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Serious Talk about Depression 2017-09-08 02:44:53 Post No.8834954
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Serious Talk about Depression
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How do you people deal with depression, indulced by meds, dysphoria or even genetically?
I've been depressed for forever. Not like one of those retarded attwhores and they fucking "look at me i'm a sad hipster" thing, but serious existential depression.
I always tried to live a normal life based on society beliefs, but never knew what was the point. I've gone through school, lots of extra courses and now i'm at college, but i feel like i'm just following some road because my only choice is walking. I'll keep walking, doesn't matter how much pain i'm feeling. Otherwise i would be sitting in my bed, with my parents screaming at me, and i don't want that.
Some people look for hobbies and social interactions to escape from this, in my situation it's the opposite, i kind of enjoy my hobbies and friends but sometimes the depression prevents me from living. It's the same fucking pain i feel inside, the sensation of eternal angst, not counting the social anxiety and bdd/body dysphoria.
I'll keep going on because i'm not allowed to have this pain. There's lots of people in worse situations. I must hold my head high and keep moving. Doesn't matter how pointless it is. Hopefully with hrt, i'll find some glint of happiness somehow. I plan to end my life when i'm 30, and secretly hope i find a reason to don't do it. SSRIs didn't really help, the aphaty they indulce is worse than the depression itself.
So, how are you feeling, /lgbt/? How do you cope with sadness? Get it off your chest. No one will judge you here.
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thinking of taking all my ativan and jumping tonight
typing is hard because im so full of rage and misery
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>>8834954
I lapse into resentment and spite.
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There is nothing you can do to stop the misery. We are born into imperfection. We live in a sinful and impure world.
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AI GAYDAR: Neural Networks Predict Homosexuality Better Than Humans! 2017-09-08 02:44:28 Post No.8834952
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AI GAYDAR: Neural Networks Predict Homosexuality Better Than Humans!
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>"Deep neural networks are more accurate than humans at detecting sexual orientation from facial images."
https://psyarxiv.com/hv28a/
>We show that faces contain much more information about sexual orientation than can be perceived and interpreted by the human brain. We used deep neural networks to extract features from 35,326 facial images. These features were entered into a logistic regression aimed at classifying sexual orientation. Given a single facial image, a classifier could correctly distinguish between gay and heterosexual men in 81% of cases, and in 74% of cases for women. Human judges achieved much lower accuracy: 61% for men and 54% for women. The accuracy of the algorithm increased to 91% and 83%, respectively, given five facial images per person. Facial features employed by the classifier included both fixed (e.g., nose shape) and transient facial features (e.g., grooming style). Consistent with the prenatal hormone theory of sexual orientation, gay men and women tended to have gender-atypical facial morphology, expression, and grooming styles. Prediction models aimed at gender alone allowed for detecting gay males with 57% accuracy and gay females with 58% accuracy. Those findings advance our understanding of the origins of sexual orientation and the limits of human perception. Additionally, given that companies and governments are increasingly using computer vision algorithms to detect people’s intimate traits, our findings expose a threat to the privacy and safety of gay men and women.
If someone came out with an photo-based 'gaydar' app, would you use it?
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Funny I am mtf and I look like a gay woman even though I am into men. I also wear glasses tbqh.
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>>8834952
>If someone came out with an photo-based 'gaydar' app, would you use it?
Yes, yes I would. Though that gay motherfucker is ugly and camp-looking vs the straight guy, so I may also try to alter my face shape to look less gay myself.
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>>8834952
Enough gay guys had glasses that it faintly shows up on the composite.
Gays confirmed for vision impaired
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Does /nofap/ have advantages for mtfs?
I'm post op but I still have a prostate so I'm wondering if I'd still get the positive mental effects from not masturbating?
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>>8834930
she looks like crap and is likely not passing on a daily basis, but look at the fucking face. She is acually smiling
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your prostate at this point is nearly pointless, after so much hrt
I don't think there's really any truth behind the nofap thing, unless you're just addicted to masturbating
the whole point of it is to make you go out and try and get laid to satisfy your libido rather than just sitting on a dildo
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>>8835129
Pisses you off to see happy people, doesn't it?
I LOVE it when I get that reaction from people. She looks happy af, and you're here whining.
>getting groceries with mom
>come up to trans cashier
>purple dyed hair and fake woman voice, name 'Luna'
>really doesn't pass but might be okay from 10 ft away in peripheral vision
>we smile and get our groceries
>right as we're out of earshot mom goes "What an UGLY woman! What the hell is wrong with them?"
>I say she's a tranny
>mom goes "Duh!"
>Loudly complains all the way to car about how ugly they were
I felt bad but at the same time I can't wrap my mind around why anyone would do that to themselves. This is just my mom, too, one person after a day of serving probably 100. I couldn't imagine being the daily laughing stock for random people after doing something as basic as cashiering...
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>>8834610
>What an UGLY woman!
Jesus christ, I probably actually do pass. They're not hugboxing me after all....
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>>8834610
Youre momy is a cunt.
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>>8834639
t. AGP hon
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>tfw straight and not a bi/gay degenerate therefore going to Heaven
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>>8834343
>comfortable enough to post on the gay board
Okay, homo
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>>8834349
traps aren't really gay desu, it's written on the Bible somewhere
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>Heaven: eternal slavery where you're forced to worship the prick that made you relenquish self indulgence on earch
>Hell: eternity spent laughing at the dicks in heaven with a likeminded master who couldn't stand that God prick, because why the fuck would היללさま hate us for being on his side?
Hmm, yeah. You've got it all figured out, OP.
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Any other bisexual people feel like they go through phases of being straighter / gayer than usual or is it just me?
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>>8834140
I cycle through such sentiments as well.
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Yeah like some days I'll wake up and just feel more attracted to guys than normal. Not just you.
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>>8834140
yeah
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Straight mtfs here, would you break up with your boyfriend if he ever came out as trans?
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Yes absolutely
I'm the woman in our relationship
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>>8833288
I'd have to see his dick first. If it looks like patchwork, no fucking way.
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>>8833288
yeah honestly
I love him but I have a line and a limit
a part of our dynamic is based around me being feminine and him being masculine
i'd still be his good friend and support him with my experience but I wouldn't stay with him
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Ok so, I decided to go lurk on some other places where trannies gather, reddit, etc and for some reason, the great majority of them were "lesbians".
I thought it was just something from this board because of anime and shit but what the fuck.
Am I the only one who likes to get dicked in here?
Why there's so little het trannies out there? Like jesus fuck.
>/r/transtimelines
>/r/trans
>/r/MtF
>/r/asktransgender/
All filled with transbians.
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>>8832691
Isn't MtF sexuality basically roughly a 30% bi, 30% les, 20% het, 20% other distribution? Seems okay to me desu.
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>>8832691
Autogynephilia. Most trannies are just straight men.
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Confirmation bias maybe? Het is lower than average, but les isn't majority
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New to /tttt/
Can someone give me a quick guide to the tripfags here (preferably with pictures)?
There seems to be a lot of hate directed at this Cara person for some reason.
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>Robin is an unpassing MtF who is generally nice.
>Aphrodite is an attention whore in pass threads.
>Samantha is an attention whore in pass threads and will split a single post into like 2-3 because reasons.
>Survey anon will collect data, ignore the inconvenient data, then use the remaining data to support pseudoscience
>Cade is some vampire fetishist
>Carth roleplays as the Carthaginian and is a black + ugly as fuck MtF chaser
>Curehon / Cureanon is a person, not a trip, who denies scientific evidence and advocates for repressing as a cure for gender dysphoria. Obsessed with nofap and was so annoying that even /repgen/ is fed up
>Caraposter formerly avatarfagged as Cara, but now LWA anime faces, and stalked Nicole Maines at the University of Maine. Cara has a restraining order imposed and may not talk about Nicole Maines. Cara is transitioning MtF and obsessed with early transitioners and blanchardism
>Trent is now gone but was a FtM also obsessed with blanchard's typology and blogspots as evidence. Paid for Cara's HRT then abandoned Cara for not being interesting enough.
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>>8832574
Here is a picture of Cara.
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>>8832550
Cara used to be a creepy chaser and now she's a creepy tranny that's obsessed with some old psychologist that runs a creepy Youtube channel.
shit is wack dawg
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Dear Cureanon,
Let's have a little chat, shall we?
Critics of trans rights often cite "the Swedish study" showing elevated suicide rates among trans people. To start, trans suicide statistics are typically lifetime, which includes pre-transition. Post-transition suicide rates are dramatically lower however, as can be seen in studies such as Kuiper et al., 1988. On the "Swedish" study itself, critics blatantly misrepresent the nature and the conclusions of the research. They are correct in noting that post-transition trans people have elevated mortality and suicide rates, but only if they transitioned before 1989 and only compared to the general population, rather than compared to pre-transition trans folks. The study in question, by Dhejne C et al., notes that there is no such difference in suicidality among the post-1989 cohort, as well as asserting:
"Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."
To put it simply, the study calls for the continued therapy of those who transitioned before 1989. Branching off from this, critics then claim that there aren't any trans-positive studies. While no study can ever be 100% conclusive, here's a sample of some of the research on trans people:
Heylans et al., 2014: "A difference in SCL-90 [a test of distress, anxiety, and hostility] overall psychoneurotic distress was observed at the different points of assessments (P = 0.003), with the most prominent decrease occurring after the initiation of hormone therapy (P < 0.001)...Furthermore, the SCL-90 scores resembled those of a general population after hormone therapy was initiated."
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Colizzi et al., 2013: "At enrollment, transsexuals reported elevated CAR ['cortisol awakening response', a physiological measure of stress]; their values were out of normal. They expressed higher perceived stress and more attachment insecurity, with respect to normative sample data. When treated with hormone therapy [at followup, 1 year after beginning HRT], transsexuals reported significantly lower CAR (P < 0.001), falling within the normal range for cortisol levels. Treated transsexuals showed also lower perceived stress (P < 0.001), with levels similar to normative samples."
At this point, critics will state that anorexics are also happier as they become thinner, or give some other similar argument. "It's still giving in to a mental disorder!" Looking at the research however, it's a brain body mismatch.
From Swaab and Bao, Neuroscience in the 21st Century, 2013: "Gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender), sexual orientation (hetero-, homo-, or bisexuality) ... are programmed into our brain during early development. There is no evidence that postnatal social environments have any crucial effect on gender identity or sexual orientation."
From Jürgensen, et al., Journal of Pediatric Endocrinology and Metabolism, 2010: "There is strong evidence that high concentrations of [prenatal] androgens lead to more male-typical behavior and that this also influences gender identity."
According to these and other doctors, transgender identities appear to be a genuine mismatch between gendered characteristics and neurological phenotypes that delevop prenatally. For those who claim that gender is merely a social construct, there's also research against that.
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From Chung and Auger, European Journal of Physiology, 2013: "Gender-dependent differentiation of the brain has been detected at every level of organization -- morphological, neurochemical, and functional -- and has been shown to be primarily controlled by sex differences in gonadal steroid hormone levels during perinatal development."
While partially addressed above, to further debunk the claim of treatment not being effective, let's revisit the suicide statistics of trans people. As a reminder, most post-transition suicide statistics look at lifetime risk, rather than post-transition risk only, while the following research does exactly the opposite. Kuiper B. et al., 1988 reported a 0% suicide attempt rate post surgery for trans women, and 6% for trans men. As for the suicide rates pre-op: the UK's Mental Health Review Journal, 1996 cites an 84% suicidal ideation and 48% lifetime prevalence of suicide attempts, Crystal Boza and Kathryn Perry, 2014, report 44% for Australia, and Jay McNeil et al., 2013, reports Ireland at 80% ideation and 40% attempt. Even you don't care about transgender people's well-being however, you can at least count on treatment being cost-effective for society according to an analysis reported by MNT, 2015.
Even though transition is effective and trans people are psychologically the gender they claim to be, the final critique made is that trans people are never physically the gender they claim to be. This can be disproven with 2 simple agreements: one, all women who are born women should be considered women; and two, sex/gender is determined by primary sex characteristics, secondary sex characteristics, hormones, and chromosomes. These are points virtually everyone will agree on.
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Putting this together, all women who are born women should be considered women. this means that even women who have xy chromosomes, which are not tested for or apparent at birth, should be considered women. if women with xy chromosomes are still women, then women do not have to meet all the standards specified by agreement 2, only most of them. Furthermore, most would agree that a man who lost his penis in an accident would still be a man, which further validates this amendment to agreement 2.
After transition, a transwoman would be female partially in terms of primary sex characteristics (assuming srs), entirely in terms of secondary sex characteristics, entirely in terms of hormones, but not at all on a genetic basis. If two of the requirements specified by agreement 2 are met, and one of the requirements is partially met, then by the logical amendment to agreement two, made because agreements one and two are partially conflicting, transwomen would be women. The same argument can be made for transmen by replacing the word "woman" with "man".
To cover any lose ends, the American College of Pediatricians is just an anti-gay and anti-trans activist group that tries to confuse people into thinking it is the American Academy of Pediatrics, the name of the actual organization. There is a full critique of Cretella, the president of the American College of Pediatricians, in the sources. Also, comparing pre-transition data to post-transition data, post-transition transwomen have almost exactly the same difference in power output seen when comparing elite non-trans female and non-trans male athletes, although transwomen likely retain an advantage in contact sports due to heavier bone frame.
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Can you tranny faggots stop doing shit like this. How are the rest of us normal trannies going to get any respect holy shit
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if you cant beat em join em?
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>>8831807
I'm a cis gay man and I do that too
Stfu
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>>8831812
You're a degenerate amongst degenerates... congrats.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/12-year-old-boy-trans-female-change-mind-years-later-patrick-mitchell-australia-oestrogen-hormones-a7933741.html
>12-year-old boy who transitioned to female changes his mind 2 years later
>At just 12-years-old, Patrick Mitchell, begged with his mother to begin taking oestrogen hormones after doctors diagnosed him with gender dysphoria – a condition where a person experiences distress because there is a mismatch between their biological sex and gender identity.
>“You wish you could just change everything about you, you just see any girl and you say I'd kill to be like that”, Mitchell told 60 Minutes.
>After heeding advice from professionals who suggested that it was right choice, his mother was fully supportive and Mitchell began to transition.
>He grew out his hair and started to take the hormones, which caused his body to grow breasts. But two years on, Mitchell had a change of heart.
>In the beginning of 2017, teachers at school began to refer to him as a girl which triggered Mitchell to question if he had made the right decision.
>“I began to realise I was actually comfortable in my body. Every day I just felt better,”
>As a result, Mitchell confided in his mother and explained that he wanted to transition back into a boy.
>“He looked me in the eye and said ‘I'm just not sure that I am a girl’”, his mother explained.
>Now, in a bid to revert back to his original body, he has stopped taking his medication and is about to have an operation to remove excess breast tissue in what will be the final stage of his transition.
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calling it now
>gets to age 20s
>"I regret everything"
>Why did I stop
still tho, locking it in for those two years might prevent hondom
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>12 year old
Well no shit he changed his mind.
Fuck this childhood transition agenda
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>>8831493
yeah, we need more suicidal late transitioner hons in the world
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/femgen/ - old man edition 2017-09-07 08:48:20 Post No.8831332
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/femgen/ - old man edition
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Will you still be a qt fem like Shinya when you're an old man?
>What is a femboy?
An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. Most are gay.
>Are femboys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
>Can I be a femboy?
It's possible. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
>Should I go on HRT?
Your choice. You'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man. There's more info in the pastebin.
>Is liking femboys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
>Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/BKqL0usb
>Discord links
https://pastebin.com/GJg6V6Yq
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13879247
http://www.strawpoll.me/13879247
http://www.strawpoll.me/13879247
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>>8831332
I just want a cute femboy gf to cuddle and worship. That's all I want in this world.
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>>8831938
the strawpoll has no connection to the 4chan.
/tttt/ is pretty lax as well
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Any people in nola looking to join a tranny cliqe 2017-09-07 07:57:01 Post No.8831208
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Any people in nola looking to join a tranny cliqe
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So I started the Nola tranny squad kind of out of desperation, you see most of the lgbt community is filled with crazy cucks that cant except any other opinion than the ones they enforce and tried to make friends in the only trans chat room for nola and was pretty much swarmed and kicked out once they had found out my political opinions... So I made this group for people in new orleans to make friends in a politically neutral environment
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can i be the leader?
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Here is my AD
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wtf is Nola
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Was Margaret Tatcher a LGBT icon?
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>>8831103
is that picture supposed to be funny?
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>>8831103
She is why women should be allowed to stand for office even though they shouldn't get the vote.
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>>8831103
>Margaret Thatcher
>Pro-LGTB
Pick one.