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Hey /lgbt/,
I've been wondering for a while. the term "non-binary" has been flying around often and I am getting curious whether it is legitimate or not.
I tried to google that term and 90% of the results are from Tumblr blogs and the rest were either Yahoo answers or cheesy looking websites like buzzfeed. I don't trust any of these websites.

I then tried to search for the same term on Google scholar for more scientific resources, I ONLY got articles from Computer Science topics.

So, is it a made up term from Tumblr's SJW or a legit thing?

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Both my therapists (who don't specialize in gender, fyi) use the term non-binary and genderfluid as well.
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It's a synonym for another condition called special snowflake syndrome, it's when you're cis but really want some of that lgbt victimhood, so you say you're non binary, it's non committal becaus you can do whatever you want, yet it bestows upon you special victim status and the ability to get offended at everything.
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Euugh idk, I suppose it makes sense that some people don't feel male or female. I've never met one before though so it could be satire.

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I seriously wonder how I would handle it if my kid was like that. How could I help him to get better and accept himself as he is, a little boy ? Anyone has stories ?
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I think having separate restrooms is unnecessary and perpetuates sexism.
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>A lizard at that
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>>5808588
>HAHA WOW, LOOK AT THIS THING THAT TOTALLY HAPPENED TO SOMEONE ELSE, WHAT SHOULD THEY DO?

fuck off, you've already ruined your kid, it's too late.

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Hey fellow Tops, what do you look for in your bottom boys?

Im pretty much exclusively into top/bottom relationships. I like that comfort of having a cute, femboy snuggle up on my at night, and grow attached to me any lays his head in my lap during movies. You know, the type that gets shy when you smack them on their ass. Cute shit like that.

What kinda stuff do you guys look for?

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>>5808408
Not a top, but I almost perfectly fit the description of your ideal partner. Glad to know I'm someone's type.
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>>5808408
Cute, likes anal and is a huge nerd.
None of the that fake hipester nerd pure true nerd or geek.
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>>5808493
What's your definition of "huge nerd"?

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Hello /lgbt/, /pol/ack here. I don't hate you or anything to start with. But I want to know, are you redpilled?
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No.
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you can say yes
i used to lurk /pol/ way before accepting myself as gay
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>>5808427
OP here. Not everyone on /pol/ hates gays. But a lot of people still do. So you could still go back I guess. Anyways the only threads now are about the god-emperor

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Personally I think it's making the LGBT community a joke. We don't need "anxigender" or "demigender" and all that, do we?
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>>5807740
desu pride parades with people wearing nothing but phallic objects is worse.
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>>5807740
all but straight, bisexual, gay, and asexual are made up.
that includes anything on the ~asexual spectrum~, like "grey ace" and "demisexual".

i don't really think there are more than two genders, and that most non-binary people are either tumblr-trenders (and not trans at all) or dysphoric trans people, who are likely confused and unsure of whether or not they're really just binary trans.
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I approve. To me gay/bi/straight is just looking at sexuality in the simplest way possible, I don't see the problem with people creating sub categories within these that better describe themselves, especially if you fall under the bi umbrella, which is rarely a one size fits all deal.

I was watching a interview where this gay guy was being kind of a dick to a bi guy because he couldn't understand why he wanted to have sex with men but not be in a relationship with one, so even within the lgbt community there are people with a fixed idea of what being gay/bi should entail, and when you don't fit it they try push you into a box or insult your understanding of your own desires.

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How come girls wear tight shorts and its considered social norm but guys do it and its abnormal?
Double standard
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How about other gender double standards:
A man hits a woman is WRONG, but a woman hits a man is OK. :-/
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>>5807165
You know when you go on a youtube video, and a guy is wearing eyeliner, and everyone in the comments section is calling him a fag?

It's the same basic principle.
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>>5807169
Or maybe don't hit anyone cause getting hit fuckin' hurts.

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>http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2016/02/24/peds.2015-3223

>OBJECTIVE: Transgender children who have socially transitioned, that is, who identify as the gender “opposite” their natal sex and are supported to live openly as that gender, are increasingly visible in society, yet we know nothing about their mental health. Previous work with children with gender identity disorder (GID; now termed gender dysphoria) has found remarkably high rates of anxiety and depression in these children. Here we examine, for the first time, mental health in a sample of socially transitioned transgender children.

>RESULTS: Transgender children showed no elevations in depression and slightly elevated anxiety relative to population averages. They did not differ from the control groups on depression symptoms and had only marginally higher anxiety symptoms.

>CONCLUSIONS: Socially transitioned transgender children who are supported in their gender identity have developmentally normative levels of depression and only minimal elevations in anxiety, suggesting that psychopathology is not inevitable within this group. Especially striking is the comparison with reports of children with GID; socially transitioned transgender children have notably lower rates of internalizing psychopathology than previously reported among children with GID living as their natal sex.

Tell me again, how exactly is this child abuse?
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Idk, I wish I didn't repress my feelings and transitioned when I started to experience dysphoria. I'm an emotional wreck and contemplate suicide every day now at 22. So I guess I'm a failed tranny.
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I'm somewhat curious on how accurate GID and trans diagnoses are, especially in the under 8 crowd.
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>>5806469
I went the other way, buried my negative emotions so deep that I don't have them, actually worked out quite well cos I pass now and use it to my advantage in certain aspects in life.

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Well, I did it /lgbt/. I sucked my first dick.

Literally nothing special. I feel like once you've sucked one you've sucked them all.

So why do you faggots like this so much again?
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>>5805799
what was this particular dick like. we need details.
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>>5805800
It was like 7 inches, not rock hard but hard, I even deepthroated it a couple times and was surprised at how easily a dick will slide down your throat compared to a pickle.

Also the head was kinda big, other than that pretty normal.

It was attached to a slightly older dude, is that the issue?
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I mean shit, at least pussy has a flavor. It can be a dicey flavor but it's there.

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>female face and body very attractive
>vagina unattractive
>male face and body completely unattractive
>penis highly arousing

Kill me please
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>>5805457
Just seek a femboy, or penis-positive trans girl, and be a good match. Don't kill yourself over something as stupid as that.
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>>5805457
Will you cuddle me?
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>>5805457
I have the exact same predicament OP.

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>be guy
>like a girl
>turns out he's trans
>surprisingly unaffected by this

whats wrong with me, i thought i'd be turned off by this fact but i really dont care??? i still have feelings for him.

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You're a dude who likes a girl.
Nothing's wrong with you.
Chill brotha.
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ftm or mtf nigger?
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>>5804951
but he's trans.

use to be a girl

but he is now a guy.

shoot i dont even know how to say that.

is trans guy mean that was girl, but now guy?

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obviously this question doesn't apply if you already have complete acceptance from your parents for being lgbt.

but i was thinking earlier and as an mtf in the middle of transitioning, the best possible thing i think i could hear from them would be "actually you remind me a lot more of how you were as a kid now than you did a few years ago". to me that would mean that they really "get" it, that male puberty was wreaking havoc on my psychological health and making me dead inside. when i look at old photos and videos of myself as a kid i recognize the mannerisms, personality, and facial expressions as coming from the same person i am today, and i really feel like by living as a woman i'm just a more mature version of the boy i used to be (because realistically there was no way that "boy" could have ever been happy trying to be a man..... being a boy was ok, but being a man is something totally different, and it seems obvious when i try to look at kid-me from an outsider's perspective, that that child was never going to be comfortable with a man's body or trying to fulfill that role).

.....on the other hand, in pics/videos from my mid to late teens all i see is dead glazed over looks, nervous smiles, grimacing, and trying to hide my body. i spent those years trying to distance myself from who i was -- whereas in the past few years i've slowly reconnected with who i've been at all different times in my life, but especially the times when i was the most happy and vibrant.

tl;dr i wrote a long personal anecdote but you don't have to read it to answer the question and share your own story
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>>5804436
Anon, that's adorable. I'm so happy that you're finding yourself. You deserve now that happiness you had then. That's you.
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>>5804630
:D thank you anon <3
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>>5804436

>"actually you remind me a lot more of how you were as a kid now than you did a few years ago"

That's a good one.

Here are two:

>Dad: "When you get married, I'm going to make sure I'm there to walk you down the aisle, even if it kills me."
>They start asking when I'll bring a boyfriend home or talk about my future life with a male partner, the same way they currently ask when I'll bring a girlfriend home and talk about some non-existent future as a heterosexual cis man with a wife and kids.

Though if they did either one, it would also make me sad because it's never going to happen. I'm going to die incel.

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http://exhentai.org/g/853141/34405e6235/

Is Futamote a tranny's ideal relationship or a chaser's sexual fantasy?

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http://g.e-hentai.org/g/853141/34405e6235/

Alternate link so you can read it
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Also please explain why if you've voted
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>>5804171

I think it's a chaser's sexual fantasy. Though there are some parts that appeal to a trans girls, since I do find parts of it hot.

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what does chaser mean lol i'm out the loop
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>>5804147
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/10/02/trans_chasers_exploitive_admirers_who_harass_trans_people.html

Here's the gist.
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>>5804178
cheers duderino
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>>5804178

>Even if he doesn't secretly consider you a boy exactly, you'll never truly be a woman in his mind, either, because you've been exoticized as "the woman with something extra." Something else. Something other.

Because you ARE different: you were assigned male at birth. That doesn't mean you're not a woman, but it doesn't mean you're cis... Why do people like this author focus so much on propagating the cis meme? You can have a loving boyfriend who knows you're trans and [gasp!] might even like you for it. That doesn't mean he's chaser scum. Obviously the guy in this story who called his girlfriend a "cute boy" is a complete idiot, but blindly refuting any attempts of discussion regarding the womanhood of transgirls is only going to cause problems.

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How are some people still figuring out their sexualities as adults?
>Seriously who doesn't know who floats their boat by the age of 15?
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>>5803988
Sexuality can be pretty fluid and confusing, especially during your teenage years. It becomes pretty clear by around 20 at the latest though. These people who are "figuring it out" later on just consciously pushed themselves deep into the closet when they were younger. It's not a realization, it's an embracement.
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>>5803988
I had a general idea of who I liked, but I grew up in a very conservative area so I forced myself to never explore it, never talk about it, never mention any of it, and bury it. Now in my 20s I'm still repressed and sexually confused, even after coming out. All of these people have been in the LGBT dating circut for years and I'm bumbling into it now like wtf am I doing pls help me.
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>>5803988
Took me until I was 18 to admit to myself I was gay. I had some major fetishes (abdl) that obscured that fact for awhile - namely I would "self-insert" while looking at abdl pics - telling myself that it's the fetish, not the guy I was getting off to. Denial is a bitch.

But yeah - I know dudes in their thirties who are still "questioning" and I think it's ridiculous.

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If TERFs, gendercrits and radfems want gender abolished then women's spaces shouldn't be allowed to exist because they arbitrarily segregate people based on their biological sex. They're unwittingly reinforcing sexism and arbitrary gender roles by forcing others out of certain spaces or into certain labels that hinge on their bio sex.

>but muh raep victims and womyn's shelters

So what? If some bitch gets triggered by seeing a male, then that means she's either delirious or a blatant sexist, how is this the male's fault? And the very idea of women only shelters is sexist and misandrist. Shelters should be made to accommodate everyone regardless of bio sex. All lives matter! Everyone should be treated equally.
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Radfems, including the subset of terfs, do not want gender abolished.
Do you even understand the different between second and third wave feminism? It's these bullshit sjws who want gender abolished and shit.

I'm not either personally, I think they're both imbecilic and feminism has been downhill since Wollstonecraft tbqh.
But women's shelters are needed, there is a demand for them. There are also men's shelters like YMCA. These places function better when divided by gender to give the right care to the right demographics and leave women feeling safe and actually being safe.
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>>5803719
My experience with women only spaces as an obvious dude is that they are either A) not safe and ment to bully and exclude, especially transwomen, with "safety" just a thin veener or B) not really 'women only', but more like 'for women, mostly but dudes are welcome too just don't be dicks please'. I've been to plenty of Bs, and people are usually chill and welcoming.

>feminism has been downhill since Goldman and de Cleyre
fixed that for you
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>>5803719
TERFs don't call themselves TERFs, they call themselves gender-critical. Originally that meant they were in favor of abolishing gender roles, as they were something that holds women back. However, now they view gender as a "loophole" which allows men to invade female spaces. They don't realize that discriminating based on sex is in fact enforcing the gender roles they originally wanted to abolish.

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