm such a skinny guy and a pharmacist assured me I'd still be hitting muscle that way.

>>6304355
Do trans dudes actually talk like this? A strap-on is just a strap-on. I'd be unable to project that a removable phallic plastic device is actually part of my anatomy...

>>6311808
>Do trans dudes actually talk like this?
i do

>>6311808
Not the anon you were replying to but sure. It's just dirty talk after all. And I did buy the thing so I see no issue with calling it mine. Because I own it.
Nobody thinks it's a part of their actual anatomy though, that's blindingly obvious when you're fucking away and can't feel anything.

>>6310939
>https://my.mixtape.moe/jvqsii.jpg
Does it come out when you get a boner?

I've seen one like that before, always assumed that it comes out like the head of a turtle.

>>6312337
The problem mainly is that I don't get boners very easily anymore. In fact most of the time I have sex it doesn't get hard (thus why I bottom). I can even orgasm with a completely limp dick. On the rare occasions it does harden it doesn't get fully hard, except on even more rare occasions. When I get home I can show you a pic of it fully erect, it's definitely a grower and not a shower. But again, the main issue is that it almost never gets fully hard.

>>6312491
How come you're not on T? You don't seem to be too happy with this.

>>6311808
When it's on me it's "my dick" but I don't bother with the dirty talk because that shit's for femdoms

any other time it's just whatever funny word my wife wants to call it (usually "nyeahha it's a donger")

my captcha was construction vehicles, hella virile

>>6311824
>>6311756
SubQ is great, you should look into it

>>6314597
Too bad it isn't offered in many countries. In Finland you can either use testogel, sustanon or nebido and both of the injectable ones need to be injected into the muscle. I inject nebido every 14 weeks and I just go to health centre and let a nurse do it to a ventrogluteal injection site. Much better than dorsogluteal. I love the fact that I need to take a shot only around 4 times a year.

>>6304293
Has anyone here managed to stop shark week by losing weight/getting your bodyfat percentage down? Where exactly is that limit?

>>6315302
lost it at around a BMI of 17.4
and got it back around 19.5

its not really weight related though, more related to malnourishment

>>6304293
>Why don't you dress like a girl? For my birthday?
>Where are your boobs?
>Oh there they are! Do you want to be more boyish? What's your plan with that?
>You should get rid of that sports bra.
>mfw I can never come out to my family
>mfw my dysphoria hasn't been this bad in ages
>mfw I just want to leave but can't until Sunday
>mfw I can never come out to this side of the family

i want to find a ftm bf that will let me throw eggs at him while he listens to nine inch nails or maybe the foo fighters

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>>6315512
that's real weird
why not kmfdm

>>6315512
My cousins and I threw eggs at each other for sport as kids. Now after 20 years of egg throwing it's either go big or go home. Bring the ostrich eggs, fucker. That is, if you're tough enough to endure doing so to rave music.

>>6308799
>Thinking eating soy will lower your test in the year of 2016
>Complaining your friend won't experience the negative side affects of T when he literally doesn't have a dick or balls
>Another low test cis male aka "I complain about how low test I am because I don't put any work or effort into my body but will never get medically tested for it because somewhere I know deep inside that I don't actually have low test I'm just an unmotivated skeletor that would rather complain instead of actually fixing the problem."

>>6310939
Everyone's fucked up some way you just have to be able to laugh it off and when you bring a girl home know how to give the best oral of her life. Which isn't hard at all, if you know where the clit is you're already better than about 75% of men in bed by default.

>>6315387
>more related to malnourishment
basically

lost mine for a few months because of a b vitamin deficiency

>>6315512
i fucking love nine inch nails
feel free to throw eggs

>>6315302
...and then anorexia happened

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>>6315852
I want to know how many girls know what a clit is.
>playing Cards Against Humanity with friends
>one squints at her new card in confusion
>"what's a clit-or-is?"
>two other girls don't know either
>the rest of our faces when
The other players were me and three dudes, two of them gay. These girls are now qualified teachers.

>>6317743
Just how

>>6317743
I'm having a really hard time believing this. Is english your main language?

>>6317937
It's fucked up isn't it? English native and from when I was at university with these people. One of them was like 23 at the time.

>>6317743
The only constant that exists in life is the stupidity of straight people

Also I know a few conservatively raised, deeply repressed-in-just-about-every-way women and I believe this. They literally have no idea what's between their legs.

>tfw washed binders
>forgot i had to go out tonight
Welp it's time to put on a jacket and die in the fucking heat
I hate summer

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>>6317569
nothin wrong with a little anorexia mong

>>6318304

Never too late and no you look pretty much like a dude

>>6318304
You look like an average boy to me. T would probably do wonders.

>>6318151

Except watching people starve themselves to death is horrifying.

>>6318308

Thanks. What I'm most worried about is my voice. Its not very masculine, but its "in there".

>>6318309

What does the TY stand for?

So I'm just asking out of sheer curiosity, but do any of you know what the statistics of sexual orientation in trans people are? Has there been any research on the subject?

>>6318304
You're lucky, you already look like a guy. Even more than me. And I've been on T for almost a year.

>>6318432
>>6318309
>>6318308

Yeah, of course I do because I am. Sorry, I am drunk and posted in the wrong thread.

>>6318451
Have me a good chuckle

>>6318064
>The only constant that exists in life is the stupidity of straight people

this is the truest shit i ever read

>>6317569
>>6318151
>>6318346
Chill, I'm not about to starve myself to death.

>>6320354
Just make sure you will get access to T some time down the line. Keeping yourself underweight for any long period of time will mess with your health. I did it for years because
>no access to T
>kills shark week
>lowers estrogen production and feminine appearance
>lethargy makes dysphoria easier
The problem is that it can get addictive and lead to eating dissorders. You don't have to starve yourself to death to get fucked up by that, and the dysphoria can get intertwined with food issues such as "If I gain weight I'll get feminine". I recommend you to getting into lifting or sports instead. Building muscle and having hardcore exercise regimes also kills periods, will help you look more masculine because muscles and it's a lot healthier than getting emaciated.

>>6320448
I'm working out already and have an okay amount of muscle mass for someone without T. I'm planning to lose bodyfat, not so much weight. I'm 110 lbs at the moment at around 20%, used to be around 98 lbs, made a conscious effort to gain weight and I'm actually much happier with my body now.

>>6317743
Did you enlightened them by sticking your tongue in their vagina's as a way of pointing?

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>tfw you have no chance of coming anywhere close to passing without serious hrt and surgery, but have crippling anxiety around needles and surgery
>also no money and anxiety and depression are making it twice the struggle to find work
>also about to fall out from under parents' medical insurance plan due to age
>means I'm about to lose my therapist and psychiatrist too

basically I have 4 months left to live, how y'all doing

>>6321078
Guys here usually get started on testogel. Have you looked into that? It can be a bit of a pain because you need to be careful not to rub it off onto other people, but it'd save you the needles.

>>6321171
Yeah, that and/or oral meds would be ideal, but the prices of those options are a little nuts. I suppose it's something worth saving up for, but I'd feel like such a wimp throwing hundreds of dollars away just because I'll fret myself sick having to get a little shot every couple weeks.

>>6321198
Orals wreck your liver, you can't take those long-term.

I'm going to be going on T soon, and I'm wondering if there's any alternatives to injections you can suggest?

I'm scared of getting injections so I doubt I could give it to myself. My dad is a doctor, so I trust him to give me injections correctly but the college I'm going to in the fall is 3 hours away and I'm not sure I'd be able to drive home every time I need another shot (my endocrinologist would be 4 hours away but I'm not sure if there's another good endocrinologist near my school)

Or should I just stick to injections and just work with my dad to help me stop being a pussy so I can eventually give them to myself?

Lets say I sat behind a cis guy, reached around him and played with his dick pretending it's mine.

How fucked up would that be?

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>>6321653

>>6321911
yes?

>>6321944

It's weird

But I'll allow it

>>6315302
i've skipped a month or two when rapidly losing weight and i wasn't even underweight. it always comes back though, unless you're actually severely malnourished

>>6315501
wow, same here for almost all of these
>tfw overhearing a family member's comments on how masculine you look, with obvious disgust
>would almost be flattering if you didn't know their intentions

>>6318384
googling would probably give you better sources, but i've been told it's more or less 30% bi 30% gay 30% straight, for both genders

>>6322764

that's only 90%

>>6322794
oh yeah. make that 33%. though there's probably a non-insignificant amount that's asexual or at least doesn't date/have sex

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At least the top of hip bone to femur area is pretty even.
Does this curvy area shit get better with T? tips/ trix?

>>6321653
Cis faggot here I wouldn't care at all, sounds breddy hot actually, I like reacharounds.

Now would you do that with a strap on going in me and make me your little bitch while you're at it? How creepy would that be?

>>6322762
Haha thats like me im out to everyone except my extended family on my dads side even though ive been on hrt for 2+ years now. I still like kind of androgynous but otherwise i pass 100% of the time. But i have a super low voice now that doesnt pass as female even if i wanted it to. Haha they probably think im xtreme butch or something.

>>6322854
You dont look like you have a lot of excess fat so I wouldnt count on t or exercise doing much desu.

>>6322854
Looks like mine. But I'm pale and hairy.

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>>6321648
There's androgel, but it's much more expensive and the progress is slower.

I have some tips:

>only get the short 1inch needles
>slap the area you're about to stab, or keep an ice cube on the spot for a bit
>it literally is much less painful if you jab it in quickly without hesitation

The only part that's really uncomfortable to me now is feeling the T get injected. But even that isn't bad.

Also, it seems like many of us feel better injecting in the left thigh. There seems to be something about the right thigh that we've stuck a weird, uncomfortable spot before. You're supposed to alternate thighs. But as long as your injection site is healed and not sore, you can inject there more often.

It's also so much easier when you're drunk. Even though that's a no-no.

>>6322939
>It's also so much easier when you're drunk. Even though that's a no-no.

Yeah no. Don't do it while drunk unless you're okay with the chance of a massive gusher of blood shooting out a few inches.

I've got a blood stain on my carpet telling me why it's a bad idea.

>>6321071
>clit
>in the vagina
>dat trip
Yup, way to prove the point

>>6322854

You got a lot of fat sitting on your hips. A month ot 2 into T, start lifting and go on a brief but harsh diet to shed a lot of weight, then bulk up again with manly weight. The distribution should even out and give you less of a curve.

>>6322858
Not creepy, that actually makes it better.

>>6322854
gaining upper torso muscle to balance it out would probably be your best bet

>>6323377
>>6322868
No, those are love handles and they'd shrink if he lost some weight.

>>6323802
Are you fucking legally blind those aren't love handles jesus you can clearly see the illiac crest get some fucking glasses

I'm almost two weeks on T and my voice is changing. I did not expect this to happen so soon.

>>6324705
Yeah my voice started to change at two weeks too. Get ready for your clit to grow and your piss to stink.

>>6323978
he looks a little doughy anyhow and appears to have 0 muscle tone

do sum fucking deadlifts

>>6324805
My clit grew on the day after my first shot. I was shocked.

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>Straight friend fucked a ftm that hadn't started any serious transitioning yet so they were pretty much still female
>Call him gay for fucking a dude
>His straight pride won't let him be identified as gay or bi
>He also doesn't want to seem transphobic and deny the ftm their identity
>He either has to deny his own identity as a straight man or deny the identity of a trans man
Pretty hilarious to be honest.

>>6324940
You sure you didn't just get a bit overexcited?

>>6324997
Do they pass? If not then he's still straight.

Hey /ftmg/
It's me /chasergen/
Who wanna dooda piv?

what are the chances of finding a gay trans dude that will let me fuck his front hole? Im asking for a friend?

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>>6325293
Sexuality? Height? Weight? Dominant or submissive? Attractiveness?

>>6305430
You're gonna need to man up

Or go all organic, maybe it'll go away? Or better yet look for some quacky witch doctor methods for that online for that. Something's gotta give

>>6324997
Can't he just say he fucked him in his female form?what's so gay about that?

>>6325340
bi 5'7" 130lbs sub cute

>>6325393
So close. If you're a sub then why do you want piv?

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>>6325393
>cute
im down

>>6325411
cause im curious about those kinda parts honestly

>>6325422
<3

>>6325340
>Sexuality? Height? Weight? Dominant or submissive? Attractiveness?

Gayish, 164cm, idk 125£, either, 5/10 [t. /cuteboys/]

Is it weird that I got used to my chosen name almost immediately but not male pronouns yet? Online friends just call me by my username, and the only offline person I'm out to still uses my birth name, so I don't know why I got attached to my new name so quick with barely any use.

Been thinking it's partially from me already feeling mixed on my birth name, plus feeling like a delusional fuck having only "he" pronouns when I haven't started transitioning yet. It's why I let people call me any pronoun that isn't tumblr-tier.

>>6323978
Those love handles are sitting above the illiac crest and above his hipbones. They're round, if he just had wide hips they wouldn't be curving outwards, they'd be angled outward in a more or less straight line.

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>15 year old cousin comes out as ftm
>their 15 year old boyfriend comes out as mtf
>apparently their entire school is full of trans people
All this shit is making it hard to not think this is a bunch of trendy bullshit. I'm almost a little bitter about this shit after struggling so badly with it my whole life and I know I shouldn't be.

>>6327260

Yep, I know the feeling. It's partially why I had kept in denial for so long, and even now not sure of I should transition or not yet. I don't know if I should just wait until the fad dies off so I can transition in peace, or if I should do it ASAP before the fad makes it worse for us.

>>6327305
Stop thinking about others and start thinking about improving YOUR quality of life.

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Do you guys think guys or girls have easier lives ?

>>6327379
Depends on where they live

>>6327408

Western developed like Canada or the states or strayla.

i heard this song and thought of you guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4

>>6327415
Still depends on where they live. There's a big difference between a high fashion street in a big city and an industrian town.

>>6327361

I get what you're saying, and I do try to see it that way, but what people think does play a part in one's quality of life. I'd rather not be treated like subhuman/snowflake trash if i can help it. It's either be miserable internally or miserable externally, and both choices are shit.

>>6327424

okay in the average suburbs, the sophisticated city and the "slums" , who has it better ?

>>6327439
Just start transitioning as fast as you can and go stealth as soon as you pass, no one will think you're a snowflake if you don't announce being trans everywhere and to everyone.

>>6327494
Depends on their social status, income, network and health

>>6327509

I do plan on doing that if I transition, but I know these days it's nearly impossible to be fully stealth. What if the wrong person finds out and spreads it to others out of spite or something? I know I'm paranoid as fuck, though, so maybe it's not as likely as I fear.

>>6327528
I went stealth after starting T, 1-2 years after I started some individuals rarely questioned my gender since I was still quite andro without a beard etc, but no one ever said anything mean or spread any information or any shit. After 5 years I pretty much stopped thinking all that stufdf as I had beard and passed flawlessly to everyone. The faster you start the faster your life will be good.

>tell friend of my "creeping normality" idea to go on T and transition without telling anybody
>"I reckon it would work. By the time anyone realises it'd be too late"
Turns out I didn't need much encouragement. Hope medical professionals can be convinced too.

>>.6319402
how about you suck my dick you homo?

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>>6319402

fixed - suck my dick, homo.

>>6328118
that's pretty much my objective, too. let us know how it works out

>>6327379
guys in general but it's a lot more close than people think

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What do you guys think of us cis gays in general ?

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>>6328708
You don't like us so i don't like you

i had no opinion of you before /lgbt/ tho. just thought you were normal guys who happened to like men

>>6328773
>You don't like us so i don't like you

I thought we were indifferent to you guys ?

>>6328773
>i had no opinion of you before /lgbt/ tho. just thought you were normal guys who happened to like men

lmao boy were you wrong

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>>6328790
hasn't been my experience. Almost all of the shit i get is from gays

>>6328859
you should try taking responsibility for your actions for once. you know, step outside your comfort zone of being a female.

>>6328914
>your actions

alotta implications there gay boy

>>6328708
better than cis hets usually, but that's not saying much.

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>>6327305
Just go stealth. The difference between being actually trans and "trans 'cause it's trendy" is how much you tell people about it. Ever notice the "trendy" people never actually transition, they just crossdress and talk a lot? Yeah.

Be a doer, not a talker.

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>>6327305
>mfw I had the same doubts as you except I actually started transitioning and it's great now that all of this bathroom bullshit is happening I already mostly pass and don't have to worry for the most part.

>>6327379
It's a case by case basis depending on class, sexuality, race, looks
I'm more inclined to say women have it harder if they're the same in literally every aspect minus gender

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Trans FtM, i'd still classify as Men.
Welcome to being a male.

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>>6305250
EAT BIG TO GET BIG C'MON

>>6329906

I thought people were more forgiving to women when they do something wrong. There also more sympathetic when they get depressed and stuff.

>>6328859
>>6328939

I would think that cis gays aren't into ftms but are generally okay with or cool to them ? I've never actually met one in real life so.

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>>6330495
>more forgiving to women when they do something wrong

Really? In my experience they're labeled a stupid/inept bitch and are only forgiven only if they never make another mistake ever again.

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Will I pass on t?

>>6330524
I'm sure you will. It's amazing what the shit'll do for you, just wait.

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>>6330513

Actually I would have thought guys are more naturally protective of women and would try to help them or something ?

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Are there chasers for ftms or is that just a mtf meme ?

>>6328708
We're cool. I just don't like your femboys all that much. Whiny bunch of cunts, aren't they.

>>6330650

glad to hear that

>Whiny bunch of cunts, aren't they.

right you are.

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Just got my hair cut short, feels good man.

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>>6330554

You'd think, but the gender thing gets kind of tricky on that level. A lot of the "protection instinct" you mention isn't natural so much as socially taught. A kind person should want to step in and offer assistance to anybody who looks like they could use it, but we're taught by life experiences that women are weaker and need the help of men and that men sometimes feel emasculated when another man steps in to rescue him. What that whole scheme can often communicate to a woman is that men are generally better at doing things than women so they should step aside to let men help.

It doesn't really seem like the rough time women have based on their sex is really made up for by the convenience of a man being likely to have more pity on them.

>>6330645
Im an ftm chaser. But Im a straight mtf :(

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That's it. I'm going to kill myself. I don't care if all of my close friends commit suicide anymore. If they do so, this just highlights how weak they were in the first place. This is for me, and I deserve the right to die if I want to die-- and i've wanted this for a really long time. I don't care if this means they have to delay their plans. I don't care about their leisure. I hope they feel the pain of my loss, because I was probably one of the most influential forces in their lives. But, they don't deserve my influence if that means I have to continue to suffer.

>>6330917
Everyone is better off without you.

>>6330917
You have the best wishes I could offer a stranger on the internet, anon. Whether or not you decide to go through with anything, I hope you find peace.

>>6330917
that's pretty weak. the only time suicide is even reasonable is when youre going to face torture or worse. ur full of shit so gr8 b8 emofag

>>6330917
>close friends
>I'm going to kill myself

ungrateful faggot

So the Centers for Medicare services just pushed this out to their provider mailing list. I'm guessing there are not a lot of Medicare recipients on 4chan, so the decision isn't that important, but if nothing else the document provides an interesting bibliography and overview of recent studies related to Gender Dysphoria and Gender Reassignment.

https://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/details/nca-proposed-decision-memo.aspx?NCAId=282

tldr: There is not enough data available for Medicare patients due to the rarity of the procedures. The current practice of leaving the determinations on coverage to the regional Medicare Administrator Contractors will remain in place.

>>6330917
Look, I'm not gonna tell you to do it or not to do it because I know some stranger telling me not to kill myself doesn't do shit for me, but I tend to set a date or timeframe I want to kill myself in constantly. "I'll kill myself after this convention, I'll kill myself if they don't break up in three months, ect"
I make plans and everything to go through with it. Pussy out at the last moment and start the countdown over again with something else, even the most tiny insignificant reason to live for another day, another week, another month.
It's a lot healthier than wanting to cut myself and punish myself like I used to do.

Best wishes in whatever choice you choose anon. You'll make the right one for yourself.

>>6330524
Stop pretending to be ftm and using ftmgen as yet another 'do I pass!?!?!? thread

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>>6327379
its easier being a woman

its better being a man

Also
>friend has no place to stay (parents fucked her over and she's moving in a month)
>convince parents to let her stay with them
>just left for uni, mom fills her broken heart (aka emotional dumping ground vacancy) with friend
>2 weeks in already dumped suicide threats and her resentment TOWARD ME on MY BEST FRIEND
>friend told me she 100% calls me wrong pronouns/name when I'm not there (she fucks it up 90% of the time when I'm sitting right in front of her). its been 2 years on t. I have a full beard. literally the only people to fuck up my pronouns since 2014 are my parents
>angry I went to uni and "left her behind", thinks I should come home
>friend can't do anything because she has no where else to go
>she's broken me to the point I feel nothing when she treats me how she does, but her doing it to my friend ignites the fury of all seven hells in me.

>mum going on about how she should kill herself and no one would care
>friend gives beautiful answer how my dad always comes home to her and how it would destroy him if he didn't have any reason to go back to an empty home. some bullshit about how much I love her (I do love her, she just does fucked up shit) and how it would fuck me up for the rest of my life that she killed herself when I wasn't there to take care of her
>"see even you wouldn't care!"
>hasn't seen this girl in 5 fucking years

I hate being financially dependent on my parents. I need this degree, I was willing to suffer whatever games she played to get it. But I can't stand for her to treat my friend like that. I started to give her advice but it literally sounded like horror movie shit.

"Always lock your door. Never take any medicine she offers you. If you hear her crying don't leave your room no matter what."

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>finally get letter of recommendation to start hormones
>over 5 years after first appointment

>>6329547

Yep. I mentioned in another reply that I do plan on going stealth. My worry is what would happen if the cat comes out of the bag somehow. I'm almost certain I'll fuck up at some point, and if the wrong person finds out, who knows what will happen. Murphy's Law.

>>6329625
Nice! Good luck. I wish I came out much sooner. Now I have to convince my family this isn't some ideological internet bullshit.

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>>6332840

Time to get HENCH

>>6332697
your mother's a fucking narcissist holy shit anon

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>be mid 20's
>on T for a while and haven't had shark week
>suddenly comes out of fucking nowhere and don't have a goddamn thing for it
>panic sets in because I suddenly have to go to the store and pick some up after all this time
>actually somewhat pass too
>just praying that it's at least one of the sweet old ladies in there working at the very least
>go into the store
>only cashier is a guy about the same age as me and my stomach jumps into my throat
>think about just walking out and figuring out something else but I know that's dumb
>walk around the store for a while trying to muster up the courage
>finally just grab two boxes and go pay for them while I can see him eyeing me and trying to figure out what the fuck I even am
>quickly pay and leave and try not to break down on the way home
I haven't felt this humiliated in a long time. Just end me.

>>6334285
It's probably in your head because you were worrying about it. If he was payieng attention at all, you could have been picking some up for your sister or girlfriend or something.

>>6334285
Guys, what's the issue with tampons though? If you pass, it's easier to think you're buying them for someone else. I've been buying tampons for my mom for years and no one has ever given a shit.

>>6334285
Semi-passing pre-T trans dude here, when I need to buy tampons I just drag my roomie/best friend with me and more often than not people just will assume it[s for her

>>6334627
>>6334285

Buying tampons tends to be breddy fuggin awkward, cringey, and embarrassing for even cis males.

I've been forced (wouldn't do it otherwise) to get them for an ex gf and it was worse and more awkward than buying condoms or even anal lube with your boyfriend, and with the cashier shaking in homophobic rage, red in the face, obviously uncomfortable at the fact he was selling ass lube to fags.

Even cis guys have a negative reaction for buying tampons, so if you were looking awkward in the store it would be the typical cis male outward reaction.

I wouldn't worry about it, I really doubt they were thinking it was for you, they probably thought you were being an upstanding gentleman and buying them for your gf or something. The last thing they would think is that they're for you.

>>6335129
??? I never got this. I'm an mtf and before transitioning if i was going to buy something and my sister also asked me to get her tampons or whatever it wasn't anything of a big deal.

>>6335129
I don't think that's true for all men, it makes no sense. We all have wives\girlfriends\moms\sisters or whatever female relative who might be in need of tampons, my dad bought them too without much awkwardness. It's a bio function, fuck's sake. You're not buying XXL sized dildos.

>>6322939
>the progress is slower
This is just a meme
>>6321171
The gel rubbing off onto other people isn't really an issue, you have to have long term exposure to notice any effects of T anyway. Just put on clothes after it's applied to stomach, arms, or legs, and wash your hands afterwards. Really easy.

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>>6334285
I had a much more embarrassing story.

>been on T for a while, pass, and have my name and gender all legally changed
>didn't have shark week for ever
>at work one day, shark week premieres
>I'm literally only friends with guys and no one but my best friend (male) knows I'm trans
>I can't go home
>finally just suck it up and ask one of the girls there I say "hi" to sometimes it she can lend me a tampon
>I apologize for being incredibly awkward and weird and thank her
>spend rest of the day at work with literally the worst cramps I've had in my life, and embarrassment that makes me want to crawl in a hole and die

At least my doctor lol'd when I told her.

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>>6325324
100%

>>6328708
If you're into ftms then I don't care

>>6335129

I don't mind doing it, I've done it before for a girlfriend. Just own it, dude. Fuck anyone that judges and if anyone asks say "oh yeah it's for my sister/girlfriend/your bloody face if you ask me anymore questions"

>>6335192
Some of us do have bfs and gfs for naked cuddling.

>>6335289

>naked cuddling

Is that all you do when nakie?

>>6335179
>im mtf
Not cis male
Maybe that's why you were cool with it. Maybe I'm just way to concerned about awkwardness and thus create more all the time. Who knows.
>>6335190
I think while some occasional men either don't care or have grown used to it, I still will hold my opinion and observation that most cis men do not enjoy buying tampons for whatever female in their lives. I can see it becoming a non-issue with repetition though, kinda like how now I eventually stopped caring about buying condoms and just grabbed them like anything else, put them on the counter like anything else, and laughed internally at the cashiers awkwardness. Thankfully I haven't had to buy them in a while though so maybe that's changed.

>>6335289
You have nothing to worry about unless you're literally applying the gel right before said naked cuddling.

>>6335303
Sometimes I sleep. Oh, and naked home workouts.

>>6335383

>naked home workouts

I
AM
JEALOUS

Wish I had a home power rack

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>only successfully bought my own shark week products once
>with friends in drug store
>slip away
>locate and reach aisle, get the goods
>make way to checkout, avoiding witnesses
>stash goods in backpack before friends reappear
>not even male presenting
I don't know what my problem is.

>>6311620
you're supposed to alternate. left one time, right next.

>>6334569
>>6334627
I did say that I somewhat pass, but I'm still more on the androgynous side imo. I still get called by female pronouns by strangers on occasion and sometimes people aren't even sure what to call me it seems like.

So yeah, I definitely have some really bad anxiety over that because anything that takes away from me passing kills my spirit.

>>6335129
Pretty much this. I also never really did it much for myself, I'd tend to have other females I knew do it for me, so this was a very, very uncommon occurrence for me to do, especially at this stage of things.

>>6335279
I mean I'd externally be acting like nothing is up but internally while doing it I was like "ffffuuuuuuccckkkkkkk this shit" and I didn't like it. Same applies to many situations where forced to handle girl shit, like holding or even just handing over something like a purse. Even if it's for 2 seconds I still hate it.

>>6311620
it's the opposite for me, my right leg is easymode. but whenever I have to do the left, my hand gets shaky and I get super nervous and it takes like 5 minutes to get the needle in.

>>6335718

I flat out refuse to hold a girls handbag too, honestly. I wouldn't ask someone to hold my wallet.

>>6335762
Same here. Right leg is a joke, left leg I rarely get it done without pain.

Are you left handed? I am.

>>6335977
I seem to not have any issue with either leg other than trying to push past the skin a bit on my left because it's not as strong and I have less "control" over it or whatever.

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Has anybody here had anorexia as a coping mechanism for dysphoria?? Did the anorexia get better when you got on T?

Is there such thing as a strap-on that has a vibrator or something touching the clit that vibrates depending on how much it's moved or touched? Because I feel like that would do wonders for ftm in general, top and/or bottom.

>>6336251
I did, I'm still struggling with it. Not on T yet, will be this summer. Anorexia removed periods and curves. Only way not to kill myself was to be severely underweight.

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>>6336251
>Has anybody here had anorexia as a coping mechanism for dysphoria??

yes
I refused to leave the house before. even with a binder, 2 tshirts, baggy hoodies and cargo pants i still felt like people could tell i had a doughy girly face, huge legs and a feminine chest

probably not necessarily anorexia, as much as it is starving myself to get rid of my feminine fat pattern,
but its the only way i can get anything done, otherwise i'm too self conscious of what people can and cant see under my clothes.

i'm 19 and not on t, but i'd imagine i'd have no need for 'anorexia' if i was

>>6336293
No, but I've been thinking the same thing for years. Im really mad theres not a motion/touch sensitive strap on yet. Im sure the technology is there to make it possible.

>>6336313
Looks and sounds like anorexia, even if you have a specific reason for it. I hope shit gets better for you anon.

Would you take a girl tinker?

>>6336464
Why would I want a useless penis poisoned by estrogen to the point where it can't even properly function?

Same reason I don't want phalo. I want the real, properly functional thing or nothing at all.

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>>6336418
thanks mong

>>6336488
No I mean would you take a girltinker inside you?

How did you found out youre trans? I'm in a really confuse phase.

>>6336251
Yes I did, starved myself and whatnot. Most if not all of my body issues were fixed with t, the only other issues I have are with my breasts and those'll be gone soon too.

>>6336523
Wants sex change and/or hormones, has dysphoria=trans
Doesn't want those things, no dysphoria=not

>>6336588
o hey there bb

come here often?

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>tfw your addictive personality leads you to cope with the shit hand you've been dealt by eating the feelings away
>all ass and tits
>only consistent joy in life is food

>>6336595
Yes why?

>>6336630
I've been looking for you.

please b me husbando.

>>6336649
>I've been looking for you.
Do I know you?

>>6336655
n-no

i mean I see you on the lgbt but no

>>6336661
Oh ok. Well my email is [email protected]

>>6332697
google narcissistic mothers and how to deal
tldr break contact

>>6332697
Been in the same spot desu ended up cutting and running and I don't regret it even if it's hard
>never take any medicine
Well, shes not that fucked up
Manipulative, knows no boundaries, treats your body as hers yeah
Wanted to kill myself because of her for so long, then I moved out and even though I still dont have my shit together I feel better

>>6336692
>email

oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit im in it now

How bad is it to drink the night before an injection? Talking the lowest dosage possible here.

>>6336523
It took me a long time to figure it out. You really gotta ask yourself some tough questions like
>What do I hate about being a woman
>Would I feel better if I looked more masculine
>Would I be content with waking up with a guy's body magically
ect
Nobody can tell you a 100 percent perfect way to find out that you're trans or not, that's all on you my potential man

>>6336692
god u r autistic

>>6336811
I've never been diagnosed with it. They probably would have caught it by now if I were.

>>6336318
people are apparently working on it so we all just gotta hold tight and/or get some science in us

>>6336464
yeah

>>6335977
yep. left handed.

>>6304293
Is the skype group even still up? I added cheeki, but didn't get a reply back in weeks.

>>6336762
I don't think it matters all that much. Inject away, I've done it. I do know it's bad to do while you're drunk though.

>>6337351
It's up and active, but cheeki was out of the group for a while.

>>6337351
>>6338316
Just add the other account

>>6336831

Post neckbeard

>>6338498
Post dick

>>6338316

cheeki-breeki took a cheeki-breaki from stuff for a while, add duckduckfrog, he'll add you. Also he's a douche, but that's why we love him.

>>6338511

Anon this is a Christian image board.

>>6338519
What are you calling me a douche for

>>6338545

You're a douche, duck.

Quack quack motherfucker.

>>6330862
And I chase mtfs
<3

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>try to draw porn of women
>fail miserably because gay
>cant look at references because dysphoria

why did i choose this """""job""""" ftmg

>>6338759
>draw porn of men

Problem solved

>>6338866
i would (and do, mostly) but the amount of people who want to fuck women seem like a waste to ignore.

>>6338868

Draw a porno of Donald Trump fucking Jeb Bush in a really kinky BDSM way while calling him low energy and Jeb is crying.

>>6338872
you gotta give me money first babe

>>6338875

I'll give you a snickers

>>6338878
fuck off with your shit tier chocolate

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>>6338880

I'm gonna stuff my nutty bar down your throat and you will LIKE IT.

>>6338868
DA, where do you take requests? I need some spare cash

>>6338875
I'l gib you monies for swg getting fucked by a bunch of mtfs porn

>>6338882
disgusting

>>6338883
i have a patreon (like every self-respecting tranny) but i also have a tumblr you can send me asks on (hopskipandarump)

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>>6338888

>patreon
>tumblr

I thought we were supposed to be better than this

>>6338893
find me somewhere else online i can post my filthy porn thats not furaffinity. ive nearly been banned off of DA like 3 times now so i'm just giving up there, and most of the porn sites are "women pics only" or "men pics only".

>>6338898
So, how well does furry porn pay?

>>6338903
depends on how little shame you have and how much fetish stuff youre willing to draw. furries pay surprisingly well for their weird kinks.

thankfully i dont generally get furries commissioning me.

also furaffinity a shit

>>6338898

I am certain there are plenty, this is the goddamn internet. Tumblr is just... awful.

>>6338903

From what I've heard, it pays the best.

>>6338920
but tumblr, for all its faults, easily has the largest reach out of all those possible sites. i pretty much just hop on there to speak to friends and post art. i avoid most of the ~sjw~ drama, thankfully.

>>6338924

Tumblr IS the SJW drama. Consider your audience, man. I'm sure you'd earn bank on some niche backwater cess-pool of moral debauchery and debased horrors and you'd probably earn more than softcore wank on Bumblr.

I mean, look at InCase or Shadbase. Alright, the art isn't my cup of tea but they got profile without the Scumblr taint.

>>6338933
are you sure about that swg

>http://incaseart.tumblr.com/
>http://therealshadman.tumblr.com/

>>6338933
You're just opposed to it because it's Tumblr. An commission artist needs all the reach out he can get.
Also InCase has an established fame already.

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>>6338933
>niche backwater cess-pool of moral debauchery and debased horrors
Isn't that why we're here?

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>>6338935
>>6338937

Now I can never enjoy their trap/futa porn again

>>6338938

I'm here 4 u, bbe

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>>6338940
SWG, I...

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>>6338953

Anon, I...

>>6338962
Wait a sec, I'm not gonna fall for your smooth words that easily. My momma didn't raise no sucker!

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>>6338980

>My momma didn't raise no sucker!

Yes she did

mfw 2016 and swg is still hitting on boys

>>6338987

2016 and I hit on everybody.

Everybody needs love desu.

>>6338992
Your love is full of diseases, you slut

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>>6338995

AIDS needs love too, fampai

>>6339010
>tfw no AIDS all over my face

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>>6339024

Soon

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>>6338759
>thinks he's bad at drawing women because he's gay
>not because he's a bad artist

>>6339153
dudes are fine m8 but women are an anatomical mystery to me

>>6339165

Bullshit, you're ftm you have a woman's body

>>6339315
>implying i want to acknowledge female anatomy

>>6339153
It's a fact that ftms suck at female anatomy as they are doing all they can to ignore their own. I used to be like that too before I got on T etc. I used to only draw buff guys and now I only draw slutty women pretty much because I prefer how they look, as I don't compare them to myself anymore in any way.

>>6339323

>not wanting to acknowledge something is the same as it being a mystery

>>6339411
its a bit difficult to intensely practice and research something that makes you want to not exist any more

>>6338759
>>6339323
Good god, you are seriously fucking retarded.

All of my sexual experiences have been with cis girls so far but things are starting to heat up between me and this guy who, like me, has gotten top surgery but not bottom. I'm wondering if scissoring is still a method of getting off, as neither of us like vaginal penetration. I just don't want to do anything that might inadvertently cause him to think I'm treating him like a chick. It's literally a case of: we both have the parts and it doesn't make me dysphoric to scissor, but I understand that may not be the case with him. Are there any guys here who enjoy scissoring with someone who has the parts for it?

>>6339346
>It's a fact that ftms suck at female anatomy
This is obviously BS, not least because I can actually draw good women.
>as they are doing all they can to ignore their own female anatomy
Why would I associate some random naked woman's body I'm drawing with my own, or my identity? Why are you even thinking about this stuff when you're drawing? You should be thinking about construction, perspective, etc

>>6339601
>scissoring
This isn't actually a thing real people do, it's a thing porn made up. Go ask lesgen.

>>6339413
IDGI. If you get this level of triggered drawing women why doesn't drawing men trigger you too, shouldn't that remind you that you don't have a male body or a penis and don't look anything like a man?

>>6339749
brains are weird? intense denial? emotional detachment? its a mystery.

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>>6330524
no girls aloud. go back to your own containment gen

>>6339413

>research

There's no way you have to research what a female body looks like

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>>6333071
>>6336712
>>6336726

Thanks for your feedback, it's actually something I'm really going to have to talk to counselor about. I considered maybe she was a 'narcissist' but she has a lot of mental and physical problems and she's been through a lot of shit. So when I first read about traits of narcissist parents it didn't seem like a right fit, even though I fit 100% the profile of a narcissist's child. But reading more about it I think she's definitely... At least partially a narcissist. Which makes me feel guilty for even typing, if that says anything.

But I kind of brought it up to my counselor how I have trouble honestly expressing my emotions (I always preface them by apologizing and rationalizing any time someone's fucked me over, saying I 'understand' why they did something or why something happened and minimizing my own anger or hurt. she called me out like 3 times doing it in 30 minutes) because whenever I'd express something to my mother, she would blow it up into a huge thing and I'd end up comforting her rather than her comforting me... And my counselor said that sometimes catastrophizing things like that is the best way to control someone... It just really hit me. And considering her treating my friend the way she treated me forced me to admit a lot of things she did were fucked up.

It's a fucked up situation I guess I just wanted to say thanks for responding. I had originally rejected considering she was a narcissist because all of her illnesses make things complicated, and she's not overtly 'narcissistic'. I'm definitely going to do more research now, and talk to my counselor. Seems to be a lot of books so I'll read up right away...

http://www.willieverbegoodenough.com/narcissistic-mother-survey/

28/33 of those traits are her...

"Do you feel valued by mother for what you do rather than who you are?"

ouch... gonna feel that one for awhile...

>>6339746
Please excuse my use of common terminology that made you think of lesbian porn instead of more relatable wording for better distinction of the act.

>>6339858
>researching musculature
>researching poses
>researching different types of genitals

>>6340015

>needing to research genitals you have

>>6339729
Well I would say you're the exception to the rule, but then again maybe you're already on T or maybe you're some nonbinasy shit. The hell do I know about your experience, everyone deals with this shit differently.

>>6340026
>researching different types of genitals
>different types
>different
>types

>>6340047
There is no rule, you just made it up.
>The hell do I know about your experience
Nothing. So you realise how retarded you sound making a blanket statement about some niche issue you have and applying it to all FtMs now?
>nonbinary shit
In their defence, NB people have been known to take HRT too.

>>6340048
DA, stop responding to the b8

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>>6340249
>In their defence, NB people have been known to take HRT too.

Holla. I usually just lurk because I'm not a "REAL FtM", but I need to transition anyway. I've got the pain and dysphoria just the same. I just don't care as much about Becoming Man as I do about not being perceived as female. Its just not me.

Anyway, just wanted to say I appreciate that acknowledgement - now back to the shadows with me.

>>6340444
Same here. I've never felt like a girl and when I tried to be "manly" I didn't feel right either. I spent as many years as I could letting my androgyny direct people's perception, but that's starting to waver with age, so now I'm on a low dose of testosterone to deter people from identifying me as female. I loathe tumblrisms but I guess the word I've always been looking for to describe myself is "demiboy", though I certainly won't say it in real life.

>>6305598
I'm curious about this as well, cause now I wonder if it's too late for me to get top surgery, given that the body doesn't heal as well with age, especially where it concerns skin elasticity. I've been binding for over ten years, though I'm pretty flat-chested as it is. I'd likely qualify for keyhole but I know peri is possible too.