>tfw i can and i enjoy to get off to nude men fapping and

>>5374424
You're attracted to men, but not gay sex? Sounds like denial.

>>5374424
>Being this deep in denial

>>5374424
Being disgusted by gay people and avoiding them while masturbating to pictures of men all the time sounds a lot like being in the closet.

The only correct answer to "what sexual orientation am I?" is "who the fuck cares".

>>5374525
>>5374544
But denial of what?, i like women too

>>5374559
It's not complicated. If you're really that confused go bang a dude and see how it feels.

>>5374555
I do care, because i fear of not getting aroused enough with women or men and doing something i don't really want to do.

>>5374576
> i fear of not getting aroused enough with women or men and doing something i don't really want to do.
I don't get it. Have sex with people you're attracted to, and don't have sex with people you aren't? There's nothing wrong with deciding on a case-by-case basis, it's not like just because you're bi you're obliged to fuck dudes.

>>5374559
>I enjoy cocks

>>5374559
Look, you're obviously afraid of being homosexual or even bisexual. The whole, "I hate homos" while jacking off to guys is what almost every gay guy here went through. Self hatred is usually the first step in coming out.

>>5374679
Pretty much exactly this

Get over your 'disgust' of gay people and you will feel a lot better, whether or not you are actually gay.

Do you hate gays? Do you think they're bad people or that it's wrong to be gay? Or do you hold negative stereotypes that they're all effeminate dorks or fat bears?

A lot of gay guys started just like you, finding both 'attractive' but unable to let go of the man porn. It could turn out that you're just a straight guy/bisexual guy afterall, but you need to be able to say to yourself that it's okay to be gay, and if you are attracted to men there's nothing wrong with that.

>>5374424
>3D gay sex is 2nasty4me
>what the fuck am i?
autistic

Dick fetish is common among straight guys but
>get off to nude men fapping
means you are at least a bisexual. Your disgust of gay sex and not wanting to date guys is just internalized homophobia. Sorry.

Counterpoint: Gay sex is gross.

>>5374818
I don't hate gays, it's just that i find gay sex 2nasty and rough for my tastes and the idea of having sex with another guy which i know surely lacks of a proper hygiene like women use to have, makes me want to puke.

>Or do you hold negative stereotypes that they're all effeminate dorks or fat bears?
probably this, but most gay guys i've met were pretty much the definition of this, or pretty close. Sometimes even worse, like fat effeminate bears or ugly twinks that use girly clothes like really short shorts and tight t-shirts and walk in a pretty weird way. Not to mention that all of them speak with this girly stupid accent, it seriously put me off in less than a second

>>5374679
i would be ok with being bisexual if gays weren't like this>>5374983 , truth is that most of them actually are like that.

>>5374840
I don't hate guys because of dating other guys, i'm just sick of the effeminate ugly homos who like to dress in ridiculous ways and behave girly as fuck 24/7, and of course as i've said, the idea of penis in man ass is kinda gross imo.

>>5375010
Sounds like a lot of bullshit to me. "I don't like gay guys because the way they act. I'm totally different!" This is also what every other gay guy has said to themselves before coming out. Please, just accept the fact that you like guys and this will be 90% easier for you.

>>5374983
Would you get a bj from a dude? Would you touch a guys dick?

I've had my fair share of nasty gays, like bitchy twinks, or the fatties who complain about not having a fit hot bf because 'everyone else is too shallow'. It's hard to shake those experiences from shaping your opinion of all gay men if that's been your experience. Just try to remember they tend to be the most obvious gays. You probably know plenty other gays who are more subtle and just don't come out to everyone they meet. I guess they're like the crazy Christians calling for death of gays- a loud minority but not like most Christians.

Guys can be hygienic just like women. You pick up on clues beforehand about how hygienic someone is, like how much they touch their face, how clean and neat they are, how they smell, how neatly cut their hair is etc. There are no shortage of smelly women or smelly men. Just find one (whatever gender) that isn't smelly. (btw, If you are a straight dude, try to be hygienic for your woman. It's not okay for a straight guy to just lack hygiene because that's the womans job.)

Being gay doesn't mean you have to have anal. Some gays are happy just sucking each others cocks. I can't get off to anal porn myself.

You're mostly straight and have a bit of a fetish for gay porn. Totally normal op, chill the fuck out. There's way too much focus on labeling yourself and not enough on simply not giving a fuck.

>>5374983
The amount of neurosis in this one post defies comparison. Lots of gay dudes have expert hygiene, wash their booties religiously, make sure they smell good, shower, preen and pluck their bodies to no end. You are probably just taking a look at your own nastiness and projecting it onto others, as many straight and bi men do when they think of gay sex. They think all males must be as nasty and unhygienic as them and so gay sex must be unusually nasty.

And don't forget when you're in the sex moment you're lizard brain is the only part active...you don't reflect on what you're doing, so you don't think about how nasty sex intrinsically is.

>>5375229
why would i say im gay if i like girls too and feel more comfortable around them actually?.
Thing with dudes is merely sexual

>>5375454
Probably the most accurate answer

>>5375234
>Would you get a bj from a dude? Would you touch a guys dick?
Yep, but only that, anal sex doesn't seem appealing at all

> You probably know plenty other gays who are more subtle and just don't come out to everyone they meet. I guess they're like the crazy Christians calling for death of gays- a loud minority but not like most Christians.
Probably another accurate answer, but never happened to me that another gay subtle person said anything about him being gay.

>btw, If you are a straight dude, try to be hygienic for your woman. It's not okay for a straight guy to just lack hygiene because that's the womans job
i know, but everybody knows that women are demanded to be 100% hygienic and clean shaven, while women don't really expect that much of men and some even like hairy dudes despite of how sweaty and disgusting that could be.

>>5375547
Okay, sure, but a fetish for gay porn doesn't exist.

>>5375577
You can have a fetish for a lot of things. I fap to an incredible number of things that have zero appeal to me in real life, because that's how porn fetishes work. You just kind of find a thing that works for whatever reason, doesn't mean you're actually into whatever you're watching or would ever do it. It's a fantasy. It's actually pretty widely accepted in the research that a large percentage of straight men either have gay thoughts or watch gay porn occasionally.

>>5375010
maybe you're just a side.

>>5374424
You watch too much porn and probably masturbate too much. That's it, really.

Suck enough dick and you won't find it gross anymore.

>Would you get a bj from a dude? Would you touch a guys dick?
>Yep, but only that, anal sex doesn't seem appealing at all
The fleshy, mechanical aspects of anal sex, or vaginal sex really, are not the stuff of sexy daydreams. It feels good when you're doing it, is the point. You're probably focussing on the "dick in arsehole" part of the equation too much.

Porn is artificial. If you want to get a good gauge for how attracted you are to males, go out and look at some. Go to a coffee shop or something and surreptitiously ogle all the young men, evaluate them sexually. If you do that a few times and don't see anyone you'd like to fuck, you're pretty straight.

>>5375547
>never happened to me that another gay subtle person said anything about him being gay.
Yeah no shit. Unless they want to bang you why would it ever come up?