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Oh I didn't mean you'll go full on anorexic.
I meant you'll reach your goal weight.
fuck it does
it seems cheap when you start, because a single cigarette lets you skip a meal, which you might be doing because you poor af or because you got an ED.
and then it does less and less, and you smoke more and more, not most days, but just occasionally when you've had a bad one.
and then you die of lung cancer.
what you should REALLY be worried about with smoking is how it astronomically increases your chance of a blood clot. THAT'S an actual problem.
because it's obvious?
>That's just a picture voicing the thoughts of anorexics.
like there's a difference lol
thank thank you
it's too bad that i'll never have good bone structure though
>like there's a difference lol
There's a difference...
Pro-ana is basically telling others how to lose weight, and encourage them to lose weight.
Then there's just productive things, like that picture, where people just voice their thoughts for others to hear, which should be good for them, so they aren't too alone with those thoughts
>it's too bad that i'll never have good bone structure though
>Pro-ana refers to the promotion of behaviors related to the eating disorder anorexia nervosa.
but it's also reinforcing the behavior and beliefs of anorexia to post something like this >>5139730
idk how u can say that's not pro-anorexia when that kind of image glorifies and promotes feeling bad about urself to the degree that anorexia is normative lol
yeah im "fat as fuck" right i forgot
for real tho
To someone without anorexia the juxtaposition of the skinny body with the text screams 'I have a serious problem', dunno how it affects those who already have anorexia though.
>tfw super hot 6'4" german dude messaged me on okc
i'm afraid i'm gonna fuck this up, somehow. ;-;
But you are all so entertainingly crazy.
Pictures like that are just a way to justify their horrible way of dealing with something as simple as weight loss.
I mean just look at this little gems (the first hit on Google for pro-ana).
>Spin around in circles, it will make you too dizzy and nauseous to eat.
>Try enjoying hunger pangs.
>Look at your self naked and pinch your fat.
>Go on Pro Ana blogs.
>Make a list of “bad” foods. Periodically, cross one of the list and pledge to never, ever eat it again. Eventually there will be none left.
>Watch people eat and notice how disgusting it looks.
How does one find out about one's bone structure?
there's a Halloween party at my girlfriend's work tomorrow
I know that office parties are kinda boring as heck, but these days I like to take any opportunity I can to get out of the house
only thing is that the party is right after work, and we live too far away for my girlfriend to come bring me there after work
I'm considering just having her bring me to work tomorrow and I'll sit in a nearby Starbucks or something until 4 oclock
I'm really desperate to get out of the house lol
Yeah, I get that. I've been doing a lot of long distance walking lately and I've found that it's surprisingly not that bad to walk for a few hours even taking into account the fact that I'm a smoker with osteopenia and arthritis.
It's a donated cadaver. I don't see how it's any different from that very same cadaver being chopped up by med students beside more media exposure.
>tfw still ugly af and don't pass
oh i can see you're a fucking retard lol
you must come down here and again and i can force feed them to you
ps what i eat are more like english biscuits tho
pps i gotta go work now and stick my head into 18 hives of bees
wow this place sucks why are you all so negative
I am tired of getting fucked by my mtf-gf. Shouldn't the HRT keep the sexdrive down?
I doubt she want that...
>you mtf as well?
Uhm no, I am a guy. Problem is, we usually start to make out and she gives a good head and then she just lays down and begs to be fucked and I lose myself in pleasure as soon I am done...that's when she says "but you did it, so let me do it too" all the time. Doesn't feel bad but doesn't feel as good as doing the fucking. It's weird how we gotten together, I seriously feel like she might have been stalking me before getting to know me...
>i forgot that arguing with u is literally arguing with willful ignorance
We're not even arguing...
They are expressing "pro-ana" thoughts feefsy. That macro was probably made by someone trying to take their mind off feeling horribly hungry.
They're just expressing themsleves... Also, they do everything while being hungry and trying to think of something other than being hungry.
I used to look at lots of master chef for a while, to keep my mind busy/stimulated and not be as hungry, so I guess master chef is pro-ana?
>pass all the time every day
>never get misgendered
>you're still a unpassable hon to mtfg
Good morning /mtfg/
Today is laundry, working on my costume, essays, and socializing.
Anyone have any plans today?
>Scroll through the fisrt page
>See a thread with a similar OP pic as this one
>Assumed ftmg had made a spinoff or something of this general
>mfw I gendered OP pic as male for several seconds before I realized it was mtfg
>mfw I have no face
Sleep packing and being lazy
>I wanna practice to be a real girl
>doesnt want bitching and drama
How are you going to practice then?
Lots of slutty selfies and social media imo
Met group of pre t ftms
They figured out I was trans because "you're a boy with tits"
They thought I was ftm
I said I was mtf eventually, they thought I was kidding
I came out again
I think they believed me this time, and then I cried when they asked me if I had started e
It's fun having a group to hang with, and the gay cis guy started non stop calling me bitch and slut almost immediately after, so that's a thing.
Also he has a friend that is no hormones no transition mtf that just likes to be referred to as female, so like I feel like it's not so weird being a mtf on hormones that wears girl clothes and boy voices
are anacondas pretty? i think they're pretty.
>tfw no trans GF to give special massages to
I love like glossy leathery stuff, mostly for bags... They just look so rich, and high status.'
Also, cis girls that I see outside, on pictures, and drawings, makes me really sad.
well my mood swings are outta control, cause yesterday I went from happy and optimistic to triggered and balling my eyes out to optimistic to annoyed to surly playfully bitchy to horny to calm and whatever.
>Pretty things we like
I'm prolly doomed to have a garden cause I think flowers are really pretty. I also really like old sea/boat paintings, they're usually very beautiful
>I went from happy and optimistic to triggered and balling my eyes out
God, I watched this pixar/disney movie with my family, about "emotions" in a little girls head.
One scene in there was so sad, and it was so hard to keep myself from crying... It would've been too embarrassing to cry because of it.
lol I was in my Gender and Sexualities class and we were watching Paris is Burning and I had to leave and go cry in the bathroom cause I just was so scared about ending up just being a glorified drag queen
Everyone knows about Pixar movies, you just need to use the name. Anyway, it's not like there's anyone who didn't cry at the incinerator scene in Toy Story 3, was it at least that sad?
my vibe came in the mail, i went out, bought batteries, lubed up, stuck it in, phoned my guy and got off to sweet vibrations and the sound of his voice, ate half my day's calories in chocolate and mince pies AND i got paid today
today is a good day
I don't know the name of the movie.
It was really sad... like one person sacrificing themselves for somebody else, without letting them know about it.
I don't remember the toy story 3 incinerator
I love kate spade a little too much, I want the black dress desperetly, but I'd never be able to wear it anywhere because Im a boy
Funny thing is I'm an English major and thought I was signing up for another class, and then went in and I guess it's a combo English/Gender class and I'm like "wtf I didn't want to take this feminist bullshit class" but now that I came out I'm glad I took it lol
ah ok, got a link? I'm thinking about getting one
>And no, I live in my apartment
thanks for clarifying
Omg I had a sociology class in Oakland where they made us watch that,
Here's the two highlights I remember
1. Teacher brings up social demonization of crossing gender rolls, and how we make them up. For example nail polish isn't bad to a three year old boy. Huge Black guy saying no kid of his would ever be a faggot and wear nail polish about 20 times.
2. Two black girls openly discus how they can tell which faggots were born boys 100% of the time, teacher says she knows trans people, and no you can't. They looked like they were slapped and then proceeded on to say there are always tells.
I died a slow death that day
If anything I'm glad my class is all feminists, gays, and english majors who don't give a shit cause it's gonna be hard enough trying to sit through the rest of it.
I also have no idea when we reach the trans section of the course. It's mostly FtM (there's not a lot of scholarly work on MtF) but it's still gonna be awkward, especially cause that's the class with the other person I met at the trans group who we didn't know the other was trans
i got this http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=1590
i've never bought or used a toy for myself before so idk how good it is really, i'm crazy sensitive (the first time i was with my guy he got me off twice just by thrusting and grinding against me and biting my neck/strangling me). it felt nice but the orgasm wasn't as strong as when he does stuff. just get a bf really.
a lot of fashion models are intersex, accounting for height and striking androgynous features, but I would be surprised about stealth trans people either
Fucking cis girls and their bodies... This body time is even super common among cis girls, it's fucking ridiculous what a much higher class they are in than most of us trans.
oh that's pretty cheap and looks nice! I should prolly get on-
uh oh will they ship to burgerland?
as a fellow Mainer I can say all there is to really do around here is smoke or get drunk
especially when you get out of the city
Don't forget, you're here forever or something and everyone is a hon. Everyone.
I'd say it really depends on the professor and the class. I have a very knowledgeable and learned professor (although the nature of all the info gets dry after a while) so any questions are answered fairly accurately, and helps to bridge the gap between queer theory and stuff and literature I guess.
My class is kinda blah cause we're all tired and apathetic but there's some good discussions that go on.
Comes from sites like Laura's playground or Susan's where older and unpassable transitioners would use the term constantly in their compliments. "You look great hon" is used unironically there.
pick up a hobby, go to bars, meet up with your SO friends.I've become good friends with my boyfriends guy friends girlfriends.
get engaged in town hall or community meetings and stuff.
Pursue interests, meet people with similar interests by going to clubs and events and stuff.
If old enough and in a stable relationship with adoption, make friends with your kid's friends parents.
theres always amazon, they're discreet. i bought mine through amazon
college friends, friends of friends, colleagues, plus i've made friends through the internet and MMOs, some of my closest friends i met online in 2006-ish and became IRL friends
making friends is about having the right attitude
there's plenty of people i'd live with here
I just found out my health insurance is being expanded next year to include up to 75000 lifetime maximum towards trans surgery and it sounds like it may include ffs ("surgery to change specified secondary sex characteristics").
Sure where do you live?
My hobbies include working, being a tranny, and playing wow with my bf, who is also a shut in with no friends. And I'm the only friend of my only two other friends.
Same actually but I think I need irl friends.
>tfw my close friends are all boys
>tfw hanging out with them and listening to what kinda of clothes they think looks good on girls
>tfw taking mental notes on what to buy
pretty sure all the uk trips are within visiting distance from me, Edgar is an hour's drive away. I want a uk mtfg pizza party in London next year and I'm well up for some of the trips I skype with coming on my birthday/8 month tranniversary/rhinoplasty celebration where I run around Camden buying cliched gothic tranny tat
mtfgen-haus might not be the worst thing
Kit, you be going undercover, use your ninja tranny skills to their fullest while you can :3
>far away from the world
I wouldn't go that far, Edmonton is a reasonably large city for how far north it is. There's just not that many people on 4chan here, and even fewer who are mtf.
There's at least more than one trip in the bay area right?
well using a vape/tincture helps with my lungs
I think my brain is a lost cause since way before
I don't get high ALL day, just when I'm like trying to eat or keep stuff down and stuff like that
shortened form of "honey" which is an affectionate term that used to be more popular in some areas and so is associated with older trans people who transitioned with less-great results and compensate with over-use of behaviors and terms they perceive as girly and cute in their outdated views
alternatively it's just something you call someone you don't like
I think the only trips I have near me are vivi obviously and kinda moko
I think it's more like 15 min
Oh, hey! There you are
I ended up going on a trip to san fran instead of sleeping last night
Also, my account is the one with the rare pepe as its avatar
Newquay. Since we can go to the beach after to smash watermelons.
O-oh I was making a bad fellatio joke ;~;
A mtfg slumber party would be fantastic though, and probably less weeby IRL than online. Probably.
Hair is particularly wavy today lol.
Are there any people near Baltimore here? Or Seoul?
well I don't rlly wanna advertise where other ppl are unless they wanna say but they're south of us and sometimes we head down that way cus my partner's liver doc she's had since she was a baby is in the area
>tfw no gay magic girls sleepover party
Ideally, the one who wants to be your boyfriend is like "you're pretty" and the chaser is "i like girls like you ;)"
If you want a test, see what they think if you say you want SRS (if you do, don't lie about it). A chaser will be like "you're great the way you are" and bf material will be like "do whatever will make you happy."
I know that triggers u but whateves, it feels silly to call her just my gf after everything, only reason we haven't gotten married is financial bs, maybe we'll even have a non-legal ceremony at some point in the meantime
whether they care about u more as a person or a tranny/trap/reellieffuta/whateves
now THAT'S crazy
That's not crazy I just find the button placement confusing and the dpad and triggers suck ;~; nice analog stick though.
Honestly you do you, you can only have 4 GameCube controllers plugged in anyways right? I'll take the "shit" controller.
I love the pro controller, its so comfortable and definitely underrated.
Have you used the Wii U pro controller?
C O M F Y
i don't play video games or watch anime because i'm not a giant shut in nerd
i peed a little.
this class sux and basically is a huge waste of time.
>not playing casual vidya and still being a normie
I just want to understand your mentality. If you think you're a man why are you so interested in getting SRS?
Also, do you like your GT getting touched during sex?
Do you not believe in transgender at all and think we are all just freaks?
I just don't understand you rawr.
also my fucking mouse keeps recognising single clicks as double clicks so highlighting text or doing pretty much anything is a pain in the ass rn
>not being a furry
>me in 2 years
>mfw I'm just going to be a man with giant boobs
i am not looking forwards to it
REEEEE FILTHY PASSERS GET OUT
Feelings? Here's a fun one, pic related!
The GameCube controller has strong features, but there are too many things that make me dislike it. For a lot of things on a 2d plane I prefer to use a d-pad, and the GameCube controller has a worse d-pad than the Xbox 360 controller. >.>
Also, those triggers...
How's the 2ds though? It looks pretty cumbersome :(
I'm still cool if I prefer the pro controller right? ;~;
>tfw don't have enough money to buy cliched gothic tranny tat
maybe if I use enough white make-up and black lace it'll hide my actual appearance enough to become an nondescript monochrome smear
Edgar, you poor little girl trapped in a man's flabby body - why do you do this to yourself?
Andreja Pejic is not someone you should measure yourself to.
it is really cumbersome, I just got used to it :/
and yea but you don't use the D Pad
And they're not XBOX 360 triggers but they still work
idk to each their own
>For a lot of things on a 2d plane I prefer to use a d-pad, and the GameCube controller has a worse d-pad than the Xbox 360 controller.
I have to say I strongly agree with you, d-pad4lyfe
Any time madison. The fashion world is fascinating.
tell me a way to stop the thoughts constantly entering my head and maybe I'll stop sadposting
if I didn't post this shit here I'd probably end up screaming ">ywn be cis" in lectures or something
She just likes to spout terf talking points as a way to troll. And terfs have been slowly moving the talking points towards vaguely maybe sort of tolerating the existence of young trans people because at this point they look like a bunch of shrill 60 years old verbally assaulting people a quarter to a third their age, which they basically are. And they don't want to be remembered as the racist, homophobic grandmas of feminism.
She also likes to go anon to screw with everyone's filters because she is so fucking important.
oh btw here's another reason I should probably just die right now
>Except quite a few models are stealth trans women.
o-oh yea haha
[spoiler]I'm gonna neglect the fact that I never really played Gamecube growing up and the only games I've really played are Metroid Prime, Melee, and Megaman Anniversary Collection...[/spoiler]
But erin pls ;~;
I just can't use a controller with a d-pad like that after getting so used to the controller with objectively the best d-pad.
Those are the must play GameCube games but there's actually a lot of great GameCube stuff besides that that uses other control surfaces. Sega ported most of the major Dreamcast stuff to GameCube.
I feel like we should talk about boys or something rn...
What a hot mess that will be.
I've been researching corset training. It only effects the lowest 7 ribs, right? I already have something of an inverted triangle torso so I don't think that will actually make much difference. If you can show me an example of it changing the upper ribcage I'll be totally sold.
I'm currently trying to arrange non-gender speech therapy with my uni mentor because my muscle disorder fucks with my ability to control pitch and stuff anyway. Maybe after a few months of that I'll try and start mtf voice training. I exercise a lot already.
kind of gross pic sorry but I don't think the other one was quite straight-on and didn't really show of the width of my torso properly
literally getting more Nair this weekend before you mention the body hair, don't get your gt in a knot
yeah literally me in a couple of years
Also, who /soylent/ here?
although actually I'm not even that good at makeup, thanks dyspraxia
I know but the only Nintendo thing I ever played growing up was Gameboy ;-;
For consoles we had Playstation 1 and 2 and then an XBOX 360 so I never really played good Nintendo stuff. I just played Diddy Kong Racing for the first time this year and have still never played a Donkey Kong game ;-;
I did play Banjo-Kazooie though, and it's amazing <3
>W-will being a console peasant get me boys? ;~;
mm idk tbh. the boys at my work talk about xbox all the time so mb. so it's kinda yeah idk. i guess it can't hurt elanna mb invite a boy over to play *ahem* consoles.. ._.;;
Jesus christ, you're the last person I'd trust with a gun
>"H-He attacked me! It was self-defence!"
>"Mam, he was sitting in the back seat of the car in front of you. You shot him in the back of the head."
Lol, well said
I know it's so comfy ;~;
If I could use it with every system for 2d games I totally would.
I have a confession, I also only had a gameboy growing up. My first system was an Xbox 360 and I emulated most of the n64 stuff I played. Donkey Kong is great though, I played the gameboy version so much growing up.
what are you talking about? I know I have a creepy face, dumbass, that's why my last trip was literally 'ol' rapey face'. It scares a lot of people and most people who are attracted to me are so because they want a patrick bateman-style bf (which is not a personality type I fit, obviously). my parents hate my smile too. if I don't force my eyes open, they droop so much I look literally retarded, more than I actually am.
it's ok we understand each other <3
but I usually emulated NES and SNES stuff cause the n64 stuff would always break :/
So I played a lot of Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Island, and Link to the Past <3
>me not on the list
you dun fucked up, I honestly think I'm heavier than everyone else on here lol
I'm just screwing around fam, sorry.
I also rlly love this bag I organize my to-go makeup stuff in, my mom got it for me recently from the sea-bag store where they make stuff from recycled sails
N64 emulation is flakey but works great for the major titles like majoras mask, Mario 64 and oot.
SNES emulation is so much better tho, I should have done what you did. ;~;
That sounds awesome ^^
How well does it work? I got a cheap no name converter and it's really flakey with 6 button pads.
It's been years since I've done meth anon
Personal carry every day. Tfw splurging on expensive makeup means i dont need to take shit when I go out.
yea :/ and then there was the time I wanted to try to emulate gamecube stuff.... that was a disaster
but yea I remember spending many nights emulating and playing stuff lol. I also emulated Megaman and Pokemon cause I'd play a lot of hacks and tried my hand at hacking Megaman 3 and Pokemon Fire Red. Actually, I did a little sprite work for a popular hack (that's dead now) back when I went on those forums (where I would say I was a girl kek)
I guess I am here b.c I mentioned I was trying to lose wieght at some point. That's really just so I can regain it after I start HRT so the fat redistribution will be faster/better (I'm not even sure if that is a thing but I read somewhere it is a thing)
>tfw cooked stirfry for dinner
>it was quite nice
>only had a small amount tho
>thinking about going back for more later
>read this post
Am that anon... But, there are a few trans women who do modeling, stealth.
It's just that you kind of need to inherent a pear shape from your mothers, and then get on hormones in your early teens... 99/100 don't do that, and even if you are the 1/100, chances of being recruited is low too.
Ty! I got it at Ross, I have a few other purses but since buying this one I have never used any of my others.
Oh yeah, I'm trying to gain weight actually. I want to get up to a healthy weight but never have been above 130 in my life =\. Yay eating disorders.
Yea that's the problem with emulation. My ex put a PS1 emulator on my computer and it took up a shit-ton of space and when it ran it ate up all my CPU ;-;
that's why I liked the old emulators, I could listen to music and just play Tetris Attack XD
>fat is beautiful
not on me it isn't
not actually true, even though I've lost 2-3 stone compared to my peak weight I still have pretty much zero cardiovascular stamina and end up wheezing and not being able to stand after climbing three standard flights of stairs to my lectures, because I can't jog etc.
Honestly, the people get all up in arms about fatties and health aren't the people who give a shit about smokers, which are fucking themselves up more.
Just admit you find it ugly. It's fine.
What I mean is, you care about a form of poor health which is visible, and unaesthetic, a lot more than you care about a kind which is worse but not as visible. Your revealed preferences indicate blah blah i'm too tired and don't really care since I'm skinny.
kek thought i might not be the only one who tried heroin.
polish life tbh
Oh is that the same moron who feigns concern for people's wellbeing when they state they're smoking 420 bluntweed 1280p noscope? That always gets me. Colorado should be an apocalypse according to some nerds opinions on substances.
trans women have the same shelf life... and it's more to like 25, sometimes longer (but probably not super model anymore).
after like 18 it's next to impossible to get a contract, most are recruited between 13-16 (and starts training then).
Shutins just mad because they don't have friends to do drugs with.
I'm glad can get joy from something as simple as accusing someone of being a junkie. Having an average IQ has its downsides
Awe, I can guess what it would be like, I have taken other opioids. They're not really my thing though.
i dont take heroin, it happened though. its fairly nromal to try it here, since its easier to obtain than weed.
i-i swear i did it only once fam. and got scared cause vomited and basicly passed out and still was best feeling ever. exactly the reason why i wont try again tbh - its too good.
I know weight doesn't matter when it comes to health. I'm going to quit smoking right now and start eating a big mac every time I would smoke and I will become the picture of health!
What if I smoke weed to help me sleep, as a pain reliever after a long day, or for personal recreational use on my weekends?
>Make sarcastic statement about someone's IQ
>Immediately bungle the grammar
>tall is pretty anyway
It is as long as you're not freakishly tall like 6'3 or some shit. 6'0 is well within the range of acceptable tall for female models. So if its good enough for them lol.