I always wanted to write one of these but the recent influx of, “Halp, /lgbt/ I think I might be homosex” threads made me finally get off my ass and write it. So here’s a short (lol) rundown on how to gay.
This is going to be broken up into several parts. Ask questions below, and if something doesn’t pertain to you specifically, mention it and someone will comment on your special snowflake scenario and call you a niggerfaggot shortly.
>I might be gay/bi? How do I know for sure?
We don’t even know, anon. There’s no TL;DR for this. Some people claim they know at an early age, it hits others around puberty (my case specifically), and sometimes, people don’t realize it until they’re way into college. Basically, the fact that you’re 16 (lol underage B&) or even 24 and still struggling with this doesn’t mean much.
>So what can I do?
Basically you ride the wave and wait it out. But this can (read: /may/) lead to some pent up stress and sometimes make you do stupid things like fap in a public restroom with a trucker named Joe. I’ll talk more about this in a bit.
>So basically, you can’t help me?
Nope. And nobody on this board can. But we can help you understand it a little better so you don’t feel like shit all the time.
>Why the fuck am I reading this then?
Well, do you have any specific questions?
>Umm.. alright. I only fap to traps, androgynous dudes, and/or twinks. I’m still straight, right?
If only dudes get you going, you’re gay. If you’re also turned on by women, you’re bi.
>On that subject, guys REALLY get me going. More than women. Does this mean I’m more gay?
Not necessarily, but it could. Guys may be sort of forbidden fruit to you still. So it’s likely that you’re turned on by the new experience the same way you might get when you discover a new kink you didn’t know you liked.
(move away from the mic to breathe in)
>Wait, hold up. You don’t understand. I only like feminine dudes. Exclusively.
I hear this a lot but it doesn’t change much. One angle I rarely see people mention is that this could be your age. I know I wasn’t attracted to mid 20’s scruffy bachelor dudes when I was 18. But that’s my kinda guy right now (call me, boys). Also, this could always just be personal preference. Some gay dudes choke at the sight of twinks. Others won’t get hard if the guy isn’t black. The fact remains: you like men and masculine features. Ass, backs, navels, and even cocks. You’re bi, man. Maybe even gay.
>Alright, okay. What the fuck can I DO though?
My best advice still, is to sit on it. If you’re not emotionally ready to admit that you’re not straight or outright admit that you’re bi/gay, you’re not emotionally ready for the aftermath of buttsecks. It may seem like this is the most important thing in your life right now but that’s only because of what I mentioned earlier, the curiosity for it is what’s driving you. Level yourself first, then we can talk about getting you laid.
>*breathe* Alright, I’m ready.
Fine. There’s a multitude of ways to get you D, but the best one by far right now if you’re a closet case, is craigslist (assuming amerifag. Sorry, rest of the world. Can’t help you, bro). Most people forego this route because of the occasional pic collectors and endless emails but these guy’s are seasoned pros. You’re not. You’re going to have to deal with this. Yes, Grindr is much quicker but if you’re worried about someone seeing your picture on there, it might not be the best choice. For the love of god, don’t start a Jack’d or Grindr account if you don’t have the balls to put up /at least/ a body pic (even that’s frowned upon). No one will talk to you. Use craigslist. You’re from 4chan. I have high faith that you’re able to spot trolls/fakes relatively easily. Don’t let me down, anon. Use common sense.
(cont)
>What do I say? Should I post? or respond to someone?
If someone’s ad interests you, go for it. The proper etiquette is to send a face pic and tell them your location. However, because pic collectors are real, I’d say you should post an ad yourself. Specify that you’re not willing to send a face pic but you’d but okay sending a body pic if that’s the case. If you’re not willing to send any pic at all, you better have a charisma modifier higher than 5, son. Play up the fact that you’re straight (even though we have established that you’re not) and mention how this would be your first time. Assuming you live in a decent sized city, the responses should come rolling in.
>Can you draft one for me really quick?
What the fuck am I, your maid? Fine.
“Straight Guy. Really Curious.
Been sitting on this for a while and I want to try something with a guy. Oral preferred but open to more. Normal, sane, dude here for nsa fun. Please be hwp, ddf, and decent looking. Let’s keep the emails short and your body pic gets mine. Playing safe is a must. If this add is still up, I’m still looking. Tittysprinkles.”
Add some basic stats, maybe specify what you’re looking for a little better (don’t go overboard, use the rule of three), and remember that /you/ should also be cutting back on how many emails you send. Pics usually get traded on first email, specifications (sometimes additional requests: kinks, clean your ass, who’s topping) get mentioned in the second, and info is traded on the third.
>nsa? hwp? ddf? what?
Lurk more.
>W-What if… I want to bottom?
That’s cool, bruh. But unforch, that’s another can of worms that needs it’s own thread. If you’re asking if this makes you gayer? Nah, not really. There’s straight dudes that ride their girlfriend’s strap-ons into the sunset. It has little to do with you being homosex/bisex and more to do with you realizing that it feels incredible to have something in your pooper.
>Okay. No. I can’t do this. Nope. No way.
The bottoming thing? Dude, that’s fine.
>No, I just can’t do the gay thing.
See, that’s why I told you to wait. You’re not ready emotionally.
>No, it’s not that. I just don’t think I can buttsecks.
Whaaaaaat?
>Can I just not do this shit? I’m bisexual. I know I am. I’ll just get a girlfriend and fap to guys on the internet occasionally. That’s all. Nothing needs to happen.
Oh yeah, dude, no doubt. But this goes back to what I said earlier, too. If you bottle that shit in and never let it out, you’re going to have a bad time. I can’t stress this enough, man. The best thing to do is to wait until you know you’re ready. You’ll know when. Until then, fap furiously away. Discover what you do and do not like. Don’t be too closed minded about things. You’ll definitely know when it’s time to strap in your seatbelt and ride the hershey highway.
>You don’t understand. I just DON’T want this.
Okay, I’ll bite. People don’t want a lot of shit, man. You think people born blind wouldn’t kill to see? What about being a midget? You don’t think that shit sucks? Also, I promise you that no herps like to derp. The best thing you can do is own it. Assuming you got all your limbs and are otherwise healthy, you got off easy. Being gay or bi isn’t the worst thing in the world. In fact it’s getting easier to be homosex. Get off the self-pity train, find yourself a dude to cuddle with, and just let this notion go, man. I promise it’ll feel like the best thing in the world.
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last time on mtfg: >>3263021
>>3265325
like kyubey
>>3265342
Cute :3c
jeelllyyyffiiiissssshhh eeedddiiitttiiioonnnnn
and other qt sea creatures
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zzzzzzzz >>3255401
>>3259083
first for atleast im not this guy
>>3259098
yet....
Why do people hate trans people that much and want to kill us? Are they that afraid of being "trapped" and thinks it makes them gay?
ITT: prove you aren't mentally ill.
Here's the definition.
A mental illness is a medical condition that disrupts a person's thinking, feeling, mood, ability to relate to others and daily functioning. Just as diabetes is a disorder of the pancreas, mental illnesses are medical conditions that often result in a diminished capacity for coping with the ordinary demands of life.
Abused "More Likely to Be Gay"
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3949087/Abused-more-likely-to-be-gay
CDC: 94 to 95 Percent of HIV Cases Among Young Men Linked to Gay Sex
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cdc-94-to-95-percent-of-hiv-cases-among-boys-and-young-men-linked-to-gay-se
Drug Use "Seven Times Higher" Among Homosexuals
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/drug-use-seven-times-higher-among-gays-8165971.html
Higher Risk of Mental Health Problems for Homosexuals
http://psychcentral.com/lib/higher-risk-of-mental-health-problems-for-homosexuals/0006527
HIV Among Homosexual and Bisexual Men
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/
Homosexual Men Have Fifty Times Higher Rate of AIDS
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#incidence
Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away
http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/2011/10/08/homosexuality-the-mental-illness-that-went-away/#.UQi3X12lxQI
How Different are the Adult Children of Parents who Have Same-Sex Relationships?
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610
Inside the Meth-Fueled, Week-Long Orgies Plaguing London's Gay Scene
http://www.queerty.com/meth-fueled-gay-orgies-london-20130606/
One in Five Homosexual, Bisexual Men in U.S. Cities Has HIV
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/23/us-aids-usa-idUSTRE68M3H220100923
The Removal of Homosexuality from the Psychiatric Manual
http://cssronline.org/CSSR/Archival/2001/Nicolosi_71-78.pdf
Cont
>>3233359
Report Finds Black Homosexual Males in U.S. Worst Hit By HIV-AIDS
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/report-finds-black-gay-males-us-worst-hit-161752246.html
Statistics on Sexual Promiscuity Among Homosexuals
http://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
STD Facts - Syphilis & MSM
http://www.cdc.gov/std/Syphilis/STDFact-MSM-Syphilis.htm
Viral Hepatitis Populations - Men Who Have Sex with Men
http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/Populations/msm.htm
ABC Hires Gay Activist to Write Eight Hour Miniseries About the History of the Gay Rights Movement
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abc-hires-gay-activist-to-write-8-hour-miniseries-about-the-history-of-the
Can We Please Just Start Admitting That We Do Actually Want to Indoctrinate Kids
http://www.queerty.com/can-we-please-just-start-admitting-that-we-do-actually-want-to-indoctrinate-kids-20110512/
CBS Execs Meet with Transgender Activists to Promote Positive TV Portrayals
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cbs-execs-meet-with-transgender-activists-to-promote-positive-tv-portrayals
Media Exposure and Viewers' Attitudes Toward Homosexuality
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08838150902908049
The Media is Not Biased Toward Homosexual Marriage. It is Promoting it.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/04/the-media-is-not-biased-toward-gay-marriage-it-is-promoting-it/
The Rampant Promotion of Homosexuality in Movies and Television
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/promotinghomosexuality26nov11.shtml
The Real Homosexual Agenda is on Your TV and Movie Screens
http://www.gcmwatch.com/7409/the-real-gay-agenda-is-on-your-tv-and-movie-screens
Cont
Finally a study in the Netherlands (probably the most pro-gay place in the world) shows poor mental health among their average homosexual, and they link it to the homosexual life style.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/poor-mental-health-among-homosexuals-caused-by-lifestyle-itself-or-discrimi
tell me about your first time, i'll listen.
I banged a hot chick and it was totally awesome, what, do you think I'm gay or something?
>>3212151
>>3212148
>met guy on /lgbt/
>he comes to visit me the weekend to "hang out"
>starts humping me on my bed while I just wanted to watch a movie with a friend
>eventually said "fuck it, I might as well lose my virginity"
>eventually im topping him its awful
>prickly hairs rubbing on my dick as I go in and out of his ass
>eventually he just randomly throws up on my bed
>pull out, shit on my dick
>wtf so hard, just clean it off without him seeing to spare him the embaressment
>he goes to get a drink
>mfw there is a tiny turd on the bed
holy shit I wish I was making this up, honestly, I didnt fap for a month after this because of how bad it was
>meet christian
>talking about his views on marriage
>he says he separates legal marriage from what the bible promotes
>says the christian anti-gay marriage debate is about applying christian teachings to different cultural standards
>tells me the core christian view is a permanent bond between two people to allow them to have sex for procreation
>proceeds to go on about non-procreational sex and sex outside of that permanent bond he called marriage is bad
>goes into objectification and stuff
>doesn't know I'm gay
>not sure how to take any of this
>apparently this guy is teaching this to large groups of people in my small town and works as a youth pastor in my small fucking town
I don't know what to think. Should I be happy or mad that this view is spreading in my neighborhood?
A faggot. You met a faggot, OP.
>>3198816
>tells me the core christian view is a permanent bond between two people to allow them to have sex for procreation
So he's advocating that?
>>3198991
Thats what OP says
If women and men were truly treated equally in this world, there would be no need for transgender surgery; people would feel free to be as masculine or feminine as they wanted, regardless of what was between their legs. However, we are a long way from a gender-neutral society, so in the meantime, people who work better as a different gender than the one they're treated as must have surgery in order to change it and fit into society. Sad, really. Why are we not working to overthrow gender roles instead? It is the instant cure. Let people be who they want to be and they will not feel forced to alter their bodies to conform to you.
It's about body dysphoria, how they're treated socially doesn't matter.
>>3191564
yes this is what marxism told , (not newage cultural one)
lgbt only can be free when women free
>>3191568
So why transgenders talk about "social dysphoria"?
Are these not really trans?
Out of curiosity, are there any twinks on here attracted to other twinks? I have a pretty meek and lean body type, but only find others of the similar body type attractive.
>>3020846
There are TONS of twinks who like other twinks.
Almost all twinks in existence.
>>3020846
yeah, muscles are a huge turn off to me
I don't actually know this, and I've always wondered, where did the word "twink" come from?
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>>3008626
Non-passing MTFs, how do you buy clothes (especially underwear)? It's freaky as hell shopping in public stores, and though I haven't been approached yet I've gotten enough death glares simply browsing to fill a lifetime.
>>3008634
Honestly, buy it online. Shopping for panties in a real shop is super scary. Hipsters or women's boxers will do just fine.
Why is this a thing now? I mean I understand when I was a kid I wanted to be Optimus Prime, but I went through puberty and all of that changed,
Seriously though, these people are fucking with actual gender issues making up “identities” that they’ll drop when they come out of puberty. Meanwhile, people with ACTUAL gender dysphoria will have to deal with the bullshit the Tumblrkin left in their wake.
How long will it take for this to pass or will little kids like this push actual transgender folk away?
I hate this concept, but I can't hate my Ariesbro.
So does this mean I can identify as a Naruto AMV with a Limp Bizkit song as my gender?
>>3014276
Pretty sure that's a fake looking at the tumblr page.
Ignorant, Oppressive CIS here. When did "Transvestites" en masse become "Transexuals"??
Used to be that the term "transexual" was unkown but the term "drag queen" and "transvestite" were near universal terms back in the 80s-early 2000s.
>inb4 thats because you were hearing what you wanted to hear.
Nope. That's just how society was. Trust me. Worked as a bouncer in the club scene for years and there were plenty of traps but no "transexuals."
What was the pivot that changed the terms or the population in that direction? Was it the increased avaliability and safety of hormone treatments and sex change operations? Was it the push of Trans activists to get themselves recognized on the books, etc?
Do you diminish the transvestite community by immediately lumping them in with transsexuals?
What happened?
>>3021158
Well then are transsexuals who are pre-op and not on hormone therapy technically transvestites for that matter?
bump for confusion
They didn't, I promise you there are still plenty of transvestites. As far as there being more transsexuals, better availability, safety and quality of hormone treatments and sex change operations has probably helped, as well as the existence of the internet making self-diagnosis and self-medication easier.
>tfw twinky face but bear body
>tfw don't wanna be either top or bottom and everyone seems to choose only one
>bear body
>twinky face
You're probably a lardboat with a babyface, pics or didn't happen, etc
>>3017267
Supporting this statement. Prove that you're not just a fatass.
I don't get it. Can a gay person explain the joke to me?
It was probably more on the timing of it.
Why is Barack Obama doing these things though? It seems like I'm always hearing about him going to different cities just being a bro.
Fuck off /pol/
Because he's just a regular fucking dude and him boning another dude is nothing special. He's trying to say he's no different than anyone else just because he sleeps with guys in private, he's still a regular person outside of the bedroom. Are you really this dense?
Just wanted to ask some actual gay people here: Do any of you think that video games need to change to cater to gay/trans people?
I'll save you the thread. Putting in LGBT characters is fine, it's all about how and why you do it.
More New Vegas and less Dragon Age: Cisqusition please.
>>3012410
>modern gaming
you mean movies, right?
anyways, the "catering" to gay/trans people is retarded and gets blown out of proportion whenever it happens. Sadly, your interactive movies will acknowledge gay people, and this will have to continue until nobody fucking cares that a character is gay, and it no longer has to be a central part of somebody.
Trevor from GTA IV is a well done homosex.
When a character stops being "that gay character" or "that trans character", and their sexuality/gender is just another characteristic, this shit will stop being as controversial. Just like how "the black character" stopped being so common.
I don't think they need to change to cater to us, but having more canon gay/trans representation would be nice in some major media, if nothing other than to make the characters more realistic. I honestly can't remember the last RPG I even played that allowed same-sex relationships, which is something seriously disappointing. Just don't pretend LGBT people don't exist, really.
What's your opinion on this?
"appropriate" lol
>>3013244
What the fuck. Lesbians are homosexual, so it just counts as homophobia. Besides, lesbians get fetishised, and that's about it, from what I've seen.
The OP of this text.
Can't tell whether they're the hipster on the left or the hipster on the right