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I want to find out from trans people why they think they are in the body of the opposite gender.
Transgnderism has become increasingly widespread and discussed, filmed, studied and celebrated recently, with a noticeable massive increase in the amount of people identifying as trans or bigender.
But I have not heard a coherent explanation from a trans person as to what trans actually is in terms of their identity, and what it means to them. I've not seen an identity based explanation from a bigender person as to how someone can actually feel they are two genders simultaneously without being a hermaphrodite physically.
For instance Caitlyn Jenner described looking in the mirror during the vanity fair photoshoot and seeing the 'real me' for the first time. In Louis Therouxs transgender kids episode he spoke to a transitioned woman to man who described seeing the boys line up to pee in the woods and 'just knowing' that she was actually male after that moment. The other people in the episode, trans kids and their parents, said similar things.
Regardless of the science, aside from questions of the physical body and physical brain, these types of descriptions dont describe anything in terms of identity, personality, internal psychological dynamics or emotion. For something so serious as to require dramatic surgery and the medical blocking of childrens puberty I'm astounded that the people involved cannot fluidly communicate why this is required.
So /lgbt/ what does being transgender actually mean to the transgendered? How does a person feel or think that their body is not their actual gender?
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Trans peoples' brains are misprogrammed from birth which causes distress in the features of their biological sex. The evidence we have been able to find so far supports this claim. The only known treatment is transitioning, and the evidence supports the lack of other treatment options.
Being trans means nothing to me; it's just a fucking diagnosis. It is totally irrelevant to my identity as a person.
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>>5841779
They don't communicate why because it's really fucking hard to communicate a feeling to someone who has never felt it before. Every analogy will be lacking and simplistic, every explanation will be unsatisfactory, every description will be too narrow to grasp it.
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>>5841807
>Every analogy will be lacking and simplistic, every explanation will be unsatisfactory, every description will be too narrow to grasp it.
An attempt would surely be better than nothing? As it stands I've literally never heard anyone even attempt.
Arbitrary visual statements are not feelings or internal perceptions, clothes are not gender.
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Am I the only gay guy who gets uncomfortable about the modern image of a gay guy are those who praise drag queens, vogue, love female artists like beyonce, and go go boys? It's not like I wish for every gay guy to be masculine or not into things like I described above but it's like there is this underlying idea that if you're a gay guy and you don't like to be a gay stereotype then you must hate yourself.
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>>5841156
>am I the only
NO
YOU ARENT
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THERE ARE SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE, IM SURE SOMEONE AGREES WITH YOU
YOU ARENT SPECIAL OR DIFFERENT
WE HAVE THIS THREAD EVERY GOTDAM DAY
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>>5841156
>there is this underlying idea that if you're a gay guy and you don't like to be a gay stereotype then you must hate yourself.
I've never heard one gay guy say anything like that irl desu
In fact most gay guys I know are mathc4mathc
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>>5841164
MAYBE IF I LEFT CAPS LOCK ON PEOPLE WILL TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!!!!!
Seriously grow up.
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Why are people so unaccepting 2016-03-08 19:18:08 Post No.5841009
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Why are people so unaccepting
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Transgirl here, question for you all, how many of you had unsupportive parents?
I came out to me mom and she told me I was messed in the head and that I can't be trans cause there were no signs (though there were she just yelled at me and said that I can't do whatever I was doing or can't have what I wanted cause it's gay), had to write her a letter, staying at my brothers for March break, what do I do when I get home? She's bound to flip shit again and last time I ended up a total mess and couldn't even go to school I just went to my brothers a couple days early
Have a Guts meme for your troubles
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>>5841009
not me
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>>5841009
>be me
>come out to parents
>you must be possessed, you are going to church with us
>let me do this praying ritual shit
:^) I don't talk to them anymore
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>>5841009
FtM here.
My mom just thinks it's a phase, my grandma says I can't be trans because I collect anime figures
Could've been worse, but it's still pretty fucking annoying to deal with
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Remember me? Sub sissies? 2016-03-08 18:16:03 Post No.5840849
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i helped someone on here a few weeks ago who wanted to know how to cum analy. i posted some tips i did on my ex and a few other people thanked me. I was just curious (doubt they will show up again) but if they are on here how did it go and did it help. Would love to hear of progress. (pic is related as i used it for the diagram and i hope it helps them remember)
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repost the tips, i would like to.
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name of that toy?
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poast music LGBT people usually like (but good music)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXE8s8xLJKs
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>>5840339
grimes is lgbt?
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>if i skin myself my beard will stop growing
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>>5840330
>if I skin myself, not even FFS will save from being an ugly female
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>>5840342
but no beard :^)
also not trans, just dysphoric dude
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>>5840346
Dysphoric why if you're a cis male?
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In biology sex is defined as which gamete you produce.
Small with flagellum = male
Big without flagellum = female
So there should be 4 sexes:
1. produces neither gamete
2. male
3. female
4. produces both gametes
thoughts?
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>>5840054
t. Kid who failed 9th grade bio
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>>5840070
do you have another definiton?
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>>5840080
Sex is if you come out of the womb with xx chromosomes or xy chromosomes
IE if you have a natural vagoo or a natural weewee
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On a scale from 1 to absolutely faggot, how degenerate is it to use Grindr for a first experience ?
I'm dateless kissless virgin
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That is absolutely faggot.
I honestly can't believe virgins come here.
>He hasn't kissed someone
Wtf man
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>>5839806
>tfw 24 yo hhkv
im special
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Fuck me this is the first time i've been to /lgbt/ and it's because I fucked up grinder just now
>chatting up nice guy
>i've got no display picture because i'm an insecure cunt
>he was nice enough to send me a photo of his face
>8/10 would
>decided to spiff up my hair a little bit, pose for different camera angles and shit
>taking a noticeably long time to find a good photo
>didn't notice guy send "where are you" a couple of times
>find great photo
>ready to upload and apologize
>B L O C K E D
Like fuck this guy was willing to show me the ropes but no I go and fuck it up
Fucking hate myself right now lmao fuck
>realized I look like a catfight/ ukranian chat bot
I want to die
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Caitlyn Jenner slams Hillary Clinton: She “couldn’t care less about women” 2016-03-08 08:28:23 Post No.5839533
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Caitlyn Jenner slams Hillary Clinton: She “couldn’t care less about women”
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http://www.salon.com/2016/03/07/caitlyn_jenner_slams_hillary_clinton_she_couldnt_care_less_about_women/
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So... Jenner is officially the worst thing to ever happen to us right? What did we do to deserve this?
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>t. Caitlin Lexxie Jenner, Woman Expert
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I just hate how she's a fucking Kardashian. This is a nightmare. It means the media coverage will never fucking end, she's going to be our "official spokesperson" for the next decade. Every time someone thinks about us Jenner is going to be the first thought to pop into their minds.
UGHHHHH
Trans game modes by race:
MTF
>easy mode
East Asian
Southeast Asian
>normal mode
Caucasian
>hard mode
Indian
Middle Eastern
>nightmare mode
African/Black
South American
FTM
>easy mode
African/Black
East Asian
Southeast Asian
>normal mode
South American
Middle Eastern
Indian
>nightmare mode
Caucasian
Thoughts?
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I'm Asian ;;)) but why do you people think we will pass easily
Pic related: me at one month HRT
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>>5839021
you honestly look better than most cis Asian girls.
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>>5839029
I just think my family is generally good looking and has recently feminine genes. My cousins and sisters are all like 5'3" and petite as hell. I'm like 5'9" :( do you think I'll ever be as pretty as my relatives?
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As a pan girl, how can I make myself look more gender neutral? 2016-03-08 04:58:59 Post No.5838832
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As a pan girl, how can I make myself look more gender neutral?
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I was bisexual all my life until discovering pansexuality (and realising this was the definition I was looking for) and although I am in a straight relationship, I want to look more gender neutral. I know it seems like I am assuming the two are related, but I feel as if I understand who I want to be more and this change is necessary.
Also, I don't want to transition, this is about changing my female outward appearance to seem more masculine i.e no surgery, meds etc
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>>5838832
Aren't you a little worried that your bf won't like you if you start looking like a man? (assuming your bf is straight, not bi)
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>>5838832
I pity your poor boyfriend hopefully he realized you're crazy and dumps you when you start dressing like a fucking dyke
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My bf is straight and just wants me to be happy, we've been together for 3 years now. I don't want to dress like a "fucking dyke", I just want to look less feminine. I have struggled with my identity for a long time and I think this may help me. I am sick of people hitting on me just because I am a woman, I have tits but that doesn't mean the whole world is entitled to chomp on my nipz.
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Scared by stories of biphobia in LG communities. 2016-03-08 03:27:57 Post No.5838379
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Scared by stories of biphobia in LG communities.
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I am a middle 20 something virgin male that realised I was Bisexual some weeks ago. Always thought I was a Straight white cis male, but came across some porno of a mastrubating man coming all over his chest that made me feel amazing stuff. Have had so much fun exploring bisexual porn, gay porn, lesbian porn etc being BI is Great! But the reason I made this thread is because of all the bad stuff I read that the LG communities do to BI people, the whole forcing them to deny their bisexualty etc. Repulsive behavior. I hope I don't come across any such horrible biphobes. I am not waving that rainbow flag any time soon. I live in Norway in a "big city" so I guess it would be hard to find a better place to be BI, but it still got me unsetteled after all those wonderfull feelings I have had.
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>>5838379
oh no is poor baby's feelings hurt :c
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>>5838379
don't follow the stereotypes and you won't have a problem
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>>5838379
DIRTY SWITCHEROO
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/Ancient facebook post feels/
>Go to purge old pictures
>See how frickin girly I am all the way back to when I was 14 or so
>Posing with girls like I'm one of them
>Sitting with my legs up tucked against me/crossed
>Mirror selfies dressed kinda femmy
>Looking depressed as fuck in tagged photos
I'm embarassed it took me so long to realize I was sexually repressed.
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I never made a Facebook account when it was becoming a big thing among us middle schoolers (at the time) because I didn't want anyone looking up my past history online after I transitioned. Too bad I was faaaaaaar too stupid to actually transition then.
Anyway, yeah, it's pretty surprising the indications you find of being a tranny all along in old photos (photo albums, in my case).
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>>5838074
So you actually knew you would transition eventually? I knew I liked the idea of being a girl but didn't realize it was something I could even do. I was totally caught up in the "I'm a guy so I have to act manly" mindset.
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>>5838085
Yeah, yet I was too dumb to do something, somehow. I just left it for some nondescript time sometime in the future. Maybe because I didn't know what would happen during puberty since I skipped that day in 5th grade sex ed, and then by the time puberty had started I was religious.
I think my first ever thought of planning to transition was when I was in 3rd grade (though my parents somehow recall me being 7 years old, which would put me in 2nd grade). The background was that I was discharged after being hospitalized for most of the school week because I had really labored breaths, fever, inability to concentrate, and headaches. My mother told me it was bronchitis then, but in the time since, asthma. Perhaps coincidentally, my parents took me to the same hospital where my mother gave birth to me. So anyway, I walked out of the hospital with my mother, and it was winter with snow around us, the same season I was born. And so I thought to myself that this might be my chance for a "rebirth." I asked my mother what I would have been named if I had been born a girl. Since I was already pretty afraid of my parents' potential reactions to finding out I want to be a girl, I decided to disguise the question by asking what my brothers would have been called too. I planned on remembering that name and using it after I transitioned, and I asked then because I thought when I did tell my parents my intention, I would already know the name they would have given me so they wouldn't be able to keep it from me. But somehow I didn't bother remembering it. Despite all of the effort I put in to learning long words and excelling in school, I really was a little retard where it counted.
I hope that was easy to understand. I feel I formatted it really badly.
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what are better forums to go talk about gender and sexuality on? this one is abhorrent.
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Susan's
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Tumblr
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>>5837832
>Susan's
that's not a forum, dumbass.
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Bi-Curious General: Brown shota elf edition 2016-03-08 01:12:10 Post No.5837699
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Bi-Curious General: Brown shota elf edition
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I really think keeping a bi-curious gen in rotation will cut out some of the confused guys making back to back threads not being sure if they like dick or not. What do you guys think?
Also any confused/curious anons wanna share their tale.
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new in this board and it seemed the best place to ask around some questions:
I am a white male, cisgender, consider myself straight (since I never felt attraction to any man).
I also like girls clothes. But not any clothes, nor dresses (I mean they`re cute when they're cute but they arent cute in me imo). I like to wear female clothes in such a way that they dont really seem "female" nor "male" - I wnated to be slender to do so but lately my shoulders and chest broadened so im kinda sad...
For some reason my (ex? long story) gf said several times that she feels Im a bi in denial or something.
am i?
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>>5838211
> I like to wear female clothes
>I never felt attraction to any man
>am i bi in denial?
Nope. Not from what you're saying anyway. Per definition you're a crossdresser, and that's not directly linked to whether you're gay or bi or straight. Your (ex) gf just harbors some mistaken presumptions as to what crossdressing says about a person.
It's not really unusual. Girls wear men's clothes and make them seem androgynous and no-one bats an eye.
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>>5838276
so the simple fact that i find some specific pieces of female clothing makes me a crossdresser? even if my goal, so to speak, isnt to "look feminine"?