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IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING. IZHMASH TO SELL AK RIFLES IN U

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IT'S FUCKING HAPPENING.

IZHMASH TO SELL AK RIFLES IN USA AGAIN (by selling company to some random businessman).

http://www.guns.com/2014/09/28/russia-sells-gun-factory-to-businessman-bypasses-sanctions/
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Fuck ya, US and Russia stronk fuck obooga
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>>23005569
While it would be nice if Russia and America could trade nicely together, I suspect Obongo isn't entirely the problem.

We'll see when Rand Paul takes office in 2016.
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>>23005572
No, its not purely king niggers fault but I'm sure he took a lot of pleasure in issuing the order and I hope something like this would be a nice little thorn in his side
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They're just gonna get sanctioned again.
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This could be great, but at the same time might bring more flack towards Russia, e.g. blacklisting even more shit.
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>>23005572
>I suspect Obongo isn't entirely the problem.

You would be correct.
There are still cold warriors on both sides that don't care for each other.
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Go Izhmash. Go Russian billionaires. Fuck the U.S. government and all the people that elected them.
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>>23005569
Cold war attitude of some republicans is to blame as well. Russia nowadays is some kind of corporatism, not communism, they're willing to trade for whatever (up to and including high quality pussy).

They should have gotten their EU and NATO invites after 1989, instead they are pushed farther away so they have to rely on weapons exports. Their factories are producing weapons for Durkas instead of toasters for America, and you know what they say about Maslow's hammer.
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>>23005593
Those faggots need to let it go, America and Russia could do great things if they worked together
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>>23005572
>rand Paul
>not knowing Hillary is coming and the inevitable panic buy 2, electric boogaloo

Gun porn for relevance
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Whatever happened to them opening a manufacturing plant in the U.S.?
Also the 9mm saiga?
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>>23005602
>They should have gotten their EU and NATO invites after 1989

Why the fucking motherfuck would NATO invite the soviet goddamn union to join?
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Don't care until I can buy a Dragunov for a reasonable price.
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>>23005607
Don't even joke about this. I don't want to walk through gunshows and see $3k AR15s again. It made me want to rip out the nearest throat.
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>>23005621
Buy em now, son. Buy em now.
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"Ban all weapons of AK-47!" Says Obrack Obomo. AK-47 change name to AK-12.

"Ban all weapons of automatic!" Says Bara Kombo. Weapons of automatic caliber glue selector switch to single round shot.

"AAAARGH! Ban all weapons from the Russias!" Says Barcock Obomb. Machine factory shifted to Belarus.

"Ban all weapons from Izhmash!" Says Barracko Bomo. Izhmash change name to Rostec.

"Ban all weapons from CEO in charge of Rostec!" Says Brock Brobombo. Rostec changes CEO.
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>>23005612
Radom (Poland) is opening a plant in Texas still afaik.
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would this include MOLOT as well, i can't recall if they were a part of Kalashnikov Concern.
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>>23005602
>up to and including high quality pussy
Well we should try to help supply them with it. Let me tell you, if people don't have access to some quality pussy, we get some global instability. And then we have to send Marines after them.
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>>23005635
>"Ban all weapons!" Says Borok Obombobo
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>>23005613
this was after the fall of communism, instead of trading with them again, they shit all over Russia

(according to some analyst that was on NPR anyway) they could have decided to begin trading with the new non-commie Russia again, but instead decided to shit all over them economically even more
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Gentlemen see this post >>23005613 for why the situation is fucked.
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>>23005603
Would be nice, but the closet we have gotten recently is when bush was in office, but relations still went south by the end of his term.

The issue is you have two nations that have ego issues, and different agendas that can't be put aside for very long unless the leaders have some sort of respect for each other, and even then it's a crapshoot.
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>>23005636
Radom is gone, you're thinking of Pioneer Arms which popped up with a machine shop in Radom, Poland allowing vendors in the U.S. to non-fraudulently claim their weapons were made in the "Radom plant in Poland."
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>>23005643
My body is a weapon, says Putin.
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This thread has more autism than a claim your waifu thread on /a/
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>>23005659
What the FUCK did you say about my waifu?!

>also this thread is everyone agreeing we should trade more with russia
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>>23005647

Because the US still considered them a threat at the time, and wanted to bury them.
Why? Because people were still in the "evil commie" mindset at that time.
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>>23005654
No, the Radom MSBS is going to be produced in America, there will be a Radom/Radon plant opening in Texas.
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>>23005621
The nearest throat is always your own.
Besides I think that shit harpy will be too busy feasting on the flesh of babies and selling the organs of the orphaned children of her victims to run a campaign....just like last time.
>>23005636
Kick ass.
>>23005638
It should(please god please)
>>23005659
Not by light years bro.
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>>23005659
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>>23005607

Hilary is too similar to Obama and wants to bomb everyone, she's not winning shit.
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>>23005686
You don't win when it'd fixed
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Based Russia keeping our dreams of a civilian ak-12 alive
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>>23005664
>also this thread is agreeing to more more free market capitalist
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Where is a good Bulgarian AK-74 barrel relatively cheap?
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>>23005555
What about ammo? Am I going to get a shitload of shipments of Golden Tiger in again?

I used to have two pallets, now I'm down to 14 boxes from reselling so much.
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>>23005709
>also this thread is agreeing to more more free market capitalist
Shit.
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>>23005636
I doubt them selling overpriced and pisspoor quality AKs and AK variants will make up for their actions that got 7n6 banned.
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cool gonna save up shekels to buy russian gus
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>>23005670
It's Russian conspiracy theory that the West actively tried to fuck them over after the USSR dissolved.

Advocating shock doctrine for the economy was bad advice but it was sincere. They really thought it was a good idea.
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>>23005761
I think it's more for hope of a civilian MSBS.
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>>23005761
>blaming them instead of the ATF

don't be daft.
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>>23005602
>They should have gotten their EU and NATO invites after 1989

You don't understand how the EU and NATO work. There are no "invites", they are not torrent sites. Countries have to apply for membership and then existing members decide whether or not those countries are let in. Many of those existing members being countries that Russia has occupied in its recent history, you can guess what the answer would be.

>they could have decided to begin trading with the new non-commie Russia again, but instead decided to shit all over them economically even more

Are you high on something? Russia is one of EU's biggest trading partners.
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>>23005572
>Rand Paul takes office in 2016

As if he won't crush your hopes and dreams like the rest of them.
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>A week ago Rostec presented a new development strategy, saying more than 4 billion rubles would be invested into one of its other companies, Kalashnikov Concern, which manufactures the AK-47 rifle and was banned from import by the U.S. Department of Treasury, to modernize production and equipment.

Yesss, Saiga MK-107 and 9mm carbine when?
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The random Russian businessman will be added to the list of sanctioned individuals in 3...2...1...
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>>23005686
It depends on who runs against her, if the tea party shits up the primary and nominates rick perry or some other wingnut shes a lock. Christie Kreme doesnt have a shot either
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>>23005761
> blaming the mfgr and not the atf
> giving a shit about 7n6
Kekekekek
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>>23005709
So? Thats a good thing.
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>>23005955
This. How likely would it be for this businessman to be sanctioned like a motherfucker?
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>>23005988
The real question is why doesnt izmash just nut up and build a plant stateside, then we could get dragunovs as well
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>>23005761
> got 7n6 banned
AK74 pistols when?
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>>23005921
exactly. also he has views views completely separate of his father ron and i feel like a lot of people feel the are the same but are mistaken
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Ak12 when
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>>23005727
find one and buy it, I see your posts in the Ak thread.
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>>23006000
Implying they would allow literal terrorist sniper rifles In the US
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>>23006000
there never was a reason we couldn't before.
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>>23006019
he supports freedom, he supports gun rights.
he supports ending the war on drugs.

he supports America.
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>>23005785
Poland received shock therapy as well, but they got a SHITLOAD of western investment to compensate, whereas Russia got zero western investment. In fact they were pretty nonexistent in the business world since 1991 to 1999, when some oil companies thought why the fuck not and invested in Russia. To just generalize how insane this was: RED CHINA THAT EXECUTED CAPITALIST INFILTRATORS GOT MORE WESTERN INVESTMENT THAN NEWLY CAPITALIST RUSSIA. They got punished for turning capitalist.

And people wonder why modern Russia dislikes the west... too many people still alive remember the 90s.
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>>23006019
Is he exactly like Ron? No, of course not, but I'd vote for him and I'm a total Libertarian.
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>>23006036
They are import banned so the prices are ridiculously high, if izmash opened a plant in the US and produced them here the supply would increase and the price would come down. Fucking day/k/are.
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>>23006037
Yeah, he says a lot of things.
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>>23006019
>his views are seperate.

We'll. aside from his voting record and the fact his dad is fucking Ron Paul

I think the idea that rand is some sort of nwo shill is hilarious considering he learned from his dads 2012 campaign on what not to say to get blacklisted
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>>23006035
its a 10 shot, semi auto, .30 caliber rifle. Its import banned because of "muh ebil gommunist snipr ruffle" but if they were priduced here the atf couldnt say shit about it
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>>23005675
Where in Texas? Now i want one even more.
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>>23006060
Again you are implying the state department would stand for an enemy nation opening a weapons factory in America.

They would be hit by every regulation on or off the books, and if that wasn't enough new regulations would be invented to pressure them to leave.
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>>23006073
No , the gun is far too long and terrorist looking for legitimate American people. I can hear this shit rolling off politicians lips already.

Also rangefinding fixed power scopes make sniping way to easy. Just like tracking point
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>>23005555

FUCK YEAH IZMASH
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>>23005643

>All weapons are re-classified.

"Ban everything!" says Bukakke OBobobo-bo Bo-bobo
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>>23006086
> wut is a shell corporation
Nothing they would be doing would be illegal and no politician wants to be responsible for killing muh jerbs
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>>23006037
>>23006052
>>23006068
rand paul voted FOR NDAA which in my view says alot about what he's really about, exclaiming freedom for votes then doing a 180 and voting for less freedom
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>>23006144
I didn't agree with all of rons policies, but I trusted ron...I dont trust rand
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>>23006144
Not the ndaa that was apposed by the public nigger
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>>23006068
but now he is supporting the neo cons and their endless wars
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>>23005709

Oh no, freedom you say?
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>>23006153
>>23006167
feel the same way
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>>23006114
>Bukakke OBobobo-bo Bo-bobo
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>Gougers' faces when

>>23006190

Thanks m8.
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>>23006153

Ron seemed honest and a true statesman.
Rand leaves me feeling like he's got a long term agenda. Getting there by hiding his true colors.

Now is he playing ball a little to get ahead so he can unleash a LIBERTYSTORM!!!!! On the nation, maybe. He could also be hoping the liberty types inflate his bubble till he reaches the point where no longer needs them, and goes gull mainstream.
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>>23006114
>Bukakke OBobobo-bo Bo-bobo
wow, this is honestly the first time ive laughed at the typical president resenting fudd namecalling joke
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>>23006087
> "Terrorist looking"

Are you Feinstein? Do you think AR15s look like assault weapons? Should things be banned for having a shoulder thing that goes up?
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>>23006115
Did you miss the second line of that comment? There are ways to discourage perfectly legal things.

And a shell corp would just give them excuse to bring out a bigger hammer.
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>>23006242
>Should things be banned for having a shoulder thing that goes up?
it's the shoulder thing that goes down is what we're mostly worried about.
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Fuck all you ruskie shills

gaping for putins cock

Poland stronk, poland will not subdue again
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>>23005619

and an AS VAL, and a VSS Vintorez
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>>23006086
>enemy nation
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>>23006298

Hey /pol/and, how goes that whole 'Space' thi- Oh, right, Silly Poland, you cannot into Space.

Seriously though, if you can get us a better and/or cheaper AK I'll convert to pierogi.
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>>23006316

>poland makes aks
>its made out of plumbing pipes
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>>23006060
so izmash and MOLOT are the same plant then?
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>>23006311
Welcome to America.
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>>23005555
Dragunovs when?
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The market is saturated. The only scare is one that pushed by people to make a buck.
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>>23006212
how can you know that he will unleash a liberty storm
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>>23005675
>tfw might be interning in texas this summer

definitely will take a day trip to the radom plant if it is open by then
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>>23005607
Why is that thing so sexy? I'd try to insert my dick somewhere if I had one.
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>>23006368
No, are you implying that izmash DOESNT make dragunovs?
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>>23005572
Well, many of the tea party fucktards still point at communism to explain just about every social problem in the US so good luck with trading nicely.

The reality is that we are at war with Russia even though the cold war is over. What happens if NATO gets a hold of Eastern Ukraine? A missile defense shield that will inevitably move into the area will be able to hit Russian missiles inside of the Russian border (within limits). We are also systematically purging the Middle East of Russian influence, hence the Syrian involvement.

Face it, we are still at war with Russia...or at least your leaders are.
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>>23006299
Not made in Izhmash, not meant for the civilians. A Tigr might be a thing though. I'd love an civilian version of the SVDS (shorter and thicker barrel mostly, the foldable stock can be later modified if that's an issue).
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Why aren't Dragunovs imported again? They aren't full-auto, so they're exempt from the '89 import bans, right?
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>>23006266
> muh gubermint collusion
For what purpose, plenty of other foreign arms makers have opened up shop in the US to bypass our shitty import laws.
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>>23005641
I fail to see how sending them high quality pussies will do anything.
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>>23005734
Golden Tiger is Vympel

if there isn't any it SHOULD be an import gap.

I only ever bought one case and I haven't even shot fifty rounds out of it. It's too gud.
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>>23005695
I don't want an AK-12. I want a 107!
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>>23006511
The NATO is at war with the BRICs nations.

The divide is getting wider economically and will result in proxy wars soon enough.
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>>23006528
It was a Generation Kill reference
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Cpl. Ray Person: Look at this shit, how come we can't ever invade a cool country, like chicks in bikinis, you know, how come counties like that don't ever need Marines, I'll tell you why, it's lack of pussy that fucks countries up, lack of pussy is the root fucking cause of all global instability, if more hajis were getting quality pussy, there'd be no reason for us to come over and fuck em up like this, cause a nutbusting haji, is a happy haji.
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>>23005607
mmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhh dat falo...
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>>23005555
>implying they won't be priced at American labor standards...
Enjoy that 1k Saiga and 2k VEPR.....unless they receive subsidies in Russia to under cut the US market.......100 dollar AKs would be amazing...
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>>23006553
and I was referring to marines being pussies. XD
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>>23006547
Proxy wars in Europe, you mean. They are all over the place in the Middle East.
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>>23006495
>I'd try to insert my dick somewhere if I had one.
ARE YOU SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE A DICK???
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>>23006511
>many of the tea party fucktards still point at communism to explain just about every social problem in the US
What does that have to do with Russia? They're arguably less socialist than America.
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>>23006458
what would lead you to believe he wouldn't?
look at his voting record.

pro gun rights, anti-war (usually), pro constitution, anti spying, in other words, freedom storm.
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>>23006523
They don't want to sell Dragunovs to Americans.
Hell they might actually be planning to invade someday, and they know Americans with fucking Dragunovs could really fuck them up.

Or perhaps they fear America producing Dragunov copies for their military?

Whatever the reason, they don't want to sell Dragunovs to America.
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>>23005555
Cool I guess, I hope Baraka lalalalaladala bomba doesn't get wind of this.
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>>23006886
No, I do have one... but we could pretend I don't if that's what you want ;)
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>>23006962
uh, supported NDAA. thats completely anti-freedom
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>>23006981
Why would America use dragunovs when they have Barretts?
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>>23005603
>>23005602
These guys are right, we should have been building economic relations with Russia to ward off Chinese economic dominance but instead we've kept these cold war dick measuring contests and now we have Russia trading with china extensively and not trading at all with us.
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>>23006368
They are both owned by Kalishnakov Concerns. Different factories, for the same company. Molot does RPK style receivers, Izmash does AK.
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>>23007150
the American citizens
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>>23006981
lurking for awhile, just wanted to say, this is a really stupid post
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>>23006981
You're so stupid it hurts.
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>>23006981
mongoloid detected
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>>23007151
>abrams tanks with a bustle autoloader
>dU armor
>shtora
>era
>aps
>shooting milimeter accurate missiles to 10km

>stealth fighter jets that dont cost a bajillion trillion to make
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>>23007191
But American citizens have any number of options for that type of weapon. Dragunov is cheaper, that's about all it has going for it.
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>>23007074
The NDAA is passed every year, they could probably add a section giving America back to the British crown and it would still pass. NDAA 2012 didn't grant any powers they didn't already have, it just said that the government has those powers.
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>>23005695
oh god please
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>>23007284
except this one called for congress to have th right to indefinitely detain whoever is they felt they were a "terrorist"
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>>23005555
I was just at a gun show, and saw several AK's being sold. Ended up buying a Taurus .45 25/7 g2 though.
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>>23007360
Which they already had the power to do under the AUMF that passed in 2002.
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>>23007196
>>23007217
>>23007226

It's true though.

Russia doesn't want to sell us Dragunovs, that's why they don't.
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>>23007371
they were already doing that before 2002 though
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>>23006523
Because Clinton is an asshole.
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>>23007384
Hey, stupid, you know that they DID used to sell us Dragunovs as TIGR's? They got import banned like 15 years ago.
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>>23007412
Oh, okay.

Some guy on /k/ lied to me a year or two ago when we had this thread.

Clinton is a massive piece of fucking shit, so that makes more sense anyway.
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>>23007191
we are up to eyeballs in ar10s, ptr, cetme, m1a, and millions of high power durr rifles.

Availability of some slavshit 54r semi-auto is less than a pot of piss in the ocean.
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>>23007440
I heard it was Bush 41 that did it.
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>>23005686
>Hilary is too similar to Obama and wants to bomb everyone, she's not winning shit.

Which is why she's been distancing herself for a while now. If Obama fucks up then they can say she's been disagreeing with him for years and will fix his mistakes, if Obama stays tepid and doesn't piss off their main voting blocs then they can market her as Obama II: Vagina Boogaloo and if Obama REALLY fucks up he'll be on the sacrificial altar and Hillary will be holding the knife. At any rate, their voting bloc is so massive (especially if they pass that legislation for illegal citizenship) that they won't need to do much to win.


Winter is coming.
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>>23007440
you're now aware the first Bush is the reason you can't even get the chinese dragunovs, ndm-86
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>>23007229
Not to mention the t72s and some MIGs sitting around that just need a little WD40, could sell them three to ten K a pop.
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>>23007371
I figured that was the case "off the books" but thought NDAA 2012 version was a first on the record of that situation

interesting I had no idea about AUMF

thanks for the heads up. I wish some more strict constitutionalists were running for national offices.

it seems like a lot of people dont even care about the constitution anymore

pic related but obviously it not just him its a lot of people even supreme court judges :/

anyone know of some constitutionalists that are running for senate? house? president? cabinet?

alan grayson is pretty legit http://youtu.be/9MbRrXkrYNs
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So if the company brought a shell corporation stateside, it would be called something else, yet have identical, or near identical weapon quality to Izmash
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>>23007829
it would never be allowed to get to that point, the entire reason for existance of alphabet soup agencies is to prevent that sort of thing during the cold war.
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>>23007516
>Obama II: Vagina Boogaloo
my sides, you right though whoever is the new talking head acts like the old one and them dont play for the same team
>(especially if they pass that legislation for illegal citizenship)

that to me, if passed, is just completely over the top unconstitutional I would imagine border states would just say fuck the grants and deport them anyway; at least I hope so
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forgot picture
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>>23007851
So, somehow it's a bad thing to them.
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>>23005602
Nobody things that. We hate Russia because they're corrupt and poor as fuck.
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>>23007905
of course

the government still considers russia an enemy
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>>23005555
I remember when /k/ suggested this

Then came the
>you can't just change the street address and company title guys that doesn't work you're so dumb

And now the Russians did it. I wish we could pull up old threads just so we could dump #rekt all over them
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>>23005602
>>23007909
>these two anons cannot into geopolitics
Russia will always be a threat so long as it is not broken up into a number of small states and/or subjugated by outsiders. Russia's geography ensures that it will always see aggression and territorial aggrandizement as their first and last line of defense.
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>>23008061
I'm sure they aren't simply feeling legitimately threatened because absolute retards post opinions like
>Russia will always be a threat so long as it is not broken up into a number of small states and/or subjugated by outsiders.
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>>23005555
I knew this shit was going to happen. It was only a matter of time before "Izhmash" became "HsamhzI, the friendly not-AK company" and starting selling to the US again. That's how sanctions work. GG Russia
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>>23008104
>the leading defense analysts of the world are absolute retards
>but not you, you're smarter than them
>with your degree in mom's basement economics
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>>23008253
>argument from authority
>doesnt address the real issue
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>>23005695
I would suck 12 dicks for an AK-12
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>>23008438
in case anyone read this comment and decided to give him one, i would suck 13
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>>23008438
>>23008512
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>>23005695
>Export version doesn't come in 7.62x39
Life is pain.
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>>23005555
Didn't we have a discussion on this right after about how they could change the name and sell the company to another guy?

and then they actually did it, top kek.

>Get new Saignot, stamped made in..
>Production of at 3 Notmash Dr. Notmash Plant, Certainlynomasheshere, Russia.
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>>23008594
would there be a way to work arounf that and order in parts?

or if it was manufacture in us to just make it 7.62x39 from the get go?
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All the times I told kiddies to wait before buying saiga rifles at twice the prices.

"B-but my Russian AK".

Couldn't be patient for a couple months. Wasted money.
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>>23008638
Sure, assuming you could import a 7.62x39 AK-12 barrel or have one custom made. Won't be cheap though.
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>>23008672
so maybe but probably not then
okay ;/
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>>23008652
It's not wasted money, it's just funding my projects now.

> a fool and his money
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>>23008713
I'm personally very surprised they wouldn't export the AK-12 in x39. I'm even more surprised they chose .223 over x39.
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Caaaaaaaaaaalled it

Also, Russian weapons imports are banned anyway

Where's he gonna set up?
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>>23009092
>Russian weapons imports are banned anyway
No, Russian weapons imports from Kalashnikov Concern and its subsidiaries are banned.
Since KC owns basically all the weapons plants in Russia, you're technically correct, but the law doesn't target Russian weapons as a whole.
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>>23009118
what the fuck

I thought this, too, but a friend of mine showed me an EO that banned ALL guns from Russia

Now I can't find it
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>>23009092
My bet is Belarus. pretty much Russia, Jr.
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>>23009146
Executive order 13662 cut off KC imports. It's quite specific to that company. Any transaction where KC is a party is now illegal. So no more imports.
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>>23009230
I know that, but there was another one apparently

Could have been a proposed one, however

Also, doesn't it have wording that any attempt to circumvent it was also illegal?

As in doing exactly this was illegal?

>imblyign US laws apply to Russia, but you get my point
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>>23005607
>>23006495
>that dust cover tho
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>>23009253
Any transaction where KC is directly involved is now illegal, simple as that. Any circumvention would have to not involve KC at all to be considered legal.
However, the EO identified KC by its company name and address, so all you'd need to do is sell through a different company at a different address and you'd be golden, since KC is not involved in the transaction.
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>>23005555

Saiga 9 when?
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>>23009343
NEVER

>pistol caliber carbines are shit
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quads don't lie
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>>23009388
STFU, practical fag


>pew pew
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>>23009388
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>>23009343
I'd only consider it if I could get helical Bizon mags

> and make a bigass holster so I can CC one in JNCO jeans or a manskirt
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>>23009388
>stop liking what i don't like
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>>23005572
>Rand Paul
>Rand
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>>23009329
But if KC owns stock in the company or if this guy buys parts from KC and then puts them together wouldn't that mean that he's still doing business with KC and that means no importation?
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>>23009388
Oh yeah? Well, your favorite gun is shit, how about that? #rekt
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>>23009388
>Not wanting a glorious 9mm AK SBR
I would ask if you suck dicks but the answer has been made quite obvious.
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>>23009409
>>23009410
>>23009416
u mad?

>I want one though
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>>23006981
You obvious don't know shit about TIGR.
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>>23009388
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>>23009431
Parts directly from KC are also banned. I'm not sure if owning stock would still count as illegal. That's something you ask to someone who knows business law.

However, if you bought stuff from KC then resold it from your company, that would theoretically be fine, since KC has already made their money, and would not be a party to any future transactions between the reseller and the buyer.
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>>23009505
Oh, well the russian guy is buying up 3/4 of the company but KC is still going to have 25% of the company. This concerns me.
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>>23006981
>Americans with Dragunovs could really fuck them up
>fear America producing Dragunov copies for their military
What the fuck am I reading.
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>>23009524
>This concerns me
More than having KC imports banned outright?

If it does work, we might be lucky to get a few more months of KC imports before choomer-in-chief uses his magic pen to ban Russian imports outright. Good thing is that could actually get a rise out of Congress.
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>>23005761
7n6 is garbage.
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>>23006981
Do you know you're retarded?
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>>23009610
It's reliable, cheap ammo with pretty damn good terminal effect, and it comes in neat tins with funny writing on them. What's not to love?

AK-74s were literally built around the 7n6 round. may as well feed it right
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Izhmash does not exist any more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalashnikov_Concern
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>>23009610
Nobody ever said it was a super powerful end-all match grade round.
It's a cheap, abundant round that allows for large volume inexpensive shooting.
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>>23009666
A bit late to the part, mate.
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>>23009589
but as it stands we have a chance to get them rescinded after the Ukrainian bullshit goes away. Having them completely gone for only a few months imports is complete idiocy.

I hope it doesn't happen or that they move to Belarus, but I'm not confident enough to have that much hope.
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INB4
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>>23009786
Best hope it gets rescinded after the crisis blows over. Otherwise, well... how long has trade with Cuba been banned? 50 years?

We really need a pro-funs president who will dismantle all this gun control shit. Including attacking the FOPA.
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>>23008862
It is a waste because people paid extra for rifles that will be available again at the same lower price.
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>>23009876
>mfw I paid $499 for my VEPR in 2012
>mfw when people buy them at gunshows for $1400
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>>23009388
>there will never be a law passed that allows all rifles in pistol calibers to be allowed SBR with no tax stamp
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