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Why do so many young transitioners and passers become attached to radical movements like radfeminism and the alt-right, that work directly against their interests? Are they the new bisexuals in terms of lack of allegiance to the LGBT community?
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Insecurity. They're afraid that the new wave of trannies is going to be even more passing, cute, smart and socially acceptable.
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>>7458311
Because those movements are big on the internet, where many of them spend too much time. As a share of trans people though they aren't actually a particularly large group.
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>>7458311
>alt-right, that work directly against their interests

First off, what defines an alt-righter? I've seen christian conservatives, libertarians, paleocons, monarchists, neo-nazis, manosphere dudes and others being called members of the "Alt-Right". The Alt-Right is a loose group, usually anyone who disagrees with the left is a "far-right extremist" according to the MSM. Also, all the right-wingers who don't support the republican neocons/retards and their estabilishment are "alternative" right-wingers.

There are many people involved in this kind of "movement" who don't care about homossexualism and transgenderism, they're more concerned with foreign policy, unrestricted immigration, multiculturalism, political correctness, the left-wing love for Islam and things like that.

I'll never understand a radfem tranny, though, radical feminism and TERFism walk together holding hands. On the other hand, regular non-trans exclusionary feminism makes sense to some weak-minded transwomen, since it's a movement that aims to maximize female sexual choices while minimizing male sexual choices. Feminists shame men who only want to date young and thin women (insecure transgirls can make use of the same tactics of intimidation and manipulation to shame non-trans attracted men as well).

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My fuckbuddy loves to kiss and lick my face, occasionally tease my feminine benis but tends to do nothing with my oversized nipples when that's the only part on my body that actually gives me pleasure. It's like he's disgusted by them or something. How do I convince him to play with my booblets too?
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omg my chaser buddy did the same. He was so focused on my ass and dicks and he touched my boob maybe once.

I didn't even get hard while he was sucking me. It felt meh at best.
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>>7457986
I meant dick lol
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>>7457973
He's gay, if he won't even suck on your titties that's some bullshit. Although to be fair, guys are bad at that anyway because it doesn't occur to them, but if he won't do it even after you tell him and he's focusing on the benis too much, I don't think he sees you as a girl. Sorry.

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Straight guy with a serious question here:

What do you guys think about this "objectification" and "sexualization" spiel that feminists are playing?
Do you feel that it contradicts your existence?

The way i see it, and correct me if i'm wrong,
the vast majority of the L and G parts of the LGBT are pretty much primarily defined by the opposite party's sex (outer appearance, organic traits, superficial traits, etc.).
This is pretty much in conflict with this feminist sex-negative idea which brands anyone a bigot who dares have specific preferences and aren't "open-minded" to EVERYONE like bisexuals.

On the account of lesbians, don't lesbians feel a tiny bit outraged by the idea that sexualized women are "only for the male gaze" as if lesbian females and straight males don't share at least some common ground with regards to how they like women? Are lesbians only allowed to prefer non-sexualized females?

Finally, isn't the very logic that the LGBT fights the logic that sex should be banned due to wild and wide-reaching slippery slopes?
When feminists blame objectification and sexualization as precursors to rape culture, aren't they basically on a path towards that old religious puritan shit where in this case sexual intercourse should be banned because rape happens to be a branch side-effect that grows out of it "for the better of society and morals and durr hurr"?

I would like your opinions on this.
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>>7457913
I just want a dude to cook for and who'll buy me lingerie to fuck me in.

t. mtf
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>>7457913

Whilst I do agree that SJWs and the more radical sex-negative feminists are on a slippery slope to puritanism which Im not keen on, they do have a point.

Generally speaking, sexualised women are not 'for the lesbian gaze' 99.9% of the time - it's designed around appealing to men, obviously so. If it appeals to us, it's a 'lucky' side effect, pretty much.
We're a tiny audience and market, so it's not exactly shocking or unfair, much as it's frustrating when all the lesbian porn in the world is aimed at men.

It's not 'outraging' in the slightest. I might not agree with everything they might say on the subject, but im not insulted if they imply everything's for men, since the vast majority of it is aimed at guys, for the benefit of guys, and usually put together by guys as well.
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Nobody gives a shit what you think, and if they do, you probably just booty-blasted them.

Professional criticisms of sexual objectification are almost exclusively levied at mass media and advertisement companies due to their ubiquity and the widespread societal effect i.e. constant exposure to the same signs and symbols alluding to women being employed as objects, sexual or otherwise.

It's not wrong that you personally see women as sex objects (whether you do or don't) what's wrong is that we are surrounded by signs that reinforce this perspective. The
>muh lesbians
Argument is stupid, because it assumes that lesbians share the same perspective as hetero men when exposed to images of women i.e. being the observer. Rather, both hetero and homo women tend to view images of women comparatively, seeing the image's subject as some version of themselves. This is why many women dislike the ideal, and purposely sexualized, imagery often found in media; because of the schism it creates between the viewer and sign, and the way it reinforces stereotypes to a point that fosters insecurity and an obsession with appearance in many young women (i.e. children) who are disproportionately influenced by what they observe.

In the 21st century and beyond, it's important to carefully consider the kinds of imagery we surround ourselves and more importantly, our children, with. Not to imply that children are somehow less intelligent or able to discern reality from imagery, but you and I and everyone around us have been and continue to be influenced by imagery in advertisement and media. Moreso now than any time in history, because of the sheer level of exposure we experience browsing the internet/watching TV/driving down the highway/reading magazines/playing video games/etc.

Tl;dr study semiotics

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>be closeted trans (mtf) and bi
>straight qt girl flirts with you or calls you cute

Does anyone else know this abstract bittersweet feel ;—;
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I know this exact feeling, I am also a bi, closeted MTF. I'm two months on HRT now which makes it even weirder.
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I've spent the last month debating whether or not I should try hooking up with str8 girls and gay guys, and deal with the fact that they're only attracted to me as a man.
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im mtf and bi, but don't know that feel because complete socially isolated weirdo

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The day before Christmas edition

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• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
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KEKEKEKKEKEKE
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>>7457684
report shitposting
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>OP pic
stop triggering my AGP please :(

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Hey /lgbt/ I think i'm broken...
>Like looking at women in porn (real and fictional)
>Find women attractive irl, not as picky as i am with men (like a 10-to-1 ratio)
>Want to have a family

BUT
>Cannot get an erection when it comes time to have sex with them (Not stressed out either)

On the flip side to this
>Haven't had sex with a guy yet but get aroused and erections simply from reading or fantasizing about them.

So what the fuck's wrong with me, why am I so fucking broken? I mean I'm not gay but I had to force sex with both my female exes. I found them attractive, physically and mentally and wasn't stressed in the bedroom. I'm open to the idea of dating a guy but it's much rarer i'll find see someone i like, so that can't mean i'm gay.
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Oh, this again. Time to give you the standard response

>ngga you're gay
>heteronormativity means you grew up without examples of gay relationships
>heteronormativity means you grew up without examples of families with two daddies
>you want to be normal like all the other breeders
>the possibility of having family as gay guy hasn't entered your brain yet cause of being new to the whole gay thing
>everything else is just noise

homosexuality + heteroromantism = closeted faggot
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>>7457685
I've been jerking off to men for years now, I just figured straight guys wind up doing that too since there's a big difference between reality and fiction (which porn tends to lean towards).

If i were gay or even bi i just figure i'd find as many men attractive as i do women in my daily routines.
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>>7457697
straight men do not jack it to gay porn. ngga you're gay and in denial. you're not bi, bi means jacking it to women. you're gay.

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Do you like short men?

I'm Mexican and the average Mexican height is 1.64.
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but anon this thread already got deleted why are you remaking it :c
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>>7457537
As long as they are fit, jock and beefy and not midget tier

I can work with short guys
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>>7457537
as long as they arent more than like 3 inches shorter than me

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Can HRT make you gay?

I started estrogen a few years ago. I was bi when I started, but over time I've lost my interest in women. Whenever I fantasize about my future partner it's a guy (that's always kinda been the case but still). Has anyone else dealt with this, and how?
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same here, but it was more of a coming out of repression thing, rather than losing interest in women. i had a decent amount, but in hindsight it felt pretty fake/forced. maybe same for you?
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>>7457369
This is how it was for me. I feel in retrospect, my female relationships were simply me trying to experience femininity vicariously through others. All my relationships with women, including longer ones, eventually fizzled out because I didn't want to have sex with them.

I only date guys now and its waaaay better for me.
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>>7457369

Basically this.

I'm bi,but eache day I lean a little more towards men.

I always wanted the kind of freedom I have now.

Also, slept with women, but somehow, although women turned me on, pussies never turned me on. In the other hand, cocks and men turn me on, so a naked man for me is a complete sexual partner, whereas a girl is not (non-op trans girls might be an exception, but never tried that and that's not in my near future).

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>you will never be rose
;_;
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>>7457352
What you mean is
>you will never be attractive.
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>>7458221
>rose
>attractive
she looks like an ayylmao
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>>7458541
She looks like a confused woodland animal.

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MtF here, would date FtM
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>>7457347
bi mtf here. would date anything except a ftm
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i would desu

however he'd still have to be decently tall to make me feel better about myself

;_;

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Why do any gay men like shitty pop stars?

It's literally the worst stereotype of any kind and sadly they exist.

Why?
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Because the most flamboyant of gay men (fags) like to perpetuate the stereotype surrounding being a fag, and that includes broadcasting their love of shitty pop stars, talking with a lisp, and just acting like a ponce.
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>>7457170
Flamboyance is fine, just stop enabling "musicians" with 10+ song writers.

Literally human instruments given a script.
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>>7457138
>>7457170

Fuck off, rockists

Christmas Eve Part II edition!

• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/ merry christmas!
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

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>>7456798
You just know how to flatter me
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>>7456727
why are we so chill in dreams?
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>>7456780
You gonna go for it then?
>>7456799
june u r an enigma

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>>7456729
I've never heard of this phenomenon. Typically detransitioners are too ashamed of their existence and stay under the radar trying to live a normal life
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A lot of detransitioned FtMs were never FtM to start with, just trenders. In the 70s and 80s, it was hip among feminists to pretend to be a lesbian for political reasons. Then, it became hip to pretend to be trans to push the "gender is a social construct" narrative. At first, it was cool to be an FtM if you were a radfem. Then they realized that taking testosterone as a cis woman is a horrible idea. This is why "nonbinary" women have been popping up everywhere in the past 20 years or so and why they are all radical feminists into that intersectional postmodernist crap. A lot of MtF detransitioners do so because of outside pressure (i.e. all family and friends suddenly cutting ties and the MtF hating it, experiencing violence and getting discouraged, etc.) or because they were never trans to begin with and were actually just an effeminate dude or a crossdressing fetishist that got themselves all confused.
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>>7456729
one or more of the following:
1. it's pretty much the only community in the entire world that will accept ftmtfs
2. a lot of ftmtfs detransition BECAUSE they discovered terf philosophy, or otherwise found becoming more sympathetic to it was a factor in their decision to detransition
3. a lot of people are transitioning ftm who probably shouldn't, and given terfs are almost exactly like tumblrinas but use different words it's really easy to switch from one to the other (milo stewart is currently at the beginning of this transition)

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So my estrogen synapses have burned out and estrogen no longer works. My butt is shrinking, my breasts are shrinking, my stomach is getting bigger, none of my clothes are fitting any more, and I don't get turned on anymore.

Should i just end it now? I think the universe is begging me to kill myself at this point.
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>>7456717
How the hell did that happen and how do I avoid it?
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i don't think this is a real thing
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Please tell me this isn't real. You're going to give me tranny koro.

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A mental illness is ‘a condition which causes serious disorder in a person’s behaviour or thinking.’

The Condition isn’t quite articulated right now, there is info out there but nothing is concrete yet.

We think of order as the most popular pattern that occurs in all humans, which in terms of sexuality is straight. So we view it like this; I’m picturing a road that everyone drives on, and if you don’t experience the ‘gay’ condition, you will continue on this road of order and you remain straight. And when people experience the ‘gay’ condition they go on a detour, a road that is not on the previous road of order, to a road of disorder of behaviour or thinking.
You also need to go through a condition to be on that road of order where you are straight, whether that condition is just being born. So, that means some conditions cause order and some cause disorder. And this way of thinking means that being gay is a mental illness…

But I don’t think I view it like that…
The definition of mental illness talks about a specific person’s behaviour or thinking, not a specific person’s behaviour or thinking relative to every other human being. And so on an individual level, I picture everyone on their own road of order that is evolving everyday, where we all go through conditions (genetic or otherwise), that changes our behaviour or thinking from yesterday.
To be straight you need to go through conditions that create the road that leads you to be straight and the same for gay people. That goes for every behaviour and thought you have… So in this way of thinking that means every thought and behaviour of ours is either an ever-evolving order or ever-evolving disorders.
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>>7456529
no
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>>7456529
yes
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>>7456529

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