15 days after the SHTF, a sprawling mob from a nearby city is ransacking your rural town.
Your farmhouse isn't a fortress and you don't have nearly enough fire power. Do run out the back with a small backback and your rifle or do you try to beat the odds and protect your property.
Pic sort of related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
>>27914810
Hi /pol/
>>27914843
This completely /k/ related. How would you protect your property in such a situation?
Or maybe we should make more AR threads because they are so interesting.
>>27914900
I live in a rural agricultural district. Are you kidding me? Everyone here owns guns and uses them regularly. Interesting enough property crime is near zero. It would be a massacre of a random mob if they tried to ransack homes here.
https://youtu.be/Fs-TObcA6R0
4:05
>>27914806
Hes a former DevGru SEAL if that tickles your jimmies any
Faggot played too much MW2 and is parroting tac knife tactics he heard on Youtube
>>27914806
Who cares what you do? If you're alive after you do it, you did the right technique.
You have to start a militia in your area for cheap. for ease of training, your militia needs to have matching gear. which pistol/rifle combo do you equip with?
things to consider:
these are blue collar citizens, who cannot afford 1500+ guns AND ammo.
the will be defending themselves against local police, then national guard, then military
time is limited, you probably only have a day or two to train them on shooting and maintenance. some of these people have never shot a gun.
pic:
Model: Squires Bingham M-16
Caliber: .22 LR
Capacity: 6
>>27914725
WASR-10's and S&W M&P's all around.
Problemo solved.
>>27914725
.38 Snubs
Cheap SKS.
The .38 is just there in case you need a back up, and .38 and 7.62x39 is absurdly cheap if you buy bulk.
>>27914725
>hur dur my muhlisha
>fight for the people
training antigun libs in a day or 2 is unrealistic.
Tell me why this should or shouldn't be my first handgun.
Have you held one? Does it fit well in your hand? Can you shoot it well?
If all three answers are yes, go for it.
It's a pretty nice gun.
You might have issues concealing it though.
Get a 92fs instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZklAh26uYA
Ahahahaha the first 2 minutes is /k/ as fuck.
Where can I find qt3.14 black chicks who like guns?
>>27915290
Texas. At least, that's where those ladies live.
>>27915299
Oh...
I've been looking into buying my own firearm for a while now (19 and living in Maryland, fun guns are off limits and I'd have to have my father or my Brother-in-law buy any handgun to be transferred to me) and believe I have found a fit with the M1A SOCOM 16".
I feel like there is enough third party gear for me to make it a general purpose rifle, and of course I'd make a trip to PA for a C-Mag.
So, what do my fellow /k/ommandos think of this decision?
>>27914641
Just buy a 21" loaded or national match.
>>27914666
Problem: I'm 5' 4". Anything over 16" just feels uncomfortable for me.
>>27914666
What Satan said, though I'd recommend the SCR for non free staters, accessories are cheaper and the .223 is more than enough for 99% of self defense situations.
am i doing this right?
>>27914233
Back to your sweat shop Dang Phuk
Does it fire?
>>27914233
sure
I need to know what gun to get please I don't care what model or what year or what locationbI just want to know what gun to get so I can feel safe and secure from the crazy evil people around me.
Please I don't feel safe and it is getting worse I just want to know what gun to get and carry so I can finally sleep without my mind telling me to wake up because of water dripping but there is no water dripping because I removed the handles every knight so I don't get distracted from sleep.
>>27914194
You need to chill out man
Just get a handgun from the pawnshop for like $300 dollars
You sound like you got some issues
What's bothering you?
>>27914216
I feel like I'm in trouble.
I can't handle the stress and the fear from every day to day by a by day now.
I can't handle sleep well anymore for the past several years and the only time I sleep is whenever I dose off alone in my home from normal day.
I'm unable to fall asleep before ten and I always sleep by 3:00 or 4:00 but I get up random times but I don't remember sleeping or anything.
It just feels every day is like the end of the day but it doesn't and I can't tell or feel or know how or why.
I get extremely nervous when I hear someone phone rings or hear someone answer their phone because I always fear that it's the police coming after me or some sevret government getting info from the person that is answering the call and tracing the call and go kidnap me and do horrible things to me.
I often time fear that it may be some hacker or some criminal of unknown calling and trying to do the same thing as getting info on where I'm at.
>>27914194
sounds like you need some antipsycotic meds, not a gun. defiantly not a gun.
Hi /k/.
Oftentimes, in the gun ownership debate, I'm confronted by people who pull out sources from their asses on either side. Here I will provide you all with an in-depth look at the FBI's data pertaining to violent crime in the United States, especially pertaining to firearms. This isn't necessarily about gun control, but rather, the effect that this has on violent crime rates in the United States. As such this is very relevant to weapons, as we're observing the effects of firearm ownership on a large scale. In this thread, I will provide data that very effectively demonstrates that gun ownership has very little, if any, correlation with violent crime, and that variables such as population density and poverty are far better predictors of violent crime. When incorporated with the very basic argument that one should have the right to defend oneself, however, the data supports an opinion heavily in favor of private firearm ownership of all types, and all sorts of carry laws. If providing this data to someone turns them to shifting the goalposts, you probably can't reason with them, but try to remain reasonable. This is very compelling, transparent data from a very reputable source (the FBI) that does not actually benefit or suffer from policy pertaining to firearms.
First we have the following link to the FBI's analysis of violent crime rates between 1990 and 2011.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1
Viewing this table, one may observe a very steady decline in violent crime between the years 1992 and 2011 on the federal level. While many people would have you believe that violent crime is "on the rise", violent crimes of all types have actually been on a dramatic decline. The only reason they would argue otherwise is for supporting their agendas. In 1992, the violent crime rate was ~757 per 100,000 people; in 2011, it was ~386. Even with the introduction of the Federal Assault Weapons ban in the mid-1990s and its expiration in the early 2000s, the decline has remained fairly steady. Things are going very well, to be blunt, and will likely continue to do so. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT ANYONE USING DATA ON "GUN VIOLENCE" IS CHERRYPICKING, AS ANY COMMON SENSE WOULD INDICATE THAT HIGHER AVAILABILITY OF FIREARMS WOULD INCREASE THEIR USAGE IN THE COMMISSION OF CRIME. We must look at violent crime as a holistic concept to understand where correlations actually lie. We will dispel the idea that firearm possession increases violent crime rates soon in this analysis.
Next we have the FBI's analysis of the implements used in violent crimes:
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
Please keep in mind that there are firearms used in crimes of which the types are not stated; however, this is very scientifically-valid and well-done analysis. In this analysis, we see that by far pistols make up the vast majority of firearms used in the commission of a homicide. This is contrary to the common narrative that ownership of "assault rifles" is a growing crisis in the realm of violent crime. "Assault rifles" by most people's definitions are semi-automatic rifles meeting certain cosmetic traits which have little impact on the rifle's function; the AR-15 is a commonly-cited example. They are not automatic. According to the analysis performed by the FBI, rifles actually consist a much smaller proportion of firearms used in the commission of homicides than pistols- in 2011, rifles were used in 356 commissions of homicide whereas pistols were used in 8,583 commissions of homicide. Keep in mind that an AR-15 is only a subset of the "rifle" category. Also, the rate of homicides committed with any firearm has been on a steady decline despite numerous complaints about "mass shootings". To put things in perspective, knives/cutting instruments consisted the weapons used in 1,694 commissions of homicide in 2011: this is more than twice the number of homicides committed with cutting instruments than with both rifles of all types and shotguns of all types combined. Rifles and shotguns of all kinds are essentially a non-issue: hands, fists, feet, and other "personal weapons" were used more in 2011 than both all types of shotguns and all types of rifles.
But what about handguns? To understand the issue of crimes committed with handguns, we must understand why they are so often used: they are cheap when
available, and more importantly are very easy to conceal. Numerous territories such as New Jersey, New York, California, Illinois, and the District of
Columbia have made obtaining and legally carrying them very difficult. In New Jersey, one must acquire a pistol purchase permit for each pistol one desires
to purchase. If they request the laws, you can just Google them: the overall idea is that many regions have strict laws regarding handgun ownership and
carrying. So, let's view the figures for each territory regarding violent crime rates per 100,000 people:
New Jersey: ~261
New York: ~381
California: ~396
Illinois: ~370
District of Columbia: ~1244 (yes, 1,244)
We see wide variation. New Jersey has what would be considered a relatively-low rate of violent crime, whereas the other states have 2x-5x as much violent
crime. Let us view, now, violent crime rates in states having far fewer regulations on handgun purchasing and ownership. For argument's sake, I will
include states spread out throughout the United States, just as I did in the last example. Let's use Mississippi, Idaho, Oregon, Louisiana, Pennsylvania,
Michigan, and Maine:
Mississippi: ~278
Idaho: ~212
Oregon: ~232
Louisiana: ~514
Michigan: ~427
Pennsylvania (all parts, including Philadelphia): ~314
Maine: ~127
ok, so i'm 19 and living in michigan. i have two pistols and i acquired them and own them legally. can i get a CPL or can i open carry them or both? i'd like to carry a pistol on a hip holster without worrying if my jacket is covering it or not. do i have to wait until i'm 21 or is there something i can do?
>>27914043
Yes. Just take the course. 75-100$. As long as you don't have a felony on your record you will be fine. It only takes a couple hours, and some shots fired.
>>27914129
This is wrong.
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(dgsj1fc50zqd54qn02iaatyg))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-28-425b
"(7) Until November 30, 2015, the concealed weapon licensing board and, beginning December 1, 2015, the county clerk shall issue and shall send by first-class mail a license to an applicant to carry a concealed pistol within the period required under this act if the concealed weapon licensing board or county clerk determines that all of the following circumstances exist:
(a) The applicant is 21 years of age or older."
>>27914188
that's a bummer. can i open carry?
>Muh first assault rifle
>Not realizing the intermediate cartridge was the real deal
Fucking naziboos man
>>27913958
>mp44
Triggered
>>27913958
>intermediate cartridge was the real deal
>fucking naziboos man
What are you even trying to say?
>>27914239
thats what they told Hitler it was, a machine pistol
Let's see your /k/ids next door operatives.
http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/games/knd/generator/
>>27913929
Holy shit this thing is still up? I remember making my KND operative when this thing first came out.
Fuck you /k/omrade, I don't like nostalgia...
>>27913940
The show was literally /k/ for kids. The idea of ten-year-olds running their own military, complete with bureaucracy, R&D, etc, was such a cool concept.
>>27913929
Oh shit, I remember this show. What I never understood was is #1 a bong? Like why give him an accent. I mean it's not even a clear one like #4's
How many of you here keep a weapon with you when you are taking a bath/Shower? Seems like a place where you could be vulnerable, me, I keep an old Glock 17 in my bathroom permanently.
>>27913857
rubber duck will protect me
350$ for 870 12g shotgun
Yes or no?
>>27913613
What year?
What finish?
What magazine capacity?
What stock/pump?
What does it come with?
>>27913613
Do it fagget
You can do better. I got mine for $330 after tax.
It appears Ruger started putting warnings on their guns in 1978.
After reading some of the forums, It appears pre-warning Rugers are becoming collectible.
Regardless, I have a box...
>>27913556
And that box has another box.