Military Enlistment General /meg/ - Lying at MEPS edition

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If you aint infantry, you aint shit.

>>32228882
Dude how the hell do you do this? It's the first fucking post. Who is paying you to do this?

>>32228882
This

Fuck the infantry , RECON !

>>32228932
you mean POGs that wish they were infantry but arent good enough

>>32228910
im paid in POG tears

Would getting a 68D contract be hard? I'm trying to become a surgeon one day and think this would be a good first step.

Does anyone know anything about the NG/ROTC simultaneous participation program?

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I'm going for a rate that will require a TS.

I'm planning to lie about ADHD and pot at MEPS.

Anyway, since I'm going to have to lie about pot and ADHD at MEPS, will lying about that on the SF86 bone me as well? The SF 86 asks about visiting mental health professionals in the last 7 years and I don't want to have to wait another year to go to MEPS (and thus the SF 86) if I can avoid it.

Will they bust me if I am honest on the SF86 but not at MEPS?

What are the chances of a reserve unit that operates F-22s accepting an a pilot application from someone without experience?

If I do PLC and commission as 2nd Lt out of college, does that disqualify me from going into MAROC?
Marines really attracts me because of the PLC program and not having to OCS after college, it's too late for me to do ROTC for Navy or Army (I'm a junior in college), so I feel now my only option left is Marines, which is not bad.
I heard SOCCOM uses MARSOC as fodder before they send their SEALs in, is this true?

Is it a good idea to have 2-3 days rest with no exercise before a fitness test so youre 100% ?

>>32229114
1-2 is plenty.

>>32228991
Yes they'll bust you you stupid faggot. Lie across the board. They'll never know.

>>32229064
Honestly don't know but if you wanna be a seal just drop out and enlist as one. You could always commission later if that's what you really wanted.

>>32229127
>Lie across the board. They'll never know
So do they not ask about mental health or do they not consider adhd to be a mental health thing?

>>32229221
I'm referring to OPM interviewing the references, etc.

If I apply to Marine OCS can I pick the MOS I want? Or is it an open contract? Getting mixed reviews

On a scale of 1-10 what are my odds of becoming a Recon Officer through OCS?

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I'm graduating from college this Summer; is it possible to commission as an officer and also obtain a Ranger contract? I don't know a while lit about how this all works, sorry if this comes off wrong or offends any of you.

>>32229231
if you graduate top of your class youre guaranteed

if you graduate anywhere else you'll be put where they need you most.

they then split your class down the middle average and put an fair/even mix of retards in every available MOS

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>Need FIVE (5) letters of recommendation for review in order to apply Marine OCS

I don't have any professional references, all of my previous jobs are retail and I hated all of my co-workers.

I also never stay after class and make friends with any professors either. (3rd yr student)

Should I just fabricate my 5 letters?

I'll take any advice.

Do the meps personnel probe a lot when it comes to scars? I have heavily faded surgical scars. Actually from a scooter accident/chain link fence jumping/sword fight.

>tfw have an appointment with a recruiter later today and still don't know what MOS I want

>>32228882
fpbp

>>32229377 no they just asked me and I said no.

How hard would it be to score a operating room specialist mos?

>>32228957
Medical MOS's are almost always looking for new applicants

>>32228882
Nothing but truth. 11b or 0311.

>>32229353
Yes. They never look into it anyway.

>>32229353
don't completely fabricate them in case they actually check it, but don't be picky at all when putting down recommendations.

>>32229413
What branch
What did you think you did good/the best part mime was science on the asvab
I'm going into the Marines and combat engineer

>>32229064
Bump. Some clarity.

Questions:
>If I do PLC and commission as 2nd Lt out of college, does that disqualify me from going into MARSOC?
>I heard SOCCOM uses MARSOC as fodder before they send their SEALs in, is this true?
>Can anyone comment on Marine Officer lifestyle compared to other branches? As I continue into my college career it is apparent that I want to enter into military service. I wish to get an MOS that has something to do with Information Technology, but I am also looking to also do 20 years then retire. As stated in my original post, I cannot do NROTC or ROTC as I am now a college junior and I do not want to do OCS after college, I'd rather do PLC and get it done during my college years.

>>32229353
Same bro.
I worked at a Chipotle last last Summer and did pretty well, but now I have an internship but it's not going so well.
I have not so many professors as well.
All my military references are now dead as I made connections with them at the VA Medical Center.
I'm thinking about going to the VA and just asking to talk to some Marines in the nursing home, meet up with them for a few weeks, then ask them to write a letter for me.
Also, I have some parents friends that are nurses at the VA, would they be a good reference?
What do yall think of that?

>>32229353
I used 2 professors who I did good on in their class, one I never really built much of a rapport so he told me to write whatever recommendation and he'll sign it
I used my boss from a job I had 2 years.
I used the pastor of a church I went to when I was younger
>>32229064
PLC is OCS split up into 2 6-week sessions. I don't know if Juniors would be able to attend PLC since it is over 2 years. Navy/Army/AF all have OCS too. It's not that big a deal to have to go to OCS

>>32230323
I am going to have 5 years in college, so I can do PLC.

>tfw my board rejected me.
Aw well. I knew that wouldbprobably happen. Maybe I'll look into being a cop? I'm sure they need tons of new people.

>>32230332
Then fucking do it who cares. Try to get infantry then once you're in you can apply to MARSOC/Force recon and see if you make it in or not

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My right buttcheek started acting up last week after a routine run. It's probably the TFL, or bursitis or some shit. I've rested, applied ice, stretched, NSAIDs, and it's still fucked. Strong, dull pain all over the hip and thigh on the right side that gets worse the more I move around. I ship next month

wat do

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>>32228882

lol sure

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Actual butterbar here

AMA

>>32230365

Keep stretching. See ur doctor if ur worried

>>32230365

Sucks it up you pussy. You're about to be entering an organization with the fundamental goal of ending lives. If your butt cheek hurting makes you want to give up, death ain't the right industry for you my dude.

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>>32228954

19D higher OSUT attrition rate and requires higher gt score.

Git fucked windowlicker.

>>32230523

>going armored recon during peacetime

Lol it's like you dont want a combat deployment

A National Guard recruiter just told me I can't continue to be in the Guard and ROTC once I commit to whatever service I choose. Should I even bother joing the Guard in the first place if I just have to leave it anyway? I figured it might be better to have some military training before getting a commission and it would keep me more focused, but it seems pointless now

>>32230575

iirc, you can take semesters/summers off of class to do skill schools once you're rotc. My buddy did that at VMI, but it might just be because he was at an academy

>>32230413
How'd you commission?

>>32230575
ROTC plebs are the worst. Federal OCS or bust

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>>32230614

Federal OCS at Benning.

Pic unrelated

>>32230551

>implying 19D isnt expanding
>implying 1st cav isnt deploying
>implying 11 boo boos dont wash rocks
>implying 19D isnt in demand compared to cawadoody fags all rushing 11B thinking its going to be anything other than sitting in a line firing at things

Also enjoy sucking cock at everything because ur drill sgts only spend 5 seconds on teaching anything

How is 91f? I'm torn between that and 35t (the clearance bs is bugging me though). I basically got the highest possible score on the ASVAB so I can do anything, but I don't want to meme myself into a shitty MOS.

>>32230622
How hard was OCS? How many combat arms options were there for OCS?

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>>32230638

OCS isn't necessarily "hard." Similarly to BCT, you just need to keep plugging through and check the boxes.

APFT and your leadership grades in the field (STX and Platoon FLX) weigh the most on what "rank" you get in the class OML, which determines what you'll be able to branch as.

Combat Arms were the most plentiful for branch choices. I ended up with what I wanted (Signal), but there were many who did things like MI branch detail Infantry and so on. For Branch Detail, you do the first 4-ish years as an officer in the "detail" branch (ex. Infantry) and then once you hit O-4, you go to the Captains Career Course as your "control" branch, and subsequently rebranch.

If you want Combat Arms, Federal OCS is the way to go. Even if you finish last in the class you'll more than likely get Infantry or Field Artillery.

>>32230615
Isn't OCS/OTS a relatively rare route for pilots?

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>>32230667
*O-3, typo.

So, once you get your railroad tracks you end up in the Branch you "really wanted" after doing 4 years as IN or FA.

Also, even if you're prior service IN, you have to go to IBOLC to wear your blue Aiguillette again. Otherwise, you can't wear it with your ASUs.

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>>32230683

Most pilots in the Army tend to be Warrant Officers. If you put in for an Aviation packet for OCS you might get approved and get that branch. But most of the pilots I've met so far have been CW2's and above.

Funniest bit from OCS? We had a female OC have an ND with a 240B in the TOC. She didn't get dismissed, but was chewed out hard.

>>32230348
The question is: does going into OCS, make it harder for me to go into MARSOC? I'd imagine it'd be easier for an E-X to get in rather than an O-X since I'd assume they want their officers to have been an E-X in MARSOC?

>>32230413
Can you answer my autism?

>>32230252
>>32230765

>>32230791
If you want IT related shit, the best thing you can do is go Guard and ask for a Cyber Officer slot before you sign your contract.

It's the "newest" branch of the Army and is the most relevant to your field. Cyber used to be part of Signal, but split off a few years ago.

You can get it through the Federal OCS program (for active army) if you put in a packet while you're at OCS. You need a background in IT beforehand though, so it's really only relevant if you're prior service or have a BS degree in CS. Cyber also has bitchin branch insignia, crossed lightning bolts and swords. I have Semaphore flags baka desu senpai.

>>32230634
Anyone?

Stupid question. I can take the ASVAB before I sign any papers right?

>>32230877
Just the practice one

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>>32230866
Highest possible score on the ASVAB/AQFT isn't much to brag about anon. I was hungover, showed up at the latest possible minute, and finished in 45 minutes. I got a 95 with a 131 GT. Shits easy.

>>32230683
Not at all Navy AF Marines all need pilots right now and are accepting a lot from OCS

>>32230860
My Marines recruiter said if I wanted the perfect mix of post military career experience and combat, Marines would be the way to go. Even non combat MOS Marines got combat ribbons because of being Marines.

I'm a little bit conflicted. I DO want to see combat, but I also want to do things technology related. I'm leaning towards Marines because of PLC, but I'm not 100% stuck on it.
Any advice?

If I get denied a TS clearance for some stupid reason, what are the chances I can pick hospital corpsman? Or will I get stuck chipping paint

>>32230877
You /have/ to take the ASVAB before signing any contract or picking an MOS/rate/job

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>>32230877
You can. Before I signed my contract I took the ASVAB and then had to go to a board and a bunch of other shit before I actually signed my contract.

I contracted JAN 18 2016, went to FT Jackson for BCT in March, Federal OCS in May, and commissioned in August.

Protip: don't let the DS's know you're an O9S.

>>32230900
You're not going to see combat.

Your recruiter is trying to sell you on the Marines. Go Army or Go Home.

>>32230765
The guy from generation kill LT Fick wasn't prior and got in to Force Recon, no reason why they would deny people from applying to MARSOC without enlisted experience

>>32230667
How many people washed out of OCS? Do they just get put in an enlisted MOS if they wash out? Would a 25A officer be able to get out after 4 years and do a related job or not since they aren't necessarily doing the hands on work?

I've been diagnosed with General Anxiety Disorder before. Has anyone in here that has served before or currently have anxiety? Will they disqualify me if I tell them at MEPS? I'm not worried about being able to talk to people.. but being around people 24/7 is what drains my energy. Planning on joining the Navy. When you're on a ship how much free time do you really get? Is it just 8-10 hour workdays then you really just get the rest of the day off? Seems odd.

>>32230934
So I have to choose:

Seeing some sort of combat
vs
Military Related Job to my Field
---
What is a technology related job in Marines that sees combat? Communications?
Furthermore, what is Officer Life like? Talk to me as if I was a retarded child, because other than both my great grandparents serving in the military, I have no idea what officer life would be like vs E-X people. That includes what "work" would be like (in my minds: doorkicking vs telling people to kick doors down?).
I want to go through the "do 20 years, then retire comfortably" route.

>>32230922
How was Relaxin' Jackson?

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>>32230957
Washing out of OCS isn't like it used to be. The Army spends a lot more time validating whether or not people can pass OCS before sending them off.

Essentially it works like this, when you arrive from BCT to OCS at Benning, you spend a little time at HHC (Headquarters and Headquarters Company) of 3-11 IN, 199 IN BDE. At HHC (for a few days to a week) you inprocess and then take the APFT. If you score well on the APFT/are Guard or Reserve, you "class up" and start OCS with your training Company. If you don't score high enough, you wait until the next class "classes up" in 3 weeks. During this time you will actually train and practice for the events at OCS. This actually gives you an advantage, as the HHC guys had 2 practice runs at the Red Diamond Land Nav course, whereas those of us who immediately classed up (myself included) didn't get any practice other than what we previously knew from BCT or prior service.

Going through OCS, there are many tests and events where you either pass/fail, and failure gives you the option of 1 retest. If you fail the retest, you are (generally) restarted at that point with the next OCS class. So, let's say you failed Land Nav. You would then go back to HHC and wait until the next OCS class is at that same point in the training schedule. You will be transferred and integrated into that company and given the opportunity to try it again. If you fail, you will be recommended for dismissal and will go either back to your prior service MOS, OR your enlisted MOS that you chose should you fail OCS, which means for non prior service members, you go to AIT.

The times when we had the most failures in my OCS class were during the History Exam, Land Nav, and the 9 and 12 Mile ruck marches. Most were able to "pass" on the 2nd attempt, but we lost maybe 8 out of 121 that had to restart.

The class prior to mine lost two OC's a week before graduation/commissioning due to Alcohol. They were DQ'd from the course and one was UCMJ'd.

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>>32231029

I still don't know where that moniker comes from. I was Charlie 1-61. My DS's were tough but fair, and one of them sat down with me and another O9S during FTX 3 and just shared his stories with us. We were doing the LP/OP and I gotta say, that was an awesome experience.

>>32231071
fuck I should've chosen army over navy
Gives me the chance for some neat jobs or even combat arms. Navy does the same thing, they roll you back until the next class. Though army uniforms do look like shit. I already got my OCS date so I don't think I can reject it

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How hard is it to get back in with a R3? If I wanted to try would a small bfe town be better than a larger city?

>>32230896
I know it's not special, it just means I have options.

>>32231262
Also that doesn't answer my question about going 91f.

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What army mos would make me marketable to the CIA, FBI, DEA, or other government agencies as an agent?

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>>32231432
https://www.cia.gov/careers/opportunities/clandestine/paramilitary-operations-officer-specialized-skills-officer.html
"Minimum requirements for Paramilitary Operations Officers include a bachelor's degree, military special operations or combat arms experience (ground, air or maritime), as well as combat leadership experience. Previous foreign travel and foreign language proficiency is highly valued"

Right there on the website.

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>>32231432
also this:

"A background in aviation, maritime, military psychological warfare and/or information operations, as well as communications, business and counterintelligence are preferred"

>>32231607
Would 35P be considered?

>>32231432
yo ass aint gon do shit lil bwoi

If every dumb bitch 12-19 year old on /k/ who asked how he becomes a super sekret squirrel succeeded, the US would've won the war on terror years ago.

>>32231628
I know I won't be a fucking secret agent but I'd like to at least try.

I graduated a year ago with my bs in mechanical engineering and computer science with a good gpa, but i am about to fail out of grad school after my first semester. Ive always wanted to join the military so i might do that to avoid the wageslave life a while longer.

1: What branch and occupation can I choose where my degree would actually be useful?
2: What are my chances of going in as an officer?
3: For anyone who joined already having a bs, is it worth it?

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>>32231624
For a job at CIA, sure. For paramilitary officer? Maybe not.

>>32231686
If you're really interested in Federal work, my advice is to skip the military and get your fuckin degree and apply. If that doesn't work right off the back, take your degree to a major metropolitan agency and work that for a few years, be an exemplary officer, maybe try for that city's SWAT unit. Go home every night, bang out a wife or girlfriend, etc. Live your life and work towards your goal in the civilian world, which is way more comfortable and relatable to the FBI.

If you're interested in military more do that, but don't base your MOS on a pipe dream. Choose something that you'll actually enjoy and not hate your life for 4 years doing.

>tfw just found out Marines cannot wear SFB
feels bad man

>>32231280
You like playing with computers, or playing with things that go boom? Really that simple.

Hell, as a 35T, you'll barely even work with computers. Mainly just radios. I'd go 91F because tinkering with guns and artillery sounds more enjoyable to me. I'm on /k/ for a reason.

Doesn't matter, though. I went MP.

>>32231790
I like both, but I like kaboom more. 91f it is.

>>32230624
How do I know you're a boot?

Because you just referred to drill sergeants for training. Basic is basic training bruh.

Does anybody know about the Quality enlistment program for the Marines because I've tried to look into it but I haven't found much

>>32229928
Is the 90 on ST hard to achieve? I got a 75 on the practice test at the recruiting office without studying at all.

Correct Me If I Am Wrong But:
Army:Navy:Marines
Rangers:n/a:ForceRecon
Delta Force:Seals:Marsoc
?

>>32231974
Not him, but 19D and 11B both have Drill Sergeants for AIT as part of OSUT.

But I'm guessing you're a Marine, so I'll let it slide.

>>32232138
I took mine half baked and never studied, got a 130something I believe. But I was still in high school at the time. Practice, practice, practice. See what you got hung up on, and hope that you take the computer test at MEPS.

>>32232202
Kinda, sorta, not really. Lotta different SOF for the separate branches, all with different jobs.

Guys im in DEP and I forgot to put on the sf86 that I took anxiety meds 5 years ago. I already went to MEPS and got medically cleared. Im only worried about it because I picked a rate that requires a TS clearance, and I know they'll look into it. Should I tell my recruiter? And if I do tell her will I have to go back to MEPs? Or, should I just wait it out and come clean to the investigator.

>>32232202
SEALs are more like halfway between Rangers and Delta, With DEVGRU being at roughly Delta level. MARSOC would be right next to SEALs, and force recon would be right below Rangers. Not like it matters much though.

Red pill me on Air Force security forces

>>32232353
NO DON'T DO IT

>>32232245
>Kinda, sorta, not really. Lotta different SOF for the separate branches, all with different jobs.
Anyone care to elaborate?
I'm wondering how different these guys lifestyles are in terms of work and private life.
Correct me if I am wrong, but won't special forcea prefer having an officer who started with them rather than an officer from OCS straight from college?

>>32232333
>Not like it matters much though.
Explain please?
I heard SEALs for instance have more autonomy and it's more of an old boys club.
I heard DEVGRU is SEALs bitches and so on.

>>32232449
It doesn't matter much because in recent years, they all pretty much do the same stuff. Except Force Recon, but that's because they're not a part of SOCOM. It ain't like Black Hawk Down anymore, the Rangers have closed the gap between them and Delta quite a bit since the 90's.

>>32232424
In order to be even be considered for most SF applications as an officer, you need to be a 1LT promotable, as there aren't officers in SF units below O-3.

>>32232255
You forgot and that's that

>>32232255
With those double dubs you won't get caught if you just keep your mouth shut. If anyone asks you about it tell them you forgot because that is the truth.

If you just got them once and it wasn't anything you were on for years none of your friends and family will remember it either.

>>32228882
This. FUCK pogs

>>32232681
Who's gonna fix all of your shit when it breaks then?

>>32232353
Do you like standing at checkpoints all day in the middle of nowhere? Do you enjoy pretending not to sleep on the job? Do you enjoy being an alcoholic? Do you hate your life? Do you want to never use your weapon ever?

If so, security forces is perfect for you.

I think it could be fun if you were to become a k9 handler but you have to be in for at least 18 months before you can even try to apply to be a doggo wrangler. So it depends what you want to get out of it really. If you want to literally sit on your ass for 4 years just to get your GI bill then it could be a good idea. If you want to actually do something then fuck no.

Lying at meps about mental health history as a 10-12 year old good or bad idea.

I'm going for a 68w or corpsman boyyysss.

Or just infantry.

>>32232726
Those don't require any security clearance so they won't check anything you say. Lie away.

>>32232820
Can't you be required to get a clearance if you get assigned to a classified operation, even if your MOS wouldn't normally require it?

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Can someone redpill me on 0311?
>what happens if I get hurt in boot? Like twist my ankle bad or something to the point where I can't walk for a few days?
>what do they look for in an applicant?
>how far should I be able to run without stopping before going to boot?
>what level of security clearance do I need for it, and will the fact I used to blaze it, and still have a bunch of stoner friends hurt me? I haven't smoked in a few years. I'm 22 now.
>how hard is the 500m qual?
>would the fact I have major trust issues hurt me?
>is it true the DI's go easier on the older guys?
Not that I care, just wondering.

Pretty much want to enlist because I have nothing better to do.

>>32232820
Why would they put a normal corpsman or a normal 68w on a classified deployment when they have special forces trained combat medics

>>32232655
>tell them you forgot because it's the truth
Until they go through his internet / phone history and see the fact that he posted about it, which means when he did remember he said nothing.

>>32233128
Because not all classified assignments are SF material?

>>32233220
Dude, there's no super agency combing through every single post on the internet. They'll have an investigator who talks to a lot of people, childhood friends, doctors, teachers, relatives. Extremely extensive stuff. They'll uncover anything significant.

So worst case scenario they will find the doctor who says that yeah i prescribed some meds to this dude. If that happens then just do a mea culpa, they'll understand if you forgot about some meds you got when you were in middle school.

>>32233226
Yeah and the chances of this during fucking peacetime?

Can someone actually enlisted help us with this because he's bullshitting but I also don't have time to have a felony on my record.

>>32233265
Not the guy you were responding to, but I'm>>32233107

>they talk to firends and family
Does this mean I'm fucked? Seeing as how from age 15-now I hung out with a bunch of "degenerates", and most of my family doesn't like me?

>>32233368
No man. They only hire an investigator if you want Top Secret clearance. If you want to be a rifleman they won't check anything you say. You're good.

>>32230413
Tell me about your commissioning.
130 gt here. Looking into warrant or green to gold. Talk to me, sir.

>>32230634
My roommates are 35t and 35j. They like it.

How to breathe while swimming? How to turn around in the pool while doing laps?

>>32232681
You're an actual retard

>>32233533
That's a funny way of spelling "crunchy".

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>>32228872
I was all set up to apply to OCS this summer but failed a class my in my final semester and won't graduate until I repeat it.

This fucked up my GPA and failing pretty much DQs me. All my dreams are gone.

Hold me anons.

>>32233107
1. You get dropped a week to a platoon behind you
2. Desire to be a Marine
3. I think it's 13:30 in a mile and a half, info is easy to fine. Also must do 40 crunches in 2 minutes and minimum of 3 pull ups (Otherwise you get put in Fat Bitch platoon and PTed till you meet minimum, doesn't count as your 13 weeks)
4. None. Don't tell your recruiter, don't use them as a reference.
5. It's 500 yards. They teach you to shoot, pay attention
6. Pussy
7. Nope. If you're less dumb could land leadership role tho. Which they sometimes go harder on.

t. was 0311

What if I was/am on social security SSI?

Is there a resource that explains the lifestyles of various MOSs? What day to day is like on the job, responsibilities, etc?

>>32233619
Thanks for the help. The run and crunches I know I can do, still gotta work on the pull-ups though. I can do them overhand, but not under.

>don't use them as a reference
Don't the talk to your parents and whatnot no matter what? And don't they ask them for other references?

>>32232333
>>32232245
>>32232202
Where does Green Berets fit into this?

>>32233265
I just told my recruiter that I forgot, and they'll update it. Does taking anxiety meds for a month when I was 13 affect me getting a TS clearance?

>>32233974
You're about to find out.

>>32233724
dunno about most other MOS's but I RARELY had a long period of time where things were routine(like 2-3 weeks max).
Always at the motorpool, at the range, prepping to jump, out in the field, prepping to deploy, deploying, going off to some school, etc.
Best job I ever had despite the shit pay.

>>32234056
Your MOS?
I have been reading, and it looks like Officers do not actually get to do anything other than paperwork. They tell people to do stuff for them and then file paperwork for them.
Seems depressing.

Prior Service guy needing some help:

So I ETS'd a little over a year ago and started undergrad as an Aerospace Engineering/Planetary Science student.

I also have been working for NASA on a few various projects since Feb.

I was with this chick from a bit before I went to basic and all the way through my contract (including a deployment to RC-East) and she cheated on me and its really fucked with my head.

Ive started lifting a shit load and Ive gotten back into some of the best shape of my life (like deployment big)

The idea of going to SFAS for the National Guard SF company in SoCal is starting to grow on me.

I intend on pursuing a PhD though and I guess I would go through the q course before grad school.

What are your guys's thoughts on shit like this?

>tl;dr former 11B thinking of going Nasty Gal SF.

>>32228872
Why is being a nuclear engineer in the Navy considered a bad thing? My dad came from a poor family, so he joined the Navy. Being a nuke allowed him to go to college and now he's a successful engineer.

>>32230551
ya but 19D get assigned to light INF units too. I dunno, I've been out a while so things may have changed..

>>32233847
In the Marines it doesn't matter if it's a chin up or pull up. As long as you dead arm hang first and get chin above the bar.

>Don't the talk to your parents and whatnot no matter what? And don't they ask them for other references?

Maybe for Top Secret. They gave me Secret without asking any of my references a single question. But I had absolutely 0 criminal history and 0 debt, that's a factor. Either way you don't need it for 0311. You'll only be told what you need to know and expected to keep OpSec. I only know I had a secret because I was selected to perform a secondary job that required it.

>>32231017
Fuck no that isn't what it's like. Who told you that? I was an OS. I stood 12 hrs of watch a day underway plus work hours and if they felt like running drills at night we were involved. At best my only free time was from 00-06. Also don't say anything about anxiety you clown. Keep your mouth shut

>>32234117
You get the GI bill regardless of what rate you pick. Going Nuke will set you up for 4 years of boredom. You can go infantry and still become an engineer afterwards. What you do in the armed forces and what you do afterwards could be completely different.

People shit on nuke because recruiters will try to push anyone with a decent ASVAB score into it and it's a horribly boring job. So don't get memed into nuke. You'll regret it.

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>>32234117
Because every rate eats the gi bill. So it's better to choose a rate that's fun and you'll enjoy. Also, I think you mean NUKE which is not a nuclear engineer at all. You can become one once you're out sure but you def do not get a full degree while in.

>>32234085
Officers are politicians. They are pretty faces that do the talking and get the credit but don't actually do anything.

>>32233943
Look man that power ranking crap doesn't mean anything. All SOF do different stuff with green berets probably being the most unique from the others. Just pick what you wanna do and go for it.

>>32234206
This. But it's not just that it's boring, it's shitty for loads of other reasons. I'll post that pic later that sums it up.

>>32234085
I was 19DP1 when I ETS'd.
My platoon had an ROTC guy shadow our LT for something like 3 months. I was on his vehicle and that was squared away. He did everything the enlisted guys did and asked for more. ALL of the GOOD LTs I served with were like that.
Ya the junior officers do paperwork sure, someone has to. Even the PLSgt will help do it if he's not busy chewing ass.

which branch would be the most promising in getting a k9 mos without having to wait forever or having to serve in a different mos first?

>>32234518
Army.

>>32234313
What about warrant officers?

>>32234150
I had debt that was paid off, I've also never gotten arrested, but I have gotten into fights when I was in school like an edge lord and got suspended a few times. One time at work too, the police also came and took my name because one of our customers was starting shit outside, but they took my name for the report or whatever it was as a reference for someone they talked too.

How fucked am I?

Should I go SIGINT?
Will I be able to land a job in private contracting afterwards?

>>32234844
More likely to be able to land a job in public contracting. There's tons of contracting gigs but they're all government support.

>>32234518
>>32234518
>>32234518
air force

>>32234639
That's a special case. They've been enlisted for years and are very hands on experienced. Not counting the helo program.

>>32234873
I meant private security shit. I once got told that some PMCs often recruit in signals. Not necessarily for the cool guy stuff Blackwater does, but asset protection for example
I don't know if that's true though

>>32234711
You should be alright, but he said you won't need it. Even if you do, worst case they'll just move you to a place that doesn't need it.

>>32229221
>>32229226
Anyone knowledgable about TS clearances able to answer this? I'm going for NFO which will almost certainly require a polygraph.

>>32235300
NFO only needs a secret moron
captcha: Dresden

Opinions on 12B? Or should I go 12A? I want to enlist in the National Guard as a 12B, but I have a degree. Everyone seems to believe I'm stupid for not wanting to be an officer

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>>32235316
NFO requires TS once you finish API. Until then it's secret.

>>32230900
You're recruiter is lying to you go Army unless you enjoy eating crayons & hating your life

>>32230949
LT Fick was never Force Recon, he was Battalion Recon

>>32235394
Why would a Marine ever lie?

>>32231017
DON'T SAY SHIT FUCKTARD

>>32232202
Army also has SF, 160th SOAR, & the activity. USAF has PJs, TACPs, & CCTs. Navy also has SWCCs

>>32235414
It's not telling a lie when they leave out the truth.

>>32229304
You can get commissioned as an officer after college, but its through OCS - which you have to compete for.

If you do get commissioned as an officer, you won't go to the Ranger battalion. You'll have to be squared away as an officer to actually be able to send a packet in to get accepted to RASP.

tl,dr You wont become a ranger right after college, if you want to be an officer.

OR you can go to ur recruiter and ask for an option 40 and wait till one opens up.

>>32232726
Lying to get in is a sacred & time honored tradition

>>32235394
>t. civilian that knows nothing about being military

>>32235369
https://www.airwarriors.com/community/index.php?threads/words-of-wisdom-for-candidates-and-lieutenants.6169/#post-69167
Very few TS clearances will even get a poly

What's the best US mil job available for a engineering grad to obtain career-related experience?

>>32235679
infantry

>inb4 stupid questions, anon but
Will Army OCS really take any 4-year degree? Is a BS in Psych perfectly fine? If I finish it in less than three, does that do anything for me?

>>32234711
>>32234954

What he said. How many fucking times do I gotta tell you that you don't need a security clearance for Infantry.

My command selected me to do Intel related stuff or I'd have gone my entire contract without even knowing I had one.

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>>32235494
Wrong

Almost all IBOLC 2LTs have the option of going to Ranger School and getting tabbed.

Infantry Officers aren't respected if they don't have the tab.

So, you might not be in a Ranger BN, but at least you'll have a Ranger Tab

t. 2LT

>>32235478
>>32235478
So in terms of Marines, very little opportunity to become special forces? :/

>>32235944
Why do you think you want to be special forces?

>>32235944
lol anyone posting on 4chan is not SF material

>>32235985
Not him, but what's a "good reason" to want to be SF?
Just asking out of curiosity, I don't give a fuck about being an operator.

>>32236018
They think they'll see non-stop warfare.

Guess they missed the thread a few months back where a Ranger batt. Guy just got back from Afghanistan and saw absolutely nothing.

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What military branch lets me talk about holiday events and fundraisers ALL FUCKING DAY EVERY FUCKING EVERY FUCKING MONTH FOR YEARS ON END while your actual mission falls to utter shit?

Is there a branch that could fill that niche? I am very particular.

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>>32235944
Marine "Critical Skills Operators". Look them up.

Travis Haley was USMC SOF as well

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>>32235660
I see. Do you think they will care about ADHD meds within the last 7 years?

Probably still gonna lie at MEPS though unless I can make two daily doses of ritalin look like one.

Def gonna lie about pot since I don't want to have to get a waiver for it.

>>32235730
Sort of, depends on GPA too along with rec letters/APFT/etc but yes. Yes. No, just means you get to go to OCS sooner

>>32236235
Just don't bring it up dude.
Get it out of your mind that you ever even took meds for it, it's not a big issue like you think it is.
If you haven't taken them in over a year, they wouldn't care either way anyways, so just don't bring it up unless you really feel like filling out the required paperwork

>>32236241
Thanks, anon.

>walk into the recruiters office and tell him that you want 11b or 03xx and won't accept anything else.

I thought that the first thing everybody has to do is choose 3 different mos that they' are potentially interested in?

>>32236324
If it's likely waiverable I'll consider declaring it and just have the waiver over and done with. Is it easy to get a waiver for just 2 incidents of experimental pot use?

What is the Ranger Regiment's version of 18X?

My SF full bird stepfather wants me to go SF but I have no patience for teaching Mohammad Childfucker how to shoot his grandaddy's old M1A1 he took off of a Brit a long time ago. I want to kill things.

>>32237039
how about u kill urself instead

>>32236943
For my rate, im pretty sure you would be declined even with the waiver for pot. I don't know about other branches or mos, but I would bring it up to your recruiter and see what they recommend.
For ADHD, it'll just be hassle, but if you are willing to wait for the waiver to go through and all that, then go for it. I'm not sure if there's anything else you might be worried about in your medical past, but I think they'll pull your records if you are getting a medical waiver.

Also, chances are you won't be put on a polygraph. Just so you know, not everyone gets them, it's mostly for people where there is some concern (family from middle East, etc.), or at least I would imagine. I have a friend who needed the TSSC an didn't get tested, so that's what I'm basing this off of.
Up to you in the end, but I would NOT mention the pot...

>>32229008
I've always wondered if he was lying, hopefully he really is dead and not a drone pilot with a cover story. Maybe become a freemason and get a job at area 51. I have a doctorate in computer science

>>32237039
enlist as 11B with option 40

>>32237091

>>32236018
>what's a "good reason" to want to be SF?
Because you want to absolutely excel, to take on hard challenges and overcome them. A bad reason is COD/Hollywood-influenced ideas of being elite. You don't become elite without putting in an elite level of effort. Slackers need not apply, and I should remind everyone that 18X is basically just a way of getting "needs of the Army" when 90+% of the recruits fail.

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>>32229008
>What are the chances of...

>a reserve unit that operates F-22s
0% chance
>accepting an a pilot application
lol, no
>someone without experience?
Negative percent.

100% Walt, a Walting Walt Walting as hard as he can Walt.

>>32229333
And that's how bush won florida

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>>32237091

12B or 19K?

Loaded question, i know, but they both spark my interests.

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>all these army retards
>not going for the best branch and best service.
what a bunch fags you guys are. TM here, you fucks dont even know what doing real shit is

>>32237764
How do you enjoy the sub life? You fast attack or boomer? I'm leaving the 14th, wondering what I've got coming :)
I've been on the water my whole life, so I'm comfortable with being out at sea for a while and all that, but how often do you pull in to port? Also, any general tips would be appreciated.

>>32237764
Subamarines! 40 sailors go down 20 couples come up.

>>32237764
everyone knows navy are fags or closted fags.

i dont wanna get a reacharound while working ill stick to 0311

>>32237640
11B or 0311 or nothing

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>want to sign up for a rate in the navy that requires top secret clearance
>have to lie about asthma and ADHD or they won't let me in

/k/, im scared the investigator will find out i lied about my medical records, and they'll kick me out. Should i not take the risk and get a rate that doesn't require tsc?

Quick question: If, when I once upon a time tried shooting for AFROTC, I told them I smoked weed once, do you think that'll fuck up my chances of getting into any other branches? I don't know how thorough they are at finding this stuff out.

>>32237873
That doesn't answer my question, but thanks.

Although, 11B is my 3rd choice.

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Could one join for the Navy/Air Force reserves, get their degree, receive a commission via OCS/OTS or ROTC, and sign up for flight school?

>>32237963
Look at it this way

>lie
You will either you get the rate you want and have a good career or get kicked out (extremely unlikely unless you open your mouth)

>don't lie
You will either not be able to enlist at all or only be able to get a rate you'll hate


Though if you still have asthma, you really shouldn't lie your way in. But if it's some shit that you had as a child and haven't needed meds for a decade, no problem.

>>32235896
>2LT
lmao

>>32238686
He's not claiming superiority or "haha stupid enlisted" or anything. So shut up. Probably posted here during ROTC and is hanging out in free time.

>>32235896
Infantry LTs don't have a choice, they go to ranger. If they don't get the tab then their careers are over at 2LT.

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What a bunch of bullshit. Can't get ahold of them for anything important, but I guess they've got time to pull this shit.

if you get the mighty urge to fap when in basic, where and when are the opportune times to do it?

>>32234941
It's not true.

>>32238709
whoa don't get so defensive m8 just wouldn't actually want to say that i was a 2LT
sometimes i forget they even exist

>>32238740
do it in the showers m8, we had individual showers at sill. i'm sure it's shitty in other places tho

>>32238740
when your on night guard in the middle of the night

>>32238746
What are you then?

I was just an e4 (Marines that's why). Thought it was a depper being a shit.

Are there any military options for niggas with diabetes? Genetic kind not fatass kind.
Google says no but I figure /k/ is the best place to ask.

>>32238770
i'm just an e4 in the army, though i've worked with quite a few ltcs and cols

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> Dad was a D.I. among other cool shit for the corps
> Never joined but it always interested me
> Dad told me explicitly not to join because he did, rather to do it if I really wanted it
> Didn't know what I wanted to do
> Couldn't quite place why I wanted to join the corps
> decide to wait a bit to see if I change my mind
> wandered around for some years
> worked some shitty restaurant jobs, then construction, then was a search and rescue operator, then a firearms instructor/RSO for some gun ranges
> back in construction now, a manager and moving up fast
> I'm 24 but still have a strong desire to join the corps
> I'm in the top 5% of earners for my age group but feel like I wasted my 18-24 years by not joining

If I went down to the recruiter office I'd be 25 by the time I get to boot camp, really want to do MARSOC shit, not interested at all in anything else. Am I too old to get started in the Marines? Would they even take me in MARSOC as old as I am?

Help /k/, I need guidance bad.

>>32238958
28 is the cut off. If you can physically hang and everything you could still do it.

Should you... I dunno. Only you can answer that.

Also the older you are the harder it is on your body. When I got out at 26 as an 0311 my body was more like a 30 something year olds.

So assuming that I'm not going into anything that would require a security clearance, and with no obvious symptoms, I should be fine when lying about something on my medical record right?

>>32238798
Technically yes, but no not really. It would be unprecedented.

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Are there any fun times in the Army or is it all hard work?

>>32239192
Yes.

How good are MEP docs at telling if a scar is from self harm or not?

>>32239225
How did you get those scars, anon?

>>32239225
military doesnt want mentally retarded people in

>>32239225
Extremely. Especially if you did shallow cuts on the arm with a razor like every other emo cakeboy.

>>32239307
I cut to the fat
>>32239287
But they have a whole branch of them

>>32239330
No good. Too thin and shallow to pass off as a knife/animal wound.

>>32239330
Yeah, call others retarded when you fucking cut yourself. You're mentally ill and shouldn't join. You can't handle stress.

>>32239330
Down the river or across the stream?

>>32239367
this.

>>32239330
youre a fuckin retard. go enlist in a mental hospital instead

>>32231576
...why are all three black guys in that pic grabbing/touching a white guy?

Don't go guard or reserve. Go active.

It you don't want to be a leader, don't go through OCS or ROTC

Source: An alcoholic LT who regrets life choices.

>>32239394
They don't want to get mistaken for sandniggers.

>>32239394
The Real Prison Wives of Iraq. You never seen that show?

>>32237088
I see, so basically, don't mention jack shit and I'll be fine, right?

>>32239408
Gotchu, senpai

>>32230523
I miss Bradley's :(

>>32239365
not him, but i have 2 from getting hooked on exposed nails at an airsoft field. i posted about it on here before, and people said i would be fine. im going to meps on Thursday, and i really don't want them to think im some edgy faggot.

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>>32239225
What in Gods name makes you think the military is a good route for you? It's way more challenging than anything you have encountered in your civvie life. There's a reason they don't let you people in, get over it, or lie your way and kill yourself like all the people at my A School have done and ruin your family and friends lives.

>>32239431
For little things that don't affect you in any reasonable way, go for it. If you can't get shit done without concerta or whatever you take, then don't lie about it, but if it really is nothing and you've done fine without it for a year or whatever, then no big deal.
Just don't mention weed, everyone did it in high school or whatever, but you'll be in a load of shit for even mentioning it.

>>32239496
Your doc most likely won't even care, as long as you explain yourself in a decent manner. I've got one all the way across my chest, looks like a surgery or some shit, but I explained it was from dolphin diving across an exposed screw. Lol, even that went fine, so I'm sure you're good as long as you have your story about it.

>>32230888
wrong, you have to have an ASVAB score in order to sign any enlistment papers.

>>32230877
yes, see above

>>32231029
Most Jackson graduates are turds

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>>32239530
>For little things that don't affect you in any reasonable way, go for it. If you can't get shit done without concerta or whatever you take, then don't lie about it, but if it really is nothing and you've done fine without it for a year or whatever, then no big deal.
Been off that shit for almost 6 years senpai. Christmas is my anniversary. Been so long I can hardly even remember it...

>Just don't mention weed, everyone did it in high school or whatever, but you'll be in a load of shit for even mentioning it.
What weed? I never did any weed.

Ten years from now, I'll either be retiring and heading to law school/engineering grad school or coasting through life on part-time jobs. Wish me luck senpai.

>>32232681
found the grunt who has never deployed

>>32239496
>doesn't want to sound like an edgy faggot
>plays airsoft
>"yeah, doc... that airsoft game got pretty aggressive."

they're going to laugh you out of that meps station

>>32230922
The fuck is an 09S?

>>32239408
Can you go to school full time while you're active?

>>32239692
It's the MOS code for officer candidate

>>32239692
A big mistake.

>>32239654
That's the right attitude

Don't reenlist with STAR or whatever your branch has for early reenlistment, unless you are totally sure. You say you want to do 10, but you may hate it and once you reenlist, theres no backing out. Just give it time before you make any reenlistment decisions, and try to ignore any reenlistment bonuses in the decision.

>>32239681
They don't even speak proper English half the time. My doc asked me what branch I was in 4 times before I left his room, he was so old and senile. I doubt they really even know what airsoft is nor care desu~

>infantry
>wanting to be cannon fodder like some pleb
Lmao enjoy washing rocks kids

>>32239707
Thanks. Even though no one asked I'm trying to go into aviation. I haven't decided civilian or military yet. What will my asvab score have to be to fly for the navy or air national guard, or coast guard?

>>32239743
Hey, check it out.

NO means new opportunities in the military. I'm in the Guard and every pilot I've talked to has said don't give up. It may take a while but it's worth it.

Don't be pants on head retarded and you'll be alright brother.

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>>32239743
Just shoot for the best you can do and learn how to take the test online. I'm dumb as hell but took like 4 practice asvabs and got a pretty good score, the engineering tests I needed for my rate are stuff I'm pretty well learned in, so those went well because of that.
Really just prep and you'll do well enough for whatever rate you want, as long as you aren't truly stupid.
PS go Navy :)

>>32239706
You can, but it's fucking hard. The military encourages it, though.

>>32239854
Okay. If I do a shit job can i back out and go to civi school? Also im a junior in college so is it too late for me to do Navy OCS?

>>32239875
It's never too late to do OCS.

>>32239875
>Back out
Bruh you can back out up until you've sworn in to active duty, from what I understand. They'll tell you you can't, but if you want to walk at any point you are more than free to
>too late
Nah, although I might suggest finishing your degree before you enlist. If nothing else, it's nice to have the degree post military.

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>>32239728
I'm going for NA/NFO. That's a 5 to 8 year commitment. Depending on how awesome it is, I might stay or leave. I'd like to stick around until I'm O-5 but I'd rather get out sooner, slay bitches with my holy sword, and make babies like rabbits somewhere in Wyoming or Utah while working a flying job.

>got a 8 on my PFAR even though I completely missed the cue to begin listening out my left ear
Shame, but it's good enough to make me competitive.

>>32239863
Would it be better to be a reservist until I finish my degree?

>>32239875
>Also im a junior in college so is it too late for me to do Navy OCS?
You need a college degree to do OCS. And I'm fucking 24 and going for OCS. I don't want to hear your fucking excuses, youngter.

>>32239905
Right on.

My degree is in music performance lmao. But it's on scholarship so I will finish it.

>>32234106
pls respond

>>32239916
Eh, most of the people I saw in college were Guard/Reserve.

I graduated college and went to OCS. If the officer's life is for you I'd recommend trying to finish college first or ROTC.

>>32239926
I'm just asking. The Marine pilot program asks that you be no older than a sophomore in college. That's why I wanna go navy.

>>32239943
Have you ever done illegal drugs?

Do you have any medical history that might preclude you from active military service?

Did you have a poor GPA/a shitty major?

Did you score below a 2200 in the SAT?

Do you lack 4 professors to fill out a referral for you?

>>32239734
enjoy hating your life behind a desk fatty

>>32239906
Similar to my commitment, and my life goals post military. Godspeed, anon.
Also how the hell did you miss that? I can understand missing the fucking beeps cuz they're actually hard to hear, but the cue? Lol

>>32239930
Instrument? I used to play Eb contralto clarinet for like 7 years. That's a pretty neat degree tho, no shame in the classical arts.

>>32239943
Do it then. It's a great opportunity for you, especially with new president. Supposedly our per troop spending is gonna go up a good bit, which means better conditions for the next 8 years hopefully.

>>32228882
FUCKING THIS

POGS CAN FUCK OFF AND DIE

>>32240010
Yeah. Would have gotten straight 9's but I sneezed halfway and all of a sudden I heard "right" again and then I knew I was fucked. Still, I fucking rocked the exam.

>>32234106
Hey Im same fagging hard here because I really need some insight if there are any older dudes on here. Im feeling kinda lost.

>>32239941
Is there no advantage to being in the military already while taking classes?
I'm asking, because I figured I'd do better if I were in both the reserve and ROTC at the same time. I tend to sit on my ass and do nothing if I don't have things to keep me busy

>>32240066
LOL
That's pretty good
Good job though, hope all goes well for you

>>32240119
Thanks senpai. Take care.

>>32240094
There are basically no benefits unless you're in the military for several years prior to getting your commission.

>>32240094
This guy gets it. >>32240153

>>32240153
Not true. Tuition Assistance. It's only like 5k a year, but he could go part time and get a few credits each year. Come out a semester or so ahead.

>>32234106
>>32239937
>>32240075
Look man its your life. We cant tell you whats best for you. All i can say is go with whats gonna make you happy, what youll enjoy. Ho with your gut. The second you think of going SF if you feel happy and excited then its what you want and its what you should do. If you dont youll regret it for the rest of your life.

>>32240075
Hey, going natty g then going to selection is a good plan. You get great pre selection training, the selection/go rate across the q course is much higher because they usually only send people who will make it. If you fuck up, you're only in the guard for a weekend a monthuge instead of riding an 11b contract for 5 years.

>>32240212
Tuition assistance doesn't kick in until a year after you finish your training.

And if he goes to school part time to use that tuition assistance (after waiting 18mo+ to use it in the first place), then guess what, he'll be in the military for several years prior to commissioning, just like I said in my first post.

>>32239496
if you just explain what happened and you dont sound like a depressed oaf and the story seems legit, they shouldn't give you any shit.

>>32240075
>>32240386
Additionally, dudes that look like beasts fail out all the time. Balance is key, you'd be surprised how many smaller guys make it because they have the mobility to avoid injury.
You can become a coke machine carrying a 240 after you get to group, but everything leading up to that is a shitton of rucking, running, sfpa's and ubrrs.

>>32239530
>>32240447
thanks guys. it just sucks how my left arm is so chewed up. Being right handed means its out in front, taking all the hits, falls, and most other abuse during activities.

>>32240153
I would have to be in for a few years anyway, because I haven't attended a four year university. The 50+ credit hours from the quarter based community college I wen to in high school and whatever credit I would receive from training would probably reduce that time though
>>32240212
>Tuition assistance
Honestly, I only need it, because I don't want to make my grandparents pay for everything. But one's both a retired chief of NRL electronic warfare and former NATO branch head; the other is a recently retired bankruptcy lawyer, so paying won't be too big of an issue

Which special force has the longest training pipeline? CCTs or PJs?

>>32241226
Those 2 or 18D with one of the harder languages.

>was told only chance at reenlisting was with the reserves due to medical discharge even though physical therapy fixed my knees
>tfw will never be a high speed death machine

>>32241276
be a drone pilot

>>32241288
I was told active duty was not taking any with the reenlistment code 3 at all so no go on that

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22 years old, a freshman at community college.

I want to do Navy ROTC. In 2012 I was arrested for felony possession of a controlled substance, marijuana possession and possession of drug paraphernalia. I did the pretrial intervention (PTI) program and was never convicted. In 2013 I was arrested for marijuana possession again, although the adjudication was withheld.

I was stupid, I know.

Am I pretty much barred from becoming a commissioned officer or even joining the military in general?

>>32241395
Both times I had to take a group drug counseling class as well.

>>32241395
The latter, you can't join at all. You can try for a waiver, but even that is mostly for kids who admitted they smoked recreationally one time, not for felons.
Feel free to try your luck, you may get in, but I doubt it.

>>32241395
try and lie.
What's the worst that can happen?

>>32238744
So they only recruit in tier 1? Even the less reputable firms?

>>32230151
Mine**

>>32241709
>Tier 1

Not a real concept outside video games.

I got a $120k/yr stateside contracting gig after one term in the military, but that's for having a clearance and being good at my desk job. You don't need to be an oper8tr to work a contract, unless you want to do action movie shit.

>>32242052
>action movie shit.
If by that you mean all the secret shady stuff PMCs do in the middle east, then no
There's a middle ground though, does armed protection qualify as 'action movie shit'?

>>32228872
"Lying at MEPS"

Does that cover when they lie to you too?

>be me at MEPS
>spend half the morning standing in various lines
>holding pee for the peepee test
>can't hold it much more
>flag some random official looking fellow down
>pardon me, sir. I really need to go to bathroom but I am not sure when the urine test will be.
>very kindly looks down the hall at the door we are lined up outside of
>"You have time. Go ahead and go."
>pee like never before.
>20 year old prostate allowing a firehose-like stream.
>rush back to line
>some guy pokes his head out of the door we are lined up at
>"Let's go!"
>30 seconds later, I'm in the doorway looking in.
>wall of urinals to the right
>I swear the guy who told me to go walked by smiling.

>made me stand at urinal holding my pud until I filled the jar half way.

>>32230409
>thumbnail
lol why do u have that fucking thing

>>32232449
>DEVGRU is SEAL's bitches

Whoever told you that is pants on head retarded. DEVGRU select from SEAL and occasionally EOD teams, and are the best the SEAL program has to offer, with even more training and an insane budget

I'm planning to Join the Army as 11B. What's it like? I kinda wana get an idea of what I'm in for.

Also, what's with the marine meme? Can someone explain that for me?

>>32237855
lol I hope you like crayons and being our little bitch while we haul your retarded ass around and patch you up when you look down the barrel while cleaning

>>32242416
Meant MARSOC not DEVGRU as in MARSOC are SOCCOM's btiches for the meat grinder

>>32239496
I'm the anon who replied to you the first time. Everyone here is telling you to do the same thing I said then. Good luck brah

If you lie about something minor on the sf-86, what re the chances they find out during a TS clearance

>>32241552
Well the second plain old marijuana possession charge I can't even find the records of on that county's website. The felony charge I easily found records of by going on my county website.

I'm pretty sure a google search of my name brings up my mugshots.

I mean I would like to lie about the second misdemeanor charge, and if it comes up just say I forgot about it. Lol

I have almost no doubt I would get found out, but I might as well try.
I wouldn't have been planning on joining for at least another year, so in the mean time before I go and try my luck, I should do community service and what not yeah? Make myself seem as much of an upstanding citizen as possible?

>>32242913
99.98%.

Kanuck coming out of school with a chemistry degree - can someone point me in the right direction on becoming infantry?

If I want to actually do stuff on the field, should I avoid becoming an officer?
I was told that officers received better training, better opportunities and that they could do just as much field work as enlisted personnel. Is it true?

>>32235896

Hey 25a Signals Officers, is it possible to go from civi right to signals officer ?

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>>32243717
Civi Rights? Is that a degree or your work background?

I'm a network officer in the S3 shop of my BN right now, unsure of what you really mean.

Just shot a 190 on rifle qual and it feels bad.

Well ther is always table 2

>>32243938
No, from being a civilian.

Sorry for lack of clarity.

I am a student studying applied software systems (at a technical college), and I am interested in becoming a Signals Officer.

I am in my early 20s.

I would like to know if it's possible for me to become a Signals Officer, considering my youth and no prior military service.

Thank you

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How hard is it to get Operations Intelligence in a 4-year air force contract? Do I just go to a recruiter and ask if I can get that job?

I'm sure I can do well enough on the ASVAB, but I'm a 27 year old college dropout (with 80ish credits), if that matters.

>>32242971
Why do you say that

>>32230365
Sounds like something's damaged internally but hurts like a bitch because it's healing. Try to swipe more food where you can, something big and meaty ideally, and find ways to not move.

>>32243952

In boot camp I shot a 233 on table 1 which was 2nd highest in the company and thought I was hot shit for a week, my senior DI even gave me a milky way bar. Then I booted it up lost my expert by shooting something dismal like a 68 on table 2 because I loaded my magazines wrong and got the instructions confused like a true fucking boot.

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>>32244025
Once you graduate go to a recruiter and tell them you want to become an officer.

If you are dead set on Signal, your best option at getting that Branch with a 100% guarantee is Guard or Reserves. Active you need to compete for it while at OCS unless you put in a packet while your at OCS showing your credentials. These often get approved. My class had 2 Cyber and 2 Flight/Aviation branch packets put in, and both got them.

If the packet thing doesn't work, try and get a very high place on the class OML (order of merit list) at OCS. Then you'll be among the first to pick what branch you actually want. If you're low on the list, you'll likely end up as FA, IN, or Ordnance.

>>32244733
do you still shoot at (((people)))?

>>32244733
Ok, thank you.

I think I'm going to try to join the Reserves as a Signals Officer while I'm still in school.