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So I just graduated with a degree in Christian theology >inb4

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So I just graduated with a degree in Christian theology
>inb4 Chrstfag
>inb4 fedora tipping
Yeah yeah yeah, I know.

So my question is this, I'm thinking of joining the military, and to be clear, I am not a pacifist. I am not against killing people under the right circumstances. It is my duty as a Christian to rid the world of evil. If you read the bible it is literally packed from cover to cover with hardcore men of war who fought, and died, for what they believed in. I am debating on if I should join as 11X or 03xx, or apply for a Chaplain position. I cannot seem to find much information on Chaplains in modern military service. I know they exist, but what do they do? I dont want to be locked in some administration building baptizing recruits newborn babies in a sink. If I am in that position I would like to be in the shit with the men on the frontline, and again, I am not opposed to picking up a weapon. Is there suck a thing as a "combat Chaplain" or something of that nature?

Thanks for your help you bunch of blasphemous heathenish faggot sodomites
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>>25305211
>It is my duty as a Christian
>Thanks for your help you bunch of blasphemous heathenish faggot sodomites

and that's how you type?
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>>25305235
Its 4chin bro.
I have no oath or obligation on the way I address my fellow man.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChKfoe-RpFk
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>>25305252
You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.

You shall love your neighbor as yourself

and that's how you type? who cares if its 4chan

if you call your self Christian you represent Jesus

not man.
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>>25305211
>christfag
>studies christfaggotry
>ignores teaching of the bible
all seems in order here
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>>25305211
Chaplains dont pick up weapons. And they exist as mental/spiritual health specialists and religious experts. Your job will be to care for the morale and welfare of any soldier that comes to you for aid regardless of denomination and to support spiritual health of the unit for all religions. And run your own specific service too.
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>tfw no paladin
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>>25305319
this
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>>25305301
>>25305319
Please do not get into a theological debate with me. That is not why I am here, and you will lose.

Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
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>>25305404
What exactly do theologistfags read that lets them just whip out a verse to counter every argument? Just the Bible over and over again?

I mean, I'm not really religious, but it'd be a pretty fun thing to be able to do.
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What denomination of Christianity? You may be a heretical piece of shit.

Chaplain's usually aren't supposed to be armed. They're considered non-combatants. Although there are times in history where chaplains took up arms, I wouldn't count on you being one of these. That being said they do have chaplains in the field. To what extent however, I cannot say.

Also keep in mind that you have to see to the "spiritual needs" of all soldiers, regardless if they're christian or not. I don't think you'd have a problem with that, but all the same I mention it.

Also, the soldiers I know kept their distance from their Chaplain so don't expect too much from them if you decide to join up.
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>>25305404
>you will lose

actual picture of OP
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>>25305442
> Although there are times in history where chaplains took up arms

Armed preachers are best preachers.

This dude was a Bishop.
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This thread is Lutheran because its pre-destined to 404 for devolving into /pol/ tier jargon.
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>>25305498
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>>25305404
Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

so me quoting Matthew's 22 is corrupting talk?

because you were calling people faggots?
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IN

___________________________________

OBAMA IS NOT MY PRESIDENT
Vaccinations are a gay atheist muslim conspiracy
Civil Air Patrol (2002-2003)
"Jesus take the trigger"
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>>25305211
Christian Theology or Catholic Theology?

I ask because one one of them has serious Theology.
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>>25305433
Well, when you are raised in a Christian household, attend several church services every week, several bible studies every week, then go to college for 4 years studying the bible, and having religious debates and discussion with your class, it becomes pretty natural.

>>25305442
I was raised Lutheran, but am practicing non-denominational
Thank you for your informmation

>>25305487
>imblygin
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>>25305523
only one of them*
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>>25305520
This is now an ARFCOM thread.

-----------------------------------------------------
Melon Labia
Mark LaRue is the best thing since Jesus
Gotta love dillo dust!
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>>25305498
More like Calivist
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This thread is entertaining
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>>25305211

>degree in Christian theology

No wonder you sound like a compleat fucking moron
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>>25305498
kek

>>25305516
I have no idea wht you are trying to imply

>>25305520
kek arfcom

>>25305523
Christian. I kind of have a problem with burning women at the stake for being able to add 2 digit numbers, and hanging millions of people who can read, write, or play musical instruments... so...
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>>25305211
Dont listen to the haters. If you wanna serve then serve. I dont see why you need the title of chaplain. The fellas you get put with will figure out pretty damn quick your religious and will probably look to you for religious guidance when they need it.
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>>25305211

On the enlisted side the Navy has a rating call Religious Programs Specialist, worth a google.

All I know is that they do a lot of admin. work assisting chaplains and accompany. Also act as a body guard when in a combat zone
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>>25305574
>compleat Fuckin moron
>compleat

People in glass houses
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>>25305574
Alright there champ. Take it easy. You dont want to overfuckulate that brian of yours
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>>25305576
>Not Catholic

No glorious Crusades against kebab for you, faggot. Get your broken philosophy out of here, heretic.
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>>25305576
go back to school

i love you
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>degree in Christian Theology
It's literally is amongst the most useless degrees to get besides Women's Studies or Anthropology.
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>>25305605
>3 hour 5am service
>intothetrash.jpg
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>>25305635
>$40,000,000 a year salary
>Useless
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>>25305647
What is Vigil Mass?
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>>25305211
>>25305211
u wot

>>25305269
This shit right here ^
chaplains are just priests/pastors/rabbis/whatever in fatigues

Basically, they're an extra POG to get in the way and use up resources
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OP, are you actually saved, or are you a book-schooled waste of your parishoners' time?
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>>25305688
Jesus dubs demand the truth.
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Chaplains shouldn't even exist. The government paying their wages is unconstitutional.
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>>25305665
There are tons of priests and theologians who don't make as much money as a couple of television preachers.
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>>25305211

Roll as a paladin or battle priest instead.
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>>25305523
>crying Jeanne d'Arc

It's like if Kelly was a medieval Frog.
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>>25305783
kill all the chaplains? got it
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>>25305524
>Well, when you are raised in a Christian household, attend several church services every week, several bible studies every week, then go to college for 4 years studying the bible, and having religious debates and discussion with your class, it becomes pretty natural.

What is indoctrination?
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>>25305979
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>>25305635
You forgot:
gender studies
feminist biology
philosophy
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>>25305211
>implying I am not a christfag too
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>>25305894
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You know, because of how insufferable internet atheists tend to be, Ive always assumed that christfags were the more amicable and amiable of the two opposing fronts. luckily, OP has come here acting like some kind of euphoric stereotype ("don't debate me, you will lose" jesus christ) and reminded me that overly self-assured jackoffs exist at both sides of the spectrum. Thanks OP, you have exposed my biases and helped to make me a more balance human being.
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>>25305211
>degree in Christian theology

ahahahaha
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>>25305211
OP, you are why Christianity as a religion is complete bullshit.

>perfectly fine with murdering people to pillage their countries resources
>death penalty is great
>GOD SAID ABORTING A FETUS IS THE GREATEST EVIL
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>>25305404
The bible is in actuality directly contradictory to the word of Christ because the bible has been rewritten and revised by kings, slave owners, and false prophets in order to justify their own egregious sins.
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>>25305211
I am not a religious man. I do respect the sayings of Jesus though. Here are a few you may have forgotten in your rush to be brainwashed. For some reason Christians like to forget about these. Personally they are my favorite.

Luke 6:27
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

Matt 5:38

Ye have heard that it hath been said , An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law , and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away .

John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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>>25306392
selective sections suggest shadiness.

awesome alliteration, anon!
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>>25305211
Nice.

I'm thinking of becoming Rabbi Chaplain.
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>>25305211
>Iron chariots...

Weaponized iron chariots
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>>25305211
Fucking christniggers trying to turn every war into a crusade.

Not every fight has something to do with god, bible.

Just admit what you really want. It's the same thing most of us want. Adventure.
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>>25306558
>adventure
>burning your own shit 6 days a week

topkek
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>>25306444
Forgiveness and pacifism. Explain how that is selective of Jesus? Seems like he grabbed the two, (the first two are kinda the same) verses that sum up what Christianity should be about.
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>>25305404
>you will lose
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>>25306558
>Fucking christniggers trying to turn every war into a crusade. Not every fight has something to do with god, bible.
>not every fight has something to do with god/bible (implying this one isn't)
>mfw you actually said this retarded shit

>Fighting against Islamic Jihadists who are massacring Christians has nothing to do with God or the Bible

Shit son, do you even know how the Crusades started? Over shit like this.
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>>25306607
Good. Let it start. This time we have the technology to finish it.
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>>25305211
OP, if you are really Christian then you would know that God condones killing in his name. You can be a Christian man and fight and kill in the name of ethics, morality, or good sport, but do not claim that God calls any of us to kill for his name. That is wrong, and sends the wrong message.

It is not your duty to rid the world of evil, I challenge you to find a verse that says that (New Testament, faggot). God wants us to spread the gospel of his son Jesus, not fight evil with violence.

That being said, go out and kill some fucking terrorists, just don't say Jesus told ya to, cause he didn't.
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>>25306607
The US government, is engaging in a global war on terror, not a war on islam, dumb fuck.

Now we can talk about whether or not these groups represent "true" Islam (I'm convincd that they are), but there is no war on Islam.
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>>25306690
>war on terror

I'm talking about ISIS, nigger
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>>25306690
whats the difference?

>"religon of peace"
Pffffff Hahahaha!
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>christfags always talk about ending the tyranny of islam
>scared of scientology at home because muh lawyers
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>>25306716
>scientology killing people
>islam not killing people

Only one of these is accurate.


Just kidding, they're both bullshit.
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Killing in the name of God is no fucking different than killing in the name of Allah. You're both delusory in killing anyone over religious beliefs that have no basis in empirical evidence.
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>>25306780
>M-m-muh cultural relativism!

Get fucked, faggot. That's a slippery slope you have there.
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this might've been a meaningful productive thread if you didn't have to go and boast about your christniggerfaggotness.
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>>25305404
>you will lose
You're right. You can't win an arguement with a delusional fool
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>>25305211
>>25305404
>>25305524
>this man actually has a college degree
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>>25306792
give me one instance where religion by itself justifies killing another human being, ever.
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>>25306778
It's all bullshit and ultimately retarded tribal in fighting.
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>>25305404
>you will lose.
no, you will spout some tired theodicy from the dark ages and pretend it applies in any way to reality.
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>>25305524
>am practicing non-denominational
lmfao

What the fuck did you POSSIBLY learn getting a Theology Degree?

Non-Denominational Christians can only agree on a few things:

>Jesus was a pretty cool guy
>The Bible is a pretty neat book

That's fucking it. Anything more specific and you start running into contradictions, ESPECIALLY in theology.

Fuckin' Protestants.
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>>25306834
the Torah
the Bible
the Qur'an and related texts
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>>25306854
please explain to me how ancient texts that all contradictorily claim to be of unfalsifiably divine origin written by human authors can justify killing someone.
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>there will never be a Mormon/Prostate War in your lifetime.
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>>25306898
I misunderstood, I thought you meant find where they get justification for killing in the name of god.
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>>25306899
>tfw I've been thinking about becoming Mormon
>tfw I would love to help build Deseret
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>>25305211
>mentions a theology degree
>expects anything but an argument

>>25306808
>this
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>>25306899
I think they frown on anal.
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>>25307019
Is that why the catholick church hates them?
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>>25307019
>>25306899
>prostate war
>I think they frown on anal
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>>25307032
wasn't it the mormons that had the chastity belts?
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This thread is an april fool's joke right
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>>25305211
>87 replies
>no answers
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>>25307177
Everyone is too busy shitting on OP, and for good reason.
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>>25305523
>serious theology

>mfw
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>>25307184
what reason is that? its not a ridiculous question to ask whether one can serve as a combatant and as a chaplain at the same time
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>>25307242
because he's a christfaggot
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>>25307242
It is ridiculous because you can't and it's been answered already you fucking retard.

You just eat up logistics and provide nothing in return but m-muh scriptures.
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>>25307292
that's an military actual job? fuck, what about muh first amendment?
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>>25307312
Chaplains don't carry. If they did we might get lucky they'll pop themselves by accident.
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>>25307237
>Thomas Aquinas
>Augustine of Hippo
>Hans Urs von Balthasar
>Gregory I
>Many many more

k
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>>25307332
>Chaplains don't carry
why not?
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>>25307332
That's not what i'm concerned about so much as why there's an actual government occupation based on a religion. You're not supposed to do that.
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>>25307381
doesn't the congress have their own chaplain too?
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>>25307352
>thou shalt not kill
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>>25307414
>thou shalt not kill

Only taken literally by Protestant faggots
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>>25305211
I didn't read through the thread, so I don't know if you got any help or not.

My great uncle worked as a pastor for the local correctional facility and currently works with people who are trying to leave gangs. My religious beliefs are irrelevant, he is a fucking hard ass man and I have much respect for him.

Talk to your recruiter and tell him what you want out of the military. There are men in the army who need a priest and those men serve on the front line. Whether or not you have a rifle in your hand is your choice.
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>>25307387
you can't be serious this is not ok
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>>25307414
>first commandment is you can only worship me
>more important than don't kill people
>rape and slavery never mentioned
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>>25307352
geneva convention
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>>25305211
You MUST go chaplain if you can.

Chaplains are AUTOMATICALLY officers, not enlisted.

You don't have to OCS, ROTC, and whatever else one has to do to be an officer traditionally.

However, you are not "officially" a combat role as a chaplain, but you can be at the front right in the battles if you really request it; you can make an excuse by saying that you want to see your brethren in battle, want to give last rites to dying soldiers during battle, etc.

Good luck.
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>>25307422
Something about

>blah blah you serve god not your country blah

God has no place in a perfectly good war to begin with.
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>>25305211

What my brother's told me is it's basically religious (and non-religious counseling), but he's Air Force and his most consistent report is guys paranoid about cheating wives, so that probably isn't much help.
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>tfw you will have no power armour and chainsword while wearing an ISAF flag tabard storming taliban caves
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>>25306853
thank you.
glad to see other trad. Catholics trying to being people back.
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>>25307606
In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti, my brother
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>>25306853
Not OP, but there are different philosophies that can be presented and foundations on which the faith is done.

Sure, there's "Jesus was tight," "The Bible is dope," but there's other issues.

For instance, Russian Author and philosopher Fyodor Dostoevsky talked about human free will in his book, "The Brothers Karamazov." He was Orthodox and was one of the most religious people on earth, but his book opened both doors. He made one of the characters write a poem (entire chapter long) that went along with:
>Jesus visits Spain during Inquisitions because fuck the rules, just visiting
>people praise him, the church arrests him
>"The Grand Inquisitor" (in famous moment) condemns Christ for condemning man
>He was offered the kingdoms of the world by the devil in the desert, "should have done it"
>By allowing free will, allows human suffering and sacrilige.
>"Show me proof *tips fedora*" would not exist if Jesus took the devils offer.
>remove free will = remove non believers = permanent happiness
>at the cost of human choice though


That's just one example, but a degree focuses on this and the heart of philosophy.
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>>25307414
>>25307422
>straw man

The church recognizes that "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is interpreted as "Thou Shalt Not Murder."
If guy holding knife to you or typical /k/ defense story against Jamal, have at it!
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>>25305211
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>>25306584

Look man, Christ came to bring a sword, and he wasn't afraid to take up the rod and beat every thief out of the Temple of God.

Violence can be justified.
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>>25305404
>Ephesians 4:29
>Do not think for yourself, simply repeat what someone claiming association with divinity tells you.
>Also, don't listen to everyone claiming association with divinity... just the ones of our denomination, because the rest are going to hell.

>>25307864
Violence in protection of what he considered divine. Remind me of other occasions Jesus visited physical violence upon others.
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>>25305404

Ever look at the night sky, and realize the one who created all that wrote a book and even tells us about cooking bread with shit?
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>>25306780

>muslims wanting to convert western countries to their own traditional system of law (sharia) is EVIL BAD
>christians wanting to convert muslim countries to their own traditional system of law (democracy) is GOOD, HERO, OUR BRAVE BOYS, etc
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>>25308128
thank you good sir
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