/mtfg/ Transgirl General

First for for big meaty cocks.

>tfw no anyone

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would you go on a date with him, /mtfg/?

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>looking for phone
>huh its next to my desk thats weir-
>screen is shattered

>>5199969
It's the lizards.. RUN!!

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6th for your crush goes offline

>>5199968
yes

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I want to cuddle with elanna ;_;

>>5199976
pls don't sheen

>>5199966
Underrated post

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>>5199974
iktf and I will be feeling it later ;_;

>>5199973
I don't even know how it fell off, it was either lizards or ghosts

>>5199981
So much for being straight

Do you wish it were still Sunday?

Is that your funday?

ok which one of you did this https://soundcloud.com/lastwordsfirst/chasers

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>>5199988
JUST ANOTHER MANIC MONDAY

>>5199966
my sides

>>5199982
o-okay

>>5199990
Omg I'm humming that now haha.

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>>5199974
tfw bf falls asleep

>>5199981
SLUT

>>5199966

Same tbhon family

>>5199994
the dentist i go to plays that song literally every time i go there, sometimes i hear it twice a visit
i wonder how they can stand working there

>>5199986
such is life

I used to have an iphone that got horribly cracked when it fell out of my pocket and fell perfectly face first into asphault

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Ban spider posters

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>>5200004
theres literally nothing wrong with being a spider

>>5200010
Yass

>>5200010
so close to those numbars
also that's mean we australians are nice!

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>>5199981
Sigh, have they gone and turned you Kit?
Damn shame.

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>>5200010
>tfw no spider bf

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>>5200010
>1000 mana, 500 HP
>HP is blue and mana is green

>>5200010
Where's the lebanon flag

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>>5200010
Spiders!

REEEEEEE

Caddies the prettiest girl on here

Source: straight male

>>5199981
before or after she gets plowed by her ex?

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>>5199981
>laying in bed lurking before sleeping
>see this post
>nearly have a heart attack
>go back to last thread to compare tripcodes
>"o-oh, OK ;_;"
Well played, looks like I won't be falling asleep soon

>>5200040
>male
U sure about that :^)

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i got an e-mail back from mau5trap after sending them a demo and they said they want to hear more of my music
i'm so nervous i could die, i'm barely into my transition and i don't know how to dj if i get called to play live or something
should i just ignore the e-mail?

>>5200047
Yes I'm on hormones but still a straight male.

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so...close...

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>>5200048
Ask Jocelyn.

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Another birthday come and gone, another year wasted. Ever get the feeling that you're just running nowhere fast?

>>5200048
Just answer it, you baka.

>>5200056
why would i ask her? she hates me

>>5200053
i know this feel sort of.
still considered myself male while two years into hrt.
don't let the posters here tell you how to identify, man.
do you.

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>>5200054
O-only 6 more hours

>>5200061
That pic is my life...fuck my shit senpai.

>>5200065
>do you
I'm literally gonna do me right now if you know what I mean.

>>5200053
I bet you have nice skin for a boy

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>>5200040
Disregarding how blatantly untrue that is, even if I'm your favorite you could at least spell my name right!! <3

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>>5200074
awww yeah nigga

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>tfw going to hug 3 pillows all night again

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>>5200053
>>5200065

>>5200061
hey I've only been here for a few months, and it's motivated me to make some major changes

but I feel like I have to leave if I want to get more things done

>>5200076
Yep and a purty mouth too.

Caddies funnier than all of you and cuter

Source; straight male


>>5200053
Quit pretending to be me. Im not a faggot

>>5200065
Lmao time for boogie posts my favorite thing lately. You're an awful person but I love high quality shitposts

>>5200081
Whoa who is this semen demon?

8/10 would fug

>>5200084
Ok now you're just fishing for people to insult me

>>5200081
ITT mtfs that look like men try to tell men that look like mtfs that they are mtf.
don't you see the irony in your refusal to respect other people's identities.

>>5200080
hey, I'm pretty much over my crush, and this 2nd week is better

life is better without all the feelings

>>5200053
>>5200065
i identify as a big strong man with titties

>tfw laying in bed and the blanket rubs a nip.

I shouldn't be turned on by this..

>tfw you still have only ever ordered one dress that looks good on you
Why are dresses so hard to wear, /mtfg/?

>>5200087
ur mum

>>5200094
so wear pants then

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>tfw no uno's deep dish pizza
I'm thinking about driving 8 hours to chitown just to get some of this delicious pizza.

>>5200094
At least you have one
>tfw no dresses look good on you

>>5200077
I think you're the prettiest here tbqh
Isnt it caddies when I add the s to it?

>>5200088
Ill chill on the comparison stuff.
You make me laugh though. Im really funny id make you laugh for sure

>>5200101
literally every dress pic you have posted you have looked cute

>>5200084

You illiterate retard. "Caddies" is wrong. It should be "Caddy's funnier". As in "Caddy is funnier".

If you really care about someone, you'll use proper grammar when referring to them in text, you dullard.

>>5200081
This trans girl is prettiest in mtfg.

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>>5200089
why is gay man still here?

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>>5199981
>>5199986
>>5199997
>>5200017
>>5200041


this wasn't my post...

>>5200109
Why is straight man still here?

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>>5200090
i can't not feel these feels

goodnight

>>5200099
One of those pizza's is like 4,990 calories lol.

So worth it though.

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>>5200103
If you were talking about multiple small containers it would be caddies. When you're using a proper name and shortening "Caddy is" it becomes Caddy's.

Yeah, don't... don't instigate. I'm not prettier or funnier than anyone. It's all preferences and opinions any way.

>>5200106
Shell forgive me once I make her laugh.

>>5200112
I was the same way, but it gets better when you give up on your crush

I left a message for mine and I never got a response, so I just had to get a clue

gn

>>5200111
this is straight man general tbhon

>>5200104
Hugboxer pls, they all make my butt look too big

Really though, the sailor one is too big and makes my shoulders look wide, the blue gingham one is too small and also makes my shoulders look big, the striped one is just ugly and the black skater one is kinda plain

>>5200110
Sure it wasn't

>>5200125
kek

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>>5200126
I like boys tho ;~;

>>5200097
B-but pants aren't as pretty as dresses. And this one makes me look kinda curvy. I need more like it.
>>5200126
>they all make my butt look too big
Fucking white women, I swear.

>>5200107
image search it, friend

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>>5200116
>One of those pizza's is like 4,990 calories lol.

survey: is laura jane grace a hon?

>>5200121
Welp its been an hour and ive already made you mad. Sadly that's not a new record for me :^)

Whatcha drinkin?

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>>5200136
I think she's pretty. Her speaking voice is fine too.

>win 7 games in a row
>"hey i think I'm getting the hang of this"
>lose 6 games in a row
D :

Imagine.
Having a strong man, behind and over you, laying in bed, doing sex acts. He'll put two of his fingers in your mouth, holding your arm with his other hand, while breathing in your neck and whispering you things.

#tfwnobf

>>5200136
ur a little faggot arent you?

>>5200140
iktf

>>5200136

Not in the proper sense no, but I guess inthe looser, dumber
"anyone that doesnt entirely pass or is older than here" sense, yeah.

A female voice would help her a lot in that regard but I understand the reluctance given her job and stuff

>>5200138
>mad
Oh please, don't sweat it. I'm not mad.

It's finally cold where I am and I wanted a heavy and dark beer so I grabbed a milk stout called Nitro.

What's everyone else drinking?

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>>5200128
Sure you do~

>>5200129
They do though!
>Fucking white women
My counselor said that too when I complained about wearing a dress ;~;

>>5200136
Sometimes she looks like poop and singing with a male voice is a bit weird, but other times she seems cool

>>5200010
>implying it's not the snakes you should be worried about
Pretty much no one dies from spiders in straya.

>>5200154
That's a rump
>>5200146
I'll never be good at dota i should kust give up i cant do anything

>>5200139
hey, maybe I should just keep my boy voice too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m59u7A4okPw

>>5200154
butt

>>5200154
intersex

>>5200116
>>5200135
It's a coma induced heaven. I'm gonna order two, eat one there, and take one home to go.

I really like how Genesis P-Orridge presents h/erself. like s/he's basically mtf, but s/he's always just been like "i'm doing my own weird thing over here. I could give a fuck what people think because i've taken enough acid."

>>5200153
Vodka! It's so cheap here in America; pretty sure I'd be an alcoholic with murican booze pricing and availability.

>>5200162
I don't know what you mean...

I love that singing voice but it's strange hearing it coming out of her for sure. I feel like I've heard her speaking voice much more feminine but maybe I'm remembering wrong. I never really got into her band but every interview I've seen of her she seems really level headed and like a generally good person.

>>5200136
Anyone that starts transition after 20 and is attracted to women is a hon.

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>tfw no lover
>>5200154
i do tho ! why don't you believe meee ;~;

>>5200153
I know you're not you have too much of a sense of humor to get mad over silly things. Just sone self depreciation against myself.

I am just drinking water after eating five slices of pizza. Watching YouTube videos chillin.

Do you watch a lot of daytime talk shows? I have no clue where you get those gifs at tbqh

>>5200135
I am having pizza on the 20th and its going to be so good and I am looking forward to it

>>5200184
if you see in the link, her voice is not fem at all. And yeh, she's sharp

>>5200185
wait so at 19 you wouldn't be a hon? isn't that still after puberty? I thought it was supposed to mean they were cringey and fetishy. I never get that vibe from laura jane

did anyone else here read that study suggesting all women are basically bisexual? like its coming from major outlets too not like the fucking new frontiersman or something. kind of makes a lot of this hon stuff seem facile

>>5200197
Shitposter's logic is flawed, more news at 7.

>>5200188
hey it's this post again
>>5200197
I started at 19 and I'm a hon. I could have started at 14 and iwould be a hon. Some people who start at 28 are beautiful.

>>5200197
"hon" is to /lgbt/ as "c u c k" is to 4chan

>>5200209
>>5200197
yeah don't believe the hon-hype
if you put effort into it and that can mean surgeries you will be a qt

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>>5200197
>cringey and fetishy. I never get that vibe from laura jane
I beg to differ hon.

>>5200205
>I'm mad lets call shitpost

>>5200207
hi

>>5200209
Is there a filter for kek?

>>5200215
What's up?

>>5200212
>putting in the effort
passable, yes
qt, no, you just have to be born w the right genetics

>>5200212
This tbhon.

>>5200182
Is it cheap here compared to other places? I never knew.

>>5200190
>you have too much of a sense of humor to get mad over silly things
OMG you're really sprung aren't you?

Daytime talk shows? What? I don't know what gifs you're referring to but I definitely don't watch talk shows. If you mean the book covers, I just see them and think they make great reaction images.

>>5200191
What's the occasion?

>>5200196
yeah I watched the video and that's what I was referring to. IDK why I thought she sounded different.

>>5200197
It's just a baseless insult.

>>5200209
This is a great way to put it. They're just words that have no meaning except for being derogatory.

>>5200185
I don't think you understand what a hon is.

The term "hon" originated on the 420th chan, in their tranny board, many years ago. Long before legbutts was a thing here. It came about because we'd make fun of people on places such as Susan's Place, Laura's Playground, etc. It was because they were men in dresses, basically, and the way they talked is what brought about the term - i.e. a man in a dress saying "You look great, hon! ;)" to a man in a dress asking if he passes. We made fun of it, because they way they looked, talked, and acted were nothing but a grotesque caricature of what they though a real woman would do.

Here are some examples in this thread of honlike speech - people acting like a ridiculous caricature, rather than acting like real women.

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>>5200154
>>5200139
This one is a special case. Delusional - thinks people pass when they very clearly do not - hugboxer.
>>5200129
>>5200128
>>5200112
>>5200110
>>5200087
>>5200080
>>5200078
>>5200077

There are many, many more, but I got lazy. Various indicators include always posting with an anime girl pic, using smileys and such, etc. There are all sorts of reasons I selected these posts as examples.

I'm about to hit the 7 year mark - please for the sake of me and other trannies, try to be more realistic, and less of a caricature. Also please don't take this too personally, I don't want to hurt you, I just want you to improve.

>>5200204
Most cis women are straight according to recent statistics.

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>>5199957
Hey, so suppose I was thinking of transitioning how fuck am I with this jawline?

>>5200230
>trying to explain to me what hon means
Do you know who your talking to anon?

I came up with the hon insult on 420chan years ago and people started using it and making it mean what they want.

A hon is basically any trans mtf that doesn't pass but mostly refers to old mtfs.

>>5200233
You won't know until you try. The sides of the jaw are fine. The middle is the problem, but the rest of your face shows potential. Worst case scenario you can save up and get a chin job after being on hormones for several years. Trust me, you (or anyone) can hide their transition pretty well with enough effort, at least for a while.

>>5200243
>mostly refers to old mtfs
I think you need to update your definition

>>5200233
It's going to be harder, but it's also something fixable by surgery.
>>5200243
>I came up with the hon insult
Sure, I believe you.

>>5200233
Might need ffs
>>5200232
What a surprise

>>5200226
>What's the occasion?
end of my current diet which means no more foul tasting shakes, then on saturday I will do a fast like I was doing as part of this diet and then on sunday I'm making a practice christmas turkey so I know what I'm doing for christmas day/
then on monday I'm going back on keto.

>>5200230
>>5200243
>I came up with the hon insult
woah we got some hipster hons here.

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OK so I sent a msg to a boy I like asking him how his weekend went ;~~;

UGH idk if that was smart i immediately felt strange about it after i sent it thoo ;_;

>>5200218
nm i'm just nervous rn

i hope you are well.


ANYWAYS there is a lot of construction going on rn in my house and its giving me a headache so i'm going to mosey for a bit

see yall later

How do boobs grow for a mtf on hrt.
Like I got the breast budding.
But they never really hurt.
I mean they always have a slight dull tender feeling.
Usally only if I touch it.
But there is def growth cause I can feel the tissue starting under my arm pits.

But how do they grow?
I can't seem to find anything on the web about it.
Like is it a web of tissues that slowly expands outwards?

Also why do the inside of my breast itch?
I know it's an indicator of growth.
But why do the insides of my breast itch? Sometimes it feels like there are needles in my breast and I have to scratch the shit out of them to relive them.
But what is the science behind why they itch?
the itch isn't coming from dry surface skin, like it literally feels like it's coming from the inside.

Some one please tell me I'm really curious

>>5200226
I mean the one with the dog fetish mtfg picture and a few others. I dont know why but I picture you drinking wine watching daytime judge judy shows lol.

>sprung
Its ahh a little too early to be talking about my cock isn't it? ;)
Im just kidding I knew what you meant and you're ok I guess...

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>>5200243
>I came up with the hon insult on 420chan years ago

>>5200233
A quick google search pulls up 20k. Is that about right?

>>5200243

>Do you know who you are talking to, anon?

Some delusional tranny?
Not to mention, you're posting as "Anonymous" so that's pretty self-explanitory.

>A hon is basically any trans mtf that doesn't pass but mostly refers to old mtfs.

This fits in with what I was saying.

Not to mention, it takes far more than one person to start a meme - not that you even "did it first" (which I know you can't prove). The board culture definition of hon was exactly what I said. It's the meaning most commonly used and understood by the posters of the time.

>>5200232
yeah dawg but they're referring to a new study that showed as much as 40% of heterosexual women in the experiment also had a sexual response to homosexual stimulus.

>>5200258
This is what I was talking about.

Look at the language. No naturally born female on this Earth talks like that. This person is a caricature - in many different ways, too.

>>5200264
damn it! I want one of those
the best I've ever gotten was "well memed"

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>>5200274

>>5200243

My nan works for Nintendo.

>>5200230
this whole post is super autistic and masculine tobehon

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>>5200230
>Delusional - thinks people pass when they very clearly do not - hugboxer
Isn't hugboxing when you're being nice but don't actually believe what you're saying or is giving any positive opinion about someone hugboxing? Because I might be delusional, sure I can see that, but I actually do think she's pretty.

>>5200256
This all seems really complicated but I hope it's working for you.

>>5200261
As far as the itching goes, stretching skin becomes dry which itches. I don't know the science behind breast growth though. I'm sure someone out there has studied it though.

>>5200263
LOL I HAVE A JOB! I can't just get hammered at noon and watch Judge Judy and Divorce Court all day.

>Its ahh a little too early to be talking about my cock isn't it? ;)
It's like I'm really on OKC!

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>>5200233
Here's me dolled up

>>5200278
SAVED

>>5200289
Hey you were the one asking if I was sprung! Give me a break lol.

Unlike those creeps on okcupid I have a three thread rule before I start getting creepy :^)

>tfw will never watch divorce court all day because caddy is responsible

>>5200261
Grows the same way as on a cis girl, only that on cis girls they usually hit tanner stage 5, while on mtfs they often don't even get to tanner stage 3.

>>5200289
>I'm eating pizza and watching Stephen Colbert
>Nice. You wanna suck a dick tonight?
holy shit my sides

>briefly consider posting pic of myself
>remember that everything I post is here forever
>tomorrow
>next week
>1 year
>10 years

do any of you regret posting pics? I know I would.

>>5200289
>This all seems really complicated but I hope it's working for you.
I was 122.9kg this morning, total of 11kg
I want to hit 120 by the time the shakes are over next week, if I am lucky it will be a little bit more but, it puts me roughly where I was last year before everything fell apart.
keto was working well, and I hope it does again.

>>5200304
you can do it, sheen.
just remember, nothing tastes better than being skinny

>>5200261
Have you ever punched your boob into a door
Dude it hurts
>>5200300
So the answer is yes right?
>>5200302
I regret posting my butt

>>5200302
It's a bad idea yeah.
These archiving sites should be shut down, for like, copright infringement or something, since they're literally stealing the content on 4chan.

4chan was basically made to have the content disappear, having archive sites defeats the whole point of 4chan.

>>5200302
Thats what unsee is for

>>5200291
seems like you've put in some time. have you ever presented in public?

>>5200302
i've posted a bunch of really unflattering or even illegal pics in my time, I don't really care. It's not gonna affect me.

>>5200302
just delete it afterwards and it won't be here forever

>>5200286
>implying I give a fuck what you think

Read some writing by women, at some point, my good man. You will find none here.

Even if I talk like a big strong autistic man (i.e. basement dwelling fat neckbeard) what you say does nothing to shoot down my point - which is that the people I pointed out (likely includes you, seeing your reaction) talk like a ridiculous caricature of what they think a woman should sound like. No woman talks like that.

Maybe I should listen to you, and dumb down my writing so I sound more like what you think a woman should sound like.

i'm keeping the jewboy

>>5200315
is it true that you detrans?

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How bad do you feel about missing your youth?

For me, it always stings with sadness when I see any media that is of youths doing youth things.

>>5200307
I am looking forward to 90kg/200lb the most.
its at that weight that I am no longer obese

>>5200316
Archive sites saves everything, even if you delete it.

i'm taking the jewboy

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>>5200318
Forgot my pic.

>>5200321
Yeah. Still on HRT but not transitioning until I feel comfortable doing so

>>5200322
real bad desu senpai
Not even necessarily just being able to experience some kind of normal youth, but how badly it's fucked me up not having that. I don't know how to interact with people or do anything because I spent from 14 onwards sitting in my room trying to forget I exist

>>5200312
nope, I'm super nervous. I went out for Halloween and was hit on while on the train.

I'm passing on omegle right now. my heart is running.

>>5200302
I mean, I feel like I won't care that I posted my pictures.
But in the small chance that a couple years down the line someone figures out my online persona, I wouldn't want them to be able to find my posts on mtfg.

so... I don't know I guess. yolo

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>>5200300
>>5200309

Someone gave me a really great follow up to use asking about the condoms.

>>5200304
Well I'm glad. Keep going.

>>5200302
I mean, my attitude is, I'm going outside, there are going to be, I don't know, a hundred people that are going to see what I look like so what if it's a thousand or a million? This is what I look like. I have to see people in real life any way so what's the difference if people here around the globe see me?

>>5200322
Yeah it bothers me too. The things I know I'll never ever be able to change bother me the most.

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>>5200332
>my heart is running

How else could you be posting?

i'm taking the jewboy

>>5200331
that's interesting b/c
I'm doing everything but hrt
just gatekeeping myself until I'm certain I'm trans

>>5200332
passing isn't easy and being a fem is a ton of work

I made so many mistakes, and still do forget a thing or two
but you just have to keep trying until that one day you become invisible and no one notices -
it's very anticlimactic

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I'm never even sure if I'm binge watching House M.D. for the show, or for Dr. House at this point.

>>5200358
It's both.

I sort of miss that show, but I think I'm over it now.

>>5200358
i watched it for both till it god boring

>>5200341
Why have sex when you can have pizza
>>5200358
It's for House. He's amazing. His show is amazing.

I am keeping the jew-boy.

>>5200358
house is a pain in the ass with a limp

-ew

How old and how long on hormones were you when you made an OkCupid /mtfg/? What kinds of replies do you get? Do you reply to others?

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>>5200375
No. He's mine.

>>5200355
I think it would be worth it though.
Fuck, I dated a ftm before and totally chicken out asking for advice just now.

>>5200369
Right? ;-; I still crave closure though. I stopped a couple seasons before it ended, so I'm rewatching it all.
>>5200379
I bet you think Sherlock Holmes is a know-it-all narcissist with a drug problem too. Step up the husbando game, senpai.

>>5200392
I haven't bothered making an account because there's no one attractive on OKC in my city at all.
Even less that would date a transgirl I'm sure.

Any /mtfg/ down for League of Legends?

>>5200392
>How old and how long on hormones were you when you made an OkCupid /mtfg/?
mid twenties, 18 months or so idk
>What kinds of replies do you get?
ugly stupid or boring guys; lesbians, married couples who want to have threesomes
>Do you reply to others?
sometimes, most i dont

>>5200395
Yes another /poltard embracing his (or hers?) manifest destiny.

>>5200419
wrong, house is so crude and his medical expertise is not believable

sh is a classic and totally believable

>>5200429
I wished you asked like an hour ago >.< I'm all settled in for the night now tho.
>>5200392
A little under a year. The first sentence of my profile was a disclaimer I was trans, so I got mostly creepy guys, a fair amount of people calling me jailbait, and one guy who was a total cutie and gentleman. I only sought out a couple guys desu.
>>5200440
I like the badboys tho <3

>>5200440
Sherlock Homes as played by Benedict Cucamberbatch?
Totally believable.

>go to bed at a reasonable time cause I have to be up at 7 am for work
>wake up bright-eyed and bushy-tailed at 4am cause I'm thirsty
God damn you pizza you've forsaken me with your insanely high sodium levels.

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>some people are mad at me for not getting caught with everyone else because I "ditched"
????

>>5200414
only time will tell
you either make it or just go back to being a guy

>>5200392
Negative 3
>>5200446
I wish i woke up bright eyed and bushy tailed.

>>5200341
Isn't it like 4 in the morning there?
Don't you have work today?

>>5200452
Nah its over rated. I like waking up groggy and tired and rolling back over and sleeping more desu

>>5200454
Bushy tail > groggy shit

>>5200456
Idk senpai sleeping is preeeeeeetty awesome

Famm my fammm up, fammmmmm

>>5200466
Just desu my shit up senpai

>>5200456
Come play DotA.

cuts and burns and scars

I wish my penis was bigger

>>5200476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryDOy3AosBw

>>5200476
Me too. It helps with SRS.

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>>5200439
Nah, I'm just someone with a history degree making a joke. Had to use it to write some papers.

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>>5200429
maybe?? it depends

I haven't played in a while and I'm still kind of new so I'm not very good ._.

Hello, how many of you people are awake?

Personally I'm procrastinating an assignment due tomorrow by thinking about boobs and bras.

hi, i will start HRT (mtf) when i will be 25 years old,
will i be passable or suicide is better idea?

>>5200449
Jelly of ur mad stealth skills

hello goyim i the evil bacon am return to destroy you

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>

>>5200449
oh dude
i totally know about this
people H A T E when you dip early and swerve on the trouble
they're probably gonna bitch and moan for a while, so just ignore it or tell them that they fucked up, lol
>>5200476
same desu
>>5200494
im awake...for the moment

>>5200495
better than 35, better than 45

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>>5200495
it really depends on genetics, some girls who transition earlier never pass, and some who do it later can- it's different for everybody

you never know until you try though

>>5200502
Do you know anything about bras? I've been suffering for about 4 days straight trying to make sense of all this.

>>5200507
i know a few things, yes.
with what are you struggling at present-?

>>5200471
It's too late

I think im going to not check the internet tomorrow and just read booksc and play games

>>5200469
not sure if censored or just being a silly senpai

>>5200504
>>5200505
i am ugly even as guy, if HRT gives nothing (or i will be alone because i am ugly) i will stop it and suicide or somenthing

>>5200529
from what I've seen ugly guys end up actually making the biggest and best changes.

>>5200530
but yu dont know me, how i look etc,
even transpeople discourage me from thinking about HRT

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I don't know if I'm trans anymore. I think I just saw an out for my shit life. A chance to be someone else and I took it. I dont feel like I was completely lying to myself whenever I would go out presenting. I know I wasn't lying to myself when I was sure I had a girls soul. But I'm just dead inside now and more hopeless and alone than I've ever been. I think I'm just going to commit to the boy thing until I eventually kill myself. This life just isn't for me.
I never posted much but see you around mtfg. I'm glad to have known the people here and their lives. I hope you all make it.

>>5200530
>>5200529
"ugly" guys usually make the biggest changes not because they're ugly, but because their generally ugly bc they're unkempt and dont take care of themselves/put no effort into their appearance
and then as they try to present female, they care, and use effort

attractive facial structure is very similar amongst men and women, that being said
>>5200533
if you think you're "too ugly" then dont do it, it's as simple as that; go see a therapist if you're questioning heavily

>>5200533
bitch, look at the timelines (http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv) and tell me the ugly guys don't come out as the best.

>>5200530
>>5200533
think about what makes people look ugly in the first place- a lot of the time it's due to having some out of place characteristics of the other sex, at least I know that's how it is with women, so the opposite might apply?

also, you could just imagine that you look worse than you are

I know I did

>>5200530

isn't it all just luck anyway? those that were lucky enough to look like twinks with cute faces pre hrt will have an easier time adjusting. The reason the changes are so drastic is probably due to immense lifestyle changes and having tact in your transition.

>>5200540
before HRT she/he looks girlier than i in fool makeup etc
>>5200538
i was 7 or 8 times on visit with psychologist and after 2 meeting she tells nothing than ordering me HRT

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>>5200510
Ok, so although I'm still pre hormones, I kind of have bobs, right? But I've ignored them most of the time. And this other day, buying a coat, I come across a Ladies-Large section of a store, with lots of bras. So I guess I checked it out.
Now all these bras are in hangers, and there are no dressing rooms, so I'm guessing I just have to buy it. I already had my measures ready just in case.

>Under bust: 91 cm (35.8 in)
>Bust: 98 cm (38.5 in)

And so following this guide: http://www.sizeguide.net/bra-sizes.html

I get that somehow I'm E80 in Japan size (36D)
Now, that doesn't sound right but I say, hey let's see how it goes, and I buy two of them.

I try them on and I get kind of alarmed by the huge difference they make. They also are kind of empty on the cups.

The next day I buy a D80 to see how it goes, it also is kind of empty.

The next day I go to buy a C80, a B80 and A80 to finally see what's it all about, but there aren't any of those so I settle with sister sizes D75, C75 and B75. I drop the D75 because it's expensive.

So I come back home and they're tight as fuck, so I make an extension out of an old bra that was too big for me anyways.

So now I try on those two, and the C75 seems kind of right. Also, the B75 makes my bobs spill over the top and the sides, so that's that.

But then I find this site:
http://bustyresources.wikia.com/wiki/Scoop_and_swoop

and trying it again, the C75 seems to spill on the top a bit, at least as far as I can see. The underwire of the E cup feels the best but the whole cup is empty.

I have loads of pictures for every bra I bought, front and 45 degrees, in case you'd like to see.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do now, or if this bra fits or not.

Pic is C75 without the scoop and swoop method.

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>>5200548
This one's after the method

>>5200540
I think that ugly guys just learned about angles in most of those photos.
It seems taking en face photos with neutral lighting is a dying art here.

>>5200550
>>5200548
but you look like a guy

>>5200537
You wanna talk anon? I promise you, it'll get better T^T

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>>5200548
This one is the E80 that seemed most comfortable but also empty.

>>5200556
why no one talk with me?

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>>5200548
Just look at all that emptiness.

Anyways, I'm struggling because I already spent 8000 yens on about 5 bras and I'm realizing none of them fit and that I also need to buy 3 of my real size once I find them so that I can wear them and wash them accordingly

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>>5200540
mfw muffins has always been my biggest inspiration

>>5200537
This is scary, I almost posted your same thoughts a couple days ago. I was drunk however, and I'm still early on with HRT so I want to see where it takes me first. You're in my thoughts, anon. I hope you find something in life worth living for.

transsexuality is for rich and beautiful, not for scum like me, prove me wrong

why do some people want to be girls but not want a dick

>tfw perfect guy in every way but small penis

>>5200547
i think you need to see a different therapist then
>>5200558
>>5200550
>>5200548
>>5200558
well a big part of bra's fitting is if they feel comfortable.
do they feel comfortable-?

now i have to admit, i generally dont wear a bra bc my chest doesn't warrant it imo
¥8000 is alot to essentially have wasted. there's not way you can return them?
you can try this site
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/wiki/shallow
and these calculators
http://www.sophisticatedpair.com/bra-size-calculator/
http://bustyresources.wikia.com/wiki/How-to_determine_bra_size
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/comments/rh26h/is_getting_fitted_for_a_bra_as_humiliating_as_it/c469bi0


unfortunately I dont really know much at all about foreign bra sizes; so i dont think i can help that much; i think you're be better off asking r/abrathatfits and obviously let them know you're trans lol

>>5200571
uh because girls don't have dicks?

Gem, what's your league name?

>>5200571
HRT kind of takes away all pleasure in having a dick, at least with a lot of transgirls. There's literally no drive, and about as much pleasure in touching it as someone rubbing your forehead.

>>5200580
>>5200578
what's the point of hrt if I can't have a dick that works ;_;

>>5200582
Fuck off you straight man. AGP aren't welcome here.

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>>5200571
but that was like, the first dysphoria feeling I ever had?

>be a kid
>wow what there's a snake attached to my body
>that's weird

>>5200579
twight spackle

>>5200571
i didn't want a dick in the first place, it was always in the way bothering me

>>5200582
So you can be pretty as a girl and get fucked by someone you love ideally. Or you'll fail miserably and get neither and be stuck as a hon.

>>5200577
>i think you need to see a different therapist then
why?
i want to be a girl and because of you i have to stop it?

>>5200588
gem marry me

>>5200577
Well thanks for the links ^^. I had already found r/abrathatfits, but I'm not really good with reddit, I somehow get lost all the time.

I've thought about returning them, but I'm guessing that people would be pretty disgusted by the mere idea of returning a bra here. I've also thought about selling them to a recycle shop, but I have the same doubts.

About the sizes, Japan is just a letter higher (no AA) and 80 is equivalent to 36 in US, and works in spans of 5, so 75 is 34 in US.

>>5200585
>>5200588
>>5200589
so am i trans if i want to be a gril but not lop off my cock lads

>>5200595
no, you're just a gross man with a fetish.

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>>5200592
w-why would you want to do that?

>>5200595
I don't see why not, a lot of trans people don't have much genital dysphoria, but idk

>>5200598
somehow this is even worse

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>>5200563
>>5200577
Also, do you want to see my bra rotation graph?
I had both fun and stress while making it, because it meant I needed to spend more money.

I worked out the minimum of bras to use for the whole week and wash them and also rotate them so the elastic has a day of rest is 3, and it's like this.

it says 3 bras in rotation for 3 weeks, 7 uses per wash (5 not counting weekends) and 6 days available to hang dry.

>>5200588
Added.

>>5200601
gem plz how r u

any advice about totally plucking facial hair? my pain tolerance has been getting better, and my friend told me that I should just need warm water and a gentle cleanser to start with, but I wanted to ask somebody who might have more hair to pluck about it

>>5200601
Most legitimate transgender people have some form of genital dysphoria or discomfort with having a penis and not a vagina.

What if, say, you simply.. were kind of... more 'uncaring' that you had a penis.

>>5200612
I just use an epilator, but it hurts on the mustache, and you got to tight your skin so you don't hurt your lips.

>>5200591
so.......if you want to be a girl......why are you asking other people if it's worth it for you to go on hormones?
>>5200594
alll yeah i dont really use reddit to post, just information hunt so i understand that frustration

i mean you should try to return them at least, all they can do is tell you no, right? and if they tell you no, nothing has changed in the present situation, so.....

but yeah i mean i'd go with the one that FEELS most comfortable, bc your breasts right now are closer to "moobs" you know? lol and once you start hormones and your breasts develop further those bra's are gonna be useless anyway lol
>>5200595
yeah
as i understand not everyone has genital dysphoria
>>5200604
ha thats very clever
i should make something like that
i only have a few bras at present, but i rarely wear bras so i just wash them whenever i wear them
i should get more though, but eh

>>5200612
exfoliate, use warm water to open your pores
plucking one by one takes time, you may consider using the facial wax strips made for women, which will be a little more painful, but it should be faster than going one by one, obviously

>>5200618
my epilator cant pluck my face hair, so what now?
i am not this anon >>5200612

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>>5200616
>Megassa squeeze them

>>5200620
>so.......if you want to be a girl......why are you asking other people if it's worth it for you to go on hormones?
because if hormones dont make me look girlier they are useless

>>5200620
my facial hair's dense enough that it's more like three by three lmao... but if I get my hands on some money I might get wax strips
there IS something deeply satisfying about ripping each one of the freeloading little bastards out of my face by pure force, though

>>5200612
use one of those springs if not an epilator, they take out multiple hairs and hurt way less then tweazers or epilating
>>5200622

>>5200623
Jar Jar is the key to breast fondling.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FXUTUM

you can fin them cheaper, but if you don't/can't epilate these are amazing and you can do it blind unlike a tweezer

>>5200617
You'll feel a lot different and or confused from that viewpoint after half a year or so on full dose HRT.

>>5200624
They will, but the older you are the less they generally do. If your bones are already fully developed and protrude very strongly then chances are you're going to have a bad time.

>>5200634
I didn't even question wanting it or not, until like year 2 and now it's like terrible sitting there and I hate it

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>>5200620
I mean, yeah, I might keep the bigger ones in case I get bigger when starting hormones. But at least I'd like to return the small one, and the really big one, haha.

Or even if not returning them. I want money for bras. Maybe I can start asking for a donation somewhere?

And yeah, my bobs are kind of "moobs", but they're kind of getting out of the range a bit.
When I was fatter it wasn't as noticeable, but now I'm kind of skinny (still got skin flab from losing weight fast), but the bobs are getting more noticeable.

I guess have a look at the real thing so tell me what you think.

>>5199957
I just ordered
>Spiractin 100 (Spironolactone)-Spiractin 100 (Spironolactone) 100 Tablets 1 $52.90 $52.90

>Estrofem 2mg-Estrofem 2mg 84 Tablets 1 $60.00 $60.00

from in house pharmacy and will start self medding, was this a good choice?

>>5200634
i am to poor to start HRT now so i am asking, ok, my whole life is a shit and i dont have a chance to be myself and happy, brb suicide ;_;
i have myself

>>5200625
yah the wax stripes arent too expensive, less that $10 iirc
but until then, exfoliate, warm water, and just suck it up and do it lol
the MOST PAINFUL AREA is right under your nose, so yeah just fyi those are the hardest
after plucking them forawhile they'll seem lighter though so thats nice
>>5200627
do those actually work?
>>5200637
yeah you could try selling the bras you dont want on ebay or something to try and get some money back
they look like moobs that are becoming boobs to me but idk could be gynocomastia too
i wouldnt worry about it that much since you're gonna start hormones and grow /real/ boobs lol so.....

>>5200638
why hormones are so expensive?

>>5200640
yes, I kind of stretch out the string then let it compress, and then twist, it takes out dozens of hairs at a time. I have one to do it when I'm sitting watching tv or something

>>5200638
no.
Hormones don't do anything

>>5200645
hmm
will you link me to the one you bought ?
plucking hair my hair is a huge pain lately and its always been hard to do on my chin

>>5200640
I actually think it's gynecomastia. My mother used to tell me I had it and I didn't listen, because I thought she was bullying me. Turns out she may be right.

You should have seen her face when I told her she was right about that and that I was kind of glad it happened that way.

Anyway, I figured, If I know my size now, it will be easier to buy bras when I start growing, right? Because I'll be able to tell the difference with my current one.

>>5200647
I mean except for the boobs though. and the feels.

>>5200648
http://www.amazon.com/Bellesentials-Facial-Hair-Remover-Threading/dp/B00THHU606/ref=zg_bs_3779051_20

>>5200639
Sometimes you have to be proactive and find other ways of getting a hold of it. Look for resources at a gender clinic or with a lgbt-friendly doctor, use your insurance for appointments with a clinical social worker to get a referral for HRT, ask other transgirls for ways to get your hands on them. It's rough but hang in there.

>>5200647

other then the gene expression, the reshaping of parts of your brain, the boobs, the milk from the boobs, the butt, the thighs, the hips, the skin, the fertility.........

>>5200659
to be honest if I had the extra money I would be willing to help some people out. its just that theres n good way to do that while making sure the person is authentic.

I mean it's best to start early, but what if they're just being rebellious

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Stopping by to stay, don't kill yourselves!
Unless you're a shitposting faggot, anyway.

>>5200636
Are you thinking about detransitioning?

>>5200668
Say*

>>5200659
What is your opinion on my case?

I have my meds available near a 10 minute bike ride. They are estradiol valerate injections (10mg) and Hydroxyprogesterone caproate 125mg. I think it would be once every two weeks, but that's kind of guessing.

I have no expert doctor available without going to tokio, and I don't really have money now. If I self med and also try to check my blood levels, it would be hard because of the japanese terms.

Should I get a part-time job (studying) and go for it? Also, I'm afraid I might get discriminated at school and stuff.

>>5200669
I never really transitioned, I came out and did hormones, but I don't live as a female to anyone outside my family and friends and school

>>5200668
As a person who constantly thinks about killing themselves, I can say this is utterly useless, please give a reason for us to live... don't just use cheerful words.

My reason is simple, I continue to live because I wish to see what happens with my life. Other than that I have nothing.

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>>5200666

Insurance is honestly the only way. I'll never understand why people don't go into a job that ensures coverage for their treatments and medications
(obviously circumstancial)
checked for baphomet

>>5200649
well
your size will probably change, so i mean
but most likely, your band size will remain the same and your cup size will increase
>>5200654
omg, thank u so much faye~~
>>5200639
1) find an informed consent clinc
2)do you have health insurance? figure out how to get a prescription and have it covered through your insurance; find a doctor, ask the insurance for lists of endocrinologists, call them and ask if they can give you hormones, look up local GPs who are trans friendly and see if they take your insurance
3) go to your local, or closest LGBT clinc and ask for help
4) see if you can find a local trans community or something of that nature
5) get a job/beg/e-work/get money and self-med
perseverance is key, earlier is better, had i the foresight I have now when i was a teenager i would be shorter and far more attractive, but oh well
>>5200675
do what you need to do, so that you can do what you need to do
and getting a blood test and translating the terms isn't easy, but it really isn't THAT hard, lets be honest here.
>>5200677
you have big boobs and look undeniably female dont you though? i mean........even if you didn't "come out" dont most people see you as a woman?

>>5200681
anybody know if walmart covers?

>>5200663
>implying any of those things actually happen
I've been taking these sugar pills for months and nothing. I'm convinced you need to be intersex for hrt to have any kind of noticeable effect.

>>5200684
>puberty happens in months and not over years
is stupidity a meme now?

>>5200683
I wonder if trans-resources thread has this already posted

www.hrc.org/resources/entry/finding-insurance-for-transgender-related-healthcare

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>>5200688
sad days

I guess I'm gonna start working on name change and gender marker stuff soon.

Having second thoughts about Jocelyn even though I've been using the name for a while. When people say Joce it sounds like my dead name and it sucks.

I need opinions.

>>5200685
Well I've seen people on here get full breasts within a few months and fat redistribution to their face even sooner neither of which I have.

>>5200693
do you remember the girls in 5th grade who grew boobs before everyone else? It's all genetics.

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>>5200679
If you want to be given a reason to live you need to eat picture related, I would suggest watching NGE after consumption.

Marijuana can make the pain go away as well.

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/mtfg/ convince me not to buy a bunch more of these, I really want the female raider and vault dweller but what you get is random ;~;

>>5200675
I think you should get off 4chan and focus on your health. Get a blood test every so often with a professional that can ensure you are healthy and your levels are accurate. It's your life and your body that you're changing, and you don't want to end up dead or with poor results because of a complication that was missed along the way.

>>5200695
well given that my male puberty never came I doubt my female one will either.

>>5200698
>Randomly Assorted
This is legal jargon for scam.

Examine your mother/sister/s

>>5200698
you should buy more to get them all

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>>5200692
just tell them to not call you that nickname

find a different nickname or don't use one, because you don't have to have people call you by anything else besides jocelyn

>>5200700
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of ._.
It's hard to find a professional here, though.

>>5200682
I figured I could technically go for it if I had money, but I don't want to miss anything important because of not knowing how to read medical stuff and miss something important like the above anon said.

>>5200698
Can't you just buy them seperately off eBay or something?

>>5200695
Ahhh-ta.

>>5200677
>I never really transitioned
You should try. You're this far already.

>>5200705
My mom is all business, she's extremely stubborn and sort of just throws her entire life into work. Her favorite movies are the princess bride and sixteen candles. Her favorite band is aerosmith.
My sister is four, and she's four. She's four, four, oh and she's four.

>>5200691
why not just work for walgreens then. or literally any other company on that list. you could hold out until it's covered by law but fat chance of that soon