So has any of us joined them?
it seems like they have guys they keep for PR and guys that actually fight, I saw another picture of foreigners in the field and they were yoked up tatted veterans with nicer gear, not babby faced dudes in clean gear made of Chinese nylon.
westerners fighting against IS in syria
theres a sizeable number of westerners in active battles (sarrin, south of kobani; tal tamr, west of hasakah city, sinjar, al bashir) right now. pic related was taken on the northern outskirts of mosul
a few guys were rejected by the YPG because they had no combat experience at all and couldn't aim for shit lol
one of those guys was quoted in an article warning westerners of the dangers of fighting in syria
there was a recent combat video of some faggots with FALs speaking in southern accents near kirkuk, let me see if I can find it
heres one of the canadian women (there are 2 or 3) whos fighting near the khabur belt of christian villages, near hasakah. still looking for the video
Not even /pol/
Why is it almost everyone but blacks have the warrior gene? I mean that asain dude looks asain as fuck, not eurasian at all.
Youd think with their incling towards superior physical builds would make them proud redguards. nope.
warning, this is what will happen to you when you don't understand kurdish or arabic and try to insert yourself into the conflict. doesn't matter where you're fighting or with who - if you can't have basic conversations with people or follow basic orders, you're gonna get fucked. these guys are screaming at kurdish soldiers in english when one gets hit after standing up
HAHAHHAHA that one went right over my head HAHAHAHA i felt that one man (background: i neeeeed toshooooot something)
WOOOOAH HA HAHAHAA (sings britney spears whoops i did it again)
phone rings. gun shots. HAHA ITS YOUR WIFE SHE WANTS YOU TO PICK UP A PIZZA
suddenly everyone is running
they stop running. everyone is just standing around.
HEY HE'S HIT
dude's just standing there bent over and holding his leg
"you need anything? you good? he's fine."
cmon lets go! gets in truck and leaves
I think this is that Aussie dude who died a few months back.
I believe the guy on the left is Dutch, the other guy is German
Guy on the left is Greek, don't know where the other guy is from
Guy on the left is British, don't know about the other two
Guy who's from Florida that was wounded a while back, not sure what he's doing now. Was part of a squad called the Chappies
Another group photo, guy kneeling is Konstandinos Erik Scurfield. He served in the Greek army before emigrating to Britain and serving in the Royal Marines. Sometime after he joined the YPG and he died in the fighting around Al-Hasakah.
Uh... No homo guys but, god damn, these guys are really good looking. Like, almost would bang level with some of them.
American in the YPG. Unfortunately no, the Fedora is not Photoshopped in
no, these were volunteers near kirkuk. major battle going on to take bashir, a town near Hawija (the last major base of IS operations in salehuddin province).
american advisors aren't given FALs lol
from the people I talk to, most of our guys ingrained in kurdish units know kurdish and arabic. they have to or else theyd never get anything done
more of the canadian woman, another foreign fighter
guess which country he's from
future's looking bright for the YPG and the people they protect. syrian government has put on the table an autonomy offer, granted they still perform checkpoint duties and work together on getting industry in the northeast running again. Hasakah and Qamishli are cities that once had thriving industry, but now have resorted to the basics. within that autonomy, there was a mention of citizenship for foreign fighters if they desired. if everything goes through, these guys will be offered special citizenship in the country for fighting
I've previously asked about foreign volunteers in the YPG, so do they pretty much just use them for PR and guarding the rear? Because if so then how did the 3 who've died so far (Aussie, Greek guy, and that one German woman) get killed?
The rearguard shit was just a narrative pushed by some faggots that got rejected or performed poorly. There are westerners fighting in all of the major kurdish hotspots except for Afrin, which will heat up as the battle for aleppo gets more desparate
Italian national, half kurdish
It is, you just need to find a way to join the kurds and the fighting zone.
It's easier if you already have someone over there, I remember an article about this French craftsman gone over there for six months because he has family in Iraq, he went back to France a few months ago after participating in a few battles.
From what I saw, you get the ammo, food and weapons, then you have to buy your own protective gear and optics. YOU ARE NOT PAID FOR IT, it's volunteer work.
Yeah I realize I wouldn't get paid for it.
I honestly feel that fighting ISIS is a noble cause. I'm actually disappointed that the US has been willing to kill goat farmers for the last decade but aren't willing to fight against a group that's legitimately fucked up.
While I'm in good physical health and fitness and know my way around an AK, I don't speak the local language and deep down I'm a lazy American. If someone rolled out the red carpet for me and set everything up, I would honestly get on the plane and go. But that won't happen.
So no ISIS killing for me at this time.
most of the iranian advisors (that you probably won't run into unless you're near hawija and even then probably not) speak arabic too. its how they tell militias what to do
westerner fighting at the city of sarrin, south of kobani, east of aleppo
honestly can't remember where the girl on the right is from
--near hasakah city
>sooo many different uniforms
I swear half of them probably die from friendly fire..
its more of a problem for the air support that they get occasionally from both the syrian army and the coalition
IS wears ragtag outfits too so its difficult figuring out whos on the right side
yeah i thought so
cant they just at least get same kind of hats?
Bump with Jordan Matson, who seems to be the poster boy for Americans in the YPG
the aussie who fell in the final hour before they liberated tal hamis in hasakah province
'murican fighting near sinjar city
He seams like a propaganda tool more than anything to me. It doesn't seam like the Kurds need the man power and I've read a lot about how they get treated like shit once they get there and will never see combat.
one of the first americans to fly to erbil and fight. taken last summer
What kinda of gear and food would you get if you joined?
If i was going to join i would like to bring my gear but i don't think i would be able to get it through the airport etc.
also i would like to get paid...
its the mideast so there are FALs and AKs lying around everywhere
every time they win a fight they collect all the guns and redistribute their shit to new people
if you're in iraq they have tens of thousands of makarovs lying around
Top notch propaganda thread guys.
Call me when ISIS or whatever boogeyman we're fighting this year attacks Iowa and maybe I'll give a fuck then.
pic related, average haul from taking out an IS car in hot zones
lol yeah for all the US/Syrian military equipment these guys captured, they don't seem to be using the nice guns
ah well, guess you can pick up some neat patches
might as well make a checkerboard of patches with assad's face
I really wonder what it says on Skull and crossbones patches...
IS is pissed about YPG advances north of raqqa. Expect a huge offensive on hasakah soon. Once ramadi is cleared, theyll regroup and try to push (harder than they already are) towards ras al ayn west of. Hasakah city>>25568791
unsure of the greek, but the Aussie bled out after taking a hit to the chest during a gunfight in the town square of tal hamis. sucks, really, considering he had fought through several small towns for almost 40 miles to get there only to die at the very end
--chinese, from somewhere in manchuria
answering the other question, yeah they're pesh volunteers. though, lately they've been asked to direct US volunteers towards the YPG and HDP-Star as they're trying to turn the peshmerga into more a professional army than simply fighters that do a lot of guerilla warfare. notice in a lot of their recent videos they have combined arms, infantry assisted convoy movements, better squad tactics when compared to a year ago. YPG and other groups are a hell of a lot more unrefined and varied but they're still good fighters
>jill came down, so we stoned her to death.
YPG released some more photos of westerners on its Facebook page Lions of Rojava. Unfortunately they're not captioned but let's have a look
>not understanding what low-expressing MAOA actually is
skull and crossbones is part of the republican guard emblem
4 variations are the 104th, 105th, 106th, and damascus guard patches
patch goals: damascus guard, yazidi honor guard, iraqi golden division
I will have them someday
--injured fighter near kobane, heading back from the front lines
kurdish isn't that bad, you could pick it up within a few weeks. unlike arabic, sentence structure is linear and left to right
having shot a gun once or twice would help a lot. you need to be 100% sure you're mentally and physically ready for some unspeakable shit though lol
for americans, the way our government portrays Iraqi forces, FSA, assad's forces and IS make it difficult for the average person to get behind a faction in the conflict. kurds are that "fourth faction", most people hadn't even heard of them until kobani and mosul/sinjar
PKK in syria is more libertarian than leftist. syrian government is ensuring that by putting their cantons on paper. like I noted earlier the ongoing negotiations that started last week could mean that anyone who fights and lives in their little cantons are given citizenship
I guess, in a way, you could start up a different life if you wanted to, provided you don't get captured by a snackbar before this is over
reason I support the YPG is because of their taking the fight to IS and their alliances with the assyrians/yazidis. they want to take the fight to raqqa - I say let them
that being said, syrian government is something we shouldn't ignore here in the states anymore. its hampering the fight against IS by not working together. kerry needs to suck it up, give up on the "moderate rebels" shit because its long gone
--average day in tal tamir
A disproportionate number of guys who are good all round soldiers, (fitness, discipline, accuracy camraderie etc) are pretty aestehtic. Don't know why, maybe it's an evolutionary thing which made women go wet for natural operators.
Obviously there are exceptions, but some of the best soldiers I have known have been handsome motherfucers.
Looks like Athelstan decided to join the fight.
Weaponry belonging to some of the foreign fighters.
--candid photo during the fighting for Kobani's rural outskirts
Dude, it's the Middle East. There's assloads of them out there.
whoops wrong photo
on the table is 150 but the actual numbers are more like 250-260. they're the only ones qualified to handle the heavy artillery they brought with them when the kobani campaign was first heating up. they are often attached to the YPG/FSA squads they they send out to the hundreds of objectives (villages, factories) that surround the city so they can call shit in. they've done 4 shifts now, with the current shift (culminating in the siege of the city of Sarrin to the south) being probably the last
there are also peshmerga artillery units in hasakah, helping out near tal tamir and tal brak
if IS loses Sarrin, expect IS to do some desperation shit to counter it. next stop after that city is either Jarablus or Tal abyad - the last two border crossings IS controls
I'll bump with some IS killing
I'm around the region a bit, have some friends that have a lot invested in winning the fight, and generally I can't stand wahhabis
also it makes for good conversations on plane flights
--british marksman near tal tamir
you'd be surprised how many I'm not!
all in a hard day's work
>What kinda of gear and food would you get if you joined?
G3 and G36
The big risk is that you end up fighting for or with a group that ends up on a EU/US list of terrorist organisations.
A friend of mine fought in Croatia in one of the ad hoc militias and returned to England before they were incorporated into the Croatian Army. He had some serious trouble with the police when he was identified in a photograph stood with a man wanted for war crimes. Nothing came of it but it wasn't a nice time for him.
Basically, you go and fight for these people and even if you make it back alive you better hope that they don't do anything that pisses off western intelligence down the line.
I heard on the radio, the American government was trying to convict one guy for something to do with terrorism using a weapon of mass destruction, because he used an RPG against 'the so-called Islamic State'
I saw a story about that. Turns out the government thought he was working with a terrorist group, and they were surprised that he was being so cooperative about it, but then they realized he was working with the US backed rebels in Syria, and now they are trying to charge him with simple weapons smuggling or something retarded because they fucked up and invested way too much into fucking him to go away with out something to show for it. That government intelligence brah.
Think of it this way. No matter what IS do to people, you've got a history with a Kurdish militia. That Kurdish militia will have all sorts of links and activities to things that pretty much every country in the western world will consider terrorist or fanatic.
If you want a bit of war then you're probably best off going to Ukraine. I wouldn't recommend that either, but it's the safer choice in terms of legality.
Red One says anti Terrorism and the yellow one says fourth squad - eagles In the sky lions on the ground
The patches in the bottom say Assad's Syria - Special Forces
I speak fluent arabic and can translate all of except the second one from the top right that has an eagle on it because its in Farsi
what about this nazi shit
thid Looks like filmed in Mississippi
Wasn't it declared that Americans can't return without getting arrested? Fuck, heard people are getting jailed just trying to get there.
I'd pay my own way because I can afford to. I'd even bring all my own shit have plenty left to share. Language barrier would be my main weakness.
>they should add a HUD with the map displaying the units in real time, Battlefield does it.
They could just put a description in English, if they want people to know about why and how they fight.
>They could just put a description in English, if they want people to know about why and how they fight.
because they give a shit about english farts
by the way: they flood the Internet and the media with Videos since the start of the war.
state department's official narrative that as long as its the YPG/YPJ, Pesh, or any of the christian groups its fine and legal
the second you join up with the northern FSA detachments (despite their previous support of them) you're listed
some fun tank combat out of idlib today
that being said, I don't think /k/ are the type of people to join up with islamic revolutionaries
its syrian army surplus, hafez assad used to supply the kurds with anything they needed. bashar did for a bit but eased up as they started talking about more autonomy in the early 00's
--kurdish sheepdog (kangal)
Yeah I was thinking that. Died a hero. Say what you want, he killed IS rats. He had a good run.
>we don't view YPG/YPJ as the same as the PKK
>its only bad if you join islamist groups like al nusra
>currently no policy in place against US citizens joining militias fighting against IS as long as they are not islamist groups
>the bimbo psaki says government has no rules barring citizens fighting terrorist organizations
>only reiterates syria is a dangerous place
>specifically mentions jordan matson
--US woman who recently finished training with YPJ
--matson and some comrades fucking around a forward camp.
matson's face is all like
>manlets will they ever learn
True I don't understand the history of the kurds, but Switzerland is mostly Christian Caucasians, not located in the middle east, and not communist. So I fail to see the connection to Kurdistan.
>no combat experience
>not very fit
>not that great of a marksman
>lel chair force
>no second language
>Flarg tier piloting skills
I'd end up being more of a liability that wastes money than anything else. That's why I'm not a mercenary.
I guess he means the potential money that'd go into arming/feeding/hosting you. AKs and food are really cheap in iraq so its not a lot either way
While I don't have a problem with people going to fight in that mediaeval shithole
What I do have a problem is one of them gets captured then professional soldiers have to put there lives on the line saving them
They should agree if they get caught there on there own
guy I know that went in january got an rpg7 + 5 rockets for 200, ak and several hundred rounds for it for 450 after bartering with some shop owner in erbil
as I understand, at one point (like 5 years ago) an ak only cost around 300. IS came around and it shot up tremendously but they're pretty cheap again
apparently KRG dealers won't even consider you unless you've had a background check with the pesh
I cant answer for the ypg or if they even sell any
because you are some fucktarded literal autistic moron and you don't understand analogy, so apparently your social retardation is everyone else's problem. fuck off you special flower.
same as used in this video. if I can remember correctly, its a custom rifle they make in rojava named "zagro" or something. its 50 cal and made from a patchwork of chinese and turkish parts
If you go, be prepared to be held for a few weeks when you get back. Lots of nasty questions. I went to help train those who went over and also turned people away who were far overweight or just too stupid to understand how to fire a gun properly. Most of those turned away were either Chinese or French.
You may not be stopped on the way back, but I got paid, so I figure that must be the reason for the billion questions.
Hey, a few drops of ice in your blood...
1) that gun the ypg hands you will most likely be some relic from the Saddam era. Badly worn, knocked about, imprecise. There is much good to say about the AK's but after 40 years of use and abuse, don't expect too much. By contrast the 'regular' Peshmerga soldiers are expected to buy their own guns.
2) The regular route is through Bagdad airport, but you will need to have an appointment with an ypg guy. The opposition team will also be there, trying to make them go with you in their car instead. If you do I hope you have a wealthy and loving family to pay the ransom. Also avoid going through Turkey, there are isis people all over the place.
On the other hand it IS easy to get in touch with the ypg. They have a damn website.
This is where you might want to start considering your options for how much of an electronic footprint you want to leave from here. Which electronic devices you want to involve, which accounts etc. While noone from the govt are likely to come calling on your door tonight you WILL be noticed from the moment you send a message. Proceed accordingly.
facebook, official twitter accounts, then there's the FRAME program of western vets embedded within the peshmerga. they have like 25 guys right now from US/UK and they're looking for more
all of these have a vetting and interview process
>Allah Snackbar ALLAH SNACKBAR ALLAH SNACKBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
If you are a pear, cankles, can barely run for 3 minutes. There are exceptions to the rule - if you have real combat experience or can bring a technical skill you learned in the military with you, they are willing to let you stay. There are a number of lard asses in the communications group; same with mechanics. If you plan on fighting you had better be able to full sprint 30 seconds or run for 4. We also had people hold a rifle up and aim for 3 minutes at a time, and anyone who couldn't do that was sent home.
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anyway, YPG just took over a city south of Kobani known as Serrin. this marks a major defeat for the chechen and uzbeki IS brigades stationed in the northern aleppo district. YPG plans to push west across the euphrates and flush IS out across the greater aleppo area - culminating in the siege of Manbij in the west and Tal Abyad to the east
--some of the vets from project frame