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Underground Bunker Thread!

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Whats /k/ think about DIY bunkers? Is it a decent idea? Or just a comfy grave you dug yourself?
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>>27798623
where is loo for poo?
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>>27798656
That's what the boxes were for. A "shit" box if you will.
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>>27798623
inb4 unnaground shipping container shitposting
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>>27798683
Any simple Google search will show that those containers aren't meant to hold weight that way, they'll buckle. I'm talking about an actual concrete Bunker. I'm just curious what /k/ thinks.
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Death traps. Only reason they didn't plug the air hole is cause the kid.
just start pumping water in there
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>>27798623
how you supposed to shit in the street if you're underground ?
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>>27798703
Throw some camouflage around it, I feel like it would be pretty fucking easy to hide a 12" pipe with a little imagination.
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>>27798728
Not to mention generally stay away from pissing off the wrong person lest it become the Branch Dividian Boogaloo.
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>>27798696
>arent meant to hold weight
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>>27798623
I want to build a bdsm/panic room in my basement. I want to get like a used prison door.
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>>27798744
All of that weight is on the corners, not the roof. Dirt would be on the roof.
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>>27798744
I'm not that anon but do be aware that shipping containers are designed to be bio-degradable. Having your shit collapse around you because it wasn't made for that purpose is still anything but helpful. So the point of "don't use containers" still stands.
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Just make one of these.
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Or buy one of these.

I guess you could cement over and around it... layer by layer. Too much at once might not work.
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>>27798744
From the side you dipshit, they buckle from having weight and pressure put on the side of them, they aren't designed to have weight all around them, just on top of them. You just say the first thing that pops into your head don't you?
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>>27798744
but they only sit on each others corners no weight in the middle of the top. Some weldet in crossbeams it should do the job
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>>27798744
They hold weight on the corners jackass. There's a metric shit ton more pressure that gets placed on the side panels and roof than they were designed for. They end up buckling under the pressure and caving in.

>>27798696
Mostly a throwback to a /diy/ meme that /k/ managed to make unfunny

The best method for an underground bunker varies by your location. If you live in a temperate zone, you need to build your foundation below the frost line. In parts of Australia, you can dig into the ground and not even need to worry about things like foundations or flooding.

Since the threat of nuclear war has sharply dropped, there's not too much of a reason to build something like in the OP pic
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>>27798623
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>>27798800
Nice dubs, and good info, thanks anon.
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>>27798800
>solar angles for Minneapolis
This is pretty handy to have just in general
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Obligatory image.
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>>27798836
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Where would my farts go ?
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>>27798869
Just now realizing the problem with unnaground and innasub?
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>>27798760
>bio-degradable
that's what "rusting" is getting called now?
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>>27798926
When something is designed with falling apart and being reclaimed by nature in mind, it's typically called bio-degradable. But yes, they are meant to rust to shit.
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Why aren't more homes built with concrete boxes as basements.
Then just build a normal house on top.
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>>27798760
Stop posting
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>>27799195
I can't tell if you're joking, it's called a foundation
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>>27799039
Most steel corrodes after enough time.
That's why you paint it and seal it from the elements. It slows down corrosion.
I've seen cars from the 20's that look brand new. And cars from the 80's that are almost gone.
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>>27799229
I understand what a normal foundation looks like. I'm saying make it a complete box, with a roof. Then build a house on it like its a slab.
No need for panic rooms or storm shelters. Your basement is a concrete bunker.
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>>27799272
OK yeah that's doable. It's just cheaper to make it with a wood floor. If you wanted a bunker then extending the basement into an enclosed concrete room would be the best way to go.
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>>27799256

That's Lord of the Rings level wizardry. Orcs used brand new swords that were already rusting away, the good guys used swords that were thousands of years old that were rust free and glowing... and the people that used those swords had beards.

People that drive classic cars frequently have beards, too.

Coincidence? I think not.
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>>27799195
welcome to europe.
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Dream house.
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Anyone know how underground structures stand up to earthquakes?
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Build a concrete bunker basement
With an extension away from the house with an escape exit.
So if the house collapses, you aren't trapped under the rubble.
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These threads always get me thinking about all the abandoned underground places I've seen or heard of.
I've got a mental list of ones that would make good shelters/bugout locals in the event of something.
The PA turnpike is a good one.
It's right down the way from my aunt and uncles house.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideling_Hill_Tunnel
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>>27799763
Ball room wtf? swimmingpool would go as water storage.
Garage at the bottom genius bet that guy has one in the lottery.
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>>27798926
How would you preserve this kind of structure? It's all metal, almost, what about the effects of the weather? Can't see it very well-insulated, either.
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>>27800123
Container houses have many problems. Insulation and small dimensions are two. Placing an insulation on the inside, while being simple to do, would use much space. Better is to put an insulation layer on the outside. Then, somehow add a roof to shelter the container from the elements (mainly water that would produce mold on the container's flat top). By using double glass windows, you'd achieve a pretty good overall insulation.
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>>27800123
They hold up surprisingly well on their own. In construction we use them for site offices and storage for tools and materials because they're harder to break in to than a regular shed. I have seen containers older than I am. Certainly never heard of them being built to biodegrade before.

>>27800187
>somehow add a roof
>somehow
...You've never done much with your hands, have you?
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>>27798623

>4ft underground

What is the point of making something "underground" when anything bigger than chihuahua can dig you out in like 15 minutes?
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>>27800297
36 inches underground is considered deep enough for a standard bomb shelter. He probably didn't build it with the intention of one day taking hostages. Most amateur bunkers aren't built to protect you from a SWAT raid.
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>>27800275
I was beginning to think I was the only tradesman in this thread.

I have something similar rented on a farm. Theyre surprisingly easy to insulate >>27800187 and contrary to popular belief insulation takes up barely any room. You can even fit a small stove in similar to the kind you find on small boats. I mean people live in caravans this size and theyre pretty spacious and cosy.

related
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>>27800453
Interior of one made into a bedsit, panelling on walls and a PVC doorframe inserted. The corrugated grooves on walls and ceilings means you can slot insulation into the grooves to bring the walls level then panel over them.
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>>27799497
That's awesome
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Why dig one when I can go to a damp, mostly flooded, old military bunker?
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>>27799763
>car lift only takes cars up to the kitchen

For what purpose
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>>27800707
>Not having an home drive-through
Stay pleb anon
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>>27798673
DESIGNATED SHITTING BOXES
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>>27798775
Just build a wooden frame around the walls to keep the dirt fron crushing it
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>>27798623
bunkers you say?
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>>27798696
If a bunker is what works for you, then go for it. Bury a few sections of concrete box culvert, seal the ends with sheet pilings, BAM! now you're Viet Cong 2.0.
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>>27798749
Get a watertight door from a ship.
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>>27799195
>Why aren't more homes built with concrete boxes as basements.
>Then just build a normal house on top.

Many western & central european homes have concrete basements.
The main reason not to is because your house is in an area with high ground water. I live in an area between a river & a swamp, so no basement for me.
It's a huge pain in the ass to properly waterproof underground concrete structures. In time, they do let water through, leading to dampness at best and maybe flooding.

>>27800297
>What is the point of making something "underground" when anything bigger than chihuahua can dig you out in like 15 minutes?

That would be plenty for a fallout shelter if you're not in a high risk area. Just store a month's worth of food & supplies. And a way to store or get rid of your piss & poop in that time.

>>27800123
>How would you preserve this kind of structure? It's all metal, almost, what about the effects of the weather? Can't see it very well-insulated, either.

Those tend to be short term installations. Not longer term buildings. They exist though. There's some office buildings and a hotel in London built like that. But you need to paint it frequently and be pretty vigilant maintenance-wise.


Pic: A way to work with container housing. The roof provides both protection from the rain and the sun. The wind causes a cooling effect as it flows between the outside roof & the containerhousing.
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And here's an example of a semicovered house.
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Here's some pics of a similar concept as in >>27801074
You use the containers to create cheap rooms, under a separate industrial style roofing structure.
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And here's a more basic example. This would require frequent maintenance to ensure the longevity of the structure as well as plenty of insulation.
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Hillbilly example.
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>>27801112

>this nice woodwork, roofing and windows
>two rusted and decayed containers attached

why? for what purpose?
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>>27801136

As far as containers are concerned, those are fine. It's just surface rust. It's a container's natural state. But obviously they should be treated ASAP if they're supposed to remain part of that structure for long.

As to why? Who the fuck knows. Two containers make for an easy frame to slap all the rest on probably?
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>>27801136
>>27801186
Because it's cheap and expedient. Who cares if it only lasts 20 years? Take all the money you saved, buy more containers, and make the next building even bigger.
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>>27801186
>It's just surface rust. It's a container's natural state.

As a someone who moving around this shit for a living using pic related: FUCK NO
This white one is scrap metal and nothing else, unless you cut whole section where hinges are and weld at least few sq m of new sheeting.
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>>27801237

We ship our own shit ourselves (by sea, so plenty of salt) and also use containers to built temporary structures.
I'd suspect it'd be fine with some care & no need to weld anything new to it. I've seen far worse being repurposed. But I must admit I'm not one of the workers involved in the actual repurposing of these things, so I could be wrong.

But it's hard to tell from the pic. You'd need to see it irl.
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>>27798760
>designed to be bio-degradable
>steel

Choose one.
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>>27801186
>star fort
oh baby
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>>27798683
http://lonestarshelters.com/photo-gallery/
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How deep can modern bunker busters go? I was wondering how an underground bunker would stand up to one, but I thought about doing it properly and actually tunneling down into the bedrock using explosives, there are plenty of underground mines that the main decline is over a kilometer deep, which is a bit overkill but it wouldn't be too hard to tunnel down to say 50-100m.
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>>27802091
One of the best penetrators can bury itself in roughly 200 feet deep in hardened concrete.
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>>27802091
If you need to protect your DIY bunker from bunker busters you are doing it wrong.
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>>27800453
This is my dreis
How much total does the box+all the machine equipment cost? I get out of the military soon and am planning on becoming a gunsmith/machinist
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>live in CA
>overdue for huge earthquake
>want to build bunker
>JPL says the earthquake may come in next 2 years, high probablilty
>bunker would probably just collapse and bury all my preps
>if i'm in it i'd be buried alive
>lose all my guns in a tragic bunker accident
>fucking san andreas fault
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>>27798760
>shipping containers are designed to be bio-degradable
>rusting is now called bio-degradable

Hey, my guns are biodegradable too!
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>>27798763
Nissen and Quonset Huts are cool.
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>>27798836
>>27798855
How hard would something like this be as a one man project? I'd love to build a secret hideaway on the local Crown Land where I go shooting, since it's a nice quiet spot. Might make a good bug out/SHTF shelter, and if done correctly, a kickass camping spot on the weekends. But I don't know much about building one, drainage, etc.
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>>27798869
You collect them, pressurize them, and sell the distilled Jenkem to school kids.
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>>27802211
>live in CA
there's your problem
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>>27798623
Coloring books?
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I want a pyramid house.


http://www.korvelo.com/pyramid-house/
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>>27806774
The floor plan.
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>>27806797
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>>27802226
>Hey, my guns are biodegradable too!
lol
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>>27806774
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