/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

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>>34539568
If you ain't infantry, you ain't shit.

>>34539597
>implying you should ever go infantry

That saying was retarded when I joined, and its still retarded now.

>>34539612
I was infantry. Now I work at NASA.

>Game: Blouses.

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Navy reserve, Air National Gaurd or National Gaurd are the only branches that work for me since I want to stay in my home state after basic and tech school.
5'10, 170lb, fit. 22 year old.Completely clean background. Very good ASVAB. Dropout (good grades, sudden orphan). Want to get into any of the L.E. rates to improve my chances of getting into DEA or ATF after I use the tuition reimbursement to finish my degree (Chemistry). Is this a flawed plan? Any advice appreciated.

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>>34539454

ME is moving more towards DSF (Deployable Specialized Forces) which are the "operators" in pic related

I think they do milpol at some units like alaska,

Usually they end up being boarding officers or law enforcement trainers on boats.

From what I understand about getting jobs, your class ranking and fitness score allow you to chose the unit you want to go to, so basically if you work out all the time and study hard, you can get any position you want.

ME is in pretty High demand, thats why the waiting list is long, but depending on how many people leave, it varies from year to year. Overall, you can do any job you are qualified to do, as long as you wait it out. I wanted to do ME, but in hindsight, I learned almost everything they do and I didnt need to take a gamble at being security forces somewhere.

I have not met many people who failed, because they basically put you on probation unless you cannot fix the issue, which means you get at least a second try. The biggest issues are failure to perform tasks like accurately frisking and finding weapons on people ( because that endangers lives in real scenarios) or you cant pass the pepper spray test, or you cant perform physically. for reference, here is the CG fitness standard
for boot camp. Its not much higher in the fleet. All units use the boat crew fitness test (cant fid it now), but its basically like 11 minute 1.5 miles , 40 pushups and 50 sittups or something like that.

Usually the guys trying for DSF strive to get to tier 1 fitness test levels of fit, but its not a technical requirement

MEs can also go to international training teams and teach other navies and coast guards in far away lands once they make e5/e6. Also great for going contractor or law enforcement after

>>34539568
christ was a commie

>>34539654
pound sand heretic

Anyone have exp as 19D? Is it easy to transfer to mechanic after a contract as a scout?

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>>34539643
>ATF
Stay away from my dog!

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>>34539643

coast guard reserve
>get counter narcotic training
>get LE training
>work with DEA
>go GM and work with guns all day
>go ME and do law enforcement all day
>go IS and get inel training for transfer to DEA ATF
>go BM/MK and then become BO (federal agent) and do law enforcement

if active duty, you can get deployed to wonderful places like miami beach or texas

ACTIVE DUTY IS GIVING OUT 4K A YEAR FOR FREE COLLEGE,
>YEAH BABY!!!

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>>34539643

Do you have your GED? You should talk to a recruiter for the air national guard if there is a base in your area. I have a couple buddies from my platoon (USMC) that went air national guard after 4 years with the Marines. So far they have all said its been a good gig. I think two of them are refuelers and one is an ammo tech, the same jobs they had in the Marines.

>>34539687
Not interested in active duty and from what I understand ME is a long wait, probably even more so for a reservist.
>>34539729
I'm a college dropout not high school. I have a diploma & 1 year of coursework left for my B.S. in Chemistry.
And I live 15 min from a Joint Army/Air Force base and 1 hr from a Naval Base.

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Guaranteed rating A school for fy17 and signing bonuses for Coast Guard enlistment

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>>34539821

I would go talk to an AF recruiter then if I were you and really wanted to join.

>>34539821

reservist ME i went to boot camp with got guaranteed ME rate, people were super jealous. You wont know until you talk to a recruiter, also BM and MK do most of the day to day law enforcement, they had like 1-2 month waiting periods I think

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>>34539568
I leave for Fort "Chill" Sill in September. I'll be leaving my life of 2X years in California behind. My wish list is only overseas, which are 1-Japan, 2-Germany, and 3-Korea. I aint got no family and I aint got no frenz. I'll be in OK for over 20 weeks during my training. I need to go apply to a local community college tonight, but I was thinking about the people there. If I wanted to make some friends, I prefer female over male any day as guys are fucking retarded and autistic with their "hobbies" and what not, where should I go about making a friend or two to pass the time while I'm there...sweating my ass off from the humidity that I won't be used to, while freezing my balls off from +30 MPH winds.

>>34539745
>Should I see a psyche to check out my mental health and go through a panel or something to verify I am mentally well?

You can if you want to pay extra money, I would first suggest that you see if you can get by with a letter , and if they tell you no, then you can get a re-evaluation done to show you are fine.

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>>34539900
those digits are wasted on you. hope you get hazed to death.

Is airfirce enlistment that really such a toss up in terms of getting what jobs you want?

>>34540089
Fucking mobile, Airforce*

>>34539826
>>34539687
How much actual law enforcement do MKs do compared to maintenance?
Also to become a BO what kind of requirements are there? Is it like becoming an officer in other branches

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>>34539957

>>34539643
>good grades, sudden orphan
shit man, sorry to hear that

>>34539901
Finances for this shouldn't be an issue.
MEPS wanted these records/letters returned to them within some 60 days, does anyone know what happens if someone exceeds said 60 days?
On another note, are Age Waivers much of a thing for Marines, or even any other branches? I heard they don't come by these days often at all. Any different for reserve contracts? (I'm oldfag by enlistment standards.)

Jjust read that you need to take a PFT BEFORE you even get accepted to coast guard basic

Was that bullshit

>>34540346
Thanks. Been a rough couple of years but I'm at peace with it all. Shit happens.

>>34540190

Boarding officer is a qualification code, i just means that you wnt to the several month law enforcement school, which makes you a federal agent. The course is open to all e4 and above.

>How much actual law enforcement do MKs do compared to maintenance?

That depends on the unit. the Command may decide to put ou on a bot to do boardings all day for 90% of your job if you are good at LE, or they might make you work in the shop if you are not good at LE or your qual lapses for poor fitness etc.

There is an online course to cover fundamentals of boarding and LE, followed by a trip to the federal LE training center where you learn the concepts of LE with hands on tasks (like a police academy)

>>34541114

That's new, It used to be you had to do it your 1st/2nd week there ???

What AFB should I put on my wishlist lads after OTS?

>>34541549
Joint base Lewis-Mcchord

>>34539654
>Give onto Caesar what is Caesars and give unto the Lord what is The Lord's"

I pussied out of the navy about 2 years ago and regret it every other day.

I got told if I backed out, I'd get blacklisted out of any possible recruitment of any branch. I was a turbo fat, no-goal, alcoholic back then. I've lost a ton of weight, and have been sober for over a year. Is there anything I can possibly do to redeem myself or should I just accept that door has closed?

I heard that it's next to impossible to get hired as a 35M. Is this true?

>>34542500
*as a civvy

>>34542331
He clearly supports taxation. Damn commie bastard.

>>34541806
Looks nice. How's the weather

>>34542402
Lies. Did the same thing, navy dude said the same "blacklist" thing, then I went on to do my 4 for the Corps.

>>34542519
I got accepted to join the Army as a 31D and am putting JBL as one of my three stateside choices.

I used to live in Tacoma and have some family in the area. Weather is often gloomy, but you get enough nice days. A lot to do in the area, a bunch of major metropolitan areas to visit; obviously Seattle but Bellevue is really nice too.

If I went 19D or 11B, what would daily life consist of? Just train all day or what?

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How bad is the Marine Corps when it comes to POG jobs?

>>34543089
Completely pointless

Redpill me on Air crew positions in the Air Force

How often will I get to inseminate a girl during training?

I'm about to enlist but I'm a virgin.

I want to plant my seed in girl butts not boy butts

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Just reserved a 68w opt 4 contract. Any tips for meps? How many guys suck their stomach in to make tape measurements?

I am kinda autistic but not in a debilitating way.

I take only one medicine and its at the lowest dose possible, I've largely grown out of it.

I want to join the military because everyone In my family has joined in some way or another.

I dont want to be the lone shithead. Whats the likely hood of me being turned down by the recruiter?

>>34543682
>I am kinda autistic but not in a debilitating way.
Has a doctor said you are autistic or not?
>I take only one medicine and its at the lowest dose possible, I've largely grown out of it.
What drug is it? For what did you get the prescription?

>>34543182
How so, if you don't mind me asking?

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>>34539568
Any Canadian Forces anons here? I was wondering about the medical, what its like and if they check records.

>>34543646
>tape measurements?
I've never heard of tape measurements

>>34543714
Not that guy, but the Marines are all about muh riflemen, so when you aren't a rifleman people will look down on your for not being a "real" Marine. Also, most of the useful POG jobs for the Marines are actually done by the Navy, so that just adds more fuel to the fire.

>>34543786
naval and neck measurements for people who are considered overweight in relation to their height.

>>34539612
found the fatty

>>34543701
>1st question
Yes, I was diagnosed when I was five.
>2nd question
Its Latuda, but I was not prescribed it for what it usually treats. I do not have depression, I was prescribed this for sleep.

Why is everyone so mean in the military :-:

>>34543862

Are you going to be friendly when a sand nigger is shooting at you?

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>>34543847
anyone know when a guard unit makes you take a piss test? i would be going to drill as prior service at said unit for a year before going to reclass school. is there a meps trip involved before i start going to drill?

When in Basic does the Army PFT happen?

I'm thinking of going 68W in the Army. Good idea or not?
Either way, I want to do something in the medical field.

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>>34543921
once every 3 weeks, some DS will do mock PT test though

>>34543900
Im white why are they mean to me :((

>>34543925
some of the best people i met in infantry units were medics. you could end up in a wide range of units though.

>>34543953
because you're weak

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>befriend someone with PTSD
>he's a serious drug addict, constantly tries to monopolize my time, always bitches about being lonely and not having any friends

Is it insensitive to tell someone this annoying to leave me alone? He constantly makes terrible decisions and acts like "Yeah dude I don't give a fuck" and I don't want him to drag me down when I'm on the verge of enlisting myself.

>>34543986
I'm 6'2, 110kg lean and deadlift 380kg

I'm far from weak

>>34543990
At the end of the day it's your life not his, don't let him drag you down

>>34544016
you're mentally weak.

>>34544037
I literally have telekenisis because I'm so mentally strong

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>>34544026
I feel bad because he was really in some deep shit during his deployments and he has serious emotional scars, but it's just constantly "Yo dude let's go grab a drink," "yo dude you busy?"

I went to his house once and it's a fucking pigsty. He had one room that looked completely demolished and when I asked him about what happened he said that it's because of his wife trying to get a divorce and he just came in one day and started throwing shit. Fucking took his medication with the beers we were drinking.

>>34544059
so why the fuck do you care that they're mean to you?

How hard is it to promote in 19D compared to 11X?
can 19D go to Ranger School?
Is it better to do a Combat Arms job and just use GI hill to learn a decent skill, or should I pick a technical job that I won't hate?

>>34544068
just enable him but be blunt, he's probably got thick enough skin. he just needs your friendship, if he needs help he'll figure out one way eventually.

>>34544090
i think they opened ranger school up to cav's a few years ago. I can't comment on prmotion since i dont have a clue.

>>34544069
I don't

U mad bro?

>>34544095
Thanks for the insight, man.

>>34544090
>19D go to Ranger School?
they should be able to go, air force security forces even sends select airmen to go to ranger school

>>34543953
>>34544016
>>34544120
>asking why they're mean to you

Any tips for the 'Personality test" the army makes you take before the meps physical?

>>34544157
You sound epic mad bro!

>>34543919

When I was in the National Guard, we took a piss test once a year right before AT

>>34544171
never knew i was given one. either its a new requirement or it's something the recruiters verify from communicating with you.

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>>34544176

>>34544176
all of 4chan is infected with you maggots by now. go fuck off back to literally anywhere but here, then die in a fire.

>>34544186
Thanks anon, what state?

What branch would you dudes recommend for intelligence work, would plan on going to OCS rather than enlist.

>>34544204
>>34544208
Why you so salty bro? Is it cause I'm rich?

Can you use your high school id for meps? I understand you need a state ID or drivers licence to ship out, but for the initial meps visit and physical would my high school id suffice?

>>34544240
you need to find a different army recruiter than the one you were talking about yesterday. what did the navy say?

>>34544290
probably not, ask your recruiter

>>34544247
i can smell maple syrup from here you filthy canadian

>>34544290
ask recruiter

>>34544296
This is my first time in an /meg/ thread, don't have a recruiter. I'm testing the waters so to speak, considering military as a possible career change option. Just looking for various opinions and information.

>>34544329
call them and tell us what they say about your options, you can figure out alot from here and the internet about what you want to do.

>>34544220

Virginia

>>34544359
Thanks. I'll lurk more and come back with more specific questions after I've done more research.

>>34544388
what branch you thinking?

>>34543974
I heard about that, and I'd be a-okay with it.

Anyone have experience with Artillery on the Marine side?
I've been reading most people who sign up with a combat support contract end up there, but wanted to go tanks.
Most of the jobs in the contract sound like sweet gigs, but I do want to join for a 18xx MOS.
Any help?

>>34544369
do you know if thats common practice for guard units?

>>34544450

Uh I don't really know. I was only in the National Guard for 2 years. I did 3 years active duty, then re-enlisted into the Guard for 2

Any FO's up in this shithole today?

>>34544437
Army, Navy, Air Force, in that order. Interested mainly in Intel or MP, college graduate.

>>34544648
why don't you have a DL?

Would you be in favor of overhauling the Navy's current dress blues?

>>34544841
No, why?

>>34544780
I'm probably interpreting this wrong, but I have a driver's license.

>>34544841
dress uniforms are a joke... aside from field/duty specific gear there really is no need for them, other than to assist in panty dropping efforts/objectives.

>>34545017
why were you asking about high school id?

>>34545057
Pretty sure you're responding to the wrong anon, I haven't mentioned anything about high school. I'm a college graduate.

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>>34543921
During mine we did it a few times. Well I had OSUT so it was a little different. When we first got there we did a 1/1/1. A timed one mile run, and 1 minute to do as many push ups and sit ups as you can. Then at end of the Basic portion of our training we did the BPFT, where you only needed 50 points in each event to pass. Then halfway through our AIT portion we did the actually APFT, where you need 60 in each event.

For the people who failed the APFT, they got to redo it in the weeks coming up to the end of training. That happened about two or three more times iirc.

>>34544090
>can 19D go to Ranger School?
nope, 85th doesn't have any slots for cav scout so no RASP. you can still do airborne though

Anyone have exp as 19D? Is it easy to transfer to mechanic after a contract as a scout?

>>34544841
I personally just want the officer/chief whites as an junior enlisted.

>>34539597
>If you ain't infantry, you ain't shit.

Describe a practical plan for a twenty year or longer infantry career and tell us why that's better than every other option. Enlighten us, o' wondrous grunt!

>>34539660
>Is it easy to transfer to mechanic

Why? That's a bizarre career path. FFS don't work on anything that doesn't fly. If you like wrenching, get into aviation maintenance. I've no idea why anyone would go Army to do that though. If want to wrench, go Air Force. If want to be a scout, be a scout.

Seriously, that's incredibly odd. Reason?

>>34540089
No, just score well and get guaranteed job choices in writing. Anything verbal is worthless.

If you have to go Delayed Enlistment to get a slot, do that.

>>34543990
He's done. You aren't. Avoid losers because you not only cannot help them, they can fuck up your world.

>>34545680
I just want to get some combat in before i get too old for it. I don't wanna life a combat MOS, and working on vehicles is something I fancy and wouldn't mind doing for years to come.

>>34543523
Goto Air Force forums. f16.net is a good one.

>>34541549
Overseas. Fuck CONUS even when CONUS is good. You'll have mad fun in Europe if you can get it, and Japan and Korea are nice for the Air Force. Go see the fucking world and get paid for it. If you knock out a short tour to Korea early then you have that out of the way and can hunt long tours elsewhere.

Joining the military to stay in CONUS is silly. Retire in CONUS, explore first. Don't neglect little out of the way detachments in the Azores *(get hops all over Europe) , Spain (there are a few USAF slots) etc as well as Germany and Italy.

Did two years in Germany and begged to extend, but so did everyone else. Enjoyed Kunsan in Korea because the Air Force isn't the Army. Many Airmen volunteer for multiple Korean tours. Visited Japan and would have happily PSCed there.

I never met anyone stationed in Alaska that didn't enjoy it. I only passed thru because I'm a motorcyclist who avoids winter.

>>34545738
>I just want to get some combat in before i get too old for it.
You will just be working out and cleaning, there is nothing to do for combat roles outside of SOF anymore

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>>34543580
Weekly insemination is provided for the top PTer in the Navy.

They get to inseminate the 2nd best PTer, which is rarely a girl, but from what I recall most "seamen" envy the experience these brave boys gain in boot camp.

>>34545872
well anything can happen in 4-6 years, so who knows, might get a shot. Still want to go through the trainning. Seems like a good time.

I worked in banking for 5 years, and can't stand it anymore. The Army combat MOS has been on my list of shit to do while im young, so I'm gonna push through with it.

>>34543646
they make you exhale a few times to prevent people sucking it in but when you get taped flex your Abs, since loose abs will distend your belly.try to lose some water weight before you go in for the physical by

1. keto diet ( loses water weight quickly and easy diet for beginners )

2.drinking 5+ Liters of water the days before ( so your body drops some excess water )

3. drink little water days before ( both methods work the same for me personally when I had to make weight for sports, but drinking less water can go further when REALLY trying to drop water )

if you have a few months simply change your diet, its about 8 - 10 pounds of fat is about a inch from the waist.

lastly work out your neck for size ( may take a week/s to months to see increases in size) with small weight raises nothing too hard obviously.

>>34545889
Dose anyone actually find this funny?

>>34539643
sorry for your loss

>>34539643
Shit dude, I'm so sorry. I'm sure they're extremely proud of what you're about to accomplish.

I think that the NG have a Minuteman scholarship which can definitely help you out should you go down that road. It pays up to around ~$10,000 for your schooling, which can easily net you the remainder of a degree provided you manage it wisely and avoid living on campus.

Asking again just to see if there's anymore opinions.

If MEPS requests counseling statements from a location, and you do not give them the complete amount, can it have repercussions?

I ask because some of these counselings had what I am told is a sort of tentative/technical diagnose of Depression/Adjustment Disorder while dealing with life issues, but I guess more for billing reasons than me actually being depressed.
Just afraid this legal technicality could get people fucked over.

Hey guys, I'm really torn on what career field to choose as an Army officer, and I'm wondering if someone could help me out.

First off - not to brag, but I feel it's important - my recruiters told me I received the highest score they'd seen yet on the practice ASVAB. I mention this because I feel like I should have a good shot at choosing whichever career field I'd like.

I really want to go special forces (18x or whatever it is) but I also want to get out with skills I can utilize in the civilian world. I'm also considering 35n and 35m (intelligence), but I'm slightly worried about what a background check might dig up (my state's law allows you to deny any arrest history, and I received a couple minor, non-prosecuted infractions as a youngin which didn't turn up on my fingerprints check).

My question is - which career path would provide me with the greatest level of satisfaction both during my army career and afterwards as a civ. I plan on enlisting for an 8 year period so I need to have a path forward after my service.

>>34548122
I'm also considering 74d ( chemical etc.) But I'm worried my Poli-sci degree won't combine with it well for careers post service. What would fit best for me? I'd also like to be an aide-de-camp at some point in my career, as I've worked as a high level executive assistant in the political realm, but I hear that's more of a career for senior officers.

>>34548033
You're seriously overthinking things right now. MEPS told you to "get paperwork x." If it's not complete, they'll say "hey, this isn't complete, so ask the doc for more." If they're satisfied with it, you go through. THEY have to tell YOU what you need to submit. Stop overthinking.

>>34548181
Aye, overthinking is how I got into this situation. Everyone's been telling me I do that in every facet of my life lately, habit I've been trying to figure out how to break. Past year made me into a chronic worrier.

>>34548122
>>34548178
Please advise if I'm asking in the wrong placr. Not sure if anyone here has experience with Army OCS.

>>34548122
>I'm really torn on what career field to choose as an Army officer
what? are you going to OCS or are you saying youre going to commission once youre already in later?

>my recruiters told me I received the highest score they'd seen yet on the practice ASVAB
Why don't you just say your score and stop beeting around the damn bush

>I really want to go special forces
You better be in fantastic shape

>which career path would provide me with the greatest level of satisfaction both during my army career and afterwards as a civ
We're not you so we cant tell you what will satisfy you

>I plan on enlisting for an 8 year period
???
How do you plan on that? That's not even a thing, most MOSs have a 4year enlistment, so you will have to re-enlist which is an important distinction.

> Poli-sci degree
Wow what a waste

I'm still confused, how are you enlisting with a MOS but also becoming an officer?

>>34548236
Relax. Just go to MEPS with what you have now. So what if the ""missing"" paperwork says depression or whatever? How do you even know that shit even existed to begin with? I haven't seen it, and I'm willing to bet you haven't personally inspected the paperwork with all those ICD codes and statements on there either. The paperwork you requested from the civvy docs didn't include that. That's not because you asked them to exclude it, they just didn't add it. The very paperwork MEPS wanted didn't include that. As far as you're aware, there is nothing else, because if there was your civvy doc would have given it to you. So now, you go to MEPS with that paperwork, and if, sometime down the line, some asshole says "anon, you forgot this!" you say "I was given what I was given. IF and only IF there was something missing (which I'm not acknowledging), it's the fault of the civvy docs who left shit out and the meps docs who noticed no discrepancies!" YOU are not at fault if you aren't given exactly what you asked for. If anyone tries to pin this on you, you show them the written proof that you asked for everything and the responsibility falls on the civvy docs. Your due diligence will consist of the shit you've written down and can shove in the face of anyone who thinks you're up to no good. So, stop overthinking this. If you requested paperwork and it wasn't given to you, it probably never existed in the first place.

>>34548265
>enlisting with MOS but still becoming an officer
Still really confused about all the technicalities and lingo. I'm planning on going to OCS with the Army. My recruiter seems to think I have a good shot - got a 99 on the PICAT and a 95 on whatever that preliminary GT ASVAB they had me take was (which they claim was the high score in their office).

My goal is to develop a foreign policy portfolio and hopefully end up with a job as a DC lobbyist/defense industry analyst after my career as an officer ends (not sure how long they are but I thought they were 8 years).

>>34548333
Nigger ok are you talking to a enlisted recruiter or specifically an army recruiter?
Cause it sounds like your recruiter is about to sucker your ass. If you are going to be an officer you definitely wont be enlisting as an 18x.

>>34548333
I honestly don't even know where the process goes from here. My recruiter has been sort of slow to answer questions (possibly because of waiting on some confirmation for something that turned up on my fingerprints).

Does anyone by chance know if you can get letters of rec from relatives that were officers (grandfather and cousin, specifically)?

>>34548363
Haven't even mentioned 18x to him yet. I was more wondering what the process is for becoming an SF officer. I get that you won't be leading a Ranger team straight out of Benning.

>>34548401
I typed it wrong, I meant are you talking to a specific officer recruiter?

18x doesn't have anything to do with rangers.

Pretty sure you gotta be in the top % of infantry officers than put in for it or something along those lines.

>>34548446
Ok, well that answers my question as to whether you can pursue SF careers without being an infantry officer.

So far everyone has discouraged me from going infantry but I wasn't sure that you couldn't transition from a different MOS to 18x and etc.

As you can tell, I have very little knowledge of how the Army is structured. But I'm 100% committed on going to OCS and I'm doing my best to learn as much as I can. My recruiter seems very busy and I haven't been able to learn too much from him so far.

>>34548446
>>34548477

You don't need to be an infantry officer to apply for 18A (SF officer). Not that it matters, if you're going to OCS you don't get to pick your job as an officer, you have to compete for it.

Your recruiter is fucking with you about the ASVAB score either way. A 95 on the ASVAB means you did better than 95 % of people...which means you're a one-in-twenty find. Great score, but if it's "the best they've ever seen" then that recruiting office has been open like a month.

Anything over 90 they'll start sucking your dick and telling you that you're the greatest, but in reality anything over 80 qualifies you for all jobs.

>>34548477
I'm getting so confused cause your terminology is so wrong.
18X is a specific enlistment option. Youre not enlisting.

For the 3rd time, are you talking to an actual officer recruiter? Or just some random douche in the mall?

>>34548526
Correct

>>34548526
>recruiter fucking with me
They were pretty genuine but I had a feeling that this was the case.

Anyways, what will I need to do to best qualify and compete for Army intelligence? I have a pretty strong background and etc., and I feel that it's the best use of an Int'l Relations degree.

Anyone pursue this MOS that can offer information regarding how invasive the background investigations are?

>>34548588
Actual officer recruiter in an Army career center. I'm in the process of building my packet.

>>34548588
>>34548606
Funny because the Army doesn't have "officer recruiters". You are still enlisting, it's just as 09S which gives you a chance to go to OCS after BCT

>>34548590

If you want to enlist - congrats, you qualify. Pretty much any ASVAB score in the mid 80s or up will qualify you for most of the intel jobs.

If you want to commission - intel is highly competitive, so you'll have to beat out your peers in terms of PT scores, college GPA, and during classes/exercises at OCS. The type of degree you have is mostly irrelevant.

>>34548639
You sure? Is that really how it works?

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>>34548639
>>34548682

While there are no "officer recruiters' except those of the service academies, there are special cases where some officer programs are handled at least initially by enlisted recruiters. However, since you will soon outrank them, they tend to put the enlisted guys ahead of you in priority

>>34548265

My final contract said 8 years enlisted with 4 years reserve, The guy kept trying to get me to sigh it and I refused because I said he fucked up the paperwork. Its possible if someone messes up.

Also it sounds like the recruiters is giving him the whole "naw mayn youll get gud at being enlisted and then go officer, just sign here, its all legit, i promise"

>>34548682
Yes
>>34549057
This is irrelevant information. For the sake of this guy, who said he is in an "Army career service center", he's talking to an enlisted recruiter about enlisting as 09S. If he failed OCS for whatever reason he would still be obligated to serve as enlisted, so he's enlisting.

>>34549098

You process in as enlisted for army WOFT and then get guaranteed warrant OCS. That is the only anomalous program that comes to mind (enlist as E5 with orders to OCS upon completion of boot camp)

Should I go Army or Muhreens? Most of my relative s have been Army, but my granddad went into the corps. (Crazy bastard was fucking around in Nagasaki less than a month after the bomb. It's a wonder my family don't have three arms.) Anyway, I'm leaning MC because of the uniforms.

>>34549741
I may have an issue with the fact that I only have a GED. Is that really a big obstacle? (It's not ideal, but I managed to do extremely well on the tests despite only ~2-3 months of formal education, so...)

>>34549098
>fail OCS and get enlisted
Are you high?

>>34549903

This happens, but it's rare.

You attend an OCS board and get selected for an OCS contract before you enlist, so it's not like they're going to divert you to a regular enlisted contract instead of OCS. However, if you attend OCS and fail/quit, you have to serve out your enlisted obligation.

Basically it requires an OCS board to say "yeah, this guy seems like officer material" and then you go and fuck it up later on down the line, usually by doing something idiotic.

>>34549949
Ok, I thought he was inferring that you would have to enlist even if you didn't pass the review board. From what I understand OCS has a 90% pass rare though

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I'm thinking about joining Navy as a gunner's mate, but how is life being stationed on a ship? Is it miserable? Will I still be able to bring video games onto the ship?

>>34550026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqyMXw96CfE
I hope you like sleeping in a rack in a room smaller than a prison cell.

I want to go 35M in the Army because I heard you could get a good career with that when you get out, but now I'm reading that it's almost impossible to start a career with that MOS. Is that true?

>Post in a forum about OTS information since I wanted information
>Several people get asshurt because I said OTS was my "Last resort" if I couldnt find a job

Should I expect this sorta melodrama from the military?

>>34549741
>>34549765
Marine Corps requires you to have 15 college credits to enlist, or a High School Diploma, they won't accept a GED alone.
Citation: I'm coming in with a GED + 15 100+ level credits.
Important notes: They DO NOT accept 01-99 level classes, for example Math 052 means jackshit.They DO NOT accept CLEP credits for this purpose, I learned the hard way, even if the recruiters were impressed.

Army accepts just plain GED a bit as far as I know, but I'm unsure of other services.
In any case,15 credits is ONE semester of college or basically two part-time.

>>34550113
Getting a civilian job is easier than OTS though. I think youre expectations are skewed here.

>>34550121
I wish. Even with a Masters + jobs through under
grad + grad school getting a basic public sector (Admin Assistant) job seems to be a real bitch.

>>34550135
What major?

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>>34550195
MBA

>>34550116
Well, I was told by an acquaintance who EASd a bit ago that I can still get in if I do well enough on the ASVAB. Besides, I need the GI bill for college money.

>>34550204
So you went to an MBA program and still couldn't find a job? You're supposed to network with other people and use connections to get a job. Also, you can use craigslist or linkedin to find a job that wants people with MBA's. Don't know why you're hung up on public sector. I think you have a little autism since you couldn't figure out that going to an air force forum and telling them that OTS is a last resort would be received negatively. That autism might be holding you back from getting a job. I'd say work on your personality first and foremost, because at this rate it won't matter where you go; people will get sick of you and you'll be pushed out, passive aggressively or not, each and every time.

>>34550026

It varies by unit, some people wire the shit out of their racks with vidya and flat screens. It can be miserable though depending on size of ship. Also some duty stations suck if single.

>I talked to someone who said their gunners mate threatened to an hero after 3 years at the same ship

>other gunners mates I have talked to loved it. One told me about how he volunteered to go with the army into iraq

>some of them love the lack of watch rotation on big boats, aslo minimal maintenance when you have a large GM shop

Field can also shift, some of them work on missile/torpedo, others do SPECWAR, and others do small arms. There are also ammo jobs that are not the greatest. What are you hoping o get out of it? I might be able to get you some suggestions and see if its the right choice?

>>34550238
He said I needed to score above the 50th percentile. The ASVAB can't be too much harder than the GED tests, right? I scored in ~90th percentile on those.

>>34550068
You get used to it. Also this si why you avoid big ships at all costs.

>>34550026
GM is a good job dude, as I said, avoid big ships if you can. Aim for a cruiser or destroyer.

>>34550068

I used to have a komfy kave with an xbox and laptop wired to a flatscreen. And rack sizes vary based on boat configuration. Also some living spaces double as work areas on some boats

>>34550320

are small ships (CYCLONE class PC) also to be avoided?

>>34550350
Yes definitely. To small for there own good. I'm telling everyone thinking NAVY shoot for a cruiser or destroyer. Anything bigger is way bigger and theyre faggy amphibs. Anything much smaller cant even go on open ocean well.

>>34550273
Nah.

>>34550320
>Aim for a cruiser or destroyer.
IN THAT ORDER! Cruisers are the best!

>>34550375
Correct, were you on a cruiser? What ship my nig

How much money do you get from the GI bill? What does it depend on?

Is bit enough to get a bachelor's or masters from not a top school

>>34550437
Chosin

>>34550590
word, I was on Antietam and cowpens 2010-14

>>34550499
which gi bill nig, plus if you google it youll find a full description

>>34550499

I dont hink you can still get the money based one. It used to be like 100k or something.

The post 9/11 Which I think DOD still uses is based on semesters in school, you can go to any school (no cost limitations) for a given number of months, and you get paid BAH (house money) and food money

There is a minimum service requirement to get benefits, and it varies by reserve or active i think

>Is [it] enough to get a bachelor's or masters from not a top school

Yes, also while you are in, you can get what is called tuition assistance, which is basically use it or loose it free money that gets allocated every year to anybody who asks. You can use usually around 3-5k per year (varies) to go to accredited schools at 250/ credit hour

>>34550305
>>34550238
Same guy replying to you, but, IDK. I think technically Marines can accept GEDs, but I have no idea if many recruiting stations have those slots. I just know, with any branch they typically fill GED slots at the beginning of the fiscal year. Said slots are often not the juiciest jobs either so I hear.

>>34550650
Why do people like you even reply when youre wrong as fuck? If you don't know something just stay quiet.

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>>34550602
>>34550590

plebs, not being on the komfiest boats America has

>4-6 man staterooms for entire crew

>>34550677
Ya but youre in the faggy CG. Lets compare how many countries you've been to vs me puddle pirate.

>>34550602
>cowpens
i heard some interesting things about cowpens...

>>34550677
i bet your swimming test was probably just wading in waist deep water, faggot.

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>>34539568
So, twenty-one year old kid in Calgary here.

I am legit considering going for Armoured Soldier(https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/caf-jobs/career-options/fields-work/combat-specialists/armoured-soldier.html) for a year or two just for the money and the experience of it all. Maybe as a Reservist, I dont know.

Anyone have any anecdotes as tank operators in the Canadian Armed Forces?

I think tanks are cool and I'm pretty sure Im smart enough to learn how to fix one, so I should be all set? It couldn't be harder than a car, right? It's basically just a big car but with treads, yeah?

>>34550693
>i heard some interesting things about cowpens...
lmao I'm sure you did, if its about all the shit that happened on the 13-14 deployement I was there for all of it so ask away.

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>>34550700

I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW IT WAS ONLY ANKLE DEEP!!!

>>34550687

>you can get deployed OCONUS in the CG too.

reservist go to gitmo, used to go to kuwait and we have global teams who work with all the navy fleets. RAID teams used to be in Afghanistan, also CG deploys to asia and south America. CG participated in every major conflict the US has been in

>i have been to 11 countries so far

>>34550782
This Is the ultimate cope post jesus Christ. Those are all shithole countries. And at best you rangle some smugglers in little as row boats meanwhile we're tracking submarines and Russian fighters. Calm down dude youre outclassed.
Not to mention one cruiser could probably destroy the entire CG.

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Hey there /meg/ I'm enlisting in the Navy and was told to get a contract before I go into MEPS (?)
Anyhow I've started looking at jobs to pick from once the subject comes up. Here's what I read that sounded interesting to me:

>Sonar technician
>Operations specialist
>Interior communications electrician
>Gunners mate
>Electrician's mate
>Damage controlmen
>Cryptologic technician
>Aviation boatman's mate
>Aerographer's mate
>Aviation structural mechanic (hydraulics)
>Aviation structural mechanic

Does anyone have any insight on these jobs/careers? I want to know as much about them going forward as I can

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>>34550712
>I was there for all of it so ask away.
Oh, don't let me limit you. Tell me everything.

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>>34550687
Was this the Iranian Coast Guard?

Go back to where you came from boi.

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>>34550822

>Those are all shithole countries.

never said they were the best ones to go to

>Not to mention one cruiser could probably destroy the entire CG.

our primary duty is a law enforcement agency, so its like being cops with access to 76mm and 57mm 25mm guns and CIWS. YOu guys do war gud, but CG has maximum komfy of the services

>>34550844

Thats a lot of diversity in choice, what do you do for fun IRL or see yourself doing in 20 years?

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>>34550867
So youre going to cheery pick a single example? Keep coping.

>>34550871
>never said they were the best ones to go to
So why even say them then?

>but CG has maximum komfy of the services
I thought the AF was comfier no?

To both you CG faggots I'm just busting your balls so don't get bent out of shape. With that being said when I was in SD we had a cutter pier side for a while and it was without a doubt the oldest and shittiest looking thing ive ever seen.

>>34550844
Good are
Sonar
OS
GM
CT
engineers rates are a whole other world if you want that you need to love being covered in grease.
I was an OS and I loved it. But your choices are all over the map dude. You have computer jobs, engineering jobs and aviation jobs. Gotta narrow it down dude.

>>34550850
Bro like 10 things happened I cant green text a book

>>34550844
That's a lot. All I can say is:
1. don't let them cajole you into working on a sub.
2. google is your friend.
3. Look into either AE or AT as well, since they can also serve as aircrew. I prefer cruisers but if you're considering aviation rates consider those as well.

>>34550893
tell me about the whore who fucked the CO.

>>34550936
>tell me about the whore who fucked the CO.
that's what I figured you ment, gimme a sec

>>34550889
>>34550893
>>34550936
The reason for the diversity is that a lot of them are things I haven't tried before and because I might just be plain and simple too stupid to get a lot of them (based on my ASVAB practice test) so I'm keeping my options open.
Personally I've never been fond of computers of that helps narrow it down.

>>34550997
>(based on my ASVAB practice test)
Nigger just say what you got

Well do you like working with your hands? If so maybe the engineering stuff is for you.

>>34550997
As you are right now, you're gonna get cajoled into doing some shit work like CS. Let us help you instead of the recruiter.

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>>34550936
>>34550986
So the back story is our XO left right before out deployment started and we got a new captain shortly before that as well.

Our replacement XO was supposed to show up right before we left but he had some health issue so he never showed the whole deployment.

So our CHENG also left and the replacement is the one who fucked the CO.
So basically lots of new moving pieces.

Anyway this was her first tour as cheng, yet for some reason the CO chose her to be stand in XO instead of one of the more experienced dept heads.

She was a 5foot blonde airhead who went to USC and had fake tits. Forget if she was still married but def had kids.

The CO was like 6'6 notre dame guy who I also think was married and had kids lel

He said fuck the CO room and spent the whole deployment in the Commanders cabin by the QDeck.

Basically he never left there and I mean ever. I only ever saw him during sea and anchor. She was like his personal slave and loved it, she would bring his meals to the cabin and all kinds of shit. She was always in civis doing this and when wed be walking around in the middle of the night wed see her coming and going from his room at like 2am also in skimpy pajamas.

Everyone with half a brain knew what was going on.

Wanna know the best part???

Theyre married now haha.

With all that being said she was a nice person but kind of an airhead. He seemed nice as well but obviously was aloof for who knows what reason.

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>>34551064
>She was like his personal slave and loved it, she would bring his meals to the cabin and all kinds of shit. She was always in civis doing this and when wed be walking around in the middle of the night wed see her coming and going from his room at like 2am also in skimpy pajamas.
Damn, I looked her up since I was curious, and saw her name and face...

>>34551140
Ya she kind of had a leather face.

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>>34551064

DAMN I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU NAVY GUYS, Y'ALL HAVE THE CRAZZIEST COMMANDS

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>>34551140
>>34551194
Haha ya and that report obviously down played it. He lived in that cabin the entire deployment like a hermit way longer then theyre saying. And again ahah that shit wasn't unduly it was straight sexual. She was a huge flirt too anyway. When I had my exit meeting with her it was in her stateroom and she was wearing short shorts and a white wife beater. She had Victoria secret lingerie cut out pictures like all over her room too. Shit was weird senpai.

The entire deployment senior leadership was absent. Chiefs and JOs ran that entire deployment it was so bizarre.

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>>34551184
>>34551194
>>34551216
>mfw i see her twitter

>>34551241
I can only imagine, I never looked at it

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>>34551273
https://twitter.com/destinysavage
She's probably fat as fuck now that she's stopped running for over a year and only bitches about Trump. Her follows are so stereotypical it's like /pol/ made her up. pic related is a meme she posted.

>>34551194
she looks fucking crazy

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>>34551273
>>34551216
Anyway, goodnight. Thanks for the story and the laugh. Gonna go to bed and not fuck up my sleep schedule too bad.

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>>34539597
>Tfw ain't shit

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>>34551374
>womanlet
>not crazy

>>34551379
night nig

>>34551336
Yep, USC airhead like I was saying

>>34551374
just stupid

>>34539640
How? How did you land it?

>>34551387
HAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK

>>34550076
Where'd you hear this? I'm looking at 35M as well, and I don't see why it would be bad for a civilian career. Play up the people skills from debriefing sources and language skills (language training is mandatory now for 35M AFAIK), maybe mention clearance, and that's a solid base.

>>34551476
Im also looking at that MOS, I wonder which one of us will get it first.

If I do ill end my post with the word penis so you guys know.

>go to college
>don't know what I want to study
>only thing I have an interest in is history, the military, and law enforcement in that ordsr
>don't want a fucking degree in history because MUH JOBS
>was only 18 no LEO
>too nervous to join the military
>fast forward 4 years
>ended up learning to weld
>hate it
>decide to join the military
>want combat MOS because that's what I want to do, even if they just jack off all day now
>Also want technical MOS so I can get a job after the military
Inb4 combat MOS and then use GI bill for college, I would be right back where I started

>>34551696
>be you
>post life story
>fail to ask question

>>34550076

35M is better for getting a job than 90% of MOSs, people just shit on it because it's one of the worst for prospects compared to other intel jobs.

>>34550687

I'd rather be in the CG than the Navy, it's alot smaller and thus always less prone to shitbags because everybody has to pull their weight.

>>34551032
>>34551008
58 was the score, I prefer working with my hands and I want a higher chance to deploy on a cruise it something similar sized

>>34550936
Why are submarines bad?

>>34552489

>frequency of drills means little sleep
>trapped on a boat for months on end
>sharing beds
> limited career field once you go there

>>34539597
Kek the glue sucker thinks it matters

>>34552121
can you elaborate on this pls? unclear what you are saying

>>34552506
you forgot:
>eternal fish market smell

>>34552539

do the air scrubbers scrub fish into the air?

>>34552532

It's a "worst of the best" situation. 35 series is one of the top job fields when it comes to post-service employment, but within that field 35M is one of the worst.

It's mostly because 35Ms are very reliant on deployment to do their jobs, and that isn't happening much lately.

>>34552640
What kind of jobs can you get with the 35 series, outside of government agencies (wouldn't want to live in DC) or jobs that require you to deploy?

>>34552560
I wouldn't be surprised.

>>34552458
How the fuck did you manage to score only a 58?

I scored a 67 and I'm a fucking retard

>>34552758

>people dont know about shop tools
>people dont know about electricity
>people dont math gud
>people cant read

>>34552758
Well it was just the practice test but I mostly blame the fact I haven't had to look at any math other than simple multiplication and division in nearly 5 years.

>>34552758
I think recruiters sometimes convince absolute tards to take the asvab so more serious candidates end up with a higher score. If 100 geniuses take the ASVAB, half will score below 50. If recruiters convince 300 retards to take the ASVAB alongside the 100 geniuses, those 100 geniuses get 57+.

>>34552918

That's not how it works, it is not a scaled test, It assesses your ability, not a comparison against peers. If 100 take the asvab and score below 50 they are below 50%, if 300 retards take it, they will still below 50%, and the 100 geniuses will still score above 50% on the test. Even if 100 geniuses take the test and no retards take the test, they will still score a 50% on the test. Its like your high school math test, unless your teacher grades on a scale, then its not

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>Its a "Air Force personnel are the least useful people in the room" episode again

Why does this keep happening? Every time an airman speaks up, its about something irrelevant and is always followed by a quick awkward silence followed by everyone else getting back to the subject.

What is wrong with them? Is your AIT fucked? Or is your basic fucked? Where does the fuckery begin?

>>34550936
>1. don't let them cajole you into working on a sub.
does this apply to nukes?
>>34553047
everyone wants to be important

>>34553047

What is wrong with them? Is your AIT fucked? Or is your basic fucked? Where does the fuckery begin?

Mabey they just want to feel relevant? most of what they do is logistics, since after WW2 they have not had a major role in air to air combat or large scale bombing campaigns. Its more of a meme service now, since the army and navy have their own aircraft that they use for most missions. Aside from air support like C-130s and A-10s, they basically just transport equipment and do cyber security.

>>34552700

Depends on your specialty. Obviously federal/contract work is the easiest to slide into. A lot of that is in the DC area, but not all of it.

Analytical skills, language skills, and tech skills are very transferable, particularly if you have hands-on experience.

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>>34552998
http://official-asvab.com/understand_coun.htm
>Standard Scores are scores that have a fixed mean and standard deviation in the population of examinees. A Standard Score indicates how many units of the standard deviation a particular score is above or below the mean. In the case of the ASVAB subtests, the mean is set to 50 and the standard deviation is set to 10. Thus, a Standard Score of 40 indicates that the examinee scored 1 standard deviation below the mean. A Standard Score of 70 indicates that the examinee scored 2 standard deviations above the mean.

>>34553448
>mean
What happens to the mean if the average person who takes it is a fucking retard? Everyone I know scored in the 90s and they are all fucking dumbasses.

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>>34553448
>fixed mean
>mean is set to 50

with a fixed mean, half of the population can score in the "90th percentile".

if it really was scaled, the mean would be the actual average. So if more/less people were retards, then the mean would be 37 or 85 for example.

>>34551677
Shooting for Airborne? Either way, good luck m8.

>>34553467
A lot of it seems to be knowledge and some common sense questions.

I didn't do very well on the math because I haven't used any of the formulas in over 5 years and forgot a lot of stuff. Reading seemed like common sense, along with some other sections.

Some body can do well if they know their shit, but they can lack in the common sense department and do stupid shit while in.

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>>34553516
Slow down and read again. This time without the cum in your eyes. In particular:
>Thus, a Standard Score of 40 indicates that the examinee scored 1 standard deviation below the mean. A Standard Score of 70 indicates that the examinee scored 2 standard deviations above the mean.

>>34552758
Wait, a 67 is considered bad?
I scored 65. Am I retarded?

>>34553673
Congrats. Most Americans vying for the military are more retarded than you.

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What can a /k/ommando wanting to becoome a paramedic do to get the best results? 68w combat medic? Or something else? Whats the best branch for this?

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>>34553658
>Slow down and read again. This time without the cum in your eyes. In particular:

why i scored a 60 on the asvab, thanks for explaining

>>34553679
If that's the case then the USA is fucked.

>>34552640
ok I think I get what you are saying about 35M, its not really going to translate well to white collar environment and is limited by how much actual fieldwork is going on. Follow up question though, just how removed from the wire is 35F? Like are they literally back at a base in bumfuck nowhere USA creating reports? I can't pin down how that tends to work.

>>34553658
http://official-asvab.com/docs/1997score_scale.pdf
>>34553690
savage but still incorrect. the fixed mean is based on 6,000 kids in 1997 with an over-sample of blacks and hispanics at least according to that link. that's who you are definitively smarter than.

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How comparable are England's Royal Marines to our own Marine Corps?

>>34551394
>How? How did you land it?

He's a janitor.

>>34554226
Kek

>>34552229
>it's alot smaller and thus always less prone to shitbags because everybody has to pull their weight
well that's true, but id say say raise standards for the other branches

>>34553685
You mean become a paramedic once youre out? Theyre all good desu cant really go wrong. Depends how much of a billy badass you wanna be I suppose.

Scored an 85 on my AFQT and qualify for every rate in the Navy except for Nuke. How good of a chance do I have of getting MC?

>>34539640
JSC by any chance?

>>34546177
happy to reply with absolutely not

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Anyone in Navy DEP successfully changed rates or attempted to? I was so busy researching everything else expect for choosing a rating that I ended up signing for MM (sadly it was the best of the 3 Tyrone gave to me) and was told bull poop by my classifier and recruiter that said to me "over-qualification" for ratings is a thing that were available at the time like QM and HM. I was just pushed to fill a quota.

I'll have to put in a DAR or some shit. Trying to salvage this whole thing before March or I'd have to get into the Air Force and wait for a damn waiver, at this point I'd even take MA over MM. I don't want to be a-gang.

>>34551394
NASA needs janitors too

>>34554359
I would contact a navy recruiter at

https://www.navy.com/chat.html

tell them " I'm DEP'd in ,b ut would like to change rates before I sign my enlistment contract for boot camp" see what they say

>>34553685
68W is a solid choice. That or Navy Corpsman.

>>34554295
>MC
Nigger that's a faggy rate that barerly exists. Please choose something less embarrassing.

>>34554417
Please get off your ego trip and let me pick what I want assbucket

>>34553887
You can still get good jobs with 35M, especially if you network and get good grades, though you should be doing that anyway no matter what 35 series you do, especially the networking. It's just a bit harder than other 35 series jobs.

As for 35Fs, you could be attached to a BCT that deploys, or to some entirely rear echelon unit. Ms are always attached to deployable units, Fs aren't always. Either one has a chance to support Rangers (go through RASP like everyone else) or SF (B-Teams, not sure how one gets attached to one though) if you're so inclined.

>>34554432
Faggot I'm trying to help you. Why the fuck would you want that job? Explain it to me.

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>>34554454
Maybe he's a fag and wants a future in human resources.

>>34554454
Because I excelled in the radio and tv programs in high school, as well as writing columns in my school's paper. I just want a job where I can do what I feel like I can do best and take advantage of college programs while doing said job.

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>>34554471
I'm sure you can get it if you try hard enough, but you're a massive fag.

>>34554471
wew lad I agree with >>34554462
But if that's what your heart is set on I guess go for it. But like I said its a super small rate. Its not like its tough to get for any other reason than its a super small rate.

>>34554489
>>34554495
Time to get me ass railed in hopes of getting this rate. If I can't pick MC then I'm thinking Quartermaster.

>>34554508
Go Qm, its way more respectable dude. ITs actually a cool job imo, OS is leagues ahead of it but QM aint bad.

>>34554521
I just like the sound of MC, just by being a photographer. It'd be interesting to take photos of cool shit out there. I'm really interested in travelling to different places and exploring what's out there.

>>34554534
>I'm really interested in travelling to different places and exploring what's out there
well dude that's 99% of jobs in the navy, as long as youre on a ship youre golden. The problem with MC is I'm pretty sure theyre only stationed on big ships so carriers and the like so thatll suck and you have to dick rick all the higher up officers and hang around ceromonies constantly. Its basically a propaganda job.

>>34554534
>I enjoy spending all day on a flight deck taking pictures of aviators before they take off in 120 degree heat.
Please reconsider.

>>34554534
If you want to operate a camera you don't need the military for that.

Being cam boy for the porno industry can't be that hard to get into.

>>34554445
appreciate it anon, thx a ton

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anyone in here from RI?
Marine Recruiter here
ask away

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>>34554225

>>34554735
How many people believe your bullshit and sign up without doing their own research?

>>34554735

do you ever use 4chan to get referrals to your station?

>>34551677
If it seems worthwhile to get it in the contract but Ill definitely try to enlist as a 35m If I pass the dlab next week. Good luck to you too

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>>34554785
whatever do you mean anon?
>>34554792
what do you think I'm trying to do right now?

>mfw both posts

>>34554843
>>34553573

>>34554785
>>34554872
nah but seriously, I don't let anyone sign anything unless they take everything into account
aka
I'm still relatively new to being a recruiter so I still have a heart and try not to fret about "muh Numbahs" even if I do have a sgt maj up my ass about it

>>34550893
>>34550889
Well with further reading I narrowed it down to
IC*
GM
EM
DC*
AG
AM*

Understand I've done nothing but Warehouse work since high school so all of these are things I could see myself doing a ways out from now. * Are ones I'm most interested in and am doing research on requirements to obtain

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>>34554390
I was told over qualification is a thing. But the agent took a very long time to answer, raises my eyebrows with that response time she typed several times but stopped took about 7 minutes to give me that answer.

Is this just a collaborated ruse? I was also told I can't change my rating 99% percent of the time.

>>34554962
IC is a useless gay rate
DC is the worst engineering rate, youre going to be unclogging shit filled toilets all day
AM I'm assuming is crap cause youll be stuck on either an airfield in the desert or a carrier
Go GM
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/enlisted/community/surface_cs_ops/Pages/GM.aspx

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Anyone with experience on enlisting in the Dutch military?

I'm thinking about becoming an officer

>>34555054
Does GM even transfer to civie life?

>>34555157
They can apply for something like Cabela's.

>>34555157
it deosnt really except for contracting for the mil. But it doesn't have to transfer if you don't want.

>>34555157

If you go with the civilian certificate otion for being a GM you can get some sweet civie quals, I think gm is limited to electronics repairer and ordnance handler/ ordnance artificer. basically you log hours it takes you to dodifferent tasks. After a certain number of tasks (fixed guns 500hrs, repaired missiles 200hrs inventoried ordnance 300hrs) you can apply to get the civie certificate which lets you work for museums and as contractor or BAE/lockheed

>>34555253
>>34555210
>>34555182
Neat, my recruiter is a GM. I'll make sure to ask him about it while I do some further reading on it

I'm considering becoming a 68W. What am I in for?

>>34555400
GM is a rate though that you can get a general idea about but that's it cause within GM there are specific NECs you can get witch completely change what youll be doing.

>>34555416
>What am I in for?

Being a medic? What do you expect?

>>34555442
It's never that simple.

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Any thoughts on 31b?

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>>34548328
I'm just making sure I'm not autistic as fuck and that this indeed sounds like it is basically giving a decent plan to leave out some paperwork and a good backstory for if it ever becomes relevant again.

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>>34555426
That's what I've read, I'm mostly interested in the small arms and turrets

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Done about a million hours of research on Oversees bases.

But I'm going to have to put some stateside bases on my dreamsheet.

What are the best stateside AF bases?

So I'm headed to Navy boot on wednesday and as of now I can only do like 25 pushups and 40ish sit ups and like a 12min 1.5mile

Will I make it?

>>34555400

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=91612

you can read about the program there, but the specifics require login on the site because you log in to your account page to register for each program

>>34554735
>>34554872
Ya know if "Oppositional Defiant Disorder" is a forever DQ?
It's in my record but I strongly feel it's a misdiagnosis, though, I hear MEPS doesn't believe in misdiagnosis.

>>34555619
small boat life it is, unless you can weasel your way into an NSWC right off the bat and get specwar and/or depot qualified. Other wise, I hope you like torpedoes and missiles and stuff

>>34555675
Travis Air Force Base
Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling
Dyess Air Force Base

>>34555683

You can get rediagnosised to invalidate previous misdiagnosis. also improper testing method throws diagnosises out the window I think

>>34555619
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/enlisted/community/surface_cs_ops/Documents/GM%20career%20path.pdf

here is what the typical career of a GM will be (textbook wise)

>>34555725
What specific medical professional and request type would I go to to get this done?
Same guy worrying about prior counseling and shit. My mental med history is basically just fucked up looking because I never told professional medical people I was just in a lot of bad living situations as a kid.

From the ages of 10-14 I was diagnosed with bipolar, which they rediagnosed as depression, then rediagnosed as Oppositional Defiance Disorder like the other anon. They only time I actually talked with the psychiatrist myself was the last time, the first two times my stepmother answered all questions before I could. even then ODD is just being a fucking teenager. These all happened with 3 different psychiatrists too.

Do I need to have records of this at MEPS even though it was as a child/teenager?

>>34555683
see
>>34555725
having a second medical opinion *wink* can get you in. but that's completely up to you. are you REALLY that bad with authority?
who knows, maybe the military will unfuck that shit
looking back before I joined I was wicked quiet and socially inept (hell maybe borderline autist) but from constantly being surrounded by others and needing to actually communicate and socialize I'm a god damned social butterfly now.
I can walk into any room and walk out with a friend/acquaintance
That sgt maj I said that is up my ass about numbers? he loves it when I walk into the main office in springfield. he likes me as a person and marine, but hates the numbers I pull (I go for quality not quantity)

TL;DR
Go see another doc if you aren't that bad and go forth and stack bodies

Any way to lose four pounds before I head to MEPS on Thursday?

>>34555873
Intermittent Fasting, go OMAD, eat around 600-800 calories a day, do 2 hours of cardio a day doesn't need to be intense.

Don't eat the morning of MEPS, empty your bladder and go shit before you take the bus to MEPS.

>>34555786

>only time I actually talked with the psychiatrist myself was the last time, the first two times my stepmother answered all questions before I could

>re-diagnosed 3 times

anon it sounds like you had some shitty doctors

>they could not establish a clear diagnosis
>you were never given a thorough test

it sounds like very good reason that these were misdiagnosed.

would talk to a docor and tell them you want a second opinion like>>34555806
suggested. Explain that you wanted to get a second opinion on previous diagnosis because you did not talk to/were not seen by the doctor, you mom did it for you instead and they could not distinctively diagnose you with one thing.


some records required only go back to last 6 years (pay attention to the words"EVER" in the questions)

>>34555873

ha how much we talking? whatever you do, don't try treadmillin while wearing a plastic bag for 4 hours

>>34555923
I'm 196 and need to be at 192.

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>>34555080

>>34555963

that's like a whole 2 shits worth

>>34555610
>it is basically giving a decent plan to leave out some paperwork
What paperwork? Have YOU ever seen this so-called paperwork? No? Then RELAX. It probably doesn't exist.

>>34554714
No problem. You taken the DLAB or a practice version yet? I still need to try a practice version desu, the language aspect of 35M spooks me more than anything, but it's also one of the things that draws me to it ironically.

I signed up for the marines and i'm in the DEP, but the MOS I want isn't currently available and there's no guarantee it'll be available by the time i'm set to ship out.

Is there any way I can actually delay my ship date if by the time I ship the MOS I want still isn't available?

>>34555873
Go to a sauna the night before (if your hotel has one).

Sit in there for about an hour and a half and you'll lose a lot of water weight.

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How do other branches view Marines?

>>34556959
Like the arrogant retards they are. Wouldn't be so bad if MUHreens would just admit they are discount army

>>34556997
I was under the impression that, pound for pound, your average infantry Marine outweighed your average infantry Soldier with regards to discipline and proficiency.

Of course, the Army also has a fucking assload of units so it's no surprise that they're seen as Army-lite.

>>34557012

"Marines: 110% of the effort for 90% of the results."

>>34557055
Why do so many people flock to them? Is it because of their heritage of being "first to fight"?

>>34557076

Because marines put in 110% of the effort.

>>34557076
It's because of their brilliant PR campaign and image.

Do you want to just be a Soldier? Do you want the easy life as an Airman?
No, you want to be the best, to be a Marine.

It speaks to young men looking to prove themselves.

>>34557012
Marines tend to be more physically fit, yes. However the improved disclipline and proficiency goes out the window after boot camp, and they show what they are really like. A bunch of meatheads who have some nice history, and just play up that history constantly. Only the USMC has a motard epidemic, none of the other branches do.

Muscles
Are
Require
Intelligence
Not
Essential

>>34557131
Is that to say that it's impossible to escape the motard epidemic? Are there any smart Marines?