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Transwomen, how are you sure you were meant to be women? Could it be just, or primarily that your perception of stereotypical femininity is appealing, and you want to be wanted, feel sexy, and admired in the way that women are?
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>>6868679
we have this thread twice a day at least
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>>6868679
>looking at my male self makes me want to shoot my head off
>very unlikely, given that i'm not exceptionally feminine and the one thing i fear in potentially passing is getting attention and people not leaving me alone
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>>6868679
Closeted wanabe so I don't know if my opinion is welcome.
>Transwomen, how are you sure you were meant to be women?
I don't think anyone is "meant" to be anyone. Some people who were born as one sex feel the need to have the body/hormones of the other and suffer greatly if that's not the case. Everything else is just societal brainwashing about what it means to be a man or a woman.
In truth transsexuals, even before HRT, are not truly men nor women. The sexually dysmorphic regions of our brains tend to be somewhere in between. We don't know if that's the cause of transsexualism but it heavily correlates with feeling gender dysphoria.
>Could it be just, or primarily that your perception of stereotypical femininity is appealing, and you want to be wanted, feel sexy, and admired in the way that women are?
There are a lot of transsexuals who stay in the closet but still take hormones because they alleviate their dysphoria. Stereotypical femininty has nothing to do with it.
This is what infuriates me about gender crits. They think this is about playing dressup.
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Okay, so I'm having doubts about both my gender AND sexuality, I've known I was gay + trans since I was 13, I'm AFAB and now, 6 years later I think I might be FtM, I have always been very masculine and I started binding at 14 (Only to be stopped by my parents after a few months) I always felt very disconnected to the fact that I was a woman, I am fine with my assigned sex physically, but only when it is treated as something neutral, I do not nor have ever felt like a female or a woman, I just wanted to dissociate myself from all of that. For a few years I have felt what I described as "male envy" (The body, the looks, the penis) but I actually don't have a desire to be treated as a cis male by society, I like being trans in the neutral terms (gender nonconforming? queer?) And while it may sound ridiculous and very tumblr bullshit, that's just how I always felt, I don't have a discomfort with not looking more masculine, it's more like a longing, to have a beard, to lose the hourglass figure and the round face. I don't know if this means I am ftm, i feel like I'm just halfway there because I don't fully feel male.
Another thing is that, while I have only been with women (and they all treated me as a neutral person, not a butch lesbian or a woman) and I have mostly rejected the idea of being with a man, if I ever do have sex with one, I want to be treated as a male (which is not the case with women) is this just AAP? Am I bisexual? I'm not a big fan of the idea of being bi tbqh familia, I like saying I'm gay.
Also, my parents have always been worried about my life in the future since I came out, they thought that I would transition and I told them a firm no, but now I don't know what to do, because I definitely cannot be their daughter while looking hairy and beefy.
tldr: I want to look like a man but not be one because I don't feel like one? and maybe I'm AAP?
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>>6868530
So you desire to have a male body, but not the male social role? Being a woman or a man is not about gender roles. On the other hand if you mean that you don't want to be perceived as a male that's another thing.
I'm sorry but your thoughts are a bit too scattered for me to make sense of them. Can you please rephrase them?
In your eyes what does it mean for one to feel like a man or a woman?
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>>6868554
I'm sorry, It's currently 6 AM and I haven't slept because of this, english is also not my first language so I'm not that great at expressing myself.
I know that being a man or a woman is not about gender roles, since I have been treated as a masculine woman for a while, and while I don't care what other people see me as, and I don't have much social dysphoria (besides being a little self conscious of looking and other people seeing me as feminine, maybe it's internalized misogyny)
I honestly don't know, there is just this big incredible discomfort of saying "I am a woman" or being told that I am one, it's like, maybe imagine you left your phone at a public bathroom, that sort of dread but it only lasts a few seconds. I could feel more comfortable saying I'm a boy, or a man, or whatever, but it's not completely true, it's maybe 55-60% true. And I fear that this might change over time and maybe in a year it might be 100% true. It's just the difference between comfort and discomfort of being seen or treated (by myself or others) as something.
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>>6868582
No worries. Sharing these feelings is always difficult.
I'm afraid I don't really know what to tell you as this is very far from my experience. Sorry. If you are not seeing a therapist consider doing so.
One thing I can say for sure is that you shouldn't let anyone push you down one road or another overly hastily. People like to try to make things fit into neat little boxes. Reject any narrative that does not feel true to your experience. Don't conform for the sake of being able to say you are one thing or another.
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if you were dating someone, and you were with them for a fairly long time (let's say more than a year), and then it turned out they were closeted to their immediate family, how would you take it?
Does it constitute lying to you, if they never told you?
Is it really a big deal?
Is it your business?
Is that the sort of thing you would break up over?
Would you want to help them come out?
Would that be a condition for staying together?
I'm interested in your opinion, /lgbt/
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>>6868512
people can have good reasons not to come out to their family. But it's no reason to break up.
As a bisexual I will never come out to my parents. They are old and see free sexuality as part of society's degeneration. Someone of the same sex really needs to be worth it for me to confront my parents about it. But should I find someone who is, I will have to do this, because I don't want to live a lie. But this will probably mean that my parents will never talk to me again, or at least treat me worse. And my dad will probably treat my mom worse, because he'll blame her for me being bi...
holy shit I really hate thinking about this...
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>>6868512
seems to me that if after a year of dating you hadn't figured out they were closeted to their family, you weren't in a serious relationship with them to begin with.
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>>6868776
I know this feel.
My mom and my sisters are probably the only ones in my family that would ever speak to me again if I came out to them.
It sucks.
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For a bisexual fatty, am I a good looking man? You can be >brutally< honest obviously.
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>>6868416
>image.jpg
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>>6868416
You gotta change up some stuff, maybe smile and a haicut?
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>>6868425
It's me mane
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Am I gay if I like cute 2d boys?
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>>6868217
Did you have to ask you bootlicking queer?
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>>6868328
I need to know
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>>6868217
Never met a straight person who does, so yeah, you're gay.
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Goodnight edition
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▶ MtF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxy (embed) (embed)
▶ Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed) (embed)
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.org/web/0000000000000/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Cis women of all sizes to make you feel better about yourself: http://www.mybodygallery.com/
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Goodnight
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I want to be fucked and feel someone inside of me xddd
>>6868151
good
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>>6868153
And with that Ima go to bed
nini everyone
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Anyone here white wanna talk about being lgbt and stuff?
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>>6867701
Do Hispanics county :)
Brb going to kill myself
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>>6867701
Golly i sure love being white. My skin is so nice.
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I would gladly carry on a relationship with any female of any race, but when it comes to men I only like them white.
Am I racist?
By seeing this alone do you think I'm a transtrender? Am I valid >_>
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>purr/purrs/purrself
Jesus Christ
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>>6867652
I just think my pronouns are really cute...
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>>6867661
please get out of tumblr
if you're really trans, it will ruin your life. 18/ftm, came out at 13 and found it before anything else, it fucked me over so hard
you are not 'nb', you are not 'purrself', you give off a vibe here of being a real tran but if i just had that to go off of i'd call you a trender for sure
the only way you can ever have a happy life and be a real girl is by getting out of the trender community
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Summer is almost over edition
▶ Trans Info Dump: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit?usp=sharing
▶ MtF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxy (embed) (embed)
▶ Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed) (embed)
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.org/web/0000000000000/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Cis women of all sizes to make you feel better about yourself: http://www.mybodygallery.com/
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
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I am gone right now...
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bu tt e
>>6867271
gone like a freight train?
gone like yesterday?
gone like a soldier in a civil war bang bang?
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Is this the only good place for LGBT discussion on the internet?
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>>6866916
Kek. This is most realistic of all edits. Maybe it is tied with the ben garrison's one.
trannies of LGBT, if you could take a pill to be either of the following which would you be?
Either a fat ugly but cis woman, or a qt but non passable femmeboi?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11178127
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>>6866682
I'd rather be a cute trap than a super good looking cis, even.
Yeah I guess I'm not TRUTRANS but who's going to stop me from taking all these pills?
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>>6866682
fat and ugly of course. lose weight, it's not hard at all. get ffs, now you're not ugly
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>>6866682
When we say fat ugly, are we saying ugly because fat and could be hot if they took the weight off, or bad genetics, impossible to save?
Would someone be able to compile a list of words/phrases that are used to help out a new lurker who is a little confused?
Hon?
T.(something)? Etc
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Lurk more, and stuff
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Hon: old, unpassable crossdressing fetishist in zebra spandex
Ayyden: young, unpassing memelord FTM, uses blue hair dye in place of testosterone
Faggot: you
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>>6866636
OP: fat old faggot
I'm a girl but I want to be a guy but I know I will never use testosterone or get surgery. I want to know how to dress/act like a guy. Any tips?
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>>6866509
The fact that you want to act like a guy shows that you're suffering from severe AAP. So, please stop. Just stop it right now.
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>>6866509
Cut your hair to a short and masculine style, don't wear any makeup whatsoever, don't shave, and wear masculine baggy clothing.
Enjoy passing.
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>>6866521
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How much do your levels of estrogen and testosterone figure in to wether you're homosexual or heterosexual? A lot of transpeople attest to having their sexuality change once they begin HRT (this is especially common in younger transitioners).
Are guys with lower test levels more likely to have gay tendencies, or does the existence of masc4masc negate this? Do butches prove that lesbians are higher test than straight women? Does the large number of late transitioning MTFs being trans-les prove that test makes and keeps you straight? What do you think?
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>>6866391
I have a genetic disorder that makes my body not produce testosterone
I am gay
I take testosterone shots now though and they have regulated my body to ordinary levels of testosterone
I am still gay
Most people with my condition are not gay
So I believe the answer is no
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>>6866418
well.... we'll see about that.
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>>6866418
It's related to androgens, not just test specifically. If your body produced no androgens you would be indistinguishable from a female.
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>no human has been gay since the beginning of time
Can you fags stop going through this phase?
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>>6866331
>mfw I know where this reaction image is from
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>>6866331
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>>6866451
Is it from gay porn?
Please say yes.