The Meth-Fueled, Weeklong Orgies Ravaging London's Gay Sex-Party

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If you're already doing meth it's pretty safe to say your life has already gone straight down the shitter.

Gays once again leading the way in disgusting self-destructive behavior.

>>5367763
We'll sidestep the sensationalist skinless dick bit.

Not to take away from the tragedy, but to focus attention on solutions: the substance doesn't matter. You could inject a gallon of absinthe in your scrotum. People in a "sex party scene" are going to destroy themselves somehow because they have deep issues and lack of healthy support.

>>5367834

Oh please. Gays need to start taking responsibility for their shitty life choices.

>>5367981
I never absolved gays of culpability, m8. But no homo is an island. An island chain at least. Homo archipelago? Anyway, point stands, faggot.

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>>5367834

Fair, but what I am trying to emphasize, as I think I alluded to in OP if not explicitly, is that its one thing to have some debauched party.

When you commercialize it into a 'scene' you are really dealing with a potential hazard.

I remember specifically Washington DC circuit parties, and I'm fairly certain it was in a number of major population hubs. That fucking met and those goddam circuit parties.

One of the many reasons I am not popular with the other lgbt types is my tendency to rant about shit no one is talking about. During the period, everyone was talking about this right and that right, but no one wanted to take responsibility for all the vice gay business owners were promoting.

This 'culture' everyone goes on about is simply the unholy union of vice peddlers merging with political wranglers. This 'culture' pulls in the average joe into life destroying vice, and the wide appeal starts to overlap into identity hustlers.

Then the aftermath, broken lives, destroyed youth, poverty. But thats not glamorous. No one wants to talk about the older ones exploiting the younger ones and then ditching them. I dont mean a few sleazeballs, I mean a visible pattern of exploitation of older people exploiting youthful naivete.

They convince them to 'come out' for reasons that have nothing to do with the persons own good, then jack them up on hedonism and 'scenes' and then when a legion of young people are demolished, the silence is deafening.

There is so much shouting about what 'straighty' is doing and how its so unfair that there isn't any oxygen spent on our own internal hustlers.

Every damn generation. I've said it time and again. The young homosexual has no greater threat and enemy than other homosexuals.

Sorry for ranting.

>>5367834
>We'll sidestep the sensationalist skinless dick bit.

that's pretty horrendous. Came straight out of the mouth of the guy who first started the whole scene and seen it all.

Sigh... It's back with a vengeance but what's even worse is the music is god damn shitty and ghetto too.

That documentary on YouTube isn't helping. It's an hour of hearing a few gay guys glamorizing the shit out of the stuff while rhythm is a dancer (or something) plays in the background.

>>5368157
OK, I dig what you're laying down and I respect it. In fact we're on the same page. I haven't half the exp you do from the sound of it, but I came to the same conclusions. I hear you. I've been thinking a lot about some kind of work to help people here (and perhaps the queer population in general). Thoughts on action?

>>5368284
It is terrible. I always assume the bleeding lead is overstated, but no doubt a problem.

>>5368371
>Thoughts on action?

Well, I dont know where you are. You might not like my advice, depending on how deeply you are invested in the 'identity' end of this, or how deeply you perceive it is invested in you.

If you want to help- and this may sound a little abstruse, my apologies- I would first take some time to decide who your people really are. By that, I mean the people you identified with before any of this other stuff came into your view. People you relate to that are young and seem they might have a shot but are at risk, people who really want a little help somehow. They dont have to have any sexuality issues, they can be anyone. People are just people first. When you know who your people really are, the community you always called home in your head, then you can relate better. Young people are the easiest to help because they usually have the least self inflicted damage to their hopes and self expectations.

It doesnt have to take any particular form. For some people, its just what they do for a living. For others, it just is someone in their normal orbit. When instead of being some group or program, when its just human to human, you have the best shot at actually making a difference. For some, it brings out the parenting instinct...

>>5368906


... Its not charity or guidance or mentoring or any of that, because it helps you too. It keeps a part of your mind awake that may have slumbered otherwise. Because we dont normally have our own kids, it can fill a spot in our own human development that can reinforce who we are as humans.

It can be difficult sometimes, because as people grow, they change. Everything fades. People pop in and out of ones life constantly.

So I can't tell you what shape it takes for you. Its not a rescue, and I dont recommend making it a cause. Its just a human thing to do for ones own.

And as odd as it sounds, its not something to get too emotionally invested in. One just does it because it can be done. There may actually never be that much rapport, and sometimes thats better.

I guess that doesnt sound very helpful and leaves a lot of blanks to fill in, but then thats sort of the point. If you want to volunteer social work, you can, but thats not really what I mean. That can burn one out, distort their views and tie ones time too close to it.

There is or will be someone around that is young and looks like they could use some help, or some kind words. Its not so important that they heed them, but that they remember them.

You might be surprised someday how valuable it is for one to learn from their own memories, things they didnt see the first time around. You can give them a little mental tool kit. In times of crisis, when you aren't around, they might remember what you said, and it becomes the starting point to repair a broken path or lost perspective.

We can give time or resource, true. But the best investment for humans is in the people around us we call our own without any names for it.

And when they grow, the return is in the world around you, the little things that aren't obvious...

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>>5368908

Sorry if this isn't helpful. I just offer it in faith that as you find the details, you will understand it better when its time to discover the context you want to apply them to.

Have a good night.

And they say AIDS isn't a problem anymore...

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I hate that the media is just now making a huge frenzy over chemsex. It's literally been a thing in the gay sex scene since the 70's. It's nothing new. Drugs and sex have gone hand and hand for years.

>>5368910

FUCK

>>5367763
I have nothing to contribute to this thread, but my ex had a boston terrier puppy and its making me feel feels every time i scroll past this thread. fuk u, op

/blog

>>5368157
Questions.

1) How old are you?
2) When did older men exploiting younger ones become a problem? I thought hedonism in this case was equally partaken by both the old and the young. That's always been my perception of it.

>>5372473
>When did older men exploiting younger ones become a problem? I thought hedonism in this case was equally partaken by both the old and the young.

It's as old as time.

>>5368910
I appreciate your perspective. You're talking about everyday kindness and I do try. I suppose I'm not serene enough to accept it fully. I want to build something. Gay Boys Club of America. That doesn't sound like a pedo ring, right? Well maybe there's a way to keep the paperwork down at least. Thanks, pal.

>>5368157
i couldn't have said it better myself.

there are gay people (mostly older) who have a financial stake in promoting various lifestyles. and they establish their reputations by supporting gay rights and encouraging people to come out of the closet.

but that does not absolve them of their responsibility in promoting lifestyles that are fueled by addiction.

>>5368157
Holy shit.
This!

why do gay men not care for each other?

This has been going on forever, it's called party and play, or PnP. For the pharmaceutical industry it's called their cash cow.

>>5367763
>>5376718
Pretty sure any escort that has "will party" in advert or "party girl" means she is taking and offering chems.
I am bi and there are plenty of escorts for hetero guys who do this as well btw