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Rethinking the FN Five-Seven 2017-08-04 02:18:12 Post No.34749461
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Rethinking the FN Five-Seven
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A meme gun, right? Let's think about this for a minute.
It's a large handgun but legitimately handgun sized. It has a 20 round magazine standard with a 30 round extended magazine available that isn't too much larger. It has a five inch barrel. It's lightweight for its size. Not bad so far.
How about the ballistics? There are a few interesting factory loads. The SS197SR drives a 40 grain bullet at 1900-2000 fps. The SS90 AP prototype drove a 23 grain bullet at 2800 fps. SS190 AP will drive a 31 grain bullet at 2300-2400 fps. All of these numbers are ballpark from published specifications given the five inch barrel.
That's a little better than a .22 magnum which will typically drive a 40 grain bullet at 1900 fps or a 30 grain bullet at 2300 fps out of a 24 inch barrel.
Now look at some 5.56x45 loads. A 55 grain M193 will have about 2600-2700 fps out of an 8 inch barrel.
A difference of 15 grains and 600 fps is still a sizeable gap. However, those numbers for M193 out of a short barrel and 5.7x28 are closer than you'd think. It's really tempting to have a go at closing that gap. A legitimate pistol-sized handgun with 30 rounds of near-5.56 is something else entirely and very much worth pursuing.
Has anyone developed any hotter than factory reloads for the Five-Seven that haven't blown the gun up? How much more performance can handloading squeeze out of this round and pistol?
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>>34749461
It's a handgun that does almost nothing a handgun is designed to do.
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It is a m1 carbine in a handgun package. How about that.
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>>34749461
>That's a little better than a .22 magnum which will typically drive a 40 grain bullet at 1900 fps or a 30 grain bullet at 2300 fps out of a 24 inch barrel.
Thats fucking irrelevant since a 22 mag is a rimfire straight walled cartridge with a soft lead projectile
>Has anyone developed any hotter than factory reloads for the Five-Seven that haven't blown the gun up? How much more performance can handloading squeeze out of this round and pistol?
Look up elite ammunition and R&R weapons systems. T6B and S4M are some nasty stuff.
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Is this how recoil works /k/?
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>implying anyone on /k/ owns a gun
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>>34749521
I owned your moms gun last night.
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>>34749575
was it xirific?
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Technicals of the Air and Sea? 2017-08-04 02:05:11 Post No.34749317
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Technicals of the Air and Sea?
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Ok, so poor countries and militias have improvised fighting vehicles like technicals for heavy support weapons, right?
Are there "technical" versions for aircraft and boats/ships? Like do improvised fighting boats/ships or aircraft exist?
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>>34749317
Does it have to be a poor country and do military variants of civilian aircraft count?
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>>34749317
Bazooka Charlie is pretty close - observation pilot that decided he was wasting fuel and time by not being armed during his observation flights so he strapped Bazookas to his Grasshopper and killed tanks.
I think he killed 6 tanks in his plane "Rosie the Rocketer".
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Kebabs have used gunboats- which is basically a speedboat with some kind of heavy machinegun on them, aircraft not so much as actually finding a working plane and someone who can fly are much less common.
Let's do something actually worthwhile instead of shitposting on the internet. Let's get nationwide constitutional carry. We can do it, we just need a strong action plan. Where do we start?
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I bet this thread was made by a pathetic, desperate, cuck Texan.
signed,
A Vermonter, a REAL American.
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>>34749325
Fuck off faggot, the point of this is to get the supreme court and/or legislative branch to pre-empt states from banning the carrying of firearms in public. We're all in this together.
SHALL
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INFRINGED
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>>34749366
So... you're from Texas, aren't you?
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Headed to Kyiv this September to see Pripyat and Chernobyl. Saw a tour where you go up in a Yak-52 for 25 minutes and you get to do some acrobatic maneuvers.
Have any of you done something like this before? I figured I'd have a better response asking you guys than I would on /trv/
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>>34749174
>Russia
>70 year old plane
>Maintained by Russians
>Aerobatic maneuvers
What could go wrong?
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>>34749236
Oh, many things could, but at least I would die happy.
And hopefully quickly.
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>>34749236
50 year*
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What the fuck, /k/
According to these sites, Minnesota allows open carry of rifles without a permit:
https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/minnesota/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Minnesota
Yet according to the latter, despite saying that Minnesota is an open carry state and does not require a permit for open carrying rifles, it also separately says
>Whoever carries a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun on or about the person in a public place is guilty of a gross misdemeanor
And on the NRA gun laws by state thing, it says that open carry of rifles only requires permits in Massachusetts and New Jersey, and some cities/counties.
So what the fuck? Does Minnesota allow open carry of rifles or not? And are there any other states besides Massajewsets and Jew Jersey that ban it?
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You need your PTC as far as I know. It only says pistol on the card, but it applies to long arms as well.
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>>34749146
Then why should I trust the web pages that list gun laws by state? They claim that only MA and NJ require permit/ID for open carrying rifles.
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you can in state parks far enough away from the cities
i wouldn't try carrying a rifle anywhere else. chances are you will get muhammeded by one of the local conscripts
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Alright /k/, have you ever inherited guns? Unfortunately my uncle is currently on hospice as he has pancreatic and liver cancer at only 36 and we don't know how long he has left. Seeing as how I'm the only grandchild my mamaw has and my dad is currently in jail and also a felon and can't own guns, my uncles guns are most likely going to become mine. I was just wondering if any of y'all have ever inherited any guns and if so, do you ever go out shooting and recall the good times with that person whose guns you've inherited? My dad and my uncle were some of the first people to take me hunting when I was a kid and I know that I've got a lot of fond memories of that dude. So /k/ tell me about those guns you've inherited. Let those feels out.
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My Grandfather taught my father to hunt quail and dove with this shotgun, and my father in turn taught me. When they both died, I inherited it. Needless to say, if there was a house fire, this is the one gun I would grab to save. I'll teach my kid to hunt with it. It's nice to have heirlooms and shit.
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>>34749113
True that. I just hate that I didn't get to do more hunting and fishing with my uncle. I'm praying he makes it to deer season this year so that I can take him one last time, but the doctors don't know how much longer he's got and he's on hospice right now. At the very least we're going fishing when he comes home hopefully tomorrow or Monday.
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>>34749149
Well, I hope he doesn't kick over too soon, because then you'll have to inherit that fucking Savage Model 24, and then you'll want to die to.
Seriously, those things are horrifically bad.
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AR Thread /ARG/ tripfag containmen 2017-08-04 01:41:11 Post No.34749039
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AR Thread /ARG/ tripfag containmen
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2017-08-04 01:41:11
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Hourly wagecucks need not apply edition
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>>34749039
(((Noveske)))
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Giddy need a roommate?
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I have an S10 and a bag to go with it but I imagine this is not enough, just asking for ideas to build a kit and see what you guys may already be doing. (not my pic but thats what I have.)
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some filters would be a good idea...
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Gonna need a MOPP suit, chemical detection equipment, atropine and decontamination equipment to stand a snowball's chance in hell of surviving in a chemical environment. A mask alone is only good for teargas.
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>>34749038
Got any recommendations, my dude?
>>34749031
I know that much but I'm not too sure where to get them. Local surplus store has some but they don't look sealed.
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Tanks use slanted armor to increase the amount of material that would be penetrated by an incoming round. Why not just slant the armor all the way to get maximum protection?
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>>34748981
internal space my dude
in T-34's (and other soviet tanks) the crew were very cramped
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>>34748987
*and you'd need a bottom front plate
pic related is better idea
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>>34748981
I sincerely hope this is b8.
Check the pastebin, newcuck
No we won't spoonfeed you
We made the pastebin so you could find it yourself instead of wasting 150 posts telling you
https://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD
Comfy 2hu jazz tunes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRTsbGUVvMI&t=210s
For some ambience
http://rainymood.com/
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>Inb4 RTS guy
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CUTE NADE TOMORROW
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Don't forget: it's your civil duty to bully Sticker
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This isn't about weapons, fuck it, ban me. I know some of you are vets, do you struggle with suicidal thoughts? Things you can't get over? It's been almost 3 years now and I feel like I'm losing the fight.
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>>34748722
Hey man, think of your friends, and people who you care about. You'll get some shitty answers from the niggers on here, but you know that the crap on here is enjoyable. Power through this.
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>>34748756
>You'll get some shitty answers from the niggers on here
this op
i believe in you and thank you for your service,
i hope you get through this
Cool finds and recent additions to collection.
Found a Feg gkk 45 for $250.
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>>34748316
Overpaid. Those things are a mess.
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>>34748336
Having no issues yet what should I look out for?
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>>34748316
I have so many cool finds but I don't have any recent additions. Brokefag life is not a fun life.
Hold me, /k/.
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Just ordered this gun. M&P 15 with MOE Mlok. Got it on gun deals for $469, free shipping. My first AR
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>>34748276
You did great. Buy 2000 rounds of ammo now and get shooting.
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>>34748281
This. Congrats OP.
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>>34748281
>>34748293
Thank you guys. Very excited. Thought it was a good deal, just wanted to make sure.
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Let's get a reloading general up for a few days.
What are you working on, what's the end goal.
Questions or concerns about reloading and calibers.
Favorite suppliers and manufacturers.
Pic related. My current production of. 308
168 Hornady A-max with 44 gns of AA2520 at a 2.777 OAL.
I chrono'd a 10 shot string last night with an avg speed of 2812 and a standard deviation of 9.72.
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>>34748066
i may start reloading 556 soon, im a canuck and 223 doesnt get below 60 c/pr around here,any general advice for that,does it reaally neeeed a crimp?
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>>34748854
i never used to crimp 223 but i do now for extra peace of mind.
get a lee crimp die its very easy to use.
as for what im working on right now- nothing. i havent had any motivation to reload in a few months.
although im pondering about getting a bolt gun in 308 which would get me really motivated, i think.
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>>34748900
yup full rifle calibers rounds get pricey ,more so up north,i've been reloading for 9mm ,got it down to like 16 cents versus 35 for factory,shit is so expensive here.