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MTFG: transwoman general

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▶Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
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▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
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▶Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶Minecraft Server: minecraft.is-so.moe
old>>5142098
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>>5143674
what an ugly white trash tranny

white people with their flat butts and blond hair should burn
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Timelines edition?
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>>5143677
the fuck you even on fam?
pic related

nice doubles

she looks like those eastern european models
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>>5143689
That skirt is just not for trans girls
like seriously
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this is my goal.
it will take me a lot of thousands gold coins and a lot of time, and I already lost hope many years ago :^]
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>>5143690
hmm yeah it does not favors to her legs but I guess there is no accounting for tasted
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>>5143694
I have a pair of wedge heels!
I measured, and they're only 2.5" actual heel, but with 1" or 0.5" plateu.
They already felt sorta tall, I wonder what actual high heels feel like.
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Why did lanugo (newborn baby hair) start growing everywhere on my body and face after I reduced my cypro dose?
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>>5143702
im not really into wearing heels, and im like really short 5'6. But I guess I would do it because its feminine.
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>>5143715
you are a baby now
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>>5143674
Not going to lie, at first glance I seriously thought that was a diaper. That is an ugly skirt.

>>5143677
>white people with their flat butts
Mhm.
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>>5143715
you are a cute anime girl now! :o
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I just epilated my face for the first time. My face hurts, a lot.
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Just got back with hanging with friends, ended up going reeeaaaallllyyyy well! Had lots of fun, ended up talking with one of my close friends and her boyfriend and our good friend about being trans (I had already come out to her though but the other two didn't know) and it was funny. They bombarded me with questions and I trolled her bf cause he's really squeemish talking about vaginoplasty and orchies and stuff like that.
We also had a long hour talk about girl stuff and it just felt good! She also recommended a good place to get my eyebrows threaded so I may go do that this weekend!

>>5143741
stop triggering me plz
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Hey /mtfg/, how do you feel about being called dude?
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>>5143674
Hmm, wow, yes, now I want to die again.
>tfw ugly gross flabby jaw/neck skin
I was just never meant to be happy, was I?
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I want to get my eyebrows done but I don't know what to ask for or how to ask for it.
I'd imagine the general guidelines for guy eyebrows and girl eyebrows are different, so I need to figure out how to ask for them to be done like a girl's too.
Anyone know how this stuff works? I could really use some advice
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>>5143755
at least it's honest
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>>5143683
right in the dysphoria
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>>5143674
I spaghettied once when I stopped her on the street so know every time I see her she literally runway struts right past me :-[
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>>5143771
Gudiiiiiiit!!!
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>>5143744
B-but I'm a boy. With big nipples.
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>>5143771
>tfw met two of my musical idols (brothers)
>tfw one of them writes a lot of lyrics about his social anxiety problems as a teenager / early 20s so even though I spaghettied he just nodded knowingly and they were chill about it
I think the trick is to only idolise people who are similar to you
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>>5143771
>runway struts right past me
like, because that's her natural gait and she's trying to avoid you? or because she's making fun of you by showing off?
maybe approach her in disguise next time
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>>5143768
No idea either but I'm just gonna yolo it. Like I said earlier I'm gonna get them threaded (which is the best way to get them done) and gonna ask them to be shaped in a more feminine way. Just gonna yolo and if I spill spaghetti w/e cause I want to look good
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>>5143749
Shouldn't do that tbh, you are stimulating the area and encouraging thicker, darker hair to take it's place.
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>>5143749
don't do that, it'll fuck up future electrolysis
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>>5143782
I've thus far spaghettied on about 10 top models, Gwen Paltrow, Juliana Huxtable and Nicki Minaj scowled at me when I notice her as I walked past her

:-/ I wish to have social grace, but get too excited.
>>5143787
Gait/avoid
>>5143775
Hi
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>>5143792
>>5143797
Are you fucking with me right now? Because that really hurt to do.
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>Tfw high and watching Chopped
This is the life girls :3 WHEEEEE
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>>5143799
How the fuck do you meet these people? Where do you live, New York?
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>>5143807
Yes. I literally see Moot weekly.
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>>5143807
>New york
aye

she does

but dont' you post on gaygen usually?
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>>5143814
Call him a cuck and a traitor
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>>5143806
that sounds amazing tbh
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>>5143819
No I just asked for his picture and chatted a bit, wanna ask him some stuff about the website and what he's up to now but yeah he's actually really social which is a surprise.
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>>5143802

>>5143792
is fucking with you

but you really could damage the follicles to the point where electrolysis becomes much harder to do
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>LGD loses to CDEC
>crush has been offline for an hour
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>>5143802
No way would I joke about this when facial hair is the worst thing and I used to pluck and got a lecture from the person that does my electro.
Shaving does the least and doesn't encourage growth.
>>5143831
Nope not messing around, they showed me some material that says what I wrote. I'm not saying it will happen, but it Can encourage that type of growth. Excuse me for phrasing it in a way that made it sound like it will 100% happen.
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>>5143838
>still watching dota
meta has been dead for years.
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>>5143828
He is still a cuck and a failure and his entire persona screams male lesbian

he would fit right in here
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>>5143842
Moot is literally Kiwi
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>>5143831
Let me run this by you, I've got sparse light facial hair. It grows in a stupid pattern but it's hardly noticeable unless I let it grow out for a while. Should I shelve the thing and just save up for electrolysis? I figured I could just epilate indefinitely since that + hrt would thin it even more.
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>>5143840
>implying lol has any meta
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I made a new friend :DD
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>>5143848

>come on bro, just open up
>I just wanna' talk to ya'
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>>5143842
He's a sweetheart, kind and patient

Literally the only thing close to a celeb who didn't think I was weird.
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Get yo certificates changed, girls.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-34650486
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>>5143854
That's because whatever you have said or done you're probably still normal compared to some the other people from this website that he encounters daily.
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>>5143848
Fuck moths.

I went to a butterfly enclosure once and damn near had a panic attack, and moths are worse because they leave gross dust on you and have fat bodies and crinkly wings and are faster.
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>>5143846
>Should I shelve the thing
Just use it on your body tbh
If you don't have that much hair just save up for electrolysis, they might have a discount for transwomen and then you don't have to worry about it or waste time on it.
Just shave for now.
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>>5143864
Good point
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>>5143871
Eh, it's a facial epilator. It was only made for the face. I do have a body one coming in. So I *can* epilate my body then right?
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>>5143741
I will achieve this butte one day. ONE DAY.
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>>5143848
stick him in your ear
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>>5143873
Yeah but most facial epilators are for very thin hair, I guess try to return it or shelve it like you said. I mean you could have asked here before
Yeah you can epilate body hair, that doesn't matter as much.
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>>5143880
so you came out as kinda leaning straight and ricky came out as leaning lesbian

I just wanted to say, this is like some yin-yang shit
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>>5143840
>making objectively false statements
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>>5143887
I'd probably just hurt him if I tried picking him up ;_;
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>>5143900
DVA you got some wierd shit going on- werent you friends with a spider?
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>>5143896
>I mean you could have asked here before
I got caught up in things, I was just excited and I guess I convinced myself I could handle this without needing to make a social thing out of it. Talking to all the electrolysis people about me being a tranny, it'll be stressful. But if it's the only way it's the only way. How bad did I mess up my electrolysis if I only epilated this once?
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>>5143898
Qué?
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>>5143868
But that's all the stuff that makes them cute
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>>5143909
It is like a Charge parity violation except not

anyway

how ya been ya basic bitch?
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>>5143905
Don't worry, you're fine. If you kept doing it then it could be a problem.
I can see not wanting to ask but don't stress, just drop by here whenever you need help or even the trans help general. Just be glad you asked before you actually did some damage.
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>>5143903
Idk who you're talking about but I have actually been friends with some spiders before
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>>5143918
sorry I confused you with a trip who has a nice butt

who are better bros? spiders or beetles?
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>>5143838
>tfw I'll never be bexe's crush
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>>5143873
it was probably also made for cis women.

different kind of hair
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>>5143914
I still don't understand. How are Ricky and I related?
>how ya been ya basic bitch?
Kind of shitty, also I'm becoming goth/alt bitch tyvm, no basicness for me.

Also Ricky if you're about, I slaughtered a bunch of Elves on Witcher 3 and afterwards thought that would make you proud.
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>>5143922
I used to find Japanese beetles on this raspberry bush thing that used to be in my yard. I'm pretty sure they caused it to die, and I gotta say, bros don't kill their bros' raspberry bushes
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>>5143929
it is okay don't worry your pretty little head about it

but if you want to think about it I found similarities between you and Ricky's volatile initial temperaments

except you are funnier
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>>5143851
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>>5143937
Swiggity swooty
He coming for that booty
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>>5143937
>dude let me in
>i'm a fairy
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>>5143755
it confuses me because I don't know if I'm being clocked or if they're just a general dudebro
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tfw nips are puffier than the puffiest puffs that ever puffed.
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What's the safest way to socially transition? I'm incredibly shy, with an anxiety disorder among other things. I don't want people to comment much if at all.
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>>5143929
Good afternoon Raifu how are you?
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>>5143964
Unless you look flawless people are going to comment, but even then they will still murmur, the only way to have people say nothing at all is to never let them see you.
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>>5143964
Become a faithful muslim.
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Should I make an OKC??
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>>5143972
What are you into? you will do fine, just be bombarded with guys/girls asking for 3somes
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Is this tape ok for tucking/using on your nipples?

>>5143964
>I don't want people to comment much if at all.
I don't think there's any way to stop that, even if they don't say things to you they'll talk behind your back
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>>5143976
depends how sticky but ouch...
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>>5143972
That would be funny, you should do it.
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>>5143975
Huh?
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good morning mtfg


whats everyone up to rn??
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>>5143934
>it is okay don't worry your pretty little head about it
You say that like I'm some cute ditsy blonde. I'm just partially retarded.
>you and Ricky's volatile initial temperaments
Who the fuck are you calling volatile?
>>5143965
>afternoon
It's 2:37AM.
>how are you?
Wishing I could start my inking and piercings, but alas, I am broke, and need to pay for transition stuff and saving money to move.
>>5143964
Like if you just stick to people you know and places you're comfortable, you can avoid anyone confronting you mostly, but avoiding comments is nigh impossible, especially if HRT is kind to you.

I basically just avoid being in public as much as possible and stay at home or work until I'm confident enough to actually, like, tell people I'm a girl, and actually use my girl voice. Keeps the anxiety down. That and a lot of weed.
>>5143972
If you want dick, sure. Or top quality keks from the possible messages you'll get.
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>>5143980
you will get plentof attn on okc, just be prepared to get asked for threesomes from girls
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>>5143987
That sounds crazy what piercings do you wanna get i tihnk you could rock them!
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>>5143976
>using on your nipples
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>>5143987
>Or top quality keks from the possible messages you'll get.
This is why I had one tbh

>>5143992
I don't wanna wear a bra but my nipples are too puffy not to
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>>5143987
>if you want dick
Heh
>>5143988
Oh? Why is that?
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>>5143964
safest way would probably be to take hormones while still presenting as a guy, and when you start getting to the point that even that is hard then you move states and present as a girl

of course that would assume you know how to perfectly present female, and doing so out of nowhere would be insane

just take it step by step and accept that people will make comments, but it will go down as you pass more and more

>>5143985
making some dinner, playing pokemon, and thinking about tripping for good

what about you?
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>>5143987
>Who the fuck are you calling volatile?
dammit you just need to get a hold of yourself woman
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>>5143994
if you set the settings to bi you will get plenty of guys but
for some reason the odd woman comes along and wants to have a 3 some with you and her boyrfirend
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>>5143994
don't you have a gf?
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>>5143985
Just got home from work. It's relaxing time! How about you?
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>>5143994
If I were you I wouldnt make an OKC unless I was honest about my appearance. Take some normal straightforward pictures. Im saying this for your own good.
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>>5143996
>>5144004
umm i just woke up so IDK mb i'll go out and get some food in a sec or something

>>5143993
hi jormy :3
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>>5143991
I'm gonna have my snakebites redone, lobes, at least one helix, and a couple people have said I would look good with a nostril piercing. I also am thinking of nipples, and hip piercings, maybe naval. And maybe Jacob's ladder.

I would say a Prince Albert, but being on the receiving end of one wasn't so great imo.
>>5143992
>being a little bitch
>>5143993
>I don't wanna wear a bra
>being a slut
>>5143997
YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD!
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If a cis guy pretends to be a trans girl on the internet who is he trolling?
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>>5144011
Jacobs ladders seem so weird i think you can rock alot of those i'd have to trawl through the archives for your face to be sure
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>>5144012
herself
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>>5144008
Ohayou

>>5144011
Well its not like I'd be walking around topless.... or maybe I will. I need to work on my tan and its not illegal for guys to be topless. Thats one good thing about not being able to change your offical sex without srs I guess
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>>5144002
Not any more ;_;
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>>5144031
oh
why what happened
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>>5144031
cucked
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>>5143911
weird creepy bug dust and flapping erratically
no.
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>>5144012
/mtfg/?
>>5144015
Just imagine a handsome young Dutch/Irish boy with pretty long red hair. That's basically my face.
>Jacobs ladders seem so weird
I kinda wish I could find a guy with one to try, I think I would enjoy them. But then again,
>tfw could never find a guy with one that isn't toally gross and would even consider sex with me
>>5144024
Careful, someone from Tumblr might think you're trying to make some statement, and follow suite.
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>>5144038
>handsome young Dutch/Irish boy with pretty long red hair


oh my
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>>5143964
Move to the queer part of town, if there is one. Mine is like an incubation chamber for new girls, a lot of trans people so you don't actually stand out, basically a pretty safe place to be while you practice presentation. Go to work or school or whatever in boy mode, if you want. Then do the moving state thing other anon said.
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>>5144038
>Careful, someone from Tumblr might think you're trying to make some statement, and follow suite.
Is that a bad thing tho?
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>>5144038
You dyed your hair red that's dope tbh pics when
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>>5144038
I want to buy my first handgun and im lurking k now.

What was your first gun?
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>>5144073
Oooh gun talk! What are you planning on getting it for?
My first gun was a 10/22 my dad bought for me
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>>5144073
>>5144077
Anon asked the right question. We need to know what you plan to use the handgun for before we can make a recommendation. Also, what's your price range?

My first gun purchase was a Springfield 1911A1
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>>5144081
Shooting myself of course :^)
But seriously self defense and for show.

I can spend about five hundred dollars or so. I honestly want one that looks visually intimidating also

>>5144077
That's awesome how much does a gun usually run around for a pistol? I want to start collecting guns a little bit more they are so fucking cool. Don't know anything about them though.
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>4 visitors on my profile
>4 people like you!
Lol?
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oh my fucking god, this game...

i just finished episode 4 and... i cant even...
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>>5144045
Yes.
>>5144062
When I can cope with taking pics again.
>>5144073
My first gun was a Zastava N-PAP. My first handgun was a Sig P220.

How much experience do you have with shooting?
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>>5144095
Well, for a price range that low, you're pretty limited. Brand new handguns usually run in the $600-800 range, depending on the make and model, of course. For a beginning shooter, which I assume you are, it'll probably be best to start with some sort of 9mm. There's the never-ending debate of 9 vs. 45 (which I'm in the 45 camp), however, for a new shooter you're going to want lower recoil and a larger magazine. I'm pretty biased when it comes to manufacturers, but I know a lot of people swear by Glock. Also, if you're big on the self defense aspect, you're going to want a compact frame. They're smaller, lighter, and easier to conceal should you get your CCW permit.

Intimidation-wise, that's all up to interpretation, I suppose. Don't buy a desert eagle.
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>>5144108
Buying a desert eagle is a one stop ticket to letting recoil bite you back and break your nose.
Do not be the dumbass girl in the Youtube video.
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>>5144102
They should have called it Life is Horrible

>>5144105
>people walking around topless
>bad
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>>5144105
That's cool just as good as i get to see it! i'm excited for when you get enough money to get pierced!
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>need to be up to start getting ready for work in like 4 hours
Sleep or just stay up?
>>5144108
Basically this, anon. And to throw my bias in, look at CZ75s. The weight, bore axis, and 9mm makes it easy to shoot, and it feels like pure sex in my hands. Or if looking at long guns, there's nothing wrong starting with a .22. I'm fond of Savage 64s, but 10/22s have an amazing aftermarket.
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>>5144105
I don't have any expierence. I actually hurt myself the one timec that I did and that got me scared of guns.

>>5144108
Yeahs that's basically all I want is a small compact gun to carry with me. Im going to try to get my ccw. Guns are expensive holy shit

What's wrong with desert eagles are they a meme?
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>>5144124
Go to the gas station, buy a fuckton of caffeine, and drink it all before a nap.
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>>5144126
Yes, they're very expensive. My recommendation would be to research the big manufacturers on your own and find something you like, and then just save up for it. If you have a local range that lets you rent/try handguns, too, that'll be great for deciding.

Desert Eagles are just too large and too expensive to be anything but a novelty, I think.

I'm a fan of Sig and FN, personally. FN handguns are too big to conceal, though, and Sig is crazy expensive. I agree with Raifu, CZ has some nice handguns.
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>>5144135
You're awesome val.
I didn't realize there were so many gun enthusiasts here
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If you ever feel bad about your appearance, remember people like this exist.
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>>5144144
Aww, thanks~ It's....my most boyish hobby, I suppose, but I love my guns <3

>>5144149
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

His parents must be so proud.
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looks like i'm going to have to bind with ACE bandages when my mom visits me this weekend. Not out to her. I plan to come out this thanksgiving?

How do you come out to one of those "soft" liberal types who still call Caitlyn Jenner by her birthname and thinks that the mention of me dating a boy (while she still perceives me as a boy) is "oh that's nice just don't shove it in my face/do any sort of pda"?
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>>5144121
Yeah it's honestly an emotional rollercoaster. One minute I'm happy over things appearing to go the way I want in the game and next I'm in complete shock or I get feels over a scene
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>>5144149
>hi I'm here for the job interview

>>5144152
>His parents must be so proud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ptezV-7eM
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>>5144152
I read your pictures filename as upvote.
But yeah guns are a cool hobby. I wish more girls here would stop judging how female they are by hobbies
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>>5144168
It's like there are three jobs for mtfs, though. programmer, makeup artist, or sex worker.
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>>5144163
More like
>Hith Im here forth th jobth intherfiew
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>>5144163
"When we're 70 we'll love them even more!"
My sides!

>>5144168
Not upvote, but close!

With the amount of hobbies I have, I'd go insane if I tried to judge my femininity by them. I'd rather be interesting and do things I find fun than conform to the gender roles of society.
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>>5144175
>cant program
>shit at makeup
>ugly as fuck
welp
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>>5144180
That's the way to be. I see so many girls just role play and do things that they hate just so it makes them feel more feminine. Its weird to me. I guess I would rather just see everyone do what they are good at
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>>5144181
Do the codecademy javascript course.
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>>5144190
>javascript
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>>5144196
Nobody likes using it, and everyone has to. If you want a job quickly, it's your best bet.
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>>5144149
Sigh, even people like this can get bf's though ;_;
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>>5144196
>confused anime girl image number 54
>posts the same three images on rotation

Explain yourself jorm jorm
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>>5144153
you should probably just wear a sports bra and a sweater, it'd do the job just as well without damaging ur boobs
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>>5144207

She saves the rest to show off to her fellow 4chan gold users.
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>>5144207
Its not a confused anime girl image tho?
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>>5144190
learn angular too
or just whore yourself.
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>>5144220
I'd prefer to whore myself than to keep working with angular.

React was fun for a bit, and I'm not sure if ES6 is *actually* nice or if it's just nice by comparison.
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>tfw you're lewding yourself and the dildo goes from not being able to go in to breaking through and sliding in entirely
G U H
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>>5144223
is that a positive guh? i have not had that experience myself.
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>>5144228
Very positive
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>>5144232
Hmm. Maybe I should clean up and get mine out again...
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hello, told a white lie and am now back
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>>5144206
s
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>>5143674
Oh we are posting Andrej.
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>>5144237
Hello, what's been happening little car?
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>>5144245
nothing much but I got my CAMHS appointment on Friday the 13th
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I can't do anal, it just feels like it burns
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>>5144246
Spooky.
Congrats though thats really great.
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>>5143678
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>>5144248
Hopefully something will actually get done this time :D
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>>5144206
At least they look happy? I have no problem with tattoos, but i hope she prepared herself for being unable to get a job that isn't in a tattoo parlor ever again.
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>>5144249
you were a cute boy and now you are a cute girl
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>>5144249
It is depressing that you passed better pre-HRT than I do now.

all aboard the suicide train.
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>>5144237
i thought thats what had happened.
do you post with a proxy?
you should try that
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>>5144249
I asked where you got your sweater and you never answered ;_;
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>>5144262
I don't have a proxy, but I did lie to not be kept off
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>>5144265
oh
well
that works too lol
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>>5144249
It looks like you just lost a little weight. I honestly see no other changes.
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>>5144263
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOAPP-39544

Here's a picture from today. I handed out candy to kids with my sorority sisters. The girl I'm with is edited out for privacy, of course.
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I think I'm done ever eating or having sex again.
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>>5144278
You know you'll be doing it again very soon you fat slut.
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>>5144278
But those are good for you
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>>5144278
No one asked.
>you'd ever eat less
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>>5144281
no chaser.jpg
yes, I'm directing this at you, lol
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>>5144286
I am trans. Troll pls go
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>>5144271
QQ trans sorority girls being a thing is cute as fuck
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>>5144255
hot topic could get some cred if they hired girl like this

>>5144287
when I first got here someone said trips chase each other, and I was like, "wat you talking about willis?
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So how do you tell if it's just AGP, or if you're actually trans? I feel like I might just be cherry picking cases of not feeling like a boy from my past, when it wasn't significant enough to warrant transition really.
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hi everyone wahts goiing on??
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>>5144292
crying abot not being included with other girls//about not being able to get pregnant is a good sign
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>>5144292
>tfw the less masculine I get the less I feel the need to transition because I don't have a life anyway
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>>5144278
:(

>>5144289
I was just thinking the same thing

>>5144293
heya
I'm just waiting for the rude neighbours to stop arguing and turn their music off so I can go to bed
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>>5144292
Liking girls, getting turned on when you put on girls clothes, no dysphoria, fine with being obvious trans
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>>5144297
>about not being able to get pregnant is a good sign
>agp
pls
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>>5144289
at first the school was like "ok" and then "no trans girls in sorority" but then my friend talked to them and they were alright with it again. really weird. also, there's a sister just about as tall as me so i don't tower over everybody
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>>5144299
but its so early sheen ! ._.
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>>5144308
but I'm so tired
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>>5144293
Hey Kit, what are you up to?
I'm eating chilli.
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>>5144271
if I had a perpetual smile, I'd pass everytime
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>>5144313
hey shell! i am about to cook dinner I guess.

What kinda chili? is it nice?? I WANT SOME

>>5144310
ya im quite tired aswell tbh but I gotta stay up tonight cause i got work tomorrow night so i need to sleep most of tomorrow ;~;
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>>5144315
I think I'm not passing. I just don't.
but at least I'm somewhat attractive.
But i think the world just hugboxes me too much but i know i don't pass, maybe wont for a long time
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>>5144318
>What kinda chili? is it nice??
Mum's chilli, its soooo good. Easily my fav dish of hers.
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tfw you walk to the highway but don't have the courage to put yourself under any of the trucks that come by
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>>5144318
>ya im quite tired aswell tbh but I gotta stay up tonight cause i got work tomorrow night so i need to sleep most of tomorrow ;~;
oh :(
I'd like to work nights, but I'd need to get like a block out curtain or a foam cutout for my window or something so I could sleep
>>
who is awake rn??
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>>5144329
>posting as anon
Its like you don't want responses.
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>>5144329
Oh man trucks are a bad way to go. Think of the suffering you would inflict on that poor driver.
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>>5144334
tfw u used to cal me on my cellphone
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>>5144339
LATE NIGHT WHEN U---

ps I LOVE YOU
also can u go on skype right quick?
or should i just txt u
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>tfw nobody will ever perve on your obvious upskirt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VbhWypYdR4
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T-T-TIMELINE S-S-SENPAI~
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>>5144345
Why would you want that
>>5144329
don't do that anon
>>5144334
i am
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>>5144334
I wish I wasn't.
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>>5144321
you dress a lot
when you go out in public place outside of school,
can people tell you are trans? or do people see you as a random girl?
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>>5144349
>Why would you want that
I just want a flat crotch that underwear fits right on
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>>5144336

better no responses than the type being a trip seems to bring

>>5144338
>Think of the suffering you would inflict on that poor driver.

why would that even matter to me when i'm already inflicting suffering on my family by killing myself in the first place tbh
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>>5144343
best ot just text tbh
im nude and getting ready foor work
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>>5144355
Me too .__.
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>>5144338
>unironically thinking anything matters when you're dead
The world ends with you.
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>>5144358
sentttt
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>>5144361
>solipsism
>2k15
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>>5144334
im awake

>>5144323
that sounds hella nice tbh
1 more day and you're free shell ;~;
are you doing anything for halloween?

>>5144330
working nights is pretty horrible sometimes but I kinda like it, I affords me tiime to talk to my best friends online and such
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>>5144356
Yes but your family, by the virtue of being your family, is forced to put up with your crazy.
That poor hypothetical driver on the other hand is not your family and should not suffer for your wrong lifestyle choices.

>>5144361
You leave people behind. I know you might not care about them but others do.
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https://unsee
.cc/bitozuma/
OH MY GOSH MY NEPHEW IS LITERALLY THE CUTEST THING EVER

>>5144358
>tfw dont have none of my mtfg friends numbers
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>>5144354
I honestly can't tell if people clock me.
I rarely get "weird" looks, nobody furrows their brows at me.
I mean...I was at an indoor halloween thing wearing an outfit that showed my shoulders and I just got compliments from some girls and two guys.
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>>5144370
>your family, by the virtue of being your family, is forced to put up with your crazy.

i mean you just gotta talk to any of the people here that were rejected and ostracised by their family to know that isn't true

>That poor hypothetical driver on the other hand is not your family and should not suffer for your wrong lifestyle choices.

i mean it's him or the conductors and passengers of an express train so better one than many right?

and if society would just institutionalise and sedate trannies that can't reasonably treat their dyshproia i wouldn't have to do anything like this
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>>5144373
I don't understand what kind of reaction you expect after being clocked.
The cisquisition will not make you repent your tranny ways or be burned at a stake. People will not pelt you with rotten fruit. At most they'll roll their eyes.
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>tfw don't know if trans or just a boy who hates all his masculine features, voice and sometimes penis and wants to be a cis girl.
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>>5144371
international phone stuff is tricky
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>>5144383
>tell that to my counselor
>no you're definitely trans
t-thanks doc
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>>5144383
hey, self-loathing lurkers club
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>wake up
>wisdom teeth still hurting like fuck
just kill me
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>>5144368
>are you doing anything for halloween?
Nope, no plans. Probably gonna watch a bunch of horror films though.
Going to see Anathema on Sunday though.

I guess your working huh, you gonna dress up?
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>>5144376
>i mean you just gotta talk to any of the people here that were rejected and ostracised by their family to know that isn't true
After seeing just how infantile some people here are, I really can't blame them. Like you right now. It's always someone else's fault for your inability to function even at the the most basic level.
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>>5144393
>still having wisdom teeth
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>>5144393
At your age wisdom teeth warrant a trip to the dentist.
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>>5144391
>tfw meeting my counselor for the firs time tomorrow
Still not sure tho tbqh
I think it might be the second
>>5144392
I own this club.
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>>5144397
well there's nothing i can do to change the past!!!!

>>5144398
i dont have dental insurance lols
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>>5144396
>It's always someone else's fault for your inability to function even at the the most basic level.

no, it's entirely on me, i don't think i blamed anyone else (apart from suggesting i should be institutionalised). i fully own up to the fact that i'm a pathetic fuckup who screwed his own life up by being a lazy gay nerd shit
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>Tfw bouncing back between crushing dysphoria one day and feeling like I'd do fine as a qt boy the next
>somtetimes, it flipflops back and forth within the same day
Brain
you've gotta stop doing this to me
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>>5144401

there is no second. boys don't think/feel that
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>>5144406
>tfw would be fine being a qt boy if I was feminine enough to just put on other clothes and pass as female
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>>5144384
yeah I know :(
still its weird because like I want to txt my mtfg friends and stuff but I'm on a different continent and its dumb
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>>5144408
How do you know?
I'm sure a bunch of them do.
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>>5144413
i think if u have an iphone you can do it for frees, i've done that with english ppls before
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>>5144403
1. Have or get insurance
2. Go to dentist
3. ???????
4. PROFIT
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>>5144413
You can use viber to make free calls/texts.
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>>5144415
>I'm sure a bunch of them do.

yeah, they're called repressing trannies
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>>5144383
Hey you're me
Although I only feel that way like 60% of the time, and rest I'm fairly indifferent because my male features aren't that prominent
The only reason I'm considering transitioning is because I fear that if I end up aging and becoming more masculine I'll kill myself
if I could look like this forever I think I'd be fine
I feel like I'd be cool with looking like pic related, being a feminine dude (obviously fiction isn't reality but I just don't want to dig through images of dudes right now to find a good example)
http://i.imgur.com/XcKLDLV.jpg
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>>5144406
This pain. I know it well.
>Not really feeling any dysphoria
>Catch a glimpse of myself in the mirror and see fem features and what could be
>Suddenly fighting off urge to cry
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>>5144412
Being a "boy" who passes as a girl is awkward as fuck trust me
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>>5144417
there's no way for me to get dental insurance right now
luckily my regular insurance covers operations, which wisdom teeth extraction is, and so they'll cover the actual removal to some degree.

what im gonna do is go to columbia, which charges $92 for dental checkups for uninsured people, and get the insurance codes for the wisdom teeth removal, then i'll find out how much i'll be looking at spending and THEN my parents will help me pay for it and i'll get it done.

it's retarded that i dont have dental, i wasn't aware of this until i checked about it with my mom the other day when i was gonna make an appointment and she was like "oh yeah no the obamacare thing doesnt apply to it so the coverage doesnt extend to u"
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>>5144404
This begs the question - why not try to improve? Work on not being a lazy, gay, nerd shit. Of all those only lazy and maybe gay are holding you back.

>>5144403
Oh I forgot about that particular US custom.
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>>5143674
Is it weird that while I identify as female I would never transition unless I was with someone who wanted me to?
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>>5144424
I think awkward is probably an acceptable tradeoff for some people here.
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>>5144416
oh yeh I've got that enabled

>>5144418
w-whats a viber
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>>5144426
That sounds awful.
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>>5144426
>flying to another country for a checkup
Is healthcare really that bad in the states?
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>>5144419
No like actual cis boys, like me.
>>5144420
I really hate my voice a lot and get sad when people call me a guy but I think I would be fine with that for a while.
>>5144424
>implying ill ever be anything else

It's very unrealistic but if I was feminine enough to just change clothes and pass I would stay girl mode 90% of the time anyway.
;_;
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>>5144435
Unfortunately. And Canada wont let us have any of theirs.
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>>5144432
whatsapp is how my friend who lives in germany keeps in touch with americans

>>5144429
>Oh I forgot about that particular US custom.
yeah its fucking awesoooooooome

>>5144435
oh jormo
columbia is a university in nyc
>>
>>5144424

if only there was some kind of way you could get rid of that "boy" bit instead of hanging off it for shitpost purposes
>>
>>5144432
>viber
A program to make free calls/texts
www.viber.com/en/
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>>5144435
The country's Colombia.
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>>5144437
>No like actual cis boys, like me.

like i said, repressed trannies
>>
>There is a trans woman and her husband here, I was informed
I hope she isn't like 22, super pretty and feminine, with a great strong husband...
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>>5144434
thanks
it is
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>>5144440
CAPITALISM HO!
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>>5144450
I'm not repressed, I even take hrt!

Just think I might not be trans.
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>>5144451
It's probably a fetishistic 40-something with an ugly, pudgy "husband" who is into swinging if it makes you feel better.
>>
mtfg I'm bored and have nothing to do .__.
>>
>>5144424
I mean, you chose this
>>
>>5144460

there's also one with an "i want to mother a child and don't want to go on T" "ftm" "husband"
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>>5144460
Would make me feel better, yes...
>>
So the theme of this thread is now repression, right?
>want to be a girl
>terrified of being a "tranny"
>alcoholism the most appealing option
>can only afford to drink a few days a week
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>>5144470
Or you could just commit suicide
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>>5144440
O-ohh yeh I knew that >_>

>>5144442
What would I post about then?
>tfw remembering the first time I tried to girlmode
Never again

>>5144465
Well I had a nice plan to finish uni and get ffs before going full time, nobody told me I'd get D cups in 4 months
>>
hoorayyyyy new south park episodes
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>>5144466
I forgot about those. Those are the worst. There is a fine line between dysphoria and living your sexual fantasy 24/7 and boy have they crossed it.

>>5144467
Just remember that she is just as cripplingly insecure as you are and that most likely her husband is some degenerate chaser.
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>>5144472
>>
>>5144465

no see it's better to just never actually further your transition socially so you can just come and shitpost about how terrible it is looking like a girl
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>>5144472
Alcoholism is my family's traditional method of slow suicide. I should be gone by my mid 40s.
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>>5144477
I thought about it but the planning of suicide is just too much.
Got to think about the time to do it on and how to do it
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>>5144477
>>
Those of you on hormones, how old were you when you started?
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>>5144488
I started right before my 20th birthday

Eternal hondom
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>>5144464
Make some music fam
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>>5144488
just after my 18th birthday on estrogen
6 months prior for spiro
>>
Gah, I got an exam soon ;-;
>>5144493
I'm not musical tho ._.
>>
>>5144488
A month or so after turning 20.
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>>5144488
20 !
Second puberty HELL!
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>>5144497
You don't need to be musical to make music, just make abstract sound and call it ambient noise. :^)
>>
uhhhhhh anne is the best i love her soooooo much
>>5144477
>>5144483
why is this funny to me?
also those things dont work very well irl
>>5144488
22
>>
>>5144488
when I was 17 years old
>>
>>5144488
22 and a halfish
>>
>>5144488
22
>>
>>5144488
>age meme
>>
>>5144488
I'm 20 and a half and it'll be months before i can get any, so. Fuck. I wish I hadn't lied to myself when I was younger. I thought I was too old when I was 18, I thought I could make it like this.
>>
>tfw don't know if trans or self hating boy
>tfw not been feeling very dysphoric lately
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>>5144504
>also those things dont work very well irl
hanging works well it just takes a while
>>
>>5144515
Same, but I think I was still 17 then.

>I still have an adams apple and a bit of facial hair
>I'm not gonna be some disgusting man in a dress
>Better just get away from everyone and die in peace
Turns out, I was stupid.
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>>5144516
iktf ;-;
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>tfw cooking dinner
>tfw no qt bf to cook for and he tells me its nice or something

;~;

cooking for yourself is lonely
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im sad about life, help
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>>5144529
hi whats wrong?
>>
>>5144529
Me too.
I'm a bit fat, I need to exercise so I stop being fat. But body is a bit shit anyway...

And other things, like basically wasted my whole life.
>>
>tfw doubting me being trans because don't feel awful about my face lately
Did I win over gender dysphoria?
I think i'm finally free and cis again.
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>>5144504
>>5144509
>>5144510
>be 22 and haven't started yet (but hopefully will soon)
>tfw seeing that I'm about the same age as you three were when you started
I dunno what any of you actually look like, but I feel like slightly less of a nasty old hon now.
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>>5144488
I started just before I turned 19

it was too late
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>>5144515
Man, I didn't even lie to myself, I full well knew I wanted to transition at 13 when I found out it was possible. I even wrote a coming out letter at 15 but never gave it to me mum. Fucking anxiety. Though I came out at 18 anyway, my mum wasn't supportive until I started transition myself and went full time.

Though at the most even if she was accepting and i came out at 13 or 15 i would've probably only got hrt like at 18 anyway because of how it is in this country.
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>non transition because fear
>debated it for long enough i'm pretty certain i don't want to change my mind
>subsequently afraid to let anyone in
>don't want a relationship
>don't even want to try
>don't want sex
>don't want anyone to know
>sorta want someone to do stupid little things with and cuddle
>can't because i gotta push people away

The ride never ends
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>>5144541
Ehhh
Honestly I'm kind of ugly , but I look feminine I guess
22 is fine don't sweat it
>>5144529
Talk to me sis
Or text us
I think I'm about to knock out
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>>5144536
Grattis mejt! You have won, time to hit the gym and get jacked, grow a beard, knock back some beers and have sex with girls.
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>>5144556
Or try to for a week before you cut up your hands punching a mirror at the sight of your stupid boy face and pass out on the bathroom floor stinking of vodka.
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How do you deal with this shit in between phase where you don't look like a guy or a girl? I've been on hormones for around fifteen months, starting at nineteen, and I plan on doing guy mode until I can afford FFS/VFS/whatever. Basically until I can pass as a woman without having people suspect that I'm trans.

Other trannies, friends, and my therapist have told me that I could pass if I stopped wearing guy clothes but I just don't see it at all.

Having people know I'm trans scares the crap out of me, and it's really inhibiting my social/academic/fitness life. I go to the gym at <6 AM because I'm scared that people will see me and think "oh look a tranny let's laugh at it". I haven't been to a university lecture all semester. I do my entire course from my computer and only show up if there's an exam or an assignment to hand in. I've basically become a hermit.

Fuck, how do I stop being such a little bitch.
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>>5144527
iktf... one day I might get a boyfriend who is okay with me being an ugly hon and then I'll cook for him and everything will be okay except he will break up with me like a few days later and I'll experience my first heartbreak and I'll be inconsolable and never get another boyfriend ever

>>5144529
I'm about to go to bed sad because like I'm ten years older than nearly everyone here
but like, take a shower and press your boobs on the glass to make circles... its fun and cheered me up today
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>>5144556
No way, I would never want to be masculine or use my penis.
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yo hey how do you know if people think you're not passing or if you are passing or what ?

like...do I really need to care about this?
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>>5144561
Halloween's coming up. Dress up as a female character, do your makeup, and see how it goes. If anyone notices, hey, it's halloween.

Post a pic, this ain't no hugbox.
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>>5144569
If you are capable of not caring about what other people think, then that's a good thing.
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>tfw no breasts
>tfw benis
>tfw small butt
>tfw broadish shoulders
>tfw gross stomach
>tfw small hips

;_; there isn't any hope for me
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so I'm starting to actually get breast growth, like I looked in the mirror and they were pretty noticeably small breasts

which is weird cause it happens so slowly that I feel like nothing has changed
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>>5144561
I'm the same but at about 8 months hrt, it's been getting harder to hide the changes to my body but since I wear a hat all the time and I'm 5ft8 people aren't usually able to tell

My problem is my GIC wants me to go full time before my next meeting in January and I'm not sure if I'll be able to do that or not, I'm really self conscious in boymode so I can't imagine how it'll be. I can't afford to miss lectures either since they check attendance
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>>5144582

Yeah, my hair is getting pretty long and when I don't have a hat or a hoodie on I look super weird. It's also summer here in Australia and I basically have to wear layers in 30+ heat to stop my boobs from showing. I think I'm starting to get neck pains from having to hunch over constantly to stop them from being silhouetted. Life is crap.
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>>5144582

Also:

>My problem is my GIC wants me to go full time before my next meeting in January

That sounds incredibly pushy and awful. Can't you tell them to fuck off?
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How common is it for the penis to stop working completely? As in no erections, nothing happening down below whatsoever?

I'm pre hrt, and a little bit anxious about that. I know you are guaranteed infertile after 6~ months, but what typically happens besides that? How do different drugs and dosages affect how fast the penis loses function and what function is lost? Are there any other factors?

Bonus question, how did your feelings about your penis change after starting hrt?
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>>5144605
I dont give a shit about my dick I just want it gone already. I haven't cum or even touched myself in like 6 months.
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>>5144599
What part of upside down land do you live in? I'm nearish to cambelltown, and we've only had one or two hot days a week, and nothing too bad.
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>>5144606
I hope you're at least getting or trying to get erections so the tissue doesn't atrophy. Like you don't have to touch it just let it become erect. You still want the most amount of tissue for surgery, dysphoria sucks but so does a shallow vag
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>>5144603
I don't know when I went there they were super nice, told me they thought that I had gid and would be fine prescribing me official hormones provided I was full time when I came back for my next appointment. I find it really difficult to say no so just agreed with it, the uk system is weird as well you've got to be diagnosed by two different people with long wait times in between

Also I thought I had it bad last summer in the uk I can't imagine how it must be in Australia
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>tfw cis friend talks about periods with you
thanks I love being reminded I'm reproductively defunct sooooo much
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>>5144618
Did she tell how awful they'd be and how you're so lucky?
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>>5144621
Lucky enough to be born a man, lol!
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>>5144529
Whenever you are sad just think of all the fun people are having without you.
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>>5144605
didn't work pre-HRT, doesn't work on HRT. made me vomit when I saw it in shower before, now just makes me nauseas, usually hold down barfing which used to be a pain in the ass
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>>5144625
Hey its honestly a perk if you ask me. Not everything has to be so bad all of the time.
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how long can I sit in a Starbucks until it starts to get a little awkward
I need to kill time until lunch
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>>5144639
At least you get to have a male brain that way, even if you look like a girl
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Do your best for me today ladies.

>>5144488
25

>>5144647
I worked at a coffee shop and it was normal for people to literally stay from 8 am to 5 pm. Stay as long as you want they won't care or say anything.
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>>5144647
Start by taking belfies
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>>5144650
Laddies*
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>>5144561
woman the fuck up and go full time, 15 months on HRT and not full time. what you need to pass and see yourself as a girl (Assuming you really think you're a girl) is to just have practice and experience living as who you are.

Hormones in guy mode will never make you look like a girl. You don't have to do make up just get some girl jeans and a northface and a bra and get your hair styled and walk outside and observe all the fucks nobody gives. they just going to think you look like a girl. Maybe you're not the hottest sorority girl level chick, but neither are most cis girls.

And if your voice is good, once you talk to them, they'll be too much of a pansy to question you, cause if they're wrong it would be the most awkward thing. If someone says something act as if they're wrong. like, "what the fuck, did you just call me a man, what the fuck is wrong with you"
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today was not the best day to wear a dress but meh

>>5144650
I used to spend all day in starbucks, but that was in the big city, where the dynamic is a little different I think, than this suburban location.
I'm sure I'm overthinking it.

>>5144652
a wha
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>>5144657
You are such a square
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>>5144648
That seems pretty irrelevant to my point. Yeah being trans sucks and "you're never a 'real' girl" but I can live with not buying a tampons/having blood come out my vag for a week every month. You sound stupid but I expect nothing less in this shithole.
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>>5144658
no I'm not I'm hip as heck I've got coffee and thick rimmed glasses

>>5144660
i mean, tbh, i kinda wish i could have periods, but at the same time I totally agree that not having them isn't exactly the worst thing in the world
i just don't like being perceived as different from the average girl, whether by myself or others
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>>5144663
But you get to pee while standing.
That's got to count for something.
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>>5144660
I'm sorry I shat in your safe space ;)
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>>5144667
I pee sitting down, actually
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>>5144561
There is no magical point where people will think you're a girl 100% of the time especially if you try to cling to boymode.
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>>5144672
One of the greatest things ever and you do not partake of it. You probably wipe your dick with a tissue instead of shaking it around gloriously.
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>>5144656
>>5144676
this is sage wisdom btw
more people need to realize this
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>>5144669
>meme response

You didn't. I'm not offended, you just sound like a low caliber retard.
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>>5144108
/k/ hetero-bro here, was passing by and this post reminded me why wanting a trans girl is prolly in my best interest. Keep on keepin on.
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>>5144669
>>5144658
>>5144652
>>5144655
>>5144648

I'm so flattered that, after all these years, I actually have my own special retarded troll <3
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>>5144677
it's so much more comfortable to sit down
enjoy accidentally forgetting to sit when you're in a public restroom
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>>5144685
The only thing that's low caliber here are your chances at having a period like a real woman ^.^
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>>5144677
anon, that's gross. shame.
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>>5144688
One day I will rape you like a repressed indian teenager
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>>5144688
>being a namefag
u asked for it
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>>5144693
You do realize some women dont get periods.
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>>5144108
Get a CZ75 if you can afford it, get a CZ82 if you can't.
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>>5144700
I like things in my butt
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>>5144705
wat
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>>5144702
Pretty sure those women are still genetically real women
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>>5144621
>>5144625

nah she was just angry that it had come early and was gross and its gonna ruin Halloween for her and then suddenly she stopped, realised what she was saying and said sorry and i kind of felt awkward

but yeah I talked about periods and period dysphoria with an older lady and she was pretty understanding of stuff because menopause, but some other girl butted into our conversation saying how lucky I was to not get periods. cheers fat chick with 3 kids, i'll be thankful for being sterile in the first place as well as not having ovaries, i love being born a freak that will never know any sort of biological parenthood.
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>>5144714
biological parenthood is overrated
it's almost 2016, adoption is the way to go
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>>5144714
>cheers fat chick with 3 kids, i'll be thankful for being sterile in the first place as well as not having ovaries, i love being born a freak that will never know any sort of biological parenthood.
This
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>>5144716
I'd adopt as long as it's not spice, rice or black guys.
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>>5144714
Yeah, my grandmother having been forced through menopause at 22 made her very understanding of how bad it could feel.

>>5144716
The main problem is adoption is expensive, and depending on where you are, not particularly reliable to get approved for, especially as a trans woman.
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Guise whats a quick and easy to kill myself?

>on 4chan all day, every day
>not real grill
>virgin
>tfw when no tendies
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>>5144731
I didn't say it was easier or cheaper than having a biological kid, but it's just better and more hip
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>>5144734
Jump
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>>5144731

my older lady friend had counseling when she started the menopause because it fucked with her idea of her own sense of womanhood, now shes just a pregnancy scare-free cougar so obv stuff worked out for her
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How does one tell an ex/friend that you want them out of your life without falling back on criticism and personal attacks?
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>>5144738
I was thinking id stand on my edge of my roof with a chloroform rag and just chloroform myself falling to my death into the family pool where ill drowned
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>>5144745
this is needlessly complex, in that, there are several obvious ways for this to fail
i don't think you really want to kill yourself deep down
so please don't
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>>5144744
Ruin their LSD trip the next time you hang out. You should know this one, elanna.
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>>5144745
I am such a pussy lol
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>>5144700
Yeah, true. I guess I just love the attention that only trolls can give me.

My identity is impossible to spoof, though. Rule number one of being me: Don't be an asshole.

>>5144744
I prefer the straightforward approach. Like, "Hey, we need to talk. I don't think this is healthy, etc. etc."
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>>5144754
I kinda just don't care if someone tries to imitate me
recently someone put on my name and said they were detransitioning, but like, it just doesn't matter to me if some people on 4chan get fed some obvious misinfo about me
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>>5144754
You sound like a self-important asshole though
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>>5144750
I do though

>so please dont
>having my face
>pic related
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>>5144754
Well, it's a self control thing, I've already started by saying that but I think it's going to be hard not to go there.

>>5144751
Lel, hey junkieanon
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>>5144745
FYI chloroform doesn't work like in the movies.
It's take at least twenty minutes for it to knock you out.

I'm planning on using helium, eventually.
>easy to get
>relatively cheap
>no mess
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>>5144756
Well, that's the spirit. Worrying about what people think of you is the cancer of the soul.

>>5144757
Well, you sound bitter. I hope you can get over that and learn to love yourself and others.
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>>5144760
hey I'm not your mom, do what you want with your life
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>>5144488
im 23 and havent started yet.
maybe next week i start with herbal bullshit and in some years with actual hormones.
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>>5144760
You're not exactly pretty. There are lots of cis girls who aren't exactly pretty. It's not nice, but it's not worth killing yourself over.

Have you tried a hairstyle with bangs? I think it'd frame your face better.
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>>5144650
caddy please post a selfie smiling to make my whole existence have a meaning
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I know you all can't really give a good estimate without pictures but I don't want to post any because I'm worried someone I'm not out to might see me, so I'll just ask, what would you say the average persons chance of passing is if they begin transition at 18?
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>>5144760
you look terrific hon!
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>>5144763
>helium
ugh, it's so limited, don't waste it just to end your life especially if you wait long
Use nitrogen, any welding shop has it and it works just as well. There are three shops within walking distance from me where I could get it, that's how easy it is.
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>>5144777
good, if you actually try and aren't afraid to go out in girlmode
there are a lot of uncomfortable parts to transitioning early on, but you have to do them regardless, don't put it off forever like a lot of people do

i did that myself, and I'm still kicking myself
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>>5144760
L2makeup
get bangs
WHAT ARE THOSE? (eyebrows)
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>>5144785
>WHAT ARE THOSE? (eyebrows)
fuck, I spit out my coffee
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>>5144787
sorry, I hope they don't kick you out ;~;
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>>5144784
I'm not sure if you're bullshitting me or not but just hearing someone say I've actually got some chance is really comforting, so thanks.
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hey, wuts up?

just got power back after the storm last night and my face is still all sensitive from electrolysis the other day
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>>5144794
>tfw no breasts
;~~;
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>>5144795
Yeah. It's a good chance.
You'll still be miserable, but marginally less so :)
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>>5144799
>marginally less so
Only for the first year or so, generally you get a lot less miserable after that.
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>>5144795
you'll be fine, just don't half ass it
i started at the tail end of 19 years old and I turned out absolutely fine
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>>5144796
hi
storm wasn't so bad here, we didn't lose power but it woke me up a few times in the night
i have a laser appointment this Saturday, on Halloween
this'll be our 4th session and I feel like it's not working that well so electro is likely in my future
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>>5144488
24. RIP in piece me
>all these kids saying they're too old for transitioning at 19-20

>>5144721
oh boy, feels ;-;

>>5144796
that was a bad storm haha. Glad to know you got power back. I ended up hanging with friends in South Portland ( >>5143753 ) so I didn't even know power was going out haha
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>>5144488
18
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>>5144488
19
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>>5144798
one big day Carol, one big day...
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>>5144488
27
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>>5144488
24 and i made it
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>>5144744
hide in your room until no one wants to hangout with you anymore
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Is it a good idea to go fulltime when you're "andro-maleish" so that you can get SRS and get rid of the cancer between your legs ?
----
I'm in Canada , so for SRS , you need to have been fulltime for 1 years to get SRS ... if I start fulltime after 6 months , It'll take another year and a half before I can actually get SRS but I really don't want to wait 2 + years >.<
---
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>>5144829
That seems like it would cause a lot of collateral damage. I just want this one person out of my life even if they are currently my best friend.
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>>5144831
go fulltime asap
this is objectively the best policy
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>>5144829
Sounds like I've been sending a lot of people the wrong message.

>>5144831
Some people who have been through RLE say it was the worst experience ever and some are supportive of it. No way to tell how it will go for you without trying.
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>>5144824
;~~; not soon enough
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>>5144837
Being forced into RLE is terrible but if you can do it of your own will then you should
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>>5144831
2 years will go by faster than you think. However going full-time as soon as you can is a good idea for more reasons than just SRS. It won't be pleasant but the sooner you get it over with the better.
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>>5144837
I think making people do it is kinda shitty, but letting people make the choice for themselves is fine.

>>5144831
If your goal is just to get SRS as soon as possible, then your considerations here are basically how safe it is to be obviously trans.
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at the risk of sounding really stupid how do they assess if you are actually fulltime or not? like if you needed a time period of being full time before SRS can't you just like.. say you are full time and live how you normally do and then just rock up to apointments in girlmode kinda thing? IDK but that is probably what I would do if I needed to.
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>>5144488
25, I started 7 weeks ago, things are going well
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>>5144839
i think required RLE is an incredibly stupid policy, especially when it's required before you can even GET hormones, but at the same time, I think that once people get HRT, they shouldn't put off going fulltime for very long
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>>5144844
The easiest things to look at are paper trails on things like name and ID changes. A psych or hrt issuing doctor backing you up might also help.
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>>5144831
Here's a big secret: unless your idea of boymode is full femboy, you will always be andro when you go full time because there's a ton of things you can't really do in real boymode.

Second secret: most people go ft in that kind of timespan and manage perfectly fine.

HRT will not give you a magical understanding of fashion, and it will not fix the social cues your voice has to take on to force it into a more masculine range.
>>5144488
19
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>>5144844
They'll ask your Psy , the school / workplace , probably people that you know ....

"The purpose of the RLE is to confirm that a given transgender person can function successfully as a member of said gender in society, as well as to confirm that they are sure they want to live as said gender for the rest of their life"
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>>5144844
You could do that, nobody is going to be checking up on you to see if you're doing your rle. However, I think it's sort of defeating the point of rle, and transition in general. If the end goal is to be perceived as female then it's very difficult to be able to do that without doing some sort of rle, you don't pick up social cues, voice and fashion while in boymode.
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Self med anon from a month ago. I haven't learned my lesson and am going back to the skittles.

I went way wrong with keeping drinking and probably eating stuff with potassium in (fuck you plums). What does mtfg eat for a balanced healthy diet?

>>5144397
>still having wisdom teeth
How do you even avoid them
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I won't have to do RLE before HRT, right?
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>>5144858
Depends on where you live , RLE is mainly for Surgery and other things.
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>>5144856
An uncle who's a farmer, half a bottle of vodka, and a pair of pliers.
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>>5144858
A 14 year old in the UK already out to family? You'd be an idiot not to be doing RLE as much as possible.
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>>5144860
In the UK
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>>5144844
mostly this I guess >>5144850
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>>5144854
>tfw my school has contradictory info and my government used to expect srs even for name changes until about 2010

>>5144844
Usually it's more or less your word, friends' word, and psych's/doctor's word.
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>>5144862
I get embarrassed and feel ugly :(
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>>5144867
Welcome to being trans. Get over it or accept that it's a giant obstacle to every part of your transition.
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>>5144867
welcome to being human
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>>5144812
yeah it was mostly wind but right around here there are a lot of old trees barely stubbornly standing that tend to finally come down in these sorts of storms
I was kinda waking and tossing and turning all night but I think it was more cus the storm was riling up our new kitten
I still haven't made any plans for halloween since I'm such a self-hating hermit and sure I'd fuck up anything anyway
I had like 5 laser sessions and they cleared away teh majority of my hair especially more on my face though there was still a scatting left on my lip and stuff and on my neck and my electrolysis person said that those hairs do seem to be more red, after trying both I prefer electrolysis in general

>>5144818
yeah the storm peaked around like 2 in the morning or something so we had power till bed and then woke up to it out but my partner called right away and they got it back pretty quickly,
congrats on the fun time!

>>5144834
y? that might be kinda relevant to how u should go about it
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>>5144869
Its hard though,I know that people will think I am weird ;~~;
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>tfw you psss irl but mtfg says you don't
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>>5144849
Yeah p much!!
It's good for like pushing forwards stuff like surgeries but also helps with like motivation and stuff
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>>5144882
Cool story Angie. Maybe people justifiably hate you and say things to try to hurt you. You probably shouldn't stick around a place like that.
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>>5144875
>scatting left
scattering left*
srry, I'm already kinda tipsy/drunk

>>5144882
iktf, butt-ugly yet passing masterrace!
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>>5144861
>there are people who actually do DIY dentistry
Getting wisdom teeth properly removed sounds horrible too what with all the jaw breaking
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>>5144863
in the uk, RLE is a requirement to get on hormones, often for up to a year. the private system is more like informed consent, they'll want a psych assessment and a blood test from your GP but generally you can get mones within a few weeks... for a price. or you can self med. self med for 6+ months and your clinic will step in and give you mones because after that point, some changes become permanent and you will fuck yourself up if you stop.

oh you're super young, all trans stuff for minors is handled by some children's hospital in London idk
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>>5144882
>tfw you pass irl but you don't think you pass yourself
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>>5144892
Good to see some orginality is still here in this part of the Internet
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>>5144882
>tfw you don't pass irl and fulltime seems like 5000 lightyears away
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>>5144899
>in the uk, RLE is a requirement to get on hormones, often for up to a year

FUCK I'm dead ,why?
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I guess for me I will wait a bit to see if hormones do anything tbh I'm just really nervous and shy to begin with & I am pretty meek so IDK.

I also need to fake my own death or something as so far as my parents are concerned
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>>5144899
Not at the clinics I'm aware of! Some clinics require RLE but I'm pretty sure most don't nowadays, certainly not pre-hrt
Private clinics definitely don't if you can afford them

>>5144910
Kit I rly hope stuff with your parents goes ok, it sounds scary but I think you'll manage it!!
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>>5144910
http://m.wikihow.com/Fake-Your-Own-Death
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>>5144875
>why?
Because it's not a healthy friendship. I still blame him and resent him for breaking up back several months ago, and increasingly think he's a selfish prick. He's in a rough patch right now. He'll use me for emotional support but ranks seeing and talking to me as a low priority when I need it. I'm starting to get tired of it and I'm picking fights with him with little provocation.
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>>5144875
yea we're probably not doing anything for Halloween either
we're going to my gfs office party today but I think that's gonna be it

i have a sneaking suspicion that someone there is gonna be wearing the Caitlyn Jenner costume, going off how my girlfriend describes her coworkers

>>5144885
also it takes practice
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>>5144875
ah ok yea I was asleep by then and I usually sleep like a rock haha
And yea! It was kinda funny cause my friend and I just talked in the front seat about getting our eyebrows and nails done and the two boys in the back were just like uhhhhhh but it was really fun <3
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>>5144488
Came out 26th birthday, rigorously practiced makeup and voice for 2 months and then immediately went full-time the day i started hormones.

Being an effeminate manlet with a background in singing helped.
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>>5144910
>I also need to fake my own death or something
I used to think that would be a good idea, but it would be really shit. Just move out, write a letter (say you won't take any phone calls) and hope they write back positively.

>>5144856
>self bump
Serially, what other people do for diets and healthy eating when medding?
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>>5144909
because we have a cruel archaic system with no significant laws passed since 2004. hell it wasn't until 2013 the Royal College of Psychologists or whatever advised the NHS to step in with self medding after a certain time, beforehand they'd either discharge you or force you go go cold turkey before getting blood baselines and starting from scratch, after the RLE requirement.

the uk is shit.

>>5144918
I thought it was all of them, pretty much.
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>>5144927
well that's something to maybe focus on, he just isn't healthy for you, you don't hate him or want to hurt him but you just can't be around him because it's bad for you, no one can fault you for taking care of yourself

>>5144929
sounds shitty, good luck!
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I'm off and not sure what to do today
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>>5144940
Did singing help significantly with voice? I find it really hard to get privacy for voice training, but might be able to get it for singing.
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>>5144918
thanks erin ;~;

>>5144941
idk i just don't want to be a dissapointment to them. i just have this real dread about them being like "accepting" but just hugely dissapointed on the inside IDK. i have like four other siblings so its not like they would be extremely upset imo ;~; (i mean they would ofc be sad and upset but they would get over it)
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>>5144958
Same rough background and afaict, yes, singing definitely helped a ton, because proper training in singing basically teaches you literally everything that voice work requires you to do.
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Hi mtfg. Hows things going?
>had nhs visit where they did fuck all
>presented today with group, went okay
>been cuddling daily with flatmate
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>>5144961
Disappointing someone is still way better than them being crippled with depression from thinking you're dead
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>>5144947
Afaik CHX doesn't do that? They aren't great but no RLE required for hrt

Also afaik it's technically possible to have the NHS fund a private clinic for you but you need to have SOME private sessions first so it still costs and it's a hassle getting the funding sorted cause it needs to go through your local council and UGH
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>>5144970
Not sure.
Bored really
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>tfw falling for a girl

my trutrans card turned to ash in my purse, when does my AGP card arrive?
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>>5144980
is she cute?
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>>5144973
really, CHX doesn't sound that bad. my trans guy friend got discharged the other week from CHX and they gave a satisfaction survey for him to do with question number 1 being 'How likely would you be to recommend NHS gender identity clinic services or Chring Cross to friends or family?'- he wrote 'where else are they fucking meant to go' on it. its a complete joke tbh
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>>5144973
Only people who want RLE is nottingham. Also they mysteriously seemed to have lost my fucking laser hair removal funding in the fucking system!!!!
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>>5144980
It'll materialize stuck to your forehead next time you go an entire day without dysphoria.
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>>5144984
>How likely would you be to recommend NHS gender identity clinic services or Chring Cross to friends or family?
>to friends or family
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>>5144984
Ahaha lmfao

>>5144985
Wait seriously?? I'd go kick up a storm at them, that's not ok at all
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>>5144985
shit that's my clinic, just as well i self med and will be 8 months mones and properly fulltime by the time my clinic appt comes around, heck i said i was andro fulltime since July when i got referred. fuck how terrifying. oh my god. panic.

>>5144982
...yes. very.

>>5144986
good luck i'm never getting it then
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>>5144970
>tfw no cuddles
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>>5144985
Well I was going to go to Nottingham but fuck that now. Can you self med 6 months and then hold them to it?
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>>5144996
They mostly can't really do anything about it, afaik.
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>>5144970
mm nm rn

how is that whole thing going with your flatmate? has either of you said anything or..?
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>>5144950
>you don't want to hurt him
The problem is that I kind of do, eye for an eye and all that, and I'm trying to think of how to not go there. I still harbor a lot of resentment towards him and think that he legitimately never cared that much about me even when we were dating.

I'll try to focus on putting it as a looking out for myself thing. Thanks for the advice.
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>>5144989
I have kicked up storms but it miraculously dissapears as well.

>>5144994
;-;

>>5144996
Avoid nottingham, and selfmedding/private they cant do shit about. I'm 9 months from private meds and they just said i should go fulltime if i want them to take it over. However that was when i was like 3 months hrt. So they still trip you into RLE/fulltime even on meds.

>>5145000
we not said anything, although he started to call me beautiful now
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If i buy a bad dragon toy, how likely am i to spiral into degeneracy? Am i going to regret buying it? Also how do i get a suction pad? Are the cumtubes worth it?
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>>5144976
10/10 photo. How does it 'ride'.
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>>5145012
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>>5145019
I was planning on getting a chance actually, interesting. Thanks for the help.
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>>5144996
its what I intend to do but I'll have RLE there too so what are they gonna do honestly, they can just take over
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>>5145012
I think that at this point, having an oversized dildo barely registers on the degeneracy-meter.
Go for it. In for a penny, in for a pound.
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>>5144958
Yeah tons. I had a near perfect voice after about 10 weeks with a teaching speech pathologist. Other anon touched on this. You build strength, range and control of resonance when singing/learning to sing, all of which applies to mtf voice training. It really helps as well to be using the new voice all the time.
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>tfw small feminine frame and only 5''8
>girly mannerisms
>long silky hair
>passing face
>voice of a truck driver makes all of the previous collapse the second I open my mouth

Fml.
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>>5145059
Hi Ricky.
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>>5145059
Work on your voice then, it's actually one of the few things you have some amount of control over.
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>>5145059
>tfw the only masculine thing about my body is my semi freakish height

Before i got tall i was mistaken for a girl all the fucking time.
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>>5145005
yeah either way that's maybe how you should present stuff, much more reasonable for most people if you're just trying to do what's best for you instead of being bitter and wanting to hurt people,
good luck! hope it all works out for you
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What do you all do to practice voice? I spend about 30 minutes in the car "practicing" by just talking to myself on the easy home from work. But I'm running out of things to say, and I feel like there's got to be a more efficient way to train different parts of it. Like a workout routine but for voice?
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>>5145105
i see people recommend this passage for this purpose
http://www.dialectsarchive.com/the-rainbow-passage
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>>5145105
Have conversations
Read aloud
Make phone calls
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>>5145108
Oh I think that's what they have people say on those yeson voice surgery before and after videos. That makes sense, thanks!
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>>5145115
ban normies tbh
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>>5145105
Pretty broad question with no short answer really. Look up vocal warmups for singers to start. Buy a kazoo (not even kidding) and alternate "ooo"s at a high pitch into it and then without it for resonance placement practice. Should feel vibrations around the nose. Theres a shit-ton of things you can do really.
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>>5145115
Nobody to talk with, and not a lot to read while driving unfortunately. I've already read every billboard on my commute a million times.

>>5145124
I would like to learn how to sing too so maybe that's not too bad of a place to start. And I'll look into that kazoo thing, it does sound like it would work pretty well.
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How do you people even find the courage to practise your voice on strangers?

I've been practically living as a mute for a while. Either I let my gf talk for me or I convey what I want with my hands.
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>>5145146
Oh Ricky.
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>>5145147
What?
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>>5145151
Nothing. You are just amusing.
Also check your mail already.
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>>5145131
Vocal Coach - Voice Singing Lessons [Complete mp3]
https://kat.cr/vocal-coach-voice-singing-lessons-complete-mp3-t5369319.html

Singing Voice Lessons - Learn to sing like a star
https://kat.cr/singing-voice-lessons-learn-to-sing-like-a-star-t1909400.html
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>>5145153
>Also check your mail already.
Okay.
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>>5145146
It seemed better to have a shit voice than a male voice when I wasn't being read as male any more.
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>>5145146
you know how you have like a "dog voice" or a "cat voice" for talking to animals?
my strategy is: "human voice"
i speak softly in tones that 11 years of research have shown to be calming and non-threatening as well as uninteresting
i have no idea how it passes as a girl voice, it's just how i reflexively speak when confronted with strangers, but i know it doesn't sound weird and it's higher than how i speak to friends
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>>5145146
Keep your eyes on the prize, blindly. Theyre just strangers who will likely never see you again. If you don't practice, you wont ever reach your goal. Strangers are really perfect for this anyway for above reason.
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>>5145161
>>5145162
>>5145164

Aren't you afraid of getting funny looks and possibly even worse shit happen to you though?
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Story time

>be me earlier today
>sitting outside waiting for class
>red haired college student walks by
>their camera is pointing right at me
>you can literally see her trying to get sneaky photo with fingers volume button
>holyshit
>am scared bc she probably thought i was a trans hon weirdo
>help
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>>5145193
>aren't you worried about funny looks?
Be serious, a few funny looks never hurt anyone.
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>>5145193
Not really. Why would it be worse than if I had a distinctly male voice and looked like a girl?
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>>5145193
you're gonna have to let go of that fear, bud
this is your life now
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Hey /mtfg/ nursing hangover #1 of this week, expecting another on Sunday. How's everyone else's week going?
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>>5145193
>funny looks
Who are you worried about? Medusa?

Fear is part of it all.
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>>5145193
humans don't like it when you look them directly in the eye
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>>5145201
they can hurt my feelings tho

>>5145204
my week has been pretty good but i will be working all weekend delivering hangovers
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>>5145194
shoulda shouted 'hey bitch why don't ya take a picture it'll last lo- never mind.'
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>>5145208

Some do.
Under certain circumstances.
They -really- like it.
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>>5145211
only if they're people
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>>5145204
i'll be nursing one on sunday myself, but possibly saturday instead

might try epilating my legs again before then, preferably while drunk
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>>5145213

Myna, sshh, I'm trying to be lewd.
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>>5145214
How will you fully savour and enjoy the pain if you're drunk?
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>>5145201
What about getting assaulted annd otherwise abused though?

>>5145202
Well that makes sense at least.

>>5145203
>now
if only
This has been my life a few years now.

>>5145206
Medusa was cis tho'

>>5145208
>>5145213
No offence but the way you phrase things sounds disassociative. Sociopathic even.
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>>5145215
oh
sorry
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>>5145118
Sorry I'm not a loser?
>>5145131
Make a friend and call them?
Having a conversation with yourself is not quite the same as talking to yourself especially if you pretend to be different people or something!! lol
You can also get a book on tape or something and then repeat what's being said?
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>>5145225
>in my 20s
>still lives with parents
>not a loser
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>>5145220
i'm a misanthropic shut in with aspergers
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>>5145220
That can, but I've actually only ever had that happen once. Funny looks is the more typical thing that happens.

>>5145209
Yeah but hurt feelings are temporary and sadly just a part of transitioning. Nobody said it was easy ;~;
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>>5145225
>Sorry I'm not a loser?
WOW
so if I'm not a normie I'm a loser now?

W O W
O
W

ban Juniper tbqh tbh
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>>5145209
Sometimes the looks are just attention, not necessarily people clocking you.

>>5145193
Yeah. At first you think every look in your general direction is a funny look. It gets easier.
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>>5145230
I was joking fam chillllllllllllll
>>5145227
I know, rite??? Just kill me now tbqh
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>>5145235
>I was joking fam chillllllllllllll
so was I... <3
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>tfw not asian
http://www.kitakubu.co/2015/10/welcome-to-cross-dress-high-school/
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>>5145219
it's the only way i'll get to experience it in the first place, if i'm sober i'll succumb to the logic of being afraid of my epilator
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>>5145229
What happened to you if you don't mind me asking?

I've had people call me faggot and other hurtful things a lot and I've been beaten once. I don't really want to risk going through those again ever since I saw what happened to that anonette who had the same happen to her and is now forced to live her life in a wheelchair.
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>tfw you have to make dinner soon but keep eating sweets
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guys I'm out of things to do and I still have like 2 hours to kill, help me
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>>5145209
Heyya Kit :3 Get those tipss~ :D Hope the weekend isn't too crazy for you though.

>>5145214
I just went out in pants and a shirt cause I was going from Phantom of the Opera to a halloween costume club party thing. Turned out to be a work event for the girlfriend of my new friend from the pot shop. Had like, a beer before the show, and like 10 drinks at the club, was fun, and actually all free!

Hope your weekend goes awesome too :3
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>>5145243
I was verbally harassed, threatened and got into a fight with someone on a crowded bus. Or rather I tried to fight but both myself and the person harassing me were held back by onlookers.

The worst I've had other than that is being called a faggot. All things considered I guess I've been pretty lucky considering what province I live in. Fear is your enemy though, the only way things get better is if you grit your teeth and try to bear the worst of it.
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>>5145259
>tfw you'll never see elanna put up her dukes
>tfw she'll never beat me up
>jdimsa
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>>5145259
Did this happen pre-HRT or after? I can't wrap my head around why this would happen to you unless it happened because of your voice. I mean no one can tell you aren't cis by now. Your face passes, you have a fem body type and you've had SRS.
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I can't afford estrogen and spiro until my second paycheck. Would it be a good idea to go two weeks on spiro without estrogen or should I just wait until I can get both at the same time?
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>>5145278
>and you've had SRS
there is no reason for that to be on the list when talking about an incident on a bus
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>>5145278
This was several years ago after about a year on HRT and 10 months fulltime. My voice didn't pass and is what caused it. Oddly enough I had never had such a thing happen until then, I just got lucky until then I guess.

>>5145267
Tbh I'm not a violent person ;~; I got goaded into it, the person was being pretty nasty.
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>>5145279
Being on just spiro is good if that's a reasonable option. A huge amount of the effects of HRT are in stopping T.
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>>5145235
hey I know a transgirl named Juniper, can I just ask do you live in New England?
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>>5145280
>not making your girlbulge extremely visible on the bus
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>>5145210
>tfw am now going to be interwebz hon star
>PLS KILL MEE
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>>5145259
>>5145259
omg elanna that is so horrible ;~;
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>>5145283
>My voice didn't pass and is what caused it.
Damn, I gotta really get on this voice training stuff.
I wasn't trying to make light of the situation btw, I just think you'd look super qt playfighting and then we'd end up cuddling.
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>>5145290
bulges are gross ;~~;
>>5145292
wat
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>>5145292
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Ohaiyo mtfg! ^-^b
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>>5145280
Well you never know...

>>5145283
You've worked on your voice a lot since then right?
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>>5145225
I guess I do practice when I Skype with my bf so I suppose I do get a little bit of conversation skills there. I was more looking for a way to practice when I'm on my own in the car. But audiobooks sound like a good idea.
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>tfw you are accused of raping moko
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>>5145257
dang that sounds pretty fun, glad you had a good time

my weekend won't be as adventurous but it should still be fun i think... there's no way i'm going out for halloween this year so i'll just get drunk and play videogames and talk to people
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>>5145299
Hi Rawr
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>>5145302
I've had professional voice therapy since then, I wish I had practised more though. My voice passes but it's deep and can be a bit flakey on the phone.

>>5145290
I started tucking pretty early on.

>>5145295
Lol, not likely, I'm sort of one of those people that's calm until the point of snapping and then gets scary when they snap. Although who knows, maybe now it would be cute because I doubt I could put enough force into a punch to hurt >.>
But let's play fight and cuddle tbh ^^

>>5145294
It was, but it's in the past, I havn't had anything like that happen since thankfully.
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>>5145307
wtf is ur problem
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>>5145312
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>>5145309
>drunk gaming

This sounds like a magical weekend tbh
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>>5145312
It does look like them haha
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>>5145321
That sounds like the most boring waste of time ever.
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>>5145314
Meh, when ur 6 feet tall punches pretty much hurt regardless
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>>5145316
What is your problem
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>>5145239
>tfw 1% of asians that are tall and masculine from a young age
>tfw entire life, all other asians compliments you for being tall and handsome
>tfw HRT does nothing
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>>5145307
lmao
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>>5145327
ur mean ;-;
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>>5145333
Ikr?
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>>5145337
wtf would you even say that though please don't
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>>5145324
B-but I'm not 6 feet tall ;~;
O-only 5'10", j-just a baby r-right?

>>5145301
Ohaiou gozaimashita!
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>>5145345
Trip on carol
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>>5145323
Hey now don't knock it till you try it sis. Its hella fun esp with friends! c:

>>5145346
>tfw were the same height

perfect match for lewd cuddling ^_~ but hru love?
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>>5145324
>>5145346
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>>5145346
>tfw somewhere between 5"2 and 5"6

:D
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>>5145353
I don't even know who Carol is
get some chill, no one accused you of rape, anon
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>>5145361
>I don't even know who Carol is

;~;
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>tfw nobody to tie you up and epilate you and bully you

>>5145321
magical and full of terrible ingame decision making
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>>5145362
I don't believe we've ever really talked that much?? unless your name is just escaping me, which is totally possible knowing me
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>>5145360
>tfw actually like being tall because it means I can reach tall things
5'10" doesn't really hurt passing that much thankfully.

>>5145358
L-lewd o////o;;
I'm actually kind of shitty feeling rn, today I've decided to cut my ex/best friend out of my life for various reasons. It has to happen but I feel awful about it.

>>5145359
Why the sads kit? ;~;
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Death can finally snuggle me in his arms tonight
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>>5145371
If you need any comforting or hugs later, let me know.
Like, just hop on, and bug me. I won't mind.

Because that's incredibly sad, and if you're in pain, it'll be sadder.
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>>5145364
That's approaching kayla-tier feminization fantasies.
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rate my butt out of ten
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>>5145387
don't post pictures I don't want to get v&
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>>5145387
No one cares
Underage ban
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>>5145387
Cardiobunny/10
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>>5145381
it's just an avenue for pain

it's more efficient than epilating and being bullied at separate times
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>>5145371
>today I've decided to cut my ex/best friend out of my life for various reasons
I had to do this recently, oh well. I kind of feel better for it.
>>
Life isn't worth living
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>>5145371
>today I've decided to cut my ex/best friend out of my life
It's been three years since I ditched mine and sometimes I still think of him but realize I'm still better off without him. It hurts at first then you just keep thinking about the shit they did and it hurts less.
>>5145407
yer right
*bang*
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>>5145364
Terrible decisions are the best fun tho esp in dota cuz you don't care about ur raging team8s

>>5145371
Well its *you* so lewd is gud : 3 but seriously that sucks babe my condolences, but part of life is meeting and losing ppl. I'm not at all trying to downplay ur feels bb, but try to remember the good times ya'll had and don't dwell on the painful parting ya know? Nothing productive is gunna come from being stuck on it. *hugs* cheer up Missy or I'm gonna ride over moose land and chug maple syrup while discussing hockey wif yew! ^w^
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ima go to the beach this weekend and get rid of my ugly tan lines
>>
Who is the most innocent here?
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>>5145380
Thanks. Idk what's going to happen at this point but I know I'm going to feel pretty shit after doing it. I'll pop on later if I'm feeling really down though..

>>5145401
I'm not sure how I feel about it, and I'm not entirely sure if it will make anything better. How did it go for you and was it really shitty to start?

>>5145413
>think about the shit they did and it hurts less
But the thing is apart from breaking my heart earlier this year, and basically using me as emotional support for the past few months, they havn't done a lot that's directly hurtful. They're just selfish and neglectful. Not sure if overreacting but I'm getting pretty tired of feeling used..

>>5145414
Pls come to maple syrup land and chug whiskey with me ;~; it would make things easier
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>>5145427
I'll show ya how we get down burgerclap country girl style ! (drunk video gaming and making shitty puns all night rofl)
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>>5145426
tie between erin and kit

>>5145414
yup it's the perfect excuse for meme builds and yolo plays
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>>5145426
it's a three-way between bexe, erin, and kit tbh
>>
I need help with writing my final thoughts.
Living this life is difficult and I want to know the best way to express that before my light flickers out
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Who a burrito whore here?
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>>5145451
>erin
erin's a lewd tbh :^)
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>>5145454
well... I AM Mexican :D
>tfw I'll never be Caddy's burrito
>tfw I'll never be inside her
>jdimsa
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>>5145439
Yess, that sounds like my jam tbh ;~;
Get ur ass up here
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>>5145371
..being 6 ft ;~;
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>>5145452
fill it with memes
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>>5145439
Shit wrong pic x.x meant this one D:

>>5145445
>not memebuilding on memechamps always

Get out you casual
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>>5145457
What's jdimsa?
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>>5145467
just die in my sleep already
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>>5145462
My parents don't understand memes
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>>5145464
>champs
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>>5145461
Look at the bright side, as far as factors that affect passing go, height is less important than you think. Besides, being tall is awesome and it tends to make shorter cisgirls jelly.
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>>5145472
no wonder you're committing suicide
that must be hard to live with
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>>5145454
>ywn eat caddy like a burrito after slapping her around for a bit

(credit for this Pepe goes to the original artist©)
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>>5145470
But if you die your chances of being my burrito go from slim to absolute zero. Dont let your dreams be memes
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>>5145454
that looks like taco bell caddy. smh
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>>5145479
:(
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>>5145475
Lel b8ed hook line and sinker :^) why are weebs so easy to trick??
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>>5145484
You know me so well

>>5145486
LOL it is! Don't judge me! How can you even recognize it just by looking?
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>>5145485
Nah, I'll just be reincarnated into the best burrito you will ever have. You'll think back on that burrito and wonder if it was actually me.
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>ask for help
>get nothing
Mtfg in a nutshell
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>>5145497
Kindred spirits and all that plus we're f-friends right? That's what friends do!
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My lunch is already over. You all behave yourselves

>>5145499
I'll be waiting for you burrito anon
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>>5145496
i am outraged tbh how could you do this to me
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>>5145387
Go away you underage little spaz.
You should be out having fun not posting on a tranny board.
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>>5145452
>>5145504
I was afk, what's wrong fam? It's one of the few things you can never undo or change yo, but like, other stuff does change with time and effort and that stuff =\
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>>5145497
haha idk it just looks like their crispy burritos and the brown on it is the way they fry them up
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>>5145427
>How did it go for you and was it really shitty to start?
Yeah it was really shitty, they were pretty much the last friend I had left and having that ruined along with all my other problems it put me the closest I've been to suicide.
They really hurt me though, I moved in with them and they abused the shit out of me and now I'm just disgusted and regret ever doing it.
Suffice to say, it wasn't hard at all for me to cut them out of my life.
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>>5145513
I want to finally die.
everything is this life has been meaningless.
No one wants a hollow shell around them. Being trans is the worst thing possible and I can't go on feeling this way.
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>>5145510
Bc its fun to bully u and that's how I show my affection ^ ^ (plus its so easy)
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>>5145387

Arent you like 14
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>>5145515
>they were pretty much the last friend I had left
I wish I didn't know that feel. That's terrible though and I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm glad that you got out of that situation though, even if it was terrible to start.
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>>5145526
Well everyone is a hollow shell till they fill that with something really. It's definitely shitty being in this situation but like, it's something you can get past and become a functioning person, its just the in between time is the worst really. At least that's what I keep telling myself.
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>>5145452
Why a rare pepe of course
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>>5145553
There's nothing in there to fill.
It's all meaning less when you're a hon.

>>5145554
My parents don't understand memes
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>>5145554
This one is fairly rare.
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>>5145562
being a hon is a lifestyle choice tbh
so if you don't want to be a hon...just don't
try hard, persevere, and don't act like a creepy caricature of femininity and you're already not a hon
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>>5145371
>>5145413
>>5145427
>>5145544


ugh all these sad stories i want to hug all you girls rn ! ;~;
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>>5145562
It's what >>5145567 said honestly. I don't pass but I still go out and have fun and talk to guys/hang out with the girls like, they don't really give a fuck as much as you'd think, it's a huge thing in our heads but like, to a lot of people it's just oh okay then.
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>>5145567
Try being a man in a dress and see if you like it
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>>5145582
yeah like, I'm not delusional, I know I'm not perfect. i have a huge adams apple, and my voice suuuucks, but after a certain point you just kinda have to live your life and stop giving a shit, and then you realize most people can't tell and don't give a shit either anyway
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>>5145588
i don't pass perfectly, and I'm sitting here in a dress right now, if that's what you mean
its just not that big of a deal
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>>5145589
Pretty much. Those are my main two things holding me back it feels like, and I need to gain some weight, but again its about finding what you can improve and doing that. I wish I knew more I could be doing though as like, often feels like I'm not actively doing enough since those come down to surgery/timeandpractice/and time and eating.
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>>5145591
You either pass flawlessly or bust
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>>5145621
that's not how this works
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>>5145577
Tbh I could use a hug right now kit ;~;
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>>5145621
What do you think everyone goes around mentally scrutinizing the facial features of people they meet to figure out their gender? People are super unobservant, and 100% passing isn't even needed to get cute guys so w/e.
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>>5145636
Then you don't transition
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>>5145655
I transitioned
I pass (not flawlessly)
sry thats real life sometimes
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>>5145621
>>5145655
ban anons
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>>5145663
Ban memes
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>mfw people IRL think I'm okay
>mfw actually I just can barely ever cry no matter how I feel, because aspergers
>mfw I'm not okay

>>5144377
I think you'll find that depends HEAVILY on where you live. You can still easily get beaten up or murdered for being trans in a lot of cities, just ask Kayla.

>>5144434
>american healthcare
not even once tbqh fam
though informed consent sounds cool, I'll give them that

>>5144457
I'm out to most of my friends. I've asked them about this stuff a bit.

No, pretty much all guys in my experience do NOT think about these things, even those with bipolar disorder and stuff, and the couple of said they do think about it sometimes have since mentioned having gender issues. Weirdly though, I'd say a good quarter of girls I've talked about it to experience some level of dysphoria about having boobs and being called female, it's pretty weird actually.

>>5144488
20, almost 21
[spoiler]I've known since I was 14[/spoiler]

>>5144536
don't be booger

>>5144474
>Well I had a nice plan to finish uni and get ffs before going full time, nobody told me I'd get D cups in 4 months
Oh look, it's "My Worst Trans Fear" #1 again, cool

>tfw don't want to be a man
>tfw don't want to be a man with tits

>>5144599
>live in one of the hottest parts of the UK
>no idea how I'm going to deal with next summer w/o my parents noticing I've got tits
>already have to hunch over to hide the fact I have such huge moobs as it is (muscle disorder again)

>>5144683
the first one isn't true though, I get kids screaming 'tranny freak' and stuff at me in the street sometimes while all adults around ignore it, and that's in a progressive city
Luckily I'm pretty thick-skinned to verbal insults after years of school bullying, more worried about getting strangled or hit in the face with a hockey stick again, but for some other folks on here that could really fuck them up for a long time
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>>5145671
>ban love and life
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>>5145677
>just ask Kayla
You sound more and more retarded by the day.
At this point, anything that Kayla posts about happening to her is either an outright lie or something that loony instigated.
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>>5145511
but i am trans and have nothing to do
>>5145393
eh?
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>>5145679
Ban people who watch anime
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pls give me something to do
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>>5145679
Why are you like that bexy?
Despite you being so infantile, unable to function in society and watching anime at your age anon still likes you.
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Ban banning.
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>>5145677
>the first one isn't true though
But it is. This is gonna come off as rude but honestly like, people have to push you to shave more, you're obviously clinging to boymode in some way. Just doing it every day and making it the norm and eventually it will be that way and feel that way, it's a mindset and people can pick up on that, even if they aren't aware. I really doubt kids even know the word tranny to yell it like you say, maybe it was an isolated time but obviously if a kid knows that word there were some anti-trans influences there.

It's gonna suck and it feels terrible and you're gonna feel like every person looking at you is clocking you, but odds are, they probably care as much about that as they do the fat ugly chick or the old lady. Everyone seems to have this ideal of being the popular high school girl after transitioning. Totally a great goal and all, but not realistic.
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>>5145692
>studying
>picking up a good book
>going to the theater
>playing sports
>hanging out with friends
>making friends if you don't have any
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Alright, found a haircut I can get that fits within the in n out guidelines
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>>5145717
That looks awesome and tempting. Saved.
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>>5145710
>studying

i'm not a nerd tho
>reading a book

meh
>theater

boring
>sports

no ;-;
>hanging out with friends

its like 7 or 8 pm
>making friends

meh
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>>5145717
>in n out
In-N-Out Burger?
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Is 10,000mcg of biotin too much?
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>>5145724
You need to fuck off and do anything. Sitting on 4chan and saying no to everything that comes up is how you lead a shitty life.
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>>5145725
yes
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>>5145729
;~~;
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>>5145701
>Despite you being so infantile, unable to function in society and watching anime at your age anon still likes you.
yeah i try not to question it tbh
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>>5145717
Grats on job there! I go to the one near my house like,all the fucking time XD

>>5145736
They aren't wrong though.
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>>5145565
Mind = blown
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>>5145738
yeah but i don't have much to do atm, plus tomorrow i have to be in all day due to sky installation
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>>5145724
Not studying as in doing schoolwork but studying as in expanding your knowledge and interests. Something to make you a better, more well rounded and interesting person. You don't want to be able to talk only about care and breeding of pokemon or merits of various game controllers.
Unfortunately you can't "meh" your way through life. As >>5145729
already stated it's a shitty way to live. Learn from the mistakes of others here.
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>>5145745
Installing.. Sky? What o.o

>>5145746
Today seems to be good advice day in this thread
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>>5145732
Don't employees there wear those silly caps? That seems like a high maintenance haircut.

>>5145737
Oh bexy if only you could snap out of it.
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>>5145717
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>>5145621
I actually somewhat agree with this. While people arent actively looking for trans people to clock sometimes one thing can open a shitcan of clocking worms.

If you are hugging the line between passing and not though your voice can do you wonders.
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>>5145682
trip on lily
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>>5145745
You're abled bodied and have internet access, there is a world of things you could do. Go exercise, learn something, practice an old skill or pick up a new one. There are not many things worse to do than sitting on 4chan at 15 and claiming you have nothing you can do.

The only worthwhile thing you can do on 4chan is get permabanned for a few years.
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>>5145761
Set it alight
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>>5145746
I already do that tho
>>5145756
broadband & TV
>>5145765
mean ;-;
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>>5145717
>tfw don't have the hairline to pull off an undercut
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>>5145707
>people have to push you to shave more, you're obviously clinging to boymode in some way
AGAIN with the shaving thing? How many more times do I have to post this pic? I want laser. I don't have the money yet. When I get the money, I'll get laser done. For now, I can't razor-shave because it does this to my skin no matter what precautions I take and it takes about a fortnight to go away. I use an electric trimmer once or twice a week on the closest setting.

If I lived in this city where I am now forever I could possibly, maybe, just about handle it. I get comments and nobody sits next to me on the bus, but not really anything else, it's not like restaurants are refusing to serve me or anything. But I'm a pauper and will probably have to move to a shithole like Leicester or Lowestoft for the first five to ten years after uni, if not for the rest of my life, and there it is entirely likely I could get hurt just for looking like microwaved shit.
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>>5145726
Its not like I wanted responses anyway. ;~;
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>>5145761
What the fuck is glitterpunk?
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>>5145761
good god they just sound like a massive, MASSIVE hipster tbh
avoid like maxi skirts for the love of god
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>>5145771
Hey. In a few years could you make sure you don't namedrop 4chan when you attack workers at a game store for putting up a sonic poster you don't like the look of.
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>>5145771
stop posting this pic you nasty fuck.
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>>5145773
afaik you will just pee out any excess. i think 5000 is the maximum daily amt you can take
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>>5145776
oh god that poor therapist
>>
h-hey mitfeguh

>>5145769
>tfw don't even have the hairline to even pull off bangs
there literally isn't enough hair :(
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>>5145724
I dont mean to sound cruel but what part of '18 or older' do you not understand? Its not like youre even 17 you are literally 2 years older than 12. Fuck out now pls.
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>>5145771
Just don't post images of yourself EVER AGAIN.
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>>5145785
but how would i annoy you then anon :^)
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>>5145645
>>5145645
>>5145645
elannaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa omg ;_____;

UGH you poor thing ;~;

tallk to me ANYTIME you want on skype even if it's just to vent I will listen ;~;
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>>5145776
This sounds retarded but then I glimpse how people see trans people the exact same way
Somebody quick remind me what the difference is between being trans and 'otherkin' wrt trans needing to be taken more seriously or something, I've forgotten my counterarguments and this is freaking me out
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>>5145757
i may snap out of my hikki ways once i overcome my anxiety but i will never snap out of anime or vidya

>>5145795
there is no such thing as hormones causing your brain to become fox-like in structure
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>>5145778
What even???

>>5145779
What the fuck am I meant to do when people won't shut the fuck up about me shaving? When I'm not looking at it in my reflection I can almost pretend it's not there until people fucking remind me again. Jesus. I know I need to get it fixed. I've explained what's stopping me (money) so many fucking times now, it's ridiculous. I shouldn't need to keep explaining the same thing over and over again to largely the same people.
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>>5145798
nice, thanks
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>>5145780
Oh. Its just these tablets I bought are 10,000mcg. Maybe I should have looked for a smaller amount. Now I'm scared to take one.
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>>5145798
STOP OPPRESSING FOXKIN
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>>5145798
selamat pagi bexe-chan!
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>>5145807
don't be scared, its not gonna hurt you.
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>>5145798
Your hikki ways include watching anime and vidya bexy.
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>>5145804
heres an idea. maybe just not respond and deal with it yourself? maybe buy some concealer and learn makeup like the rest of us instead of showing everyone your poor hygene on a daily basis
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>>5145814
HON ANGRY
HON SMASH
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>>5145807
Are you taking these? I've been having one a day and there haven't been any bad side effects other than faster growing body hair
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>>5145810
Fine I'll take them. I won't waste those six dollars! But why do they even sell 10,000mcg in such non assuming little bottles? ;~;
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>>5145827
>But why do they even sell 10,000mcg in such non assuming little bottles? ;~;

to trick people into buying them
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>>5145814
>showing everyone your poor hygiene
Don't you dare accuse me of poor fucking hygiene, I bet I have some of the best hygiene of anyone on this fucking board

How many times do you clean your ears a week?
How many times do you wash behind your ears?
How many times do you clean your navel?

And that's not even touching on shaving care. Not to mention how pants-on-head retarded it would be to put make-up over a rash like that. Fuck off.
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>>5145827
because your body literally only uses what it needs and pees out the rest
if you have a deficiency it will use whatever you give it and still pee some out
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>>5145813
then i guess you'll have to stop me yourself

>>5145809
ohayou gozaimasu sheen-chan!

>>5145808
foxkin deserve to be bullied
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>>5145789

You are 14. Its bad enough that there are adult weabs on here who pretend to be 14 year old girls. I dont think anyone would be sad to see an actual 14 year old go. Pls go.
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>>5145824
Same thing different brand.

>>5145830
I've been bamboozled!
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>>5145839
n-no ;(
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>>5145804
You're letting those things block you. Some girls end up homeless starting transition, with no money.

>>5145836
Also, do you exfoliate and clean your face when you shave? That kind of stuff happened a little to me when I started shaving but stopped as I did it more and actually learned about skin care.


It was mainly just meant to be pointing out the fact that you're having to be pushed along this path instead of just digging in and putting some real effort.
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>>5145836
Not that anon but you always look like you just tumbled out of a dumpster.
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Goddamn when is the US army gonna finally update its transgender policy?

I don't want to enlist in my 30s ;(
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>>5145836
do you really live such a disgusting lifestyle that you need to clean your navel and ears multiple times a week? no. you fuck off.
>>
reported enjoy ban
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>>5145849
You shouldn' t enlist in the US army tbh
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>>5145838
Growing up doesn't work that way bexy.
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>>5145836
lmao you asspie, you have the worst hygiene in this thread. You really think doing basic things like cleaning your ears is impressive hygiene haha holy shit.
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>>5145853
Meant for
>>5145844
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>>5145849
>dying for israel

>>5145860
watching tv and doing crosswords isn't going to make me any more mature than i already am
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>>5145757
Yeah, those silly caps are exactly why I need to get a haircut. I can't have it long on the sides.
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>>5145867
No but getting some degree and a decent job would. All of which require time and commitment, both of which you are wasting on watching shitty anime.
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>>5145854
Why bb? I've been thinking it over for more than a year.

>>5145867
>/pol/ memes
>le jew threat

Yeah no.
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>>5145849
maki joined the navy just fine, she just pretended she wasnt trans
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Thanks for the help. I hope one day I'll have such beautiful flowing hair like my life goal Swift. One day ;~;
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>>5145870
the only thing keeping me from doing that is my massive anxiety, and i'm seeing a specialist for that in a few days

and once i get a job i'll watch more anime
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IM IN THE NO PASSING PHASE AHHHHHHHHHH
I CANT PASS IN DUDE MODE AND I CANT PASS IN GRILL MODE. WHEN WILL THIS RIDE END? I'M GETTING STARES EVERYWHERE I GO.
also is it even possible to transition in uni or should i just get a job for after this session and come back when i pass or don't care about passing tbh?
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>>5145880
literally nobody gets elected unless they suck up to AIPAC
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>>5145892
Uni is one of the easiest places to transition.
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>>5145864
I am getting new internet service tomorrow - new IP :D
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>>5145895
well fuck.
looks like the neet life might be coming up for me tbh fam.
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>>5145901
You can just reset the modem to get a new IP anyway no?
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>>5145881
Except I'm not a man and I want to serve openly as a woman. But the way this shitty world is that probably has a very slim chance of happening.

I need SRS and that complicates things so much. I wish I was born cis so I could enlist already. Like if I was cis I could manage to enlist by next year.
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>>5145906
Virgin media - nope
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>>5145845
Yes, I do. I also open up the pores beforehand with a flannel repeatedly soaked in red-hot water, and have tried both shaving gel and shaving cream, and using anti-rash cream after rinsing when I'm done.

'Real effort' is me getting into uni and doing a STEM degree so I'm not stuck living with my parents after uni, for fuck's sake. The few people I know from high school who didn't go to uni is still living back in my isolated rural hometown, either unemployed or working minimum wage at jobs that I would find difficult or impossible because of my disability, living with their parents, and in many cases, hooked on hard drugs. I'm trying to move forwards but it's not easy when you have £300 to your name to last you until February and you're living in a city (i.e. higher cost of living). Not to mention my living situation is not stable enough that I can come out to my parents right now and expect to have somewhere else to live. I couldn't bear to lose all my possessions, for a start I have CDs of which there are less than 1000 copies in the world, things I've spent literally years tracking down. Also doesn't help my family is scattered across the country so judging whether they might be inclined to help me is virtually impossible currently.
>>
im trying to tuck but i keep getting a boner

pls help me with these agp feels
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>>5145915
tubesock method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzp9tbedh7Q
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>>5145915
First indulge in a nice fap then tuck.
Problem solved.
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>>5145922
im not horny

>>5145921
2much effort
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>>5145846
It's mostly my hair, which I've said time and again I'm trying to figure out what style would suit me. I haven't had it cut at all in about 2.5 years now. I'm not good at dressing myself etc., and can't iron because of my wrists being weak. So untidy, yeah, not by choice. But not unclean. I get fed up of not getting credit for the things I try to do or do right and only getting criticised for what I've done wrong or forgotten to do, my parents are always doing that too.

>>5145851
It's not my fault if you wallow in your own filth, I'm just hygienic.

>>5145862
Considering the results I've had from lending people, even cis girls, my headphones I'd say we're in the minority.
>>
i slept allll day today

i'd say it was a good day if i didn't have an awful headache since when you sleep you forget that you're a worthless subhuman piece of shit that needs to fuck off and die.
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>>5145901
Nobody but sketchy pedo lurkers want 14 year olds here. Especially when you post lewd pictures. Sorry.
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>>5145925
>2much effort
its literally a diy gaff that doesnt suck
its just an old sock and a band from some old hose put together
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>>5145929
i'll just be a qt meme trap with a visible giant bulge and pretend to be an ftm

>>5145901
if we get married itll be legal for us to have sex in the state of california

pls marry
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>>5145926
What did we say about posting photos of yourself?
Do not do it.

>>5145927
Eyyy rawr.
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>>5145927
You really are ugly.
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>>5145934
fuck i forgot to change my name here
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>>5145915
push testicles up into the pockets above your gt, then push your gt between your legs, and put on 1-2 pairs of tight underwear.
it's easier if you're small but more convenient than using tape or some other shit.
>>5145921
eww she's gross
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>>5145940
i tried its so weird and uncomfy with my right ball
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>>5145943
>i tried its so weird and uncomfy with my right ball
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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>>5145927
you've got literally one of the best possible face shapes for transition
I'm not asking you to think that you look good, because obviously it's a deeper-set problem for you, but seriously, believe that others think that because it's true you delusional dumbass

>>5145935
But everyone else does it, don't be a little bitch
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>>5145927
hey
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>>5145943
then cut it off
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>>5145946
>I'm not asking you to think that you look good
She doesn't though.
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>>5145950
no im planning to run a train on a qt grill with my qt grill friend i need my gt for that
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>>5145940
>eww she's gross
the video is like three years old
her newer vids she is much cuter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzp9tbedh7Q
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>>5145951
Why do you say that? You're only feeding her BDD. What looks wrong about her? I mean, look at her brow and chin compared to mine for a start.
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>>5145946
No YOU stop being a little bitch.
Stop with this torrent of posts where all you do is whine in the most annoying way possible.
Stop posting your ugly, unshaven mug and your hunched, flabby body. No one needs to see that again and again.
And above all stop posting this long lists of excuses for why you are such a fuck-up. No one cares because you are that annoying.
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>>5145957
Gaunt cheeks, cleft chin, hooded eyes, dark circles, misshapen nose, awkward jaw.

Under no stretch of the imagination would all that even be considered normal for a female.
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waht seems to be the problem here? is it ants?
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>>5145888
Best of luck.
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>>5145955
I don't think so..

>>5145952
Then honestly I hope you get assaulted on the street for having a visible bulge, sir.
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>>5145970
wowe bully

good thing i live in san francisco :^)
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I don't see the point anymore

I'm fucking done with all this bullshit. I have turned to the occult. I am selling my soul to a demon to become a real girl. If this doesn't work its just going to confirm my innate disbelief in the supernatural. No one should have to suffer being trans. After that I'm done with life.

I'd kill 10 million babies in order to be a cis female. I'd let nuclear fire ensume every city on earth just to become female. I would eat off my own arm, bone and all to become female.

Fuck the world. Fuck society. Fuck all of you. None of us will ever be accepted by society. even if the majority of society comes to accept it (which is happening pretty fast) there will always be that one person that says you aren't a real woman. Bringing back the fact we are biologically male.

There is no point of living.
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>>5145987
So many men have done it successfully, why can't you?
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>>5145987
Trip on Kayla
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>>5145998
if I can't give birth, have blood squirt out my vagina every month and have every human being on this disgusting planet accept me there is no point

>>5146000
i can assure you I'm not kayla
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>>5145998
yeah but just as many haven't been successful, arguably most
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>>5146004
Fuck off Rawr
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>>5145968
thanks fam, i really want to get past this anxiety because it destroys me any time i try to improve myself in a way that isn't physical exercise
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>>5145987
are you still going to the job fair Kayla?
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>>5146004
Nigga, let's face it - even if you had all of that you would probably fuck it up somehow.
>>
wuts up mtfg?

after my partner and I went for a walk I got all stressy about food and stuff and kinda donked out till I just woke
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>>5146013
>neet
pls, only thing that ever happens w kayla are stories and more stories
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>>5146009
I'm not rawr

>>5146013
I'm not kayla,

>>5146021
That's where you are wrong. If I was female I'd have a boyfriend, all you need to do is rub ass in their face and get money and love.

Also the fact that I would have to take hormones FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE and if I get srs SHOVE A PHALLIC SHAPED OBJECT IN MY FAKE PUSSY 3-5 TIMES A DAY FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE LEST IN ENDS UP SEWING ITSELF SHUT.

Face it, there is no point I'n living,
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>>5146025
Kayla is an art project. She exists as a cautionary story to transitioners.
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>>5146004
>if I can't give birth
You can adopt or wait for the incoming scientific breakthroughts of the next decade. In either case, nothing is stopping you from having a family.

>have blood squirt out my vagina every month
Wait for ovary transplants or make peace with the fact that nothing can be done about that. Either way it's not as important as having a family, biological or not.

>and have every human being on this disgusting planet accept me there is no point
That won't ever happen even for cis people. Conflict is natural to the human race. People have a thousand reasons to hate you besides you being trans.
>>
>>5145987
>>5146030
Calm your T rage Kayla
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>>5146030
Feefsy is that you?
Because a lot of women rubbed their asses on a lot of faces and got nothing for it. And I really don't think anyone else is responsible for you nuking your body with hormones or having horribly invasive surgeries.
Being a failure is not dependent on your gender.

>>5146033
An art project that has lasted for over 5 years and is getting worse.
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>>5146035
I meant accepting as in accepting I am female. When someone is born female everyone EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGES HER AS FEMALE.

Also with the implants and shit thats not going to happen. there is no research or any advances toward that shit. Its just a prediction. Just look at how 30 years ago they thought the future would be.

I don't have an accepting family. You are all fucking LUCKY, the trans girls that have accepting parents AND HAVE YOUR HORMONES AND TRANSITION PAID FOR

>>5146040
NEXT THREAD ILL TIME STAMP WITH MY FACE TO PROVE IM NOT KAYLA

>>5146041
who the fuck is feefsy

It IS easier for cis woman. If you don't recognize that your are blind sir/madam.
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>>5146043
ok Kayla
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>>5145793
Please respond on skype
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>>5145987
>even if the majority of society comes to accept it (which is happening pretty fast) there will always be that one person that says you aren't a real woman
oh no, soem people are still racist! I guess everyone should just stop being any ethnicity that anyone doesn't like, oh no, some people are sexist! I guess all humans should just kill themselves

>>5146030
>If I was female I'd have a boyfriend
yeah fuck all the fake "cis" women who can't get a date, they're all so obviously fake and manly!

my partner needs to take meds just to stay alive
if a vagina means so little to you that it's not worth using a dildo on it then maybe it's not for you, anyway dilation is to preserve depth, not keep it from closing up like some bad "axe-wound" bait so either you're an idiot who has no idea what they are talking about and are basing life decisions in that ignorance, or this is just shitty bait
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>>5146043
Feefsy is someone who whines like you.
And how do cis women have it easier? They just are. You are a man trying to be a woman. You are in qualitatively different categories.
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>>5146052
i don't want to have to dialate and take fucking shots to have to make me who i am

i also doubt i would ever pass

they don't have to deal with this bullshit
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>>5146043
everyone acknowledges me as female irl and I'm ugly as shit

not everyone here has an accepting family
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new thread

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>>5145970
>hons jealous of passing girls
Meme never gets old
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>>5146065
oops

>>5146063
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>>5146056
They don't have to deal with that bullshit because they are different. You, an orange, is comparing yourself to apples.
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>>5146074
haha nice try hon but I am younger and pass way better than that ugly man
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>>5146077
fuck being an apple i want to be an orange

at least normal people can change their career, can change their appearance

I can't change genetics
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>>5146081
Well tough shit, little orange. I hope you'll come to terms with yourself and find something good about yourself - like an abundance of vitamin C.
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>>5146030
It's not even 3 times a day after six months, it's not anywhere near daily after a year or tow, and it doesn't actually shut, it just atrophies.
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Hey everyone.
I'm really sorry.
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come back everyone i'm lonely
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