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someone from my uni's trans group keeps sharing stuff on facebook about how coming out of the closet is racist
Fine I killed mine
here's the main thing, it's not something they wrote but something they shared from some other profile
omg I just bought the cutest fucking top ever right now. I never knew the name for it until like an hour of looking. Anyone else have a Peplum top?
This anime is just a cheap ripoff of Kare Kano and all of you should be ashamed for liking it.
>How do trans people of colour "come out" of poverty?
>tfw will never be a degenerate hamster girl
Have a heart anon, it's cute and fun!
u wot m8
>tfw going to try to be a degenerate hamster girl for one day this month
I can dream
I can't. Your shit taste just brings me down.
What has anime turned into. It almost makes me want to cry.
that is a cute blouse, you are becoming official mtfg princess of progress
Kayla I have this exact shirt. It's what I'm wearing in this gif.
It's kind of hard to tell but the lining, just before it plumes out into that almost skirt looking bit, starts right above my belly button. It feels weird but I don't think it looks bad.
Well I never grew much facial hair to begin with, but to start out you want to cleanse your face and take a hot shower to open your pores, then use a loofah to get all the dead skin off where your gunna remove hair and then use a clean tweezer. What I do is only pluck a few hairs a day and use a hair preventative cream or moisturizer after I'm done plucking.
lonely right now
Depends on how thick your facial hair is.
If you've got a full, thick beard and you're epilating your face you're gonna fuck your face up. If you're just clearing up stuff after laser or you never grew a beard in the first place then tweezing is fine.
Don't pluck if you have a full face of facial hair. You can only get away with it if you have very little to begin with. It still hurts like hell though ;~;
>boss told me some colleague i barely see is trans aswell
>say hello, go drink a coffee with her
>she's also 46, i'm 21
>Ask her about private stuff, she asks me if i'm taken
>´nah i haven't found the right guy'
>she talks about how she likes me A LOT and if i need to get touched (or some bs like that)
>says she thought i was interested in her, she's going insane cause she's single
>have ignored her since
;_; why does this always happen to me?
We haven't mentioned being trans at all cause i would think it's rude... isn't it common for hons to talk about that 24/7 if they would notice?
Well I guess technically I still have internet. However, it's worst than having dial-up. It too me 70 minutes to get youtube to be anything but text, and it took about 10 minutes to post that post. My phone has shit service at home too, so I can't even use it.
Now I can't get the captcha to load. I've been trying since 2:45.
My nigga! I go out of my way to pick up those bottles any time I see them.
So say you'd try to tinder.. What the hell do you write?
>Hi, I like to act a bit childish
>I don't really go outside
>I actually haven't really experienced anything in life
>I'd like to try stuff out though, but because I get really anxious and uncomfortable around people, maybe not too social stuff right away
>I would also like it if you were my dream prince
>With that, I mean, you have to be adjusted, unlike me
Yeah, that's gonna work, for sure.
>But I think it will draw away from my shoulders and make my hips look wider though.
probably, but they're out of style now and they've always looked like maternity clothes anyways
AAAAAAHHHH I want a boy that I can rest my head on while he wraps his arms around me
someone get these lewd thoughts out of my headdddd
you have the height so probably fine irl
I know a petite cis gal sz xs top, like 5'2" but her arms are much bigger then mine, and I'm taller and kinda fit
also who /srslyneedstotidytheirroom/ here?
>but they're out of style now and they've always looked like maternity clothes anyways
If one of the "drawbacks" is looking like an expecting mother then that is a good thing imo
Or I could just watch whatever I enjoy, given that's the point.
in any case it's better than using the dong that is hanging between you're legs right now.
I'm sorry anon, I just pretend to be functioning.
How on earth do I buy some cute clothes with terrible anxiety which eats me alive whenever I try to enter a busy shop?
First that graphic novels in the library business and now animu body pillows. I am left speechless.
Grit your teeth and bear it.
The pillow is ridiculous, that one's yours and I deserve it, but I will fight you over the value of graphic novels. I feel like last time you seemed to imply they were just super heros, and I feel like you've missed out on a lot of really great work done in that medium.
that sounds quite hot tbh. Also I live in an opium den not a thai ladyboy lair. Although I guess I could add some thai lady boys to the mix. Hmm.. thanks anon for the idea!
how the fuck does the delivery guy know who lives with you?
also if you can't even work up the nerves to do that then I feel like you're never going to be able to actually transition
They have seen so much shit. Like unbelievably stupid, embarrassing shit. You won't even register on their weird-o-meter.
There was some retarded trip from Sweden who used to greet delivery personnel naked. Someone who actually worked as courier told us that's the height of 2nd hand embarrassment.
Yes, Yes I am
I fail in life so hard... ;_;
I don't even do that I merely explain shit and no one listens to it so it devolves to shitposting but thats 4chan in a nutshell.
eh?! I thought you like me ;_;
Most of those graphic novels suck. Even the best ones would barely warrant a look if they were novels. Also was /cgl any help? They have a tendency to take it too far.
Thing is, I order drugs online also, yet I can't get my shit together to get stupid clothes...
I simply want order and knowledge to be loosed onto the masses.
one time my mail man delivered my rabbit but when he handed it to me I dropped it and it fell out. We had a good laugh and then fucked. Oh wait that never happened.
I am a sucker for anything that even remotely tries to pull at heart strings so I might just have shit taste but I cried for like 30 pages reading Funhome.
Also /cgl/ was so intimidating I was afraid to even post my question. They're so hardcore but thanks for reminding me to lurk there more. I think I can learn a lot from them if I can ever catch up to that high-tier make up use.
hot topic has cute stuff you goofball
I'll just do it, I can always kill myself if things go wrong...
H&M and Forever 21 have cute clothes for really cheap though
Good I guess, I mean the only thing I have to really worry about is cleaning out the lube after I'm done which is easy. I guess somtimes I wet my panties after I get aroused but panty liners fixes that issue.
Hoo boy more classes next semester 12 pm to 8pm classes : |
Yo ive realized recently that I am a girl. I really don't know much about how to deal with this. Do you think it's worth transitioning if you don't think you'd eventually look passable? I want men to be attracted to me and not deride me...I'm scared to start anything because I feel like I'm going to be ugly in the eyes of the people I desire affection from. Anyone here have some advice or experience, or whatever?
>Do you think it's worth transitioning if you don't think you'd eventually look passable?
Just how much basis does this belief have in reality? In general the answer is likely yes it's worth it because even minimal effort and self-care can change a lot of shit.
b-but there's so many things that can go wrong...
I live with my mum and her boyfriend who I don't really know that much...
Worried he wouldn't be too happy knowing I'm a fag :/
Just about everyone in this thread has experience. And i know its scary, but if you're trans, you'll transition no matter what. It'll be hard. You'll hate sme things. But i promise you no matter what, it's all worth it.
>but the dresses they sell are well made.
That doesn't mean they look good, I seriously can't imagine anyone wearing hot topic past middle school ages
I am not going to lie, being trans is hard as fuck. Looking pretty is only half the battle too, honestly most guys don't want to be with us because we are trans. Even a lot of my post op friends bitch about how hard it is to find someone who wants to be with them. Don't get me wrong, it is easy to find someone to fuck us, but it is much harder to find someone who wants to be with us long term. Some girls are lucky though. Best of luck and if you are trans you will transition, but don't have any false exceptions on how difficult it is.
Stop being the fashion police. I never got to dress as a teenage girl so what if I am experimenting with my style?
more like you can't see how dumb you are, I'm sowry.
fuck off? that isn't very lady like, elanna. nice job showing your hon level off without even showing a pic.
it's not a meme, and you know it. mtf + anime girl = AGP
people aren't dumb because they hate you, miku. that's called being normal. your so far gone that you can't even tell the difference anymore.
>"wearing clothes they're too old for" phase.
>accuses people of being hons
>unironically uses the term "ladylike"
Stay salty :^)
There's tons of options that are targeted at young women. Nobody's saying you have to dress down, just that you're wearing clothes for people that are 10 years younger than you.
It's fun until you realise you stick out like a sore thumb. Then the party's over ;~;
diff. anon, my level of dysphoria doesn't warrant transitioning and the brutal life that trans people endure
I admire trutrans people like yourself
I've gotten far in my presentation, but I doubt I'll go trans
We are going in circles. You are dumb because you can't realize that most of my posts are about explaining the transsexual condition and you just meme and say I shit post and think I have shit reading comprehension when my responses to those shit posts are supposed to be satirical. Regarding my previous 2 posts here I know what you said, but my point is you can't see by what you said you admitted you are dumb. It is you that is to far gone.
>trutrans people like yourself
Oh anon don't make me blush!
Seriously though, I hope you know trutrans isn't a real thing. It's just a joke. There's plenty of reasons to transition, and plenty of reasons not to. They're all pretty much valid. Do whatever it is you need to do to feel happy.
tfw it's finally cool enough outside to comfortably wear this autistic lanaya shirt i got at ti5
>some furry girl shit
The chippettes are serious business.
oh boy here we go again
Getting pumped for fargo tonight. ;~;
But then I see this. I don't know. I get what they're going for, but this new season's vibe is not really fargoesque tbh. ;~; It's funnier and not as dark.
Aww you called my cock a magic wand
My rugged sexual skills are that of a jackrabbit.
WAM WAM WAM WAM WAM WAM
in and out in and out
Sometimes I even stick my teeth out and go UHHH UH UH UHHH UMMmmm...
Than we go awkwardly our separate paths than I have to leave the social group because I literally fuck like a jackrabbit
>its not on in the uk until next week
allie pls DONT talk or post about it until next week DO IT FOR MEEEE
So I am back from my endocrinologist. He is starting me out on .5mg estradiol and a 25mg dose of spiro as well but didn't specify that.
Isn't .5mg a day extremely low? I figured I would be starting out at around 2 or 4mg a day and work my way up to 6 or 8 after the first 3 months or so.
omg erin why don't you just pirate it or something then? ;~;
you're going to be a whole week behind me. We'l;l never be able to talk about the show.
im at uni on uni internet and i suspect that my it department is competent sooo i dont want to risk it
im sorry allie it has to be this wayyyyy
talk to me tho on skype like rn
>work my way up to 6 or 8 after the first 3 months or so
6 and 8mgs are extremely high doses for estrogen, 2mg is the average and that's probably what you're working up to.
25mg for spiro is low but it's not an uncommon first dose and I'm assuming you're supposed to double it after two weeks, that's what I did.
use an extremely light concealer stick and rub it all over the area, apply foundation over it and then a powder buff
I have bad shadow to sadly so that's how I learned from my sisters when they did my makeup yesterday
Alright ladies I have a job officially
Talked my way into thinking im an American hero which I am defending all you and you all bully me.
So ungrateful such bad little princesses people like me dying so you can be who you are and not even a single shred of gratitude.
Not that I ever posted here anyway besides two posts
>2mg is the average
>6mg is high
My endo has me on 6, I was getting hot flashes on 4mg.
2mg is definitely not the average, the average is more around 4mg, but it strongly depends on how well your gut actually absorbs estradiol.
25mg for spiro is fucking nothing. 50mg for spiro is fucking nothing. Are you self medicating?
Have fun being shot at
This is my favorite thing about fall/winter, besides clothes, and cuddles and fires.
wow, I could have NEVER done that at that point.I'm 10 days shy of a year and I've been on 6mg estradiol and 100mg spiro daily the whole time. Not until at least 7 months in did I feel comfortable dressing as a woman and actually confronting people about my gender identity. I'm STILL super anxious about it and my mother still calls me by my old male name because she's a cunt.
I fucking applaud you girl!
2-3mg for estrogen is the average, you usually don't need more unless you're older or have really high testosterone levels or something because after a certain threshold (which vary's by individual) upping estrogen dose won't do anything except put you at greater risk for the side effects
my spiro dose is low at 50mg a day but I'm low test to begin with, and the anon's I was responding to can always be doubled again.
and I'm not self-medicating, no doctor who knows what they're doing is going to start you off at 100mg+ spiro or 4mg+ estrogen
What? No I'm not presenting
I'm 100% boy mode, but my endo's office is in a very clearly labeled "women's center" so that's where I go
I just accept the fact that anyone who sees me alone there knows exactly why I'm there
who /lunch/ here?
see I'ved been on 6mg estro and 100mg spiro the whole time i've been on mones and I started when I was 26. I've had next to no side effects but it is a little hard to tell the difference between a bipolar mood swing and a estrogen moodswing. Seriously they feel exactly the same >.<
I'm happy w/ my doc though, Howard Brown Health Center is one of the best LGBTQ centers in the world! I owe them my life.
What are your levels?
I've never run across somebody that was medically supervised who was on that little. I even know somebody who was on as much as 8mg and still couldn't get their blood levels up, and they weren't exactly old.
>dying for israel
someone identifying with and avatarfagging as yuno
how unique and original
never before done in the history of 4chan
if you counted all the namefags and tripfags that have done that before, you would find absolutely 0
because it's never been done before
a simple cheeseburger can be a great meal.
if i get one from fast food i like to get in and out and surprisingly dell taco makes a great burger too.
You're an idiot you know you're talking to Maki right?
>not defending the chosen people
Im converting to jewdyism when in the navy btw unironically
Alright im out ladies just wanted to say hey to my princesses than leave
I love all of you
Im a chaser the only thing I hold is feels
>tfw ffs worked in your favor and people still hate you
Everything is coming up milhouse
>and surprisingly dell taco makes a great burger too
How did you know that? Yeah I love the double dell burger, for some reason its really good. I only get meat cheese and bun, I don't have veggies on my burgers EVER, then I dip them in a heap of ketchup.
Never had that, I like this winter drink though.
>you will never date kayla
>you will never make her laugh after a tough day of dysphoria and riding bikes
I'm buying a motorcycle soon fam
Probably going to be a moped though
>I don't have veggies on my burgers EVER, then I dip them in a heap of ketchup.
kayla you're like the quintessential american tomato
>You are a woman. Your upbringing has provided you an advantage in speed and intellect.
... does.. does it still apply if I wasn't brought up as a woman?
>what is your gift
Triggered. This is going to be fun.
idk that one. The only reason cranberry sierra mist is a winter drink though is because I think they only release it for half a year. What makes that one a winter drink?
besides the fact that i'm a poor conversationalist. i just like adding people and having them as contacts.
i collect friends like i collect pokemon.
I am in the dorms and I get stuff from Amazon all the time here. The box isn't marked "GRILL CLOTHES INSIDE BTW UR A FGGT", it looks like any other package from Amazon. The mailman probably won't even know what is inside the box.
That sounds amazing
What's the best stuff to wear if you were dealt the unfortunate card if 6'3" and yet still want to pass? For that matter, where is the best place to shop for tall woman's clothes? Looking to get some stuff for Fall/Winter.
I'm so hot for a hamburger right now.
So since apparently my endocrinologist is retarded, what do I do? Do I call him and tell him that I talked to my therapist and she thought my doses were extremely low for someone just starting out or do I find another guy and wait a few weeks to start again or what?
It would be awkward calling his office and basically saying hey guy you're wrong!
>tfw stoya has bigger tits than you
>mother can barely stand me for being a dropout shutin
>constantly passive aggressive and getting into fights
>get mad at her for not talking to me
>she gets mad and justifies not talking to me because I get mad at her for not talking to me
how do I go from NEET highschool dropout shutin to living on my own and having a job in an expensive city? my mother will likely blow her brains out if I don't get a job or move out or something. I was going to tell her about transitioning and getting on HRT to see if she would drive me to the clinic and shit but at this point I just want to get away from everything and be in solitude. Unfortunately in this economy I doubt ill be able to do that and if I want to move out I'd need roommates and shit.
God everything is so fucked.
You really need to do something about those bare brick walls. It's like you're posting from the death row in some SuperMax.
Just plaster it with animu posters or something equally childish.
Don't really care about that tbh. Pretty is judged differently by different people, beauty is in the eye of the beholder yada yada.
She's pretty damn gorgeous though, I agree.
I know it's atrocious. I guess I just need to get a bunch of posters or something. I'd prefer paintings but... maybe one month I'll use my spending money on that instead
I was just joking. Being a librarian, in all likelihood you are making peanuts (and I apologize if that is not the case). There's probably something better you can spend your hard earned money on.
Talk about something fuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn
I'm bored, and maybe I should go to bed.
But god, I'm like, horny all the time. Whenever I go to bed I think about stuff, and when I wake up I think about stuff... During the day I think about stuff.
I didn't notice
Maybe that's because she has a menacing look to her.
Like she's not really intimidating but the pics of her online are lewd and she looks slutty as fuck.
Her features are really pleasant otherwise.
You can always lie about being a high school graduate. I used to do that when I was still in high school. They never check because there isn't some huge database and just say you have itv at home if they ask but name it sound like you don't give a shit about it.
If you pick a phone center job because of how comfy it is you'll always find losers that have no ambition ot any drive to make themselves better.
Also theres light industrial temp agencies which are good just for quick money now
Just show effort and your mom will be happy i believe in you
>on diet of 1800 or less kcal per day for three weeks so far, personal metabolic base rate is 2227 kcal
>1.5 to 2 hours swimming every other day
>had 3 nosebleeds swimming so far because it takes so much exertion for me to swim properly, if I have another I get barred for a while
>have another one tonight actually but manage to hide it by running for the toilets
>check stats afterwards tonight
>I've only lost < 1 kg and only a third of that is fat
what the fuck?
>packing bag after changing
>drop noseplug by accident
>take nearly a dozen tries to pick it up because I keep missing or dropping it again due to poor coordination and grip
>look like a fucking shitty arcade claw
>three dudebros standing nearby looking at me with mild confusion
I hate being me.
Thank you you're sweet... I'm actually on month 4 of hrt this month and I'm 25 years old.
Oh no, jokes aside you're totally right. It's depressing in here. If I budgeted better I could afford better stuff and save a bit, but right now I blow my pay check on electro, pizza and clothes. I bought some cheap furniture last month but I still don't have a couch.
And honestly this is the best paying job I've ever had, and it pays okay but nothing fancy of course. It's the benefits that really do it for me though. Without this insurance and paid leave it'd be a lot harder. Still, I wouldn't do anything else.
I used to swim lots. Key to fixing that is learning to control your breathing. After that the rest becomes much easier.
What you need is to find the easiest job to attain whatever it may be and realize that life isn't going to be easy. Theres no list of jobs specially made for you.
You find one based on what you can get use that money to get something better and talk your way into moving up
Inbounds so much worse tbh. I worked in customer service for six months it was insane.
I worked outbound harassing people for surveys and it was the most comfy greatest job ever. I had to quit because I got drunk and fought my coworkers thouh
You're only month 4?
I thought you were on it forx years