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▶Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
▶MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT
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▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
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▶Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶Minecraft Server: minecraft.is-so.moe
old>>5142098
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>>5143674
what an ugly white trash tranny

white people with their flat butts and blond hair should burn
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Timelines edition?
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>>5143677
the fuck you even on fam?
pic related

nice doubles

she looks like those eastern european models
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>>5143689
That skirt is just not for trans girls
like seriously
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this is my goal.
it will take me a lot of thousands gold coins and a lot of time, and I already lost hope many years ago :^]
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>>5143690
hmm yeah it does not favors to her legs but I guess there is no accounting for tasted
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>>5143694
I have a pair of wedge heels!
I measured, and they're only 2.5" actual heel, but with 1" or 0.5" plateu.
They already felt sorta tall, I wonder what actual high heels feel like.
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Why did lanugo (newborn baby hair) start growing everywhere on my body and face after I reduced my cypro dose?
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>>5143702
im not really into wearing heels, and im like really short 5'6. But I guess I would do it because its feminine.
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>>5143715
you are a baby now
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>>5143674
Not going to lie, at first glance I seriously thought that was a diaper. That is an ugly skirt.

>>5143677
>white people with their flat butts
Mhm.
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>>5143715
you are a cute anime girl now! :o
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I just epilated my face for the first time. My face hurts, a lot.
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Just got back with hanging with friends, ended up going reeeaaaallllyyyy well! Had lots of fun, ended up talking with one of my close friends and her boyfriend and our good friend about being trans (I had already come out to her though but the other two didn't know) and it was funny. They bombarded me with questions and I trolled her bf cause he's really squeemish talking about vaginoplasty and orchies and stuff like that.
We also had a long hour talk about girl stuff and it just felt good! She also recommended a good place to get my eyebrows threaded so I may go do that this weekend!

>>5143741
stop triggering me plz
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Hey /mtfg/, how do you feel about being called dude?
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>>5143674
Hmm, wow, yes, now I want to die again.
>tfw ugly gross flabby jaw/neck skin
I was just never meant to be happy, was I?
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I want to get my eyebrows done but I don't know what to ask for or how to ask for it.
I'd imagine the general guidelines for guy eyebrows and girl eyebrows are different, so I need to figure out how to ask for them to be done like a girl's too.
Anyone know how this stuff works? I could really use some advice
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>>5143755
at least it's honest
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>>5143683
right in the dysphoria
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>>5143674
I spaghettied once when I stopped her on the street so know every time I see her she literally runway struts right past me :-[
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>>5143771
Gudiiiiiiit!!!
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>>5143744
B-but I'm a boy. With big nipples.
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>>5143771
>tfw met two of my musical idols (brothers)
>tfw one of them writes a lot of lyrics about his social anxiety problems as a teenager / early 20s so even though I spaghettied he just nodded knowingly and they were chill about it
I think the trick is to only idolise people who are similar to you
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>>5143771
>runway struts right past me
like, because that's her natural gait and she's trying to avoid you? or because she's making fun of you by showing off?
maybe approach her in disguise next time
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>>5143768
No idea either but I'm just gonna yolo it. Like I said earlier I'm gonna get them threaded (which is the best way to get them done) and gonna ask them to be shaped in a more feminine way. Just gonna yolo and if I spill spaghetti w/e cause I want to look good
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>>5143749
Shouldn't do that tbh, you are stimulating the area and encouraging thicker, darker hair to take it's place.
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>>5143749
don't do that, it'll fuck up future electrolysis
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>>5143782
I've thus far spaghettied on about 10 top models, Gwen Paltrow, Juliana Huxtable and Nicki Minaj scowled at me when I notice her as I walked past her

:-/ I wish to have social grace, but get too excited.
>>5143787
Gait/avoid
>>5143775
Hi
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>>5143792
>>5143797
Are you fucking with me right now? Because that really hurt to do.
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>Tfw high and watching Chopped
This is the life girls :3 WHEEEEE
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>>5143799
How the fuck do you meet these people? Where do you live, New York?
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>>5143807
Yes. I literally see Moot weekly.
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>>5143807
>New york
aye

she does

but dont' you post on gaygen usually?
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>>5143814
Call him a cuck and a traitor
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>>5143806
that sounds amazing tbh
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>>5143819
No I just asked for his picture and chatted a bit, wanna ask him some stuff about the website and what he's up to now but yeah he's actually really social which is a surprise.
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>>5143802

>>5143792
is fucking with you

but you really could damage the follicles to the point where electrolysis becomes much harder to do
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>LGD loses to CDEC
>crush has been offline for an hour
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>>5143802
No way would I joke about this when facial hair is the worst thing and I used to pluck and got a lecture from the person that does my electro.
Shaving does the least and doesn't encourage growth.
>>5143831
Nope not messing around, they showed me some material that says what I wrote. I'm not saying it will happen, but it Can encourage that type of growth. Excuse me for phrasing it in a way that made it sound like it will 100% happen.
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>>5143838
>still watching dota
meta has been dead for years.
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>>5143828
He is still a cuck and a failure and his entire persona screams male lesbian

he would fit right in here
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>>5143842
Moot is literally Kiwi
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>>5143831
Let me run this by you, I've got sparse light facial hair. It grows in a stupid pattern but it's hardly noticeable unless I let it grow out for a while. Should I shelve the thing and just save up for electrolysis? I figured I could just epilate indefinitely since that + hrt would thin it even more.
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>>5143840
>implying lol has any meta
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I made a new friend :DD
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>>5143848

>come on bro, just open up
>I just wanna' talk to ya'
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>>5143842
He's a sweetheart, kind and patient

Literally the only thing close to a celeb who didn't think I was weird.
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Get yo certificates changed, girls.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-34650486
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>>5143854
That's because whatever you have said or done you're probably still normal compared to some the other people from this website that he encounters daily.
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>>5143848
Fuck moths.

I went to a butterfly enclosure once and damn near had a panic attack, and moths are worse because they leave gross dust on you and have fat bodies and crinkly wings and are faster.
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>>5143846
>Should I shelve the thing
Just use it on your body tbh
If you don't have that much hair just save up for electrolysis, they might have a discount for transwomen and then you don't have to worry about it or waste time on it.
Just shave for now.
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>>5143864
Good point
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>>5143871
Eh, it's a facial epilator. It was only made for the face. I do have a body one coming in. So I *can* epilate my body then right?
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>>5143741
I will achieve this butte one day. ONE DAY.
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>>5143848
stick him in your ear
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>>5143873
Yeah but most facial epilators are for very thin hair, I guess try to return it or shelve it like you said. I mean you could have asked here before
Yeah you can epilate body hair, that doesn't matter as much.
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>>5143880
so you came out as kinda leaning straight and ricky came out as leaning lesbian

I just wanted to say, this is like some yin-yang shit
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>>5143840
>making objectively false statements
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>>5143887
I'd probably just hurt him if I tried picking him up ;_;
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>>5143900
DVA you got some wierd shit going on- werent you friends with a spider?
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>>5143896
>I mean you could have asked here before
I got caught up in things, I was just excited and I guess I convinced myself I could handle this without needing to make a social thing out of it. Talking to all the electrolysis people about me being a tranny, it'll be stressful. But if it's the only way it's the only way. How bad did I mess up my electrolysis if I only epilated this once?
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>>5143898
Qué?
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>>5143868
But that's all the stuff that makes them cute
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>>5143909
It is like a Charge parity violation except not

anyway

how ya been ya basic bitch?
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>>5143905
Don't worry, you're fine. If you kept doing it then it could be a problem.
I can see not wanting to ask but don't stress, just drop by here whenever you need help or even the trans help general. Just be glad you asked before you actually did some damage.
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>>5143903
Idk who you're talking about but I have actually been friends with some spiders before
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>>5143918
sorry I confused you with a trip who has a nice butt

who are better bros? spiders or beetles?
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>>5143838
>tfw I'll never be bexe's crush
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>>5143873
it was probably also made for cis women.

different kind of hair
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>>5143914
I still don't understand. How are Ricky and I related?
>how ya been ya basic bitch?
Kind of shitty, also I'm becoming goth/alt bitch tyvm, no basicness for me.

Also Ricky if you're about, I slaughtered a bunch of Elves on Witcher 3 and afterwards thought that would make you proud.
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>>5143922
I used to find Japanese beetles on this raspberry bush thing that used to be in my yard. I'm pretty sure they caused it to die, and I gotta say, bros don't kill their bros' raspberry bushes
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>>5143929
it is okay don't worry your pretty little head about it

but if you want to think about it I found similarities between you and Ricky's volatile initial temperaments

except you are funnier
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>>5143851
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>>5143937
Swiggity swooty
He coming for that booty
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>>5143937
>dude let me in
>i'm a fairy
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>>5143755
it confuses me because I don't know if I'm being clocked or if they're just a general dudebro
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tfw nips are puffier than the puffiest puffs that ever puffed.
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What's the safest way to socially transition? I'm incredibly shy, with an anxiety disorder among other things. I don't want people to comment much if at all.
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>>5143929
Good afternoon Raifu how are you?
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>>5143964
Unless you look flawless people are going to comment, but even then they will still murmur, the only way to have people say nothing at all is to never let them see you.
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>>5143964
Become a faithful muslim.
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Should I make an OKC??
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>>5143972
What are you into? you will do fine, just be bombarded with guys/girls asking for 3somes
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Is this tape ok for tucking/using on your nipples?

>>5143964
>I don't want people to comment much if at all.
I don't think there's any way to stop that, even if they don't say things to you they'll talk behind your back
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>>5143976
depends how sticky but ouch...
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>>5143972
That would be funny, you should do it.
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>>5143975
Huh?
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good morning mtfg


whats everyone up to rn??
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>>5143934
>it is okay don't worry your pretty little head about it
You say that like I'm some cute ditsy blonde. I'm just partially retarded.
>you and Ricky's volatile initial temperaments
Who the fuck are you calling volatile?
>>5143965
>afternoon
It's 2:37AM.
>how are you?
Wishing I could start my inking and piercings, but alas, I am broke, and need to pay for transition stuff and saving money to move.
>>5143964
Like if you just stick to people you know and places you're comfortable, you can avoid anyone confronting you mostly, but avoiding comments is nigh impossible, especially if HRT is kind to you.

I basically just avoid being in public as much as possible and stay at home or work until I'm confident enough to actually, like, tell people I'm a girl, and actually use my girl voice. Keeps the anxiety down. That and a lot of weed.
>>5143972
If you want dick, sure. Or top quality keks from the possible messages you'll get.
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>>5143980
you will get plentof attn on okc, just be prepared to get asked for threesomes from girls
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>>5143987
That sounds crazy what piercings do you wanna get i tihnk you could rock them!
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>>5143976
>using on your nipples
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>>5143987
>Or top quality keks from the possible messages you'll get.
This is why I had one tbh

>>5143992
I don't wanna wear a bra but my nipples are too puffy not to
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>>5143987
>if you want dick
Heh
>>5143988
Oh? Why is that?
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>>5143964
safest way would probably be to take hormones while still presenting as a guy, and when you start getting to the point that even that is hard then you move states and present as a girl

of course that would assume you know how to perfectly present female, and doing so out of nowhere would be insane

just take it step by step and accept that people will make comments, but it will go down as you pass more and more

>>5143985
making some dinner, playing pokemon, and thinking about tripping for good

what about you?
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>>5143987
>Who the fuck are you calling volatile?
dammit you just need to get a hold of yourself woman
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>>5143994
if you set the settings to bi you will get plenty of guys but
for some reason the odd woman comes along and wants to have a 3 some with you and her boyrfirend
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>>5143994
don't you have a gf?
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>>5143985
Just got home from work. It's relaxing time! How about you?
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>>5143994
If I were you I wouldnt make an OKC unless I was honest about my appearance. Take some normal straightforward pictures. Im saying this for your own good.
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>>5143996
>>5144004
umm i just woke up so IDK mb i'll go out and get some food in a sec or something

>>5143993
hi jormy :3
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>>5143991
I'm gonna have my snakebites redone, lobes, at least one helix, and a couple people have said I would look good with a nostril piercing. I also am thinking of nipples, and hip piercings, maybe naval. And maybe Jacob's ladder.

I would say a Prince Albert, but being on the receiving end of one wasn't so great imo.
>>5143992
>being a little bitch
>>5143993
>I don't wanna wear a bra
>being a slut
>>5143997
YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD!
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If a cis guy pretends to be a trans girl on the internet who is he trolling?
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>>5144011
Jacobs ladders seem so weird i think you can rock alot of those i'd have to trawl through the archives for your face to be sure
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>>5144012
herself
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>>5144008
Ohayou

>>5144011
Well its not like I'd be walking around topless.... or maybe I will. I need to work on my tan and its not illegal for guys to be topless. Thats one good thing about not being able to change your offical sex without srs I guess
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>>5144002
Not any more ;_;
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>>5144031
oh
why what happened
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>>5144031
cucked
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>>5143911
weird creepy bug dust and flapping erratically
no.
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>>5144012
/mtfg/?
>>5144015
Just imagine a handsome young Dutch/Irish boy with pretty long red hair. That's basically my face.
>Jacobs ladders seem so weird
I kinda wish I could find a guy with one to try, I think I would enjoy them. But then again,
>tfw could never find a guy with one that isn't toally gross and would even consider sex with me
>>5144024
Careful, someone from Tumblr might think you're trying to make some statement, and follow suite.
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>>5144038
>handsome young Dutch/Irish boy with pretty long red hair


oh my
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>>5143964
Move to the queer part of town, if there is one. Mine is like an incubation chamber for new girls, a lot of trans people so you don't actually stand out, basically a pretty safe place to be while you practice presentation. Go to work or school or whatever in boy mode, if you want. Then do the moving state thing other anon said.
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>>5144038
>Careful, someone from Tumblr might think you're trying to make some statement, and follow suite.
Is that a bad thing tho?
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>>5144038
You dyed your hair red that's dope tbh pics when
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>>5144038
I want to buy my first handgun and im lurking k now.

What was your first gun?
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>>5144073
Oooh gun talk! What are you planning on getting it for?
My first gun was a 10/22 my dad bought for me
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>>5144073
>>5144077
Anon asked the right question. We need to know what you plan to use the handgun for before we can make a recommendation. Also, what's your price range?

My first gun purchase was a Springfield 1911A1
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>>5144081
Shooting myself of course :^)
But seriously self defense and for show.

I can spend about five hundred dollars or so. I honestly want one that looks visually intimidating also

>>5144077
That's awesome how much does a gun usually run around for a pistol? I want to start collecting guns a little bit more they are so fucking cool. Don't know anything about them though.
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>4 visitors on my profile
>4 people like you!
Lol?
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oh my fucking god, this game...

i just finished episode 4 and... i cant even...
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>>5144045
Yes.
>>5144062
When I can cope with taking pics again.
>>5144073
My first gun was a Zastava N-PAP. My first handgun was a Sig P220.

How much experience do you have with shooting?
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>>5144095
Well, for a price range that low, you're pretty limited. Brand new handguns usually run in the $600-800 range, depending on the make and model, of course. For a beginning shooter, which I assume you are, it'll probably be best to start with some sort of 9mm. There's the never-ending debate of 9 vs. 45 (which I'm in the 45 camp), however, for a new shooter you're going to want lower recoil and a larger magazine. I'm pretty biased when it comes to manufacturers, but I know a lot of people swear by Glock. Also, if you're big on the self defense aspect, you're going to want a compact frame. They're smaller, lighter, and easier to conceal should you get your CCW permit.

Intimidation-wise, that's all up to interpretation, I suppose. Don't buy a desert eagle.
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>>5144108
Buying a desert eagle is a one stop ticket to letting recoil bite you back and break your nose.
Do not be the dumbass girl in the Youtube video.
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>>5144102
They should have called it Life is Horrible

>>5144105
>people walking around topless
>bad
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>>5144105
That's cool just as good as i get to see it! i'm excited for when you get enough money to get pierced!
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>need to be up to start getting ready for work in like 4 hours
Sleep or just stay up?
>>5144108
Basically this, anon. And to throw my bias in, look at CZ75s. The weight, bore axis, and 9mm makes it easy to shoot, and it feels like pure sex in my hands. Or if looking at long guns, there's nothing wrong starting with a .22. I'm fond of Savage 64s, but 10/22s have an amazing aftermarket.
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>>5144105
I don't have any expierence. I actually hurt myself the one timec that I did and that got me scared of guns.

>>5144108
Yeahs that's basically all I want is a small compact gun to carry with me. Im going to try to get my ccw. Guns are expensive holy shit

What's wrong with desert eagles are they a meme?
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>>5144124
Go to the gas station, buy a fuckton of caffeine, and drink it all before a nap.
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>>5144126
Yes, they're very expensive. My recommendation would be to research the big manufacturers on your own and find something you like, and then just save up for it. If you have a local range that lets you rent/try handguns, too, that'll be great for deciding.

Desert Eagles are just too large and too expensive to be anything but a novelty, I think.

I'm a fan of Sig and FN, personally. FN handguns are too big to conceal, though, and Sig is crazy expensive. I agree with Raifu, CZ has some nice handguns.
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>>5144135
You're awesome val.
I didn't realize there were so many gun enthusiasts here
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If you ever feel bad about your appearance, remember people like this exist.
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>>5144144
Aww, thanks~ It's....my most boyish hobby, I suppose, but I love my guns <3

>>5144149
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

His parents must be so proud.
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looks like i'm going to have to bind with ACE bandages when my mom visits me this weekend. Not out to her. I plan to come out this thanksgiving?

How do you come out to one of those "soft" liberal types who still call Caitlyn Jenner by her birthname and thinks that the mention of me dating a boy (while she still perceives me as a boy) is "oh that's nice just don't shove it in my face/do any sort of pda"?
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>>5144121
Yeah it's honestly an emotional rollercoaster. One minute I'm happy over things appearing to go the way I want in the game and next I'm in complete shock or I get feels over a scene
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>>5144149
>hi I'm here for the job interview

>>5144152
>His parents must be so proud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ptezV-7eM
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>>5144152
I read your pictures filename as upvote.
But yeah guns are a cool hobby. I wish more girls here would stop judging how female they are by hobbies
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>>5144168
It's like there are three jobs for mtfs, though. programmer, makeup artist, or sex worker.
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>>5144163
More like
>Hith Im here forth th jobth intherfiew
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>>5144163
"When we're 70 we'll love them even more!"
My sides!

>>5144168
Not upvote, but close!

With the amount of hobbies I have, I'd go insane if I tried to judge my femininity by them. I'd rather be interesting and do things I find fun than conform to the gender roles of society.
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>>5144175
>cant program
>shit at makeup
>ugly as fuck
welp
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>>5144180
That's the way to be. I see so many girls just role play and do things that they hate just so it makes them feel more feminine. Its weird to me. I guess I would rather just see everyone do what they are good at
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>>5144181
Do the codecademy javascript course.
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>>5144190
>javascript
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>>5144196
Nobody likes using it, and everyone has to. If you want a job quickly, it's your best bet.
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>>5144149
Sigh, even people like this can get bf's though ;_;
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>>5144196
>confused anime girl image number 54
>posts the same three images on rotation

Explain yourself jorm jorm
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>>5144153
you should probably just wear a sports bra and a sweater, it'd do the job just as well without damaging ur boobs
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>>5144207

She saves the rest to show off to her fellow 4chan gold users.
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>>5144207
Its not a confused anime girl image tho?
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>>5144190
learn angular too
or just whore yourself.
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>>5144220
I'd prefer to whore myself than to keep working with angular.

React was fun for a bit, and I'm not sure if ES6 is *actually* nice or if it's just nice by comparison.
>>
>tfw you're lewding yourself and the dildo goes from not being able to go in to breaking through and sliding in entirely
G U H
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>>5144223
is that a positive guh? i have not had that experience myself.
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>>5144228
Very positive
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>>5144232
Hmm. Maybe I should clean up and get mine out again...
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hello, told a white lie and am now back
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>>5144206
s
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>>5143674
Oh we are posting Andrej.
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>>5144237
Hello, what's been happening little car?
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>>5144245
nothing much but I got my CAMHS appointment on Friday the 13th
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I can't do anal, it just feels like it burns
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>>5144246
Spooky.
Congrats though thats really great.
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>>5143678
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>>5144248
Hopefully something will actually get done this time :D
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>>5144206
At least they look happy? I have no problem with tattoos, but i hope she prepared herself for being unable to get a job that isn't in a tattoo parlor ever again.
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>>5144249
you were a cute boy and now you are a cute girl
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>>5144249
It is depressing that you passed better pre-HRT than I do now.

all aboard the suicide train.
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>>5144237
i thought thats what had happened.
do you post with a proxy?
you should try that
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>>5144249
I asked where you got your sweater and you never answered ;_;
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>>5144262
I don't have a proxy, but I did lie to not be kept off
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>>5144265
oh
well
that works too lol
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>>5144249
It looks like you just lost a little weight. I honestly see no other changes.
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>>5144263
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOAPP-39544

Here's a picture from today. I handed out candy to kids with my sorority sisters. The girl I'm with is edited out for privacy, of course.
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I think I'm done ever eating or having sex again.
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>>5144278
You know you'll be doing it again very soon you fat slut.
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>>5144278
But those are good for you
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>>5144278
No one asked.
>you'd ever eat less
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>>5144281
no chaser.jpg
yes, I'm directing this at you, lol
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>>5144286
I am trans. Troll pls go
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>>5144271
QQ trans sorority girls being a thing is cute as fuck
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>>5144255
hot topic could get some cred if they hired girl like this

>>5144287
when I first got here someone said trips chase each other, and I was like, "wat you talking about willis?
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So how do you tell if it's just AGP, or if you're actually trans? I feel like I might just be cherry picking cases of not feeling like a boy from my past, when it wasn't significant enough to warrant transition really.
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hi everyone wahts goiing on??
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>>5144292
crying abot not being included with other girls//about not being able to get pregnant is a good sign
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>>5144292
>tfw the less masculine I get the less I feel the need to transition because I don't have a life anyway
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>>5144278
:(

>>5144289
I was just thinking the same thing

>>5144293
heya
I'm just waiting for the rude neighbours to stop arguing and turn their music off so I can go to bed
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>>5144292
Liking girls, getting turned on when you put on girls clothes, no dysphoria, fine with being obvious trans
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>>5144297
>about not being able to get pregnant is a good sign
>agp
pls
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>>5144289
at first the school was like "ok" and then "no trans girls in sorority" but then my friend talked to them and they were alright with it again. really weird. also, there's a sister just about as tall as me so i don't tower over everybody
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>>5144299
but its so early sheen ! ._.
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>>5144308
but I'm so tired
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>>5144293
Hey Kit, what are you up to?
I'm eating chilli.
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>>5144271
if I had a perpetual smile, I'd pass everytime
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>>5144313
hey shell! i am about to cook dinner I guess.

What kinda chili? is it nice?? I WANT SOME

>>5144310
ya im quite tired aswell tbh but I gotta stay up tonight cause i got work tomorrow night so i need to sleep most of tomorrow ;~;
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>>5144315
I think I'm not passing. I just don't.
but at least I'm somewhat attractive.
But i think the world just hugboxes me too much but i know i don't pass, maybe wont for a long time
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>>5144318
>What kinda chili? is it nice??
Mum's chilli, its soooo good. Easily my fav dish of hers.
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tfw you walk to the highway but don't have the courage to put yourself under any of the trucks that come by
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>>5144318
>ya im quite tired aswell tbh but I gotta stay up tonight cause i got work tomorrow night so i need to sleep most of tomorrow ;~;
oh :(
I'd like to work nights, but I'd need to get like a block out curtain or a foam cutout for my window or something so I could sleep
>>
who is awake rn??
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>>5144329
>posting as anon
Its like you don't want responses.
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>>5144329
Oh man trucks are a bad way to go. Think of the suffering you would inflict on that poor driver.
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>>5144334
tfw u used to cal me on my cellphone
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>>5144339
LATE NIGHT WHEN U---

ps I LOVE YOU
also can u go on skype right quick?
or should i just txt u
>>
>tfw nobody will ever perve on your obvious upskirt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VbhWypYdR4
>>
T-T-TIMELINE S-S-SENPAI~
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>>5144345
Why would you want that
>>5144329
don't do that anon
>>5144334
i am
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>>5144334
I wish I wasn't.
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>>5144321
you dress a lot
when you go out in public place outside of school,
can people tell you are trans? or do people see you as a random girl?
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>>5144349
>Why would you want that
I just want a flat crotch that underwear fits right on
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>>5144336

better no responses than the type being a trip seems to bring

>>5144338
>Think of the suffering you would inflict on that poor driver.

why would that even matter to me when i'm already inflicting suffering on my family by killing myself in the first place tbh
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>>5144343
best ot just text tbh
im nude and getting ready foor work
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>>5144355
Me too .__.
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>>5144338
>unironically thinking anything matters when you're dead
The world ends with you.
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>>5144358
sentttt
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>>5144361
>solipsism
>2k15
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>>5144334
im awake

>>5144323
that sounds hella nice tbh
1 more day and you're free shell ;~;
are you doing anything for halloween?

>>5144330
working nights is pretty horrible sometimes but I kinda like it, I affords me tiime to talk to my best friends online and such
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>>5144356
Yes but your family, by the virtue of being your family, is forced to put up with your crazy.
That poor hypothetical driver on the other hand is not your family and should not suffer for your wrong lifestyle choices.

>>5144361
You leave people behind. I know you might not care about them but others do.
>>
https://unsee
.cc/bitozuma/
OH MY GOSH MY NEPHEW IS LITERALLY THE CUTEST THING EVER

>>5144358
>tfw dont have none of my mtfg friends numbers
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>>5144354
I honestly can't tell if people clock me.
I rarely get "weird" looks, nobody furrows their brows at me.
I mean...I was at an indoor halloween thing wearing an outfit that showed my shoulders and I just got compliments from some girls and two guys.
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>>5144370
>your family, by the virtue of being your family, is forced to put up with your crazy.

i mean you just gotta talk to any of the people here that were rejected and ostracised by their family to know that isn't true

>That poor hypothetical driver on the other hand is not your family and should not suffer for your wrong lifestyle choices.

i mean it's him or the conductors and passengers of an express train so better one than many right?

and if society would just institutionalise and sedate trannies that can't reasonably treat their dyshproia i wouldn't have to do anything like this
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>>5144373
I don't understand what kind of reaction you expect after being clocked.
The cisquisition will not make you repent your tranny ways or be burned at a stake. People will not pelt you with rotten fruit. At most they'll roll their eyes.
>>
>tfw don't know if trans or just a boy who hates all his masculine features, voice and sometimes penis and wants to be a cis girl.
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>>5144371
international phone stuff is tricky
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>>5144383
>tell that to my counselor
>no you're definitely trans
t-thanks doc
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>>5144383
hey, self-loathing lurkers club
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>wake up
>wisdom teeth still hurting like fuck
just kill me
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>>5144368
>are you doing anything for halloween?
Nope, no plans. Probably gonna watch a bunch of horror films though.
Going to see Anathema on Sunday though.

I guess your working huh, you gonna dress up?
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>>5144376
>i mean you just gotta talk to any of the people here that were rejected and ostracised by their family to know that isn't true
After seeing just how infantile some people here are, I really can't blame them. Like you right now. It's always someone else's fault for your inability to function even at the the most basic level.
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>>5144393
>still having wisdom teeth
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>>5144393
At your age wisdom teeth warrant a trip to the dentist.
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>>5144391
>tfw meeting my counselor for the firs time tomorrow
Still not sure tho tbqh
I think it might be the second
>>5144392
I own this club.
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>>5144397
well there's nothing i can do to change the past!!!!

>>5144398
i dont have dental insurance lols
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>>5144396
>It's always someone else's fault for your inability to function even at the the most basic level.

no, it's entirely on me, i don't think i blamed anyone else (apart from suggesting i should be institutionalised). i fully own up to the fact that i'm a pathetic fuckup who screwed his own life up by being a lazy gay nerd shit
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>Tfw bouncing back between crushing dysphoria one day and feeling like I'd do fine as a qt boy the next
>somtetimes, it flipflops back and forth within the same day
Brain
you've gotta stop doing this to me
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>>5144401

there is no second. boys don't think/feel that
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>>5144406
>tfw would be fine being a qt boy if I was feminine enough to just put on other clothes and pass as female
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>>5144384
yeah I know :(
still its weird because like I want to txt my mtfg friends and stuff but I'm on a different continent and its dumb
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>>5144408
How do you know?
I'm sure a bunch of them do.
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>>5144413
i think if u have an iphone you can do it for frees, i've done that with english ppls before
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>>5144403
1. Have or get insurance
2. Go to dentist
3. ???????
4. PROFIT
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>>5144413
You can use viber to make free calls/texts.
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>>5144415
>I'm sure a bunch of them do.

yeah, they're called repressing trannies
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>>5144383
Hey you're me
Although I only feel that way like 60% of the time, and rest I'm fairly indifferent because my male features aren't that prominent
The only reason I'm considering transitioning is because I fear that if I end up aging and becoming more masculine I'll kill myself
if I could look like this forever I think I'd be fine
I feel like I'd be cool with looking like pic related, being a feminine dude (obviously fiction isn't reality but I just don't want to dig through images of dudes right now to find a good example)
http://i.imgur.com/XcKLDLV.jpg
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>>5144406
This pain. I know it well.
>Not really feeling any dysphoria
>Catch a glimpse of myself in the mirror and see fem features and what could be
>Suddenly fighting off urge to cry
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>>5144412
Being a "boy" who passes as a girl is awkward as fuck trust me
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>>5144417
there's no way for me to get dental insurance right now
luckily my regular insurance covers operations, which wisdom teeth extraction is, and so they'll cover the actual removal to some degree.

what im gonna do is go to columbia, which charges $92 for dental checkups for uninsured people, and get the insurance codes for the wisdom teeth removal, then i'll find out how much i'll be looking at spending and THEN my parents will help me pay for it and i'll get it done.

it's retarded that i dont have dental, i wasn't aware of this until i checked about it with my mom the other day when i was gonna make an appointment and she was like "oh yeah no the obamacare thing doesnt apply to it so the coverage doesnt extend to u"
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>>5144404
This begs the question - why not try to improve? Work on not being a lazy, gay, nerd shit. Of all those only lazy and maybe gay are holding you back.

>>5144403
Oh I forgot about that particular US custom.
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>>5143674
Is it weird that while I identify as female I would never transition unless I was with someone who wanted me to?
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>>5144424
I think awkward is probably an acceptable tradeoff for some people here.
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>>5144416
oh yeh I've got that enabled

>>5144418
w-whats a viber
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>>5144426
That sounds awful.
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>>5144426
>flying to another country for a checkup
Is healthcare really that bad in the states?
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>>5144419
No like actual cis boys, like me.
>>5144420
I really hate my voice a lot and get sad when people call me a guy but I think I would be fine with that for a while.
>>5144424
>implying ill ever be anything else

It's very unrealistic but if I was feminine enough to just change clothes and pass I would stay girl mode 90% of the time anyway.
;_;
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>>5144435
Unfortunately. And Canada wont let us have any of theirs.
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>>5144432
whatsapp is how my friend who lives in germany keeps in touch with americans

>>5144429
>Oh I forgot about that particular US custom.
yeah its fucking awesoooooooome

>>5144435
oh jormo
columbia is a university in nyc
>>
>>5144424

if only there was some kind of way you could get rid of that "boy" bit instead of hanging off it for shitpost purposes
>>
>>5144432
>viber
A program to make free calls/texts
www.viber.com/en/
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>>5144435
The country's Colombia.
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>>5144437
>No like actual cis boys, like me.

like i said, repressed trannies
>>
>There is a trans woman and her husband here, I was informed
I hope she isn't like 22, super pretty and feminine, with a great strong husband...
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>>5144434
thanks
it is
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>>5144440
CAPITALISM HO!
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>>5144450
I'm not repressed, I even take hrt!

Just think I might not be trans.
>>
>>5144451
It's probably a fetishistic 40-something with an ugly, pudgy "husband" who is into swinging if it makes you feel better.
>>
mtfg I'm bored and have nothing to do .__.
>>
>>5144424
I mean, you chose this
>>
>>5144460

there's also one with an "i want to mother a child and don't want to go on T" "ftm" "husband"
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>>5144460
Would make me feel better, yes...
>>
So the theme of this thread is now repression, right?
>want to be a girl
>terrified of being a "tranny"
>alcoholism the most appealing option
>can only afford to drink a few days a week
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>>5144470
Or you could just commit suicide
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>>5144440
O-ohh yeh I knew that >_>

>>5144442
What would I post about then?
>tfw remembering the first time I tried to girlmode
Never again

>>5144465
Well I had a nice plan to finish uni and get ffs before going full time, nobody told me I'd get D cups in 4 months
>>
hoorayyyyy new south park episodes
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>>5144466
I forgot about those. Those are the worst. There is a fine line between dysphoria and living your sexual fantasy 24/7 and boy have they crossed it.

>>5144467
Just remember that she is just as cripplingly insecure as you are and that most likely her husband is some degenerate chaser.
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>>5144472
>>
>>5144465

no see it's better to just never actually further your transition socially so you can just come and shitpost about how terrible it is looking like a girl
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>>5144472
Alcoholism is my family's traditional method of slow suicide. I should be gone by my mid 40s.
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>>5144477
I thought about it but the planning of suicide is just too much.
Got to think about the time to do it on and how to do it
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>>5144477
>>
Those of you on hormones, how old were you when you started?
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>>5144488
I started right before my 20th birthday

Eternal hondom
>>
>>5144464
Make some music fam
>>
>>5144488
just after my 18th birthday on estrogen
6 months prior for spiro
>>
Gah, I got an exam soon ;-;
>>5144493
I'm not musical tho ._.
>>
>>5144488
A month or so after turning 20.
>>
>>5144488
20 !
Second puberty HELL!
>>
>>5144497
You don't need to be musical to make music, just make abstract sound and call it ambient noise. :^)
>>
uhhhhhh anne is the best i love her soooooo much
>>5144477
>>5144483
why is this funny to me?
also those things dont work very well irl
>>5144488
22
>>
>>5144488
when I was 17 years old
>>
>>5144488
22 and a halfish
>>
>>5144488
22
>>
>>5144488
>age meme
>>
>>5144488
I'm 20 and a half and it'll be months before i can get any, so. Fuck. I wish I hadn't lied to myself when I was younger. I thought I was too old when I was 18, I thought I could make it like this.
>>
>tfw don't know if trans or self hating boy
>tfw not been feeling very dysphoric lately
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>>5144504
>also those things dont work very well irl
hanging works well it just takes a while
>>
>>5144515
Same, but I think I was still 17 then.

>I still have an adams apple and a bit of facial hair
>I'm not gonna be some disgusting man in a dress
>Better just get away from everyone and die in peace
Turns out, I was stupid.
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>>5144516
iktf ;-;
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>tfw cooking dinner
>tfw no qt bf to cook for and he tells me its nice or something

;~;

cooking for yourself is lonely
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im sad about life, help
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>>5144529
hi whats wrong?
>>
>>5144529
Me too.
I'm a bit fat, I need to exercise so I stop being fat. But body is a bit shit anyway...

And other things, like basically wasted my whole life.
>>
>tfw doubting me being trans because don't feel awful about my face lately
Did I win over gender dysphoria?
I think i'm finally free and cis again.
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>>5144504
>>5144509
>>5144510
>be 22 and haven't started yet (but hopefully will soon)
>tfw seeing that I'm about the same age as you three were when you started
I dunno what any of you actually look like, but I feel like slightly less of a nasty old hon now.
>>
>>5144488
I started just before I turned 19

it was too late
>>
>>5144515
Man, I didn't even lie to myself, I full well knew I wanted to transition at 13 when I found out it was possible. I even wrote a coming out letter at 15 but never gave it to me mum. Fucking anxiety. Though I came out at 18 anyway, my mum wasn't supportive until I started transition myself and went full time.

Though at the most even if she was accepting and i came out at 13 or 15 i would've probably only got hrt like at 18 anyway because of how it is in this country.
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>non transition because fear
>debated it for long enough i'm pretty certain i don't want to change my mind
>subsequently afraid to let anyone in
>don't want a relationship
>don't even want to try
>don't want sex
>don't want anyone to know
>sorta want someone to do stupid little things with and cuddle
>can't because i gotta push people away

The ride never ends
>>
>>5144541
Ehhh
Honestly I'm kind of ugly , but I look feminine I guess
22 is fine don't sweat it
>>5144529
Talk to me sis
Or text us
I think I'm about to knock out
>>
>>5144536
Grattis mejt! You have won, time to hit the gym and get jacked, grow a beard, knock back some beers and have sex with girls.
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>>5144556
Or try to for a week before you cut up your hands punching a mirror at the sight of your stupid boy face and pass out on the bathroom floor stinking of vodka.
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How do you deal with this shit in between phase where you don't look like a guy or a girl? I've been on hormones for around fifteen months, starting at nineteen, and I plan on doing guy mode until I can afford FFS/VFS/whatever. Basically until I can pass as a woman without having people suspect that I'm trans.

Other trannies, friends, and my therapist have told me that I could pass if I stopped wearing guy clothes but I just don't see it at all.

Having people know I'm trans scares the crap out of me, and it's really inhibiting my social/academic/fitness life. I go to the gym at <6 AM because I'm scared that people will see me and think "oh look a tranny let's laugh at it". I haven't been to a university lecture all semester. I do my entire course from my computer and only show up if there's an exam or an assignment to hand in. I've basically become a hermit.

Fuck, how do I stop being such a little bitch.
>>
>>5144527
iktf... one day I might get a boyfriend who is okay with me being an ugly hon and then I'll cook for him and everything will be okay except he will break up with me like a few days later and I'll experience my first heartbreak and I'll be inconsolable and never get another boyfriend ever

>>5144529
I'm about to go to bed sad because like I'm ten years older than nearly everyone here
but like, take a shower and press your boobs on the glass to make circles... its fun and cheered me up today
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>>5144556
No way, I would never want to be masculine or use my penis.
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yo hey how do you know if people think you're not passing or if you are passing or what ?

like...do I really need to care about this?
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>>5144561
Halloween's coming up. Dress up as a female character, do your makeup, and see how it goes. If anyone notices, hey, it's halloween.

Post a pic, this ain't no hugbox.
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>>5144569
If you are capable of not caring about what other people think, then that's a good thing.
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>tfw no breasts
>tfw benis
>tfw small butt
>tfw broadish shoulders
>tfw gross stomach
>tfw small hips

;_; there isn't any hope for me
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so I'm starting to actually get breast growth, like I looked in the mirror and they were pretty noticeably small breasts

which is weird cause it happens so slowly that I feel like nothing has changed
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>>5144561
I'm the same but at about 8 months hrt, it's been getting harder to hide the changes to my body but since I wear a hat all the time and I'm 5ft8 people aren't usually able to tell

My problem is my GIC wants me to go full time before my next meeting in January and I'm not sure if I'll be able to do that or not, I'm really self conscious in boymode so I can't imagine how it'll be. I can't afford to miss lectures either since they check attendance
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>>5144582

Yeah, my hair is getting pretty long and when I don't have a hat or a hoodie on I look super weird. It's also summer here in Australia and I basically have to wear layers in 30+ heat to stop my boobs from showing. I think I'm starting to get neck pains from having to hunch over constantly to stop them from being silhouetted. Life is crap.
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>>5144582

Also:

>My problem is my GIC wants me to go full time before my next meeting in January

That sounds incredibly pushy and awful. Can't you tell them to fuck off?
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How common is it for the penis to stop working completely? As in no erections, nothing happening down below whatsoever?

I'm pre hrt, and a little bit anxious about that. I know you are guaranteed infertile after 6~ months, but what typically happens besides that? How do different drugs and dosages affect how fast the penis loses function and what function is lost? Are there any other factors?

Bonus question, how did your feelings about your penis change after starting hrt?
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>>5144605
I dont give a shit about my dick I just want it gone already. I haven't cum or even touched myself in like 6 months.
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>>5144599
What part of upside down land do you live in? I'm nearish to cambelltown, and we've only had one or two hot days a week, and nothing too bad.
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>>5144606
I hope you're at least getting or trying to get erections so the tissue doesn't atrophy. Like you don't have to touch it just let it become erect. You still want the most amount of tissue for surgery, dysphoria sucks but so does a shallow vag
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>>5144603
I don't know when I went there they were super nice, told me they thought that I had gid and would be fine prescribing me official hormones provided I was full time when I came back for my next appointment. I find it really difficult to say no so just agreed with it, the uk system is weird as well you've got to be diagnosed by two different people with long wait times in between

Also I thought I had it bad last summer in the uk I can't imagine how it must be in Australia
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>tfw cis friend talks about periods with you
thanks I love being reminded I'm reproductively defunct sooooo much
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>>5144618
Did she tell how awful they'd be and how you're so lucky?
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>>5144621
Lucky enough to be born a man, lol!
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>>5144529
Whenever you are sad just think of all the fun people are having without you.
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>>5144605
didn't work pre-HRT, doesn't work on HRT. made me vomit when I saw it in shower before, now just makes me nauseas, usually hold down barfing which used to be a pain in the ass
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>>5144625
Hey its honestly a perk if you ask me. Not everything has to be so bad all of the time.
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how long can I sit in a Starbucks until it starts to get a little awkward
I need to kill time until lunch
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>>5144639
At least you get to have a male brain that way, even if you look like a girl
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Do your best for me today ladies.

>>5144488
25

>>5144647
I worked at a coffee shop and it was normal for people to literally stay from 8 am to 5 pm. Stay as long as you want they won't care or say anything.
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>>5144647
Start by taking belfies
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>>5144650
Laddies*
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>>5144561
woman the fuck up and go full time, 15 months on HRT and not full time. what you need to pass and see yourself as a girl (Assuming you really think you're a girl) is to just have practice and experience living as who you are.

Hormones in guy mode will never make you look like a girl. You don't have to do make up just get some girl jeans and a northface and a bra and get your hair styled and walk outside and observe all the fucks nobody gives. they just going to think you look like a girl. Maybe you're not the hottest sorority girl level chick, but neither are most cis girls.

And if your voice is good, once you talk to them, they'll be too much of a pansy to question you, cause if they're wrong it would be the most awkward thing. If someone says something act as if they're wrong. like, "what the fuck, did you just call me a man, what the fuck is wrong with you"
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today was not the best day to wear a dress but meh

>>5144650
I used to spend all day in starbucks, but that was in the big city, where the dynamic is a little different I think, than this suburban location.
I'm sure I'm overthinking it.

>>5144652
a wha
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>>5144657
You are such a square
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>>5144648
That seems pretty irrelevant to my point. Yeah being trans sucks and "you're never a 'real' girl" but I can live with not buying a tampons/having blood come out my vag for a week every month. You sound stupid but I expect nothing less in this shithole.
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>>5144658
no I'm not I'm hip as heck I've got coffee and thick rimmed glasses

>>5144660
i mean, tbh, i kinda wish i could have periods, but at the same time I totally agree that not having them isn't exactly the worst thing in the world
i just don't like being perceived as different from the average girl, whether by myself or others
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>>5144663
But you get to pee while standing.
That's got to count for something.
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>>5144660
I'm sorry I shat in your safe space ;)
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>>5144667
I pee sitting down, actually
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>>5144561
There is no magical point where people will think you're a girl 100% of the time especially if you try to cling to boymode.
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>>5144672
One of the greatest things ever and you do not partake of it. You probably wipe your dick with a tissue instead of shaking it around gloriously.
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>>5144656
>>5144676
this is sage wisdom btw
more people need to realize this
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>>5144669
>meme response

You didn't. I'm not offended, you just sound like a low caliber retard.
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>>5144108
/k/ hetero-bro here, was passing by and this post reminded me why wanting a trans girl is prolly in my best interest. Keep on keepin on.
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>>5144669
>>5144658
>>5144652
>>5144655
>>5144648

I'm so flattered that, after all these years, I actually have my own special retarded troll <3
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>>5144677
it's so much more comfortable to sit down
enjoy accidentally forgetting to sit when you're in a public restroom
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>>5144685
The only thing that's low caliber here are your chances at having a period like a real woman ^.^
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>>5144677
anon, that's gross. shame.
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>>5144688
One day I will rape you like a repressed indian teenager
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>>5144688
>being a namefag
u asked for it
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>>5144693
You do realize some women dont get periods.
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>>5144108
Get a CZ75 if you can afford it, get a CZ82 if you can't.
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>>5144700
I like things in my butt
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>>5144705
wat
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>>5144702
Pretty sure those women are still genetically real women
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>>5144621
>>5144625

nah she was just angry that it had come early and was gross and its gonna ruin Halloween for her and then suddenly she stopped, realised what she was saying and said sorry and i kind of felt awkward

but yeah I talked about periods and period dysphoria with an older lady and she was pretty understanding of stuff because menopause, but some other girl butted into our conversation saying how lucky I was to not get periods. cheers fat chick with 3 kids, i'll be thankful for being sterile in the first place as well as not having ovaries, i love being born a freak that will never know any sort of biological parenthood.
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>>5144714
biological parenthood is overrated
it's almost 2016, adoption is the way to go
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>>5144714
>cheers fat chick with 3 kids, i'll be thankful for being sterile in the first place as well as not having ovaries, i love being born a freak that will never know any sort of biological parenthood.
This
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>>5144716
I'd adopt as long as it's not spice, rice or black guys.
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>>5144714
Yeah, my grandmother having been forced through menopause at 22 made her very understanding of how bad it could feel.

>>5144716
The main problem is adoption is expensive, and depending on where you are, not particularly reliable to get approved for, especially as a trans woman.
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Guise whats a quick and easy to kill myself?

>on 4chan all day, every day
>not real grill
>virgin
>tfw when no tendies
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>>5144731
I didn't say it was easier or cheaper than having a biological kid, but it's just better and more hip
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>>5144734
Jump
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>>5144731

my older lady friend had counseling when she started the menopause because it fucked with her idea of her own sense of womanhood, now shes just a pregnancy scare-free cougar so obv stuff worked out for her
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How does one tell an ex/friend that you want them out of your life without falling back on criticism and personal attacks?
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>>5144738
I was thinking id stand on my edge of my roof with a chloroform rag and just chloroform myself falling to my death into the family pool where ill drowned
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>>5144745
this is needlessly complex, in that, there are several obvious ways for this to fail
i don't think you really want to kill yourself deep down
so please don't
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>>5144744
Ruin their LSD trip the next time you hang out. You should know this one, elanna.
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>>5144745
I am such a pussy lol
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>>5144700
Yeah, true. I guess I just love the attention that only trolls can give me.

My identity is impossible to spoof, though. Rule number one of being me: Don't be an asshole.

>>5144744
I prefer the straightforward approach. Like, "Hey, we need to talk. I don't think this is healthy, etc. etc."
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>>5144754
I kinda just don't care if someone tries to imitate me
recently someone put on my name and said they were detransitioning, but like, it just doesn't matter to me if some people on 4chan get fed some obvious misinfo about me
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>>5144754
You sound like a self-important asshole though
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>>5144750
I do though

>so please dont
>having my face
>pic related
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>>5144754
Well, it's a self control thing, I've already started by saying that but I think it's going to be hard not to go there.

>>5144751
Lel, hey junkieanon
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>>5144745
FYI chloroform doesn't work like in the movies.
It's take at least twenty minutes for it to knock you out.

I'm planning on using helium, eventually.
>easy to get
>relatively cheap
>no mess
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>>5144756
Well, that's the spirit. Worrying about what people think of you is the cancer of the soul.

>>5144757
Well, you sound bitter. I hope you can get over that and learn to love yourself and others.
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>>5144760
hey I'm not your mom, do what you want with your life
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>>5144488
im 23 and havent started yet.
maybe next week i start with herbal bullshit and in some years with actual hormones.
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>>5144760
You're not exactly pretty. There are lots of cis girls who aren't exactly pretty. It's not nice, but it's not worth killing yourself over.

Have you tried a hairstyle with bangs? I think it'd frame your face better.
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>>5144650
caddy please post a selfie smiling to make my whole existence have a meaning
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I know you all can't really give a good estimate without pictures but I don't want to post any because I'm worried someone I'm not out to might see me, so I'll just ask, what would you say the average persons chance of passing is if they begin transition at 18?
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>>5144760
you look terrific hon!
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>>5144763
>helium
ugh, it's so limited, don't waste it just to end your life especially if you wait long
Use nitrogen, any welding shop has it and it works just as well. There are three shops within walking distance from me where I could get it, that's how easy it is.
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>>5144777
good, if you actually try and aren't afraid to go out in girlmode
there are a lot of uncomfortable parts to transitioning early on, but you have to do them regardless, don't put it off forever like a lot of people do

i did that myself, and I'm still kicking myself
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>>5144760
L2makeup
get bangs
WHAT ARE THOSE? (eyebrows)
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>>5144785
>WHAT ARE THOSE? (eyebrows)
fuck, I spit out my coffee
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>>5144787
sorry, I hope they don't kick you out ;~;
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How many here are mega milk?
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>>5144784
I'm not sure if you're bullshitting me or not but just hearing someone say I've actually got some chance is really comforting, so thanks.
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hey, wuts up?

just got power back after the storm last night and my face is still all sensitive from electrolysis the other day
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>>5144794
>tfw no breasts
;~~;
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>>5144795
Yeah. It's a good chance.
You'll still be miserable, but marginally less so :)
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>>5144799
>marginally less so
Only for the first year or so, generally you get a lot less miserable after that.
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>>5144795
you'll be fine, just don't half ass it
i started at the tail end of 19 years old and I turned out absolutely fine
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>>5144796
hi
storm wasn't so bad here, we didn't lose power but it woke me up a few times in the night
i have a laser appointment this Saturday, on Halloween
this'll be our 4th session and I feel like it's not working that well so electro is likely in my future
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>>5144488
24. RIP in piece me
>all these kids saying they're too old for transitioning at 19-20

>>5144721
oh boy, feels ;-;

>>5144796
that was a bad storm haha. Glad to know you got power back. I ended up hanging with friends in South Portland ( >>5143753 ) so I didn't even know power was going out haha
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>>5144488
18
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>>5144488
19
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>>5144798
one big day Carol, one big day...
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>>5144488
27
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>>5144488
24 and i made it
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>>5144744
hide in your room until no one wants to hangout with you anymore
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Is it a good idea to go fulltime when you're "andro-maleish" so that you can get SRS and get rid of the cancer between your legs ?
----
I'm in Canada , so for SRS , you need to have been fulltime for 1 years to get SRS ... if I start fulltime after 6 months , It'll take another year and a half before I can actually get SRS but I really don't want to wait 2 + years >.<
---
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>>5144829
That seems like it would cause a lot of collateral damage. I just want this one person out of my life even if they are currently my best friend.
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>>5144831
go fulltime asap
this is objectively the best policy
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>>5144829
Sounds like I've been sending a lot of people the wrong message.

>>5144831
Some people who have been through RLE say it was the worst experience ever and some are supportive of it. No way to tell how it will go for you without trying.
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>>5144824
;~~; not soon enough
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>>5144837
Being forced into RLE is terrible but if you can do it of your own will then you should
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>>5144831
2 years will go by faster than you think. However going full-time as soon as you can is a good idea for more reasons than just SRS. It won't be pleasant but the sooner you get it over with the better.
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>>5144837
I think making people do it is kinda shitty, but letting people make the choice for themselves is fine.

>>5144831
If your goal is just to get SRS as soon as possible, then your considerations here are basically how safe it is to be obviously trans.
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at the risk of sounding really stupid how do they assess if you are actually fulltime or not? like if you needed a time period of being full time before SRS can't you just like.. say you are full time and live how you normally do and then just rock up to apointments in girlmode kinda thing? IDK but that is probably what I would do if I needed to.
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>>5144488
25, I started 7 weeks ago, things are going well
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>>5144839
i think required RLE is an incredibly stupid policy, especially when it's required before you can even GET hormones, but at the same time, I think that once people get HRT, they shouldn't put off going fulltime for very long
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>>5144844
The easiest things to look at are paper trails on things like name and ID changes. A psych or hrt issuing doctor backing you up might also help.
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>>5144831
Here's a big secret: unless your idea of boymode is full femboy, you will always be andro when you go full time because there's a ton of things you can't really do in real boymode.

Second secret: most people go ft in that kind of timespan and manage perfectly fine.

HRT will not give you a magical understanding of fashion, and it will not fix the social cues your voice has to take on to force it into a more masculine range.
>>5144488
19
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>>5144844
They'll ask your Psy , the school / workplace , probably people that you know ....

"The purpose of the RLE is to confirm that a given transgender person can function successfully as a member of said gender in society, as well as to confirm that they are sure they want to live as said gender for the rest of their life"
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>>5144844
You could do that, nobody is going to be checking up on you to see if you're doing your rle. However, I think it's sort of defeating the point of rle, and transition in general. If the end goal is to be perceived as female then it's very difficult to be able to do that without doing some sort of rle, you don't pick up social cues, voice and fashion while in boymode.
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Self med anon from a month ago. I haven't learned my lesson and am going back to the skittles.

I went way wrong with keeping drinking and probably eating stuff with potassium in (fuck you plums). What does mtfg eat for a balanced healthy diet?

>>5144397
>still having wisdom teeth
How do you even avoid them
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I won't have to do RLE before HRT, right?
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>>5144858
Depends on where you live , RLE is mainly for Surgery and other things.
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>>5144856
An uncle who's a farmer, half a bottle of vodka, and a pair of pliers.
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>>5144858
A 14 year old in the UK already out to family? You'd be an idiot not to be doing RLE as much as possible.
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>>5144860
In the UK
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>>5144844
mostly this I guess >>5144850
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>>5144854
>tfw my school has contradictory info and my government used to expect srs even for name changes until about 2010

>>5144844
Usually it's more or less your word, friends' word, and psych's/doctor's word.
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>>5144862
I get embarrassed and feel ugly :(
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>>5144867
Welcome to being trans. Get over it or accept that it's a giant obstacle to every part of your transition.
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>>5144867
welcome to being human
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>>5144812
yeah it was mostly wind but right around here there are a lot of old trees barely stubbornly standing that tend to finally come down in these sorts of storms
I was kinda waking and tossing and turning all night but I think it was more cus the storm was riling up our new kitten
I still haven't made any plans for halloween since I'm such a self-hating hermit and sure I'd fuck up anything anyway
I had like 5 laser sessions and they cleared away teh majority of my hair especially more on my face though there was still a scatting left on my lip and stuff and on my neck and my electrolysis person said that those hairs do seem to be more red, after trying both I prefer electrolysis in general

>>5144818
yeah the storm peaked around like 2 in the morning or something so we had power till bed and then woke up to it out but my partner called right away and they got it back pretty quickly,
congrats on the fun time!

>>5144834
y? that might be kinda relevant to how u should go about it
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>>5144869
Its hard though,I know that people will think I am weird ;~~;
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>tfw you psss irl but mtfg says you don't
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>>5144849
Yeah p much!!
It's good for like pushing forwards stuff like surgeries but also helps with like motivation and stuff
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>>5144882
Cool story Angie. Maybe people justifiably hate you and say things to try to hurt you. You probably shouldn't stick around a place like that.
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>>5144875
>scatting left
scattering left*
srry, I'm already kinda tipsy/drunk

>>5144882
iktf, butt-ugly yet passing masterrace!
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>>5144861
>there are people who actually do DIY dentistry
Getting wisdom teeth properly removed sounds horrible too what with all the jaw breaking
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>>5144863
in the uk, RLE is a requirement to get on hormones, often for up to a year. the private system is more like informed consent, they'll want a psych assessment and a blood test from your GP but generally you can get mones within a few weeks... for a price. or you can self med. self med for 6+ months and your clinic will step in and give you mones because after that point, some changes become permanent and you will fuck yourself up if you stop.

oh you're super young, all trans stuff for minors is handled by some children's hospital in London idk
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>>5144882
>tfw you pass irl but you don't think you pass yourself
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>>5144892
Good to see some orginality is still here in this part of the Internet
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>>5144882
>tfw you don't pass irl and fulltime seems like 5000 lightyears away
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>>5144899
>in the uk, RLE is a requirement to get on hormones, often for up to a year

FUCK I'm dead ,why?
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I guess for me I will wait a bit to see if hormones do anything tbh I'm just really nervous and shy to begin with & I am pretty meek so IDK.

I also need to fake my own death or something as so far as my parents are concerned
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>>5144899
Not at the clinics I'm aware of! Some clinics require RLE but I'm pretty sure most don't nowadays, certainly not pre-hrt
Private clinics definitely don't if you can afford them

>>5144910
Kit I rly hope stuff with your parents goes ok, it sounds scary but I think you'll manage it!!
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>>5144910
http://m.wikihow.com/Fake-Your-Own-Death
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>>5144875
>why?
Because it's not a healthy friendship. I still blame him and resent him for breaking up back several months ago, and increasingly think he's a selfish prick. He's in a rough patch right now. He'll use me for emotional support but ranks seeing and talking to me as a low priority when I need it. I'm starting to get tired of it and I'm picking fights with him with little provocation.
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>>5144875
yea we're probably not doing anything for Halloween either
we're going to my gfs office party today but I think that's gonna be it

i have a sneaking suspicion that someone there is gonna be wearing the Caitlyn Jenner costume, going off how my girlfriend describes her coworkers

>>5144885
also it takes practice
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>>5144875
ah ok yea I was asleep by then and I usually sleep like a rock haha
And yea! It was kinda funny cause my friend and I just talked in the front seat about getting our eyebrows and nails done and the two boys in the back were just like uhhhhhh but it was really fun <3
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>>5144488
Came out 26th birthday, rigorously practiced makeup and voice for 2 months and then immediately went full-time the day i started hormones.

Being an effeminate manlet with a background in singing helped.
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>>5144910
>I also need to fake my own death or something
I used to think that would be a good idea, but it would be really shit. Just move out, write a letter (say you won't take any phone calls) and hope they write back positively.

>>5144856
>self bump
Serially, what other people do for diets and healthy eating when medding?
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>>5144909
because we have a cruel archaic system with no significant laws passed since 2004. hell it wasn't until 2013 the Royal College of Psychologists or whatever advised the NHS to step in with self medding after a certain time, beforehand they'd either discharge you or force you go go cold turkey before getting blood baselines and starting from scratch, after the RLE requirement.

the uk is shit.

>>5144918
I thought it was all of them, pretty much.
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>>5144927
well that's something to maybe focus on, he just isn't healthy for you, you don't hate him or want to hurt him but you just can't be around him because it's bad for you, no one can fault you for taking care of yourself

>>5144929
sounds shitty, good luck!
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I'm off and not sure what to do today
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>>5144940
Did singing help significantly with voice? I find it really hard to get privacy for voice training, but might be able to get it for singing.
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>>5144918
thanks erin ;~;

>>5144941
idk i just don't want to be a dissapointment to them. i just have this real dread about them being like "accepting" but just hugely dissapointed on the inside IDK. i have like four other siblings so its not like they would be extremely upset imo ;~; (i mean they would ofc be sad and upset but they would get over it)
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