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So we are all in Agreement then?
Seriously, how can you justify having such a long cumbersome efficiently designed rifle when you can have a tactical bullpup?
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>>28292276
Ejecting round close to your face is pretty dumb in design. And most of us were trained on non-bullpup rifles so it would seems weird to hold one, let alone shoot one accurately.
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>>28292300
The brass in the face can be solved by a brass deflector, which you can buy aftermarket for many bullpups for like, $15. And your obsolete training is not a reason to continue using obsolete technologoy.
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I love my bullpups too but...well I'm left handed so that doesn't really work out very well

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I'm looking into a cheap optic for an SKS scout build. Can /k/ recommend one?
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pistol scopes might be good. I don't know of any off the top of my head but they're usually cheaper than full power scopes. Red dot might be good too
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>>28292177
Side mount a PU
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>>28292438
Are NC Star optics ok? They're dirt cheap.

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hello /k/

Went through the gun stores today and put on a Bersa Thunder 380 on layaway.

What do you guys think about this for a first gun? I liked it because it is close in operation to the beretta 92fs (my first pistol when I joined the military) and it looks like James Bond's gun

But I am not sure if I should switch to a 9mm due to ammo cost of the 380 or if there are any other guns that I should consider. Let me know waht you guys think especially if you guys have had a Bersa thunder or similar compact pistol.
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>>28292122
There is nothing wrong with them other than the magazine disconnect. Ditch that shit as soon as you get it home.

If you plan to plink with it you can switch to a 9mm but in my opinion I dont really go plinking with a 380. I practice with it and carry it.
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If you want a cheap pistol buy a sd9ve


These are jam o matics from what i hear
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>>28292139
I checked out YT and its just a small C spring that needs to be removed to allow that magazine disconnect to work. What would be the advantages of not having a magazine disconnect?

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One of the 4 great Gunsmiths of The Apocalypse. You are sorely missed comrade. Use this thread to express gratitude to a great man and his work.
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>>28292078
really dont give a shit, a tripfag died boo hoo
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>>28292088
You..... need to lurk moar. Jesus.

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could someone explain a few things about ammo to a rookie?

so there are douzens of distinct kind of ammo, full metal jacket, hollowpoint, soft nose, various AP cores

how much more effective are hollow points in handgun calibers than AP or jacketed rounds?
it struck me that especially in larger harder hitting calibers, would an AP round not still stop someone dead; why would you give up that penetrative ability?

would it not be dead easy to put a core in a hand loaded round? even if it was not dead on center would it make the round tumble or veer off?

if FMJ's tent to feed better, why does anyone use non-jacketed rounds?
you can even get jacketed hollowpoints, is it just the cost?

why is ammo so damn expensive?
it's mass produced and trillions of rounds are made, the metal and explosive components can't be that hard to make
if companies are price gouging, why don't back yard factories start popping up everywhere?

sorry if these are foolish questions
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>if FMJ's tent to feed better, why does anyone use non-jacketed rounds?
>you can even get jacketed hollowpoints, is it just the cost?
It's the round nose of the FMJ that lets it feed better. There's at least one hollow point deisnged like that, Corbon Pow'R Ball, which has a plastic round nose over the hollow point
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>>28291997
>why is ammo so damn expensive?
>if companies are price gouging, why don't back yard factories start popping up everywhere?
Same answer for both: Quality control and safety. The cheapeast of the cheap ammo tends to be unreliable and sometimes unsafe due to things like double loaded ammo
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Hollow point is preferred over FMJ for human targets because hollow point will fuck your shit up 10x as easy. FMJ also has a small chance to pass right through the target, doing very little damage. I saw a news article where this guy tried to shoot some attackers with that super high-velocity Swiss stuff and it took like thirteen rounds to put down each guy. The rounds just went right through their bodies without expanding and did not damage any internal organs.

So I want to practice remedial action drills with pistols, but I have a problem, none of my pistols malfunction regularly.
I want them to be a suprise, not a set up malfunction I could do with snap caps.

So what gun can I buy for practice that will malfunction a lot? I was thinking things like double feeds, FTE, FTF, just general crap.

Was looking at maybe getting a 1911? Or a taurus?

>Don't suggest SIG, M&P, CZ, Makarov, PPK, or clones of them, those are the ones I can't get to fucking malfunction.
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>>28291920
Hi point
Low velocity ammo
/thread
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Let your friend load the magazines and tell him to insert the snap caps randomly.
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>>28291920
Get a AMT Hardballer

This is mostly theorycrafting since I don't have much experience with material science, let alone ballistic testing. Between reading about naval armor systems, especially those used by the US Navy in WW2 battles and a paper about edge strikes on M2 .30-06 AP (which explains perforated armor).

My intent hear would be to provide Level III protection at a weight of roughly 5 pounds.

The method to defeat penetration would consists of a very hard plate to deform the an incoming projectile as much as possible (like the outboard decapping plate on US battleships), followed by a perforated plate with holes positioned in such a way as to shear and hopefully snap penetrators, especially the steel core of M855 rounds, and finally a cheap backing plate to catch remaining fragments.

>Strike plate
.04"/1mm GR2 titanium plate

>Perforated Plate
1/4" 7075 T6 aluminum plate, perforated with 5mm holes at 3.5mm intervals

The hole diameter and spacing is to ensure that the m855 penetrator will hit some sort of edge. The ratio of diameter to spacing was taken from a post on tanknet about perforated armor.

>Backing plate
16 Gauge mild steel

>Between layers
1/8" industrial-grade, fabric reinforced neoprene sheets, which would hopefully flex and bulge

The estimated cost, based on raw materials and not labor would be about $125 per square foot of plate

Also, feel free to post your own ideas about body armor or why this idea is stupid
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>>28291834
It already exists and it's ceramics.

Also M855 is not steel core.
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>>28291976
>ceramics

This thread was intended to be about things that aren't your traditional boron-carbide ceramic plates

>not steel core

Well, whatever you call its steel penetrator section, that was to what I was referring
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>>28291834
Why would I want it I can have sk4 30,06 AP ceramic multihit at 3,1kg

Confused....

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Hey /k/, what's the worse that could happen from shooting a round or two off in my basement?

What would make a good backstop? Are there any negatives?

Thanks
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I had a friend that used to shoot in his bedroom into bundles of magazines.
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>>28291918
You mean cokeman?
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>>28291828
lead poisoning

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Does this make a good intermittent bipod? Ya know, to be used when needed, and taken off when not. For laying down prone shooting out to <100yards

~~~Type yes for yes

~~~and no for no
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>>28291704

Blue.

Dammit, I fucked up.
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quit smokin that antifreeze anon
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The spring is super strong, it holds well. However the local Ace Hardware want $8.99 for the 6" model (it's like the one pictured) I don't think a Harris would be better than having twenty of these bad boys

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Does any hold /k/ related jobs in other countries besides the USA? I been wanting to join the State or Fed policia in Mexico but I have to erase my tats
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Erase your tats? That must be some eraser.

Why do you need to get them removed? Arms/face? Offensive tats?
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>>28291640
Can't have tats anywhere
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>>28291593
Plata o plomo.

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>The final design contract, under which both sides were to contribute an initial $6 billion each for prototype development and production, has not been signed between India and Russia so far.

>Under the new offer, India will have to pay $3.7 billion, instead of $6 billion, for the technological know-how and three prototypes of PAK FA fighters. The proposal awaits a decision from Prime Minister Narendra Modi, when he meets Russian President Vladimir Putin for the annual India-Russia summit this week.


>Sources said the Russian offer is driven by Moscow’s cash crunch and lack of firm orders with its defence industry.

>But the Indian Air Force (IAF) remains opposed to the idea. A senior IAF official said, “We are not in favour of the FGFA. The PAK FA fighter is too expensive at even this rate, and we are not sure of its capabilities.”
>A senior IAF official said, “We are not in favour of the FGFA
>“We are not in favour of the FGFA

>http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/pm-modi-leaves-for-moscow-russia-offers-new-cheaper-deal-on-sukhoi-fighter-jets/

PakFA is official dead. A third wold nation doesn't even want it, and Russia is now too broke to afford it and has to beg.
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>>28291546
Russia can and will develop PakFA on its own. Orders are already coming in 2016.
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>>28291546

So what happens if Russia is forced to cancel the PAK FA.

Is Russia's status as a serious aerial threat finished?
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>>28292359
Its about the twin seater India wanted/wants.
It has nothing to do with the single seater.

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I've spent the past couple days watching videos and voraciously reading abour recycling, casting and reloading ammunition.
I've always been interested in metallurgy of all kinds, but I've never been able to try any kind of DIY stuff due to lack of funds and lack of workspace.
I don't see that changing in the near future but I'm trying to absorb all the information I can on the subject so that if I do get the chance I'll have a base of practical knowledge to start from.

So yeah, reloading/casting/forging/etc thread? Advice, stories, resources for beginners etc all welcome.
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Any questions in particular on metallurgy? I'm not too familiar with its effects on making your own boolits, but I have a more technical perspective that maybe I could give some pointers on (as in, it's my job).
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dude its only like $200 to get started. start with Lee equipment. cast your own bullets. set primers. measure gun powder. press the bullet in. easy. do your research and go slow.
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>>28291624
I literally don't have space to set up a work area, otherwise getting the basic money together for presses, dies, etc and searching around at garages for scrap lead wouldn't be an issue

>>28291519
I'm pretty much at the stage where I don't even know what questions to be asking. I know the basics of casting lead for bullets and I know a decent amount of secondhand knowledge on steel and that's about it

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/K/ommandos I have a question I wanted to get some answers to, but here is the basic premise:

I'm from /tg/ planning on running a colonialism-type space game. The players and their crew go to another planet and have the job of getting a solid colony going by the time the next colony ship arrives (a few thousand now, about 10k people a few years after the characters arrive).

So as to why there is a question on carriers- I decided an aircraft carrier was reasonably about the necessary size of a ship that would carry a colonizing force of about a thousand or so, but I'm not sure how much crew you would need. Wikipedia says 5,000+ as the crew for a Nimitz, but I couldn't find the composition of the crew ie., how many of that crew is engineering, pilots, weapons systems operators, sanitation, comms, etc.

Assuming automation I would expect at least half a normal crew operation. Since the crew will operate in shifts to get to the planet along the 20 year journey there (cryosleep), an aircraft carrier-size space ship should be big enough for:
Hydroponics/biolab
Small shuttle hangar
cryopod storage
industrial size 3D printer plus metal shop
Storage for food + water + ammo + weapons
50 ground vehicles including spare parts
5 air vehicles (think small cessnas or crop dusters, nothing larger than a Gripen) plus spare parts
3 satellites (for comms and GPS stuff)
hospital
computer servers
250 TW nuclear fusion reactor
backup 100 TW fusion reactor (think the size of a normal A4W or A1B nuclear reactor)

I guess the question is, what WOULD the crew requirement for something like that look like? What is the normal crew of a carrier?
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>>28291020
3.
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>>28291020
Go to Atomic Rockets
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>>28291020
Honestly, you should plan it more around a cruise ship and less around an aircraft carrier. Aircraft carriers are purpose driven to combat, there's a lot of crew redundancy, and no one's just along for the ride to a new location. Obviously these are going to be more expensive ships to run, not just because they're making no return, but because of all this purpose driven crew, all the equipment that supports them, all the maintenance their doing throughout the ship and on the aircraft, etc.

A carrier of some kind, assuming it doesn't just land and deconstruct, needs to be operable after the bulk of the people it's carrying have left. Again, think cruise ship ratios.

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Merry Goetzmas, /k/.

How are you celebrating?
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>>28290887
Do whut
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Damn, I was in 6th grade when that shit happened. Nobody really thought he was in the wrong, they just had to go through the motions of a court trial and all.

Hell, in our "current events" part of class we were all saying he was in the right.
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>>28290887
I had to look up who that was, the pic of him in the yellow shirt kind of looks like Dahmer.
>when asked if he'd been making court ordered payments he replied that he hadn't paid a dime of the $24 million owed to the victims family
based

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I'm looking to learn more about WW1. I found a rare book on a battalion a family member was in and ordered it. However, do you have any recommendations for books on overall history? Any fun facts?

Just a general WW1 thread
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>>28290859
What sorta shit?
The only fun fact i know is that Germany went undefeated in East Africa with gorilla warfare.
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>>28290879
Just anything you wanna post. I know or think I know the big things. Very much ignorant of anything else
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>>28290879
>The only fun fact i know is that Germany went undefeated in East Africa with gorilla warfare.
>gorilla warfare
>gorilla

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